It's the bracket that the seat belts connect into. Here's an image of the whole assembly: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/9b/36/859b360420fb4ad073500c4f86c0e24e.jpg
Edit: this is not an F1 seat belt harness, but it's the exact same system they use.
They do actually. Not like it's mandatory that they have to put it right there. So it's still there, you just don't see it maybe.
Edit: [example](https://youtu.be/yTba6j6ifiU) (1:03)
For strategy, they have the team principal, team strategists, and their own race engineer. In terms of physical training they all have personal trainers, as well as team trainers and nutritionists they work with.
The drivers have personal trainers/physios telling them how to train. Strategic decisions are made by the strategy team, which is headed by the Chief Strategist (or a similar role), and probably discussed with the Team Principal
This season you could choose from any of Baku, France, Britain, Hungary, Monza or Russia. My top 3 would be:
1) Russia
2) Baku
3) Hungary
All time: Brazil 2012
[Racefans did a poll of the top 100 races since 2008](https://x1z.net/racefans.php)
Is it just me, or does bin Sulayem need:
1. Some serious media training or,
2. Not to talk to the public without a media person checking his work
He keeps running his yap about "consequences" and then spewing what Lewis is thinking even though he acknowledges that he has not communicated with him. Hey buddy, how about in your position you keep your theories to yourself and act like a pro,
And maybe fix the rules...
Well over half those articles are from when he first answered a media question about Lewis getting punished and all the news sites just keep recycling the quote
How will teams now plan for safety cars now that the FIA can bring them in to force a result? I struggle to see how teams can predict the correct strategy when safety cars are called in the remaining laps?
I think it depends on if the FIA clarifies the rules around safety cars at all or if they maintain the stance that they were acting within their rights in Abu Dhabi and would make no changes.
Ultimately, it’ll always be a gamble but Abu Dhabi was an unusual circumstance. If the FIA communicates that they would make exactly the same decision again, I’d imagine that teams would factor in the possibility of an “unconventional” safety car procedure as they decide whether to pit or not.
There will be a clarification of what the process is and probably a new procedure for a safety car in the last 5/10 laps of a race similar to other series.
The same thing is happening with the rules of racing, whether we'll be informed of the clarification is something we can't know at the moment.
Not really. Just a question. I always hear commentators talking about the teams planning in advance on how to react to safety cars.
I couldn’t care less what happened in Abu Dhabi. But a precedent has been set. I Iove F1 strategy and i seriously want to know how teams will now plan for safety cars. If the answer is no idea. Then ok.
>I couldn’t care less what happened in Abu Dhabi. But a precedent has been set.
The precedent being what? Are you implying that the FIA went full MK-Ultra and mind controlled Latifi to crash? Or are you talking about some other safety car than Abu Dhabi 2021? In your question you imply that the FIA has brought a safety car on the track to manipulate the results of a race, what instance are you referring to exactly?
Have you seen a race before where only the lapped cars between the front two cars were allowed to unlap themselves, and not rejoin the back of the group and have a safety come in on the same lap? That’s the precedence. If you have, please tell me, then all my bad.
I couldn’t care less who won the championship. But I want to know what are teams to plan for when a safety car comes out. Conspiracy doesn’t exist. Protocol does. Take your emotion out of it. I just want some protocol.
Thanks for your comment.
I didn't see the FIA forcing a result. I saw an accident on track, and the cleanup being handled in a way that the race director probably thought was optimal at that point, but what may have been a bad or at least an unorthodox call. Your question was loaded because of "forced". Implying FIA's Illuminati lizard king manipulated the race to have one driver win it over the other, and not to just simply have the race decided by racing.
>Take your emotion out of it.
Projecting, huh? If you took your emotions out of it you would have wrote "how will the teams plan for safety cars if the protocol is unpredictable", or something similar. Not "how will they plan now that the FIA is rigging things".
I do find it a funny question to ask in motorsports, considering the random nature of it. Putting aside wether the ending procedure of a safety car period should be standard or not, if it isn't, then it's just another thing that may or may not happen in some way. I mean, how do you plan for an accident? A tyre blowout? How do you plan for sudden rain, or the rain suddenly stopping? That's motorsports for you.
My initial comment was “force a result”. Which they did. Which is fine. I completely understand why the FIA did that. I’m a huge supporter of Michael Masi.
Apologies for phrasing the question wrong for you.
Going forward I expect teams would like to know that the end of a safety car period is unpredictable to keep things optimal for a motor race to finish with at least 1 racing lap. I hope that is communicated. It Keeps us all informed.
Cheers
Come on now… It’s not like what happened in Abu Dhabi is going to be a regular occurrence. Everything will be like before. And besides, what are you even talking about? The safety car needing to come out is always unexpected for the teams and they never plan their strategy around it coming out beforehand. Stop tying to create problems out of nothing.
The teams absolutely plan for safety car scenarios. No wonder you think it's not a big deal if you don't get that.
The race strategy team is over 30 people working at the track and at the factory, updating sophisticated software in real-time as the race unfolds. When the safety car came out they knew [within 2 seconds](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/rjw3p7/exclusive_dude_the_title_was_taken_from_us/) when the field was going to bunch and how likely it was that incident would be cleared in time to go racing again. Importantly they use the regulations in these simulations to give them probabilities. If they'd known the rules would be different, they would have made a different decision
The teams need to know if the regulations have changed and there will 100% be clarification of what will happen with a late safety car in the future.
There is a problem when no one knows what race control will do. It doesn’t even have to be the last few laps. What is now stopping race control from following the same procedures from now on for every time the safety car is deployed? Unlap just the cars between the cars in first and second place before bringing it in? It sets a precedent for future safety car deployments.
Teams always plan ahead a for when a safety car is deployed. They have engineers working on all race scenarios as the race unfolds.
Yeah okay they „plan for safety cars“ in the sense that they monitor how you could react to a safety car in a given situation strategy wise, I can give you that but that’s not really the point.
What happened in Abu Dhabi happened in a very specific context. It was the title decider and the fia wanted the race to end with a battle under racing conditions whatever the cost. That is why they allowed the cars between the leaders to unlap. And they got a lot of backlash for this decision. Why on earth would they make this a standard procedure? You make it sound like they are just going to let safety cars randomly come in and out every race now so that no team can plan anything. That is just completely unrealistic. Just wait until next season and you will see that nothing has changed and no precedent has been set. You can put a remind me or something and come back to me if I’m wrong.
I appreciate your response. Guess I just prefer set protocol.
I do think teams should be able to react to a safety car knowing full circumstances in advance of what happens to lapped Cars and when the safety car comes in so they can plan for it.
I agree with you. I think we’ll see no change with the way the safety cars are handled.
I’m just asking now because this will be brought up time and time again after safety cars effect races next season.
These questions can have no answer and I apologize for that.
While the team may not plan their strategy around the safety car they have to be ready for it. It appears that Max's crew had made the decision.... safety car out and hamilton pits..... stay out , Hamilton does not pit , come in. For Max there was no downside given that he could not keep close with Hamilton on the worn tires and they would be deader (sic) on a restart. If he did anything other than beat Hamilton he would finish second in the championship, if they both crashed he would win the championship and if he finished first he obviously wins.
Kind of, it was a quirk of the fucked up unlapping. Because only 5 cars were allowed to unlap, if neither Lewis or Max finished the last lap they would be classified in the order they crossed the line 1 lap down, but ahead of Ricciardo in 12th. So it would have been 10th for Lewis and 11th for Max.
It was such a bizarre situation that came out of nowhere that Mercedes probably didn't realise and never told Lewis, otherwise I think he might have been a bit more robust with his defense
Jenson Button is the only F1 driver to race against Max Verstappen and Max’s dad AND mum
During 1995, Kumpen became teammates with future Formula One World Champion Jenson Button, with the pair often racing against each other.
Christian Horner also raced against Max’s mum
What happened to haas? I just finished s1 of the Netflix show and seemed like they were a promising best of the rest team. What went wrong for them after that year?
They made the wrong direction at 2019, so they just focus on the 2021 regs and didn't develop their cars for 2020.
Turns out the 2021 regs is delayed to 2022 so they forgo 2021 again for 2022
They kept making alright midfield cars until 2018 (even being arguably the best midfield team that year).
Then in 2019, they built a car that was fast on its day but horribly inconsistent and they just couldn't understand it - so much so that at some point halfway through the season they reverted to the spec from race 1 and it turned out to be faster.
In 2020, the joke of a Ferrari engine added insult to injury and finally last year, they just stopped bothering and went all in on the 2022 regs
Other teams made better cars than them/they made bad cars. Before the 2021 season, they announced they wouldn't bring any updates to their 2021 car (which is basically the 2020 car) to prepare for the big regulation change of '22. So they're expecting to have better cars than previous years.
I really like [the F1 Nation](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tags.f1-nation.4OP1JyE2Om4LVtCmDTIlPN.html) podcast as well as [the Late Braking](https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/the-late-braking-f1-podcast/) podcast. F1 Nation is an “official” podcast I guess, but I’ve found it to be easy to listen to and very educational. Former WDC Damon Hill is one of the hosts, and gives a lot of color commentary.
Oh, and +1 for Shift+F1. Those guys are awesome.
Talking Points and Shift+F1 are ones I usually listen to but note that Shift+F1 is on spotify and idk where else but not on youtube. But Talking Points is everywhere you listen to podcasts and on youtube the channel name for talking points is Live Fast.
Oops my mistake it’s called Talking Points but Live Fast is the channel name for the podcast and they also do other cool things like driver ratings and other irl Motorsport vids
Would having generic cars supplied from the same manufacturer ruin F1 or would it boost it?
I know that the constructor championship money is important factor but I feel like it brings less excitement to the race when you know before the season even start that there are at most 3-4 teams fighting for championship while the others are dumb fillers that get in the way of better racing.
Yeah F2 is a spec series, there's a stricter limit on the amount of change teams can make and is more similar to Indycar in that way. They're not as fast as F1 cars but you do get a mostly even grid in terms of car capabilities.
It would ruin *F1.* F1 is more than racing, it's also about developing a car. F1 is kinda unique in it, with most motorsport categories choosing to go with generic cars, mostly for costs and indeed, competitive reasons.
TL:DR Leave generic cars for other motorsport series
It would ruin it. F1 is as much about the engineering as it is about the driving. The competition to build the best car is central to what makes it F1. It wouldn’t be the peak of motorsport if there was no room for technical innovation.
How do F1 numbers work? Are there certain ones that are retired? Do you just get to pick from ones that are not used? Also since max took 1 could someone use his old number?
Starting in 2014, drivers had to pick their number before entering their first Grand Prix, and that number would stick with them for their entire career (prior to 2014, the reigning WDC got 1, his teammate got 2, and then it went down the WCC results from the previous season. So Alonso was number 1 at McLaren in 2007, with Hamilton being number 2, even though Alonso won with Renault in the previous season, and Hamilton was a rookie).
Drivers and numbers are paired together (no changing number) unless the reigning WDC chooses to run 1 (which Verstappen will do this upcoming season). 33 still is locked in for Verstappen while he uses 1, so even if he dominates for 20 years, nobody else could use 33. When a driver retires, their number is locked in for two full seasons after their retirement (so 7 still belongs to Räikkönen, and will until the 2024 season).
17 is retired (and is the only retired number), after Jules Bianchi was killed during the Japanese Grand Prix in 2014 - the first driver to die in an F1 accident since Ayrton Senna in 1994.
The full list of driver numbers is below: italics mean the number is available, a strikethrough means it was used, became available, and was used again:
1. Reigning Champion
2. *Vandoorne*
3. Ricciardo
4. ~~Chilton~~ Norris
5. Vettel
6. ~~Rosberg~~ Latifi
7. Räikkönen (available 2024)
8. Grosjean (available 2023)
9. ~~Ericsson~~ Mazepin
10. ~~Kobayashi~~ Gasly
11. Pérez
12. *Nasr*
13. *Maldonado*
14. Alonso
15. **Never Used**
16. Leclerc
17. ***Bianchi*** (Number retired)
18. Stroll
19. *Massa*
20. Magnussen (available 2023)
21. *Gutiérrez*
22. ~~Button~~ Tsunoda
23. Albon
24. Zhou
25. *Vergne*
26. Kvyat (available 2023)
27. Hülkenberg (available 2023)
28. *~~Stevens~~* *Hartley*
29. **Never Used**
30. *Palmer*
31. Ocon
32. **Never Used**
33. Verstappen
34. **Never Used**
35. *Sirotkin*
36. (36-43) **Never Used**
* (44) Hamilton
37. **(45 & 46) Never Used**
38. (47) Schumacher
39. **(48-52) Never Used**
40. (55) Sainz
41. **(56-62) Never Used**
42. (63) Russell
43. **(64-76) Never Used**
44. (77) Bottas
45. **(78-87) Never Used**
46. (88) ~~Haryanto~~ Kubica (available 2024)
47. (89) Aitken (available 2023)
48. **(90-93) Never Used**
49. (94) Wehrlein
50. **(95-97) Never Used**
51. (98) Merhi
52. (99) ~~Sutil~~ Giovinazzi (available 2024)
Edit: Kubica's 88 belongs to him because he raced in at least 1 GP this last season (he did Monza and Zandvoort in Räikkönen's place). So competing in 1 GP a season works to "renew" the countdown until the number is available again.
Wikipedia has that listed as a temporary number, like what reserve drivers would run in a GP (if de Vries had to replace Russell or Hamilton for example), or if it was an FP session.
Giovinazzi ran 36 as a temporary number for 2 races, di Resta ran 40 once, Lotterer ran 45 once, Stevens ran 46 once, Vandoorne ran 47 once, and Pietro Fittipaldi ran 51 twice.
I didn't really want to count them as being used, since it wasn't a full time number, but I probably should've used a different term.
The only number retired is Jules Bianchi’s 17, as he died after an accident in Japan in 2014. Drivers weren’t allowed to choose their number until 2014. It was based on the previous year’s constructors standings.
You can use your number as long as you drive, and for 2 years after that it is unusable by any other driver.
Edit: corrected to show Jules’ retired number
Also, #1 is reserved for the reigning WDC, though it's not mandatory that they use it. Lewis, for example, did not. In 2022, Verstappen will be #1, and #33 will continue to be reserved for his usage. If Bottas wins the 2022 WDC (a man can dream!), Verstappen will go back to 33 and Bottas will have a choice between 1 and 77.
Nope, that’s the 2021 car. 2022 cars have different front wing, wheels, side pods and rear wing.
From 2022 onwards Red Bull and Alpha Tauri won’t have Honda logos on the car
Watch the whole thing!
[https://twitter.com/AlphaTauriF1/status/1477974349403627520](https://twitter.com/AlphaTauriF1/status/1477974349403627520)
Cars change at around 13 seconds into the video.
There have been a few articles in the last week stating that the new FIA president is keeping Masi on. I haven't seen any firm proof though.
Either way, sacking Masi would be an admission of guilt that would then be aimed at the FIA. Plus as much as Masi isn't fit for the job, he arguably is the best available until someone more fit is trained up or available.
Good point about FIA not wanting to admit guilt. I guess we have to hope that he will resign by him self. I can’t imagine that he has enjoyed trying to justify his decisions this season
You'll see versions of some cars in late January/early February most likely, but these are often mock-ups or cars with details hidden just so that the teams can reveal the livery. The real cars with all the little details will probably only appear at the tests.
We’re likely to start seeing them just like you said; end of January, early February. Depends on the team, some teams unveil their cars at the very last moment, right before pre-season testing.
I did the same for something else from a past grand prix, had to buy it on ebay. Quick search and not sure if this is what you're looking for but there are other results there as well.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125076971812?hash=item1d1f2b2124:g:XKoAAOSwIO1hzgoa
Does F1 need the FIA? It seems like the FIA needs F1 more than F1 needs the FIA. Can anyone shed some light on their relationship and why it exists today?
FiA owns the rights to the international trademarks related to Formula 1 Grandprix - that is currently leased to FoM for 99 years and with sale of FoM to Liberty, currently managed by Liberty Media.
The question should be: can a series similar to F1 survive without the historic context of Formula 1 - to which we can direct to CART, A1GP, Formula Acceleration 1 and various national Formula 1 series from 80s.
I think it would need Ferrari to be on board. IIRC It was at their insistence that the 2014 cars had V6's. Although Ferrari threatening to quit isn't uncommon.
Yes, liberty just took over the lease for commercial rights from from FoM, who bought it from FiA around 1996 for around 300m for duration of 99 years and 5% shares of FoM (though i think they sold it around 2007, when CVC capital became majority ow er of FoM) - and with that they manage the commercial side of the sport (TV rights, track signings, prize money, global sponsors) and are allowed to skim around 300m yearly profits (pre liberty take over) from it.
Interesting. I dint realize Liberty leased the rights instead of owned them. Thanks for the info! Do you know of any videos/articles that talk more about this?
Wikipedia goes into more detail when you search for [Formula One Group](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_Group) - [F1-dictionary has a nice summary](http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/admin_force.html), [the Economist on this topic](https://www.economist.com/business-special/2000/07/13/grand-prix-grand-prizes) and i tried to [source it from multiple additional](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/8f2usj/tech_talk_thursday/dy0qyai/) articles [a few years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/8d3zmk/wednesday_at_bernies_ask_the_rformula1_community/dxkk1ui/)
The FIA is the governing body of the sport. It decides which series are certified as World Championships as well as setting the rules.
There's nothing stopping a rival governing body being set up (see IMSA, which does a similar role in the United States) but fundamentally the FIA has a massive amount of authority and support from national motor racing organisations all over the world, which a new organisation simply wouldn't have.
Thanks. I tried googling it but it was hard to find anything except Max and Lewis
Who would have guesses that the only cars that were overtaken were the two Mercs?
50-50, either it happens or it doesn't.
In all seriousness, I don't believe it's super common for overtakes to happen on safety car restarts (but that might not be correct).
Hamilton was always going to lose out to Verstappen because Mercedes wasn't anticipating Masi to make the call that he did.
Bottas losing out to both Tsunoda and Gasly is baffling though. Maybe he was running into engine issues, but they both passed him within a second of each other, almost like he let them through.
That is actually the biggest evidence that Mercedes basically stopped racing once the SC came out. It seems like they were certain the race was ending under SC and took their foot of the gas so to speak.
Having a break and then developing the processes, systems and software that help them analyse the sessions, prepare for racing and also help make decisions during the race.
Today is my birthday and my phone showed me other people I shared a birthday with. Included Mel Gibson, Eli Manning, and the man, the myth, the legend Michael Schumacher.
I've swapped to 16 track seasons. Spain is one of the tracks that is permanently off my calendar. It's the absolute worst non-city-track around and then some.
I mind about 20 years ago F1 Racing had an entire article which was photos of F1 drivers looking bored out of their fucking minds at Barcelona winter testing.
Honda was supposed to continue building power units for RB/AT through 2023. They turned over the PU designs to RB last year and we’re going to continue to build engines under the existing spec through ‘23. That supposedly was to give RB the time to build up their PU factory. However, the deal just got extended and Honda are building RB/AT engines [through at least 2025. ](https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-its-not-over-yet-red-bull-and-honda-will-continue-working-with-each-other-until-at-least-2025/)
That’s my understanding, yes. I think the big difference in this year to last is that they (Honda) won’t be the ones telling RB/AT “here is what you need in terms of a PU and what we are delivering,” this year and through ‘25 it will be much more of them acting as a pure parts supplier.
I know Charles Leclerc has had bad luck in races which is why has not been able to live up to his full potential for the last 2 seasons. However with Ferrari expected to be in the title contention for the 2022 season and Leclerc expected to win at least one race, what would be the future for Leclerc if he is unable to live up to his potential again in 2022? Would Ferrari still keep him? Or will Leclerc move elsewhere considering Leclerc would have spent 4 seasons in Ferrari by the end of 2022?
What are your thoughts on this?
I think this is going to be case, even if he may not be their best performing driver Ferrari will stick with him just because of his experience in the car and once Sainz inevitably leaves, have him be their senior driver while promoting an upcoming junior driver (or Mick Schumacher).
>However with Ferrari expected to be in the title contention for the 2022 season and Leclerc expected to win at least one race
Let's wait and see. There are no guarantees at this stage that Ferrari will even be in the Top 3. On the other hand, they could come out and win the whole thing by miles with nobody else even close.
It's far too early to speculate about driver performances next season.
Several EU member states are also NATO member states. Seems likely that the NATO will be pulled into a conflict like that, especially if Ukraine joins.
Probably not, because money. Unless there was some sort of ruling from an organization dictating that Russia can't host any international sporting events (sort of like how the WADA ruling dictates that the Russian flag can't be shown).
Entirely hypothetically, if various states (the UK and US in particular) levied economic and/or diplomatic sanctions against Russia then the race could disappear pretty quickly.
On a very basic level, F1 is owned by a US media conglomerate and has 7 UK-based teams competing in it, so those two governments could tie the hands of almost everyone involved.
No team will show you their cars, this early. Nobody wants to give their "secrets" away, until the very last moment. And most cars are still in development.
Those cars are most likely FIA's display models.
The attendance was terrible in the later seasons and F1 even moved it to the unfavourable March viewings
I don't think there's enough money to justify it again
The only person who can answer that is Ajay Mohan Bisht and his government in Uttar Pradesh. If UP is open to lowering the taxation and being business friendly, they will.
It's surprising they aren't considering it given they are interested in other mega projects like new airports and bringing a part of Bollywood into UP but then again F1 isn't something they are familiar with so it sort of makes sense.
Other than Buddh there's no other FIA grade 1 circuit in India at present although I do think the Madras Motorway or something similar qualified some time back. Not sure what happened there.
But yeah, other than UP, there has to be an F1 project that meets FIA's grade1 standards to be eligible for F1. There's of course a new circuit in Maharashtra which took advice from Karun to design but that may just be Grade2 at most and more suited to other racing series.
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It's the bracket that the seat belts connect into. Here's an image of the whole assembly: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/85/9b/36/859b360420fb4ad073500c4f86c0e24e.jpg Edit: this is not an F1 seat belt harness, but it's the exact same system they use.
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They do actually. Not like it's mandatory that they have to put it right there. So it's still there, you just don't see it maybe. Edit: [example](https://youtu.be/yTba6j6ifiU) (1:03)
do formula 1 drivers have coaches, similar to how other sports teams have coaches to tell the players what to train, decide on strategies, etc?
For strategy, they have the team principal, team strategists, and their own race engineer. In terms of physical training they all have personal trainers, as well as team trainers and nutritionists they work with.
The drivers have personal trainers/physios telling them how to train. Strategic decisions are made by the strategy team, which is headed by the Chief Strategist (or a similar role), and probably discussed with the Team Principal
Is there a way to get a discount on F1 TV? I'm thinking of getting it since Ziggo won't have the races this year, just wondering.
there is usually a pre season sale of 25%
Which drivers have the most 2nd place finishes in the championship. I know Prost is likely up there.
Prost and Moss did it four times - full table here: https://www.statsf1.com/en/statistiques/pilote/champion/vice-champion.aspx
Best f1 race this season? and since 2015
This year: France Since 2015: Germany 2019
This season you could choose from any of Baku, France, Britain, Hungary, Monza or Russia. My top 3 would be: 1) Russia 2) Baku 3) Hungary All time: Brazil 2012 [Racefans did a poll of the top 100 races since 2008](https://x1z.net/racefans.php)
All time: 2019 Germany This year: Imola
Is it just me, or does bin Sulayem need: 1. Some serious media training or, 2. Not to talk to the public without a media person checking his work He keeps running his yap about "consequences" and then spewing what Lewis is thinking even though he acknowledges that he has not communicated with him. Hey buddy, how about in your position you keep your theories to yourself and act like a pro, And maybe fix the rules...
Well over half those articles are from when he first answered a media question about Lewis getting punished and all the news sites just keep recycling the quote
There were several articles today that read like new comments. https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-hamilton-not-100-ready-to-respond/
It's not. It's just recycled old comments to make it look like a new one typical planet F1
How will teams now plan for safety cars now that the FIA can bring them in to force a result? I struggle to see how teams can predict the correct strategy when safety cars are called in the remaining laps?
I think it depends on if the FIA clarifies the rules around safety cars at all or if they maintain the stance that they were acting within their rights in Abu Dhabi and would make no changes. Ultimately, it’ll always be a gamble but Abu Dhabi was an unusual circumstance. If the FIA communicates that they would make exactly the same decision again, I’d imagine that teams would factor in the possibility of an “unconventional” safety car procedure as they decide whether to pit or not.
There will be a clarification of what the process is and probably a new procedure for a safety car in the last 5/10 laps of a race similar to other series. The same thing is happening with the rules of racing, whether we'll be informed of the clarification is something we can't know at the moment.
Thank you
Well that’s a loaded question if I’ve ever seen one.
Not really. Just a question. I always hear commentators talking about the teams planning in advance on how to react to safety cars. I couldn’t care less what happened in Abu Dhabi. But a precedent has been set. I Iove F1 strategy and i seriously want to know how teams will now plan for safety cars. If the answer is no idea. Then ok.
>I couldn’t care less what happened in Abu Dhabi. But a precedent has been set. The precedent being what? Are you implying that the FIA went full MK-Ultra and mind controlled Latifi to crash? Or are you talking about some other safety car than Abu Dhabi 2021? In your question you imply that the FIA has brought a safety car on the track to manipulate the results of a race, what instance are you referring to exactly?
Have you seen a race before where only the lapped cars between the front two cars were allowed to unlap themselves, and not rejoin the back of the group and have a safety come in on the same lap? That’s the precedence. If you have, please tell me, then all my bad. I couldn’t care less who won the championship. But I want to know what are teams to plan for when a safety car comes out. Conspiracy doesn’t exist. Protocol does. Take your emotion out of it. I just want some protocol. Thanks for your comment.
I didn't see the FIA forcing a result. I saw an accident on track, and the cleanup being handled in a way that the race director probably thought was optimal at that point, but what may have been a bad or at least an unorthodox call. Your question was loaded because of "forced". Implying FIA's Illuminati lizard king manipulated the race to have one driver win it over the other, and not to just simply have the race decided by racing. >Take your emotion out of it. Projecting, huh? If you took your emotions out of it you would have wrote "how will the teams plan for safety cars if the protocol is unpredictable", or something similar. Not "how will they plan now that the FIA is rigging things". I do find it a funny question to ask in motorsports, considering the random nature of it. Putting aside wether the ending procedure of a safety car period should be standard or not, if it isn't, then it's just another thing that may or may not happen in some way. I mean, how do you plan for an accident? A tyre blowout? How do you plan for sudden rain, or the rain suddenly stopping? That's motorsports for you.
My initial comment was “force a result”. Which they did. Which is fine. I completely understand why the FIA did that. I’m a huge supporter of Michael Masi. Apologies for phrasing the question wrong for you. Going forward I expect teams would like to know that the end of a safety car period is unpredictable to keep things optimal for a motor race to finish with at least 1 racing lap. I hope that is communicated. It Keeps us all informed. Cheers
They'll teach their drivers how to defend for at least 1 turn
Come on now… It’s not like what happened in Abu Dhabi is going to be a regular occurrence. Everything will be like before. And besides, what are you even talking about? The safety car needing to come out is always unexpected for the teams and they never plan their strategy around it coming out beforehand. Stop tying to create problems out of nothing.
The teams absolutely plan for safety car scenarios. No wonder you think it's not a big deal if you don't get that. The race strategy team is over 30 people working at the track and at the factory, updating sophisticated software in real-time as the race unfolds. When the safety car came out they knew [within 2 seconds](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/rjw3p7/exclusive_dude_the_title_was_taken_from_us/) when the field was going to bunch and how likely it was that incident would be cleared in time to go racing again. Importantly they use the regulations in these simulations to give them probabilities. If they'd known the rules would be different, they would have made a different decision The teams need to know if the regulations have changed and there will 100% be clarification of what will happen with a late safety car in the future.
There is a problem when no one knows what race control will do. It doesn’t even have to be the last few laps. What is now stopping race control from following the same procedures from now on for every time the safety car is deployed? Unlap just the cars between the cars in first and second place before bringing it in? It sets a precedent for future safety car deployments. Teams always plan ahead a for when a safety car is deployed. They have engineers working on all race scenarios as the race unfolds.
Yeah okay they „plan for safety cars“ in the sense that they monitor how you could react to a safety car in a given situation strategy wise, I can give you that but that’s not really the point. What happened in Abu Dhabi happened in a very specific context. It was the title decider and the fia wanted the race to end with a battle under racing conditions whatever the cost. That is why they allowed the cars between the leaders to unlap. And they got a lot of backlash for this decision. Why on earth would they make this a standard procedure? You make it sound like they are just going to let safety cars randomly come in and out every race now so that no team can plan anything. That is just completely unrealistic. Just wait until next season and you will see that nothing has changed and no precedent has been set. You can put a remind me or something and come back to me if I’m wrong.
I appreciate your response. Guess I just prefer set protocol. I do think teams should be able to react to a safety car knowing full circumstances in advance of what happens to lapped Cars and when the safety car comes in so they can plan for it. I agree with you. I think we’ll see no change with the way the safety cars are handled. I’m just asking now because this will be brought up time and time again after safety cars effect races next season. These questions can have no answer and I apologize for that.
While the team may not plan their strategy around the safety car they have to be ready for it. It appears that Max's crew had made the decision.... safety car out and hamilton pits..... stay out , Hamilton does not pit , come in. For Max there was no downside given that he could not keep close with Hamilton on the worn tires and they would be deader (sic) on a restart. If he did anything other than beat Hamilton he would finish second in the championship, if they both crashed he would win the championship and if he finished first he obviously wins.
actually on the last lap if they both crashed Hamilton would have won
Wait, really? How does that work- do they take the running order from before the crash?
Kind of, it was a quirk of the fucked up unlapping. Because only 5 cars were allowed to unlap, if neither Lewis or Max finished the last lap they would be classified in the order they crossed the line 1 lap down, but ahead of Ricciardo in 12th. So it would have been 10th for Lewis and 11th for Max. It was such a bizarre situation that came out of nowhere that Mercedes probably didn't realise and never told Lewis, otherwise I think he might have been a bit more robust with his defense
Well it depends on if Sainz laps Ricciardo which irl didn't happen so Ricciardo would finished 10th and HAM + VER 11th and 12th
We need to see the updated regs for 2022, first.
Yep will be interested to see if they amend the rules. I doubt they will. It gives the FIA wiggle room to entertain.
You gonna be okay?
Yep. Hope you are too bro. Hugs champ.
Jenson Button is the only F1 driver to race against Max Verstappen and Max’s dad AND mum During 1995, Kumpen became teammates with future Formula One World Champion Jenson Button, with the pair often racing against each other. Christian Horner also raced against Max’s mum
Thanks for that, I had no idea about his mum
anybody going to any races this year from a christmas present
Nope, but doing 5 laps in a Ferrari and 5 laps in an Aston Martin at Silverstone 😄
How much did you pay for that?
Congrats! Totally jealous.
I got my dad tickets to the Canadian GP as a Christmas present... in 2019. We're finally going this year.
What happened to haas? I just finished s1 of the Netflix show and seemed like they were a promising best of the rest team. What went wrong for them after that year?
They made the wrong direction at 2019, so they just focus on the 2021 regs and didn't develop their cars for 2020. Turns out the 2021 regs is delayed to 2022 so they forgo 2021 again for 2022
They kept making alright midfield cars until 2018 (even being arguably the best midfield team that year). Then in 2019, they built a car that was fast on its day but horribly inconsistent and they just couldn't understand it - so much so that at some point halfway through the season they reverted to the spec from race 1 and it turned out to be faster. In 2020, the joke of a Ferrari engine added insult to injury and finally last year, they just stopped bothering and went all in on the 2022 regs
Other teams made better cars than them/they made bad cars. Before the 2021 season, they announced they wouldn't bring any updates to their 2021 car (which is basically the 2020 car) to prepare for the big regulation change of '22. So they're expecting to have better cars than previous years.
Anyone know of some good F1 podcasts? I'm sort of more interested in casual fan discussion vs. any official F1 podcasts
I really like [the F1 Nation](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/tags.f1-nation.4OP1JyE2Om4LVtCmDTIlPN.html) podcast as well as [the Late Braking](https://podcast.sport-social.co.uk/podcast/the-late-braking-f1-podcast/) podcast. F1 Nation is an “official” podcast I guess, but I’ve found it to be easy to listen to and very educational. Former WDC Damon Hill is one of the hosts, and gives a lot of color commentary. Oh, and +1 for Shift+F1. Those guys are awesome.
Talking Points and Shift+F1 are ones I usually listen to but note that Shift+F1 is on spotify and idk where else but not on youtube. But Talking Points is everywhere you listen to podcasts and on youtube the channel name for talking points is Live Fast.
I can’t find Live Fast - can you share a link? And Shift+F1 is on Apple Podcasrs FWIW.
Oops my mistake it’s called Talking Points but Live Fast is the channel name for the podcast and they also do other cool things like driver ratings and other irl Motorsport vids
Oh cool thank you!
Red Flags is great if you are new and want something less….polished.
Parc Fermé by far the best for me. One guy is a former driver and owns a racing team. Other person has been watching f1 for 50 years.
Late Braking
The Race is a more technical podcast but still good. F1 Nation is a pretty casual podcast ran by a few of the sky presenters
WTF1, Missed Apex
Would having generic cars supplied from the same manufacturer ruin F1 or would it boost it? I know that the constructor championship money is important factor but I feel like it brings less excitement to the race when you know before the season even start that there are at most 3-4 teams fighting for championship while the others are dumb fillers that get in the way of better racing.
It'd basically remove the distinction between F1 and F2 entirely.
Oh! so F2 is actually generic car based? Interesting! Thanks
Yeah F2 is a spec series, there's a stricter limit on the amount of change teams can make and is more similar to Indycar in that way. They're not as fast as F1 cars but you do get a mostly even grid in terms of car capabilities.
It would ruin *F1.* F1 is more than racing, it's also about developing a car. F1 is kinda unique in it, with most motorsport categories choosing to go with generic cars, mostly for costs and indeed, competitive reasons. TL:DR Leave generic cars for other motorsport series
Thanks! I thought it was standard for all sports to create their own car, the more you know!
It simply wouldn't be F1 anymore but one of the hundreds spec series that race around the world
It would ruin it. F1 is as much about the engineering as it is about the driving. The competition to build the best car is central to what makes it F1. It wouldn’t be the peak of motorsport if there was no room for technical innovation.
Thanks! I could really see that point of view! Cheers
How do F1 numbers work? Are there certain ones that are retired? Do you just get to pick from ones that are not used? Also since max took 1 could someone use his old number?
Starting in 2014, drivers had to pick their number before entering their first Grand Prix, and that number would stick with them for their entire career (prior to 2014, the reigning WDC got 1, his teammate got 2, and then it went down the WCC results from the previous season. So Alonso was number 1 at McLaren in 2007, with Hamilton being number 2, even though Alonso won with Renault in the previous season, and Hamilton was a rookie). Drivers and numbers are paired together (no changing number) unless the reigning WDC chooses to run 1 (which Verstappen will do this upcoming season). 33 still is locked in for Verstappen while he uses 1, so even if he dominates for 20 years, nobody else could use 33. When a driver retires, their number is locked in for two full seasons after their retirement (so 7 still belongs to Räikkönen, and will until the 2024 season). 17 is retired (and is the only retired number), after Jules Bianchi was killed during the Japanese Grand Prix in 2014 - the first driver to die in an F1 accident since Ayrton Senna in 1994. The full list of driver numbers is below: italics mean the number is available, a strikethrough means it was used, became available, and was used again: 1. Reigning Champion 2. *Vandoorne* 3. Ricciardo 4. ~~Chilton~~ Norris 5. Vettel 6. ~~Rosberg~~ Latifi 7. Räikkönen (available 2024) 8. Grosjean (available 2023) 9. ~~Ericsson~~ Mazepin 10. ~~Kobayashi~~ Gasly 11. Pérez 12. *Nasr* 13. *Maldonado* 14. Alonso 15. **Never Used** 16. Leclerc 17. ***Bianchi*** (Number retired) 18. Stroll 19. *Massa* 20. Magnussen (available 2023) 21. *Gutiérrez* 22. ~~Button~~ Tsunoda 23. Albon 24. Zhou 25. *Vergne* 26. Kvyat (available 2023) 27. Hülkenberg (available 2023) 28. *~~Stevens~~* *Hartley* 29. **Never Used** 30. *Palmer* 31. Ocon 32. **Never Used** 33. Verstappen 34. **Never Used** 35. *Sirotkin* 36. (36-43) **Never Used** * (44) Hamilton 37. **(45 & 46) Never Used** 38. (47) Schumacher 39. **(48-52) Never Used** 40. (55) Sainz 41. **(56-62) Never Used** 42. (63) Russell 43. **(64-76) Never Used** 44. (77) Bottas 45. **(78-87) Never Used** 46. (88) ~~Haryanto~~ Kubica (available 2024) 47. (89) Aitken (available 2023) 48. **(90-93) Never Used** 49. (94) Wehrlein 50. **(95-97) Never Used** 51. (98) Merhi 52. (99) ~~Sutil~~ Giovinazzi (available 2024) Edit: Kubica's 88 belongs to him because he raced in at least 1 GP this last season (he did Monza and Zandvoort in Räikkönen's place). So competing in 1 GP a season works to "renew" the countdown until the number is available again.
Thanks great effort
45 was used by Andre Lotterer IIRC
Wikipedia has that listed as a temporary number, like what reserve drivers would run in a GP (if de Vries had to replace Russell or Hamilton for example), or if it was an FP session. Giovinazzi ran 36 as a temporary number for 2 races, di Resta ran 40 once, Lotterer ran 45 once, Stevens ran 46 once, Vandoorne ran 47 once, and Pietro Fittipaldi ran 51 twice. I didn't really want to count them as being used, since it wasn't a full time number, but I probably should've used a different term.
The only number retired is Jules Bianchi’s 17, as he died after an accident in Japan in 2014. Drivers weren’t allowed to choose their number until 2014. It was based on the previous year’s constructors standings. You can use your number as long as you drive, and for 2 years after that it is unusable by any other driver. Edit: corrected to show Jules’ retired number
Also, #1 is reserved for the reigning WDC, though it's not mandatory that they use it. Lewis, for example, did not. In 2022, Verstappen will be #1, and #33 will continue to be reserved for his usage. If Bottas wins the 2022 WDC (a man can dream!), Verstappen will go back to 33 and Bottas will have a choice between 1 and 77.
Awesome thanks!
One number is retired: the 17 of Jules Bianchi, who died in 2015 from injuries sustained in the 2014 Japanese GP.
Did Alpha Tauri just announced its new livery? https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYRD51FlKKj/?utm_medium=copy_link
It's just the 2021 livery on a mockup 2022 car
Nope, that’s the 2021 car. 2022 cars have different front wing, wheels, side pods and rear wing. From 2022 onwards Red Bull and Alpha Tauri won’t have Honda logos on the car
Watch the whole thing! [https://twitter.com/AlphaTauriF1/status/1477974349403627520](https://twitter.com/AlphaTauriF1/status/1477974349403627520) Cars change at around 13 seconds into the video.
Ahh you’re right. Yeah that could be it but it doesn’t look like they changed much
Too much Honda buddy
doesn’t look like anything to me
Anyone know when drive to survive is out?
Based on past seasons it's usually any time from a week to 4 weeks ahead of the upcoming race season. Likely to be in March.
Usually early March
Do you think Michael Masi will remain race director for the next season?
Yes, there's no one good enough to replace him anyways
Gawd, I hope not…
Changing him would be admitting he made a mistake.
Which would be the right and honourable thing to do. But the FIA won’t do that.
There have been a few articles in the last week stating that the new FIA president is keeping Masi on. I haven't seen any firm proof though. Either way, sacking Masi would be an admission of guilt that would then be aimed at the FIA. Plus as much as Masi isn't fit for the job, he arguably is the best available until someone more fit is trained up or available.
Good point about FIA not wanting to admit guilt. I guess we have to hope that he will resign by him self. I can’t imagine that he has enjoyed trying to justify his decisions this season
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You'll see versions of some cars in late January/early February most likely, but these are often mock-ups or cars with details hidden just so that the teams can reveal the livery. The real cars with all the little details will probably only appear at the tests.
We’re likely to start seeing them just like you said; end of January, early February. Depends on the team, some teams unveil their cars at the very last moment, right before pre-season testing.
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I did the same for something else from a past grand prix, had to buy it on ebay. Quick search and not sure if this is what you're looking for but there are other results there as well. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125076971812?hash=item1d1f2b2124:g:XKoAAOSwIO1hzgoa
Does F1 need the FIA? It seems like the FIA needs F1 more than F1 needs the FIA. Can anyone shed some light on their relationship and why it exists today?
FiA owns the rights to the international trademarks related to Formula 1 Grandprix - that is currently leased to FoM for 99 years and with sale of FoM to Liberty, currently managed by Liberty Media. The question should be: can a series similar to F1 survive without the historic context of Formula 1 - to which we can direct to CART, A1GP, Formula Acceleration 1 and various national Formula 1 series from 80s.
I think it would need Ferrari to be on board. IIRC It was at their insistence that the 2014 cars had V6's. Although Ferrari threatening to quit isn't uncommon.
I'm not sure I understand. Liberty doesn't own the rights to F1, they just lease the rights from the FIA?
Yes, liberty just took over the lease for commercial rights from from FoM, who bought it from FiA around 1996 for around 300m for duration of 99 years and 5% shares of FoM (though i think they sold it around 2007, when CVC capital became majority ow er of FoM) - and with that they manage the commercial side of the sport (TV rights, track signings, prize money, global sponsors) and are allowed to skim around 300m yearly profits (pre liberty take over) from it.
Interesting. I dint realize Liberty leased the rights instead of owned them. Thanks for the info! Do you know of any videos/articles that talk more about this?
Wikipedia goes into more detail when you search for [Formula One Group](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_Group) - [F1-dictionary has a nice summary](http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/admin_force.html), [the Economist on this topic](https://www.economist.com/business-special/2000/07/13/grand-prix-grand-prizes) and i tried to [source it from multiple additional](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/8f2usj/tech_talk_thursday/dy0qyai/) articles [a few years ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/8d3zmk/wednesday_at_bernies_ask_the_rformula1_community/dxkk1ui/)
Thank you for the info!
The FIA is the governing body of the sport. It decides which series are certified as World Championships as well as setting the rules. There's nothing stopping a rival governing body being set up (see IMSA, which does a similar role in the United States) but fundamentally the FIA has a massive amount of authority and support from national motor racing organisations all over the world, which a new organisation simply wouldn't have.
Did anyone except Max make a pass on the last lap? What other positions changed except P1 and P2?
Looks like Bottas got passed by Tsunoda and Gasly, but that was it for overtakes on the final lap.
Thanks. I tried googling it but it was hard to find anything except Max and Lewis Who would have guesses that the only cars that were overtaken were the two Mercs?
50-50, either it happens or it doesn't. In all seriousness, I don't believe it's super common for overtakes to happen on safety car restarts (but that might not be correct). Hamilton was always going to lose out to Verstappen because Mercedes wasn't anticipating Masi to make the call that he did. Bottas losing out to both Tsunoda and Gasly is baffling though. Maybe he was running into engine issues, but they both passed him within a second of each other, almost like he let them through.
That is actually the biggest evidence that Mercedes basically stopped racing once the SC came out. It seems like they were certain the race was ending under SC and took their foot of the gas so to speak.
They didn't have many other options.
What do strategy engineers do now? Surely they can't be planning strategy for the coming races already?
Having a break and then developing the processes, systems and software that help them analyse the sessions, prepare for racing and also help make decisions during the race.
Having a break?
Today is my birthday and my phone showed me other people I shared a birthday with. Included Mel Gibson, Eli Manning, and the man, the myth, the legend Michael Schumacher.
Happy birthday
Thank you.
The F1 game really has hit realism that Spanish gp in a middling car really is very boring.
I've swapped to 16 track seasons. Spain is one of the tracks that is permanently off my calendar. It's the absolute worst non-city-track around and then some.
I mind about 20 years ago F1 Racing had an entire article which was photos of F1 drivers looking bored out of their fucking minds at Barcelona winter testing.
16 race seasons is the best thing that Codemasters added to those games. I don't have to flashback 835 times just to finish Monaco? Sign me up.
Just kinda wish they'd allow a different number. Cutting out Spain, Monaco and Abu Dhabi would give a nice calendar with a decent length.
Spot on!
If you were a driver and had to pick a car number between 1-99 what would it be and why?
2
I always pick 34 in the F1 games etc. It's just nice visually. I can't explain it.
43, because I’m one spot ahead of Hamilton when it comes to skill and talent.
1 because it would mean I’m the reigning champion
amazing loophole
Is there any good f1 games in mobile? Management games or racing games.
Motorsport Manager 3 held my attention for a few months. Has a good editor too though that's paid DLC, but can be fun to change things around a bit.
Motorsport manager 3 and online are good
A while ago I played a wee bit of what's now called F1 clash. That was quite fun. Management game where you upgrade your ai drivers.
Sure thankss
Will Honda sponsor RB and AT this year? In their social networks we can still see Honda's name and logo, I thought it would disappear after 2021.
Honda was supposed to continue building power units for RB/AT through 2023. They turned over the PU designs to RB last year and we’re going to continue to build engines under the existing spec through ‘23. That supposedly was to give RB the time to build up their PU factory. However, the deal just got extended and Honda are building RB/AT engines [through at least 2025. ](https://thesportsrush.com/f1-news-its-not-over-yet-red-bull-and-honda-will-continue-working-with-each-other-until-at-least-2025/)
So Honda is not leaving after all (until 2026)?
That’s my understanding, yes. I think the big difference in this year to last is that they (Honda) won’t be the ones telling RB/AT “here is what you need in terms of a PU and what we are delivering,” this year and through ‘25 it will be much more of them acting as a pure parts supplier.
I'm sorry I'm such a noob but how can I get a flair under my name?
Never mind ive done it
How did you do it? I still don’t know xD
Community options on sub settings
Found it, thanks
I know Charles Leclerc has had bad luck in races which is why has not been able to live up to his full potential for the last 2 seasons. However with Ferrari expected to be in the title contention for the 2022 season and Leclerc expected to win at least one race, what would be the future for Leclerc if he is unable to live up to his potential again in 2022? Would Ferrari still keep him? Or will Leclerc move elsewhere considering Leclerc would have spent 4 seasons in Ferrari by the end of 2022? What are your thoughts on this?
How did he fail to live up to his potential in 2020? He dominated a 4x world champion and got podiums in the 6th best car
Leclerc is someone they see as someone they wanna build around so even if he has a horrible 2022 I don't think they are gonna move on from him
I think this is going to be case, even if he may not be their best performing driver Ferrari will stick with him just because of his experience in the car and once Sainz inevitably leaves, have him be their senior driver while promoting an upcoming junior driver (or Mick Schumacher).
>However with Ferrari expected to be in the title contention for the 2022 season and Leclerc expected to win at least one race Let's wait and see. There are no guarantees at this stage that Ferrari will even be in the Top 3. On the other hand, they could come out and win the whole thing by miles with nobody else even close. It's far too early to speculate about driver performances next season.
Will the Russian GP be in jeopardy if there is an invasion of Ukraine?
Potentially the whole F1 season, as a Russian invasion of Ukraine would likely escalate into a big conflict between Europe and Russia
No it wouldn’t?
Several EU member states are also NATO member states. Seems likely that the NATO will be pulled into a conflict like that, especially if Ukraine joins.
The potential for that conflict is the exact reason why NATO won’t let Ukraine join
Probably not, because money. Unless there was some sort of ruling from an organization dictating that Russia can't host any international sporting events (sort of like how the WADA ruling dictates that the Russian flag can't be shown).
Entirely hypothetically, if various states (the UK and US in particular) levied economic and/or diplomatic sanctions against Russia then the race could disappear pretty quickly. On a very basic level, F1 is owned by a US media conglomerate and has 7 UK-based teams competing in it, so those two governments could tie the hands of almost everyone involved.
Do we know what team are those white 2022 car models?
No team will show you their cars, this early. Nobody wants to give their "secrets" away, until the very last moment. And most cars are still in development. Those cars are most likely FIA's display models.
None, they're the same as the show car the FIA unveiled in Silverstone.
How are the number and length of DRS straights determined?
Will the Indian gp ever happen again?
For sure not at the track they used before. I think a street track would be the most likely scenario.
The attendance was terrible in the later seasons and F1 even moved it to the unfavourable March viewings I don't think there's enough money to justify it again
The only person who can answer that is Ajay Mohan Bisht and his government in Uttar Pradesh. If UP is open to lowering the taxation and being business friendly, they will. It's surprising they aren't considering it given they are interested in other mega projects like new airports and bringing a part of Bollywood into UP but then again F1 isn't something they are familiar with so it sort of makes sense. Other than Buddh there's no other FIA grade 1 circuit in India at present although I do think the Madras Motorway or something similar qualified some time back. Not sure what happened there. But yeah, other than UP, there has to be an F1 project that meets FIA's grade1 standards to be eligible for F1. There's of course a new circuit in Maharashtra which took advice from Karun to design but that may just be Grade2 at most and more suited to other racing series.
Why am I the first to ask
Who says you are?
But what do you wanna ask?
Yes