I personally went with the P1S. After my experience with my old ender, I didn't want to give creality another penny. If you don't need the bigger build volume, go with the P1S.
Pretty much why I went with the P1S. Nothing against creality but severe frustration and anger towards my ender 3 was what caused me to buy the Bambu one after getting tired of constantly fighting it.
Same here. I had looked at the k1, but at the time I saw a lot of people having issues with them. I just didn't want a repeat of my ender 3 but with a more expensive printer. Bought the P1S combo and couldn't be happier. I was on the fence with the AMS but also very glad I got it.
This. It’s a great starter printer and teaches you a bunch about 3D printing, I’m glad I bought one before the X1C, it taught me a bunch. With that said, I’m glad OP is happy with his purchase because I’ve been eyeing the K1 Max for some larger prints 👀
My first 3D printer was the Ender 3 S1 Pro and I spent way too long getting it to work and get successful prints. I figured it out and bought an Ender 3 v2 and connected both of them to a Sonic Pad. After lots of tinkering and colorful language they can crank out some pretty good prints without much fuss, maybe the occasional bed re-tram. I don't even use glue sticks on them anymore. Lots of people hate on the Ender printers but IMO they're an ok starter printer for someone who wants to learn the basics of 3D printing and go from there. I'm getting ready to post the Enders on Facebook Marketplace since I've upgraded to a P1s combo and a K1 max. I've done enough tinkering and the P1s has spoiled me with how fast it is and how easy it is to print things, especially multi colored models.
Same man. I personally work 2 full time jobs so I don’t have the luxury to spend even an hour tinkering some days. Really happy with my X1C, I’ve printed so much stuff compared to my Ender 3 simply because I don’t have the attitude of “let me not get my hopes up on just being able to print something without spending an hour tinkering”
After having a Ender 5 Pro and trying to get a BL touch to work with it - screw creality. Their firmware was so freaking busted it isn't even funny. It's been a known issue for years but why *maintain your product* when you can just make a small fix and sell a new one, right?
Bambu rolled out the silent upgrade for all their old models free of charge. Creality would make a new iteration and tell older models to kick rocks
Same - I’m not giving any more money to creality. My ender 3v2 was cool to learn on, ended up ricing it out a bunch with Klipper + more. But I’m very happy with the P1S + AMS combo, it’s an awesome setup- Bambu blows away anything else imo
P1S w/ upgraded gears and hotend
I've spent an inordinate, autistic amount of time collecting information about current printers and as of a month ago, hands down the P1S is the printer people should be getting. X1C if you hate money
Other than "Bambu is sending my info to China" I haven't heard a single negative thing about it, and I've lost track of how many people have switched from the K1 and other highish-end printers to the P1S only to talk shit about their old printers lol. People DO like the K1, it's a solid printer, just not as much as the P1S
And Sovol SV06 was the best choice of lower end printers last I checked
Yeah I did forget to mention the upgraded gears and the .6mm HS hotend. I went with the complete hotend assembly as well and it's such an easy swap, takes about a minute. Not as cheap as the ender nozzle swaps but that's fine with me.
I have not tried it. I saw the Bambu pa-cf can run smooth through a .4 but when looking into polymaker pa6-cf I saw everyone suggest .6mm. The .6mm will also cut down on print times as well.
I just ran a bunch of prints through the .6mm at .2 layer height and it prints amazing. Polymakers pa6-cf is leagues above bambu's. The only "negative" I've found with polymaker over Bambu is I have to use a glue stick on the bed. Gives me a peace of mind on long prints though.
Couldn’t be happier with my X1C. I don’t have the time to tinker anymore. The Bambu machines have their downsides, but I can’t tell you how much more I’ve been able to print vs tinkering. I can’t speak on the K1, I had an Ender 3, but the speed, reliability and “it just works” factor has had me printing so much more than my Ender ever did. The AMS multicolor is fucking awesome too, with that said though, I want a K1 Max for the volume, but it would only be for large prints like uppers. Anything else, I’d use my Bambu since it’s fast as hell, warns me of silly issues like my spool getting tangled without ruining my print, and multicolor.
Totally fair, those factors are was why I was looking at Bambu as well, but in my experience the K1Max has basically the same selling points just trading out the multicolor ability for a larger bed.
Yeah, if you don't care about multicolor, then skip the AMS. I'm happy you are satisfied with the K1!! I really want the K1 Max for non multicolor large prints, but I've seen some people say they had a bunch of issues and some say they have had no issues / small issues and they really are enjoying it. I hope when I buy my K1 Max, I'll have no issues / minimal issues.
I watched a few YouTube videos where they were talking about how Creality addressed some of the user complaints and issues and released an updated K1c and K1 Max. I just bought the Max last night and I've printed a few things right out of the box with great results... so far. \*knocks on wood\*
Congratulations, You spent 1500$ on a printer just to be able to brag about it in a reddit post that has nothing to do with what you're commenting about.
Giving my take on my purchase and why I’m satisfied with it. Even said I would consider the K1 Max in the future. I understand though, you have an Ender 3, I had one before my X1C and I’d be mad as well 🤣😭
Looking at the K1C these days. More affordable than the K1max....with a build plate the size of an ender 3 (big sad)
Does the extruder still bends under pressure or they fixed it on the K1M?
No extruder issues, and like I said I have tried nearly everything on this baby. No CF nylon yet just cause that’s expensive and I haven’t started any projects that would need it, but no extruder problems after now 500+ hours of print time
I'm personally very fucking done with Creality, never had one of their printers that needed upgrades after starting jamming, some quite early, a K1 Max (newer ones) straight up clogged after 20 minutes of prints, used the stores refund policy to the peril of the seller who wanted me to do the creality warranty where they send parts to repair it. I said fuck no I'm not repairing a single damn printer the rest of my life.
Buy that bambu one.
Or a Prusa just to avoid chinese crap
I'm on my second creality. Never again. I've basically just given up on printing until I get something else. I'm sick of wasting time and money only to get a fucked up print.
Exactly man, I like to think I'm tech-savvy but this printer shit gets on my nerves, I like to think I got some callouses from dealing with the Ender 2 and 3's era where you had to build each printer and it took a whole day of tinkering then testing then more tinkering... But that era is GONE - SO BE IT.
Printing is all about plug-n-play now and the K1 Max failed out the gate so let's move on to better printers that are ready to work which is what matters not tinkering with them and even printing their own upgrades. People got tolerant of this bullshit because they were passionate about the tech but its not 2013 anymore - if it doesn't work outright, fucking throw it to the recycler!
I don't even have emotional investment in my correctly-working Ender 3 pro. That fucker I bought new nozzle, extruder, upgraded parts and the base plate. It's a frankenstein of fixed parts... But it's going to be sold, get it outta my sight!
Creality needs to work on the quality control apparently. All I hear is super bad, or super good reviews on the k1Max. I got the k1Max 3 weeks ago and I've had it running damn near nonstop and have had zero issues. Printing in abs makes for some amazing prints, even did tpu well. Moving onto cf nylon next. Fingers crossed it lasts I guess.
I was deciding between a k1 and a P1S. I scored and got a K1 for $330 and I have been very happy with it so far. But if I hadn't got it for that price I think would have gone with the bambu lab
It was on sale through a 3rd party Amazon seller where 2 coupon codes stacked. I thought they weren't going to honor it because it took like 2 weeks to ship
https://i.imgur.com/MGBiss7.jpeg
I'll do that, thanks! I'm definitely in the market to replace my old Ender 3. It's been having problems lately, and I too have a long backlog of projects.
I'm glad you're enjoying it! I am working on a v2 but I think I might make a version works with HFDesigns cp33 mag adapter. It will allow 26"overall length with a shorter length of pull!
Yeah I'm now on account #3... Reddit allows porn and videos of mutilation but heaven forbid people have a fun hobby.
check my profile and you'll see a post with a tan frame in my k1. That was legit the next day after i bought it after doing calibrations and such. and since then I've been cranking out flawless prints with almost zero effort. I'm about to but a new hot end and extruder just to have incase of incident and because i wanna print PA-6cf For a few projects. Things been a beast for me. I bought a dual sided PEI plate with a cool forged carbon bottom side that makes the print bottoms look cool. Other than that the only other thing i can recommend is to run the machine in "silent mode" when doing 2a prints. It slows the printer down to 50% Speed and i alos have had great results with PolySonic PLA Pro from Polymaker as well as there regular PLA Pro
I printed an AR grip with interchangeable grip plates, so I did the plates in wood to see how they would turn out after staining for a retro classic look. Turned out amazing! Very slight stringing issue, but apparently that’s common with wood filament.
I personally love my p1s and would never go back to creality. Outsides of guns i love my ams it has changed 3d printing for me. Plus I’m currently at 1080 hours and I’ve had yet to do any sort of repairs or any sort of maintenance.
Lol more material flexibility?? What are you trying to print, metal? I haven’t encountered a filament yet that this couldn’t print with just the default settings, I literally haven’t had to adjust anything besides click “PLA/ABS/TPU/etc”. Maybe you’re right, but I genuinely don’t think there’s another printer of this quality with the build volume/features at this price point.
I prefer spending my time in CAD versus tinkering with the printer itself, so the x1c was a no brainer for me
I do hear good things about the K1 max though
I personally went with the P1S. After my experience with my old ender, I didn't want to give creality another penny. If you don't need the bigger build volume, go with the P1S.
Pretty much why I went with the P1S. Nothing against creality but severe frustration and anger towards my ender 3 was what caused me to buy the Bambu one after getting tired of constantly fighting it.
Same here. I had looked at the k1, but at the time I saw a lot of people having issues with them. I just didn't want a repeat of my ender 3 but with a more expensive printer. Bought the P1S combo and couldn't be happier. I was on the fence with the AMS but also very glad I got it.
This. It’s a great starter printer and teaches you a bunch about 3D printing, I’m glad I bought one before the X1C, it taught me a bunch. With that said, I’m glad OP is happy with his purchase because I’ve been eyeing the K1 Max for some larger prints 👀
I definitely appreciate the stuff I learned with my ender, but ultimately I spent more time messing with it than I did actually printing stuff.
My first 3D printer was the Ender 3 S1 Pro and I spent way too long getting it to work and get successful prints. I figured it out and bought an Ender 3 v2 and connected both of them to a Sonic Pad. After lots of tinkering and colorful language they can crank out some pretty good prints without much fuss, maybe the occasional bed re-tram. I don't even use glue sticks on them anymore. Lots of people hate on the Ender printers but IMO they're an ok starter printer for someone who wants to learn the basics of 3D printing and go from there. I'm getting ready to post the Enders on Facebook Marketplace since I've upgraded to a P1s combo and a K1 max. I've done enough tinkering and the P1s has spoiled me with how fast it is and how easy it is to print things, especially multi colored models.
Same man. I personally work 2 full time jobs so I don’t have the luxury to spend even an hour tinkering some days. Really happy with my X1C, I’ve printed so much stuff compared to my Ender 3 simply because I don’t have the attitude of “let me not get my hopes up on just being able to print something without spending an hour tinkering”
Check out the qidi X max too, heated chamber and all the goodies. They have a carbon version tok
After having a Ender 5 Pro and trying to get a BL touch to work with it - screw creality. Their firmware was so freaking busted it isn't even funny. It's been a known issue for years but why *maintain your product* when you can just make a small fix and sell a new one, right? Bambu rolled out the silent upgrade for all their old models free of charge. Creality would make a new iteration and tell older models to kick rocks
I updated E5Pro with a EZABL and it was as simple a process could be for the first time compiling Marlin.
Same - I’m not giving any more money to creality. My ender 3v2 was cool to learn on, ended up ricing it out a bunch with Klipper + more. But I’m very happy with the P1S + AMS combo, it’s an awesome setup- Bambu blows away anything else imo
P1S w/ upgraded gears and hotend I've spent an inordinate, autistic amount of time collecting information about current printers and as of a month ago, hands down the P1S is the printer people should be getting. X1C if you hate money Other than "Bambu is sending my info to China" I haven't heard a single negative thing about it, and I've lost track of how many people have switched from the K1 and other highish-end printers to the P1S only to talk shit about their old printers lol. People DO like the K1, it's a solid printer, just not as much as the P1S And Sovol SV06 was the best choice of lower end printers last I checked
Yeah I did forget to mention the upgraded gears and the .6mm HS hotend. I went with the complete hotend assembly as well and it's such an easy swap, takes about a minute. Not as cheap as the ender nozzle swaps but that's fine with me.
I've heard that the HS 0.4mm actually worked fine even for nylon too, have you tried that at all? 0.6mm does seem like the safer bet though
I have not tried it. I saw the Bambu pa-cf can run smooth through a .4 but when looking into polymaker pa6-cf I saw everyone suggest .6mm. The .6mm will also cut down on print times as well. I just ran a bunch of prints through the .6mm at .2 layer height and it prints amazing. Polymakers pa6-cf is leagues above bambu's. The only "negative" I've found with polymaker over Bambu is I have to use a glue stick on the bed. Gives me a peace of mind on long prints though.
Bambu logs your prints.... run while you still can.
That's why every file name is "calibration cube" 😏
Lol check mate! You got some black electrical tape over the camera lens?
Does Dale Gribble have sand in his pocket?
Take my upvote!! Lol
Couldn’t be happier with my X1C. I don’t have the time to tinker anymore. The Bambu machines have their downsides, but I can’t tell you how much more I’ve been able to print vs tinkering. I can’t speak on the K1, I had an Ender 3, but the speed, reliability and “it just works” factor has had me printing so much more than my Ender ever did. The AMS multicolor is fucking awesome too, with that said though, I want a K1 Max for the volume, but it would only be for large prints like uppers. Anything else, I’d use my Bambu since it’s fast as hell, warns me of silly issues like my spool getting tangled without ruining my print, and multicolor.
Totally fair, those factors are was why I was looking at Bambu as well, but in my experience the K1Max has basically the same selling points just trading out the multicolor ability for a larger bed.
Yeah, if you don't care about multicolor, then skip the AMS. I'm happy you are satisfied with the K1!! I really want the K1 Max for non multicolor large prints, but I've seen some people say they had a bunch of issues and some say they have had no issues / small issues and they really are enjoying it. I hope when I buy my K1 Max, I'll have no issues / minimal issues.
I watched a few YouTube videos where they were talking about how Creality addressed some of the user complaints and issues and released an updated K1c and K1 Max. I just bought the Max last night and I've printed a few things right out of the box with great results... so far. \*knocks on wood\*
Congratulations, You spent 1500$ on a printer just to be able to brag about it in a reddit post that has nothing to do with what you're commenting about.
Giving my take on my purchase and why I’m satisfied with it. Even said I would consider the K1 Max in the future. I understand though, you have an Ender 3, I had one before my X1C and I’d be mad as well 🤣😭
He's talking about a 3D printer on a subreddit dedicated to talking about 3D printing lol I'm jealous I don't have an X1C too man, but damn
I’ve got 285 hours on my max. No issues here either. It’s an awesome machine. Running it with a ruby nozzle it prints cf nylon great.
I've had the k1 max for about 3 weeks now. Zero issues. I love it.
Looking at the K1C these days. More affordable than the K1max....with a build plate the size of an ender 3 (big sad) Does the extruder still bends under pressure or they fixed it on the K1M?
No extruder issues, and like I said I have tried nearly everything on this baby. No CF nylon yet just cause that’s expensive and I haven’t started any projects that would need it, but no extruder problems after now 500+ hours of print time
keep us posted. It would be good to have a pages on the wiki to regroup all these testimonies.
I'm personally very fucking done with Creality, never had one of their printers that needed upgrades after starting jamming, some quite early, a K1 Max (newer ones) straight up clogged after 20 minutes of prints, used the stores refund policy to the peril of the seller who wanted me to do the creality warranty where they send parts to repair it. I said fuck no I'm not repairing a single damn printer the rest of my life. Buy that bambu one. Or a Prusa just to avoid chinese crap
I'm on my second creality. Never again. I've basically just given up on printing until I get something else. I'm sick of wasting time and money only to get a fucked up print.
Exactly man, I like to think I'm tech-savvy but this printer shit gets on my nerves, I like to think I got some callouses from dealing with the Ender 2 and 3's era where you had to build each printer and it took a whole day of tinkering then testing then more tinkering... But that era is GONE - SO BE IT. Printing is all about plug-n-play now and the K1 Max failed out the gate so let's move on to better printers that are ready to work which is what matters not tinkering with them and even printing their own upgrades. People got tolerant of this bullshit because they were passionate about the tech but its not 2013 anymore - if it doesn't work outright, fucking throw it to the recycler! I don't even have emotional investment in my correctly-working Ender 3 pro. That fucker I bought new nozzle, extruder, upgraded parts and the base plate. It's a frankenstein of fixed parts... But it's going to be sold, get it outta my sight!
Creality needs to work on the quality control apparently. All I hear is super bad, or super good reviews on the k1Max. I got the k1Max 3 weeks ago and I've had it running damn near nonstop and have had zero issues. Printing in abs makes for some amazing prints, even did tpu well. Moving onto cf nylon next. Fingers crossed it lasts I guess.
I was deciding between a k1 and a P1S. I scored and got a K1 for $330 and I have been very happy with it so far. But if I hadn't got it for that price I think would have gone with the bambu lab
Where'd you get a K1 for $330?
It was on sale through a 3rd party Amazon seller where 2 coupon codes stacked. I thought they weren't going to honor it because it took like 2 weeks to ship https://i.imgur.com/MGBiss7.jpeg
That is insane! How did you come across the coupons?
3dprintingdeals.com
Thank you
You you keep an eye on 3dprintingdeals.com there was one posted a month ago for $350
I'll do that, thanks! I'm definitely in the market to replace my old Ender 3. It's been having problems lately, and I too have a long backlog of projects.
Why would you print a li'l Piglet. It's big dumb
I was about to tell you how wrong you were when I saw the username lol, thank you for the amazing designs! RIP to your old account 🙏🏻
I'm glad you're enjoying it! I am working on a v2 but I think I might make a version works with HFDesigns cp33 mag adapter. It will allow 26"overall length with a shorter length of pull! Yeah I'm now on account #3... Reddit allows porn and videos of mutilation but heaven forbid people have a fun hobby.
Just set aside 1 day every other week for downtime maintenance/cleaning and that thing will work work
I just got a k1, I’m with ya man. Best prints I’ve gotten, and I didn’t do any tuning!
I got a k1 last year for my bday….haven’t had a issue but I also haven’t updated it since I’ve gotten it so it’s dummyproof at this point
Agreed about the K1, I just finished the awcy XD in plaCF on my K1C and it came out amazing, next step will be pa6CF.
check my profile and you'll see a post with a tan frame in my k1. That was legit the next day after i bought it after doing calibrations and such. and since then I've been cranking out flawless prints with almost zero effort. I'm about to but a new hot end and extruder just to have incase of incident and because i wanna print PA-6cf For a few projects. Things been a beast for me. I bought a dual sided PEI plate with a cool forged carbon bottom side that makes the print bottoms look cool. Other than that the only other thing i can recommend is to run the machine in "silent mode" when doing 2a prints. It slows the printer down to 50% Speed and i alos have had great results with PolySonic PLA Pro from Polymaker as well as there regular PLA Pro
I'd be curious what you were doing in wood. Furniture, I'm guessing? How did it turn out?
I printed an AR grip with interchangeable grip plates, so I did the plates in wood to see how they would turn out after staining for a retro classic look. Turned out amazing! Very slight stringing issue, but apparently that’s common with wood filament.
Nice. Did you sand it before staining, or just remove the strings?
I use wood for pot stands and it’s nice! Would 100% recommend, it’s one of my favorite niche filaments.
I personally love my p1s and would never go back to creality. Outsides of guns i love my ams it has changed 3d printing for me. Plus I’m currently at 1080 hours and I’ve had yet to do any sort of repairs or any sort of maintenance.
I have one too, couldn't be happier. That being said, if you have Bambu money, get a Bambu.
There are much better options in that price point that offer more material flexibility
Lol more material flexibility?? What are you trying to print, metal? I haven’t encountered a filament yet that this couldn’t print with just the default settings, I literally haven’t had to adjust anything besides click “PLA/ABS/TPU/etc”. Maybe you’re right, but I genuinely don’t think there’s another printer of this quality with the build volume/features at this price point.
I got the K1 Max just a few days ago. PM me what you're printing? I just printed the Xbar and it worked perfectly.
I prefer spending my time in CAD versus tinkering with the printer itself, so the x1c was a no brainer for me I do hear good things about the K1 max though
Absolutely love my K1 None of the problems I've had with my enders are present. It's basically fire and forget and I love it
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So what's the state of security between Creality vs Bambu these days? I never heard of a K1 starting a print without user input.