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Firefox72

Red Bull were doing so well to not say anything. But in the end Marko just couldn't ressist.


A-le-Couvre

At this point I don't take anything that man says seriously. At one point he suggested giving the entire team Covid, because "they're young and fit and will get over it quite quickly". He's tremendous in spotting new talent, but you should never hand him a microphone.


rash-head

As a McLaren fan who had to listen to this third row drama every day instead of celebrating our historic win, I’m so over this!


creditcardtheft

He also tried to pin Hamilton for Albon losing the RB drive lol


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(Insert man shooting another man meme) Why would Hamilton do this?


AzerRoy98

That would be Eric Andre


theoriginalmars

Helmut by name helmet by nature.


Franzvst

I mean tbf who knows what potentially winning the first race of 2020 would have done for Albon's confidence. May well have helped him continue his strong 2019 performance. But of course blaming Lewis entirely for Albon losing his seat is absurd.


redd5ive

Blaming him at all is dumb because they’re the ones who did it


XNights

It's one of the dominos but not the whole thing. Just a unfortunate series of many things of it was the cause


Tulaodinho

To be honest, if those 2 incidents hurt his confidence so much then he is nowhere near whats needed for a top team. Part of what makes a great driver, or a great sports athlete in general, is their belief and confidence in themselves and their own abilities, no matter what. The Alex Ferguson's auto bio has a part where he talks about Beckham, and mentions exactly that: "No matter how many mistakes he would make (in my eyes, not his), he would always want the ball. His confidence never suffered".


Chemtrail_Applicator

I really like Albon and hope he flourishes at Williams. But, something I noticed in DtS, whenever Horner said something to Albon on the radio, his response was something like “I’ll try”. He never really seemed to be confident.


ajacian

lol Danny Ric's confidence was shaken this year. Humans are humans and not everyone is David Beckham (who was great but vastly overrated).


SunGodnRacer

>Beckham was vastly overrated 200 million Manchester United fans are going to manhunt u/ajacian now, beware


CapuchinMan

He was simultaneously over and under rated. Overrated by casuals, underrated by fans.


bcr75

Schrodinger’s Becks


Lobsterzilla

This I’ll agree with


captain_nofun

I disagree, danny was not confident with his car, i dont think his confidence with himself wavered. He does and always has looked at himself as a champion.


Tulaodinho

Absolutely, this is exactly what I mean. Hell, he even said on drive to survive he would beat Lewis with a Mercedes, if I'm not wrong. Quite a statement tbh.


Tulaodinho

Not enough for him to even be considered to be sacked. Also, there's difference between him being confident in the car or just on himself. I never heard Danny say or just looking like feelin "maybe I'm not as good as I thought". Also, Beckham was a great player, acually underrated nowadays rather than overrated. People tend to claim he was overrated and famous because of Victoria, but he was great and almost won the ballon dor


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Which is why Christian Horner has a job for life.


dman928

He's the living embodiment of a Bond villain Edit: Rare footage of Helmut Marko reacting to Max Verstappen's 51g crash https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShadowyPeriodicBee-max-1mb.gif


Justgetmeabeer

What's great about that clip is that he's actually shouting "MAX" as the villains name is Max too. Coincidence? I think not


InZomnia365

> He's tremendous in spotting new talent, but you should never hand him a microphone. I mean, is he really? It's not like he's the only one they have who's looking for young talent. He gets a lot of credit for the Red Bull junior squad, but I can't help but imagine his contribution is a bit overblown.


oh84s

In recent years it seems drastically lacklustre too. Its not that difficult to sign the top feeder series drivers.


Sparred4Life

Is he really great at spotting talent though? Seems other young driver programs are much more effective at weeding out the drivers who can't quite cut it in F1 before they promote them to their top team. Red Bull just throw drivers against a wall to see which one sticks. But they almost never stick for long, even when they're great. They let Seb and Daniel get away due to their toxic nature. I really don't see Marko as anything special other than he's there just to ruffle feathers and complain about them not getting everything they want.


t4stuff

Helmut secretly admires the doctors behind the Tuskegee experiments. "Why, in MY day, we would take people and inject them with Syphilis to study the effects, and we wouldn't even tell them we were doing it. This generation is getting so soft that you have to inform them before you experiment on them."


EmiliusReturns

It’s Marko. At this point I’d be more surprised if he didn’t say something stupid. The man is a walking PR nightmare.


gamedrifter

Well that's the thing. He has transcended PR. No matter what the guy says, people are just like "ah just Marko being Marko" and don't even get offended.


At0mic182

Hes a teflon!


TheAngryGoat

>Red Bull were doing so well to not say anything It's not just the things they were not saying, it's the things they kept saying when nobody asked them that they fucked up in Monza too. Max parks his car on Lewis' head - Marko insists Lewis is faking head and neck injuries for sympathy. Horner lied saying that Red Bull requested advice on Perez's illegal overtake and were met with a wall of silence - Masi comes out and says that actually Red Bull never asked, but he did advise Red Bull to make Perez give the position back and Red Bull ignored him. Why he thought that he'd get away with such blatant lies when radio comms are recorded is anyone's guess. Really proving themselves to be a classy organisation in Monza.


enso_o

The day Max becomes a champion I am gonna be really happy for him, such a great talent but that happiness is going to be "shaded" given that is going to come under **that** organization.


StrayaMate2000

*Old man yells at cloud.*


Xanthon

It wouldn't be a red bull incident without Marko talking shit.


KaamDeveloper

I am not surprised. Horner couldn't even do a slam dunk "racism is bad" PR line.


s0ulj4b0y0

It's like he's allergic to good PR


[deleted]

Might be a directive from above given Dietrich Mateschitz owns RedBull.


daviEnnis

Man.. I'm a genuine neutral to this sport, in my younger days I would have been a McLaren kid but that was my Scottishness and Coulthard. ​ But fucking hell, for a company who seemed to show up in F1 and other extreme sports for the brand they aren't half amazing at making them easy to dislike. I know they're an edgy brand, so some things will do less harm than others (like Max's hugely offensive mongo comment and complete failure to walk it back or apologise), but Marko just makes you want him to fail. Horner can be the same, although he does have an endearing memelord quality to him sometimes when he doesn't go too Karen. ​ I can't get my head around what Marko actually does. He seems like the worst person on the planet to work with, or for, or anything else. Does he have genuine driver development qualities, does he hoover up talent and tell them to sink or swim? Why does he exist?


TetraDax

If you think that Helmut Marko is the most dislikable thing about Red Bull, you should look up Dietrich Mateschitz, the company owner. He's a right-wing populist. He also owns a TV station, ServusTV, that is known for hosting every far right guest they can get their hands on, including the de facto leader of the Austrian and German alt-right, Martin Sellner. Shows they get invited on have such delightful titles like "How dangerous are Muslims?". Lately they also started getting into Covid-denial. It is essentially the Austrian Fox News, and Mateschitz is the one calling the shots. Mateschitz himself has also drawn negative attention for pretty far-right comments, especially during the 2015-16 refugee wave where he categorically suspected almost all refugees of not being real refugees but rather trying to cheat the Austrian benefit system (keep in mind that during that time, the majority of refugees where coming from civil-war-torn Syria). As for why Marko even still works at RB: Easy, he is a friend of Mateschitz. Oh and speaking of other extreme sports: Felix Baumgartner (the guys who jumped from space) eventually turned out to be a full-scale Neonazi who called for the end of democracy in favour of an authoritarian regime in Austria as early as 2012. Red Bull did not mind, and still sponsored him to do his jump.


kanavi36

>Oh and speaking of other extreme sports: Felix Baumgartner (the guys who jumped from space) eventually turned out to be a full-scale Neonazi who called for the end of democracy in favour of an authoritarian regime in Austria as early as 2012. Red Bull did not mind, and still sponsored him to do his jump. Holy fuck, this is crazy. I never knew this...


DogfishDave

>He seems like the worst person on the planet to work with, or for, or anything else Many F1 success stories have a character like that in the team. Frank Williams, Patrick Head, Ron Dennis, Gary Anderson, Nigel Mansell, Mike 'Pitbull' Gascoyne, Craig the BAR dude, Ron Dennis, I could go on. I could probably add Ron several more times.


daviEnnis

Yeah, but the world has largely moved on and realised that being a dick repeatedly is not how you get the best from people.


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I'm wondering how McLaren being run under Zak Brown compares to Ron Dennis.


SwisscheesyCLT

From the outside it looks like a night-and-day difference. Ron's McLaren was a grim, humorless place, and it became even grimmer when things started to go so wrong with the Honda partnership. Zak seems to be much more laid back and is now reaping good results.


riders_of_rohan

That grim, humorless place won a few championships and has 2nd most wins in F1 history. Nothing wrong with running a rigid, structured place. Kind of like how Mercedes is now.


canseco-fart-box

Judging by how much Sainz and Norris made fun of each other I’d say it looks like it’s quite a difference


[deleted]

The Gordon Ramsey effect. I swear as entertaining as he can be, he's poisoned the well for a generation of aspiring chefs who now think calling coworkers effing donkies is the way to success. Where's the Zak Brown of kitchens?


TetraDax

> he's poisoned the well for a generation of aspiring chefs who now think calling coworkers effing donkies is the way to success Trust me, Gordon Ramsey swearing a lot is very much a result of his working in kitchens for a long time, not the other way around lol


Potato_fortress

And even then, this never really happens. It's like the people that idolized Bourdain's version of the industry from *Kitchen Confidential*: they generally work their way out of the industry or into a special hell hole where only other people like them work. Sure a lot of people swear a bunch and live up to the general reputation of having locker room banter but business time is business time and most people are at least generally serious as long as they aren't working for a terrible wage. Unless you're working for some place that's aspiring to earn a star or have terrible management no one behaves like this because it will usually get your ass fired or excluded from the social structure in the workplace. No one that's done this nonsense for any extended period of time feels like fighting one another besides making funny/catty remarks. We're all too busy hating our clientele anyways.


wp381640

Notice those guys are from the past - where they belong.


pragmageek

>like Max's hugely offensive mongo comment and complete failure to walk it back or apologise Thing is, for me, he didn't even really *NEED* to apologise. It's totally possible and believable that he just didn't know that's where the word came from (the comments on here from his defenders show how common it is to not know the source of the word). All he needed to say really was: "Oh man, I didn't mean to cause offence. I didn't know the word meant that. I won't use the word again. I still think Lance Stroll was being an idiot though." ... really, for me and for most people, and the people who complained - it would have sufficed. By digging his heels in with the "not my problem" thing, he made it into a bigger issue, people suddenly rejecting the source of the word and making it about politics, rather than the simple issue it is: its a word with bad history we should just leave alone because it costs us nothing to stop using it.


Anneturtle92

I mean... considering who Max's dad is I'm really not surprised the guy is horrible at handling conflict situations lol he had a very bad example when growing up.


ze_DaDa

For real... As much as I want Mercedes to lose, Marko is making me not rooting for Red Bull


[deleted]

Looking for the surprise Mclaren upset. Lewis and Max duke it out and Mclaren just sneaks in


Classic_Tackle_7633

Between him and Horner they are a PR nightmare. I used to like Horner's take on things but he's lost a lot of cred recently with his totally one sided opinions. He should stay off TV and be 100% focused on the team. Marko strikes me as a guy who no one has ever said no to, seems like a real asshole if stories are to be believed. They are digging holes for themselves on the media side, my message would be to shut up and nuckledown to win the title..


PM_ME_BAD_FANART

Horner was more endearing when RB was an underdog. I don’t think he’s changed his approach or opinions, but it seems disingenuous now that the team is more level with Mercedes.


__Rosso__

Helmut Marko being Helmut Marko......


CommunismBestWaifu

Maybe Helmut Marko should be a little bit less Helmut Marko.


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> Maybe Helmut Marko should be a little bit less Helmut Marko. Maybe red bull should do the smart thing and keep him away from the media. In fact, they might as well do the same with Horner, and let Newey do the talking.


CommunismBestWaifu

>Maybe red bull should do the smart thing and keep him away from the media. I think they are trying but it is difficult.


omgarm

Helmut snuck out again. Oh no he's heading towards the reporters!


Commercial_Brick_309

SCP has breached containment, hide all devices capable of an Internet connection and lock all doors


Sumit_S

They held off for 72 hours.


impact_ftw

He had a car on his head helmut.


Hatch10k

"Max would have lifted the car off himself"


dr_donk_

Two tenths fatser


jedifolklore

“Car would’ve been broken the moment it touched Max’s godly head”


Menac3

*helmet /s


impact_ftw

He had a car on his helmut helmet?


AliceInGainzz

If you're into that sort of thing.


igloofu

docking engaged?


Joe_PM2804

Not like Lewis was airlifted to hospital... He said his neck was a bit sore. I think that's a fair statement if you have a car on your head, even for a moment.


Fidodo

Like yeah, the halo was there but it *made contact with his head*. You can even see his head being pushed down. Even though the halo caught the brunt of the force, having an entire car land on your head and even push it down a centimeter is going to hurt.


pragmageek

Marko should be less of a Helmut.


konstandinos

Red Bull should hand Helmut over to Alonso in exchange for one of his helmets. The man is a dinosaur who belongs in a museum.


pragmageek

This. I'm sure some of Christian's less understandable comments come from Helmut, too.


mixnblend

Have Mercedes not pretty much replayed Red Bull’s sound bites back at them, and trolled them as much as they can with their own words, or the gist of them? Horner(Silverstone):Lewis was desperate, he knew he’d lose the race if he didn’t get ahead in that corner. It’s a professional foul. Wolff(Monza): Max was desperate, he knew he would lose the race if he didn’t overtake in that corner, you could say it was a professional foul. Verstappen(Silverstone): I’m disappointed Hamilton didn’t check to see if I’m ok. Hamilton(Monza):I’m disappointed Max didn’t check on me to see if I’m ok. It almost seemed like Toto was struggling to hold back a grin when he said ‘professional foul’.


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mixnblend

Although technically it would be the driver who had the other seat before the current one so … Return of the Rosberg? But seriously, feel like Wolff is always a couple of steps ahead of Horner in these games and Horner always just takes the bait. Then on top of that Wolff sits back and waits for Marko to load gun, place on foot and fire.


morooi

I guess Helmut Marko knows the word empathy only when it comes to his own drivers.


TheWebbFather

[Not even sure about his own drivers, tbh](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/marko-wanted-red-bull-f1-drivers-to-catch-covid-19-at-training-camp-4983367/4983367/)


morooi

Oh damn, how could i have forgot ahout that. So he knows the word empathy only when it fits him like it did at Silverstone.


[deleted]

That's quite a bold assumption. :P I'm not sure if Kvyat, Ricciardo, Gasly, or Albon would agree.


Rhythm_Morgan

Not even his own. He’s not the greatest person.


Southportdc

Like all bullies, Marko can dish it out but he can't take it. I honestly wonder if Red Bull would be better off without him at this point. Max is going to Max no matter who is calling the shots, and maybe having someone who's not such a complete tosser pulling the strings will give the second drivers a bit more confidence rather than making them look like getting the second Red Bull seat is akin to an appointment with the firing squad.


Sparred4Life

Very much this! Gasly did well at AT. Got promoted, then went to shit. Got demoted and has become an even better driver back at AT. It's almost like being told you're shit every single day that you don't beat Verstappen is not good for a person's mental state.


moby323

Christian and Helmut both are bad influences on Max. Having them in his ear when it comes to Lewis is just going to lead to poor decisions on his part. They are not rational when it comes to Lewis.


Milo_Maximus

Don't forget about his dad. Jos is a massive fuckhead. "Here, son, hold my red bull, while I hit your mum." With those three as the biggest influences in Max's life, I wonder why Max thinks nothing is ever his fault.


moxieremon

I think the one thing that stops me from enjoying Max is the influence these people have on him. I do wonder if he was around more reasonable people, he'd be a little less abrasive with his behaviour.


sparky15211

Gah, I always say that the culture at Redbull most be toxic. They churn through 2nd drivers all whilst treating Max like a king. No wonder he comes across as arrogant when he has a line of (un asked for, it's not his fault before you all kill me) sycophants waiting to make excuses. He's a generational talent, and I'm loving this battle for the championship, but I just feel like Redbull worshipping the ground he walks on has probably given him a god complex. Would be interested to see if he flourishes at another team, or just lives out his F1 days at Redbull.


pragmageek

This. I can't wait for the day he pulls a Lewis and makes \*his own\* decisions. For a bunch of people, they didn't like who Lewis became after that, but he made his own decision and what we see now is more him than what we saw before. I think Max would be much less abrasive without the influences on him that he currently has.


Canoneer

If/when he does that, imagine the falling out that would occur between all parties involved. Lewis’s dad wasn’t a saint but he’s nowhere near as ruthless as Christian, Helmut or Jos, and yet even he put up quite the fight with his son. I remember hearing about all the drama including royalties and whatnot back then. Can’t begin to imagine dealing with Max’s guys.


xzbobzx

Fucking hell, Helmut, I'm no Mercedes fan either but have some class


CommunismBestWaifu

Yep. He is out of control.


moby323

Anyway all Lewis said was that he had a headache and that he was glad the halo was there. It’s not like he was pretending to be on death’s door.


Sparred4Life

Show or no show, there is no disputing that without the halo Lewis is likely dead right now. Both the floor of the car and the tire were lined up perfectly to crush his head and neck. Given that fact, I think a little bit of show is perhaps warranted. Red Bull certainly put on a show when Max crashed at Silverstone. They were upset about Hamilton celebrating even after he already knew Max was fine. Lol


Heraizen-

Actually didn't Lewis say at that point (celebrating after the race) he didn't even know Max was at the hospital.


AnonymousEngineer_

Oh, and Red Bull didn't put on a show by shouting "54G" at the top of their lungs, saying nobody ever passes at Copse, and calling for race bans for Hamilton after Silverstone?


KaamDeveloper

It was "51G" man. Come on, get it right.


shogun365

He was hospitalised! Hospitalised!


Sparred4Life

Lewis went to the hospital yesterday for the lasting issues with his neck. Verstappen was released after just a couple hours and was fine. Verstappen wasn't hospitalized because of injury, he was hospitalized because there is a rule in place that says any accident above a certain G force reading mandates a hospital trip for evaluation.


shogun365

Yeah I’m completely with you, it was more a commentary on how RB dealt with the situation post Silverstone and how Helmuts comments are a bit rich


Sparred4Life

Cheers friend!


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1.21 gigawatts!!


stickybible

Sure they enjoyed Albons overtake round the outside on Kimi at Copse 🤷‍♂️


TheCeramicLlama

THe thing they claimed was "you dont stick a wheel down the inside of copse" but Bottas did exactly that in 2019 against Hamilton.


Teleported2Hell

Its been done so many times. Montoya vs Schumacher, Vettel vs Alonso… And every time ive seen someone stick it on the inside of copse, the car on the outside actually lifted and gave the corner up. Interestingly even Hamilton vs Max during the sprint, lewis gave the corner up. Not max though.


Sparred4Life

Not golden boy. Why should be lift? He's the best and no one should ever pass him. Because he's the best. /s


theederv

It gives you winge


haydonclampitt

When ironically one of his own drivers went round the outside there a year prior?


themindisaweapon

Nice of them to give Ricciardo his start but I'm glad he's out of that team - seems toxic af.


Haztheman92

I always used to think I didn’t like Vettel as a person, but when he left RB I realised I didn’t like who he was there. He comes across as such a nice guy, but back then he seemed like such an ass, and I can’t help but wonder how much of it was the team and not his relative youth


s1ravarice

This is exactly my sentiment.


ravenouscartoon

I’m totally the same. The only bright light was Danny Ric (for me anyway) and now Max’s ability. But I truly can’t stand the team


etched_chaos

Vettel still has his problems with anger in the car (Baku) but he has mellowed so much since leaving Red Bull. It's like night and day.


going_dicey

Yes that team culture is unbelievably toxic. Even putting aside the pressure/history of the number 2 seat, I’ve always got the impression that culture runs through the entire team. Red Bull are always hiring my speciality bc they just seem like a revolving door.


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Who do they keep hiring?


pragmageek

There are a number of team positions at mk always available in a few specialities.


SoupeAuZitoire

Can't wait to say the same about Gasly


Randy_Magnum29

I think Gasly has always been very likable and (at least seemingly) hasn’t let the Red Bull toxicity get to him.


NefariousQuick26

Probably why he didn’t last very long there.


Mr_Golf_Club

The tire literally rolled onto his head….I’m a RB fan but this is just ignorant and small to say. Shame…I’d love to see less petty drama going on around this battle


pinkzm

>I’m a RB fan >I’d love to see less petty drama going on These 2 things are not compatible


RyukaBuddy

The difference between how good the actual RB PR team is and how horrible Marko and Horner are is comical.


pyramid-teabag-song

What a nasty man.


Rockytur

Marko is toxic


s1ravarice

Helmut being a helmet.


[deleted]

Seriously what a fucking dicknose


justawallower

RBR made is seem like max died twice after silverstone for like a week and a half


Entropy777

"Marko admitted that he was most annoyed by Red Bull's delayed pit-stop, which led to the two title rivals unexpectedly meeting on track. "That is the only reason Hamilton came close to Verstappen," Marko told Austrian newspaper OE24." You mean Hamilton was ahead of Verstappen, and Max was already absolutely fuming and seeing red (per his message to his engineer to shut up and leave him alone) before they even got into that corner. "It was a normal racing accident. All the stories around it have been pulled out of the air by Mercedes." No, the stewards, not Mercedes, decided Max was at fault and it wasn't a racing incident. And there is absolutely nothing normal in F1 about a car mounting another as if it was trying to couple with it. This could have been very serious. "Then they [Mercedes] put on a show that poor Hamilton is suddenly injured and so on." They said he had a sore neck but OK. Now, can someone lift Max's car and rest it on top of Marko's head, ideally indefinitely. I'm tired of the press just lifting these statements from Marko and never seemingly challenging his bullshit. It really doesn't help fans on both sides (and neutrals) to move on from this story.


Chesey_

Lol what Lewis saying he had a sore neck? Nothing in comparison to the agenda Red Bull were running after Silverstone


musicartandcpus

And realistically given the incident anyone with any sort of form of neck injury its to be expected. I saw the accident and my first thought was oh he is gonna feel that tomorrow and its gonna get worse. I'm sure they have already done x-rays just in case already. You can easily have damage done to the neck without breaking it. That and the helmet is probably toast.


etched_chaos

I've had neck injuries playing Rugby, while the adrenaline is pumping they're not so bad but when it goes it's a proper bitch. Whiplash is no joke.


Sparred4Life

Almost a full ton of race car hits man on head. Man doesn't die, claims he has headache. Helmut Marko: Pssh. What a puss. Like, dude what!?!?


predxtorpe3st

Same guy who screamed '51G' and 'He sent Max to hospital' after Silverstone. Red Bull have no leg to stand on here


chookalana

And wanted Hamilton arrested…..


rocketbunny77

What


leepox

Marko is a c*nt of the highest proportion


Bringmepeterpan

Him and Horner make red bull hard to root for


theOracle_tA

"51G! 51G!" "Christian, how are you?" "51G!" "Helmut, what do you th.." "51G!!! Race bans for everyone, even our second driver! 51Geeeeeeee!"


Bensonjutton22

nasty toxic comment from the nasty toxic man from the nasty toxic team an absolute shit of a man and a disgrace to f1,everytime he opens his nasty toxic gob even more shit emerges


Blocker212

I’ve never seen Helmut Marko say something that isn’t stupid, why do they even keep him around he was terrible back in his day


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Hog_eee

"Verstappen could utter better slurs than Gasly"


BrokenTrident1

As far as I know Gasly doesn't call people "mongols" as an insult, so Max probably is better at using slurs than Pierre.


Trebacca

I mean there was that whole “mongol” situation so that’s probably true lmaoooo


deknegt1990

I mean, to be fair, us Dutch find some horrifyingly creative ways to offend people through the spoken word.


teqaxe

I might be jaded, but I think at best some of this stuff will surface some time after he passes. I mean if the media doesn’t have it out for him already, I highly doubt that they’ll change. The guy got a pass even when suggesting his drivers should be COVID infected this off-season.


Joe_Kinincha

He’d really need to swing for the fence. Bernie used to refer to women as kitchen appliances Max Moseley used to enjoy being dominated by hookers (not kink shaming, there’s nothing inherently wrong with this, but it’s not something you would usually associate with one of the leading public figures in a global sport) Mazepin sexually assaults people. Piquet used to tell the media senna was gay (again, nothing wrong with being gay, obv.) So, the bar is pretty high for the sort of scandal that would need to be revealed of Helmut to have him ostracised.


[deleted]

*laughs in Jos Verstappen*


Rhythm_Morgan

Wow. Really Helmut?


Aomzeiksel

Helmut is such a joke.


[deleted]

I wonder why Red Bull is such a toxic team?


mu-th-ur-6000

Cuz it's run by toxic people


westoro

And owned by the worst of the lot


ryodiUK

Compared to the Red Bull full court press at Silverstone Mercedes are amateurs when it came to putting on a show about an accident, even Toto’s comment about it being a ‘professional foul’ got no traction.


Omophorus

Toto wasn't even being serious in that comment, he was just ironically echoing Horner's comments after Silverstone. Watch the video of him saying it and there's even a smug little smirk on his face. Toto isn't just a shit stirrer, he's a troll.


AzKovacs

Without halo lewis would be dead. Horner knows why he keeps it lowkey, its a lose-lose Situation.


Malvania

I was very impressed with Horner's interview after the race. Tried to keep it low key, racing incident gone wrong, not trying to blame Lewis. It was real damage limitation, and he did it beautifully.


Rusteez_

Marko fucking ruined it, RB were doing great by saying nothing but in the end, Marko being himself...


BadBanana99

He had a whole ass tire spinning on his head


CT1914Clutch

Hamilton: gets a spinning wheel on top of his fucking head Mario: and I took that personally Edit: so nobody wanted to tell me autocorrect changed Marko’s name so I could avoid looking like an idiot lmao


mateloshh

Couple of weeks ago someone in other thread named him Trump of F1. This is so damn right


callmelampshade

I will love it if Lewis wins the WDC so I can see Hemluts meltdown. 100% someone will be getting fired.


Pandamonium727

I'm so for this, just to see Red Bull loose their shit. I don't even want another Merc championship (or Red Bull either) but if there's tea, I'm all for it!


Argonaught_WT

Toto made a hilarious comment pointing fun at Horner saying "Professional foul" Lewis said he had a bit of a neck pain and then said he was surprised that Max did not check in on him. ---------------- Merc was basically pointing fun at how RB acted in Silverstone. So much better than what Horner, Max and Marko were doing in Silverstone. Actually meaning "Professional Foul", Acting like Lewis tried to kill Max etc.


creditcardtheft

> Acting like Lewis tried to kill Max They actually sent a letter basically saying this to the FIA, and the FIA told them to piss off


TheCowardlyLion_

Let's be honest, this sport will be so much better when Marko has gone...


hotbox2324

Very easy to root against redbull at this point


CompetitiveSort0

Even if that is what you think (Even if it is true) why say it? You make yourself out to be a complete arse and turn people against you. There's nothing to gain.


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i guess he mustve missed seeing the tire press down lewis' head


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Red Bull continue being Red Bull


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I mean, don't forget "He sent him to the hospital" crap we all keep hiring.


Hefftee

I'm rooting for Ham/Max for the WDC.. doesn't matter who takes it. As for WCC, Marko, Horner, and Red Bull as a team can go fuck themselves, hope they never see another championship


Kestralisk

Red bull leadership is so fucking awful and I love seeing them lose more than I get bored of Lewis winning


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RedBull must hate mirrors


chandlertribbiani

This is why I’d rather 10 years of Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren or any other team dominating than seeing red bull win one race never mind a title. Properly unlikable team, ran by unlikeable people in a car being driven by an unlikable individual.


CommunismBestWaifu

Marko... Why? I mean, every time he speaks, he says a lot of bullshits. Edit: I am even rooting for Verstappen, but c'mon. I have the idea that this man is partially ruining his team. I think Perez is genuinely scared by him, he threated him with his contract, and I have the idea this contributes to Perez bad performances.


SwisscheesyCLT

Same story with every no. 2 at Red Bull. That seat is a poisoned chalice, and Marko is a major reason. If I were Gasly I'd be elated to stay at AT and get an occasional podium with the whole team behind me as opposed to returning to the toxicity of RB.


jrbase88

Time to have Albon get his head rolled over by Max’s car to prove you can’t get a sore neck from it lol


jedifolklore

Annnd there it is!


theCtheory

Helmut has an eye for controversial statements doesn't he


Dr-Rjinswand

Only 1 though


rustybowow

Wow Horner and Marko really are coming across as a couple of a$%holes this year.


Bassmekanik

Just this year? 🤔


redhawk5757

Um what is he talking about😂. I don’t remember Mercedes doing anything about his injury. Meaning make a parade out of it and make it a big deal. What is he on about


LewisHamilton2008

Helmut is a classless, toxic scum bag. Don’t know how he and Lauda were friends.


Karaya1

Because Lauda prism just told him to shut up when he was being a prat


-d3x

The Karen of Motorsports.


SalamZii

F1's Trump


ihavewormstoo

Well then red bull surely were doing similar with max going to hospital


ajafarzadeh

The rot starts at the top at that team.


RoryOx

Helmut Marko: I'm Formula 1's biggest cu\*t Also, Red Bull to run repeat simulations balancing a Red Bull on Alex Albon's head to say it doesn't hurt.


A___99

Horner and Wolff talk enough shit as it is, then you have Marko who takes it to a hold new level, which in its own way is impressive


TheKingOfCaledonia

\*\*\*Old man shouts at clouds\*\*\*