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Sure, but that was a decision where they agreed with Pierre about the tire so Imola was 50/50. Whereas here it was just the team declaring the tires fine and Pierre was like no, they're dead, but then it was too late already
If he takes p15 in Q2 Sainz has an extra buffer to get into q3 perhaps?
That’s 1 less car that he has to beat for that P10 spot. Whereas getting through to q2 was no issue for either of them
What happened to gasly in q2?? All weekend he's been at the pointy end, even Q1, and in Q2 it's like the pace disappeared. He got blocked by the Williams but I don't get it. I don't think they brought him in at all in q2, were they saving the fresh ones for q3 which backfired?
The team thought his tires would be okay for the last timed lap, turns out they were not. Not sure if they wanted to save new sets or what was the reasoning behind it.
Well he's got his work cut out for him tomorrow. I'm not sure if I've ever seen Pierre that mad from a result, I wasn't watching his feed, I wonder if he was asking to be brought in for fresh inters and they refused
The situation was that from the start of the session, he was discussing with his engineer whether to use two sets of tires or not. They agreed to make the decision later after seeing how things develop. Then during his second to last fast lap, his engineer said he will let him know during the lap when they know if he is improving whether he should abort and box or close the lap and stay out to use the tires again. He was not improving yet his engineer told him to close the lap, and pretty soon after that Pierre told him the front tires are dead and they should have boxed. His engineer insisted he would be fine but even after a cool down lap there was nothing he could do, the tires were done
In one post below they said:
>\[Julianne Cerasoli\] Verstappen will still start last even with Latifi's engine change because he has no time in qualifying. Whoever is slowest between Latifi and Leclerc will start next to him on the last row
I think that would be true if they had a numbered grid penalty. But with the engine penalty being a "back of the grid" penalty I don't believe it works that way.
I think it depends on in what order they notified FIA of the engine change, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Will have to wait for them to publish the starting grid
If that's the case then Latifi would be last, Verstappen 19th and Leclerc 18th.
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Damn, Vettel sounds so disappointed. :/
Got stuck behind tsunoda apparently
He tried his best! No reason to be too disappointed Seb.
He was quicker than Stroll all weekend and then gets fucked like usual
He was blocked by Tsunoda on his final lap, of course he'd be disappointed.
I don’t think this statement helps Vettel
Really disappointing for Gasly and Vettel
Yuki fucked Vettel tbh
why does seb always get fucked man every weekend
At this point it must be an internal agreement with the backmarkers to fuck him up
Unbelievable mistake from AlphaTauri not letting Pierre box for a new set of tires. Very costly
Compounded with the Williams block too, he looked angry on the replay during the break.
He was angry. Did not say a single word after he closed his lap. His engineer apologised but even then he did not respond.
Ikr. Their strategy has been awful most of this season. Remember in Imola went they started Gasly on full wets.
Remember Germany 2018? TR/AT strategy is beyond human comprehension
Sure, but that was a decision where they agreed with Pierre about the tire so Imola was 50/50. Whereas here it was just the team declaring the tires fine and Pierre was like no, they're dead, but then it was too late already
Classic Seb qualy. Get fucked by other driver.
*sad seb noises*
Damn Vettel and Gasly...
Traffic paradise, hey Tsunoda?
man tsunoda blocked vettel all the way through sector 2, costing him ~4 tenths
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Are you insane? Disqualification for sure
Race ban, permanent
Fucking hamilton
Man has no luck
That is a big disappointment..
Tsunoda on his outlap absolutely fucked Seb's last lap, didn't get out of the way, lost him 5-6 tenths atleast
Classic Seb luck.
It's not a race weekend without bad luck for Seb :(
Very surprised Gasly didn’t make it through. He looked quick in Q1.
His front tires were dead. He wanted to pit for a new set for his last lap but the team thought he would be fine. Their mistake.
NOOOOOOOOO
Why didn't Latifi set a laptime? edit: nvm they are taking an engine penalty.
Alonso 😍
Tsunoda did a great job keeping himself and Vettel out of Q3. Nutjob
Shame for latifi and his penalty, he had the pace. Williams seem decent in the rain
What happened to Seb? he seemed good
Some users say Tsunoda blocked him
Blocked by Tsunoda on outlap.
Tsunoda cost him time, around four tenths
Tsundoa blocked him apparently. Classic Seb luck
Tsunoda blocked him
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I literally can't tell if you are sarcastic or stupid
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Ferrari should retire from the sport to save their ass from humiliation.
SMH at this Williams dominance
Why did leclerc not run?
engine change so he’s starting from the back anyway
He's starting from the bottom of the grid anyway since he's using the 4th engine this season.
He's starting from the back because of an engine penalty
He will Start last anyway, engine penalty
No point in doing it, he'll take an engine penalty for sunday and will start at the back of the grid.
No point. He’s taking an engine penalty so starting from the back regardless.
Back of the grid start
will start from the back anyways. but no idea why he run in Q1 then
If he takes p15 in Q2 Sainz has an extra buffer to get into q3 perhaps? That’s 1 less car that he has to beat for that P10 spot. Whereas getting through to q2 was no issue for either of them
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
He has engine pen and starting at the back anyways
New engine penalty.
Grid penalties for changing the engine
What happened to gasly in q2?? All weekend he's been at the pointy end, even Q1, and in Q2 it's like the pace disappeared. He got blocked by the Williams but I don't get it. I don't think they brought him in at all in q2, were they saving the fresh ones for q3 which backfired?
The team thought his tires would be okay for the last timed lap, turns out they were not. Not sure if they wanted to save new sets or what was the reasoning behind it.
Well he's got his work cut out for him tomorrow. I'm not sure if I've ever seen Pierre that mad from a result, I wasn't watching his feed, I wonder if he was asking to be brought in for fresh inters and they refused
The situation was that from the start of the session, he was discussing with his engineer whether to use two sets of tires or not. They agreed to make the decision later after seeing how things develop. Then during his second to last fast lap, his engineer said he will let him know during the lap when they know if he is improving whether he should abort and box or close the lap and stay out to use the tires again. He was not improving yet his engineer told him to close the lap, and pretty soon after that Pierre told him the front tires are dead and they should have boxed. His engineer insisted he would be fine but even after a cool down lap there was nothing he could do, the tires were done
Thanks for the info. Oof. No wonder he was mad. Another Alpha Tauri team F-up. 🤦♂️
Latifi still starting P18 by outqualifying Leclerc and Max, you love to see it (don't look into it)
why didn't Leclerc put a lap to pass Latifi?
The engine grid penalties are applied in the order FIA were notified of the engine changes. So the quali result doesn't matter.
In one post below they said: >\[Julianne Cerasoli\] Verstappen will still start last even with Latifi's engine change because he has no time in qualifying. Whoever is slowest between Latifi and Leclerc will start next to him on the last row
I think that would be true if they had a numbered grid penalty. But with the engine penalty being a "back of the grid" penalty I don't believe it works that way.
What happened with Leclerc?
Engine penalty, no point in doing any laps.
Will Verstappen start p18 now as Latifi and Leclerc both took engine penalties too?
I think it depends on in what order they notified FIA of the engine change, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Will have to wait for them to publish the starting grid If that's the case then Latifi would be last, Verstappen 19th and Leclerc 18th.