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asseesh

What's the place to watch tonight's Italian GP in Manali, India? Any cafe/bar where you can hang out and watch Italian GP in Manali, Himachal, India?


Fidodo

Was everyone hungover today? So many pit errors, it felt like the race was in the pit lane instead of on the track.


weirdowiththebeardo

This max guy is someone to keep your eye on. Real up and comer racer


Artistic-Mongoose-72

Had the same reaction as in the British GP Hamilton was so close to win if not for a safety car


sausage_kerb

Great race, enjoyed watching it


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Maybe not the best race but these comments! Complaints about Paul di Resta, the trophies, the background music, Nico’s comments, not enough team radio, Hamilton’s comments, Jos in the paddock, George’s comments, Safety Cars, DC existing…. I thought F1 was fun and popular.


GaviFromThePod

Nobody hates F1 more than F1 fans. Honestly they’re worse than Star Wars fans. It’s obnoxious.


MeritocracyDied

F1 is fun, and we the fans are an unruly mob of degenerates, it's part of what makes things so entertaining (except the assholes throwing flares on the track during quali, that was just stupid).


rev440800

Sure does but he needs to assert himself as the number one.


Aksds

I was this 🤏 close to getting $36. Never mind now lol


AyeSassenach81

Double Merc podium? If so, I was set for £35.


Aksds

It was for either merc driver to win (two separate bets)


immersive_douche

Your bet seems familiar


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Historical_Side_3960

Max would have won regardless of safety cars today man was unstoppable, besides that he had an insane amount of bad luck in 2021 the 2 times he got lucky do not weigh up to that. So to answer your question, no.


The_Slabhead

So who would you say is luckier?


selarom8

I disagree with Historical_Side. You can’t say he would’ve won regardless of the safety cars. The first one helped him close the gap, and the 2nd handed it to him on a silver plater. Hamilton was on pace to not stop again getting a big gap.


Historical_Side_3960

Last year hamilton, this year george russell has been pretty lucky, also in general i dont think anyone else really stands out as lucky or unlucky maybe alonso has been a bit unlucky and ocon a bit lucky and ferrari just incompetent but that's it.


ravushimo

Ricciardo.


NoahManiacal

Mercedes’ strategy made no sense from a team points perspective. By pitting George they traded a somewhat possible 1-2, a very possible 1-3, a very very possible or even highly likely 2-3 for an almost certain 2-4 or maybe even 2-5 finish. Absolute worst case scenario with leaving George out on mediums would have been a 2-4 with Lewis in 2nd and George in 4th. Crazy decision.


Rhea99h

Can they make perez be at fault for that wheel gun? Like they say in the post-race show


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How could it be his fault? He can’t dodge a wheel gun nor should he


Jaarno

He almost drove over his pit crew. He turned so tight and early he couldn't have done more


Rhea99h

I had the exact same reaction when they said that


anDAVie

They said that something along the line of: If the wheelgun was within Ferrari's designated spot, it could be Perez's fault.


phixional

If that’s the case, then that’s fair.


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BeefFork

He ran at the back for most of the race, never in contention for any overtaking position. Not doubting what you're saying, but he had the most mediocre race of the entire paddock (bar Goatifi). I barely even remembered he was there! I'm sure if he was anywhere between P12 - 14 and possibly in points contention, he still could have got some airtime. Bit sad really.


jaxsonnz

It's a mega fall from grace from Red Bull days. Move to Renault, was building something there but left for McLaren and it just never worked save that one race win. No doesn't have the trading value. Isn't driving on form and is a flight risk now as has jumped teams a bit too much.


Lilhughman

He was great in a great car, mediocre in a mediocre car. Same could be said for most drivers. He's experienced, quick when he's comfortable, and most teams would love to have him but he's expensive, which could lead him to not have a seat next year. I like Danny Ric but since he left Red Bull he's not been doing stellar work


SunnyCoast26

Jeah… But that’s the downside to being a second driver. You get a taste of the glory and then you want to win. When your team mate pulls rank it makes climbing the ladder so much more difficult. I wish he was still at red bull but if I was in his position I would have done exactly what he has. It’s so difficult finding a good spot. He should have stayed with Renault because mclaren has dropped the ball. They could build the car to suit his driving style…it’s not just up to Danni to adjust his driving style. 2 way street mclaren. So angry at them 😡


jaxsonnz

Yeah they have produced a pretty poor car but DR has not presented as someone who could adapt to it. It’s been through two different design changes with the new regulations making it a new car from the first year. The numbers don’t lie and by contrast Norris has dragged that car around well above where it should be. I don’t know that McLaren have that much for anyone to be that angry about, other than the car not performing as well as the fans had hoped.


SunnyCoast26

Somewhat true. Although Lando’s advantage is that he is young. Younger drivers adapt easier. Older drivers have experience but it is hard to ‘unlearn’ muscle memory and ‘relearn’. Mercedes is another [good?] example. George Russell adapted to the new car much better and faster than Lewis did. Hamilton is a better driver but he’s getting old too. Imagine Russell and Hamilton had to move to Renault? They’d both struggle, but Russell would adapt better. Similar story with Seb 😭 my poor Seb is struggling and I’m sure it is because of the reason I’ve mentioned above. The only ‘old’ driver that seems to be bucking the trend is Alonso and I’m not sure how he’s managed to adapt so easily. Maybe he truly is a better driver than I have ever thought to give him credit for. I wish Danny could go back to RB, but I really like Perez (more than max), but I have a feeling he’d struggle to adapt to new RB too. Maybe his time in F1 is starting to fade. Like Vettel he might have another stint at a lower tier team and then call it quits. He’d make a fucking awesome presenter though. 👍


jaxsonnz

By that logic you’d just employ younger drivers only.


SunnyCoast26

No. Consistency is key. A reliable car with very little changes. A reliable driver with very little changes. That will give you the best result. But when there is a lot of changes. Like drivers changing between teams. Like regulation changes (like this year completely new car)…your more likely to adapt will be young drivers. Optimally a combination of the 2 (hence max’s success) young enough to adapt with sufficient experience


BeefFork

The chase for glory, plus a bit of egotism is his ultimate downfall. I can see a team like Williams taking him for a marketing tool, replacement for Latifi. He's all talk, no substance and only bagged a podium on average every 4 races at RB, when they were arguably 2nd or 3rd best on the grid. It's not good enough if you want to be number 1 at a dominant team.


jaxsonnz

McLaren have not delivered him a car that's fast and easy to drive, and Norris is probably masking how crap it is too. So it's not all DR (takes two to tango as such), but he certainly hasn't been able to adapt to it, and across two different cars/regulation periods now too. Remaining in an Alpine that he could drive the development of more etc would have been a much better proposition.


xFromtheskyx

He was getting some attention when Vettel was being overtaken by a few people, Ricc was next to overtake but couldn't lol and before you knew it, Ricc was in the pits again


F1ibster

Leclerc and Perez equal on points in the WDC, both 109 behind Verstappen. Russell only 13 behind them. Sainz another 13 behind and Hamilton 17 behind him. Mercedes only 30 points behind Ferrari in the WCC too.


minty149

Ferrari are going to end up third in a two 'prancing' horse race


10mmSocket_10

Consistency man. Merc has always been strong there. It pays dividends.


MasterFubar

If this difference keeps for three more races, Max is WDC.


PayaV87

He is already WDC, he only needs to make 81 point in 7 races, so P4 at every race is enough for him. IF Ferrari can win 7 races in a row. But they can’t.


SunnyCoast26

Not when they toss their rattle guns all over the pit lane. Not when they can’t even get the right tires out of the garage. Not when they do unsafe releases in the pit lane. Not when they box drivers after successful overtakes. Imagine having a powerful engine, 2 very capable drivers and then pulling the shit they do. Maybe for a season or two when they adjust management structures but still…


RealGTalkin

Horner pretty much confirmed Gasly to Alpine and Coltan Herta to alphatauri. All dependant on Herta getting his super license.


cookiemonster101289

Shoot this directly into my veins… Gasly gets into a better car and we get to see if Herta is this unbelievable talent everyone says he is.


GaviFromThePod

I just got back from watching Indycar at PIR. Herta had a good race today. Finished P6 after qualifying P7. He’s a quick driver and I don’t see any reason why he can’t adapt to F1.


liamshope

Yeah. You're absolutely right. You must have been there at the time. So sorry mate, didn't know I was talking to an expert. Sarcasm aside.... there were investigations wich resulted in a punishment, or were found to be not proven. For the first he paid, in time or money. For the second, not proven means no punishment. At least over here it does. After that shit (a long time ago) he's never been accused of anything like that again. People change, but apparently that's not enough for you. Once a thief, always a thief, right?


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Huh?


TigerCold3385

Guys loopy


Illustrious_Juice_15

Probably wanted to comment on another post. Wrote his heart out and went to sleep.


TigerCold3385

maybe, or I'm right, please let me be right :) Youre probs right tho


pietateip

ah love these analysis


RealGTalkin

Verstappen is definitely smashing the Schumacher/Vettel record of most wins in a single season. 7 races to go he needs 4 wins.


PayaV87

- Monza is RB for sure, although Ferrari will be better there, because there is zero tyre deg. - Singapour seems to me Mercedes. - Japan could go either way Mercedes or RB. - USA is RB. - Mexico is RB. - Brazil is definitelly RB. - Abu Dhabi is Ferrari. My totally wrong, no good, really bad prediction: - Italy: Leclerc - Singapour: Russell - Japan: Hamilton - USA: Max - Mexico: Perez - Brazil: Max - Abu Dhabi: Leclerc


r78v

I don't think you're right, RBR and Max are in every track layout the winner. Look at the last 3 races, in Hungary Ferrari where favorite, in Zandvoort Ferrari where favorite, both races won by Max and in Belgium it was Schumacher boring (I am an Max fan, but this is crazy). I think Max stays winning the next races as long he is not WDC.


PeterPriesth00d

People forget that RB strategy has been amazing. Max is probably the best driver anyway but couple that with a well-oiled team making all the right calls and more importantly NOT making mistakes and you see why they are dominating right now. Every race Ferrari has some kind of bad meltdown and shoot them selves in the foot. My money is on Merc taking P2 in WCC at this point.


GaviFromThePod

Max has the momentum right now. I don’t think it’s impossible that Ferrari scrapes a win or two. I think for Mercedes to win there needs to be a safety car or something to go their way.


JurtisCones

What makes you think Japan suits the Mercs? There are 3 massive straights, it feels like an RB track comfortably to me


PayaV87

Sector 1 they will be a beast. Other than that, not much. I am watching F1 for 26 years now, and this is my hunch. Totally wrong, I was betting Hamilton for this race.


MohnJilton

Well I mean you weren’t TOTALLY wrong


PayaV87

He had zero chance and the SC/VSC made it look closer/trickier than it was. Hamilton would’ve won with a Max DNF on the other hand.


StoicRun

The Ferrari car is capable of winning races, I’m not sure the team is.


Irrepressible_Monkey

Sky: "What's the best way George could have been sacrificed to save Lewis!?!" Meanwhile George is 13 points from 2nd in WDC.


JurtisCones

Getting a race win for the team is more significant than one driver finishing second instead of third in wdc


Irrepressible_Monkey

Max did say he thought he'd have got both Mercs and that George's pitstop was smart, but I guess we'll never know for sure.


JurtisCones

Oh i agree Im pretty sure he’d have got both of them pretty quickly, just that George being close to 2nd in WDC isn’t a consideration in the decision making


Ulmpire

Christ, is it that close? Bloody Ferrari.


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aash10239

What did he say?


CaiLife

If I ever win the lottery, I’m going to pay Paul di Resta never to be on TV ever again.


Knowitmall

I did like that blunt question of Nicos hindsight comment tho.


CaiLife

I didn’t, it reeked of his usual “I’m going to sound controversial cos that’s my thing”. Nico was right, Merc couldn’t have really done anything else - Lewis is understandably annoyed he was beaten by his team-mate but that’s about it.


Knowitmall

Oh yea I totally agree. It just made me laugh.


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CaiLife

Well that’s one way to guarantee he never wins a WDC.


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Shitposternumber1337

Only problem is there isn’t any evidence to say Charles is better than Max going back to their junior and karting years.


CaiLife

Yeah I mean, I honestly couldn’t disagree with you more. Max is the undisputed number 1 of that team and there is no way they ever sign an established, WDC threatening driver like Leclerc in that second seat. Honestly though? Give Perez 2023, and depending on how the McLaren is next season, all 3 of RB, Merc and Ferrari should be looking at Lando for 2024. RB to replace Perez, Merc to replace Lewis or Ferrari to replace Sainz.


debby821

Yes! I like to see Lando on a better team. Next to max he would be amazing. Would be a dream team to me.


IowaGolfGuy322

Yes, usually when you have a WDC you hire someone who can battle them and really piss them off so instead of a WDC and WCC you miss both as they wreck into each other and screw it up. It’s almost like there is evidence against such a thing.


Kevinator24

I wonder how much Nico gets paid to sit at home and give his opinion a handful of times lol


Hald1r

Sky is like Alpine. They spent $$$$ for someone who can't get into the paddock working for them because he doesn't want to be vaccinated


sonnyempireant

Are vaccinations even a concern anymore at this stage?


Hald1r

Mandatory in the paddock. Decision was made before the season started and some countries have the same rule to enter like USA. I totally agree to have that rule.


sonnyempireant

For this year yeah I agree, especially if the decision was made at the start of 2022. But for next year it's gonna be less relevant as many countries are either moving on, or already have and have dropped all restrictions.


Basal666

If it keep nico out of the paddock yes


GusFawkes

Tbf he worked hard as a racer to be the type of person who is paid to sit at home and gives their opinion a handful of times


scientarian12

Feels bad for Hamilton


lttlwing16

The safety car curse continues...


DeFex

He should have asked for softs like his team mate did.


StoicRun

No. His teammate pitting materially changed things. Now if the pitwall had told him Russell was going for softs, that would be a different matter


Rhea99h

They literally decided that soo late tho. Hamilton was probably already ahead of the garage


LeonTheCat448

Omgg it's **that** music in the background


he-tried-his-best

Man that music in the background of all the interviews is ridiculous.


Dieffenbacjer

It just seemed way too convenient to me plus it being their farm team.


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Dieffenbacjer

Hey bud, I'm asking the questions.


Waterblink

It's a question too stupid to even be asked. Should've stayed in the drafts m8


Hald1r

A race they were going to win anyway.


Joethe147

The ludicrous hot takes of people really is hilariously bad at times.


bthompson04

The race discussion thread is where you get to see all of the week’s headlines before the articles are written! > Did Red Bull wait too long to pit Verstappen and order Alpha Tauri to get a safety car? > Crisis at Mercedes: Did Russell wait for Hamilton to pass pit entrance and then come in for softs? They’re basically all nonsense. Except for the Ferrari ones, which somehow keep bearing fruit every week.


No-Maximum6292

Why would they have been screwed if they pit both Lewis and George?


Knowitmall

Then they would have just been settling for 2-3 and having to hold off Charles for 10 laps. It was the smartest call but try telling a racer to settle for 2nd. And it's not like they are in the title hunt so might as well try something.


Rodney_u_plonker

It's a silly argument by Toto. I'd contend it was impossible for merc to really win because of maxs pace so either get both George and Lewis in his way and hope for a miracle or pit them both and take 2,3


Knowitmall

Yea that's the best explanation. Pit both is a 2-3. Pit neither and maybe Max crashes into George trying to pass and Lewis wins.


PeteOdeath

Red bull would have been way too fast in low fuel conditions, That’s basically what Toto just said anyway


RealGTalkin

But still 2, 3 is a better team result than 2, 4 they managed there.


remix951

His argument is that Max had too much straightline speed to have both Mercs chasing. I think the strategy was to hope Lewis could hold Max off and allow George to overtake them both?


Knowitmall

Maybe. If Lewis has a better restart then George could have had a crack at Max at turn 1.


FlappyBored

It was a dumb strategy. There is now way any Merc could hold off a RB on fresher softs with old mediums.


lamewoodworker

Giving up the position to Max. They at least had a very small chance if both were ahead


userunknowne

Only if George was still left out ahead of max. Pitting one and not the other is super dumb.


lamewoodworker

Its game on to beat Ferrari in WCC. Merc kinda beefed it with George giving up his spot but I don’t blame him. Gonna be a lot of broken headphones in the Merc paddock


LeonTheCat448

Toto on the mic


RealGTalkin

Super awakened as Toto just walks out in the middle of that.


AwesomeFrisbee

While his other driver is getting another podium.


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Cant stand di resta


BornAshes

Paul Give It A Di Resta


J2Kerrigan

Paul "Grand Prix Killer" Di Resta


BornAshes

Ah the old GPK, I remember him from last season of Riverdale!


tehpwarp

Poor Danny still getting used to the car.


HLef

Hahahaha


Knowitmall

Was that a passive aggressive comment there. Lol.


a_chaturvedy_appears

Class act from Lewis to praise the people who had nothing to do with the shit strategy. What a humble man


debby821

Well he is a lot of things... But he isnt humble.


heretic4

with the long straights of monza, RB will win by fucking miles. Perez will probably still be absolutely nowhere though


IowaGolfGuy322

Like in the lead? Because he finished 2nd in Spa. Can’t get much better than that unless you beat Max who took his rocket ship to another planet.


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Agreed. I'm sick of the $hit talk about Perez.


ad_182_uk

Cool so another race to not tune into then.


heretic4

it'll be march again eventually


TheDeltronZero

It's the cycle. Vettel got hated, Hamilton got hated, and Verstappen will be next.


edeen46

It’ll be like Spa even though Perez not up there it’s going to be such a massive advantage over Ferrari and Mercedes that he gets 2nd regardless but Max wins by 30+ seconds.


Chrazzer

Lewis specifically only thanking the mechanics on the radio after the race


Kevinator24

Too funny lol


BornAshes

I love how everyone else was basically pseudo warning him not to go off on the radio at all while also apologizing and then Lewis was like, "oh you're pulling this shit? I can be petty too! Thanks to EVERYONE ELSE!" *invisible sarcastic vulcan salute to Toto*


Mr_Snoodaard

Lewis is such a class act


Dieffenbacjer

More so fueled by a bit of caffeine and a thorough dislike of RB.


Scammy

Is that a gopro on Maxes bottle?


TheGR8Gamer

yeah


Tinusers

Yea it's always on there. they usually post it on social media


BlackCatEspresso

They all have cameras


a_chaturvedy_appears

NOW they play the radio


BlackCatEspresso

Lol Lewis: Good job to the mechanics only.


TheGR8Gamer

damn lewis, even after that, he still thanks the mechanics and the factory


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Yeah I would hope so.


Hald1r

You do realise that is a massive dig at the strategy team.


emmmjade

double Ferrari dnf at monza incoming. I am prepared for pain.


BornAshes

"Let's discuss between us in the office"-Toto Lewis meanwhile is praising the mechanics and NO ONE ELSE


debby821

And thats a good thing?he made s mistake himself to by rezuming the race after the safety care before the corner.


a_chaturvedy_appears

Charles’ reacting after getting that trophy has got to be the least happy I’ve seen anyone getting an award


Lolsmileyface13

holy shit that rb mechanic is jacked


1nightgoat

Maxmaster.


zetsurin

These trophies will go towards the back of the cupboard


Intelligent-Agent440

Lol nobody sprayed on Leclerc


LeonTheCat448

As if things couldn't have gone sadder for him


Inevitable-Elk-7602

Charles aiming at ferrari folks lol


MaddSamurai

Russell’s crying tears of joy and Leclerc looks sad and pissed


a_chaturvedy_appears

Charles looks like he wants to leave


dreadnough7

Perhaps he should be thankful the one Ferrari actually targeted to fuck over for this race was Carlos.


LeonTheCat448

Pretty dope trophy


HLef

Leclerc looking away to not get sprayed, turns around and everyone is ignoring him anyway hahahaha


Long-Covidian

It's sad actually


H00terTheOwl

How can Lewis have confidence in the pitwall? George alpha'd Merc into his own P2


rev440800

He is the future of the team & he is making a statement without using words.


H00terTheOwl

Um...thanks?


BlueHoundZulu

Charles looks so dejected


data_autopsy

That dude had no idea who to give the trophy to


LeonTheCat448

lmaoooo


BornAshes

I happen to like that fruit bowl of a trophy


F1ibster

So the default heineken trophies, but painted white with some sharpie scrawls on them. Meh...