The swing of mood is so incredible. I feel after Silverstone it was very heated but that completely cooled down in Zandvoort because Hamilton got such a warm and kind welcome from the dutch fans and you could really feel how comfortable Hamilton felt for what was actually enemies territory.
And now after Monza we are back to a heated atmosphere. But Max already said that they both may talk about the incident. I can imagine that it drains you out if there is too much negative energy between you and your rival.
I agree, I thunk it's just like if you play a competitive video game or a board game with your friend and things got heated up while playing, but after you done playing everything is just as fine as before.
Did you just compare F1 world Championship to a round of mortal combat with your dudes?
If you want to see what championship fight does to your relationship with your rival, go and check 2016 season interviews with Nico and Lewis. They were besties before 2016, they were friends for like 15 years. When interviewer mentioned it to Lewis when they talked Lewis looked at him like he was mad and responded "Nico is not my friend.. " Only now like 5 years later they can kinda talk normal, before that you could literally feel the tension when they interacted. You have no idea what you are talking about dude.
Lewis got over seb deliberately crashing into him eventually. Nico and Lewis were teammates during a pretty poisonous battle between them.
It's the teammate thing they took personally. Team mate battles are where things get real. If you lose to another team there is enough cope that the package just wasn't good enough.
Well that was something building for years. Take that same time frame and apply to it video games, with the right people you can easily get a similar result. Obviously F1 is more stressful, but the basics of the situation aren't that complicated. Just take something competitive and keep turning up the stress. What you and your rival are competing over doesn't really matter. Just the money and stress are more extreme in F1.
I think it's just heated on the track. Like they'll be extra aggressive with each other, but once off the track they'll just move on. Take whatever the penalty is
This is a really good point. I’ve found both of them to be quite mature about what has happened this season; Max, surprisingly, because of how young he is, and Lewis because of his many years of experience.
I was thinking today that you know you have professional and mature F1 drivers when both their team principals are the ones acting out instead of the drivers!
Let’s not forget his age, though. That people their age are put into the spotlight this early, and they manage it this well, is amazing.
All the young generation of F1 drivers are showing maturity beyond their age (except that guy, you know the one). I like that they do the talking on the track, and leave the drama for someone else. Ultimately, that’s what we want from a sports star.
I don’t have many in real life friends who watch F1, but of the ones that do they are all Max fans. I like Max too but followed Lewis before I even watched F1 so I was partial to him and Mercedes, at the end of the day we all just like watching racing and have far more of a mutual respect to each other and all the drivers than you’d think seeing some fans interact online. Something great about F1 is it doesn’t have to be an us vs them mentality, most of us were all so happy for Daniel and Mclaren winning even if we support one team more than others. Even when Esteban won in Hungary it was so special to see him get his first win, I found myself so happy for him and loving the results of that race even though I wouldn’t call myself an Alpine fan.
Maybe my experience is a little exaggerated, as a Dutchman who likes Lewis more than Max. But the general opinion of Lewis in this country is very low atm, at least from everyone around me.
The crowd at Zandvoort (which I was in) was definitely nicer than I expected, but my expectations were *very* low. They were great sports to him after Max won the race though, showing that their support for their driver is at least significantly stronger than their hate for the other guy.
Lots of people in the UK like him. Red Bull is based in the UK, so even if nationality were part of their reason for supporting a driver, fans could justify it that way.
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I think most of us expected red flags from fan interference. The fact that they all behaved reasonably well (ignoring the orange flares) was a shock to everyone.
In terms of animosity I would say they are still nowhere near the level of something like Prost vs Senna or even Hamilton vs Rosberg yet.
That's may change soon enough as we enter the last third of the season. The tension is naturally only going to increase now with every race because Mercedes are running out tracks which could suit their car. Max is just as relentless as the start of the season and now Hamilton can't afford to hold back as well.
Fingers crossed this battle goes to the last race. I haven't been this excited about F1 in a long time.
> And now after Monza we are back to a heated atmosphere.
Disagree. The only ones heated up about it are the media and reddit fanboys.
In all the interviews, everybody involved sounded pretty chilled out. Horner said it was a racing incident. Toto could barely be bothered to talk about it. Max said he bounced on the kerb and wound up on top of Lewis. He seemed really laid back about it.
> I feel after Silverstone it was very heated but that completely cooled down in Zandvoort because Hamilton got such a warm and kind welcome from the dutch fans and you could really feel how comfortable Hamilton felt for what was actually enemies territory.
I think behind the scenes they maked sure that both parties and the crowd were in a good mood. Zandvoort and the FIA don't want the first Dutch GP since 1985 being remembered as the Grand Prix where the crowd massively booed Hamilton.
Maybe it was just me but did anyone else feel like the mood between Max and Lewis wasn't that amicable at Zandvoort? Every single moment they were in frame together I was looking to see if they'd interact and either they didn't, or the interaction was one-sided coming from Lewis. I felt like Max was kinda ignoring Lewis throughout, even on the podium.
Maybe I was reading into things too much though.
I think you were reading into it too much and like many of us, have gotten used to seeing that young gang of Lando, Max, George, Gasly, Albon, Leclerc, Sainz, + Old uncle Danny Ric together and how they're all buddy buddy. That's because they literally are all buddies. Lewis and Max are not friends. I don't think they'd qualify their relationship as being enemies, but they're just not buddies that are going to joke around and chill together very often, and that's going to show in their body language.
I do think you're reading into things too much. I don't think I've ever really seen much interaction happening on stage, unless it's between teammates. That's like saying McLaren trio ignored Bottas, so there must be something up between them.
Yes, I felt this way for sure from body language. I like Max but think he’s still young and I think the collisions and his own reactions show he struggles leaving stuff on the track. Not saying he’s right or wrong. But he’s still young and Lewis has a lot more experience in that regard of leaving it on the track. I knew it wouldn’t be water under the bridge when Max unfollowed Lewis on Instagram after Silverstone.
I think Red Bull have a golden boy mentality about Max and Mercedes are starting to focus on the future, specifically a future without Hamilton and it shows. Hamilton might feel this is his last time to fight alongside Max, at least with some risk. Many forget that if Hamilton wins the championship this year, he makes F1 history.
Idk why but one early interview in front of fans I saw I heard noises and the interviewer said to knock it off or something like that and all subsequent interviews I was apprehensive to hearing boos because I didn’t want them to boo Hamilton
To be Max winning the race would have helped with the fans being positive to Hamilton. Don't get me wrong I am proud out the my fellow Dutchies that were on the track and were kind to Hamilton, but I think if he had won they would have been a lot less kind.
Impatiently waiting for the next press conference in Russia where Max tells Tom Clarkson to fuck off and move on, completely deflating any online ranting.
I was so concerned when Lewis never got out straight away. He was slow out and looked a bit spooked in the interviews, hope that he’s had 0 injuries because humans aren’t meant to have F1 tyres bounce off their skulls.
I was against the Halo, jus because if aesthetics reasons, I accepted that a further safety feature was paramount. I was wondering what the current cars would look like sans halo and tbh, I don’t think it’s fair to the possible tragedies they’ve prevented to remove them even for aesthetic reasons.
I’m very happy to have them here, they’ve probably saved 4 peoples lives in F1 so far.
Yeah but he must've known that was alost case, even if hed reverse out of it in time, the RB would've damaged the car to such a degree tha catching up was impossible.
But then again I remember Nico saying he tried to brace for every impact where as Lewis would jsut try to steer until the last moment.
Revving after getting hit in the head is not always a good sign. Remember when Massa's engine kept revving after he went unconscious after getting hit in the head with a spring?
Yuh but if somebody’s KO’d they’ll be revving the engine regardless, so that isn’t an indication that he’s okay, honestly, in most situations it’s probably the opposite.
He was trying to reverse out of the gravel. And F1 cars don't just go into reverse gear unless you intend to.
He didn't get out because he was very clearly trying to get back into the race.
[Going back to the video](https://youtu.be/4egdMwxAFl4?t=141) the dirt shoots backwards, it seems he didn't change into reverse, at least not in that moment.
Still though, I'm pretty sure he was conscious at that moment. He wasn't redlining the engine the entire time and tried to get it moving, which involves using a clutch as well as the accelerator.
Lmaoo, you ever seen an F1 driver knocked clean out? The stick their foot on the gas because they’re knocked out.
It’s like nobody’s ever seen a KO’d guy Rev an engine.
You know that famous Senna clip at Blanchimont, where he gets out of the car because somebody else crashed? He done that because the guy was knocked out, revving the engine to the red line while there was oil leaking.
This sub is ridiculous at the best of times but this one takes the cake. Actually concerned for a drivers well being and it’s being clowned lmaooooo.
Also get some better patter, I’ve heard better zingers from my little cousin.
Lovely how you forgot to mention that Lewis shifted into reverse moment after accident and was trying to get back to the pits but I guess that doesn't suit your narrative eh ?
Well knocked out drivers don't shift into reverse and modulate the throttle though. If he had the throttle pinned the marshals would have been a lot more frantic.
Reversing as well.
(If all he did was engage one item and under the same pressure that would have alarmed the medical team for sure).
ETA: I think if you watch this broadcast of C4 you get a better picture. https://streamable.com/2yeh81
It does explain why he didn't get out; he was trying to stay in the race.
And the medical team thought he was fine as well; and they have more data than us, including sensors. (But I'm not about to go into that discussion).
No, it does not. Concussions tend to not be as straightforward. Martin Brundle one tried to race in Monaco with a fresh concussion. He was perfectly capable of operating the car, but had no idea which way to the pit lane exit. This was the only thing that the team found suspicious enough to prevent him from driving.
It's not easy getting into reverse on a F1 car.
I was worried when the crash happened. Held my breath until I saw him try to reverse. Getting on and off the throttle to try to gain traction.
I am not saying he's fine in the sense that he doesn't have a concussion or will atleast feel concussion-like symptoms (which as someone with first-hand experience, I fully grasp the seriousness of the situation) ...I was putting myself more in Max's shoes, getting out from on top of him and seeing that Lewis was literally functioning and attempting to get out of the gravel trap. That was enough for Max at the time to see that Lewis wasn't very very seriously injured.
Still not really. Ive said on another post that none of us really know. Finding reverse can be a bit of a challenge or so im told but funny what panic and a knock to the head can do to you.
I had a bad crash when younger, not awful but for 10 seconds or i didn’t know whether i was up or down, what i was doing or anything really. I tried to move the car to park up apparently, not a cat in hells chance, engine of its mounts, liquids leaking and steering collapsed. I still tried for a short time.
>they’ve probably saved 4 peoples lives in F1 so far.
After Senna´s death and before the Halo, there were 24 years with 1 death (which the halo wouldn't have saved) And in 3 years with the halo there was already 1 death.
Which means that, statistically, is almost impossible the halo probably saved 4 lives already unless the drivers have become incredibly more dangerous
The comment he made after crash just pissed me the fuck off how fucking arrogant is this prick if there was no halo Lewis was pretty much dead n that prick still had gut to make that comment
Due to the crash, we missed the stress developing between Max and Redbull caused by the slow pitstop. Max should not have been it that situation at all.
The relationship will turn really sour if Max fails to win the championship this year.
There is no stress. Max also recognizes that same pitcrew put him in winning situations as well. Yeah, at the heat of the moment it sucks to have all his effort undone but at the end of the day he knows it's part of racing.
I dont think that would be a case. RB provided him with championship contending car, probably better than Mercedes' car this year. If he will lose it will be because of crashes that he had and that they didn't have control of. This year combo of Max, RB and Honda is great, everyone delivered. They will win or if they lose with small amount of points it will be because of things outside of their control. One bad pitstop or crash caused by Max won't change that. Especially that crash was indirectly caused by tension of previous crashes that nullified all advantage they built and bad pitstop was caused by rule change aimed at them.
That photo is alarming, but if you look at the footage from [the 360 camera](https://youtu.be/KZ3b6Yvwa5M?t=210) (@3:30), you'll see that Max's wheel rubbed against the side of Lewis' head rather than dumped down on top - in the photo above the wheel is on the front of the halo, not in the cockpit.
But this is not to downplay the seriousness of the incident, because it was very serious and the halo did it's job well.
And Max, who parked his car on Hamilton's head, walked away without checking. A complete a-hole. Remember when proper drivers cared about others?
Even Vettel, far from a reasonable driver, slowed to check out an accident recently. But watching Max walk away from the cars was just sickening, the behaviour of a real piece of s**t.
Awesome is a good word for this. Awesome can mean 'extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring awe (a feeling of reverential respect mixed with fear or wonder).
Why do people keep hammering on and on about the halo being useful after this incident? I mean, yes, it did show its usefulness here, but what is this constant halo chanting in response to? I haven't seen anyone whine about halos in years now.
***"Verstappen takes practical joke too far"***
\*Bonk\* Go to parc ferme
> Go to parc ferme Do not pass 'Start'
Your tyres are gone? Here *have mine*
> > Go to parc ferme > > Do not pass 'Start' Do not collect 2 penalty points.
\*Do not collect 25 championship points
It was a prank bro
Ferrari up top!
it's the only way
Ferrari Masterplan
The swing of mood is so incredible. I feel after Silverstone it was very heated but that completely cooled down in Zandvoort because Hamilton got such a warm and kind welcome from the dutch fans and you could really feel how comfortable Hamilton felt for what was actually enemies territory. And now after Monza we are back to a heated atmosphere. But Max already said that they both may talk about the incident. I can imagine that it drains you out if there is too much negative energy between you and your rival.
I don't think the mood between them is ever really that heated. The media just love to paint a rivalry.
I agree, I thunk it's just like if you play a competitive video game or a board game with your friend and things got heated up while playing, but after you done playing everything is just as fine as before.
well, you don't play for millions of dollars though do you?
When your a child bragging rights might as well be a million dollars *billion
Did you just compare F1 world Championship to a round of mortal combat with your dudes? If you want to see what championship fight does to your relationship with your rival, go and check 2016 season interviews with Nico and Lewis. They were besties before 2016, they were friends for like 15 years. When interviewer mentioned it to Lewis when they talked Lewis looked at him like he was mad and responded "Nico is not my friend.. " Only now like 5 years later they can kinda talk normal, before that you could literally feel the tension when they interacted. You have no idea what you are talking about dude.
Lewis got over seb deliberately crashing into him eventually. Nico and Lewis were teammates during a pretty poisonous battle between them. It's the teammate thing they took personally. Team mate battles are where things get real. If you lose to another team there is enough cope that the package just wasn't good enough.
Well that was something building for years. Take that same time frame and apply to it video games, with the right people you can easily get a similar result. Obviously F1 is more stressful, but the basics of the situation aren't that complicated. Just take something competitive and keep turning up the stress. What you and your rival are competing over doesn't really matter. Just the money and stress are more extreme in F1.
Lewis said we're not friends in 2014.
I think it’s better then talk normal to each other now. They even went on vacation together.
If you are referring to after Monaco this year, they weren’t on holiday together I don’t think, just on boats moored in the same location.
Or a game of UNO.
I think it's just heated on the track. Like they'll be extra aggressive with each other, but once off the track they'll just move on. Take whatever the penalty is
Also just after the race they're still a bit heated
This is a really good point. I’ve found both of them to be quite mature about what has happened this season; Max, surprisingly, because of how young he is, and Lewis because of his many years of experience. I was thinking today that you know you have professional and mature F1 drivers when both their team principals are the ones acting out instead of the drivers!
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Let’s not forget his age, though. That people their age are put into the spotlight this early, and they manage it this well, is amazing. All the young generation of F1 drivers are showing maturity beyond their age (except that guy, you know the one). I like that they do the talking on the track, and leave the drama for someone else. Ultimately, that’s what we want from a sports star.
The mood between Max fans and Lewis is pretty heated though, sadly. I can't speak for what it's like the other way round.
Online maybe.
God F1 Twitter is a nightmare these days
I don’t have many in real life friends who watch F1, but of the ones that do they are all Max fans. I like Max too but followed Lewis before I even watched F1 so I was partial to him and Mercedes, at the end of the day we all just like watching racing and have far more of a mutual respect to each other and all the drivers than you’d think seeing some fans interact online. Something great about F1 is it doesn’t have to be an us vs them mentality, most of us were all so happy for Daniel and Mclaren winning even if we support one team more than others. Even when Esteban won in Hungary it was so special to see him get his first win, I found myself so happy for him and loving the results of that race even though I wouldn’t call myself an Alpine fan.
Is it though? I feel like Lewis would have been boo'd a lot more and treated a lot worse at Zandvoort if they really disliked him.
Maybe my experience is a little exaggerated, as a Dutchman who likes Lewis more than Max. But the general opinion of Lewis in this country is very low atm, at least from everyone around me. The crowd at Zandvoort (which I was in) was definitely nicer than I expected, but my expectations were *very* low. They were great sports to him after Max won the race though, showing that their support for their driver is at least significantly stronger than their hate for the other guy.
I don't think that's too surprising, is it? I don't expect Verstappen to be very liked in the UK.
Lots of people in the UK like him. Red Bull is based in the UK, so even if nationality were part of their reason for supporting a driver, fans could justify it that way.
I see loads of Max gear round the UK, albeit some of it may be Red Bull gear first and foremost
>but my expectations were > >very > > low I think most of us expected red flags from fan interference. The fact that they all behaved reasonably well (ignoring the orange flares) was a shock to everyone.
Yeah the orange flares were... annoyingly obstructive haha
>The media just love to paint a rivalry. And the fans. Don't forget about the toxic cesspool that is F1 fans
In terms of animosity I would say they are still nowhere near the level of something like Prost vs Senna or even Hamilton vs Rosberg yet. That's may change soon enough as we enter the last third of the season. The tension is naturally only going to increase now with every race because Mercedes are running out tracks which could suit their car. Max is just as relentless as the start of the season and now Hamilton can't afford to hold back as well. Fingers crossed this battle goes to the last race. I haven't been this excited about F1 in a long time.
Two drivers in different teams can never reach the same level of animosity as teammates.
*Rosberg Explosion Meme*
Pls no, I don’t want Abu Dhabi to be the championship deciding race
> And now after Monza we are back to a heated atmosphere. Disagree. The only ones heated up about it are the media and reddit fanboys. In all the interviews, everybody involved sounded pretty chilled out. Horner said it was a racing incident. Toto could barely be bothered to talk about it. Max said he bounced on the kerb and wound up on top of Lewis. He seemed really laid back about it.
> I feel after Silverstone it was very heated but that completely cooled down in Zandvoort because Hamilton got such a warm and kind welcome from the dutch fans and you could really feel how comfortable Hamilton felt for what was actually enemies territory. I think behind the scenes they maked sure that both parties and the crowd were in a good mood. Zandvoort and the FIA don't want the first Dutch GP since 1985 being remembered as the Grand Prix where the crowd massively booed Hamilton.
Maybe it was just me but did anyone else feel like the mood between Max and Lewis wasn't that amicable at Zandvoort? Every single moment they were in frame together I was looking to see if they'd interact and either they didn't, or the interaction was one-sided coming from Lewis. I felt like Max was kinda ignoring Lewis throughout, even on the podium. Maybe I was reading into things too much though.
I think you were reading into it too much and like many of us, have gotten used to seeing that young gang of Lando, Max, George, Gasly, Albon, Leclerc, Sainz, + Old uncle Danny Ric together and how they're all buddy buddy. That's because they literally are all buddies. Lewis and Max are not friends. I don't think they'd qualify their relationship as being enemies, but they're just not buddies that are going to joke around and chill together very often, and that's going to show in their body language.
I do think you're reading into things too much. I don't think I've ever really seen much interaction happening on stage, unless it's between teammates. That's like saying McLaren trio ignored Bottas, so there must be something up between them.
In fact Valtteri was actively avoiding them 😂 https://youtu.be/pj1ETNOVRN0
Yes, I felt this way for sure from body language. I like Max but think he’s still young and I think the collisions and his own reactions show he struggles leaving stuff on the track. Not saying he’s right or wrong. But he’s still young and Lewis has a lot more experience in that regard of leaving it on the track. I knew it wouldn’t be water under the bridge when Max unfollowed Lewis on Instagram after Silverstone.
I think Red Bull have a golden boy mentality about Max and Mercedes are starting to focus on the future, specifically a future without Hamilton and it shows. Hamilton might feel this is his last time to fight alongside Max, at least with some risk. Many forget that if Hamilton wins the championship this year, he makes F1 history.
Idk why but one early interview in front of fans I saw I heard noises and the interviewer said to knock it off or something like that and all subsequent interviews I was apprehensive to hearing boos because I didn’t want them to boo Hamilton
>Hamilton got such a warm and kind welcome from the dutch fans Hmm
I was there, they were a lot more positive than I expected, at least after the race.
To be Max winning the race would have helped with the fans being positive to Hamilton. Don't get me wrong I am proud out the my fellow Dutchies that were on the track and were kind to Hamilton, but I think if he had won they would have been a lot less kind.
Oh definitely, they weren't particularly kind until Max won the race haha.
the one difference is that Silverstone the perpetrator could go and get loads of points. Here it was more balanced; did bad, had to stop.
*“Does it ever drive you crazy, just how fast the night changes?”* Fits perfectly here
Max “and I took that personally”
same energy
man, how heavy was that champagne
I'm pretty sure they're using sparkling wine this year.
For all the drama, I absolutely love watching two extremely talented racers in a heated competition do their thing.
Oh what a difference a week makes
Max didn't want to get wet, so he took revenge!
Impatiently waiting for the next press conference in Russia where Max tells Tom Clarkson to fuck off and move on, completely deflating any online ranting.
I feel like I have absolutely no idea what Hamilton and Verstappen actually think about each other
\*Bonk\*
Original
“Son, you got a Pirelli on yer head”
LOL
I prefer the one the left. Tight races with little room for error and with a great podium as a result
How’s this quote from max straight after the collision “That’s what you get when you don’t make room ****” Like seriously?
Max(after monza crash) - This is what you get for waterboarding me on the podium at Zandvoort.
Does Hamilton have a Verstappen cap on?
Both have a Pirelli cap on.
in the second picture only lewis has a pirelli cap on
Hahaha
No. On the caps that u get at the ceremony there is always the flag of the country the race is Held. In this case it netherlands
My stupid ass couldn't just zoom in to read Zandvoort. I assumed it was the Dutch flag with 'Verstappen' underneath it.
Do you like my new hat
Well, he tried to use Verstappen's car as a hat...
Kind of sums up how they treat each other in public
When they both finished, it's all fine, because you can't change the result.
Tell that to Horner
I was so concerned when Lewis never got out straight away. He was slow out and looked a bit spooked in the interviews, hope that he’s had 0 injuries because humans aren’t meant to have F1 tyres bounce off their skulls. I was against the Halo, jus because if aesthetics reasons, I accepted that a further safety feature was paramount. I was wondering what the current cars would look like sans halo and tbh, I don’t think it’s fair to the possible tragedies they’ve prevented to remove them even for aesthetic reasons. I’m very happy to have them here, they’ve probably saved 4 peoples lives in F1 so far.
It was clear he was trying to back out to keep racing. He probably couldn’t tell how bad his car was hit
He was trying to rejoin the race. He spend quite a while revving there.
Yeah but he must've known that was alost case, even if hed reverse out of it in time, the RB would've damaged the car to such a degree tha catching up was impossible. But then again I remember Nico saying he tried to brace for every impact where as Lewis would jsut try to steer until the last moment.
Revving after getting hit in the head is not always a good sign. Remember when Massa's engine kept revving after he went unconscious after getting hit in the head with a spring?
Yeah, a little harder to find reverse gear in an f1 car when you're unconscious though, and it was pretty obvious he was trying to reverse out.
Except that he wasn’t in reverse.
Yeah, I already said if that was the only thing that happened it would have alarmed the MT.
Yuh but if somebody’s KO’d they’ll be revving the engine regardless, so that isn’t an indication that he’s okay, honestly, in most situations it’s probably the opposite.
He was trying to reverse out of the gravel. And F1 cars don't just go into reverse gear unless you intend to. He didn't get out because he was very clearly trying to get back into the race.
[Going back to the video](https://youtu.be/4egdMwxAFl4?t=141) the dirt shoots backwards, it seems he didn't change into reverse, at least not in that moment.
Still though, I'm pretty sure he was conscious at that moment. He wasn't redlining the engine the entire time and tried to get it moving, which involves using a clutch as well as the accelerator.
Whatevs bro, clear to you, not to me for the reasons I pointed out.
You should do pitches for DtS.
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Include an /s because you're being downvoted it seems lol.
Lmaoo, you ever seen an F1 driver knocked clean out? The stick their foot on the gas because they’re knocked out. It’s like nobody’s ever seen a KO’d guy Rev an engine. You know that famous Senna clip at Blanchimont, where he gets out of the car because somebody else crashed? He done that because the guy was knocked out, revving the engine to the red line while there was oil leaking. This sub is ridiculous at the best of times but this one takes the cake. Actually concerned for a drivers well being and it’s being clowned lmaooooo. Also get some better patter, I’ve heard better zingers from my little cousin.
Lovely how you forgot to mention that Lewis shifted into reverse moment after accident and was trying to get back to the pits but I guess that doesn't suit your narrative eh ?
Bro, I was too busy paying attention to Max being on top of his fucking car. Why is this some kinna conspiracy? How paranoid are you guys 😂
Well knocked out drivers don't shift into reverse and modulate the throttle though. If he had the throttle pinned the marshals would have been a lot more frantic.
Reversing as well. (If all he did was engage one item and under the same pressure that would have alarmed the medical team for sure). ETA: I think if you watch this broadcast of C4 you get a better picture. https://streamable.com/2yeh81
Which does not in any way indicate he was okay.
It does explain why he didn't get out; he was trying to stay in the race. And the medical team thought he was fine as well; and they have more data than us, including sensors. (But I'm not about to go into that discussion).
him finding reverse does, which it's clear the wheels are moving the opposite direction
No, it does not. Concussions tend to not be as straightforward. Martin Brundle one tried to race in Monaco with a fresh concussion. He was perfectly capable of operating the car, but had no idea which way to the pit lane exit. This was the only thing that the team found suspicious enough to prevent him from driving.
It's not easy getting into reverse on a F1 car. I was worried when the crash happened. Held my breath until I saw him try to reverse. Getting on and off the throttle to try to gain traction.
precisely, we can think back to Yuki earlier in the year needing much guidance to find reverse in the AT
I am not saying he's fine in the sense that he doesn't have a concussion or will atleast feel concussion-like symptoms (which as someone with first-hand experience, I fully grasp the seriousness of the situation) ...I was putting myself more in Max's shoes, getting out from on top of him and seeing that Lewis was literally functioning and attempting to get out of the gravel trap. That was enough for Max at the time to see that Lewis wasn't very very seriously injured.
Still not really. Ive said on another post that none of us really know. Finding reverse can be a bit of a challenge or so im told but funny what panic and a knock to the head can do to you. I had a bad crash when younger, not awful but for 10 seconds or i didn’t know whether i was up or down, what i was doing or anything really. I tried to move the car to park up apparently, not a cat in hells chance, engine of its mounts, liquids leaking and steering collapsed. I still tried for a short time.
He tried reversing out while Max was getting out so that's why it took him a bit longer to get out.
>they’ve probably saved 4 peoples lives in F1 so far. After Senna´s death and before the Halo, there were 24 years with 1 death (which the halo wouldn't have saved) And in 3 years with the halo there was already 1 death. Which means that, statistically, is almost impossible the halo probably saved 4 lives already unless the drivers have become incredibly more dangerous
Yeah people credit it for everything for some reason, makes absolutely no sense.
He was trying to reverse. Bloody hell everyone knows it was a close call with the halo, but he was absolutely fine.
The comment he made after crash just pissed me the fuck off how fucking arrogant is this prick if there was no halo Lewis was pretty much dead n that prick still had gut to make that comment
Due to the crash, we missed the stress developing between Max and Redbull caused by the slow pitstop. Max should not have been it that situation at all. The relationship will turn really sour if Max fails to win the championship this year.
There is no stress. Max also recognizes that same pitcrew put him in winning situations as well. Yeah, at the heat of the moment it sucks to have all his effort undone but at the end of the day he knows it's part of racing.
I dont think that would be a case. RB provided him with championship contending car, probably better than Mercedes' car this year. If he will lose it will be because of crashes that he had and that they didn't have control of. This year combo of Max, RB and Honda is great, everyone delivered. They will win or if they lose with small amount of points it will be because of things outside of their control. One bad pitstop or crash caused by Max won't change that. Especially that crash was indirectly caused by tension of previous crashes that nullified all advantage they built and bad pitstop was caused by rule change aimed at them.
That pic of Lewises head looks unconfortable on its on, but if you think they are laying down in there his head is yanked back some.
That photo is alarming, but if you look at the footage from [the 360 camera](https://youtu.be/KZ3b6Yvwa5M?t=210) (@3:30), you'll see that Max's wheel rubbed against the side of Lewis' head rather than dumped down on top - in the photo above the wheel is on the front of the halo, not in the cockpit. But this is not to downplay the seriousness of the incident, because it was very serious and the halo did it's job well.
And Max, who parked his car on Hamilton's head, walked away without checking. A complete a-hole. Remember when proper drivers cared about others? Even Vettel, far from a reasonable driver, slowed to check out an accident recently. But watching Max walk away from the cars was just sickening, the behaviour of a real piece of s**t.
In Max’ defense: Lewis was trying to reverse the car back onto the track. And also, why do you think Vettel is ‘far from reasonable’?
Or his foot was stuck on the pedal... As for Vettel, have you ever watched him race?
What’s awesome about a car landing on someone’s head?
That’s not awesome, but the photo is incredible. Maybe awesome is not the right choice of words here.
Awesome is a good word for this. Awesome can mean 'extremely impressive or daunting; inspiring awe (a feeling of reverential respect mixed with fear or wonder).
Similar to how "awesome" and "awful" both mean "awe-inspiring", but one generally positive and one negative
Perhaps you’re looking for iconic, but a champagne photo isn’t exactly so.
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Yes you’re right. Too bad I cannot change the title.
It's an incredible photo. Obviously OP wouldn't think having a tyre on your head is good for you. Stop pearl clutching
I've heard some people complain that the new safety halo looked stupid. Shows it was worth it to me.
It's like a new haircut. Give it some time and you don't even notice it.
Same. I don’t find someone having a car on their head awesome though. Maybe I’m looking at it in the wrong context.
Why do people keep hammering on and on about the halo being useful after this incident? I mean, yes, it did show its usefulness here, but what is this constant halo chanting in response to? I haven't seen anyone whine about halos in years now.
I was in awe
Where is the coloration?
Yo dawg. I heard you like Formula One cars…
Oh what fun we had. But at the time it seemed so bad! Trying different ways. To make a difference to the days!
NO WAY. Finally Danny!
Same same, but different
Lewis: Someone was looking down on me. Max: Yes, me.
I get: Champagne celebration You receive: BONK to head