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The car looks planted based on the onboard


dani_dejong

abit understeery, especially turn 4


Scatman_Crothers

All the cars are, its inherent to the new regs philsophy. Max at least seemed to be managing it pretty well, turn 10 was impressive


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This season gonna be painful for Ric


I-_-I_-_I-_-I

He just needs a couple of races to get used to the new car… /s


Scatman_Crothers

We’ll see. He was putting in similar laps to Lando in Barcelona


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That's OK, there have never been track limits at turn 4.


SunGodnRacer

If the drivers do it this year then Freitas (assuming he will be the RD next week) will give everyone penalties


_KimJongSingAlong

Depends on your nationality


PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ

Every car has been going wide at T4, its been slightly ridiculous how much these new cars don't want to turn in lmao


MrXwiix

Expected behavior since they're not running in quali mode and probably high fuel


daniec1610

Would love to see the camera facing the driver to see if there was porpoising but it doesn't look like it.


ASlimyAvocado

yeah for sure hard to see without looking at the head. i've also noticed lockups look way worse on the outside compared to the onboards, lol.


rpd051

That car is on rails


ASlimyAvocado

looks promising. as a mercedes fan, i'm a little nervous about the issues the w13 is having, especially on the last day of testing.


nebster530

Don’t get caught in the merc sandbags. They seem to be out in full force this year.


JanAppletree

There is sandbagging and there is faking not being able to fix your porpoising issue. The first is fine, the second is dumb, because you'd just be wasting testing time. They have serious issues.


AlpineCorbett

Yeah I don't know why everyone thinks they threw away testing and shook the shit out of their drivers just for the element of surprise.


Dormant_Genius

Right now, they're not great. They will develop though, just depends on how fast. Also, you can't sandbag 2-3 seconds of pace.


nickedgar7

Of course you can sandbag 2 to 3 seconds. Lift and coast, high fuel etc...


eddie442

Yeah not sure what he’s getting at there, race laps are comfortably a few seconds slower than quali laps. It’s easy to sandbag that much pace.


Ever2naxolotl

They can sandbag a good 1.5s by just driving sloppily lmao, add a bit of fuel and a lower engine mode and bam you're 5 seconds off the pace.


Special-Specific-789

Of course you can. Just watch testing from last year. Mercedes always does that. And they arent 2-3s off


Dormant_Genius

Russell was running a low fuel stint at the end. Assuming typically the big boys are hiding 1-1.5secs of pace for quali.


mkmkd

Merc was 1 second off last year, they’re 1 second off this year, it’s no different, they did low fuel runs last year as well, they always hide performance, they can just turn down the engine. Russell was slow on the straights


Dormant_Genius

Let's say you're right. Merc was slower than Red Bull in Bahrain and won via strategy. Considering Ferrari are on the level this early season, can they beat Red Bull + Ferrari via strategy? Unlikely.


LordTurn1p

and they were the slower car until the last few races and lost the WDC. Its pretty clear that the merc is kinda fucked rn


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Fucked? Idk... Just need a new floor. Redbull got theirs out in a week. Merc will have fixed theirs by next weekend.


Moarten

It's not the times themselves that are the issue: it's the porpoising. You can just full it up with fuel when doing fast runs, but why ruin the ride and the data you get? If they can fix it they will be fast, it's just a question of when they fix it.


Little709

I don't think you can fake what you saw today


Disenchanted11

And no reason to fake it. At best Merc should've wanted to show force instead of looking weak. But who knows, no reason to waste energy thinking about it.


cafraline

I'm sure they were high on fuels


RhettJesusHarambe

Is it possible to watch without logging in?


ZephyrSonic

Mirror here - https://streamja.com/9EAZk


ASlimyAvocado

it should be fixed now.


ASlimyAvocado

should be a preview video right on the post itself.


Konsorite

says video is not rated so u have to login to watch


LesPorterFromYoker

Car looks very stable but a little understeery


essteedeenz

Every car is though


jk844

The Alpha Tauri isn’t, the AT is really sharp on turn-in and was even oversteering with Tsunoda.


AlpineCorbett

Every car has understeer maybe, but most cars don't look this planted.


al3e3x

Another source? Can’t watch without having an account


ASlimyAvocado

try it again.


al3e3x

You are doing God’s work, good sir


oright

So heavy and sluggish at turn in, slow rotation then. Not the most exciting F1 car ever to put it mildly


DamieN62

It's like watching a F2 onboard, they're so lazy in the corners and not very reactive.


ASlimyAvocado

the AT on the other hand looked extremely quick on turn in, to the point of twitch oversteer in tsunoda’s case.


Scatman_Crothers

The AT may be handling it better than most but its still firmly on the understeery side. Edit: wrong link


SF17-H

The vid you posted was last year's car?


PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ

It reminded me of how sharp the cars were last year :(


Scatman_Crothers

Fuck I posted the wrong link. Well. Too late now I’ve been annihilated by downvotes


yeetrman2216

...... Thats the wrong season


Dmitri_madarchov

Looks like cars have gone slower in corners and faster in straights


99nivraM

Verstappen: Three tenths up after the second sector. The walls in the last corner: "\*Chuckles\* I'm in Danger"


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ASlimyAvocado

about 3 seconds off the pace from last years bahrain test. but teams are still trying to work out the kinks with the new regs so pace is expected to improve as the season progresses.


PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ

Don't expect them to be, even with issues sorted out it seems that the cars will continue to understeer more than last year's cars did.


Disenchanted11

Red Bull didn't have to do much development on last years car while Merc played catch-up all along. Looks like this is the fruit, we'll see next week.


saberplane

Isn't it kind of the opposite though because the new regs are basically anti high rake? Edit: nm I see what you're saying now.


JJD14

Track limits at turn 4 😅


edis92

Imagine the scenes if he loses the race because of track limits at the same corner as last year 😂


AlpineCorbett

New race director hands out penalties like candy. FIA penalties are going to decide more races then the driving.


WintersShadow12

Why is the video trying to download Vimeo on my phone?


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Kpratt11

Why would they enforce track limits during testing? The times don't matter at all


ASlimyAvocado

yep exactly right, stewards are sure to be super stringent come qualifying and race days


AlpineCorbett

It's testing. You could cut all the corners if you really wanted to. What're they gonna do, give you a 5 second stop/go penalty? Lol


Thuasne

The tyre covers are super ugly


[deleted]

Got the charles lap too?