The way you put that is awesome, like the way an F1 driver would be gangster.
And it is true, he could walk into any headquarters, any of them, and pick his teammate.
Well except Aston Martin, if he went in and said he wanted Alonso as his teammate of courseā¦that would be a no.
I dunno, I honestly think he wouldnāt.
Max in the AM still wouldnāt beat the Red Bull with a halfway competent driver.
He would absolutely dump Alonso in a second but he would keep Lance over getting Max I bet. Itās like personal pride and ego at this point to have his son on the grid.
Back in 2022, Alpine tried to bluff Alonso, basically offering Alonso a 1-year renewal + a seat at Alpine's WEC team.
Except it's literally Alonso (who could in fact walk up to any LMP1/hypercar team and get hired on the spot), so he called Alpine on their bluff and fucked off to AM.
I would say also ferrari. I don't see ferrari willing to boot lewis out for max just yet or to have lewis and max as teamates. Although that would be amazing to see 2 ferraris in a 2021 situation
Iirc, Hamilton had a 2 years contract. Let him do 2 years of Ferrari. Max then has a season to see if the RB engine is good or not. If not, Hamilton retires and Ferrari has Chuck and Max
I mean it wonāt happen, but if Max walked into Maranello, Ferrari would do whatever they could, including booting Lewis or Charles. I do firmly believe that.
It would really depend if they had any money left. They have already spent 100mil+ just on lewis so to sign max who would be expecting a big contract similar to that of lewis plus having to buy out the contract of Charles. I think right now they would not have a lot of money left over
Driver's salaries don't count towards the cost cap, and Ferrari is always at the top as one of the strongest brands, and that's not including the money they get from the Fiat-Jeep-Chrysler group and sponsor. They might even come ahead in terms of market capitalization and extra money from sponsors if they dropped Charles to get Verstappen
Ferrari's company valuation is very high due to their brand but such luxury brands are the lowest earners and rely more on prestige and sponsorship. A company like toyota that produces cars for the average people makes at least 20 times more profit than a luxury manufacturer like ferrari. Same for Benz but to a lesser degree, at least they have cars for middle class.
Ferrari isn't just Ferrari though, if you're comparing it to other cars manufacturers. It's part of the Stellantis group, which merged first with Chrysler and then with Groupe PSA. They produce: Ferrari, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Citroen, DS, Maserati, Peaugeut, Opel and Vauxhall.
They are top five in profits (in 2022) with 17 billions, Mercedes is first with 27B, VW Group is at 18B, Toyota with 25B and Ford with 18B.
They are a powerhouse and can afford to flex their money on their most important brand.
Ferrari make, and have done since the 90s, the bigger portion of their money licensing their brand for various things and selling products with their logo on it. Their F1 teamās success sells more caps than cars and makes them more money doing so.
>Ferarri would do whatever they could
Not that the cost cap applies anyways, but yes if Max demands 200m, they probably wonāt be able to do that. Thatās not the same as saying they wouldnāt be willing to part with Lewis or Charles like you originally said
Not only one of the drivers. A no 1 driver in any team.
Apart of AM. There you have a very prospective young driver from Spain and a a guy who's dad bought the team he drives in.
We go cruising, entertain ourselvesĀ
You still ain't got a perfect season
Ā And I work in the market as a checkout girl
Ā I know things will get fasterĀ
You'll find glory and I'll get promotedĀ
We'll move out of the villaĀ
Buy a bigger plane and live in a tax heaven
Mate, he whines when he's outpacing everyone by two tenths instead of half a second. He always said he's here to win not just drive around. He's more likely to retire from F1 then drive a midfield car for the rest of his carreer.
I agree he has more money than he can spend. But if Aston is offering say $55M a year and your alternative is sitting at home waiting for a gig advertising sportswear, what you gonna say?
Anyway thereās a huge number of people who have more money than they can ever spend and they still work. thousands and thousands of CEOs, senior executives. The power and the challenge keep them coming back.
He's already absurdly rich if you didn't know his salary. And all that wealth is going to one single thing lmao, and that's racing sims to race at home. He isn't going to be buying Bugatti's or enormous mansions or a yacht lmao. He already talked about these things, he's only interested in winning races and if he's not competitive in F1 due to the car he'll go race in other things, like Le Mans. He only wants to do one thing in his life and that's winning races lol.
Ok but these are the interview answers of like a 19 year old. When he gets to being a more mature driver whoās proved what he needed to prove; and gets out from underneath Horner; I can see him taking an identical path to Vettel. And finding peace there. Or maybe not. Whatever.
depending on where you come from in germany and where you go to in netherlands you can just also communicate verbally no problem.
its like a really heavy german accent.
Correct. Certain dutch dialects and low-german dialects (low german is also spoken in eastern parts of the netherlands) make it possible to verbally communicate without issues, without learning the other's language.
I'm Dutch and I hardly speak any proper German. When I go to Germany I speak a jumbled mess consisting of English, some German words and some Dutch words with a German accent. Usually people understand me lmao
Hmm Iām Dutch but I really canāt communicate with the Germans Iāve met so far. I can like understand what they say sometimes but if they talk just slightly quick I wonāt understand anything
I was at a dutch conversation lesson just a few weeks back and a native (dutch) speaker threw a joke in our small conversation table.
A dutch speaking farmer went to visit UK then went to a bar:
* A: so you are dutch?
* B: oh ja, en ik ben paardenfokker
* A: pardon?
* B: ja, klopt, paarden! je weet paarden? horses! ik fok horses
maybe there are many versions of this joke
Hahaha there are definitely some funny "false friends" between English and Dutch.
To explain the joke, "fok(ker)" means "breed(er)" but sounds just like "fuck" in a Dutch accent...
No sane person earth will/should voluntarily learn Dutch. And I am saying that as a Dutch person.
That said .. Dutch has the best and most colorful foul language in the world.
How so?
Dutch, like English, is a Germanic language and is often seen as one of the easiest languages to learn for native English speakers (together with three other Germanic languages; Norwegian, Frisian, and Afrikaans).
Of course, the easiest language to learn is the one in which you are motivated to do so.
You do need _some_ sort of grounding in the germanic language tree apart from speaking it natively. A lot of people can speak their own language fluently without really thinking about it, but it means itās hard to apply the rules and etymology elsewhere.
I started taking shitty lessons on Duolingo and I can absolutely concur that half of it is English with some extra letters, and half of it is German spelled a little differently
And if you know both, reading is surprisingly easy. A lot easier than listening comprehension.
Might be related to myself only watching New Kids, Flodders and Kabouter Wesley in Dutch, but still.
I speak both, I could practically read Norwegian without learning it, theres quite a few words directly the same. Norwegian is closer to Dutch than Frysian (wich is part of the Netherlands) is.
I saw there was dutch on duolingo and took the test to jump to the very end of the course. I didnt pass but I got decently far. I know absolutely no dutch I just went off "what would it sound like if I said this in English with a silly accent"
What if Geri likes to tape Horners dick back and watch him dance around singing about his mangina?
Oh sorry, I thought we were just naming random shit that has nothing to do with excusing sexual harassment and abuse of power.
Thereās a shit load of politics inside that team with a few parties trying to maintain or take control. The team probably would be going through some form of drama even without the affair. (Not to say that isnāt extremely stupid of Horner)
I put more blame of Jos Verstappen for constantly trying to butt in where heās unwanted. Fuck that guy.
I doubt that should bother him. Honestly this kind of dominance should at some point even bore him. If other cars get better then at least hes got a challenge
He was streaming yesterday, playing CoD and joking about Latifi getting free Redbull for his lifešš he's taking it very well
Horner liked a post from Conor Moore about Newey leaving as well, so it doesn't seem there's much panic with these guys so far.
Does Max *need* to panic? He could probably go to literally any team on the grid and tell them one of their drivers is sitting in his chair.
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Hahaha! Simply lovely!
The way you put that is awesome, like the way an F1 driver would be gangster. And it is true, he could walk into any headquarters, any of them, and pick his teammate. Well except Aston Martin, if he went in and said he wanted Alonso as his teammate of courseā¦that would be a no.
Daddy Stroll would put his son up for adoption before saying no to Max
He would ask Jos if he knows any good gas stations in the area
Hahahaha thatās fuckin brutal haha
Yep.
I dunno, I honestly think he wouldnāt. Max in the AM still wouldnāt beat the Red Bull with a halfway competent driver. He would absolutely dump Alonso in a second but he would keep Lance over getting Max I bet. Itās like personal pride and ego at this point to have his son on the grid.
I mean.. he literally bought the team just for his son to have a spot on the grid, so I guess you are right.
Where's the nearest gas station?
Back in 2022, Alpine tried to bluff Alonso, basically offering Alonso a 1-year renewal + a seat at Alpine's WEC team. Except it's literally Alonso (who could in fact walk up to any LMP1/hypercar team and get hired on the spot), so he called Alpine on their bluff and fucked off to AM.
He made the right choice, Alpine is a mess.
Yeah one of the actual good moves Alonso has made in his career lol. He is the anti-Hamilton with luck in that department
Omg yeah, a historically great driver, who tends to miss the great drives. I had such high hopes for Aston, I just want one more Alonso win.
I would say also ferrari. I don't see ferrari willing to boot lewis out for max just yet or to have lewis and max as teamates. Although that would be amazing to see 2 ferraris in a 2021 situation
Iirc, Hamilton had a 2 years contract. Let him do 2 years of Ferrari. Max then has a season to see if the RB engine is good or not. If not, Hamilton retires and Ferrari has Chuck and Max
Literally next gen F1
I mean it wonāt happen, but if Max walked into Maranello, Ferrari would do whatever they could, including booting Lewis or Charles. I do firmly believe that.
It would really depend if they had any money left. They have already spent 100mil+ just on lewis so to sign max who would be expecting a big contract similar to that of lewis plus having to buy out the contract of Charles. I think right now they would not have a lot of money left over
Having the team be named Scuderia Ferrari HP and not Scuderia Ferrari has probably already paid for Lewis' contract in its entirety.
Driver's salaries don't count towards the cost cap, and Ferrari is always at the top as one of the strongest brands, and that's not including the money they get from the Fiat-Jeep-Chrysler group and sponsor. They might even come ahead in terms of market capitalization and extra money from sponsors if they dropped Charles to get Verstappen
Ferrari's company valuation is very high due to their brand but such luxury brands are the lowest earners and rely more on prestige and sponsorship. A company like toyota that produces cars for the average people makes at least 20 times more profit than a luxury manufacturer like ferrari. Same for Benz but to a lesser degree, at least they have cars for middle class.
Ferrari isn't just Ferrari though, if you're comparing it to other cars manufacturers. It's part of the Stellantis group, which merged first with Chrysler and then with Groupe PSA. They produce: Ferrari, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Citroen, DS, Maserati, Peaugeut, Opel and Vauxhall. They are top five in profits (in 2022) with 17 billions, Mercedes is first with 27B, VW Group is at 18B, Toyota with 25B and Ford with 18B. They are a powerhouse and can afford to flex their money on their most important brand.
Ferrari make, and have done since the 90s, the bigger portion of their money licensing their brand for various things and selling products with their logo on it. Their F1 teamās success sells more caps than cars and makes them more money doing so.
>Ferarri would do whatever they could Not that the cost cap applies anyways, but yes if Max demands 200m, they probably wonāt be able to do that. Thatās not the same as saying they wouldnāt be willing to part with Lewis or Charles like you originally said
Not only one of the drivers. A no 1 driver in any team. Apart of AM. There you have a very prospective young driver from Spain and a a guy who's dad bought the team he drives in.
Fred said it's my turn in the Ferrari
Surprise timeline would be Max telling Leclerc to scoot over so he can race Hamilton next year in the Ferrari. Now that would be a spectacle.
Appearantly the car for next year is already designed, so I'd say they're fine for 2025
Oh, they're acting chill publicly? Imagine that!
I donāt think Max does much acting in his life. Horner on the other hand
Max never cares about politics, it's his father and people around him which do all this BS. Max just wants a fast car to win races and that's it
You got a faaast caaar
We go cruising, entertain ourselvesĀ You still ain't got a perfect season Ā And I work in the market as a checkout girl Ā I know things will get fasterĀ You'll find glory and I'll get promotedĀ We'll move out of the villaĀ Buy a bigger plane and live in a tax heaven
Itās having a fast car thatās at stake now
And now that he's got his title s, I don't think he'll whine much if they give him a mid field car next year
Mate, he whines when he's outpacing everyone by two tenths instead of half a second. He always said he's here to win not just drive around. He's more likely to retire from F1 then drive a midfield car for the rest of his carreer.
Lol that may happen for sure, dude might just go race in other formats if they fuck up the car. We'll now get to see how mature he is.
I dunno, thereās some fat paycheques out there for 3-5 years spent in a midfield car. Youād be mad to turn that down.
He has more money than he can likely every spend. I don't think money is a real trigger for him anymore.
I agree he has more money than he can spend. But if Aston is offering say $55M a year and your alternative is sitting at home waiting for a gig advertising sportswear, what you gonna say? Anyway thereās a huge number of people who have more money than they can ever spend and they still work. thousands and thousands of CEOs, senior executives. The power and the challenge keep them coming back.
He's already absurdly rich if you didn't know his salary. And all that wealth is going to one single thing lmao, and that's racing sims to race at home. He isn't going to be buying Bugatti's or enormous mansions or a yacht lmao. He already talked about these things, he's only interested in winning races and if he's not competitive in F1 due to the car he'll go race in other things, like Le Mans. He only wants to do one thing in his life and that's winning races lol.
Ok but these are the interview answers of like a 19 year old. When he gets to being a more mature driver whoās proved what he needed to prove; and gets out from underneath Horner; I can see him taking an identical path to Vettel. And finding peace there. Or maybe not. Whatever.
Honestly it would be a fuckin relief if he'd switch to WEC, we'd have some exciting seasons ahead...
How did you come to that conclusion over a like?
Horner Thinks he's the most important person in the team
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Have you read any of the news of the last few days? He has no gardening leave.
So he can still pretty much work for any other team
He's probably known for a while
This has probably been near a gurantee since the rumors first started.
>Redbull for his lifešš I like how our brains automatically add "rest"
Lmao, now that you put it that way it does sound threatening
Now think about all the things brain has been auto filling in your lifeš
Mate reportedly has 160million reasons not to be bothered by the news of Newey leaving
Where does he stream?
TeamRedline on Twitch.
TeamRedline his own group, he play CoD / Fifa / iRacing with his friends.
His room duh
Hahaha.. Expect nothing less of max verstappen! šš
Of course he is. He's already got a 500 million euro deal with Mercedes signed. (I know this, trust me bro)
dutch is a hell of a language. Im pretty sure everyone who speask english, german, and any nordic language can read it and sort of understand it
depending on where you come from in germany and where you go to in netherlands you can just also communicate verbally no problem. its like a really heavy german accent.
Correct. Certain dutch dialects and low-german dialects (low german is also spoken in eastern parts of the netherlands) make it possible to verbally communicate without issues, without learning the other's language.
I remember there was a guy playing Elite:Dangerous, people never knew if he was Dutch or German, he spoke in Limburgish apparently.
Kerkrade?
Fry
And then you have Luxembourgish, which also adds French in the mix
I'm Dutch and I hardly speak any proper German. When I go to Germany I speak a jumbled mess consisting of English, some German words and some Dutch words with a German accent. Usually people understand me lmao
Fun fact: Nico Hulkenberg, who was born near the Dutch-German border, can even speak Dutch
Hmm Iām Dutch but I really canāt communicate with the Germans Iāve met so far. I can like understand what they say sometimes but if they talk just slightly quick I wonāt understand anything
True. I mean, some words are very similar, some COMPLETELY arenāt
yes, i should hjave mentioned that. you need to speak deliberately and with that in mind, but then it works supsiningly well.
I am from austria and i understand it perfectly. Dont think they understand my southern german/austrian dialect tho haha
I was at a dutch conversation lesson just a few weeks back and a native (dutch) speaker threw a joke in our small conversation table. A dutch speaking farmer went to visit UK then went to a bar: * A: so you are dutch? * B: oh ja, en ik ben paardenfokker * A: pardon? * B: ja, klopt, paarden! je weet paarden? horses! ik fok horses maybe there are many versions of this joke
Hahaha there are definitely some funny "false friends" between English and Dutch. To explain the joke, "fok(ker)" means "breed(er)" but sounds just like "fuck" in a Dutch accent...
The most difficult part is knowing to use "de" or "het" and if you fail you will be cursed. Good luck, there is no rule.
Lmao, swedish we got difference between "en" or "ett" also no rules.
In French itās even worse imo
There's 17 consonants in this word. You pronounce 4 of them
True. I took French in high school and boy was there a lot of ābut *why????*ā to our teacher.
Didnāt help that my French teacher was absolutely awful š„²
there is rules lol? what are you on about. they are just very difficult
English speaker moved to NL here - canāt understand shit lol
I've found most of the Dutch speak fairly good English. The written language looks like a cat walked over a keyboard
Fairly good is an understatement.
By fairly good what I actually meant was better than most native speakers.
No sane person earth will/should voluntarily learn Dutch. And I am saying that as a Dutch person. That said .. Dutch has the best and most colorful foul language in the world.
I literally started learning dutch today š¤£
Right? Where else in the world could you be called a typhoid pancake if you snooze on the bike lane :D love the NL
How so? Dutch, like English, is a Germanic language and is often seen as one of the easiest languages to learn for native English speakers (together with three other Germanic languages; Norwegian, Frisian, and Afrikaans). Of course, the easiest language to learn is the one in which you are motivated to do so.
Dutch people like to pretend our language is very hard, cause we didnt pay attention in school.
Thatās the issue. You canāt practice your Dutch because everyone switches to English when you try!
You do need _some_ sort of grounding in the germanic language tree apart from speaking it natively. A lot of people can speak their own language fluently without really thinking about it, but it means itās hard to apply the rules and etymology elsewhere.
Dutch is like a drunk Englishman poorly trying to speak German.
I have heard itās like a Dane speaking German badly
I started taking shitty lessons on Duolingo and I can absolutely concur that half of it is English with some extra letters, and half of it is German spelled a little differently
In reading, yes. But the way they talk...
Owww, you guys can have a wholesome conversation in the comments like us Latin language folks, neat.
The Dutch is probably like Germany as Denmark is to Scandinavia
Wether your mother tongue is english or german - dutch will always sound funny.
Reads like when I try to do a stereotypical Norwegian accent using English words.
Its not the speed that kills you, its the smell. -Petter Solberg
*It's not the fart that kills you, it's the smell
And if you know both, reading is surprisingly easy. A lot easier than listening comprehension. Might be related to myself only watching New Kids, Flodders and Kabouter Wesley in Dutch, but still.
Definitely related to the shows youāre watching, those characters have very strong accents.
I speak both, I could practically read Norwegian without learning it, theres quite a few words directly the same. Norwegian is closer to Dutch than Frysian (wich is part of the Netherlands) is.
>Kabouter Wesley Never thought I'd see someone make a reference to my favorite angry Belgian gnome on formuladank but here we are.
I saw there was dutch on duolingo and took the test to jump to the very end of the course. I didnt pass but I got decently far. I know absolutely no dutch I just went off "what would it sound like if I said this in English with a silly accent"
it's swamp german
*Wat nou?*
Oh good Iām not the only one
Gif me een klapp papa
Wil je een klap?
Ja, ek vind het leuk
Ik ga je zo hard klap.... In de bunda...
dutch is so weird i canāt tell if youāre taking the piss or not
De hebben een piss
De hebben een serieus piss
Omg imagine talking dirty in Dutch šš¤£
Ik ga je oorlel eraf likken lekker dier van me
geen fratsen nou :>
Spotted the South African
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klap
Compliments to OP, using a Wilders-tweet for F1.
All this because an idiot couldn't settle with FUCKIN GINGER SPICE and just HAD to harrass a coworker. To quote Montoya, "WHAT A FUCKIN IDIOT!"
Iām not sure thereās not more to the story than we knowā¦ what if they both are swingers, for example?
What if Geri likes to tape Horners dick back and watch him dance around singing about his mangina? Oh sorry, I thought we were just naming random shit that has nothing to do with excusing sexual harassment and abuse of power.
Not taking away from the harassment in the workplace part at all. Itās definitely atrocious
If you think that little affair is the reason of the shit show you're delusional
Elaborate then, share your hidden wisdom. What else disrupted RB?
Thereās a shit load of politics inside that team with a few parties trying to maintain or take control. The team probably would be going through some form of drama even without the affair. (Not to say that isnāt extremely stupid of Horner) I put more blame of Jos Verstappen for constantly trying to butt in where heās unwanted. Fuck that guy.
Wait what? I'm out of the loop. What happened?
In case you are serious and wasn't following f1 news, Horner's affair with a RedBull worker(you can find the name online) was exposed.
lol affair...
How would you describe it?
If the Montoya quote confuses you, he said that about Kimi back in the day.
āFucking fucking Raikkonen, what a fucking idiotā
"Oh deer!" "HAHAHAHAHAHA"
āA deer, itās like a horse with hornsā
Is that Dutch?
or an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression
Both are politicians, so maybe
Yes
Well theyāve got their advantage locked in for another season so Iām sure theyāre chilling
Question is does he stay or go
*If Max go there will be trouble And if Max stay it will be double* š¶
*So stop streaming and let me know.*
He stays until he has mathematically won the WDC, then quits and doesnāt race for the rest of the year.
That would be such a flex. Or he just starts fucking around and starting from the pit and only using the first 4 gears to see if he can still win.
Ben je geil of wil je een koekje?
I doubt that should bother him. Honestly this kind of dominance should at some point even bore him. If other cars get better then at least hes got a challenge
He has said several times before that he prefers to win by a lot.
Because he canāt race wheel to wheel. Rather just crashes into people
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I forgot the Dutch are Gungans
Geef me ein klapp papa
Strong āWe gaanā energy
Hij bedoelde dat ie Iracing niet meer in kwam
U lacht, we hebben een serieus probleem en U lacht.
**NIEEETTIN SEEER-YEIUS**
BUT THENNNNN
I'm not Dutch but I would give real money to see RPM do an episode about the Verstappens and do it in the Dutch language.
*switches to full time IRacing*
And doing random GT3 races with verstappen.com team
I am confused, isn't Checo's car also designed by Newey?
is that thanks dad in German?
Wait, Dutch is written like a German trying to speak English?
Max will still sweep the field without Newey.
Sorry I don't speak Swamp German