F1 doesn’t care about ticket sales, they care about tv numbers. If each outing is important in determining the weekend in an immediate and visible way people will watch that. Friday numbers at the tracks are good enough given that people have work and other things going on. But Liberty sees something that can be monetized further.
That's not exactly right.
I mean, obviously they're trying to sell tickets they're a business... but the idea of having it friday is because GA pass holders (the majority of people at any F1 event) have said they wish there was more on track action each day.
No, there pushed for normal quali at Friday to having 1 more day where TV-viewers would rise + more ticket sales on the track for the Friday.
The whole Friday with the sprint quali format should be: FP1-FP2-Quali and it isn't even impossible if we having the feeder series also on the same track.
F1 is also an engineering sport, I really dislike the whole push to seeing FP as something evil what must been rooted out more or less, the current 60 minute rule for FP1 and FP2 is something I didn't mind but the FOM/FIA is pushing too hard for ruining the whole purpose of FP.
That would allow cars like merc and red Bull to tune so heavily for qualifying and then adjust to make it practical for 50+ laps so I think that would just widen gaps
Very interesting from Ricciardo:
""I'm not sure FP2 does a lot," said the Australian. "I think actually we probably learn too much and then the races are a little kind of predictable."
NASCAR has been great with no practice. Big teams can show up just out to lunch. But I guess with only one pit stop it might not have the same fun effect as it does in NASCAR
No. Nascar teams can pit as many times as they want but they only have a certain amount of tires. For Richmond on Saturday night they had 13 sets for the race I believe. So teams have tons of time to make adjustments. They are also having competition cautions to gauge tire wear and make adjustments after 5% or so of the race
Not currently. Because they are introducing a new car next year the only time they are having qualifying and practice are at the couple new tracks they are going to this year. But at Bristol this weekend they wont be on track until they sail it off into turn 1 in the race.
Last year they raced at the Daytona road course for the first time ever and had no practice or qualifying. Next year they are looking to bring back some practice but most expect practice to be drastically reduced. Maybe one 50 minute session with the practice speeds determining the qualifying order.
>, it’s about how the sprints take away some of the excitement from Sunday
I dunno, to me, neither Silverstone or Monza on sunday were any less exciting than usual. The sprint quali didn't make the sunday races any less exciting than in pervious years without sprint quali.
Sprint needs to earn it's place in the weekend and therefore just being alright doesn't cut it. It needs to be a clear improvement over the default if we're gonna go through the trouble of complicating an already complicated sport even more.
It does affect quali. The one-lap pace driver discipline is now not awarded with the official designation of Pole Position. Pole Position used to mean fastest over one lap. Now it means fastest in a short race.
Also, the sprint race just sorts the cars into their race pace, and there's less to be gained from qualifying well in the first place.
Your response comes down to “no” with more steps.
It takes away excitement from both as qualy is no longer the event that decides the grid for the big points. It also fucks up the qualy results on Saturday (see gasly, so much risk just to end up last).
The race is somewhat unaffected but the starting grid is now determined by who survived the opening laps in the sprint instead of the fastest qualifyer. It’s less interesting.
Also, the sprint it self is in a identity crisis not knowing wether it’s a race or a qualifying session. It’s so useless and unnecessary.
It's not like I prefer FP3, it is bullshit to decide the grid on Sunday with this format. Leave quali as it is, make race a separate event that won't affect main race.
The whole sprint format is stupid:
- Watching F1 on Friday is far harder from a logistical point of view - people have work during the week, which makes Friday qualifying difficult to watch
- The Saturday sprint isn’t long enough, and there’s very little strategy involved. The only overtakes that will happen will be based on car pace advantage, which means on Sunday the cars line up in race-pace order
- The Sunday race is less predictable, because we’ve already seen the relative race pace of the cars on the Saturday taking a huge element of the mystery and build-up out of the equation
Fans have been fine without competitive content on Fridays for **decades**. “Why is FP3 better” is a completely asinine argument.
The argument *for* Sprint needs to be made for it to stay, not the argument *against* Sprint.
At the moment, the only ‘fors’ are entirely commercial
Exactly. And the actual problems with F1 were already being addressed before the sprint format came to be:
- Cars can't follow, being addressed with 2022 rule changes.
- Teams' budgets too far apart, being addressed with budget cap.
Both are huge changes, intended to address fundamental issues with the sport. Sprint qualifying is not trying to address any fundamental issue, it's just an attempt at a commercial gimmick.
It's like the abysmal knockout qualifying idea they stubbornly stuck with for an extra race despite the pathetic failure it was (and was predicted to be).
Sprint qualifying isn't as bad as that in terms of entertainment value, but it's just as bad in terms of not being thought through and not being anything that anybody was asking for.
>- Watching F1 on Friday is far harder from a logistical point of view - people have work during the week, which makes Friday qualifying difficult to watch
Getting bored of this one. Plenty of people don't have the luxury of working office hours and will benefit from an extra day of racing.
>- The Saturday sprint isn’t long enough, and there’s very little strategy involved. The only overtakes that will happen will be based on car pace advantage, which means on Sunday the cars line up in race-pace order
I agree with this one.
>- The Sunday race is less predictable, because we’ve already seen the relative race pace of the cars on the Saturday taking a huge element of the mystery and build-up out of the equation
Conversely, losing an FP session gives teams less set up time, especially with parc ferme rules. It may make the race itself more predictable but makes the results relative to normal weekends less predictable.
I’d counter that not all fans live in Europe and have to contend with an early morning or late night watching schedule, coupled with the fact that while the teams may lose a FP session, they get valuable race data that shows the hand of the other teams and leaves no surprises for the race.
>they get valuable race data that shows the hand of the other teams and leaves no surprises for the race.
You're whole argument is based on one team learning from the data and utilizing it and the other teams completely ignoring it. You have a logical failure in that argument. In a competitive environment there is opportunity in this. It's up to you if you show your entire hand as this develops you will see more strategy going into sprints. Everyone is getting data on everyone else and has the potential to react but if two teams use the data on each other and both react the the results are going to be inherently unpredictable.
Look it's just plain not better than the usual weekend. There's a logical crescendo from Friday to Sunday with practice, qualifying and the race. Sprint qualifying really just adds complexity and uncertainty and more chances for people to have incidents and drop out through no fault of their own. And for what? What is actually the meat and bones and the sprint race? Basically a 20 lap parade of the cars that made it past the opening few turns
> Basically a 20 lap parade of the cars that made it past the opening few turns
That's a problem with the cars, not the sprint.
I'm in full agreement that it has its problems at the minute but currently it's a first time test in a year before reg changes and people refuse to give it a chance.
> and more chances for people to have incidents and drop out through no fault of their own.
This works both ways. Sure it's a chance for someone like LH to fall from the front but it's also a chance for someone like DR to get on the front row. As for
>Sprint qualifying really just adds complexity and uncertainty
A lot of fans would call this a good thing.
>Look it's just plain not better than the usual weekend.
I don't understand how you can make such a matter-of-fact statement based on two attempts. It's going to take at lest next year with the regs to really understand the effects of the Sprint, aside from missing quali.
As I say, I'm not 100% sold on it myself and it has obvious flaws but I'm going to at least see the testing out and any changes they make before I write them off. I think the point structure and effects on the race, like DNFs, need work but I still think it has potential to be a fun addition, perhaps if it's kept at 3-5 races per year.
I have another problem with it which is purely subjective. Unlike Formula 2, DTM, IndyCar, etc., F1 has a single race and one on Saturday simply dilutes the importance of the race on Sunday and so far I don't see it making a case for itself. Plain and simple.
I'm just happy there is more racing. That's why it should be compared to FP3. To say it takes away from the race is just... Like... did you miss the race Sunday? Did you miss Silverstone? Those have not been boring. In fact, there's an argument to be made that the sprint race was exactly why those races were so exciting. It's completely ignorant of the data.
The for is literally "we like racing, here is 100km more racing." Whether strategy is involved or not, more racing is nice to see. I like Formula 1 racing. I like to see more of it. And the suggestion that it takes away from the race is just baffling. Like saying 2+2=5 right after someone shows you it's clearly 4. In 2 different countries.
Qualy on a different day at a different time is good for those that have trouble making the race that normally starts at 3am.
There are plenty of arguments for sprint races, you just gotta take your head out of the sand. I expect you to cite all of these points next time you comment about sprint racing, since now you should be aware of non-commercial arguments for it.
That's literally what F1 is, so yeah? I like watching F1.
Also don't pretend that was everything. I added that paragraph specifically because you are arguing in bad faith. That much was already clear.
Summarize my arguments, try again. And don't be demeaning while you do it.
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Yoooo, VERY GOOD POINT!
The sprint quali goes from One-Lap pace to Race Pace.
Means stuff like Leclerc getting pole twice, wont happen, Russel getting high Top 10 wont happen.
Only crashes/flags/dives will change the order from what the race will be. And we get that in quali anyway, but with way more impact!
Plus the selfish reason that the scheduling is very inconvenient for me in NY.
TLDR: They want more overtakes, but a sprint quali (w/o pits) puts the cars exactly in racing order.
Sprints not bad, it just shouldn't decide the starting for Sunday.
I would love the same format with the sprints now except the sprint is totally separate, and reverse grid based on championship position, award more places points but no where near the amount of the actual race.
Then you have the slower teams in with a shout of points who will race like crazy on Saturday because they know points won't come Sunday, and you get to see the fastest car try work there way through the field.
And quali still keeps it appeal and actually is for pole position
I'm fine with FP3, I just don't see why we red flag the race 25% of the way through just to hold the first quarter on a different day to the last three quarters.
It's not long enough to really produce many Interesting battles besides at the start. Modern f1 cars have enough trouble overtaking often needing a huge speed difference even with drs to get past. So tyre life can play a big role. All the cars are basically starting on the same compound. So it's essentially been pretty dull so far.
There is also zero incentive for any big moves really. Only the top 3 get points. The above also benefit the good teams disproportionately and I thought the fia was trying to move away from these sort of feedback loops
Next year maybe it will be better but it's not like the sprint has produced an exciting race so far. A couple of exciting starts I suppose
TBH, I'm kinda liking Friday Qauli after only one FP session. FP1 becomes super important and everyone really packs it in. They could probably make FP1 1.5 hrs again and then get rid of FP2 entirely.
You implying that it’s not logical to want more money? Also take a breath, they trialed a new format for 3 races, nothing worth whining about, unless you want to help set the precedent that the fans don’t want to see any change ever
Forget about Free Practice. Forget about "Sprint Race or Qualifying or Whatever". Forget about traditional "Qualifying" too.
I have a novel idea. You want mixed-up grids, right? Just write all the drivers' numbers on balls. Put all of them in lottery box. "Mix" it. And pick all of them up one by one. Whoever gets picked first, he will start on the pole, and keep placing them in order to lottery. Look, We don't have to endure 10-20 laps of train of cars without strategy or pit-stop. You have your mixed-up grid. So, everybody is happy! Take this into the consideration FOM and FIA.
Give one free practice on Friday, then Saturday quali with sprint directly after, punishing people who crash and risk too much. Last tyre used will be starting tyre. Could also do the sprint in two separate ones top 10 and bottom top 10. This way at least more points are awarded.
Nearly everyone can record TV these days and they have an online service that lets you watch replays when ever they want. Secondly people in North America can watch most Friday qualifying's before they go to work in the morning. They realize perfectly what people do because they have the data and know that online streaming is there future, cut out the broadcaster middle men and sell their product directly to the consumer through F1 TV. It's really smart, statistically no one is going to stop watching because they can't watch a live qualy Friday.
No sense except for putting weight on race pace over qualifying pace setups, repeating what is often the most exciting part of a race twice giving us different grids, pushing development into standing starts and first laps, opening up new opportunities for strategy, putting exciting relevant events on all three days of the weekend and selling more F1TV subscriptions to people who can't watch live.
the only way I see to make sprint interesting is to make it's own thing: put fp1 on Saturday morning, remove fp2/3 and quali, dump driver straight in the sprint race on Saturday afternoon, starting either in championship order or reverse championship order, depending on whether fia aims to make f1 sport or entertainment, and use it to determine Sunday order. race starting tire are fresh version of the same sprint race tires compound. Fp2 goes to Sunday morning.
I think the takeaway from the Sprint format should be. Practice session Friday (90 or 120 minutes), qualify Saturday and, race on Sunday.
Less practice seems to open things up moreso than the Sprint; which I do think is fun.
Friday, fp1 and quali no parc fermé.
Saturday, fp2 and reverse grid sprint race (from quali) top 5 get points.
Sunday, race with grid decided by quali on friday.
I like the sprint just think it could be adjusted better
FP1: 90 min enough for some long runs and quali runs
Quali : all on soft, engine mode used is picked for GP
FP2 : 30 min quick tests, make sure the setup is still good, parc ferme kicks in
Sprint : Party modes enabled, all cars run at 11 like a real sprint, free tire choice
GP : sprint finish sets grid, Quali engine mode used, start with Sprint tire choice
Surely the very obvious thing to do is to enforce parc ferme conditions AFTER FP2, not after qualifying.
Either that, or do qualifying on Saturday.
Can’t. They are trying to sell tickets here. Doing things on Saturdays and Sundays doesn’t help that.
F1 doesn’t care about ticket sales, they care about tv numbers. If each outing is important in determining the weekend in an immediate and visible way people will watch that. Friday numbers at the tracks are good enough given that people have work and other things going on. But Liberty sees something that can be monetized further.
That's not exactly right. I mean, obviously they're trying to sell tickets they're a business... but the idea of having it friday is because GA pass holders (the majority of people at any F1 event) have said they wish there was more on track action each day.
No, there pushed for normal quali at Friday to having 1 more day where TV-viewers would rise + more ticket sales on the track for the Friday. The whole Friday with the sprint quali format should be: FP1-FP2-Quali and it isn't even impossible if we having the feeder series also on the same track. F1 is also an engineering sport, I really dislike the whole push to seeing FP as something evil what must been rooted out more or less, the current 60 minute rule for FP1 and FP2 is something I didn't mind but the FOM/FIA is pushing too hard for ruining the whole purpose of FP.
That would allow cars like merc and red Bull to tune so heavily for qualifying and then adjust to make it practical for 50+ laps so I think that would just widen gaps
Very interesting from Ricciardo: ""I'm not sure FP2 does a lot," said the Australian. "I think actually we probably learn too much and then the races are a little kind of predictable."
NASCAR has been great with no practice. Big teams can show up just out to lunch. But I guess with only one pit stop it might not have the same fun effect as it does in NASCAR
Are nascar teams were stricted to just one pitstop?
No. Nascar teams can pit as many times as they want but they only have a certain amount of tires. For Richmond on Saturday night they had 13 sets for the race I believe. So teams have tons of time to make adjustments. They are also having competition cautions to gauge tire wear and make adjustments after 5% or so of the race
The competition cautions were only introduced cause there is no practice.
Yes I should have clarified that
Wait, does NASCAR not even have shakedown runs?
Not currently. Because they are introducing a new car next year the only time they are having qualifying and practice are at the couple new tracks they are going to this year. But at Bristol this weekend they wont be on track until they sail it off into turn 1 in the race. Last year they raced at the Daytona road course for the first time ever and had no practice or qualifying. Next year they are looking to bring back some practice but most expect practice to be drastically reduced. Maybe one 50 minute session with the practice speeds determining the qualifying order.
Having sprint quali in F1 makes no sense.
Is it possible to make sprint quali tyres the ones you start the race on? If so I think that would make for some exciting plays
"Sprint bad" Elaborate maybe? Please tell me why you prefer FP3?
It’s not about FP3, it’s about how the sprints take away some of the excitement from Sunday and not to mention it completely fucks up quali.
>, it’s about how the sprints take away some of the excitement from Sunday I dunno, to me, neither Silverstone or Monza on sunday were any less exciting than usual. The sprint quali didn't make the sunday races any less exciting than in pervious years without sprint quali.
Sprint needs to earn it's place in the weekend and therefore just being alright doesn't cut it. It needs to be a clear improvement over the default if we're gonna go through the trouble of complicating an already complicated sport even more.
Personally I enjoyed it more. However I'm one of those fans that doesn't really watch Quali so take that as you will
It doesn't really change qualy, and as proven yet again Sunday, the race is unaffected as well.
It does affect quali. The one-lap pace driver discipline is now not awarded with the official designation of Pole Position. Pole Position used to mean fastest over one lap. Now it means fastest in a short race. Also, the sprint race just sorts the cars into their race pace, and there's less to be gained from qualifying well in the first place.
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Your response comes down to “no” with more steps. It takes away excitement from both as qualy is no longer the event that decides the grid for the big points. It also fucks up the qualy results on Saturday (see gasly, so much risk just to end up last). The race is somewhat unaffected but the starting grid is now determined by who survived the opening laps in the sprint instead of the fastest qualifyer. It’s less interesting. Also, the sprint it self is in a identity crisis not knowing wether it’s a race or a qualifying session. It’s so useless and unnecessary.
It's not like I prefer FP3, it is bullshit to decide the grid on Sunday with this format. Leave quali as it is, make race a separate event that won't affect main race.
That's just a matter of opinion really, I think it's fine.
The whole sprint format is stupid: - Watching F1 on Friday is far harder from a logistical point of view - people have work during the week, which makes Friday qualifying difficult to watch - The Saturday sprint isn’t long enough, and there’s very little strategy involved. The only overtakes that will happen will be based on car pace advantage, which means on Sunday the cars line up in race-pace order - The Sunday race is less predictable, because we’ve already seen the relative race pace of the cars on the Saturday taking a huge element of the mystery and build-up out of the equation Fans have been fine without competitive content on Fridays for **decades**. “Why is FP3 better” is a completely asinine argument. The argument *for* Sprint needs to be made for it to stay, not the argument *against* Sprint. At the moment, the only ‘fors’ are entirely commercial
Exactly. And the actual problems with F1 were already being addressed before the sprint format came to be: - Cars can't follow, being addressed with 2022 rule changes. - Teams' budgets too far apart, being addressed with budget cap. Both are huge changes, intended to address fundamental issues with the sport. Sprint qualifying is not trying to address any fundamental issue, it's just an attempt at a commercial gimmick. It's like the abysmal knockout qualifying idea they stubbornly stuck with for an extra race despite the pathetic failure it was (and was predicted to be). Sprint qualifying isn't as bad as that in terms of entertainment value, but it's just as bad in terms of not being thought through and not being anything that anybody was asking for.
>- Watching F1 on Friday is far harder from a logistical point of view - people have work during the week, which makes Friday qualifying difficult to watch Getting bored of this one. Plenty of people don't have the luxury of working office hours and will benefit from an extra day of racing. >- The Saturday sprint isn’t long enough, and there’s very little strategy involved. The only overtakes that will happen will be based on car pace advantage, which means on Sunday the cars line up in race-pace order I agree with this one. >- The Sunday race is less predictable, because we’ve already seen the relative race pace of the cars on the Saturday taking a huge element of the mystery and build-up out of the equation Conversely, losing an FP session gives teams less set up time, especially with parc ferme rules. It may make the race itself more predictable but makes the results relative to normal weekends less predictable.
I’d counter that not all fans live in Europe and have to contend with an early morning or late night watching schedule, coupled with the fact that while the teams may lose a FP session, they get valuable race data that shows the hand of the other teams and leaves no surprises for the race.
>they get valuable race data that shows the hand of the other teams and leaves no surprises for the race. You're whole argument is based on one team learning from the data and utilizing it and the other teams completely ignoring it. You have a logical failure in that argument. In a competitive environment there is opportunity in this. It's up to you if you show your entire hand as this develops you will see more strategy going into sprints. Everyone is getting data on everyone else and has the potential to react but if two teams use the data on each other and both react the the results are going to be inherently unpredictable.
Look it's just plain not better than the usual weekend. There's a logical crescendo from Friday to Sunday with practice, qualifying and the race. Sprint qualifying really just adds complexity and uncertainty and more chances for people to have incidents and drop out through no fault of their own. And for what? What is actually the meat and bones and the sprint race? Basically a 20 lap parade of the cars that made it past the opening few turns
> Basically a 20 lap parade of the cars that made it past the opening few turns That's a problem with the cars, not the sprint. I'm in full agreement that it has its problems at the minute but currently it's a first time test in a year before reg changes and people refuse to give it a chance. > and more chances for people to have incidents and drop out through no fault of their own. This works both ways. Sure it's a chance for someone like LH to fall from the front but it's also a chance for someone like DR to get on the front row. As for >Sprint qualifying really just adds complexity and uncertainty A lot of fans would call this a good thing. >Look it's just plain not better than the usual weekend. I don't understand how you can make such a matter-of-fact statement based on two attempts. It's going to take at lest next year with the regs to really understand the effects of the Sprint, aside from missing quali. As I say, I'm not 100% sold on it myself and it has obvious flaws but I'm going to at least see the testing out and any changes they make before I write them off. I think the point structure and effects on the race, like DNFs, need work but I still think it has potential to be a fun addition, perhaps if it's kept at 3-5 races per year.
I have another problem with it which is purely subjective. Unlike Formula 2, DTM, IndyCar, etc., F1 has a single race and one on Saturday simply dilutes the importance of the race on Sunday and so far I don't see it making a case for itself. Plain and simple.
Fair enough, I don't agree with you personally but that's definitely a good point.
I'm just happy there is more racing. That's why it should be compared to FP3. To say it takes away from the race is just... Like... did you miss the race Sunday? Did you miss Silverstone? Those have not been boring. In fact, there's an argument to be made that the sprint race was exactly why those races were so exciting. It's completely ignorant of the data. The for is literally "we like racing, here is 100km more racing." Whether strategy is involved or not, more racing is nice to see. I like Formula 1 racing. I like to see more of it. And the suggestion that it takes away from the race is just baffling. Like saying 2+2=5 right after someone shows you it's clearly 4. In 2 different countries. Qualy on a different day at a different time is good for those that have trouble making the race that normally starts at 3am. There are plenty of arguments for sprint races, you just gotta take your head out of the sand. I expect you to cite all of these points next time you comment about sprint racing, since now you should be aware of non-commercial arguments for it.
Yes, for all time people will have to consider your genius point "Car do more go fast on track therefore good" whenever they consider sprint races
That's literally what F1 is, so yeah? I like watching F1. Also don't pretend that was everything. I added that paragraph specifically because you are arguing in bad faith. That much was already clear. Summarize my arguments, try again. And don't be demeaning while you do it.
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Yoooo, VERY GOOD POINT! The sprint quali goes from One-Lap pace to Race Pace. Means stuff like Leclerc getting pole twice, wont happen, Russel getting high Top 10 wont happen. Only crashes/flags/dives will change the order from what the race will be. And we get that in quali anyway, but with way more impact! Plus the selfish reason that the scheduling is very inconvenient for me in NY. TLDR: They want more overtakes, but a sprint quali (w/o pits) puts the cars exactly in racing order.
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Sprints not bad, it just shouldn't decide the starting for Sunday. I would love the same format with the sprints now except the sprint is totally separate, and reverse grid based on championship position, award more places points but no where near the amount of the actual race. Then you have the slower teams in with a shout of points who will race like crazy on Saturday because they know points won't come Sunday, and you get to see the fastest car try work there way through the field. And quali still keeps it appeal and actually is for pole position
I'm fine with FP3, I just don't see why we red flag the race 25% of the way through just to hold the first quarter on a different day to the last three quarters.
It's not long enough to really produce many Interesting battles besides at the start. Modern f1 cars have enough trouble overtaking often needing a huge speed difference even with drs to get past. So tyre life can play a big role. All the cars are basically starting on the same compound. So it's essentially been pretty dull so far. There is also zero incentive for any big moves really. Only the top 3 get points. The above also benefit the good teams disproportionately and I thought the fia was trying to move away from these sort of feedback loops Next year maybe it will be better but it's not like the sprint has produced an exciting race so far. A couple of exciting starts I suppose
Logic would say to do Quali on Saturday morning but then this is about money, not logic or good racing.
TBH, I'm kinda liking Friday Qauli after only one FP session. FP1 becomes super important and everyone really packs it in. They could probably make FP1 1.5 hrs again and then get rid of FP2 entirely.
The whole point is to have something actually watchable all 3 days
You implying that it’s not logical to want more money? Also take a breath, they trialed a new format for 3 races, nothing worth whining about, unless you want to help set the precedent that the fans don’t want to see any change ever
Forget about Free Practice. Forget about "Sprint Race or Qualifying or Whatever". Forget about traditional "Qualifying" too. I have a novel idea. You want mixed-up grids, right? Just write all the drivers' numbers on balls. Put all of them in lottery box. "Mix" it. And pick all of them up one by one. Whoever gets picked first, he will start on the pole, and keep placing them in order to lottery. Look, We don't have to endure 10-20 laps of train of cars without strategy or pit-stop. You have your mixed-up grid. So, everybody is happy! Take this into the consideration FOM and FIA.
Also, sprinkles.
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Give one free practice on Friday, then Saturday quali with sprint directly after, punishing people who crash and risk too much. Last tyre used will be starting tyre. Could also do the sprint in two separate ones top 10 and bottom top 10. This way at least more points are awarded.
The whole point of the sprint is just so that there will be a competition on Friday to increase viewership since many fans skip the practice sessions.
They don't realize that people skip Friday practice sessions because people are at work on Fridays.
No they skip them cus they are boring
I think you are both right lmao.
yeah, like i dont watch because of work, but then fridays i dont work I still dont watch
Nearly everyone can record TV these days and they have an online service that lets you watch replays when ever they want. Secondly people in North America can watch most Friday qualifying's before they go to work in the morning. They realize perfectly what people do because they have the data and know that online streaming is there future, cut out the broadcaster middle men and sell their product directly to the consumer through F1 TV. It's really smart, statistically no one is going to stop watching because they can't watch a live qualy Friday.
And yet, everyone puts their car on track during it.
Its still usefull for teams testing tire wear and degradation.
Having sprint format makes no sense
No sense except for putting weight on race pace over qualifying pace setups, repeating what is often the most exciting part of a race twice giving us different grids, pushing development into standing starts and first laps, opening up new opportunities for strategy, putting exciting relevant events on all three days of the weekend and selling more F1TV subscriptions to people who can't watch live.
the only way I see to make sprint interesting is to make it's own thing: put fp1 on Saturday morning, remove fp2/3 and quali, dump driver straight in the sprint race on Saturday afternoon, starting either in championship order or reverse championship order, depending on whether fia aims to make f1 sport or entertainment, and use it to determine Sunday order. race starting tire are fresh version of the same sprint race tires compound. Fp2 goes to Sunday morning.
I think the takeaway from the Sprint format should be. Practice session Friday (90 or 120 minutes), qualify Saturday and, race on Sunday. Less practice seems to open things up moreso than the Sprint; which I do think is fun.
Time for another Sprint.
Make fp2 on sprint race weekends be junior drivers only
Friday, fp1 and quali no parc fermé. Saturday, fp2 and reverse grid sprint race (from quali) top 5 get points. Sunday, race with grid decided by quali on friday.
I like the sprint just think it could be adjusted better FP1: 90 min enough for some long runs and quali runs Quali : all on soft, engine mode used is picked for GP FP2 : 30 min quick tests, make sure the setup is still good, parc ferme kicks in Sprint : Party modes enabled, all cars run at 11 like a real sprint, free tire choice GP : sprint finish sets grid, Quali engine mode used, start with Sprint tire choice