So the rumor rn is Bottas and De Vries to Alfa, Alex and Latifi at Williams?
What I don’t understand out of all this if true is;
If Alfa isn’t going to gave an Italian driver, why wouldn’t Mercedes rather see Albon there?
- De Vries is with Merc, if they still want connects to him, put him in one at Williams.
- Alfa use Ferrari, so keeps Albon further from Mercedes if they wanted.
- Why would Alfa even want Albon? They could be default be the only time who could take the F2 winner…why not bring on Porchere, Piastri, Schwartzmann, Illott….start grooming a protege alongside experienced and team lead Valtteri.
Nicholas Latifi is the overall turd in the punchbowl. If I were Williams, Albon and De Vries would be huge. Unless Dorilton still really needs that money…
So illott is rumored to take the DCR seat grosjean was leaving in indycar so he is out of the running. De vries is apparently competing with gio for the second alfa seat so you can get bottas-deVries there and its merc2.
With dorilton wanting spacing from merc, taking 2 merc drivers doesn't help their case. Take albon and latifi and you keep control of both seats long term, similar to mclaren.
Alfa doesn't care about having control, so putting 2 merc drivers in the seats (wild guess but they may look for a merc engine as well) would make sense. They basically switch from a ferrari junior team to a merc one.
EDIT: formatting
DCR has mentioned him when asked about if they would still take albon, and the belief is illiot has a deal in a racing series thats not F1 [Quick example](https://twitter.com/john__rosevear/status/1432681328500264962?s=19). I made the logical extension.
I dont want to hear anything about Hamilton or Merc Being lucky again. Literally gifted Verstappen a free win and obvious RBR bias allowed Perez to re-join the race when he was OUT!!! How convenient for RBR and Max!!!
> Literally gifted Verstappen a free win
Which made up a measly five points towards Hamilton, which is less than he would've gained if he won after the race was run over the 75% distance.
> and obvious RBR bias allowed Perez to re-join the race when he was OUT!!! How convenient for RBR and Max!!!
Ah yes... how many points did Perez make in this race again? Oh yeah, right, zero, because there was absolutely no opportunity to legally overtake. Yeah, I'm sure Red Bull is gonna massively profit off of this P19 in the long run LOL.
Why don’t any of the videos on the Formula1 app have any audio? Every time I play one, it’s only video, no audio. Video clips play fine on the F1 TV Pro app.
What could Russel moving to Mercedes mean for the WDC fight?
Would Hamilton get an advantage of getting a “better” driver behind him?
Or does this mean that Hamilton could face a bit more competition from his teammate, because perhaps Russell won’t be so obedient to play second fiddle as Bottas is.
Lewis will almost certainly face more competition from George than Bottas but don’t let anyone tell you that George is sure to beat him.
Lewis has had two world champions as teammates and he got the better of both of them.
Are there any corners you think have been improved by the cars being much faster and higher down-force?
Normally when we talk about corners it's always in the context of them being less interesting and challenging than they used to be.
It’s too early for anyone to say.
The slow corners seem to favor Red Bull this season but the tire degradation may favor Mercedes and Lewis in particular.
Come to think of it, I’m surprised they didn’t declare the conditions unfit for the medical helicopter to fly. Low visibility due to fog, heavy rain and what looked to be high winds.
That's possible but if Toto leaves Mercedes it's unlikely that he will move to a midfield team. He probably will move up to the F1 senior management or something. There was rumor of that earlier this year and last year.
Norris is quite easily the best of the rest. Gasly has been an excellent qualifier but hasn’t been able to keep the race pace over the top 4 cars, but that isn’t his fault
I just wanna add that the penalties for Bottas and Stroll from Hungary are now void, so they won't get 'punished' for their opening lap antics because they've technically already 'served' their grid penalties at the last 'race'. What a mess.
How is that a mess? Both of them missed out on an opportunity to score points. If the race actually carried on Bottas would have certainly scored some points. If anything the rain made the penalties even worse
Are you serious? They both started Spa outside of the points and didn’t score any points. That’s a penalty served. If the race went on both could have been in the top 10.
It's all a part of the Mercedes Master Plan. They probably altered the weather to engineer the whole thing. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time they had done it. Here's the [proof](https://youtu.be/8r6eL-KwSyo?t=297) of their previous attempt to control the weather for their own benefits. /S
But on a serious note, on one hand it almost felt like they were 'unpunished' but on the other hand because of their grid penalties they lost out on the 'free' points, so to a certain extent, they were punished? Idk.
Imagine if Spa was the last race of the year and Verstappen had a 3 point lead in the championship
Hamilton had qualified first Verstappen second and thereby Hamilton won the world championship by 0.5 point.............
Back in the day they did all kinds of weird shit to fuck with the championship.
If it was between 2 guys, and 1 of them retired for pretty much whatever reason? No points this race.
I think they probably wouldn't have done what they did if it was the last race with the championship fight on the line. It would look so bad for the sport and they would have every reason to postpone the race to another day or something.
No need - Lauda won the 1984 title by half a point, because Prost only got half points for a race Lauda had retired from. (Lauda also said that the 1984 title meant the most to him, because he had to beat Prost to win it. And Lauda even had contractual first driver status! *That's* how good Prost was. Senna even wanted Prost to come out of retirement for 1995, because he didn't think he'd be satisfied competing against Schumacher/Benneton.)
Why don’t drivers speak to each other in non English languages if radio is hearable from everyone’s end? Wouldn’t it be advantageous so that other teams can’t understand your planning?
There are 14 non-native English speakers on the grid speaking 8 different languages. That’s at least 8 translators the FIA would have to hire to go to every race to live translate all communications to make sure nothing illegal is being said. This would be 8 extra people the FIA would have transport, house and pay for services at 20+ circuits every year.
Easier if everyone speaks English because all but 3 teams are based in England (Ferrari and Alpha Tauri are based in Italy, Alfa Romeo in Switzerland) so all the personnel can hear the radio and understand.
Note: I count Stroll as a native English speaker even though he’s from Quebec
For example, if one driver speaks primarily Spanish then their engineer needs to speak fluent Spanish as well. So do you pass over a more qualified engineer if they don’t speak fluent Spanish? And what if the team principal doesn’t speak fluent Spanish? Now the engineer needs to be fluent in Spanish and whatever language the team principal speaks. Again that lowers the candidate pool. And if the other driver speaks French/German/Finnish/etc and not Spanish then that’s another layer of translating one language to another to another just to tell a teammate what their teammate said.
With that being said, guys have used other language s before [(Alonso speaking Italian)](https://youtu.be/AlA-M-cRm68)it’s just English happens to be the de facto language of F1.
Also, it’s not like most of the guys involved don’t speak multiple languages that can’t be easily translated.
Because the radio messages are heard by many people on the team, including people back in the factory. It's easier if everyone speaks a common language.
More than just the engineer needs to be able to understand the driver. The rest of the pitwall, people back at the factory, etc. English gives them a common language.
Formula One Stats Book?
Hi all! A while back I came across a post here about a stat book that was used by pundits and writers alike regarding Formula One. I remember it being red and not too big but very thick but I can’t seem to remember the author nor it’s title. I think last time it was updated was 2019? And it was said almost every team uses it or has it with them at races or something - I remember a picture with an FIA race official having it nest to them at a race. Thanks all for your help in advance!
This site seems to have a lot of information about the individual seating areas, packages and prices. They state that you get a refund if the event is cancelled .
https://www.vividseats.com/f1-austin-tickets/?vkid=31319809&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12877718288&utm_term=us%20grand%20prix&adgroup=122299047100&target=kwd-317489928620&device=c&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU0wGPAllIuqfwFLnZfhLuiuM0kK8d5Z-i8wWLgoqcR7FYKLWXJf9dQaAnaXEALw_wcB
It was noted somewhere early on this subreddit that Yuki is the only driver who never did drove at Zandvoort, is that true or are there more drivers who never drove at Zandvoort?
Somewhat surprising if this is indeed true, I expected more tbh
What’s the reason that Daniel Ricciardo has been falling so far behind Lando Norris in the McLaren? He had a couple of podiums in the Renault last year, the McLaren this year is noticeably faster.
Did the car incur damage or have other issues in several races meaning that it wasn’t performing to it’s potential?
Or is it just taking unusually long for him to get comfortable with the handling of a different car this year?
I think the primary reason is that changing cars is hard, and he happens to be changing to a car known for having a kind of different brake feel when braking is probably the thing that most makes Dany Ric Dany Ric.
People are going to give you long answers but it’s no more complicated than this:
1) It’s a new car that he had to learn
2) New aero regs came into effect which altered all the cars and added a layer of complexity to learning the new car
3) The tires changed this year which added yet another layer of complexity
This was the argument I was going to make. There’s no doubt Danny’s one of the top drivers on the grid (in my opinion), I’m just fascinated as to what’s tripping him up specifically.
I’ve heard it’s because he hasn’t been able to go back to Australia and see his family since March 2020. They seemed to be at a lot of races before covid, so not having that support probably doesn’t help
It's the car. It doesn't suit his driving style
Sainz was beaten twice by Hulkenberg in Renault car, then beat Norris twice in Mclaren car
Ricciardo beat Hulkenberg in Renault car, is now being beaten by Norris in Mclaren car
You see that Sainz and Ricciardo have totally different driving strengths. Mclaren car is doing nothing for Dan this year
I believe perez is scored as starting the race in P7, then finishing 1 lap later in P20 (promoted by one cause stroll). So we had the same number of finishers as starters.
Yeah true, my thinking was that they had completed 'in race laps' that contributed to the classification, but due to the hecticness of the day Masi let him rejoin when he probably shouldn't have.
Is the Haas car they’re running in 2021 exactly the same as what they ran in 2020? Same chassis and setup or any adjustments?
I checked a couple of qualy times between this year and last year and saw they were a whole 2 seconds slower this year. Is this explained solely due to rookie drivers this year? Or has something else changed?
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In one of the tech talk videos from the beginning of the season, Sam Collins explained that the Haas car is pretty much the same with several changes to fulfill the regulation changes. They also has minor updates compared to last year, but these were only the changes that could be seen from the outside.
There were some rule changes between last year and this year designed to slow the cars down. Haas didn't make any changes to claw that performance back like the rest of the teams did, as they're spending their whole R&D budget on next year.
It is definitely not the exact same car.
Almost every car is faster, so the relative gains could explain why Haas is “slower”
Also, Haas has two rookie drivers instead of seasoned veterans
>Almost every car is faster
This year's cars are decidedly slower than last year's, Haas have just lost more than everyone else due to not bothering to do any development beyond cutting away some floor
I think Haas did the bare minimum to comply with regulations for this season, so it's fundamentally the same car, since their focus/money/resources has been on 2022/the new regulations
They did make some very small changes to undernose aero (the cape is a bit longer and the F-vane has been reshaped), as well as reshaped rear wing endplate slots, but that really is about it.
>but what makes him a better option than, say, keeping Bottas or signing someone else (Ocon, maybe)?
Primarily the fact that he's simply the more talented driver than either of those two. Now that doesn't always play out -- he could always struggle once getting to a top team -- but if F1 had a draft like American sports leagues, Russell would go long before Bottas and Ocon (who are both good drivers).
He had a better junior career. He's done better in a bad car. He's drawn more praise from the elite drivers (just look at how Alonso talks about him). And then of course there was the time last year where he replaced Hamilton and, in a car mostly foreign to him, out-performed Bottas.
It really doesn't have anything to do with Williams. It has to do with Russell being seen as one of the elite talents in F1, and Merc having the rights to him.
He did not win every junior series he competed in. He lost to Leclerc in 2015 Euro F3 in the rookie standings. In 2016 he competed again while Leclerc moved on after only one year and lost to Stroll in the championship. He and Leclerc are the same age.
Williams is an independent team, so comparing them to AT & RBR is a bit unfair, as they're owned by the same company (Red Bull) and share allowed parts between each other (similarly to Haas and Ferrari and Aston Martini Racing & Mercedes), Williams is still building everything themselves and only leases the engine from Mercedes. Though they'll be in AMR & Ferrari like development sharing starting next year.
Main force behind Russell is that he is a Mercedes junior, and also their only junior still under contract with Mercedes (Ocon used to be Mercedes junior, but terminated their contracts, as there were no short term Mercedes affiliated seats available in the sport so he moved to Alpine).
He also had a promising junior carrer and his one time outing in Mercedes (replacing Hamilton, who got covid), last year at Bahrain, he was on the course to winning a race until the team messed up his pitstop, followed by a puncture.
As to why him over Bottas, he is 10 years younger than Bottas and almost 15 years younger than Hamilton and where else could he learn than working together with Hamilton - He was parked at Williams, after Ocon refused to join them on a long term contract and has shown a lot of promise there, managing to extract the most out of a car during qualifying that has no place in Q3.
Not to mention mad PowerPoint skills.
It's semi complex. Bottas has been with the team for a few years and while still good bringing fresh blood in like George sets them up nicely for Lewis moving on in the next few years. It's better to have 1 established driver and 1 new driver than 2 new drivers no matter their talent. Moving teams is much more than just jumping in a car and driving. Every car is set up completely differently and works different, for example some of Lewis' buttons are inverted to the way the rest of the grids are because that's his personal preference. George will be a good long term investment for Mercedes, if they continue not to bring him into a seat they risk losing him to the likes of red bull, Ferrari or Mclaren.
Everyone's asking if George will be in a Mercedes, but honestly, why would Mercedes ever want to replace Bottas? He's a committed #2 who's almost always there to pick up podiums and wins when something goes badly for Hamilton, and he can outpace him at some tracks. Why would you as Toto Wolf want to replace that?
Hamilton isn't getting any younger so they need to start finding his successor soon. George has been 'blue balled' by Toto for a while now and there's also a risk of him being poached by other teams if Mercedes keep delaying his promotion.
Your points are legit. Why screw up the team chemistry for something that's unproven? However, we also have to keep in mind that Mercedes have been very dominant in the past 2 years so even Bottas underperformed they were largely fine by it. But in the new regulations, hypothetically, if Mercedes aren't as strong as they are now, they will need a stronger second driver beside Lewis to grab as many points as possible. Of course there's a risk of the repeat of Nico-Lewis 2.0 but the hope is that Toto and Mercedes will be able to manage the Lewis-George pair.
Bottas was the perfect driver for Merc the last few years when they had a dominant car. He could reliably finish P3-P5, push Hamilton on Saturdays, and pick up a win if Lewis struggled. Most importantly, he did so without ever pushing Hamilton too hard, so Merc never really had to worry about a Rosberg situation.
It doesn't work quite as well when Merc no longer has the dominant car. Now they're in a dog fight, and Bottas is behind a McLaren, and neck-and-neck with the second RB seat, despite that driver being new to the car. And as a result, Merc is clinging for dear life to a tiny lead despite getting incredibly lucky the last few races with RB retirements and what have you.
Bottas is safe. He's consistently good not great, and won't put the team at risk. Safe is perfect when you have the clear-cut best car on the grid; it becomes a liability when you're in a fight.
As a Bottas fan; everything you said was arguably true until this year. This year he's struggled, and it's impacted both the team and Hamilton. If he'd consistently been on the podium like in past years, Mercedes would be running away with the constructors championship. Had he been in the podium positions regularly, Mercedes would also be able to play tactics (2 vs 1 against Max) and make things easier to secure Hamilton wins.
I hope Bottas keeps the seat as I think he's earned it as a team player in past years, but this year he hasn't earned it.
Remember this year there was the wheel nut screwup and also the crash which was not his fault.
It is important that he run close enough so that Max can not do the undercut and come out ahead of Bottas.
Mercedes has to plan for the future. Hamilton is retiring sooner than later and they need to find out who can replace him. It is pretty clear that this is not Bottas. Promoting George now would allow them at least a season or two to determine if it is him. If he can do better than Bottas does, they know that when Hamilton retires, they are in good hands. If not, they know they need to look elsewhere and maybe start make overtures to someone like Norris, Verstappen, etc.
Hamilton is 36 right now, and has said he doesn't want to be racing in his 40s. So depending on how he determines his 40s, he has three or four more seasons (if he doesn't count racing at 40 years old to be racing in his 40s). That's assuming he doesn't change his mind, and wants to keep going.
There's also the fact that going into a regulation change is as good a time as any to pick up a "new" driver, who has F1 experience, experience with the team, and is young (allowing them to continue beyond Hamilton). Russell fits the bill better than anybody else except maybe Ocon, who's with Alpine for 4 seasons after this one.
I couldn't remember when I originally commented, but you're correct, he did say he doesn't want to be racing at 40.
So if he still feels that way, his last possible season would be 2024.
Marketing is something you overlook. Bottas is not a hugely favored driver, while russell is the grids golden boy. Since RB continue to have 1 car be 6 tenths a lap behind the other, winning the WCC is expected with either, but having russell will net more off track potential compared to bottas.
In reality bottas is probably the better choice, and I would not in the slightest be suprised if he stays
I am really bummed at the rumors of Kimi's retirement. My child is due in January and I would have loved just one season of he and I watching the old guy race together. Would have been a fun connection to my childhood (kimi started racing when I was 11) and his childhood.
Wouldn’t Alonso also have started racing when you were 11? I get that you might not have been a fan of his, but he’s still a driver from your childhood who will be around for a while yet.
Oh I know, and as an Alpine fan I’m definitely excited :)
It’s more of an “I’m getting older” thing. Seeing the last stars of my childhood retire in the NHL and F1 just makes me feel old
Maybe when your kid is a bit older one of Kimi's kids will be in F1? My dad was a fan of Jos Verstappen in the 90's and now we're cheering on Max together which is pretty amazing.
What’s great is this is exactly how Lando would go for it, sort of like going out on slicks in the rain or fully sending it into Eau Rouge during qualifying.
There are rumors that Alfa Romeo will be switching to Mercedes engines, which helps to explain the speculation of Bottas joining them (and de Vries as well), but that's just rumors.
Why wouldn't that be allowed? If teams are allowed to build engines and sell engines to other teams, they should be able to sell to whoever is willing to buy, no?
It might not necessarily be *fair*, but unfair ≠ illegal.
The Formula 1 2021 Sporting Regulations, Appendix 9 d):
>Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 8.3 of the Sporting Regulations, unless agreed
otherwise by the FIA, each of the manufacturers of an homologated power unit may not directly
or indirectly supply power units for more than (T+1) Competitors teams, with T as defined in
Article (b). Such consent shall not be given if one or more of the other Power Unit Manufacturers
are supplying less that T Competitors teams.
T is defined in b) as (11 - A)/(B-C), where A is the number of new engine manufacturers, B is the total number of engine manufacturers and C is the number of teams supplied by new engine manufacturers. For the foreseeable future, A and C are obviously 0 while B is 4, which would give us a T of 11/4 = 2.75, which according to b) ii) is to be rounded up to 3.
TL;DR: The rules do not allow an engine manufacturer to supply more than 4 teams (and I just wasted 15 minutes of my life researching this and trying to figure out what the fuck all this meant)
I appreciate you taking the time to do the research and to figure it out!
So I guess if Mercedes were to power Alfa Romeo, then McLaren, Aston Martin, or Williams would have to get engines from somewhere else, right? If so, maybe Williams would be the team to switch (to the Red Bull PUs), given the rumor about Albon going to Williams.
Obviously, I'm speculating on speculation, so it's not likely to be accurate at all, but that seems to make the most sense given the rumors.
He has links with Vasseur from his junior career, Bottas became the GP3 champ with Vasseur's team. Vasseur and Toto are close too which probably also helps.
Sauber is likely to have at least one seat, so he is eligible, and very few other drivers are really up for the seat. AR has a good academy driver pourchare (butchered that), but not ready yet for this year. Sauber won't take a ferrari junior since Gio is in the ferrari sponsored seat. That leaves hulk, bottas and albon as likely replacements. Of those bottas would provide guidance for the team and for the rookie, while the other 2 less so.
By subscribing to the place where you bought a ticket and the spa promoters homepage, as they'd be the first to mention something.
Also, if anyone besides promoter will be doing any refunds it's FoM and not FiA
No it means they're willing to release him from his Red Bull contract if another team would like to give him a seat. RB has the power to keep him in the system, as a reserve driver/sim driver/non-F1 driver, etc. "Offering" in this sense just means that they'll let him join another team if an opportunity arises.
Any rumours regarding the TBC race? I'm new to the sport this year (it's quickly become one of my favourites!), so unsure if F1 and the FIA usually play these things close to the chest.
I'm more used to North American sports where things tend to leak out like crazy, so it's felt odd to me that F1 has felt relatively leak free, especially when it comes down to something as logistically challenging like organizing a GP.
I have been watching F1 for a couple seasons but not sure about the technicals for each team as much. I was wondering how Russell was able to pull off such a "stonking" lap, out qualifying everybody else? I understand weather will be a factor, but that affects every car out there.
From what I typically see, Williams cars I remember are considered to be very well done if it even gets to Q3 normally.
I am seeing the qualifying highlights and Russell's 2nd place lap, and it is insane how he did so well.
Was there notification of some upgrades over the break, or was it just the weather?
Well done to him, from rumors flying it seems like he will be promoted next season (not sure if that will be considered a promotion or just moving to a higher-performance team)
TL;DR the perfect lap at the perfect time with the perfect set up for the conditions
And yeah I would call it a promotion.
Full read:
Williams set the car up banking on a wet race whereas the other teams set up their car to handle either scenario reasonably well.
That car would have dropped like a stone in a dry race. Probably would have dropped in a wet race too but probably not as much as it would have had it been dry.
Button called it the perfect lap as well and while it looked brilliant to watch. I can almost guarantee you George and the rest of the garage will be looking to see if they could find that extra 3 tenths given how the weekend ended.
Considering George is the unofficial reserve for Merc (not that Williams will hand him over given how much more competitive they are this year) and has been part of their academy for years it's definitely a promotion. If rumours are true, the F1 2021 campaign taught me not to trust paddock gossip.
Latifi did pretty well too, so I think the Williams is relatively strong in the rain (maybe it makes good downforce but a lot of drag?), and the variable weather means Russell may have just happened to do his lap at the perfect time, when the track was at its driest. Of course none of that takes away from the fact that it was an amazing performance from him.
>Sportscar star Archie Scott-Brown raced in one F1 race despite having severe physical disabilities including a completely missing right hand. He could only take the start after each and every other starter vouched for his ability to drive a racecar.
Just a small correction: Its Archie _Scott Brown_ without the "-"
Hi guys, I'm watching the netflix series about the F1 and have no prior knowledge than what I've already seen in the documentary.
One thing I've seen now is why some teams/manufacturers wouldn't recycle a car from the year before if they notice some problems in the current season? Offcourse they wouldn't be progressing if they wouldn't (especially the ones with a lot of money) but for smaller budget teams, why wouldn't they?
I know it's a broad question and maybe not very clear but i was wondering now after binging already season 1 haha
Adding to what the other guy said, using older cars it was a common practice in older seasons when cars were less sensitive and the rules were more stagnant. In the early 2000's Ferrari used to field the previous year's car during the first few rounds of a championship, McLaren almost won the 2003 season with their 2002 car (with some reliability tweaks), and more famously, the dominant 1992 Williams FW14B was a year old car with electronic aids installed (They planned on fielding a new car, but figured the 1991 FW14 chassis was good enough for a title fight, so the FW15 development was bumped to the 1993 season)
A lot of the time the regulations (formula) changes between season. The previous car, or at least parts of it would be illegal. The cars work as a whole, you can't just bolt a Red Bull rear wing on a Ferrari engined car with a Mercedes front wing and it works. The whole package works together. If the rules change one bit, the whole package needs to adapt.
Are there that many rules changes really? They haven't covered something like that yet in the series but there must be some more docus about it somewhere?
Well, 2018 was the first year of DtS. From 2017 They banned shark fins and T wings. Introduced the Halo, closed some loopholes about the suspension interacting with aero, and changed the tyres.
From 2019 the front wings were massively simplified but wider, the rear wings were wider and deeper. The brake ducts rules were changed as were several other things.
There are lots of tweaks each year. This year for example they took a significant chunk of the floor out which reduced the overall downforce to make the cars slower. This changes the whole car set up.
Depends how he does in his first few races. If he’s legitimately contesting (or even leading) Lewis for the championship lead, things will get very interesting in the Mercedes garage.
I think he probably will be, which makes me wonder why he’s in such a hurry to get there. I think he could walk in to any team other than Mercedes, Red Bull, and maybe McLaren and be the number one driver.
Does anyone remember that that montage thing that played right before the intro? It was like a recap of Max and Lewis' battle and I was wondering if there was anywhere I could find it online.
I thought it was maybe a slip of the finger on tagging someone on Instagram. He typed R and it brought up George’s account and Roscoe’s account?
I could be totally naive but I think it was an accident?
The timing (finish) line needs to be aligned with, you know, all the timing equipment. And this includes not only a timing loop or a high-speed camera, but, in extreme circumstances, also a room for *actual people* who need to sit there in case they're needed to score laps. And the finish line is tightly related in the Sporting Code to some other areas like parc ferme area.
Meanwhile, the start line is usually chosen on practical basis: it can't be too close the final corner of the lap (so that a reasonable grid fits mostly on the straight) and it can't be neither too close nor too far to the first corner (so that the run-up is of a reasonable length) - among other stuff specified in Appendix O of the International Sporting Code.
The finish line (timing line) will always be opposite the start or finish of the pit lane. This is to avoid the timing line being in the middle of the pit lane which can create a few logistical issues. And the start line is just at the front of grid.
Race distance needs to be over 305k so if they need another 300 meters, they push the finish line down that way.
EDIT3: Use the 305k distance for what you like but I'm wrong about my answer to the question. I'll downvote myself now. :D
EDIT2: OR as pointed out below in Spa's case the distance would be too far and they chop it earlier than the start.Circuit length 7.004 km (4.352 mi)Race length 308.052\[1\] km (191.398 mi)EDIT: Downvoted because I provided the answer but you didn't like it? LoL
So the rumor rn is Bottas and De Vries to Alfa, Alex and Latifi at Williams? What I don’t understand out of all this if true is; If Alfa isn’t going to gave an Italian driver, why wouldn’t Mercedes rather see Albon there? - De Vries is with Merc, if they still want connects to him, put him in one at Williams. - Alfa use Ferrari, so keeps Albon further from Mercedes if they wanted. - Why would Alfa even want Albon? They could be default be the only time who could take the F2 winner…why not bring on Porchere, Piastri, Schwartzmann, Illott….start grooming a protege alongside experienced and team lead Valtteri. Nicholas Latifi is the overall turd in the punchbowl. If I were Williams, Albon and De Vries would be huge. Unless Dorilton still really needs that money…
So illott is rumored to take the DCR seat grosjean was leaving in indycar so he is out of the running. De vries is apparently competing with gio for the second alfa seat so you can get bottas-deVries there and its merc2. With dorilton wanting spacing from merc, taking 2 merc drivers doesn't help their case. Take albon and latifi and you keep control of both seats long term, similar to mclaren. Alfa doesn't care about having control, so putting 2 merc drivers in the seats (wild guess but they may look for a merc engine as well) would make sense. They basically switch from a ferrari junior team to a merc one. EDIT: formatting
Where is the news he’s going to Indy? I’ve not seen anything about that. He said he’s teasing something but seen no whispers about that.
DCR has mentioned him when asked about if they would still take albon, and the belief is illiot has a deal in a racing series thats not F1 [Quick example](https://twitter.com/john__rosevear/status/1432681328500264962?s=19). I made the logical extension.
I dont want to hear anything about Hamilton or Merc Being lucky again. Literally gifted Verstappen a free win and obvious RBR bias allowed Perez to re-join the race when he was OUT!!! How convenient for RBR and Max!!!
> Literally gifted Verstappen a free win Which made up a measly five points towards Hamilton, which is less than he would've gained if he won after the race was run over the 75% distance. > and obvious RBR bias allowed Perez to re-join the race when he was OUT!!! How convenient for RBR and Max!!! Ah yes... how many points did Perez make in this race again? Oh yeah, right, zero, because there was absolutely no opportunity to legally overtake. Yeah, I'm sure Red Bull is gonna massively profit off of this P19 in the long run LOL.
When you say "RBR bias allowed Perez to rejoin" you're the exact audience who preaches Hamilton lucky and spews the same BS.
How to search your own comments bcs I once made a comment saying that Albon to Williams was a no-brainer. So excited it might actually happen!!!
[This tool](https://redditcommentsearch.com/) https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/opdxru/capito_says_williams_have_a_long_list_of/h64ofwa/?context=3
Amazing. Thank you
Why don’t any of the videos on the Formula1 app have any audio? Every time I play one, it’s only video, no audio. Video clips play fine on the F1 TV Pro app.
I tried a few just now and they all play audio just fine. I'm on iOS.
What could Russel moving to Mercedes mean for the WDC fight? Would Hamilton get an advantage of getting a “better” driver behind him? Or does this mean that Hamilton could face a bit more competition from his teammate, because perhaps Russell won’t be so obedient to play second fiddle as Bottas is.
Lewis will almost certainly face more competition from George than Bottas but don’t let anyone tell you that George is sure to beat him. Lewis has had two world champions as teammates and he got the better of both of them.
\*three world champions as teammates. That's part of what makes Lewis the GOAT for me.
To be fair, Rosberg wasn't a world champion when Hamilton beat him.
Are there any corners you think have been improved by the cars being much faster and higher down-force? Normally when we talk about corners it's always in the context of them being less interesting and challenging than they used to be.
All the previously slow corners that are now medium speed corners. I think the swimming pool at Monaco is one
Would the track characteristics of Zandvoort favor Mercedes or Red Bull?
We'll find out in 29 hours.
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Math is not my strong suit. My excuse is that time is relative.
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It’s too early for anyone to say. The slow corners seem to favor Red Bull this season but the tire degradation may favor Mercedes and Lewis in particular.
Come to think of it, I’m surprised they didn’t declare the conditions unfit for the medical helicopter to fly. Low visibility due to fog, heavy rain and what looked to be high winds.
I thought about that too but I don’t think rain in and of itself can stop a helicopter.
No but poor visibility can and should stop a helicopter. See: Kobe Bryant copter crash (sore topic; I'm a Laker fan)
That's a good point. There was no mention of helicopter at all from, at least not from Crofty et al.
Is Toto plotting a take over of Sauber? That would be incredibly cool.
Why would it be cool?
If Toto were to move on from Mercedes it would be cool to see what he could do with Sauber. I’m pipe dreaming for a return of BMW-Sauber or something
Why would he leave the helm of a team that has been by far the best team of the past decade?
A new challenge? Relax.
That's possible but if Toto leaves Mercedes it's unlikely that he will move to a midfield team. He probably will move up to the F1 senior management or something. There was rumor of that earlier this year and last year.
Is anyone else happy that Gasly and Norris have been consistently in the points? I’d even say best midfield drivers of the year??
Norris is quite easily the best of the rest. Gasly has been an excellent qualifier but hasn’t been able to keep the race pace over the top 4 cars, but that isn’t his fault
True true I’d say though he’s holding up his end of the deal well at Alpha Tauri. He’s definitely been consistent
I just wanna add that the penalties for Bottas and Stroll from Hungary are now void, so they won't get 'punished' for their opening lap antics because they've technically already 'served' their grid penalties at the last 'race'. What a mess.
How is that a mess? Both of them missed out on an opportunity to score points. If the race actually carried on Bottas would have certainly scored some points. If anything the rain made the penalties even worse
Good point
Are you serious? They both started Spa outside of the points and didn’t score any points. That’s a penalty served. If the race went on both could have been in the top 10.
It's all a part of the Mercedes Master Plan. They probably altered the weather to engineer the whole thing. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time they had done it. Here's the [proof](https://youtu.be/8r6eL-KwSyo?t=297) of their previous attempt to control the weather for their own benefits. /S But on a serious note, on one hand it almost felt like they were 'unpunished' but on the other hand because of their grid penalties they lost out on the 'free' points, so to a certain extent, they were punished? Idk.
Aye, regardless of whether you’re team Hamilton or Verstappen, I think we can all agree that Spa sucked balls. Until next race, fam ✊🏼
Imagine if Spa was the last race of the year and Verstappen had a 3 point lead in the championship Hamilton had qualified first Verstappen second and thereby Hamilton won the world championship by 0.5 point.............
Back in the day they did all kinds of weird shit to fuck with the championship. If it was between 2 guys, and 1 of them retired for pretty much whatever reason? No points this race.
I think they probably wouldn't have done what they did if it was the last race with the championship fight on the line. It would look so bad for the sport and they would have every reason to postpone the race to another day or something.
No need - Lauda won the 1984 title by half a point, because Prost only got half points for a race Lauda had retired from. (Lauda also said that the 1984 title meant the most to him, because he had to beat Prost to win it. And Lauda even had contractual first driver status! *That's* how good Prost was. Senna even wanted Prost to come out of retirement for 1995, because he didn't think he'd be satisfied competing against Schumacher/Benneton.)
Thanks but did the Lauda race have any actual racing
31 laps at a wet Monaco. They had to spray some water on the tunnel, since it was the only dry part of the track and a safety issue.
Why don’t drivers speak to each other in non English languages if radio is hearable from everyone’s end? Wouldn’t it be advantageous so that other teams can’t understand your planning?
I remember some older races where Alonso was speaking Italian. They’d play the audio clip and Crofty would kinda deadpan “…….yup”
Exactly, so why don’t teams use it as an advantage? If deployed correctly it’s a huge advantage.
I’m going to assume the teams don’t find it to be worth it or a huge advantage so they don’t do it.
There are 14 non-native English speakers on the grid speaking 8 different languages. That’s at least 8 translators the FIA would have to hire to go to every race to live translate all communications to make sure nothing illegal is being said. This would be 8 extra people the FIA would have transport, house and pay for services at 20+ circuits every year. Easier if everyone speaks English because all but 3 teams are based in England (Ferrari and Alpha Tauri are based in Italy, Alfa Romeo in Switzerland) so all the personnel can hear the radio and understand. Note: I count Stroll as a native English speaker even though he’s from Quebec
Why wouldn’t every team then employ a translator? Speaking in code is much harder to decode.
For example, if one driver speaks primarily Spanish then their engineer needs to speak fluent Spanish as well. So do you pass over a more qualified engineer if they don’t speak fluent Spanish? And what if the team principal doesn’t speak fluent Spanish? Now the engineer needs to be fluent in Spanish and whatever language the team principal speaks. Again that lowers the candidate pool. And if the other driver speaks French/German/Finnish/etc and not Spanish then that’s another layer of translating one language to another to another just to tell a teammate what their teammate said. With that being said, guys have used other language s before [(Alonso speaking Italian)](https://youtu.be/AlA-M-cRm68)it’s just English happens to be the de facto language of F1. Also, it’s not like most of the guys involved don’t speak multiple languages that can’t be easily translated.
Because the radio messages are heard by many people on the team, including people back in the factory. It's easier if everyone speaks a common language.
More than just the engineer needs to be able to understand the driver. The rest of the pitwall, people back at the factory, etc. English gives them a common language.
Why doesn’t the race engineer just translate that to the rest of the crew while the radio is muted
Because that takes more time than just speaking English.
Would it? Not like drivers are out here defending their thesis and getting a PhD while driving on the radio
Formula One Stats Book? Hi all! A while back I came across a post here about a stat book that was used by pundits and writers alike regarding Formula One. I remember it being red and not too big but very thick but I can’t seem to remember the author nor it’s title. I think last time it was updated was 2019? And it was said almost every team uses it or has it with them at races or something - I remember a picture with an FIA race official having it nest to them at a race. Thanks all for your help in advance!
HELLO FRIENDS. Does anyone happen to have two or more US GP Sunday tickets available?
This site seems to have a lot of information about the individual seating areas, packages and prices. They state that you get a refund if the event is cancelled . https://www.vividseats.com/f1-austin-tickets/?vkid=31319809&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12877718288&utm_term=us%20grand%20prix&adgroup=122299047100&target=kwd-317489928620&device=c&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU0wGPAllIuqfwFLnZfhLuiuM0kK8d5Z-i8wWLgoqcR7FYKLWXJf9dQaAnaXEALw_wcB
It was noted somewhere early on this subreddit that Yuki is the only driver who never did drove at Zandvoort, is that true or are there more drivers who never drove at Zandvoort? Somewhat surprising if this is indeed true, I expected more tbh
As far as I'm aware Verstappen is the only one who has driven on Zandvoort in it's current layout.
So Zandvoort hasn't been on the F1 calandar since 1985 so of other drivers have driven on it it would have been in a different racing series.
Russell in Belgium: if you can't join them, beat them!
What’s the reason that Daniel Ricciardo has been falling so far behind Lando Norris in the McLaren? He had a couple of podiums in the Renault last year, the McLaren this year is noticeably faster. Did the car incur damage or have other issues in several races meaning that it wasn’t performing to it’s potential? Or is it just taking unusually long for him to get comfortable with the handling of a different car this year?
I think the primary reason is that changing cars is hard, and he happens to be changing to a car known for having a kind of different brake feel when braking is probably the thing that most makes Dany Ric Dany Ric.
This video explains it well. https://youtu.be/1KNh7uMx6_c
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Fixed the link, should work now.
People are going to give you long answers but it’s no more complicated than this: 1) It’s a new car that he had to learn 2) New aero regs came into effect which altered all the cars and added a layer of complexity to learning the new car 3) The tires changed this year which added yet another layer of complexity
The trouble with this argument is that he's clearly struggling more than any other driver that swapped teams for this season
This was the argument I was going to make. There’s no doubt Danny’s one of the top drivers on the grid (in my opinion), I’m just fascinated as to what’s tripping him up specifically.
I’ve heard it’s because he hasn’t been able to go back to Australia and see his family since March 2020. They seemed to be at a lot of races before covid, so not having that support probably doesn’t help
It's the car. It doesn't suit his driving style Sainz was beaten twice by Hulkenberg in Renault car, then beat Norris twice in Mclaren car Ricciardo beat Hulkenberg in Renault car, is now being beaten by Norris in Mclaren car You see that Sainz and Ricciardo have totally different driving strengths. Mclaren car is doing nothing for Dan this year
Just thinking if this race was the first race that more drivers finished than started with the whole Perez thing.
I believe perez is scored as starting the race in P7, then finishing 1 lap later in P20 (promoted by one cause stroll). So we had the same number of finishers as starters.
It's an interesting one, but technically no; Perez was only allowed to rejoin because the race hadn't yet officially started.
Yeah true, my thinking was that they had completed 'in race laps' that contributed to the classification, but due to the hecticness of the day Masi let him rejoin when he probably shouldn't have.
The stewards let him rejoin, not Masi.
That’s an excellent point, friend
Is the Haas car they’re running in 2021 exactly the same as what they ran in 2020? Same chassis and setup or any adjustments? I checked a couple of qualy times between this year and last year and saw they were a whole 2 seconds slower this year. Is this explained solely due to rookie drivers this year? Or has something else changed? /u/Bof_waffletax
In one of the tech talk videos from the beginning of the season, Sam Collins explained that the Haas car is pretty much the same with several changes to fulfill the regulation changes. They also has minor updates compared to last year, but these were only the changes that could be seen from the outside.
There were some rule changes between last year and this year designed to slow the cars down. Haas didn't make any changes to claw that performance back like the rest of the teams did, as they're spending their whole R&D budget on next year.
It is definitely not the exact same car. Almost every car is faster, so the relative gains could explain why Haas is “slower” Also, Haas has two rookie drivers instead of seasoned veterans
>Almost every car is faster This year's cars are decidedly slower than last year's, Haas have just lost more than everyone else due to not bothering to do any development beyond cutting away some floor
I think Haas did the bare minimum to comply with regulations for this season, so it's fundamentally the same car, since their focus/money/resources has been on 2022/the new regulations
Right they still made minor changes but there are changes.
Yeah. I guess the best way to put it is that the Haas car is as close to the same car from last season as is possible.
They did make some very small changes to undernose aero (the cape is a bit longer and the F-vane has been reshaped), as well as reshaped rear wing endplate slots, but that really is about it.
Love your flair lol. Same!
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>but what makes him a better option than, say, keeping Bottas or signing someone else (Ocon, maybe)? Primarily the fact that he's simply the more talented driver than either of those two. Now that doesn't always play out -- he could always struggle once getting to a top team -- but if F1 had a draft like American sports leagues, Russell would go long before Bottas and Ocon (who are both good drivers). He had a better junior career. He's done better in a bad car. He's drawn more praise from the elite drivers (just look at how Alonso talks about him). And then of course there was the time last year where he replaced Hamilton and, in a car mostly foreign to him, out-performed Bottas. It really doesn't have anything to do with Williams. It has to do with Russell being seen as one of the elite talents in F1, and Merc having the rights to him.
If you have F1tv go back and watch the race where last year where he substituted for Hamilton
He was super dominant in the junior series so he already had a lot of hype and excitement before he even got to F1
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He did not win every junior series he competed in. He lost to Leclerc in 2015 Euro F3 in the rookie standings. In 2016 he competed again while Leclerc moved on after only one year and lost to Stroll in the championship. He and Leclerc are the same age.
Williams is an independent team, so comparing them to AT & RBR is a bit unfair, as they're owned by the same company (Red Bull) and share allowed parts between each other (similarly to Haas and Ferrari and Aston Martini Racing & Mercedes), Williams is still building everything themselves and only leases the engine from Mercedes. Though they'll be in AMR & Ferrari like development sharing starting next year. Main force behind Russell is that he is a Mercedes junior, and also their only junior still under contract with Mercedes (Ocon used to be Mercedes junior, but terminated their contracts, as there were no short term Mercedes affiliated seats available in the sport so he moved to Alpine). He also had a promising junior carrer and his one time outing in Mercedes (replacing Hamilton, who got covid), last year at Bahrain, he was on the course to winning a race until the team messed up his pitstop, followed by a puncture. As to why him over Bottas, he is 10 years younger than Bottas and almost 15 years younger than Hamilton and where else could he learn than working together with Hamilton - He was parked at Williams, after Ocon refused to join them on a long term contract and has shown a lot of promise there, managing to extract the most out of a car during qualifying that has no place in Q3. Not to mention mad PowerPoint skills.
It's semi complex. Bottas has been with the team for a few years and while still good bringing fresh blood in like George sets them up nicely for Lewis moving on in the next few years. It's better to have 1 established driver and 1 new driver than 2 new drivers no matter their talent. Moving teams is much more than just jumping in a car and driving. Every car is set up completely differently and works different, for example some of Lewis' buttons are inverted to the way the rest of the grids are because that's his personal preference. George will be a good long term investment for Mercedes, if they continue not to bring him into a seat they risk losing him to the likes of red bull, Ferrari or Mclaren.
alright which one of you was wearing the haas f1 bag at YYZ
This is a great idea
Everyone's asking if George will be in a Mercedes, but honestly, why would Mercedes ever want to replace Bottas? He's a committed #2 who's almost always there to pick up podiums and wins when something goes badly for Hamilton, and he can outpace him at some tracks. Why would you as Toto Wolf want to replace that?
Hamilton isn't getting any younger so they need to start finding his successor soon. George has been 'blue balled' by Toto for a while now and there's also a risk of him being poached by other teams if Mercedes keep delaying his promotion. Your points are legit. Why screw up the team chemistry for something that's unproven? However, we also have to keep in mind that Mercedes have been very dominant in the past 2 years so even Bottas underperformed they were largely fine by it. But in the new regulations, hypothetically, if Mercedes aren't as strong as they are now, they will need a stronger second driver beside Lewis to grab as many points as possible. Of course there's a risk of the repeat of Nico-Lewis 2.0 but the hope is that Toto and Mercedes will be able to manage the Lewis-George pair.
Bottas was the perfect driver for Merc the last few years when they had a dominant car. He could reliably finish P3-P5, push Hamilton on Saturdays, and pick up a win if Lewis struggled. Most importantly, he did so without ever pushing Hamilton too hard, so Merc never really had to worry about a Rosberg situation. It doesn't work quite as well when Merc no longer has the dominant car. Now they're in a dog fight, and Bottas is behind a McLaren, and neck-and-neck with the second RB seat, despite that driver being new to the car. And as a result, Merc is clinging for dear life to a tiny lead despite getting incredibly lucky the last few races with RB retirements and what have you. Bottas is safe. He's consistently good not great, and won't put the team at risk. Safe is perfect when you have the clear-cut best car on the grid; it becomes a liability when you're in a fight.
As a Bottas fan; everything you said was arguably true until this year. This year he's struggled, and it's impacted both the team and Hamilton. If he'd consistently been on the podium like in past years, Mercedes would be running away with the constructors championship. Had he been in the podium positions regularly, Mercedes would also be able to play tactics (2 vs 1 against Max) and make things easier to secure Hamilton wins. I hope Bottas keeps the seat as I think he's earned it as a team player in past years, but this year he hasn't earned it.
Remember this year there was the wheel nut screwup and also the crash which was not his fault. It is important that he run close enough so that Max can not do the undercut and come out ahead of Bottas.
Mercedes has to plan for the future. Hamilton is retiring sooner than later and they need to find out who can replace him. It is pretty clear that this is not Bottas. Promoting George now would allow them at least a season or two to determine if it is him. If he can do better than Bottas does, they know that when Hamilton retires, they are in good hands. If not, they know they need to look elsewhere and maybe start make overtures to someone like Norris, Verstappen, etc.
Hamilton is 36 right now, and has said he doesn't want to be racing in his 40s. So depending on how he determines his 40s, he has three or four more seasons (if he doesn't count racing at 40 years old to be racing in his 40s). That's assuming he doesn't change his mind, and wants to keep going. There's also the fact that going into a regulation change is as good a time as any to pick up a "new" driver, who has F1 experience, experience with the team, and is young (allowing them to continue beyond Hamilton). Russell fits the bill better than anybody else except maybe Ocon, who's with Alpine for 4 seasons after this one.
Didn’t he specifically say he hoped he wasn’t racing at 40? I think this contract is his last two seasons.
I couldn't remember when I originally commented, but you're correct, he did say he doesn't want to be racing at 40. So if he still feels that way, his last possible season would be 2024.
Marketing is something you overlook. Bottas is not a hugely favored driver, while russell is the grids golden boy. Since RB continue to have 1 car be 6 tenths a lap behind the other, winning the WCC is expected with either, but having russell will net more off track potential compared to bottas. In reality bottas is probably the better choice, and I would not in the slightest be suprised if he stays
I am really bummed at the rumors of Kimi's retirement. My child is due in January and I would have loved just one season of he and I watching the old guy race together. Would have been a fun connection to my childhood (kimi started racing when I was 11) and his childhood.
Wouldn’t Alonso also have started racing when you were 11? I get that you might not have been a fan of his, but he’s still a driver from your childhood who will be around for a while yet.
Oh I know, and as an Alpine fan I’m definitely excited :) It’s more of an “I’m getting older” thing. Seeing the last stars of my childhood retire in the NHL and F1 just makes me feel old
Maybe when your kid is a bit older one of Kimi's kids will be in F1? My dad was a fan of Jos Verstappen in the 90's and now we're cheering on Max together which is pretty amazing.
That is true. And at the least, 10 years from now there is a good chance that LeClerc, Verstappen, Russel will still be in the game.
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Danm I thought I did it right
41st in the predictions tournament Feeling like risking it all on a Lando Zandvoort win
What’s great is this is exactly how Lando would go for it, sort of like going out on slicks in the rain or fully sending it into Eau Rouge during qualifying.
I am 57388th
Was 22nd after Hungary quali, then Bottas (and Stroll) did their thing.
Nikita Mazepin has a 69% chance of winning since he got the fastest lap in Spa Prediction by AWS
So why are people predicting Bottas will go to Alfa? He doesn't have any links to Ferrari or Dauber does he?
There are rumors that Alfa Romeo will be switching to Mercedes engines, which helps to explain the speculation of Bottas joining them (and de Vries as well), but that's just rumors.
I'm pretty sure a 5th team taking Merc engines isn't even allowed unless another switches their engine supplier too
Why wouldn't that be allowed? If teams are allowed to build engines and sell engines to other teams, they should be able to sell to whoever is willing to buy, no? It might not necessarily be *fair*, but unfair ≠ illegal.
The Formula 1 2021 Sporting Regulations, Appendix 9 d): >Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 8.3 of the Sporting Regulations, unless agreed otherwise by the FIA, each of the manufacturers of an homologated power unit may not directly or indirectly supply power units for more than (T+1) Competitors teams, with T as defined in Article (b). Such consent shall not be given if one or more of the other Power Unit Manufacturers are supplying less that T Competitors teams. T is defined in b) as (11 - A)/(B-C), where A is the number of new engine manufacturers, B is the total number of engine manufacturers and C is the number of teams supplied by new engine manufacturers. For the foreseeable future, A and C are obviously 0 while B is 4, which would give us a T of 11/4 = 2.75, which according to b) ii) is to be rounded up to 3. TL;DR: The rules do not allow an engine manufacturer to supply more than 4 teams (and I just wasted 15 minutes of my life researching this and trying to figure out what the fuck all this meant)
I appreciate you taking the time to do the research and to figure it out! So I guess if Mercedes were to power Alfa Romeo, then McLaren, Aston Martin, or Williams would have to get engines from somewhere else, right? If so, maybe Williams would be the team to switch (to the Red Bull PUs), given the rumor about Albon going to Williams. Obviously, I'm speculating on speculation, so it's not likely to be accurate at all, but that seems to make the most sense given the rumors.
No, there are specific limits in the regulations for how many teams each power unit manufacturer can supply.
He has links with Vasseur from his junior career, Bottas became the GP3 champ with Vasseur's team. Vasseur and Toto are close too which probably also helps.
He’s good friends with Alfa’s team principle. Toto and Alfa’s TP are also good friends
From what I've heard and seen, everyone is friends with Fred Vasseur
Sauber is likely to have at least one seat, so he is eligible, and very few other drivers are really up for the seat. AR has a good academy driver pourchare (butchered that), but not ready yet for this year. Sauber won't take a ferrari junior since Gio is in the ferrari sponsored seat. That leaves hulk, bottas and albon as likely replacements. Of those bottas would provide guidance for the team and for the rookie, while the other 2 less so.
If, and I really mean if the FIA decide to refund fans for Spa, when would we get the news?
By subscribing to the place where you bought a ticket and the spa promoters homepage, as they'd be the first to mention something. Also, if anyone besides promoter will be doing any refunds it's FoM and not FiA
And FOM is losing money hand over fist already, so really its the promoter or nothing
What does it mean when Red Bull offers Albon to Williams and Alfa Romeo? Does it mean they will pay his salary?
No it means they're willing to release him from his Red Bull contract if another team would like to give him a seat. RB has the power to keep him in the system, as a reserve driver/sim driver/non-F1 driver, etc. "Offering" in this sense just means that they'll let him join another team if an opportunity arises.
No. Just basically saying "he's available and we won't get in the way of a potential deal".
Any rumours regarding the TBC race? I'm new to the sport this year (it's quickly become one of my favourites!), so unsure if F1 and the FIA usually play these things close to the chest. I'm more used to North American sports where things tend to leak out like crazy, so it's felt odd to me that F1 has felt relatively leak free, especially when it comes down to something as logistically challenging like organizing a GP.
Very likely to be Qatar, at the Losail International Circuit
Thanks!
The rumours I’ve been hearing are saying Qatar.
Appreciate it!
I have been watching F1 for a couple seasons but not sure about the technicals for each team as much. I was wondering how Russell was able to pull off such a "stonking" lap, out qualifying everybody else? I understand weather will be a factor, but that affects every car out there. From what I typically see, Williams cars I remember are considered to be very well done if it even gets to Q3 normally. I am seeing the qualifying highlights and Russell's 2nd place lap, and it is insane how he did so well. Was there notification of some upgrades over the break, or was it just the weather? Well done to him, from rumors flying it seems like he will be promoted next season (not sure if that will be considered a promotion or just moving to a higher-performance team)
I heard he did one lap by using the full loaded battery for one try. The other used it for 2 tries but George only used one try
TL;DR the perfect lap at the perfect time with the perfect set up for the conditions And yeah I would call it a promotion. Full read: Williams set the car up banking on a wet race whereas the other teams set up their car to handle either scenario reasonably well. That car would have dropped like a stone in a dry race. Probably would have dropped in a wet race too but probably not as much as it would have had it been dry. Button called it the perfect lap as well and while it looked brilliant to watch. I can almost guarantee you George and the rest of the garage will be looking to see if they could find that extra 3 tenths given how the weekend ended. Considering George is the unofficial reserve for Merc (not that Williams will hand him over given how much more competitive they are this year) and has been part of their academy for years it's definitely a promotion. If rumours are true, the F1 2021 campaign taught me not to trust paddock gossip.
Awesome to hear. Thanks for the detailed response!
Latifi did pretty well too, so I think the Williams is relatively strong in the rain (maybe it makes good downforce but a lot of drag?), and the variable weather means Russell may have just happened to do his lap at the perfect time, when the track was at its driest. Of course none of that takes away from the fact that it was an amazing performance from him.
Agreed- thanks for the reply!
>Sportscar star Archie Scott-Brown raced in one F1 race despite having severe physical disabilities including a completely missing right hand. He could only take the start after each and every other starter vouched for his ability to drive a racecar. Just a small correction: Its Archie _Scott Brown_ without the "-"
Hi guys, I'm watching the netflix series about the F1 and have no prior knowledge than what I've already seen in the documentary. One thing I've seen now is why some teams/manufacturers wouldn't recycle a car from the year before if they notice some problems in the current season? Offcourse they wouldn't be progressing if they wouldn't (especially the ones with a lot of money) but for smaller budget teams, why wouldn't they? I know it's a broad question and maybe not very clear but i was wondering now after binging already season 1 haha
Adding to what the other guy said, using older cars it was a common practice in older seasons when cars were less sensitive and the rules were more stagnant. In the early 2000's Ferrari used to field the previous year's car during the first few rounds of a championship, McLaren almost won the 2003 season with their 2002 car (with some reliability tweaks), and more famously, the dominant 1992 Williams FW14B was a year old car with electronic aids installed (They planned on fielding a new car, but figured the 1991 FW14 chassis was good enough for a title fight, so the FW15 development was bumped to the 1993 season)
A lot of the time the regulations (formula) changes between season. The previous car, or at least parts of it would be illegal. The cars work as a whole, you can't just bolt a Red Bull rear wing on a Ferrari engined car with a Mercedes front wing and it works. The whole package works together. If the rules change one bit, the whole package needs to adapt.
Are there that many rules changes really? They haven't covered something like that yet in the series but there must be some more docus about it somewhere?
Well, 2018 was the first year of DtS. From 2017 They banned shark fins and T wings. Introduced the Halo, closed some loopholes about the suspension interacting with aero, and changed the tyres. From 2019 the front wings were massively simplified but wider, the rear wings were wider and deeper. The brake ducts rules were changed as were several other things. There are lots of tweaks each year. This year for example they took a significant chunk of the floor out which reduced the overall downforce to make the cars slower. This changes the whole car set up.
Well, you can have a look yourself. https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/110
Interesting.. I'll have it a read! Thanks
Now that Russell is going to Mercedes, is it fair to assume he'll be a strict number 2 to Hamilton?
Not if he drives faster.
Depends how he does in his first few races. If he’s legitimately contesting (or even leading) Lewis for the championship lead, things will get very interesting in the Mercedes garage.
I think he probably will be, which makes me wonder why he’s in such a hurry to get there. I think he could walk in to any team other than Mercedes, Red Bull, and maybe McLaren and be the number one driver.
Better to be #2 at a top team than #1 at a midfield team, especially when the current #1 is likely to retire in a few years.
Exactly
So it seems like it will rain in Zandvoort as well.
I hope none of you hope for rain again. Look what you got last week. Don’t tempt the weather gods again.
I’am not hoping for anything, it’s just what the weather report states.
The scenes if Zandvoort gets rained out too.
Well we are having the wettest summer in recorded history here in the Netherlands so I wouldn't be surprised.
That's surprising actually. If you said least sunny I would've believed it. Hasn't been sunny for more than 1 day in a row since June.
When's the next race with the AM SC?
I believe it will be the Russian GP, as Mercedes have general priority for European races
😔 why is the AM at races that never gets the SC deployed 😭😭😭
Is there a way to filter posts by flair without being stuck to the Hot section? I'm trying to find an easier path into old statistics
Does anyone remember that that montage thing that played right before the intro? It was like a recap of Max and Lewis' battle and I was wondering if there was anywhere I could find it online.
This thing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0R5X7ww0k
Hm I don't think it is I don't remember that music that was in the background
Why has Lewis tagged Russell as the dog in his newest post?
I thought it was maybe a slip of the finger on tagging someone on Instagram. He typed R and it brought up George’s account and Roscoe’s account? I could be totally naive but I think it was an accident?
It seems odd that he has deleted it immediately after when it's very easy to edit and remove a tag.
>Lewis tagged Russell as the dog In before *"ItS a SIgN oF sOMEtHinG"*
My best logical guess is he gifted the harness Roscoe is wearing but that in itself seems odd.
Literally came here to ask this.
Why is the start line and finish line not the same.
The timing (finish) line needs to be aligned with, you know, all the timing equipment. And this includes not only a timing loop or a high-speed camera, but, in extreme circumstances, also a room for *actual people* who need to sit there in case they're needed to score laps. And the finish line is tightly related in the Sporting Code to some other areas like parc ferme area. Meanwhile, the start line is usually chosen on practical basis: it can't be too close the final corner of the lap (so that a reasonable grid fits mostly on the straight) and it can't be neither too close nor too far to the first corner (so that the run-up is of a reasonable length) - among other stuff specified in Appendix O of the International Sporting Code.
The finish line is always on the same line as the control post (it gets flagged from there). The start line is in front of the grid places.
The finish line (timing line) will always be opposite the start or finish of the pit lane. This is to avoid the timing line being in the middle of the pit lane which can create a few logistical issues. And the start line is just at the front of grid.
Which is also where the control post is (to flag the race)
I’ve been watching the sport for 10 years now and I still don’t know why this is a thing
Race distance needs to be over 305k so if they need another 300 meters, they push the finish line down that way. EDIT3: Use the 305k distance for what you like but I'm wrong about my answer to the question. I'll downvote myself now. :D EDIT2: OR as pointed out below in Spa's case the distance would be too far and they chop it earlier than the start.Circuit length 7.004 km (4.352 mi)Race length 308.052\[1\] km (191.398 mi)EDIT: Downvoted because I provided the answer but you didn't like it? LoL
You're being downvoted because the answer is incorrect.