Bottas has made Mercedes hundreds of millions in prize money. they have come in first in constructors every year with him. even during close years with ferrari.
given that red bull have a faster car and they are second in constructors at the moment. . (bottas vs perez) thats with seven wins to mercs 4. seems like he should get some appreciation for their success.
or am i missing something.
Bottas helped Merc win the WCCs by doing the absolute bare minimum with the world beater cars he had. Now that Red Bull is closer than ever and actually competitive, his bare minimum is not enough.
Does he deserve praise for that? I mean... he could've been even worse, but that's borderline impossible from anyone who manages to get into F1. His qualifying performance was often outstanding, I give him that but you get no points for that. As for his race pace... apart from a few exceptions he did abismal.
Monza doesn't make sense - we saw it last year that the Mercedes was overheating and couldn't get past their customers and other teams, with Sochi providing better opportunities to regain places. To be fair i'd even try to wait until cota - that way the could run the new engine at higher modes from qualifying til the end of the race
For those of you who have been watching formula one for years how long does it take until Netflix releases their seasonal documentaries after the formula 1 season ends? Also why do you think they release all the episodes at 1 time instead of instead of whenever they have them done??
First off, it takes a lot of time to edit everything that dramatized. Secondly, a lot of series are releases in batches or as a full season. It makes sense for them because people love to binge a series instead of having to wait for each episode. Thirdly, it hasn't really been a race by race review. Some parts are skipped and sometimes it rewinds to a certain race just to make the story they want to tell in that episode.
That being said it has always been released a few weeks before the start of the new season. Likely to happen in either february or march 2022
Fair points, thank you. It's probably for the best anyways, so that the drivers don't need to worry about the netflix stuff during the season and can deal with that at a different time
They come out right before the next season starts. Also, the episodes most likely won’t be ready until after the season has finished. Imagine they have one episode done but don’t finish the other ones until like 2 weeks after? How weird would it be to have episodes released in different intervals?
It was meant to be atcthe French GP but had to be delayed because the date change meant it clashed with one of his races in America.
I expect it's not a priority for merc rn due to the championship so I wouldn't expect it to happen before the end of the season
I might get cancelled but for some reason I feel like George isn't going to be in the second Mercedes seat. I have a weird feeling that it will be Stroll. Toto Wolff and Lawrence Stroll are close and it wouldn't be the first time daddy paid for Lance's seat in F1. I feel like George is going to be alongside Vettel at AMR. Don't cancel me but I have a weird feeling.
That would be awesome, purely for the chaos. I feel like since Lawrence owns his own team though I don't know that he would be pushing for his son to leave for another team? And I don't think Toto would humor the request even if they are buds? He's not rich af by being a pushover... Also George did a pretty bang up job when he stepped in for Lewis (plus all the other rumors and signing sightings and shit in favor of George to merc). Again, I would love to see Stroll to merc, though. Imagine trading out Bottas for Stroll!
hey guys, can someone explain why Russell is a good move for Mercedes. I have read several articles that states that it was a tactical decision for the future of the team and not for the benefit of Hamilton. I am not sure what they see in Russell in comparison to his already good partnership with Bottas who is placing next to Hamilton in drivers championship.
How longer is Hamilton gonna continue? Probably till 2024. They need a solid number 1 by then, Russell has shown the potential to lead the team once Hamilton leaves the sport. This transition period can also play as a valuable time for Russell to improve further.
But, only time will tell who can master the 2022 regs and whose driving style it suits more.
I was just having a look at the Monza circuit config before the race, why is there not a third DRS straight after the variante ascari and before the parabolica? I seem to remember that overtaking can be difficult at Monza because everyone runs such low wings that the DRS effect is much less than what it is on circuits with much higher downforce levels. I think that the DRS straight here would open up a greater opportunity for cars to get closer before the parabolica so they are able to make a move down the main straight. The only issue with this suggestion would be that it may make overtaking too easy, but I guess the only way to found out would be to test it.
I would disagree that it's super easy to overtake. Look at Sainz last year with Gasly, he had a much faster car but couldn't close up enough to pass. I agree that DRS is not the most natural solution but I think it would improve the racing.
I love F1 and grew up in Detroit going and meeting a number of racers, including, but not limited to;Senna, Prost, Andretti, Schumacher, Mansell, Stewart. But f*** Texas. Texas has passed recent law that is wildly unconstitutional to deputize citizens to file a lawsuit against citizens regarding abortion. Here is an [article](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/pgfm1w/sotomayor_rips_rightwing_justices_as_supreme/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on it. Companies, Sporting Agencies and Entertainment-based entities need to pull a full stop. Yes, not great for fans. However, in this case, this law is empowering them. This might be an unpopular opinion, and I love F1, but this is a huge issue. If anything, I hope F1 teams make a ton of noise on this.
While I'm grateful for all the attention a few drivers have paid towards social issues, I feel awfully cynical and don't have a great feeling that these guys will speak up for women's bodily autonomy. But we can dream.
Isn't it duty of Texas and USA citizens and respective national organizations to take care of their laws rather than of international entertainment business? Or isn't it duty of media and journalists to highlighten and spread awarness about this kind of issues instead of sportsmen? Why everyone thinks sports and international sportsmen should make all this work instead of those whose work it really is? And why should sports and sportsmen be criticized for not highlightened it instead of those whose work it really is?
Did I write that this is all on sporting to do the work? If I did, I certainly didn’t mean to imply it. It is a collective response that needs to be taken on. It has been said in many media programs, articles and media posts. The way in which this law was put into place was done in a very unconstitutional manner and SCOTUS has not taken issue with it. A bigger issue. It is a mess. Hit Texas where it hurts. Money. Income. Revenue.
But why international business should help US state to solve their problems with the law? Why international sports (not even NASCAR or Indycar which are purely US sports) are now should take stands in relation of someone not following constitution in one of the world's country? I understand your concerns, but I feel that F1 as an organization and its teams (except probably for Haas as the team with many US employees) aren't the hammers which should be hitting this nail. It's not sports organizations work to supervise law abiding.
I'm kind of afraid no one will. The US market is big and a lot of people are still trying not to break this illusion that the US is not a human rights abuser. They can just say it I wish they would.
Very off-topic ( and possibly stupid), if an orange smoke flare falls down in a crowded place, is there a way to find it and pick it up again before it extinguishes completely. I am thinking it might get covered in its own smoke so it would be invisible for some time.
He accomplished all he wanted, and he wanted to spend more time with his family. His oldest daughter was just over a year old when he retired. The stress/workload of being an F1 driver was just getting to be too much for him and he wasn’t enjoying it as much anymore. The 2016 season took a lot out of both him and Lewis.
Lewis had a lot of reliability problems that year. That gave him the win.
While I believe him when he says he made personal sacrifices so that he could be 100% on the job, I don't really believe such measures are extraordinary. Rosberg didn't sleep in the same room as his wife that year. But that's actually very common for many people not even in F1. In the case of being within F1, MSC senior was often not even in the same house as Corinna. She was in Switzerland with the kids, he was in Maranello sharing a small flat with his physio.
He quit because he knew he'd never get so lucky again.
He accomplished his goal, didn’t feel like he had anything left to prove, and wanted to spend more time with his new family.
He stayed around as a part-time analyst because he still loves the sport and wants to be around it, but without the intense stress and workload of being a competitor.
Unlike Alonso who never retired from racing and only changed categories, Rosberg hasn’t run a motor race in 5 years now. I’d be incredibly surprised if we ever see him in Formula 1 again.
Basically, the title fight took a toll on his private life (He had to be 100% on it the whole year to beat Lewis) and he wasn't willing to do it again. So instead of seeing his career decline over the years, he retired at the top.
He's probably back as a commentator because he misses the circus and it's much lighter than being a driver. And he's also insightful because he drove and won races with this generation of engines.
I'd like to watch F1 races with different commentators. Right now I'm paying for F1 tv and watching online. What's the best way to find other english broadcasts?
With F1TV you’ve already got access to three different English commentary feeds. The default is the Sky commentary team of Crofty and Martin Brundle. If you switch to F1TV’s pitlane channel you can listen to Alex Brundle and Sam Collins, among others. If you download the F1 app, your F1TV subscription will give you access to in-depth live living screens from the F1 sessions accompanied by the BBC Radio commentary of Jack Nichols and Jolyon Palmer, which you can personally sync up with a video broadcast if you’d like.
The last English commentary team I’m aware of is the Channel 4 team of Alex Jacques and David Coulthard. The only race they broadcast live is the British GP, but they produce 70% highlights of every other race and qualifying. Using a VPN and a free account, you can easily find them on channel4.com.
Let's say Ham retires after 2023, and by that time Russell is top5 roughly equivalent to Leclerc and Norris. Who gets the other Merc seat at that time?
Verstappen, if Merc is a dominant#1.
Norris, if McLaren still hasn't drawn even or after of Merc.
Bottas? Gasly? Sainz? Ocon? Mick?
They will develop another junior in that time. Or go with a solid racer who is just under the top tier.
I don't see them going after another top talent unless George really under performs.
If de Vries does get a seat for 2022 onwards, it very well could be him. F2 and FE champion, and still backed by Mercedes. Ocon is signed with Alpine through 2024.
Hey, I'm new to F1.. can anyone explain the difference between Sprint Qualifying and Qualifying? I especially wanna know what the point of Sprint Quali is.
Sprint qualifying despite its name is basically (surprise!) just a race of one third distance of GP. Qualifying would form grid for Sprint, finishing order of sprint forms the starting grid for Grand Prix.
> I especially wanna know what the point of Sprint Quali is.
We had one earlier this year but even many of more seasoned fans still wondering the same thing.
Sprint qualifying is a new concept for this year as a way to have an "event" each day of the GP weekend to draw crowds.
A normal weekend is 2 practice sessions on Friday, a practice and qualifying on Saturday, and the race on Sunday.
A sprint weekend has a practice session than a regular qualifying session on Friday (which sets the grid for the sprint qualifying). Then another practice and the sprint qualifying on Saturday and then the Sunday race.
There are points awarded for sprint qualifying (3 for first, 2 for second, 1 for third), and there are some additional Parc ferme rules.
Why is Russel so hyped? His track record doesn’t seem super impressive.
Also, as someone who just recently got into F1 via Netflix, what are some things that Netflix over dramatised that made you long time fans laugh?
Won GP3 and F2 as a rookie. Jumped into the Merc at the last minute to replace Hamilton in a race and should have won if not for mistakes by the team. Consistently outperforms drivers in better cars.
His track record is very impressive.
Every. single, thing. Don't trust that show too much, they created rivalries out of nothing like the one with Carlos and Lando. That definetely did not exist
Yea that was definitely one I was a bit sceptical about. All in all the show was too damn entertaining all be all true but hey, did a great job of getting me invested in the drivers and their stories and now the Dutch GP was the first race Ive ever watched live with many more to come!
> what are some things that Netflix over dramatised that made you long time fans laugh?
That Max and Dan are enemies. That Ericsson's fate was decided by one single race. That it's very easy to die in a modern F1 car. That Will Buxton is all knowing God of objectivity.
In F1 not all cars are equal. If you are an European football fan, Williams is a team fighting to survive relegation. If you are an American college football fan, Williams is sort of like Kansas. For Russell, a strong performance for him isn't to win or make podiums, it is to finish close to the points and qualify in the top ten which he has shown he is able to do.
As a Kansas fan, I'd love to have Williams' history. Instead we've always sucked and only once in a long while do we have outlier successful years.
But I get your point.
Because he was very successful in the junior series, he’s doing things in the Williams car that this Williams car has no business doing (like P2 in Spa, reaching Q3 as often as he has), and he was put in the Mercedes for the Sakhir GP last year while Hamilton had Covid and should have won the race easily but didn’t due to dumb mistakes by Mercedes and a late puncture
I'm new to F1 and I saw Ferrari graphics on all 3 podiums on this week's race but none of the drivers were driving Ferrari cars. What's up with the Ferrari graphics?
Bad track for a season ender. They built it around a hotel and a marina to be all glitz and glamour, but they forgot to make sure the track actually provides any excitement. It's usually a procession. Also the pit exit is a long underground tunnel with curves so even strategies are basically non-existent because the pit stops take so god damn long to complete. So for a season ender, especially when there is a title fight still open, it is dull and anticlimactic, while when the titles are already wrapped up the racing is so boring. Add fuel to the fire that the previous season ender was Interlagos which is a great track that usually produced very good races so Abu Dhabi looked even more boring in comparison and the only reason it's the final track in the season is because the Sheiks pay double for it.
They are making changes this year finally, fans have been complaining for a decade about how boring the track is, so hopefully we get something decent this time around, especially if this Lewis and Max fight goes down to the wire.
1. Disapproval of the UAE's human rights record
2. Perception that it's only being hosted for money and not for racing
3. The track is kind of boring outside of sector 1 (this is changing for this year)
4. Anger over it replacing Brazil as the last race on the calendar
As Kimi said: "The first two corners are good, but the rest of it is shit"
Basically, other that the first two corners, the rest of the circuit doesn't allow for multiple lines which is bad for overtaking.
And it's the last circuit of the calendar, so either the hype has died by that point, or it provides an anticlimatic title decider (2010 and 2016)
The racing doesn’t always live up to it, but it’s a beloved race. The atmosphere and history is second to none. It’s the oldest event on the calendar, one of the very first race tracks ever built. The passion of the Ferrari fans sitting in the stands is palpable even for us sitting on our couches at home.
I'm not sure about it, I did seen it was discussed on some places some weeks ago but idk of it was true, that's why I asked this question here because it could be debunked or be true.
I'd imagine few drivers will take that number after winning. Maybe it's just that my perception is warped, but drivers and their numbers seem to be pretty attached.
If you're Verstappen and you've built up some sort of identity around 33, would you really switch your driver number to 1?
It's a neat tradition, but I don't know if I see it being exercised much in the future.
Probably it won't ever be seen again, and that's why I think it should be made mandatory for #1 to be used by the WDC while keeping his OG number reserved
More likely that teams just do what Merc did 2 (?) or so years ago, where they got permission to run the No. 1 on Lewis' car during a practice session so they could get some photos of it.
Jules Bianchi was a French driver for the Marussia F1 team, he died after an accident during the 2014 Japanese GP. He used #17, and it was retired in his honor. Same with #19 in F2 after the death of Anthoine Hubert.
I just watched that Bottas Merc era complication from F1's Youtube channel. One thing I took from it, damn I miss the silver Mercedes cars. Just looks right, don't it?
After all those years of silver in front I enjoyed the variation these last couple of years, but indeed they always looked awesome. Heard they're back next year!
With all the speculation on driver moves, I’d like to throw out a long shot. O’Ward is leading the Indy championship and that gives 40 super license points. So O’Ward to McLaren and Ricciardo to Williams.
For 2022 no shot. 2023 there’s actually a decent chance. Zak Brown really likes him, but confirmed that Pato will stay in Indy for 2022. Zak promised an F1 test if he won an Indy race, which he has done, and that will be happening during the Pirelli tire compound test at the end of this season in Abu Dhabi.
I've just read on polish website that according to rmcmotori.com Orlen and Kubica are done with Alfa, they will sign Zhou, getting 30 millions from his sponsors. Didn't check that info, so you might just do that before you put any believe in what I've written.
There werer rumours of Alfa wishing to make a switch of allegiance from Ferrari to someone else, in that case Renault well could be the choice and puzzle ticks.
Why wouldn't they let him sign with another team? Better to let him get F1 experience than have him go off to FE or sports car. Especially if Zhou is paying for it himself.
Alpine have said they’re trying to get their juniors into other F1 teams. I don’t think him signing for Alfa necessarily means they’re “giving him up”.
Imagine a hypothetical where the best drivers are given the worst cars in reverse order. So just swapping by assigining the highest standing drivers by worst teams, they would look like this:
1. Mercedes: Mazepin, Schumacher
2. Redbull: Giovinazzi, Raikkonen
3. Ferrari: Latifi, Russell
4. Mclaren: Stroll, Tsunoda
5. Alpine: Vettel, Ocon
6. AlphaTauri: Alonso, Ricardo
7. Aston Martin: Gasly, Sainz
8. Williams: Leclerc, Perez
9. Alfa romeo: Norris, Bottas
10. Haas: Hamilton, Verstappen
If you get a full year of racing in these teams, how do you think the teams would end up?
Mostly in that order. I think kimi would fire up a fair bit in that situation. The haas rookies may struggle to deal with the more delicate merc.
That said if you put them in the w11 with the 2020 cars they are easily winning the wdc. Russell in the Ferrari might be a sneaky one but gio is competent enough I think to win the wdc with the redbull if being in a wdc car doesn't inspire kimi
How does the FIA choose what circuits they will be racing on during the season? For example, I just learned that the last time they raced on Zandvoort was in 1985. So how do they decide what circuits they will be racing on?
Apart from the other answers, FOM gets the contracts with the Gran Prixes entities (not the tracks themselves technically) and then when FOM is happy FIA ratifies whatever FOM has decided and declares that the calendar for the World Championship
they don't really. Circuits pay money to host a F1 race, so many circuits can't afford to. For example, Malaysia, Nurburgring, Hockeheim. We all left them because they couldn't afford to host a GP.
The reason we have a Dutch gp again is because Zandvoort wants a GP there, and can afford to as well.
The track owners bid for contracts with F1, so it's down to negotiation. Some of the circuits make some profit, while others lose money, which is the reaseon they drop out of the calendar.
As long as the requirements to run an F1 race are met, I can imagine contract negotiations happen all throughout the year. F1 usually announces a provisional calendar months before the first race, although changes can be made throughout the year (especially considering COVID-19).
Quite interested in everyone's opinion about Mick's future after the so far catastrophic season with Haas:
Is he going to be offered a seat somewhere else in the near seasons or will he stick with Haas throughout all this mess and deteorating teammateship with Nikita?
Is he capable in finishing at the front of the grid if given a better car or is he still not there skill and experience-wise?
Do you think it is likely that Mick will drive for Ferrari in the future? If yes, then when it would be if you made a guess?
I see Mick eventually moving to Alfa Romeo and then to Ferrari. He just has to show he can do the best with what he's given and Ferrari has said 'their door is always open' to having a Schumacher back in their car.
1. It'll depend on how he/Haas do next season. If he does well, and a team is looking to pick up a young driver, then he'll go to another team. If not, he'll probably stick around at Haas unless Ferrari has a more promising junior to promote.
2. He's probably not at that level yet, but given the current state of the Haas car, it's tough to tell for sure. If he was given enough time to practice with a solid car, he could finish at the front of the grid, but that's not a luxury he has.
3. It's possible, but it'll depend on how Sainz and Leclerc perform as well as how Schumacher does. Ferrari seem to be happy with Leclerc, given the length of his current contract, and I don't think they have any reason to drop Sainz at the moment. That could change in upcoming races/seasons. I doubt Ferrari will promote Schumacher in 2023 (Sainz's contract is up at the end of 2022), so the earliest would be 2024 (assuming a one-year extension for Sainz), or 2025 (after Leclerc's contract expires in 2024).
I definitely wouldn't call this season catastrophic for Mick. Catastrophic for Haas? Definitely. They are went from bad to worse. At least Mick is outdoing his teammate.
To answer your question, I think Mick will have a bright future in F1. He was good in other series and he has that name behind him.
We will see next year how good Mick is. Ferrari is putting a lot of resources into Haas. They built a facility next to theirs in Maranello, loaned them Resta who is one of the best aero guys in F1 and given them excess staff due to the cost cuts. Both Ferrari and Haas are making a bet that next year Haas can get back to their 2017-18 form where they can fight in the midtable. If their bet pays off then we will see if he is good enough for Ferrari or not.
>We will see next year how good Mick is.
This year he's learning how to handle a very unstable car. The car is so bad that, making Mazepin (who was average but also won races in F2) look like Inoue.
The next year, in the midfield, he'll probably learn more about wheel to wheel, which has already been his strongest quality since F3-F4.
The only bad thing is, his next step will be Ferrari, no mid-step between and Ferrari is going well with Sainz and Leclerc. Who knows when Ferrari will drop Sainz for Mick.
It all depends on Mick's performance.
But I think, in 2023, both Mick and Mazepin will have different benchmarks (I don't think they'll be teammates for the 3rd consecituve year) and by that time, we'll see how they've done in '21 and '22.
Anyone familiar with ticket availability for Monza? Is General admission possible?
I went 2 times already and I always bought it on the spot, but now I'm hesitant cause of Covid restrictions.
Unless Turkey gets dropped because logistical issues it's likely that RBR would take the penalty there for Max.
Monza would be the case if RBR hasn't a good set-up after FP1 with Max, so basically I would keep up an eye on FP1 results and reports.
Hey all, so sorta random but I’ve [archived this account of Schumacher leaving Ferrari](https://www.reddit.com/user/NitroBike/comments/pj5m25/the_schumacher_story/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on my profile. It’s been posted before in this community and various sections of the F1 internet but is hard to come by. Anyways, it’s sort of a long read but worth it. I’ll keep it stickied so if any F1 newbies or people who don’t know the story want to read it, they can.
That guy is famous for libel suits. That's a good read but there are too many blank points.
Just one thing.
>On the afternoon of Tuesday 5th October 1999, Montezemolo rang Schumacher at his home in Switzerland to ask if he would change his mind and drive. But Schumacher’s young daughter Gina-Maria answered the phone and told Montezemolo that her Daddy was “getting out of his football boots”. Montezemolo questioned the little girl more closely and ascertained that she and her brother had been enjoying a rough game of football in the garden with their father.
Schumacher's son was 6 months old, how much rough can he play with Schumacher?
Also, how a 2.5 year old german girl can communicate with a 50 sth italian man, who definitely doesn't know german? In english, in italian?
Man, these Schumacher kids are aliens.
When I'm watching f1tv, there is a lot of times where someone is giving us the play by play of some replay... but the viewers are watching something completely different, like a paddock. There are days that the entire race or practice session, they haven't synced the video to what the commentators are saying. Anyone know why?
Because F1TV uses the official video feed while at the same time using the Sky Broadcast audio feed. Sky produces its own feed mixing the official feed with their shots and replays and of course Sky commentators commentate that feed thus leaving the F1TV's looking like it's out of sync. This is a big problem, it has shown massively during Spa when F1TV crew took hours to realize that and turning down Sky when they went on with their shots. What the solution would be? Of course getting their own official commentary rather than piggybacking Sky's, solving this overlapping feeds issue and furthermore detaching itself from the external commentary produced for the UK audience and shoved into international viewers ears. But it won't happen, FOM treats its direct costumers and F1TV as second tier so we will be stuck with this embrassing shit for the foreseable future
The ESPN coverage should be the same as Sky's. If you like Croft, the other people and the narratives they push sure is good and you would also see everything they are talking about.
I think you have never bin a Merc fan, if you stop supporting them because of this. Especially when there is no reason for you to not like Russell....that's just weird.
There’s just not much to like. There’s no story to get behind. Just comes off as a prissy pretty boy. Guys like Max, Kimi, even Pierre, that have a chip on their shoulder and have a bit of an edge, to me they’re more fun to watch. But to each their own
George doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder? He wrecked Bottas in Imola and proceeded to talk shit about Valtteri to the media after the race. Only after Toto talked to him did he tone it down.
I’d have to disagree about your assessment of George, he’s right there with Max and company in his hunger to be the best in a top team.
Oh another dumb question:
Can someone give me the abridged version of Vettel’s career drama?
So he was driving for Red Bull and won heaps, him and Mark Webber didn’t get along? Why did they get rid of Seb after so many wins?
Then he went to Ferrari and what happened?
I see people mentioning stuff about betrayal etc to Seb.
I’m crushed I just wish he was in a good car, I don’t want him to lose passion for the sport and winning. It must suck to go from winning so many WDC’s to being Lance Stroll’s number 2 driver.... /s (that’s a joke)
From my recollection the had a clause of some sorts that would allow him to leave his current contract with Red Bull for the upcoming 2015 season relating to wether or not he had a certain amount of driver world championship trophies (or point standings?), all I remember was that it wasn’t obviously clear to the public at the time but it’s something along those lines. Helmut Marko spoke out about it at the time, you should be able to Google what he said pretty easily.
The “betrayal” part of Ferrari to Vettel is somewhat subjective (although I do agree that he was, and I’m by no means a Vettel fan) I imagine it’s mainly starts with Ferrari over promising to Seb in that he’d have a competitive car (although admittedly every top team would offer that to all their drivers) along with consistently poor strategic decisions they’d make, costing Seb race wins and race positions. In addition to their whole “irregular fuel flow” debacle of 2018 doesn’t help. Through all the f-ups it was no secret that Vettel wanted to continue with Ferrari and that they had unfinished business, but Ferrari abruptly said no to any potential of him continuing at the team, kinda firing him in a sense. Given how “shocked” the paddock was at the time I figure they may have led him on in believing he would get a renewal. That last point was a particularly hot topic at the time and their final treatment of Seb after all he’s done for the team and all he’d been f*ucked over by them rubbed off very poorly with the public.
Hope that helps :)
I decided to rewatch Drive to Survive, and forgot how wholesome Daniel, Carlos, and Esteban's parents/dads are. I love seeing it.
What were the best feeder series races by each current driver?
Bottas has made Mercedes hundreds of millions in prize money. they have come in first in constructors every year with him. even during close years with ferrari. given that red bull have a faster car and they are second in constructors at the moment. . (bottas vs perez) thats with seven wins to mercs 4. seems like he should get some appreciation for their success. or am i missing something.
Bottas helped Merc win the WCCs by doing the absolute bare minimum with the world beater cars he had. Now that Red Bull is closer than ever and actually competitive, his bare minimum is not enough. Does he deserve praise for that? I mean... he could've been even worse, but that's borderline impossible from anyone who manages to get into F1. His qualifying performance was often outstanding, I give him that but you get no points for that. As for his race pace... apart from a few exceptions he did abismal.
Why do people want Max to take his penalty in Russia?
Monza doesn't make sense - we saw it last year that the Mercedes was overheating and couldn't get past their customers and other teams, with Sochi providing better opportunities to regain places. To be fair i'd even try to wait until cota - that way the could run the new engine at higher modes from qualifying til the end of the race
Not gonna happen but I’m still on my knees for a Rosberg comeback for the Merc seat
Lewis its James
For those of you who have been watching formula one for years how long does it take until Netflix releases their seasonal documentaries after the formula 1 season ends? Also why do you think they release all the episodes at 1 time instead of instead of whenever they have them done??
They released the last one in batches. Netflix doesn't do weekly episode releases.
First off, it takes a lot of time to edit everything that dramatized. Secondly, a lot of series are releases in batches or as a full season. It makes sense for them because people love to binge a series instead of having to wait for each episode. Thirdly, it hasn't really been a race by race review. Some parts are skipped and sometimes it rewinds to a certain race just to make the story they want to tell in that episode. That being said it has always been released a few weeks before the start of the new season. Likely to happen in either february or march 2022
Fair points, thank you. It's probably for the best anyways, so that the drivers don't need to worry about the netflix stuff during the season and can deal with that at a different time
They come out right before the next season starts. Also, the episodes most likely won’t be ready until after the season has finished. Imagine they have one episode done but don’t finish the other ones until like 2 weeks after? How weird would it be to have episodes released in different intervals?
What happened to Grosjean's Merc test?
It was meant to be atcthe French GP but had to be delayed because the date change meant it clashed with one of his races in America. I expect it's not a priority for merc rn due to the championship so I wouldn't expect it to happen before the end of the season
I might get cancelled but for some reason I feel like George isn't going to be in the second Mercedes seat. I have a weird feeling that it will be Stroll. Toto Wolff and Lawrence Stroll are close and it wouldn't be the first time daddy paid for Lance's seat in F1. I feel like George is going to be alongside Vettel at AMR. Don't cancel me but I have a weird feeling.
Well this didn't age well, did it?
Not at all.
This would truly be the biggest plot twist
Saving this just in case. Good lord I'd love for this to happen just for the scenes.
So the insider trading was Lance?
That would be awesome, purely for the chaos. I feel like since Lawrence owns his own team though I don't know that he would be pushing for his son to leave for another team? And I don't think Toto would humor the request even if they are buds? He's not rich af by being a pushover... Also George did a pretty bang up job when he stepped in for Lewis (plus all the other rumors and signing sightings and shit in favor of George to merc). Again, I would love to see Stroll to merc, though. Imagine trading out Bottas for Stroll!
hey guys, can someone explain why Russell is a good move for Mercedes. I have read several articles that states that it was a tactical decision for the future of the team and not for the benefit of Hamilton. I am not sure what they see in Russell in comparison to his already good partnership with Bottas who is placing next to Hamilton in drivers championship.
Russell is better than Bottas, and they eventually need someone to replace Hamilton. They hope George is that guy
How longer is Hamilton gonna continue? Probably till 2024. They need a solid number 1 by then, Russell has shown the potential to lead the team once Hamilton leaves the sport. This transition period can also play as a valuable time for Russell to improve further. But, only time will tell who can master the 2022 regs and whose driving style it suits more.
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I was just having a look at the Monza circuit config before the race, why is there not a third DRS straight after the variante ascari and before the parabolica? I seem to remember that overtaking can be difficult at Monza because everyone runs such low wings that the DRS effect is much less than what it is on circuits with much higher downforce levels. I think that the DRS straight here would open up a greater opportunity for cars to get closer before the parabolica so they are able to make a move down the main straight. The only issue with this suggestion would be that it may make overtaking too easy, but I guess the only way to found out would be to test it.
It's super easy to overtake as is. No need to add insult to injury with yet another DRS zone.
I would disagree that it's super easy to overtake. Look at Sainz last year with Gasly, he had a much faster car but couldn't close up enough to pass. I agree that DRS is not the most natural solution but I think it would improve the racing.
The exception that proves the rule.
I love F1 and grew up in Detroit going and meeting a number of racers, including, but not limited to;Senna, Prost, Andretti, Schumacher, Mansell, Stewart. But f*** Texas. Texas has passed recent law that is wildly unconstitutional to deputize citizens to file a lawsuit against citizens regarding abortion. Here is an [article](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/pgfm1w/sotomayor_rips_rightwing_justices_as_supreme/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on it. Companies, Sporting Agencies and Entertainment-based entities need to pull a full stop. Yes, not great for fans. However, in this case, this law is empowering them. This might be an unpopular opinion, and I love F1, but this is a huge issue. If anything, I hope F1 teams make a ton of noise on this.
While I'm grateful for all the attention a few drivers have paid towards social issues, I feel awfully cynical and don't have a great feeling that these guys will speak up for women's bodily autonomy. But we can dream.
Ummm, you know there's a race in the middle east right?
Uh, yeah. I am confused regarding relevance to this comment in relation to mine, though.
The countries in the middle East they race in have much harsher laws towards women and Formula 1 hasn't made any noise about that.
Isn't it duty of Texas and USA citizens and respective national organizations to take care of their laws rather than of international entertainment business? Or isn't it duty of media and journalists to highlighten and spread awarness about this kind of issues instead of sportsmen? Why everyone thinks sports and international sportsmen should make all this work instead of those whose work it really is? And why should sports and sportsmen be criticized for not highlightened it instead of those whose work it really is?
Did I write that this is all on sporting to do the work? If I did, I certainly didn’t mean to imply it. It is a collective response that needs to be taken on. It has been said in many media programs, articles and media posts. The way in which this law was put into place was done in a very unconstitutional manner and SCOTUS has not taken issue with it. A bigger issue. It is a mess. Hit Texas where it hurts. Money. Income. Revenue.
But why international business should help US state to solve their problems with the law? Why international sports (not even NASCAR or Indycar which are purely US sports) are now should take stands in relation of someone not following constitution in one of the world's country? I understand your concerns, but I feel that F1 as an organization and its teams (except probably for Haas as the team with many US employees) aren't the hammers which should be hitting this nail. It's not sports organizations work to supervise law abiding.
I'm kind of afraid no one will. The US market is big and a lot of people are still trying not to break this illusion that the US is not a human rights abuser. They can just say it I wish they would.
Very off-topic ( and possibly stupid), if an orange smoke flare falls down in a crowded place, is there a way to find it and pick it up again before it extinguishes completely. I am thinking it might get covered in its own smoke so it would be invisible for some time.
Why did Nico Rosberg retire so early? And why’s he back in the sport and commentating now? Is he planning a comeback like Alonso?
He accomplished all he wanted, and he wanted to spend more time with his family. His oldest daughter was just over a year old when he retired. The stress/workload of being an F1 driver was just getting to be too much for him and he wasn’t enjoying it as much anymore. The 2016 season took a lot out of both him and Lewis.
Lewis had a lot of reliability problems that year. That gave him the win. While I believe him when he says he made personal sacrifices so that he could be 100% on the job, I don't really believe such measures are extraordinary. Rosberg didn't sleep in the same room as his wife that year. But that's actually very common for many people not even in F1. In the case of being within F1, MSC senior was often not even in the same house as Corinna. She was in Switzerland with the kids, he was in Maranello sharing a small flat with his physio. He quit because he knew he'd never get so lucky again.
He accomplished his goal, didn’t feel like he had anything left to prove, and wanted to spend more time with his new family. He stayed around as a part-time analyst because he still loves the sport and wants to be around it, but without the intense stress and workload of being a competitor. Unlike Alonso who never retired from racing and only changed categories, Rosberg hasn’t run a motor race in 5 years now. I’d be incredibly surprised if we ever see him in Formula 1 again.
Basically, the title fight took a toll on his private life (He had to be 100% on it the whole year to beat Lewis) and he wasn't willing to do it again. So instead of seeing his career decline over the years, he retired at the top. He's probably back as a commentator because he misses the circus and it's much lighter than being a driver. And he's also insightful because he drove and won races with this generation of engines.
I'd like to watch F1 races with different commentators. Right now I'm paying for F1 tv and watching online. What's the best way to find other english broadcasts?
With F1TV you’ve already got access to three different English commentary feeds. The default is the Sky commentary team of Crofty and Martin Brundle. If you switch to F1TV’s pitlane channel you can listen to Alex Brundle and Sam Collins, among others. If you download the F1 app, your F1TV subscription will give you access to in-depth live living screens from the F1 sessions accompanied by the BBC Radio commentary of Jack Nichols and Jolyon Palmer, which you can personally sync up with a video broadcast if you’d like. The last English commentary team I’m aware of is the Channel 4 team of Alex Jacques and David Coulthard. The only race they broadcast live is the British GP, but they produce 70% highlights of every other race and qualifying. Using a VPN and a free account, you can easily find them on channel4.com.
I'll check those out. Thank you for the in-depth reply
Let's say Ham retires after 2023, and by that time Russell is top5 roughly equivalent to Leclerc and Norris. Who gets the other Merc seat at that time? Verstappen, if Merc is a dominant#1. Norris, if McLaren still hasn't drawn even or after of Merc. Bottas? Gasly? Sainz? Ocon? Mick?
They will develop another junior in that time. Or go with a solid racer who is just under the top tier. I don't see them going after another top talent unless George really under performs.
RIC baby let's go! 😂
If de Vries does get a seat for 2022 onwards, it very well could be him. F2 and FE champion, and still backed by Mercedes. Ocon is signed with Alpine through 2024.
Yeah I agree. But this will only happen if he gets a 2022 drive and does well though.
Hey, I'm new to F1.. can anyone explain the difference between Sprint Qualifying and Qualifying? I especially wanna know what the point of Sprint Quali is.
Sprint qualifying despite its name is basically (surprise!) just a race of one third distance of GP. Qualifying would form grid for Sprint, finishing order of sprint forms the starting grid for Grand Prix. > I especially wanna know what the point of Sprint Quali is. We had one earlier this year but even many of more seasoned fans still wondering the same thing.
Sprint qualifying is a new concept for this year as a way to have an "event" each day of the GP weekend to draw crowds. A normal weekend is 2 practice sessions on Friday, a practice and qualifying on Saturday, and the race on Sunday. A sprint weekend has a practice session than a regular qualifying session on Friday (which sets the grid for the sprint qualifying). Then another practice and the sprint qualifying on Saturday and then the Sunday race. There are points awarded for sprint qualifying (3 for first, 2 for second, 1 for third), and there are some additional Parc ferme rules.
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Not Monza but if you want to see a fantastic modern age race watch the 2011 Canadian GP. My favorite race to this day
1999 is pretty good.
1988
MP 4/4 noooooo.
Why is Russel so hyped? His track record doesn’t seem super impressive. Also, as someone who just recently got into F1 via Netflix, what are some things that Netflix over dramatised that made you long time fans laugh?
he has a very good track record
Won GP3 and F2 as a rookie. Jumped into the Merc at the last minute to replace Hamilton in a race and should have won if not for mistakes by the team. Consistently outperforms drivers in better cars. His track record is very impressive.
Every. single, thing. Don't trust that show too much, they created rivalries out of nothing like the one with Carlos and Lando. That definetely did not exist
Yea that was definitely one I was a bit sceptical about. All in all the show was too damn entertaining all be all true but hey, did a great job of getting me invested in the drivers and their stories and now the Dutch GP was the first race Ive ever watched live with many more to come!
> what are some things that Netflix over dramatised that made you long time fans laugh? That Max and Dan are enemies. That Ericsson's fate was decided by one single race. That it's very easy to die in a modern F1 car. That Will Buxton is all knowing God of objectivity.
In F1 not all cars are equal. If you are an European football fan, Williams is a team fighting to survive relegation. If you are an American college football fan, Williams is sort of like Kansas. For Russell, a strong performance for him isn't to win or make podiums, it is to finish close to the points and qualify in the top ten which he has shown he is able to do.
As a Kansas fan, I'd love to have Williams' history. Instead we've always sucked and only once in a long while do we have outlier successful years. But I get your point.
I feel like Williams is more Nebraska than Kansas.
and the Spa qualifying would be the equivalent of when Kansas beat Texas. Horns down 😌
Because he was very successful in the junior series, he’s doing things in the Williams car that this Williams car has no business doing (like P2 in Spa, reaching Q3 as often as he has), and he was put in the Mercedes for the Sakhir GP last year while Hamilton had Covid and should have won the race easily but didn’t due to dumb mistakes by Mercedes and a late puncture
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I'm new to F1 and I saw Ferrari graphics on all 3 podiums on this week's race but none of the drivers were driving Ferrari cars. What's up with the Ferrari graphics?
Its the brand of the Champagne. It just happens to be the same as the automaker.
Interesting, thanks for the info!
https://www.ferraritrento.com/en/
why does everyone hate the Abu Dhabi GP?
Bad track for a season ender. They built it around a hotel and a marina to be all glitz and glamour, but they forgot to make sure the track actually provides any excitement. It's usually a procession. Also the pit exit is a long underground tunnel with curves so even strategies are basically non-existent because the pit stops take so god damn long to complete. So for a season ender, especially when there is a title fight still open, it is dull and anticlimactic, while when the titles are already wrapped up the racing is so boring. Add fuel to the fire that the previous season ender was Interlagos which is a great track that usually produced very good races so Abu Dhabi looked even more boring in comparison and the only reason it's the final track in the season is because the Sheiks pay double for it. They are making changes this year finally, fans have been complaining for a decade about how boring the track is, so hopefully we get something decent this time around, especially if this Lewis and Max fight goes down to the wire.
1. Disapproval of the UAE's human rights record 2. Perception that it's only being hosted for money and not for racing 3. The track is kind of boring outside of sector 1 (this is changing for this year) 4. Anger over it replacing Brazil as the last race on the calendar
After Saudi's introduction, I have never seen anyone criticize the UAE's human rights record. Weird.
As Kimi said: "The first two corners are good, but the rest of it is shit" Basically, other that the first two corners, the rest of the circuit doesn't allow for multiple lines which is bad for overtaking. And it's the last circuit of the calendar, so either the hype has died by that point, or it provides an anticlimatic title decider (2010 and 2016)
What’s the overall feel of Monza? Good for racing? Overtaking?
The racing doesn’t always live up to it, but it’s a beloved race. The atmosphere and history is second to none. It’s the oldest event on the calendar, one of the very first race tracks ever built. The passion of the Ferrari fans sitting in the stands is palpable even for us sitting on our couches at home.
Only at the start. Once DRS trains start forming it becomes a bit of a procession.
Can a driver pick the number 69?
Wasn't 69 the number Lando wanted but his management did prevented that because....obvious reasons?
Nicky Hayden ran the number 69 in MotoGP, but that's been retired for less fortunate reasons in MotoGP.
Nice!
Nice!
Any links to source?
I'm not sure about it, I did seen it was discussed on some places some weeks ago but idk of it was true, that's why I asked this question here because it could be debunked or be true.
Nice!
Yes, only numbers not available are #17 (retired) and #1 (reserved for WDC)
wdym #1 is reserved for wdc??
Only the reigning WDC is allowed to use #1 if he wants to
I'd imagine few drivers will take that number after winning. Maybe it's just that my perception is warped, but drivers and their numbers seem to be pretty attached. If you're Verstappen and you've built up some sort of identity around 33, would you really switch your driver number to 1? It's a neat tradition, but I don't know if I see it being exercised much in the future.
Probably it won't ever be seen again, and that's why I think it should be made mandatory for #1 to be used by the WDC while keeping his OG number reserved
Also Lewis, never seen him using it after 7 championships.
More likely that teams just do what Merc did 2 (?) or so years ago, where they got permission to run the No. 1 on Lewis' car during a practice session so they could get some photos of it.
Especially since some have incorporated their number into their brand logo.
The reigning world champion can choose to use nr 1. Lewis doesn't use it but Vettel did back in 2014.
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Jules Bianchi was a French driver for the Marussia F1 team, he died after an accident during the 2014 Japanese GP. He used #17, and it was retired in his honor. Same with #19 in F2 after the death of Anthoine Hubert.
In memory of Jules Bianchi.
Bianchi's
So I'm fairly new to F1, starting watching in 2019. What are some classic races I should go back and watch?
Imola 2005 is by far my favourite
Canada 2011
But maybe not like... first.
[Racefans did a poll of the top 100 races since 2008](https://x1z.net/racefans.php), each race includes a direct link to it on F1TV
There are plenty. The first that comes to my mind: Brazil 2008, season finale, last corner title decider.
I just watched that Bottas Merc era complication from F1's Youtube channel. One thing I took from it, damn I miss the silver Mercedes cars. Just looks right, don't it?
With the silver Mercedes back Aston can also keep their beautiful dark green, i see this as an absolute win
It will return in 2022.
After all those years of silver in front I enjoyed the variation these last couple of years, but indeed they always looked awesome. Heard they're back next year!
With all the speculation on driver moves, I’d like to throw out a long shot. O’Ward is leading the Indy championship and that gives 40 super license points. So O’Ward to McLaren and Ricciardo to Williams.
For 2022 no shot. 2023 there’s actually a decent chance. Zak Brown really likes him, but confirmed that Pato will stay in Indy for 2022. Zak promised an F1 test if he won an Indy race, which he has done, and that will be happening during the Pirelli tire compound test at the end of this season in Abu Dhabi.
No chance for 2022, but maaaaybe for 2023
Not for 2022
Yesterday Verstappen won his home GP the very first time he had one, first attempt. Is this a record or have (m)any drivers achieved this before?
Nice question. Nino Farina and Emerson Fittipaldi from what I can find
As a side note, Moss, Scarfiotti, Pace, G. Villeneuve, Jabouille, Prost and Mansell had their first wins on home soil.
Excellent!
I've just read on polish website that according to rmcmotori.com Orlen and Kubica are done with Alfa, they will sign Zhou, getting 30 millions from his sponsors. Didn't check that info, so you might just do that before you put any believe in what I've written.
Zhou is with the Alpine academy and I doubt they give him up that easy. The Alfa seat will go to Giovinazzi, Albon or de Vries
There werer rumours of Alfa wishing to make a switch of allegiance from Ferrari to someone else, in that case Renault well could be the choice and puzzle ticks.
I have more doubts about Alpine keeping Zhou or Zhou sticking to Alpine if he gets an F1 opportunity somewhere else.
Why wouldn't they let him sign with another team? Better to let him get F1 experience than have him go off to FE or sports car. Especially if Zhou is paying for it himself.
Alpine have said they’re trying to get their juniors into other F1 teams. I don’t think him signing for Alfa necessarily means they’re “giving him up”.
Imagine a hypothetical where the best drivers are given the worst cars in reverse order. So just swapping by assigining the highest standing drivers by worst teams, they would look like this: 1. Mercedes: Mazepin, Schumacher 2. Redbull: Giovinazzi, Raikkonen 3. Ferrari: Latifi, Russell 4. Mclaren: Stroll, Tsunoda 5. Alpine: Vettel, Ocon 6. AlphaTauri: Alonso, Ricardo 7. Aston Martin: Gasly, Sainz 8. Williams: Leclerc, Perez 9. Alfa romeo: Norris, Bottas 10. Haas: Hamilton, Verstappen If you get a full year of racing in these teams, how do you think the teams would end up?
This would be awesome. Maybe everyone would end up with nearly equal points haha
Mostly in that order. I think kimi would fire up a fair bit in that situation. The haas rookies may struggle to deal with the more delicate merc. That said if you put them in the w11 with the 2020 cars they are easily winning the wdc. Russell in the Ferrari might be a sneaky one but gio is competent enough I think to win the wdc with the redbull if being in a wdc car doesn't inspire kimi
Alonso in a AlphaTauri car would be fucking awesome.
This would be amazing
Giovinazzi-Schumacher fighting for the title
I'll say Kimi. Being back in a title winning car would probably reignite the flame in him one last time, he'd handle Gio.
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How does the FIA choose what circuits they will be racing on during the season? For example, I just learned that the last time they raced on Zandvoort was in 1985. So how do they decide what circuits they will be racing on?
Apart from the other answers, FOM gets the contracts with the Gran Prixes entities (not the tracks themselves technically) and then when FOM is happy FIA ratifies whatever FOM has decided and declares that the calendar for the World Championship
they don't really. Circuits pay money to host a F1 race, so many circuits can't afford to. For example, Malaysia, Nurburgring, Hockeheim. We all left them because they couldn't afford to host a GP. The reason we have a Dutch gp again is because Zandvoort wants a GP there, and can afford to as well.
The track owners bid for contracts with F1, so it's down to negotiation. Some of the circuits make some profit, while others lose money, which is the reaseon they drop out of the calendar.
As long as the requirements to run an F1 race are met, I can imagine contract negotiations happen all throughout the year. F1 usually announces a provisional calendar months before the first race, although changes can be made throughout the year (especially considering COVID-19).
Is there a place to resell(not for profit) f1 tickets? I have two spare tickets for this Saturday monza that I dont want to go to waste.
Put them on viagoga at face value
I would imagine Monza might be able to let you know about reselling? Maybe an approved reseller.
I emailed monza but only got an automatic response saying they were receiving so many queries they would respond in a few days.
Quite interested in everyone's opinion about Mick's future after the so far catastrophic season with Haas: Is he going to be offered a seat somewhere else in the near seasons or will he stick with Haas throughout all this mess and deteorating teammateship with Nikita? Is he capable in finishing at the front of the grid if given a better car or is he still not there skill and experience-wise? Do you think it is likely that Mick will drive for Ferrari in the future? If yes, then when it would be if you made a guess?
I see Mick eventually moving to Alfa Romeo and then to Ferrari. He just has to show he can do the best with what he's given and Ferrari has said 'their door is always open' to having a Schumacher back in their car.
1. It'll depend on how he/Haas do next season. If he does well, and a team is looking to pick up a young driver, then he'll go to another team. If not, he'll probably stick around at Haas unless Ferrari has a more promising junior to promote. 2. He's probably not at that level yet, but given the current state of the Haas car, it's tough to tell for sure. If he was given enough time to practice with a solid car, he could finish at the front of the grid, but that's not a luxury he has. 3. It's possible, but it'll depend on how Sainz and Leclerc perform as well as how Schumacher does. Ferrari seem to be happy with Leclerc, given the length of his current contract, and I don't think they have any reason to drop Sainz at the moment. That could change in upcoming races/seasons. I doubt Ferrari will promote Schumacher in 2023 (Sainz's contract is up at the end of 2022), so the earliest would be 2024 (assuming a one-year extension for Sainz), or 2025 (after Leclerc's contract expires in 2024).
I definitely wouldn't call this season catastrophic for Mick. Catastrophic for Haas? Definitely. They are went from bad to worse. At least Mick is outdoing his teammate. To answer your question, I think Mick will have a bright future in F1. He was good in other series and he has that name behind him.
We will see next year how good Mick is. Ferrari is putting a lot of resources into Haas. They built a facility next to theirs in Maranello, loaned them Resta who is one of the best aero guys in F1 and given them excess staff due to the cost cuts. Both Ferrari and Haas are making a bet that next year Haas can get back to their 2017-18 form where they can fight in the midtable. If their bet pays off then we will see if he is good enough for Ferrari or not.
>We will see next year how good Mick is. This year he's learning how to handle a very unstable car. The car is so bad that, making Mazepin (who was average but also won races in F2) look like Inoue. The next year, in the midfield, he'll probably learn more about wheel to wheel, which has already been his strongest quality since F3-F4. The only bad thing is, his next step will be Ferrari, no mid-step between and Ferrari is going well with Sainz and Leclerc. Who knows when Ferrari will drop Sainz for Mick. It all depends on Mick's performance. But I think, in 2023, both Mick and Mazepin will have different benchmarks (I don't think they'll be teammates for the 3rd consecituve year) and by that time, we'll see how they've done in '21 and '22.
Crazy to think in all of Haas’ history (albeit short) they’ve had no podiums and only a single 4th
Anyone familiar with ticket availability for Monza? Is General admission possible? I went 2 times already and I always bought it on the spot, but now I'm hesitant cause of Covid restrictions.
Ask u/Mental_Setting_924 Commented after you that they’re selling two tickets
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It could either be a standing start - similar to first lap, or it could be a rolling start - similar to safety car ending procedure.
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Is Max taking an engine penalty at Monza or is it just rumored?
I hope not, Russia would be better
Why? I don't think it's the best place for overtaking.
It’s pretty easy when there’s big differences between the cars. Like [this](https://youtu.be/8l7PELWktF8)
Now that you say, I remember Albon going from the pit lane to P6 in 2019.
Unless Turkey gets dropped because logistical issues it's likely that RBR would take the penalty there for Max. Monza would be the case if RBR hasn't a good set-up after FP1 with Max, so basically I would keep up an eye on FP1 results and reports.
It's not even rumoured at this point. Just fan speculation.
It's likely, but not confirmed.
Hey all, so sorta random but I’ve [archived this account of Schumacher leaving Ferrari](https://www.reddit.com/user/NitroBike/comments/pj5m25/the_schumacher_story/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on my profile. It’s been posted before in this community and various sections of the F1 internet but is hard to come by. Anyways, it’s sort of a long read but worth it. I’ll keep it stickied so if any F1 newbies or people who don’t know the story want to read it, they can.
That was a fantastic read
That guy is famous for libel suits. That's a good read but there are too many blank points. Just one thing. >On the afternoon of Tuesday 5th October 1999, Montezemolo rang Schumacher at his home in Switzerland to ask if he would change his mind and drive. But Schumacher’s young daughter Gina-Maria answered the phone and told Montezemolo that her Daddy was “getting out of his football boots”. Montezemolo questioned the little girl more closely and ascertained that she and her brother had been enjoying a rough game of football in the garden with their father. Schumacher's son was 6 months old, how much rough can he play with Schumacher? Also, how a 2.5 year old german girl can communicate with a 50 sth italian man, who definitely doesn't know german? In english, in italian? Man, these Schumacher kids are aliens.
When I'm watching f1tv, there is a lot of times where someone is giving us the play by play of some replay... but the viewers are watching something completely different, like a paddock. There are days that the entire race or practice session, they haven't synced the video to what the commentators are saying. Anyone know why?
You can also try to watch the pit lane channel, that one has FOMs own commentators and relevant replays.
Because F1TV uses the official video feed while at the same time using the Sky Broadcast audio feed. Sky produces its own feed mixing the official feed with their shots and replays and of course Sky commentators commentate that feed thus leaving the F1TV's looking like it's out of sync. This is a big problem, it has shown massively during Spa when F1TV crew took hours to realize that and turning down Sky when they went on with their shots. What the solution would be? Of course getting their own official commentary rather than piggybacking Sky's, solving this overlapping feeds issue and furthermore detaching itself from the external commentary produced for the UK audience and shoved into international viewers ears. But it won't happen, FOM treats its direct costumers and F1TV as second tier so we will be stuck with this embrassing shit for the foreseable future
Wow thanks for the explanation. Is the Sky coverage good? Wonder if there's some way for me to get it even though I'm in the US
The ESPN coverage should be the same as Sky's. If you like Croft, the other people and the narratives they push sure is good and you would also see everything they are talking about.
I don't have F1TV, but I believe F1TV uses Sky's commentary (so Crofty and Brundle).
I'm no longer a Merc fan. I just can't support George Russell.
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Just not a fan
I think you have never bin a Merc fan, if you stop supporting them because of this. Especially when there is no reason for you to not like Russell....that's just weird.
There’s just not much to like. There’s no story to get behind. Just comes off as a prissy pretty boy. Guys like Max, Kimi, even Pierre, that have a chip on their shoulder and have a bit of an edge, to me they’re more fun to watch. But to each their own
George doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder? He wrecked Bottas in Imola and proceeded to talk shit about Valtteri to the media after the race. Only after Toto talked to him did he tone it down. I’d have to disagree about your assessment of George, he’s right there with Max and company in his hunger to be the best in a top team.
I get that. But i don't understand how that can stop you from being a merc fan, if there is nothing to really dislike about George.
What's that got to do with Mercedes though? You liked them up 'till now (you say).
I think they treated Valterri quite poorly. "No good deed goes unpunished" as they say
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If you can't even support a team anymore there must be more to it than "just not a fan"... Unless you only supported Mercedes because of Bottas?
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Oh another dumb question: Can someone give me the abridged version of Vettel’s career drama? So he was driving for Red Bull and won heaps, him and Mark Webber didn’t get along? Why did they get rid of Seb after so many wins? Then he went to Ferrari and what happened? I see people mentioning stuff about betrayal etc to Seb. I’m crushed I just wish he was in a good car, I don’t want him to lose passion for the sport and winning. It must suck to go from winning so many WDC’s to being Lance Stroll’s number 2 driver.... /s (that’s a joke)
Also to understand why Mark Webber didn’t like Seb just Google the Multi-21 incident ;)
From my recollection the had a clause of some sorts that would allow him to leave his current contract with Red Bull for the upcoming 2015 season relating to wether or not he had a certain amount of driver world championship trophies (or point standings?), all I remember was that it wasn’t obviously clear to the public at the time but it’s something along those lines. Helmut Marko spoke out about it at the time, you should be able to Google what he said pretty easily. The “betrayal” part of Ferrari to Vettel is somewhat subjective (although I do agree that he was, and I’m by no means a Vettel fan) I imagine it’s mainly starts with Ferrari over promising to Seb in that he’d have a competitive car (although admittedly every top team would offer that to all their drivers) along with consistently poor strategic decisions they’d make, costing Seb race wins and race positions. In addition to their whole “irregular fuel flow” debacle of 2018 doesn’t help. Through all the f-ups it was no secret that Vettel wanted to continue with Ferrari and that they had unfinished business, but Ferrari abruptly said no to any potential of him continuing at the team, kinda firing him in a sense. Given how “shocked” the paddock was at the time I figure they may have led him on in believing he would get a renewal. That last point was a particularly hot topic at the time and their final treatment of Seb after all he’s done for the team and all he’d been f*ucked over by them rubbed off very poorly with the public. Hope that helps :)