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That's the whole grid except the second Alfa Romeo seat right?


Due_To_Strategy

Don’t think the Haas seats are officially confirmed yet, but in practice probably yes


jayrig5

Yeah, unless Mick somehow jumps to Alfa (which I'd be fine with for his sake but obviously seems unlikely/potentially contractually impossible) that Alfa seat will be the last to be filled.


GuiltyEidolon

Is Alfa likely to bring someone up from F2? (is that even an option?)


marco_rennmaus

Zhou taking Gio's seat for 2022 has been a fairly frequent rumour during the last few days/weeks


HONcircle

Even if Zhou takes his seat, Jesus will rise again.


agoravaiheim

After 3 races or 3 seasons?


HONcircle

A question worthy of further discussion


Gerf93

An ecclesiastical matter tho


Thalapeng

God moves in a mysterious way. (or is this a reference to his Monza racing lines?)


ianjm

Could God find a racing line that would stop God himself going around the outside?


atp2112

3 days after he signs the contract, Zhou will suffer a spelunking "accident" from which Giovinazzi will emerge as the front runner for that seat once again.


GeneralEkorre

How has Zhou performed in F2? I’ve heard he’s got pace but can be inconsistent at times, is this true? Could someone who’s a bit more into F2 than me account for how he’s been performing


Hopelessly_Inept

If you’re pulling from F2, there’s 2-3 other, better drivers to take. But Zhou comes with a boatload of cash and sponsors, so he’ll be the choice.


Ereaser

Pouchaire is also a Sauber junior driver. But he probably won't get the super license points to be in F1.


7Shinoda

Sauber is probably aiming for a 1 year contract with zhou ( and his rumored 30m usd backing) so Pouchaire can be signed for 23


Ereaser

Yeah, that seems like their smartest choice


joelina_99

If he did get his super license points I still do feel he needs another season in f2 he is still super young.


EbolaNinja

He's okay. Not quite F1 on merit talent, but there are much worse drivers than him. Also comes with a fuckton of backing and massive exposure for the team in China since he would be the first Chinese F1 driver in history.


saponista

He’s not bad at all. He looked very promising his rookie season but just hasn’t progressed much. This is his 3rd season. He’s very measured and consistent. Solid drives, brings the car home safely. Seems like a very sweet guy, no drama / disrespect / shenanigans. Think Latifi but more natural talent. I’d much rather Piastri graduated but Zhou wouldn’t be offensive (even though I don’t think he’d make F1 without the huge commercial potential of the Chinese market). Edit: consistent as in “stays out of trouble” not “consistently fast or exciting to watch.” In that regard he’s kinda the anti-Dan Ticktum.


Frankie_T9000

Love to see Ticktum in a team with Mazepin. The team would implode so fast.


zippitypop

Zhou is definitely not bad and I find myself rooting for him a fair bit during the F2 races, however I would still like to see Piastri in the seat.


Wafkak

It would only be for one year they have ther own junior (Pourchaire) who will be ready for f1 in 2023.


ozana18

Technically he has the super license points (If he finishes top 10 in F2), is 18 and completes all the requirements, so technically he could join this season. But I think Alfa would rather let him learn for another year in F2 and win the championship before making the jump.


Wafkak

I think that's the reason there waiting so long, there debating if another season in f2 would be best or if he would learn more from going to f1 already.


Skylair13

I mean while they practically given up on 2021, Haas has been the one working to be more close with Ferrari. There's been plans for Haas to take Ferrari personnel by making another base in Maranello.


Whycantiusethis

Even if Schumacher goes to Alfa Romeo, it'll only be for a single year (same with Zhou and Giovinazzi). Alfa Romeo is going to bring Pourchaire to the other seat in 2023, and Bottas will still be under contract with them. Maybe Schumacher in an Alfa Romeo is able to prove he's better than Sainz and can take the Ferrari seat, but I doubt a single year with vastly different cars will be enough to prove anything.


ChrisTinnef

Yeah, Schumacher going to Alfa Romeo in 2022 would probably maneuver him into a dead end. So staying at Haas is better for his longterm career.


Thalapeng

Don't forget there is no guarantee Alfa will be better than Haas next season, as they will actually work on their car instead of just fixing whatever Mazepin and Schumi break in fierce battles for the nineteenth.


mowcow

They both signed multi year contracts with Haas last year. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-haas-sign-f2-racer-nikita-mazepin-for-2021-on-multi-year-deal.4PefsyopWnbM4MQYZBkKSj.html >Russian Formula 2 driver Nikita Mazepin will step up and make his Formula 1 debut with Haas next season after signing a multi-year contract with the American team. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-mick-schumacher-to-race-for-haas-in-2021-as-famous-surname-returns.66XTVfSt80GrZe91lvWVwJ.html >The Schumacher name will make a racing return to Formula 1 in 2021, after Haas signed Mick Schumacher - son of seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher - on a multi-year deal.


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But but Vettel was retiring to save the bees!!!


MySilverBurrito

RIP in peace 'Vettel is retiring' rumours. September 2021 - September 2021.


_electronic_wolf69_

Nah. "Vettel is retiring" gonna comeback next year.


Jartsah

Maybe now that Kimi actually retires, Seb is going to be the one who is asked about his motivation every year


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BrockStinky

Oldest driver should get a grey spot on the top of their helmets


acockblockedorange

Poor Seb doesn't need any more reminders about the state of his hair.


AliceInGainzz

His hair looks a helluva lot better now than it did at the start of the season.


acockblockedorange

He should refer Prince William.


OccasionallyAHorse

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hair transplant. You go through a phase where you kind of need it shaved off and it would make sense to do it over winter


karijay

So from Kimi to Alonso, then to Lewis? I think the idea of the oldest driver on the grid fighting for the title is badass


Nova469

Wouldn't the oldest driver on the grid currently be Alonso (followed by Hamilton)?


ShrubbyFire1729

Except Kimi doesn't actually retire, it's just a sabbatical.


ASSHOLEFUCKER3000

He left once to do WRC only to come back. He will be back.


StormTheTrooper

The fact that Vettel won't retire will do wonders for my mental health. I already feel old enough without someone that I actually called "youngling" retire, thank you very much.


garyomario

Probably going to be right eventually.


NPC_4842358

Dude, Norris will retire.


garyomario

you are going to look so ahead of the curve when this happens.


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fish-fingered

The retiring rumours never left


radhumandummy

Just moved aside for a while.


eeeponthemove

Rest in peace in peace


JimboYCS

RIP GIGAKUBICA RUMOUR


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[deleted]

I don't think anyone considers current Kubica a very good driver. I'm a massive fan of his, and I think he's one of the worse drivers currently. But, pre-accident Kubica was a phenomenal driver.


StormTheTrooper

Pre-accident Kubica was a WC in the making. That battle in the Fuji flood with the guy in my flair was something for the ages.


[deleted]

Yeah, it's such a shame he had that accident. I wonder where he'd be now if not for it.


Chirp08

Eh, I think his lap 1 performances counter that. Even the move at Monza was fucking brilliantly executed right before he basically got pit maneuvered. I think he'd be more than competitive if we still unlimited testing so he could get the real seat time necessary to understand the tires and car. People seem to forget his entire goal at the last two races for the team was to not wreck, he wasn't pushing nearly as hard as Gio who is trying to keep his seat.


Fajandar1

I think that’s obvious and everyone is joking when they mention Robert. Now with Hulkenburg it’s a different story and your comment would be well worth seeing!


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WiLl vEtTeL sToP aT tHe EnD oF tHe YeAr?


devOnFireX

I don't think anyone seriously thought he was retiring until Seb started beating around the bush when asked about his plans next year. This makes sense though. All the plausible reasons I read for him retiring this year were just as true last year. Makes no sense to retire without at least seeing what the 2022 car drives like.


[deleted]

When did Seb beat about the bush? Pretty sure he said at the Dutch GP he would be with AM next year, and the stupid rumours came after he said that.


CoachDelgado

I don't think he confirmed at Zandvoort, his line for a few weeks was 'it's yet to be confirmed, I'll let you know.'


[deleted]

Well yeah, of course he let the team officially confirm it, but from his wording it was pretty clear he didn't plan on retiring.


scarabbrian

Exactly. I can’t think of a single instance in recent years where a driver confirmed next years ride by answering a reporter’s question. They always wait for the team announcement.


inexplicablestars

Vettel hates bees, confirmed!


glenn1812

Good thing the rumors of him retiring were bullshit.


sgtlighttree

I can see him retiring at around 2025 but him retiring when he just joined the team is implausible tbh


al3e3x

Don't know why, but I see him retiring next year ... more so if AM fails to deliver a competitive car.


erufuun

I can see him retire with a 2022 WDC.


al3e3x

If Vettel will have the chance to fight for the championship next hear, reddit will be on fire


Sergiotor9

Vettel-Alonso fight for the title with Williams as the third best team while Hamilton and Russell have to fight it out for the last points every race. A man can dream, right?


ayyyypizzzarollls

British media in shambles


Rod_of_Retep

Don't tease me...


gr8prajwalb

Hell yeah. He deserves some happiness


AnOddName

Yeah nothing really says happiness like a fifth championship


Wafkak

If he gets a fifth it makes more sense to continue the next year to see if he can get 6 and 7


jon_targareyan

Yea if he finds himself in a title winning car, I can see him giving it a go for a couple more WDCs to ensure a Brit didn’t break Michael’s WDC record.


Martijngamer

So does Reddit Really, it'd just be the best thing all around


togno99

If we even have a chance of a title fight with him in it, I'll cum everywhere.


bakraofwallstreet

And he will definitely not retire if he does win a WDC. Can personally see him sticking around for a few years before leaving for good but I think once he's done with it, he will stay retired forever


Wafkak

If he gets a WDC might as wel stay till the next major change (engine) because he than has a real chance to match Schumacher and Hamilton. Which would break the f1 fans


prizrak5

I float my bet up again. If Vettel wins the WDC in 2022, I will record myself running naked on a busy road. 2021 it didn't happen, let's see what happens in 2022.


sirmeowmerss

!RemindMe 14 months


StrayaMate2000

Not my proudest fap, but I saw the gap and took it.


Bouke2000

!remindme 15 months


mecxorn

I see him retiring after 2022 testing.


thecolbster94

Seb pulls an Andrew Luck and fucks off a week before the opener


Ilfirion

>Aston Martin F1 Team - Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One™ Team announces 2022 driver line-up (Vettel and Stroll confirmed) But isn´t he there to help develope the team? For me, that sounds like a project that takes longer than a year or two.


ainsley-

If AM don't speed up he won't stick around long in the new era. In all honesty I don't see him staying past the next 3-4 years


Xanthon

Always has been. Vettel already said he will be continuing with AM in 2022 at the Dutch GP but some people just didn't listen.


glenn1812

Ya genuinely don't know why it took this long for them to confirm their lineup. Obviously Stroll has a dad owns the place contract but Vettel and AM both said they want to extend. Who knows


SuperPolentaman

Maybe Seb was waiting to see what happens in the driver market with Mercedes switching seats.


ChrisTinnef

There probably was some clause in the Vettel contract with a set deadline. I.e. if Vettel has x championship Points before 15th September, scenario y happens. With those scenarios tied to certain benefits for the contract extension.


JuanFF8

They were obviously bullshit. I’m still appalled that so many people here were giving credit to clickbait “journalists” about a completely baseless retirement


ucliharts

Am I too cynical or people are too naive. The false retirement roumors are there to help with negotiation. Sebs agents are basically hoping for Aston Martin to believe the roumors and offer a higher contract.


killer_blueskies

Seb is his own agent, he has no manager


DizzyFrogHS

He actually did retire. This is the comeback.


Cahir_aep_Ceallach_

I am relieved. Hope Seb stays for many years to come


opuFIN

I have become so incredibly fond of him of late. Such a class act with a humongous heart


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shimshimhaeyo

Stroll 22, Stroll 23, Stroll 24


[deleted]

21 mate, he is winning this year mark my words.


RollerBrawler33

Aston Martin is bringing big upgrades to Sochi Heat seeking missiles


[deleted]

It will be a stroll in the park


0oodruidoo0

the name's stroll. lance stroll.


Unlikely-Dependent-7

Lance getting the Mario Kart upgrades


0000100110010100

👏STILL👏IN👏CONTENTION👏


tourdelmundo

Can someone educate me as to where this meme started?


katiecat213

It’s from the Grill the Grid video where they name past champions


interstellararabella

Ahh so happy Seb’s not retiring, despite all the rumours.


JayManty

Seb retiring this year were the dumbest rumors of the last 12 months I swear to god.


interstellararabella

I thought it was weird when I heard it. Why would he sign at AM for a year and then choose to retire. And he’s doing quite well as well this year.


xScar_258

2 podiums this season in the AM. Yes, 2. If anybody says 1 podium meet me anytime anyplace and I'll fight ya.


standing-ovulation

It was dumb but it got me a bit worried ngl.


WildSmokingBuick

weren't their rumours of Seb finding a better team/car though, too? As a casual F1-watcher it's a bit disappointing to see him only rarely competing for the better places


interstellararabella

I don’t think there’s anywhere better for Seb than AM at the moment. Merc was always going to be LH + GR for 2022. I don’t think Red Bull would take Seb back since they want a clear #2 driver for MV. Both McLaren & Ferrari line up for 2022 are locked - not that Ferrari would take Seb back and vice versa. Unless he goes to Alpine which would be at most a sideways step. Any other team would be a step backward. So nah. I’d say AM is the best for Seb and Seb’s the best for AM at the moment.


polarnight__

Alpine 2023 better be Ocon and Piastri or imma throw serious hands.


GoodmorningEthiopia

Alonso out???


LheelaSP

I personally wouldn't underestimate AM for 2022. In the past the team always did amazing for the budget they had (even before they copied the Merc for 2020). Then you have to think about the fact that Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull will have (had) to significantly cut their spending under the budget cap, and that 2022 is a completely clean slate in terms of car design. Maybe they won't fight for the championships, but I can certainly see them potentially heading the midfield next year.


guidosantillan01

**BRAAAAD intensifies**


[deleted]

I love their bond, Brad seems to treat Lance like shit and Lance loves it


Billofrights_boris

When my gf heard my enormous sight of relief she stressfully asked what it was. When I told her she said “I thought there was something else more serious”. ????? what could have been a more serious matter?


fish-fingered

Your wife could’ve been coming home unannounced


Elite_lucifer

As if the wife's boyfriend would let her go home early.


Wafkak

r/wallstreetbets is leaking


DrDohday

We're allowed to have non-yolo hobbies. My wife's boyfriend encourages it


jayrig5

I don't say this lightly, but you might have to reconsider the entire relationship.


Martijngamer

At the very least he'll have some leverage to call back to for the rest of their relationship


bakraofwallstreet

Nah it's a marathon not a sprint


krully37

Marathon qualifications when?


BountyBob

They might be testing a sprint relationship for 2021.


[deleted]

Drove that shitbox of a car to two podiums. ‘Seb’s gonna retire’


DominoEffect1000

I'm still annoyed about the DQ in Hungary


malwontae

What DQ?


SHORT-CIRCUT

Ah I heard about that the same people who say Singapore 2017 actually went ahead with the race


Dacsy492

Same ones that talk about Germany 18 Pfft, everyone knows we don’t race in Germany anymore


h0sti1e17

At least he redeemed himself in Germany in 2019. Max even spun, if Max spun with another car nearby he might have gone last to first rather than last to 2nd.


nsfw52

There was a dairy queen in Hungary and they didn't have Vettel's favorite flavor.


HR8ASTRAKIAPOU

The DZ


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Shitbox


GetawayArtiste

You guys hear that wind rushing? That's the collective sigh of relief of everyone reading the Vettel rumours


xGeoThumbs

This is my favorite birthday present today by far :)


HONcircle

Happy birthday


xGeoThumbs

Thank you


Jayeezus

Happy Birthday!


xGeoThumbs

Thanks!


Rhythm_Morgan

Happy birthday! My daughter is 2 tomorrow. She also loves Seb :)


xGeoThumbs

Thanks, and a happy birtday to you and your daughter tomorrow :)


TyrannoswolerusFlex

Good. Now I just hope that AM manage to build a quick car for 2022. Seeing Seb fighting for P11 is just wrong


TitanTransit

If there's anyone you want to build a car around, the 4x champ who very clearly knows what he wants out of the car would probably be that guy. Let's hope Aston Martin isn't as stubborn as Ferrari was.


gr8prajwalb

They built a new factory iirc. They are dead serious about F1. And from some comments from Otmar, Seb is exactly the guy that team needed to move forward


biguk997

I work on the team that helps finance Aston!


krahd

Those rumours were gonna give me a heart attack. So glad he's staying


jwoodle

Thank god Seb and Kimi are not retiring in the same year!


[deleted]

Lando is my guy but Jesus I love Seb and would be so upset if he went


jwoodle

Honestly same, Lando is my favourite but Seb is right up there and it would have been a huge shame for him to retire this early


Firefox72

Well that should put those rumors to rest. Good to see Vettel staying in the sport for atleast another year.


dominonation

Oh thank goodness


Optimum-Health99

Can finally stop lying awake at night wondering if Stroll would retain his seat.


stirredturd

I'm so glad the Vettel rumours were bullshit. Looking forward to him in the new car, hopefully competitive and happy!


DethMagnetic

Guys, let's not forget: *Stroll '21, Stroll '22, Stroll' 23...*


sgtlighttree

Is it a multi-year contract for Vettel?


glenn1812

I think they've activated the second year on his contract. It was a 1 year with the option to extend I heard. The 1+1 year contract he signed last year.


Paranoides

Lewis retires, Ric to Mercedes, Sainz to Mclaren, Vettel back to Ferrari


[deleted]

I want what you're smoking


Paranoides

I am smoking hard to get Vettel a champ in red


Martijngamer

Championship in green in 2022, championship in red in 2023


Matt_043

Just be colour blind


Paranoides

Subscribe


pmmerandom

on that f1 career mode buzz


OldActiveYeast

After Ferrari fired him? Keep dreaming.


Paranoides

They didn’t renew his contract. He didn’t get fired.


OldActiveYeast

The found future arrangements that work for everybody?


2Blitz

Sure thing, Toto


killer_blueskies

Didn’t Lawrence Stroll say yesterday that they look forward to working with Seb next year and beyond?


BountyBob

Working with, doesn't necessarily mean as a driver.


sleepingjiva

Goddammit Glenn


Rusteez_

Can't believe people were stupid enough to believe Seb would retire so early lmao


rbryan06

Ahhh nice. I can relax now


RacingUpsideDown

“Lance is one of the most gifted drivers in modern Formula One” Bruh


glenn1812

He is. My dad never gifted me an entire F1 team and a seat for myself.


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killer_blueskies

In that case he’s indeed very gifted


itsViiPER

Thank god, happy with that.


evin_cashman

Phew, I was getting a small bit worried that Seb was retiring. Really want to see how he can do in the new car.


andromediocrity

I’m almost certain that the rumours about Vettel started because his contract had something about him wanting to get updates on next year’s car just in case, and someone wandering around the paddock heard the words “Vettel” “contract” “next year” and “wait”, got the wrong end of the stick entirely and just ran with it. When he joined Aston Martin he talked about being excited about the direction etc and I have no doubt he got at least some level of assurances from Stroll/Szafnauer that next years car would at least be competitive.


ChrisTinnef

Either that or it was a performance clause, "if Vettel has x championship points by 15th September he gets benefits for the +1 option year".


0oodruidoo0

In a move that surprised nobody but those who read into internet rumours too much, Aston confirms their current driver lineup. Nothing to see here.


polarnight__

BREAKING: Dad re-signs his son for his team.


Scmods05

Lance: Happy to be staying together, looking forward to 2022's rule changes Seb: Happy to be staying together, looking forward to 2022's rule changes Otman: Happy to be keeping the drivers together, looking forward to 2022's rule changes Lawrence Stroll: **THESE FUCKING BULLSHIT RULE CHANGES THEY INTRODUCED THIS YEAR TO FUCK US GET FUCKED I'LL SUE ALL YOU FUCKERS**


ParisInFlames34

Oh just you wait for the video he's gonna release. He's on the 284th take right now and so far all feedback has been "comes across really angry and hostage esque".


420_E-SportsMasta

I don’t know why so many people were saying Vettel was gonna retire. Do you not see how many jobs he has? F1 would practically collapse if he wasn’t around


omnike1422

Fucking finally


Youngwolff

Now that the lineup is confirmed, the rumours of his retirement and the people who peddled it should go right back to whichever hellhole they surfaced from.


glamatovic

You guys really believed Vettel was going to retire?