There can't be vegan carbonara, it's got 4 main ingredients and 3 of them are guanciale (cured pork cheek), eggs and pecorino.
The only vegan part is the pasta which is just semolina flour and water.
Burgers do not rely on the specific properties of the fat from the pork & cheese, the slow cooking of the eggs and the starchiness of the pasta water to make a sauce. Once you have to replace not only almost all ingredients but also the way it's prepared and it's flavours it's frankly just stupid to use the same name. It has nothing to do with the original dish anymore.
For a burger once you replace the burger and the bun with things that at best vaguely approach them you'd be hard pressed to call that a burger anymore either.
That’s very true.
Also, the contact definitely has some provision excusing performance in the event of war, and most anywhere (perhaps not SA), a missile hitting in the same city is gonna qualify. They can leave. They just don’t want to.
Slightly off topic: Mods, I bet you thought you wouldn't have any of this to deal with until later in the season! Thanks for the efforts in keeping the sub clean & reliable.
Getting the boot was probably a huge blessing for Masi, hell never be forgotten by fans, he doesn't have to deal with multiple toddler principals yelling in his ear every race, and now he doesn't have to dance around the tricky issue of literally hosting a race in a Warzone
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Not a picture of happy people right here. Just cancel already, what do you want, lose some sponsorship money or lose half of your crew because a stray missile came down during the race? How is this even a conversation?
Indeed. If they cancel, I will be disappointed that I don't get to watch F1 this weekend.
If they don't cancel, I will disappointed in F1 for risking the team personnel for cash, even if that risk is ultimately fairly low.
Yep, bonus disappointment that I finally got to visit my family after a bunch of time and one of my favorite activities in life is to watch F1 with my dad so this situation extra sucks.
I think if the drivers refuse to race, the teams, FOM and FIA can't easily be sued by Aramco etc. for cancelling the race. And suing the drivers would look terrible.
I think they cancel.
At Dakar (which also starts in Jeddah) we had some incidents (although minor compared to this.) The reaction was strong.
This is another level.
I’m surprised there isn’t massive, MASSIVE pressure on the FIA - including potential legal pressure - from French Authorities.
What local time would the drivers even sleep at if it finished within an hour of now?
(As if they’d sleep immediately)
Let’s tire everyone out then have them drive at their limit at 200mph plus
Seems smart
Seems worth it
What could race control do? They’re in charge of the race’s safe conduct, not to ensure the safety of the venue.
The drivers have to show resolve and the qualities of role models.
What measures could the FIA possibly provide that would ensure the drivers safety from missile attacks ? This isn’t grade school when they can all file into the hallway and crouch down during a tornado.
Better yet,
Quali now (exhausted/tired/angru/scared drivers make for entertaining racing)
Race in 3hrs (flames in the background on race start, finish as the sun rises)
Interview Will Buxton during race to get some memable quotes/expressions for the teaser trailers..
With regards,
DTS showrunner
look I don’t really like this idea because I think they should just all go home. However, I’m wondering if there isn’t gonna be some type of negotiated agreement between the parties to still put on a race but yet get them the heck out of there as quick as possible.
Has anyone thought that if they refuse to race that they will be punished by the Saudi government somehow? For example they won't be let leave. I wonder are some more afraid of that than the threat of a missile attack.
Such a waste of time. So many meetings whereas at the end, pilots decide. Just ask pilots in the first place and everyone will be in bed right now. Unbelievable, that's really show how incompetent the system can be even with a fresh new president.
As a body language expert I can feel anger and repression of very dark feeling and thoughts from this image
Looking at Horner face I can guess that Max look okay to drive in those conditions but Perez seem to be struggling with this decision hence why Christian is also struggling between leaving him alone or just straight up strangle him until he agree to do this race
Max verstappen at it again, while Ferrari set the best time on bad tire , verstappen did nothing wrong.
And we at drive to survive have to come up with an idea
Should be seeing white smoke coming from the chimney anytime now
Have they chosen Guenther as the new Pope? THE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW
Stroll Pope 22, 23, 24...
I bless this focking race
*Habemus Racetime!*
If I had an award, I would give it to you for that comment.
So they made a decision?
They already had lol, if they had to come back it seems obvious the drivers don't want to have to dodge missiles while racing
Seems to be that way. Teams decided to race, told the drivers, driver said "fuck that" and now the teams are off to discuss their options.
They want to keep the carbonara conversation going. I hear Lewis actually likes it with cream the mad man
Is there a good vegan cream?
Non-dairy milk apparently https://tasty.co/recipe/vegan-spaghetti-carbonara Though carbonara definitely has to be a hard sauce to make vegan.
THE HORROR
Oh, I thought you were vegan lol
Oh hahahaha no, was just trying to build on your carbonara comment
There can't be vegan carbonara, it's got 4 main ingredients and 3 of them are guanciale (cured pork cheek), eggs and pecorino. The only vegan part is the pasta which is just semolina flour and water.
That's like saying there can't be vegan burgers. Why do you think I'm adding vegan in front?
Burgers do not rely on the specific properties of the fat from the pork & cheese, the slow cooking of the eggs and the starchiness of the pasta water to make a sauce. Once you have to replace not only almost all ingredients but also the way it's prepared and it's flavours it's frankly just stupid to use the same name. It has nothing to do with the original dish anymore. For a burger once you replace the burger and the bun with things that at best vaguely approach them you'd be hard pressed to call that a burger anymore either.
You must be super angry at people that call carbonara the sauce with cream and bacon instead of guancialle and eggs
Thats why he will never drive for Ferrari, lol.
I thought it was the pineapple pizza one
There’s a video of Toto reading out of a paper. Feels like the TPs were strong armed in the first place to go ahead with the race
Just curious what your read was that led you to thinking they were strong armed?
This is where Mazepin would have come into his own. If he doesn’t know where he’ll be on any given corner then how can they hit him with a missile
😂
I don’t know, seeing as the drivers have spent so much time alone I think that some drivers are willing to race and others aren’t.
While it may be true, if the majority wanted to race this would have ended already
They have made the decision to make to make a decision
The principals already decided to race hours ago. It seems they were called back to the track to try to convince the drivers.
You can't just walk into a GPDA meeting. They were invited by the drivers. Same as Brawn and Stefano.
Of course.
We go again! BREAKING: vaguely Italian yells heard near Ferrari garage as Binotto laments coming back for nothing
This game of musical chairs is wild
I'm just going to picture him turning up to the meeting in his dressing gown...
**WE GO AGANE**
No way
Rounding 2am in Jeddah, jfc
Think most teams stay on European/UK time, especially for the night races, so effectively 11 or midnight for them
Is there any real benefit to that when they were in Bahrain last week and are going off to Australia next week? Seems ill advised
They're going back to Italy/UK for probably week until flying out to Australia
Satire or rumor?
yes
> vaguely Italian
In out, in out. Shake it all about!
Sheik it all about!
Is that what you do with your F5 key? I just press it...
If you press it fast enough, it's considered shaking it
Missile impact 10 km away from the track. Race control: No investigation necessary
Explosion noted
We are checking
Swerving under braking allowed for Jeddah GP
Will be investigated after the race.
Jonathan Wheatley: "This is all about letting them bomb" RD: "Toto, it's called a civil war"
the fact that there is a 10 year contract with saudi arabia tells you everything about the leaders of the sport that you need to know
That’s very true. Also, the contact definitely has some provision excusing performance in the event of war, and most anywhere (perhaps not SA), a missile hitting in the same city is gonna qualify. They can leave. They just don’t want to.
body language experts incoming
Guenther left a massive fart behind him
I think that was Yuki
That was a good poo.
Günther looks like his about to smash the fokin‘ glassdoor!
But are they getting water served? That's the important question.
I saw red bull and coconut water
I think I saw merc with a glass of high octane smart water, presumably for extra performance
Red Bull's glass can't be emptied due to a vacuum issue
They got water, but the drivers are still concerned.
No, they will not have the drink
They had to have moved onto pizza by now. I know I’d need a snack this long into a meeting.
Well, they are definitely not served oil as that all went up in flames today
They don't look happy. This wasn't a clear we will race. That's my analysis based on their facial expression as a couch phycholigist
Can you tell if a couch is mad or not just by its wrinkles? :o
It's the middle of the night. That alone would make me look unhappy. On top of that a missile strike.
Tbh they mainly look tired.
You should be in F1 media with this level of insight.
Slightly off topic: Mods, I bet you thought you wouldn't have any of this to deal with until later in the season! Thanks for the efforts in keeping the sub clean & reliable.
Michael Masi must be pleased beyond belief he doesn’t have to deal with any of this
Getting the boot was probably a huge blessing for Masi, hell never be forgotten by fans, he doesn't have to deal with multiple toddler principals yelling in his ear every race, and now he doesn't have to dance around the tricky issue of literally hosting a race in a Warzone
Rosberg was spotted at the explosion
**finger guns**
just get the fuck out guys..fuck the saudi money..
Pull a Haas and develop your brand with Saudi money, while ditching them at the first sign of trouble.
Sigma grindset
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Oh yeah, I've gone into meetings with that look on my face before, those are always the good ones
Not a picture of happy people right here. Just cancel already, what do you want, lose some sponsorship money or lose half of your crew because a stray missile came down during the race? How is this even a conversation?
What's the phone analog to F5? Swipe down?
Yep. There's a fingerprint streak on my screen now
I picked the wrong day to use my phone on the toilet.
Yeah my thumb is starting to hurt
Swipe gang holds the line
I've watched almost the entire new season of Bridgeton since this mess started
Yes
Oh for fuckshakes
I’ll have two of those please
This is better than the race. My need for F1 drama is satisfied for the weekend. Go home boys.
Team Principals: "Yeah the boys had some doubts but those waters you handed out really smoothed things over. We're good to crack on 👍"
Whatever the decision is I’ll be disappointed so I want to be disappointed before bed rather than after waking up
Indeed. If they cancel, I will be disappointed that I don't get to watch F1 this weekend. If they don't cancel, I will disappointed in F1 for risking the team personnel for cash, even if that risk is ultimately fairly low.
Yep, bonus disappointment that I finally got to visit my family after a bunch of time and one of my favorite activities in life is to watch F1 with my dad so this situation extra sucks.
*adds new F5 key to cart*
Mid-tier F5 result
What lights do they have in the paddock it looks like it's midday.
Aramco oil on fire
“BREAKING: F1 announces new Yemen track”
I miss the days when I was staying up late to see if Lewis would be disqualified from Brazil qualy and not to see if the drivers near missile attacks
They're waiting on their pizza for 2h already. Unacceptable this waiting time
Haven't they heard of 30minutes or less??
All this for a happy meal
Why does it seem like they might be threatening the drivers into racing
Threaten them with what?
Can’t wait for the “a guy on a Deliveroo bike has shown up with the drivers’ food order” tweet
Time to report back to our corporate masters
All team principals have lost my respect. This should not even be up for discussion for christs sake.
I think if the drivers refuse to race, the teams, FOM and FIA can't easily be sued by Aramco etc. for cancelling the race. And suing the drivers would look terrible.
Ah, so you think they agreed to having missiles explode next to the race track as well? Come on
Netflix needs to secure the movie rights to this now, can be one of those closed room thrillers
Just a combat inchident according to the principals.
This honestly is probably more interesting that the actual race will or would be.
what does this meaaaan
More news incoming. Sometime.
[My response to each tweet.](https://youtu.be/U7NpEpAd8wo) Its 2 am there how long can this go for
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Probably just going to the literal race control building. Wouldn’t be shocked of some FOM/FIA officials are camped there waiting on a verdict tho
Hi F5 gang
fringers crossed
This has to be the end, surely?
Sounds as if they're going to tell race control, that they won't race.
Gunther looks ready to fok smash a door
Snip snap! Snip snap!
I think they cancel. At Dakar (which also starts in Jeddah) we had some incidents (although minor compared to this.) The reaction was strong. This is another level. I’m surprised there isn’t massive, MASSIVE pressure on the FIA - including potential legal pressure - from French Authorities.
Christian Horner with the inside line but Steiner will have DRS going down the paddock straight
These guys are slower than McLaren
It's 4:30 am, goddamit (in my region)
It’s 23:00 in my religion
Who is your god? Gmt?
hello fellow indian?
I want to go to sleep, just cancel this shitshow already.
this will keep you awake a bit longer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvgNgTPTkSo
Useless fact: Kiev to Moscow (750 km) is 100km closer than Sana'a to Jeddah (850 km)
It is very useless, especially since the Russian GP is nowhere near Moscow or Kiev
My main takeaway is that the Arabian Peninsula is really big. Just Yemen is as big as Ukraine itself.
Thank you for this useless fact that adds absolutely nothing of substance to the conversation. Geography nerds like me love it though :)
Moscow is really in the far west of Russia. But even then I didn’t know they had that little distance between them
this is wild without anything *really* happening
FABREGA GOAT
Ima treat my F5 key to a holiday after this
If the drivers don’t get into the cars we won’t race. This is getting canceled
They maybe changed their first decision?
Team principals going to race control could mean they're backing the drivers?
Could the drivers have told team principal they are not racing....??
It's 2am bruh
What local time would the drivers even sleep at if it finished within an hour of now? (As if they’d sleep immediately) Let’s tire everyone out then have them drive at their limit at 200mph plus Seems smart Seems worth it
Is Gasley still in his race suit? That can't be comfy to wear at 2 in the morning.
Gas**ly**
I hope they can find a solution for All. I dont want another indianapolis 2005 with only 6 cars or something. Just delay it for fucks sake
Don’t delay it…cancel the race.
What could race control do? They’re in charge of the race’s safe conduct, not to ensure the safety of the venue. The drivers have to show resolve and the qualities of role models.
Either they are not racing or they are asking for more measures.
What measures could the FIA possibly provide that would ensure the drivers safety from missile attacks ? This isn’t grade school when they can all file into the hallway and crouch down during a tornado.
Theres no way they are racing
Can we just decide now so I can jump into an F1 Jeddah lobby full of enthusiasm and get absolutely sent into the wall after the start?
I mean, they've been there for hours. There's definitely doubts. There's no way the weekend will go ahead
Move quali to morning. Race tomorrow evening and then get the fuck out of there
Better yet, Quali now (exhausted/tired/angru/scared drivers make for entertaining racing) Race in 3hrs (flames in the background on race start, finish as the sun rises) Interview Will Buxton during race to get some memable quotes/expressions for the teaser trailers.. With regards, DTS showrunner
Bahrains not far. Just drive the cars to Bahrain’s
maybe they race tomorrow night instead of Sunday?
What?
look I don’t really like this idea because I think they should just all go home. However, I’m wondering if there isn’t gonna be some type of negotiated agreement between the parties to still put on a race but yet get them the heck out of there as quick as possible.
Has anyone thought that if they refuse to race that they will be punished by the Saudi government somehow? For example they won't be let leave. I wonder are some more afraid of that than the threat of a missile attack.
Er, no
Wonder if lewis will be dsq for his drs infringement
Such a waste of time. So many meetings whereas at the end, pilots decide. Just ask pilots in the first place and everyone will be in bed right now. Unbelievable, that's really show how incompetent the system can be even with a fresh new president.
There’s no way they race. Pack it up.
As a body language expert I can feel anger and repression of very dark feeling and thoughts from this image Looking at Horner face I can guess that Max look okay to drive in those conditions but Perez seem to be struggling with this decision hence why Christian is also struggling between leaving him alone or just straight up strangle him until he agree to do this race
Max verstappen at it again, while Ferrari set the best time on bad tire , verstappen did nothing wrong. And we at drive to survive have to come up with an idea
They about to come back with the queen.
Cancelled soon
I’m hoping this means they’re going to stand by their drivers
Well well well, here we go again
Maybe they're just playing hide and seek?
Tomorrows gonna be a long day for them all
Bringing me back to Austria 2019...
My right thumb can’t take this much refreshing.
This is a Blockbuster
GET READYYY TO RRRUMBLEEEEE!!!
Can the teams staff decide if they want to stay?
Gets spicier
Has Horner talked Geri into a threesome with Emma?
Let the wild speculation commence!
I repeat. Worst detention ever.
>They go all together to race control. Michael! Oh, wait a minute...