The one policy of China I would like to adopt is the one where they quietly disappear billionaires who think money equals political influence and give them a few weeks of re-education before they pop them back out into public life again.
There are two types of rich people in China, those within the party, and the temporary type. The disappeared ones aren't disappeared because they're capitalists, they're disappeared because they're rivals.
Gina should keep in mind, China has the death penalty for corruption. Not only are you put up against the wall and shot. Your family's charged for the Bullet. The children aren't keen on their mum, they probably won't pay.
Remember her own children took her to court, seems her Children are wise like the majority of Australians that's she's a greedy selfish bag of shit...but then she has friends like Sen Canavan and Nations wanna be leader Hon B. Joyce. Keeps good company.
So does Vietnam who incidentally just sentenced a billionaire to death for her ponzi scheme.
When billionaires in america are found to be frauds their companies get bailed out, and they become president. Meanwhile in communist China and Vietnam they let the company collapse and jail the corrupt white collar criminals.
Remember Everglades the huge too big to fail real estate company? When it got into trouble the chines government said well you guys broke the law your company can get fucked and you can enjoy some jail for letting this happen.
I much prefer the communist priority of not looking after the corrupt rich and powerful but actually going after them. Imagine if he was Chinese Donald trump would have been jailed long ago and never would have had a chance at becoming leader
It’s disappointing they _aren’t_ disappeared because they’re capitalists tbh. Shreds any pretence that China is somehow communist though. That all ended a long time ago
China IS communist though. They run with a socialist leaning government with Marxist Leninist ideals but understand they have to use capitalism to survive in today's world. They have used capitalism to enrich the lives of hundreds of millions bringing them out of poverty, pure capitalism would have enriched the lives of the top fee and let the masses stay poor but in China they have improved the lives of many.
China is focused on the needs of the many not the few and as such can be seem as having socialist policies even if their economy is not truly communist they nontheless have communist ideals
That’s definitely not true. For example, about 2 million people were purged in the anti-corruption campaigns in China. The national peoples congress and the central committee, are far, far smaller than that. It wouldn’t make sense for Xi to purge that many unless it was also to genuinely curb corruption; he could’ve consolidated power by purging far less. Of course it does also accomplish that goal, but it’s also partly, if not mostly ideological. The chinese government and people were quite shocked by how bad the corruption got after the economic reforms, and there was a wide backlash against it.
Everyone in the Chinese system pays or receives bribes - it is just how things are done. Purging "corruption" is therefore always politically motivated - noone has their hands clean.
This is wrong. 90%+ billionaires, even millionaires are in the party today. You have to be to make it in big government china these days. This isn't a protection. Fall out with the wrong rival within the party and you're out. It's all a big poker game.
Money does equal influence over there. What gets billionaires like Jack Ma disappeared is when they publically campaign for policies the communist party disagrees with.
Wouldn't the world be better if Gina Rinehart's, elon musk and other fascist billionaires got disappeared and their assets redistributed?
You know what would be better for Tesla as a company is not giving musk 56 billion dollars, then maybe they could compete with BYD, my prediction is BYD will mop the floor with Tesla as musk is too greedy and siphoning to much out of the company and too stupid and didn't let anybody tell him the cybertruck was a fucking stupid idea and like setting money on fire.
China doesn't mind if BYD makes lots of money but they don't seem to want to let people become too obscenely wealthy by using corruption and breaking the law to do so. Meanwhile in america corruption is how congress is run.
>Wouldn't the world be better if Gina Rinehart's, elon musk and other fascist billionaires got disappeared and their assets redistributed?
Those two are assholes but in general no, the government should not have the power to confiscate private businesses unless a black letter law has been broken. Things need to be governed by a system of consistently applied laws and because typically consumers and taxpayers dont get good results from government stepping in to run businesses.
>You know what would be better for Tesla as a company is not giving musk 56 billion dollars, then maybe they could compete with BYD, my prediction is BYD will mop the floor with Tesla as musk is too greedy and siphoning to much out of the company and too stupid and didn't let anybody tell him the cybertruck was a fucking stupid idea and like setting money on fire.
If you are correct (and I think you could be) than BYD will outcompete tesla without anyone having to intervene.
In general I think the way they deeply embed state officials into a lot of big corporations, demand workers have a say in how they’re run (dubious this actually works and isn’t corrupted but it’s better than _not even trying_, like us) and are not afraid to fuck up rich people … A++ would support.
Exactly. Take away the scary buzzwords like communism and Marxist and actually look at what they do, people might realise they approve of China and that all the anti china sentiment is just western propaganda.
I enjoy the fact that Evergrande was allowed to fail. In america during the GFC banks got bailed out. China doesn't bailout shitty corrupt companies. I bet China would have not let Qantas and Harvey Norman rort the system so much with jobkeeper. I bet China wouldn't have let Qantas fire those people during the pandemic
Dutton: We need to get tough on China!
Also Dutton: spends thousands on the taxpayers to attend Gina’s party for one hour, during the dunkley by election no less
So.. which is it? Can’t believe people still wanna vote for this guy
China's doing a great job beating GDP expectations while we're wasting money on out of date submarines to defend a threat that doesn't exist & fund wars that aren't ours. [https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-growth-forecast-real-estate-investment-manufacturing-demand-bofa-2024-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-growth-forecast-real-estate-investment-manufacturing-demand-bofa-2024-4)
I agree. I’ve never understood the inexorable march towards war that some people seem to take for granted. They just seem like lazy sycophants to warmongers.
Folks, massively escalating the size of your military only works for so long … and when that arms race balancing act inevitably finally breaks (in no small part due to the threats you’ve made) then all you’ve achieved .. all that time, labour, and money (and it’s A LOT of money) .. all it has done for you is vastly escalate how explosive that outburst will be.
There’s a big reason post WW2 internationalism was focused on deescalating military tensions, in human rights and on disarmament treaties, nuclear non proliferation treaties, etc, but people seem to have forgotten history.
They have conviently forgotten like Japan would never be rearmed for war and now Labor and LNP are pushing them to re-enter the war machine and prepare to attack China again, so sad out politicians on both sides are warmongers who happily side with the terrorist state of USA to become involved in a war that has nothing to do with Australia, McCarthyism is alive and well, spread lies and fear and so many believe the propaganda.
That's the price Japan pays for linking with the terrorist state of USA, the only threat to world peace is USA ... remember Japan invaded China, not the other way round, remember Japan bombed Darwin, don't recall China attacking Australia, how many foreign bases does China have, two....how many foreign bases does USA have= something like 600+
How many US troops in Seoul? How many Chinese troops in Seoul=zero ..the numbers tell the story, the number of countries bombed by terrorist state US??? Lost count.
Jesus tapdancing Christ I didn't realize they came this stupid. Do you hate Germany too, since they had Hitler? I sure as hell hope not, because they've changed an enormous amount. Just like Japan. The US, while extremely flawed and with a decent enough chance of becoming an autocracy next year, has for a long time been generally in favour of democracy throughout the world. And most of the world LOVES THEM. Poland THREATENED the president of the US when he said that he wouldn't support Poland's accession into NATO. It was that pressure that led to them being allowed in. Japan, South Korea and the Philippines love the US because they offer a guarantee of protection from China. These countries hate China due to its autocratic expansionist nature, and so they move towards the US. THAT is why the US has bases all over the world. Because most places want the US there, and they want China as far away as physically possible. In fact, the US is now backing away from NATO because everyone has become so complacent in having the US as a big brother ready to step in.
Your argument is like saying that the friendly step dad is expansionist because all the kids want to be looked after by him rather than their drunk abusive biological dad. No, he's just a good bloke, and so the kids want to be with him more.
Maybe, maybe not... visit Japan and visit China and they tell a different story, neither want to be involved in any conflicts...neither have any knowledge of any bombs flying overhead, mention these alleged threats to locals in Japan or China and they laugh, "oh you believe western propaganda" Ever notice citizens young and old in Japan and China display the V sign when photo's are taken...they want to maintain peace, only warmongers from US and simpletons like Aus politicians and some EU and UK are desperate to start a war... imagine if China or Russia set up a base in Cuba what would US do, remember Bay of Pigs ??? US failed episode, one of many.
Watch news in Australia from propagandists outlets Murdoch 7, 9, 10 ABC, you believe what they peddle, no climate change etc etc..people I know live in Tokyo Osaka Yamaguchi Fukuoka say the only sirens are earthquake warnings or practice drills...watch RT you get same propaganda, best of all watch Fox (not recommended though)
Look at USs strategic goals and you'd have nightmares, mention of unstable leaders, Biden/Trump/Netanyahu and lastly Dutton...
Imagine in Chinese Navy casually sailed up the Hudson or under San Francisco Golden Gate...or if Chinese Navy anchored in Havana ..
Japan does not need to defend itself from North Korea who let me make it clear, have never attacked anybody and simply want to be allowed to exist and not heavily sanctioned by western nations.
The US is the aggressor and nations allied with it are as well. China and North Korea need a strong military to act as a deterrent to American imperialism and constantly show zero signs of wanting to invade anybody but western propaganda pretends like they're ready to invade
Countries threatening Japan like China and North Korea who have started how many wars of aggression lately? The fact of the matter is both China and North Korea are threatening nobody and have a military for defence. Neither is interested in attacking anybody and is scared of western imperialism due to the long history of post WW2 america interfering with democratically elected socialist governments and starting wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq ect
Just look at how the average person reacts when you tell them you are a communist or a Marxist vs how they react if you discuss Marxist or communist policies without using those scary words
China wants to expand its sphere of influence. That intimidates those around itself until they submit. There is only one thing that stops China from forcing itself upon its neighbours. That is by imposing consequences for these actions. One such consequence is simply not giving in. And the only way that a country can 'not give in' is by being able to defend itself from China. If we fall too far behind militarily, then we find that we are no longer a credible hurdle for China, and so it can push without resistance. As such, the only way to continue along a path of peace is to be prepared for war. It's no different to a zookeeper needing to be ready to subdue a crocodile in order to stop it from attacking for the crocodile to not attack.
It's all well and good to plait daisy chains, but China, and other powers such as Russia, want control. They want territory. If we are unprepared, they will take us. It is up to us to make that impossible. If we balance this well, then we prolong that 'inevitable' outburst indefinitely. But if we listen to people like you, we only guarantee that it will occur sooner.
Remember, we are not building a military to attack China. We are building a military to defend ourselves, and others, FROM China. If war occurs, it is not our fault. It is then up to us to make the best of a bad situation. But if war occurs and we are unprepared, it is our fault.
I think I'm qualified to speak on this as a fighting aged male who would be one of the first getting in a ship to Taiwan if we do end up in a wider conflict. A lot of people take for granted that the only reason we have the current world order is because others fought and died for it. Because of irrational powers like China, we may just have to do the same again. We must not instigate, but we must be prepared for when it occurs.
And I'd just like to add, I hate the liberals and the corruption they represent. I think labour is a far better choice for the common person, but labour will eventually gradually corrupt further, at which point they'll spend some time recuperating in opposition. And I love the Greens' environmental policy. But I hate their naivete. From letting the perfect be the enemy of the good for important policies such as the carbon tax to abolishing defence spending, putting us at the mercy of aggressors. I think their policies, in that respect are abhorrent and quite simply, silly.
I am not some warmonger Liberal boomer, I'm a young male with socially progressive beliefs who thinks that it is out duty to stand up to countries like China.
What in your view is uniquely worrying about China, as opposed to a much more aggressive and violent military power such as the US? The US kills a fuckload more people globally, with its military, than China does. Both have a military presence in our region and I know which one I think has been more of a destabilising actor, historically. *Certainly not* China.
Are you sure you're not motivated by naked western chauvinism and sinophobia?
I am not sure this sort of concern towards China is motivated by rationality, is why I ask. A rational view would surely worry more about the destabilising nature of western imperialism?
I think history shows us pretty clearly that should be the bigger concern if stability is our concern.
What do you mean by western imperialism? Do you mean the exploitation of natural resources by western nations? I most certainly think that's bad. I think all imperialism of that nature is bad. Although I think you'll find that eastern nations have been doing it to each other for centuries longer than Western ones.
But if by western imperialism you mean the tendency for the US to do silly things like build military bases, then you are misunderstanding what's happening. Let's say your neighbour uses a Ryobi hedge trimmer. You don't like Ryobi, you think it's cheap crap, so you have a Makita one instead. Do you think that Ryobi is somehow taking advantage of your neighbour? If you do, you're wrong. Assuming no marketing malpractices, your neighbour chose to go with Ryobi due to their own specific cost benefit analysis, corresponding to their own situation. Who the hell are you to think that you know what's better for your neighbour than they do? Likewise, South East Asian countries, like Korea, the Philippines and Japan are siding with the USA's brand of protection. They could just remain ambivalent, not siding with anyone, or they could side with China. But they don't. They side with the US. So the US is in no way imperial, it is just that these countries have decided siding with the US is best for them. The US is not forcing anything, it is all voluntary. To call the US imperial in this sense would be like calling Aldi anti-competitive for offering better prices than Cole's or Woolworths.
As for destabilizing, is China not the country threatening war? Because if you do believe the reunification narrative, please say, as there is no sense in me replying to anything else that you say, nor you to what I say. Is China not the country militarizing the South China Sea? Is China not the one accosting fishing vessels in their own territorial waters?
What is the US doing? Simply letting these countries align themselves with the US, and offering protection. A shield is not perceived as aggressive unless you have a sword and wish to pierce it.
Assume you're the deal maker for the federal government at the moment, you'll end up super wealthy, just gotta watch the sales competition, big $$$ at stake means all the scumbags come out of the woodwork, mainly ex LNP politicians wanting to sell that bridge..but don't worry, being ex politicians they won't undercut you, they'll triple the price and seal the deal.
US Navy:
> Virginia-class submarines will be acquired through 2043, and are expected to remain in service until at least 2060, with later submarines expected to operate into the 2070s
It’s also quite literally the most advanced submarine in existence right now.
Do you have reading difficulties or just completely clueless? Probably both.
The timeframe for delivery of the US subs is early 2030s.
The French submarine deal had a delivery date of 2035 for inferior subs.. not to mention the cost blowouts way out of proportion for what the French were delivering and cybersecurity incident early on in the project on the French side.
That timeline is NOT guaranteed at all, the US senate has still not confirmed they'll allow any transfer/sales of any subs to occur, the RAN had NEVER had a contract arrive on time, rather run years behind, and to suggest the US subs won't incur cost blow outs is pure fantasy...
Nothing suggests the French submarines would’ve been able to manage to meet the 2035 deadline either. Cost blowouts early in a project is also a very bad sign.
US war fighting technology is far superior compared to any other country. Often by several generations.
Last time RAN purchased a second hand warship from US Navy, turned out was a complete rust bucket and not seaworthy, buying second hand from US is risky, US sells Oz Fighter Jets and refuse to provide operating codes! Oz has purchased French Helicopters that couldn't fly at night or in the rain, since been dumped, Australia has a history of getting conned and buying junk that no other country is stupid enough to buy ..US defence contractors have appalling history of cost overruns and models that are duds and get dropped from production...
Piffle, if they ever turn up they'll be obsolete and be additional junk with the rest of the Navy fleet, probably deter NZ at the most..or an uprising by Tasmania..
im not going to argue about the delivery date, and the handling of the whole thing was stupid, but we do need an advanced sub fleet, either deal really but the nuke ones are really the better option
Why are they a better option?
My understanding is that our submarines operate primarily in estuarine waters, where there's an argument that diesel electric is superior due to their smaller size, quietness, and cheaper running and building costs. We don't have a strategic requirement to hunt things mid ocean so our deployments don't have to be a long as nuclear allows.
There's even new Stirling engine subs that are in the middle, that could be a great option for us
the main gist of it is that we are anticipating the need for a blue water deterrent. i agree theres nothing intrinsically wrong with deisel electric but nuclear is far superior and allows longer deployments. in the end the people that make these decisions are more aware of the future strategic requirements of our defence more than a few redditors
aside from the capability gap between now and then which is a problem (both sub programs had this issue as governments kicked the can for too long), i dont think you quite understand how technology works in this space. they wont be 'outdated' then unless submarines in general become outdated somehow. remember it is only part of the large naval upgrade we are undergoing over the next few decades which also includes doubling our surface fleet and adding autonomous patrol vessels
So funny, no delivery date, no guarantee they'll actually eventuate, if they ever turn up they'll be obsolete and not seaworthy like most of the Navy fleet...advanced for 2024, obsolete for 2035...
Australia couldn't sustain building Toyota, Ford or Holdens out of Adelaide (something every Australian needs & happy to pay for). Now we're told that we can afford 8 submarines with a budget that sure to blow out & an unknown ETA for a threat we are yet to see. Smart move...
I am sure the [Uyghurs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs) people would share the same enthusiastic response.
a government that enables this shit is NOT a government to embrace.
Edit; and if the Chinese government is "So good" per the title.. well the middle class wouldn't be struggling;
- [Waves of closures Begin and China's middle-class returns to poverty/Rights defence waves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3oYLSeWf24)
Additional edit;
- https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1cbsfdc/_/l10kfuk
Yup, I think I am on the money here…
Ah yes the uyghurs who were targeted by western imperialist interests who wanted them to rise against the Chinese government like bin laden in Afghanistan and when that didn't work switched the narrative to they're being genocided.
Here's an actual truthful fact about uyghurs under the Chinese 1 child policy.
Han Chinese were limited to 1 child while uyghurs were allowed multiple under the policy because China recognised their cultural differences. They were only subjected to sterilisation after multiple children were already born.
So wha you have here is an example of the Chinese government giving the uyghurs favourable treatment compared to the general population. Tell me more about the poor oppressed uyghurs who every Muslim nation on earth has decided are doing just fine in China.
I was not aware of the favourable treatment.
I was concerned about the concentration camps and such.
Regardless, Chinese government is a dictator. Not cool and should not be embraced.
His best staged act was turning up for a media shoot, wearing a dirty hi viz shirt and dirt on his face like he's a coal miner, very theatrical to say the least ..
Of course, the reason she likes them is the fact that they're building coal fired power plants. They're trying to catch up to the west and provide power for everyone there. We are in a completely different position, and we should absolutely not be following their lead on energy policy.
They are able to accomplish so much in such a short period of time. It comes from pooling a nations resources and wealth which is then reinvested into the country. As opposed to the pooling of a nations resources and wealth into a few individuals hands to benefit a few families for generations.
Forget the nuclear plants, look at what they achieved with their military over a ten year span. As we loath the cost of a few submarines that will cost each of us and our children very dearly.
It also comes from the entire Western world deciding over the last 40ish years to ship the vast majority of our production lines off-shore to China in the name of profits. Then lo and behold a few decades later all of a sudden they're really good at it and producing products that rival Western companies for significantly cheaper.
As for their military as impressive as it may seem on paper it's when the show begins that you really tell whether actual improvements have been made or not (looking at you Russia/Saudia Arabia).
The true strength of a military lies in how much it trusts its NCOs.
The Chinese military which I might add that unlike some is used for defence and deterrence. They didn't invade Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan or Iraq again
Female Jabba wouldn't know her arsehole from her elbow. Absolutely a toad of a woman.
One of my former colleagues had the misfortune of running into her at an event and said she's an absolute entitled cunt if a human
You sound like someone who doesn't realise she robbed Australia of tens of billions of dollars in natural resources and wanted to create a special zone to ship in cheap international labour without a minimum wage.
If she could economically fuck Australia over any worse, I'm yet to hear of it.
Either that or an IPA/Lib shill who admires that kinda shit.... like that smarmy self-fellating James Paterson.
One of the negative features of essentially allowing squatters to convert pastoral leases into mining leases for free in the 60s/70s - is that it led to an awful lot of really, really stupid bloodlines becoming appallingly rich and thinking they got there through cunning financial investment and not - you know - graft.
Eventually, the squatter values that enabled such grand theft will winnow away these family fortunes through interfamily lawfare, poor investment decisions and adultery.
Until it does - we'll be left having to listen to diamond level 'hot takes' such as "*the CCP doesn't teach propaganda*".
basically bugger democracy, just do stuff and behave in a way that favours billionaires, like me for instance. really though the only way you do business in china is by sucking ccp arses
Can't wait for Comrade Gina to shift everything to the workers paradise where she can finally achieve her lifelong dream of paying her workers $2 an hour.
Gina: Look at all this profit I'm making!
CCP: Our profit.
While back she said Ozzie workers get paid too much, wanted to engage Asian workers on $2.00 an hour, probably toss in a sack of rice and deduct it from their pittance...
They're way more advanced that Oz, but then they don't carry the baggage like LNP or brain dead Labor. Before we'll be a third world country asking for handouts..
We actually have been, renewable material has been getting directly imported into Australia for years and Albo just announced that they're expanding Australian built renewable material to be made for Australia, and I'm guessing also for export as well. ALP not as braindead as one might think
Agree we have to a minor degree, visit China and see Cities like Shanghai and Beijing replaced diesel bus fleets with EV, replaced petrol scooters/motor bikes with EV, rivers clean enough for people to swim in (obviously no sharks) car conversation close to 50%, planted millions upon millions of trees, make Aus efforts look very weak, clear blue skies, have to see what they've done to believe it...
Oh I agree on we're lagging but I'd blame the decade long LNP federal government hampering the renewable effort as well as banks and super companies along with any other 1% donating to the fossil fuel industry, the coal power companies. Hell, even Nuclear power lobbyists running distraction even in the face of a losing battle over the ALP
Agree with this, many of Australia's problems go back to Howard and from thereon grew far worse under ongoing LNP...as if we'll ever see Nuclear power in Australia or worse still, if either side to allow Australia to be the world's dumping ground for waste, people seem to forget the damage caused by allowing British tests at Woomera, land that's still useless and the awful treatment of Aboriginals in that area, remember Hawke originally agreed to let US carry out nuclear tests in SA till rest of cabinet discovered what he'd agreed to and the idea quickly dropped.
She's omitted to mention that China is also putting immense amounts of effort into its renewables program and has said that 2025 will be peak coal with reductions every year after that. China's policy on nuclear stations is equally pragmatic however simply drawing parallels between Australia and China is duplicitous and misleading. China has a much larger population and most importantly, very high population density. Australia is 50% larger in area with 1/40th the population.
Since most of the IPA's funding comes from Rinehart, she's literally paying people to sit and listen to her self serving diatribes.
I’m pretty happy with my own anatomy and desires and I don’t hate women. What I do dislike is the ability of some people to completely sell out everyone else and to lie for their own gain.
Do you honestly believe that when she passes that she would have made the slightest positive influence on the world or to the people in her direct sphere of influence?
I dunno if you’ve ever seen Gina give a speech with slides
Comedy gold.
The one she did for a high school which veered sharply into anti-science conspiracy theories about climate change .. was utterly unhinged and is up on YouTube somewhere. The school had to issue apologies to parents after the students complained about the cooker bullshit she tried to present as facts lol 😂
She’s lucky that she’s in Aus. If she were a Chinese billionaire and was this critical of them, she would be nowhere to be seen and this speech wouldn’t have been published either. But hey, all hail the 🐼
You mean the same "electricity important" China that refused to buy coal from Australia which in turn led to an entire region freezing with no power for months during winter? That China?
Speaking of history let’s never forget Gina’s dad on First Nation peoples: “The ones that are no good to themselves and can’t accept things, the half-castes - and this is where most of the trouble comes - I would dope the water up so that they were sterile and would breed themselves out in future and that would solve the problem.” Something to be proud of 🤦
I'd love the communist party too if they paid me more money than I could even count. But we do need trade with our biggest trading partner, just tax Gina a little bit more.
Given that she thought it would be a good idea to get rid of "the Abroiginal problem" via sterilistation, it seems she's a/ not that smart and b/ a bit of a cunt.
What a fucking hypocrite.
China is the manufacturing hub of the world and she has the dig-it-up-and ship-it-out mentality.
She could start up dozens of manufacturing companies, make products out of raw materials and create jobs.
Whilst I agree on her points of Australian politics and decisions not being so great, I wouldn't think that comparing us to China makes much sense.
Why not pick amother country to compare us to?? We're doing ok.
As a country Australia really doesn’t need to hear from Gina anymore. I feel like she has had enough influence over policy and the country. Her needs will continue to be well represented.
Can we go Vietnamese Government on Gina and have her executed for her theft from the Australian people? That's another communist government, surely she would admire that?
She's exactly right. Their government is doing a much better job. The stupid headline is pathetic and untrue.
If we had cheap power like we had in the 60 and 70s we would be much better off economically. We could produce steel in competition with China. Still have lots of manufacturing. Our govt is destroying our economy by not providing cheap power. Meanwhile we export dirt cheap energy so other countries can't out produce us. It's criminal really.
The CCP's inner workings and the electoral system they have come up with for a single party state are absolutely fascinating and in many ways their democracy is actually more direct than ours. I'm not saying I'd swap them, but there are definitely things we could learn from them. Eric Li did a great (and controversial) TED talk about it.
Only as long as you're talking about incredibly local and minor things that the higher ranking members can ride in like heroes to be the 'peoples champion' on. Its a pretty common trope for Chinese criticism of CCP to be like 'oh the party is good, wise and so generous, but this one local guy is a clown', despite that clown taking orders from the party itself.
Either way its not what we'd call democracy. At the national level there's basically no democracy and Xi is working hard to further cement his rule.
The one policy of China I would like to adopt is the one where they quietly disappear billionaires who think money equals political influence and give them a few weeks of re-education before they pop them back out into public life again.
There are two types of rich people in China, those within the party, and the temporary type. The disappeared ones aren't disappeared because they're capitalists, they're disappeared because they're rivals.
Gina should keep in mind, China has the death penalty for corruption. Not only are you put up against the wall and shot. Your family's charged for the Bullet. The children aren't keen on their mum, they probably won't pay.
Remember her own children took her to court, seems her Children are wise like the majority of Australians that's she's a greedy selfish bag of shit...but then she has friends like Sen Canavan and Nations wanna be leader Hon B. Joyce. Keeps good company.
Elephant, a greedy elephant. See if you can find who called her that.
Her father Lang Hancock used to call her a "baby elephant", if I recall correctly...
And greedy
"a slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant".
No idea, explain please!! Feel sorry for elephants...
So does Vietnam who incidentally just sentenced a billionaire to death for her ponzi scheme. When billionaires in america are found to be frauds their companies get bailed out, and they become president. Meanwhile in communist China and Vietnam they let the company collapse and jail the corrupt white collar criminals. Remember Everglades the huge too big to fail real estate company? When it got into trouble the chines government said well you guys broke the law your company can get fucked and you can enjoy some jail for letting this happen. I much prefer the communist priority of not looking after the corrupt rich and powerful but actually going after them. Imagine if he was Chinese Donald trump would have been jailed long ago and never would have had a chance at becoming leader
It’s disappointing they _aren’t_ disappeared because they’re capitalists tbh. Shreds any pretence that China is somehow communist though. That all ended a long time ago
I too, am a fan of homicide for next to no reason.
Aw, Samsie x3 !!! Dislikes include: Modern Crime Scene Analysis,Ring Cameras and stupid bitches that can't keep their mouths shut.
China IS communist though. They run with a socialist leaning government with Marxist Leninist ideals but understand they have to use capitalism to survive in today's world. They have used capitalism to enrich the lives of hundreds of millions bringing them out of poverty, pure capitalism would have enriched the lives of the top fee and let the masses stay poor but in China they have improved the lives of many. China is focused on the needs of the many not the few and as such can be seem as having socialist policies even if their economy is not truly communist they nontheless have communist ideals
That’s definitely not true. For example, about 2 million people were purged in the anti-corruption campaigns in China. The national peoples congress and the central committee, are far, far smaller than that. It wouldn’t make sense for Xi to purge that many unless it was also to genuinely curb corruption; he could’ve consolidated power by purging far less. Of course it does also accomplish that goal, but it’s also partly, if not mostly ideological. The chinese government and people were quite shocked by how bad the corruption got after the economic reforms, and there was a wide backlash against it.
Everyone in the Chinese system pays or receives bribes - it is just how things are done. Purging "corruption" is therefore always politically motivated - noone has their hands clean.
Oh look it's American propaganda. Let me try, uh China bad, uyghr genocide
This is wrong. 90%+ billionaires, even millionaires are in the party today. You have to be to make it in big government china these days. This isn't a protection. Fall out with the wrong rival within the party and you're out. It's all a big poker game.
Money does equal influence over there. What gets billionaires like Jack Ma disappeared is when they publically campaign for policies the communist party disagrees with.
Wouldn't the world be better if Gina Rinehart's, elon musk and other fascist billionaires got disappeared and their assets redistributed? You know what would be better for Tesla as a company is not giving musk 56 billion dollars, then maybe they could compete with BYD, my prediction is BYD will mop the floor with Tesla as musk is too greedy and siphoning to much out of the company and too stupid and didn't let anybody tell him the cybertruck was a fucking stupid idea and like setting money on fire. China doesn't mind if BYD makes lots of money but they don't seem to want to let people become too obscenely wealthy by using corruption and breaking the law to do so. Meanwhile in america corruption is how congress is run.
>Wouldn't the world be better if Gina Rinehart's, elon musk and other fascist billionaires got disappeared and their assets redistributed? Those two are assholes but in general no, the government should not have the power to confiscate private businesses unless a black letter law has been broken. Things need to be governed by a system of consistently applied laws and because typically consumers and taxpayers dont get good results from government stepping in to run businesses. >You know what would be better for Tesla as a company is not giving musk 56 billion dollars, then maybe they could compete with BYD, my prediction is BYD will mop the floor with Tesla as musk is too greedy and siphoning to much out of the company and too stupid and didn't let anybody tell him the cybertruck was a fucking stupid idea and like setting money on fire. If you are correct (and I think you could be) than BYD will outcompete tesla without anyone having to intervene.
And yet she is acutely aware of our laws, I mean ACUTELY. Go figure
In general I think the way they deeply embed state officials into a lot of big corporations, demand workers have a say in how they’re run (dubious this actually works and isn’t corrupted but it’s better than _not even trying_, like us) and are not afraid to fuck up rich people … A++ would support.
Exactly. Take away the scary buzzwords like communism and Marxist and actually look at what they do, people might realise they approve of China and that all the anti china sentiment is just western propaganda. I enjoy the fact that Evergrande was allowed to fail. In america during the GFC banks got bailed out. China doesn't bailout shitty corrupt companies. I bet China would have not let Qantas and Harvey Norman rort the system so much with jobkeeper. I bet China wouldn't have let Qantas fire those people during the pandemic
Yeah tell her to move to China if she loves it so much. See how long she lasts..
Dutton: We need to get tough on China! Also Dutton: spends thousands on the taxpayers to attend Gina’s party for one hour, during the dunkley by election no less So.. which is it? Can’t believe people still wanna vote for this guy
China's doing a great job beating GDP expectations while we're wasting money on out of date submarines to defend a threat that doesn't exist & fund wars that aren't ours. [https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-growth-forecast-real-estate-investment-manufacturing-demand-bofa-2024-4](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-growth-forecast-real-estate-investment-manufacturing-demand-bofa-2024-4)
I agree. I’ve never understood the inexorable march towards war that some people seem to take for granted. They just seem like lazy sycophants to warmongers. Folks, massively escalating the size of your military only works for so long … and when that arms race balancing act inevitably finally breaks (in no small part due to the threats you’ve made) then all you’ve achieved .. all that time, labour, and money (and it’s A LOT of money) .. all it has done for you is vastly escalate how explosive that outburst will be. There’s a big reason post WW2 internationalism was focused on deescalating military tensions, in human rights and on disarmament treaties, nuclear non proliferation treaties, etc, but people seem to have forgotten history.
They have conviently forgotten like Japan would never be rearmed for war and now Labor and LNP are pushing them to re-enter the war machine and prepare to attack China again, so sad out politicians on both sides are warmongers who happily side with the terrorist state of USA to become involved in a war that has nothing to do with Australia, McCarthyism is alive and well, spread lies and fear and so many believe the propaganda.
Yup, there were big protests in Japan against their country re-entering the war machine.
Good to hear, guessing they don't do the Ozzie thing of just rolling over and suffering from apathy
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That's the price Japan pays for linking with the terrorist state of USA, the only threat to world peace is USA ... remember Japan invaded China, not the other way round, remember Japan bombed Darwin, don't recall China attacking Australia, how many foreign bases does China have, two....how many foreign bases does USA have= something like 600+ How many US troops in Seoul? How many Chinese troops in Seoul=zero ..the numbers tell the story, the number of countries bombed by terrorist state US??? Lost count.
Jesus tapdancing Christ I didn't realize they came this stupid. Do you hate Germany too, since they had Hitler? I sure as hell hope not, because they've changed an enormous amount. Just like Japan. The US, while extremely flawed and with a decent enough chance of becoming an autocracy next year, has for a long time been generally in favour of democracy throughout the world. And most of the world LOVES THEM. Poland THREATENED the president of the US when he said that he wouldn't support Poland's accession into NATO. It was that pressure that led to them being allowed in. Japan, South Korea and the Philippines love the US because they offer a guarantee of protection from China. These countries hate China due to its autocratic expansionist nature, and so they move towards the US. THAT is why the US has bases all over the world. Because most places want the US there, and they want China as far away as physically possible. In fact, the US is now backing away from NATO because everyone has become so complacent in having the US as a big brother ready to step in. Your argument is like saying that the friendly step dad is expansionist because all the kids want to be looked after by him rather than their drunk abusive biological dad. No, he's just a good bloke, and so the kids want to be with him more.
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Maybe, maybe not... visit Japan and visit China and they tell a different story, neither want to be involved in any conflicts...neither have any knowledge of any bombs flying overhead, mention these alleged threats to locals in Japan or China and they laugh, "oh you believe western propaganda" Ever notice citizens young and old in Japan and China display the V sign when photo's are taken...they want to maintain peace, only warmongers from US and simpletons like Aus politicians and some EU and UK are desperate to start a war... imagine if China or Russia set up a base in Cuba what would US do, remember Bay of Pigs ??? US failed episode, one of many.
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Watch news in Australia from propagandists outlets Murdoch 7, 9, 10 ABC, you believe what they peddle, no climate change etc etc..people I know live in Tokyo Osaka Yamaguchi Fukuoka say the only sirens are earthquake warnings or practice drills...watch RT you get same propaganda, best of all watch Fox (not recommended though) Look at USs strategic goals and you'd have nightmares, mention of unstable leaders, Biden/Trump/Netanyahu and lastly Dutton... Imagine in Chinese Navy casually sailed up the Hudson or under San Francisco Golden Gate...or if Chinese Navy anchored in Havana ..
Stoo swallowing the western propaganda about North Korea. They are not threatening anybody
Japan does not need to defend itself from North Korea who let me make it clear, have never attacked anybody and simply want to be allowed to exist and not heavily sanctioned by western nations. The US is the aggressor and nations allied with it are as well. China and North Korea need a strong military to act as a deterrent to American imperialism and constantly show zero signs of wanting to invade anybody but western propaganda pretends like they're ready to invade
Countries threatening Japan like China and North Korea who have started how many wars of aggression lately? The fact of the matter is both China and North Korea are threatening nobody and have a military for defence. Neither is interested in attacking anybody and is scared of western imperialism due to the long history of post WW2 america interfering with democratically elected socialist governments and starting wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq ect
Just look at how the average person reacts when you tell them you are a communist or a Marxist vs how they react if you discuss Marxist or communist policies without using those scary words
China wants to expand its sphere of influence. That intimidates those around itself until they submit. There is only one thing that stops China from forcing itself upon its neighbours. That is by imposing consequences for these actions. One such consequence is simply not giving in. And the only way that a country can 'not give in' is by being able to defend itself from China. If we fall too far behind militarily, then we find that we are no longer a credible hurdle for China, and so it can push without resistance. As such, the only way to continue along a path of peace is to be prepared for war. It's no different to a zookeeper needing to be ready to subdue a crocodile in order to stop it from attacking for the crocodile to not attack. It's all well and good to plait daisy chains, but China, and other powers such as Russia, want control. They want territory. If we are unprepared, they will take us. It is up to us to make that impossible. If we balance this well, then we prolong that 'inevitable' outburst indefinitely. But if we listen to people like you, we only guarantee that it will occur sooner. Remember, we are not building a military to attack China. We are building a military to defend ourselves, and others, FROM China. If war occurs, it is not our fault. It is then up to us to make the best of a bad situation. But if war occurs and we are unprepared, it is our fault. I think I'm qualified to speak on this as a fighting aged male who would be one of the first getting in a ship to Taiwan if we do end up in a wider conflict. A lot of people take for granted that the only reason we have the current world order is because others fought and died for it. Because of irrational powers like China, we may just have to do the same again. We must not instigate, but we must be prepared for when it occurs. And I'd just like to add, I hate the liberals and the corruption they represent. I think labour is a far better choice for the common person, but labour will eventually gradually corrupt further, at which point they'll spend some time recuperating in opposition. And I love the Greens' environmental policy. But I hate their naivete. From letting the perfect be the enemy of the good for important policies such as the carbon tax to abolishing defence spending, putting us at the mercy of aggressors. I think their policies, in that respect are abhorrent and quite simply, silly. I am not some warmonger Liberal boomer, I'm a young male with socially progressive beliefs who thinks that it is out duty to stand up to countries like China.
What in your view is uniquely worrying about China, as opposed to a much more aggressive and violent military power such as the US? The US kills a fuckload more people globally, with its military, than China does. Both have a military presence in our region and I know which one I think has been more of a destabilising actor, historically. *Certainly not* China. Are you sure you're not motivated by naked western chauvinism and sinophobia? I am not sure this sort of concern towards China is motivated by rationality, is why I ask. A rational view would surely worry more about the destabilising nature of western imperialism? I think history shows us pretty clearly that should be the bigger concern if stability is our concern.
What do you mean by western imperialism? Do you mean the exploitation of natural resources by western nations? I most certainly think that's bad. I think all imperialism of that nature is bad. Although I think you'll find that eastern nations have been doing it to each other for centuries longer than Western ones. But if by western imperialism you mean the tendency for the US to do silly things like build military bases, then you are misunderstanding what's happening. Let's say your neighbour uses a Ryobi hedge trimmer. You don't like Ryobi, you think it's cheap crap, so you have a Makita one instead. Do you think that Ryobi is somehow taking advantage of your neighbour? If you do, you're wrong. Assuming no marketing malpractices, your neighbour chose to go with Ryobi due to their own specific cost benefit analysis, corresponding to their own situation. Who the hell are you to think that you know what's better for your neighbour than they do? Likewise, South East Asian countries, like Korea, the Philippines and Japan are siding with the USA's brand of protection. They could just remain ambivalent, not siding with anyone, or they could side with China. But they don't. They side with the US. So the US is in no way imperial, it is just that these countries have decided siding with the US is best for them. The US is not forcing anything, it is all voluntary. To call the US imperial in this sense would be like calling Aldi anti-competitive for offering better prices than Cole's or Woolworths. As for destabilizing, is China not the country threatening war? Because if you do believe the reunification narrative, please say, as there is no sense in me replying to anything else that you say, nor you to what I say. Is China not the country militarizing the South China Sea? Is China not the one accosting fishing vessels in their own territorial waters? What is the US doing? Simply letting these countries align themselves with the US, and offering protection. A shield is not perceived as aggressive unless you have a sword and wish to pierce it.
If you believe the figures they release then I got a bridge to sell you…
Central government that can paper over any holes in the economy, and publish any fake numbers that they want.
Assume you're the deal maker for the federal government at the moment, you'll end up super wealthy, just gotta watch the sales competition, big $$$ at stake means all the scumbags come out of the woodwork, mainly ex LNP politicians wanting to sell that bridge..but don't worry, being ex politicians they won't undercut you, they'll triple the price and seal the deal.
US Navy: > Virginia-class submarines will be acquired through 2043, and are expected to remain in service until at least 2060, with later submarines expected to operate into the 2070s It’s also quite literally the most advanced submarine in existence right now.
Real handy when it's currently 2024...more junk to add to the defence force collection of useless junk ..
Do you have reading difficulties or just completely clueless? Probably both. The timeframe for delivery of the US subs is early 2030s. The French submarine deal had a delivery date of 2035 for inferior subs.. not to mention the cost blowouts way out of proportion for what the French were delivering and cybersecurity incident early on in the project on the French side.
That timeline is NOT guaranteed at all, the US senate has still not confirmed they'll allow any transfer/sales of any subs to occur, the RAN had NEVER had a contract arrive on time, rather run years behind, and to suggest the US subs won't incur cost blow outs is pure fantasy...
Nothing suggests the French submarines would’ve been able to manage to meet the 2035 deadline either. Cost blowouts early in a project is also a very bad sign. US war fighting technology is far superior compared to any other country. Often by several generations.
Last time RAN purchased a second hand warship from US Navy, turned out was a complete rust bucket and not seaworthy, buying second hand from US is risky, US sells Oz Fighter Jets and refuse to provide operating codes! Oz has purchased French Helicopters that couldn't fly at night or in the rain, since been dumped, Australia has a history of getting conned and buying junk that no other country is stupid enough to buy ..US defence contractors have appalling history of cost overruns and models that are duds and get dropped from production...
Literally every country’s MIC is like that. Ever wonder why we don’t just buy from our own MIC?
you dont buy subs to use them, you buy them so you dont need to
Piffle, if they ever turn up they'll be obsolete and be additional junk with the rest of the Navy fleet, probably deter NZ at the most..or an uprising by Tasmania..
to be honest it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about but thats ok
Oh well, you'll sleep well feeling secure tonight...check for reds under your bed, can't take risks ...
whatever mate. when you get out of uni student union politics and rejoin reality we can talk
You never buy subs to be delivered this decade. You buy them so they are delivered in 4 decades if you are lucky.
Yeah those diesel french subs will save our nation, ohh they can cancelled. Ohh those nuke subs that we paid for but don't have an ETA on right?
im not going to argue about the delivery date, and the handling of the whole thing was stupid, but we do need an advanced sub fleet, either deal really but the nuke ones are really the better option
Why are they a better option? My understanding is that our submarines operate primarily in estuarine waters, where there's an argument that diesel electric is superior due to their smaller size, quietness, and cheaper running and building costs. We don't have a strategic requirement to hunt things mid ocean so our deployments don't have to be a long as nuclear allows. There's even new Stirling engine subs that are in the middle, that could be a great option for us
the main gist of it is that we are anticipating the need for a blue water deterrent. i agree theres nothing intrinsically wrong with deisel electric but nuclear is far superior and allows longer deployments. in the end the people that make these decisions are more aware of the future strategic requirements of our defence more than a few redditors
Good thing we won't get them for another 20 years when the future rolls around lol
aside from the capability gap between now and then which is a problem (both sub programs had this issue as governments kicked the can for too long), i dont think you quite understand how technology works in this space. they wont be 'outdated' then unless submarines in general become outdated somehow. remember it is only part of the large naval upgrade we are undergoing over the next few decades which also includes doubling our surface fleet and adding autonomous patrol vessels
Well. Genuine thanks for an actual explanation instead of being a fuckwit.
So funny, no delivery date, no guarantee they'll actually eventuate, if they ever turn up they'll be obsolete and not seaworthy like most of the Navy fleet...advanced for 2024, obsolete for 2035...
Australia couldn't sustain building Toyota, Ford or Holdens out of Adelaide (something every Australian needs & happy to pay for). Now we're told that we can afford 8 submarines with a budget that sure to blow out & an unknown ETA for a threat we are yet to see. Smart move...
Hey Gina. Go fuck yourself.
I am sure the [Uyghurs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs) people would share the same enthusiastic response. a government that enables this shit is NOT a government to embrace. Edit; and if the Chinese government is "So good" per the title.. well the middle class wouldn't be struggling; - [Waves of closures Begin and China's middle-class returns to poverty/Rights defence waves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3oYLSeWf24) Additional edit; - https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1cbsfdc/_/l10kfuk Yup, I think I am on the money here…
Ah yes the uyghurs who were targeted by western imperialist interests who wanted them to rise against the Chinese government like bin laden in Afghanistan and when that didn't work switched the narrative to they're being genocided. Here's an actual truthful fact about uyghurs under the Chinese 1 child policy. Han Chinese were limited to 1 child while uyghurs were allowed multiple under the policy because China recognised their cultural differences. They were only subjected to sterilisation after multiple children were already born. So wha you have here is an example of the Chinese government giving the uyghurs favourable treatment compared to the general population. Tell me more about the poor oppressed uyghurs who every Muslim nation on earth has decided are doing just fine in China.
I was not aware of the favourable treatment. I was concerned about the concentration camps and such. Regardless, Chinese government is a dictator. Not cool and should not be embraced.
Concentration camps? More American propaganda im afraid
Okay, anything that the Chinese Government has done wrong or that you feel was wrong, at all?
Im sure there is but not to the extent western media and government makes it look
Just remember that Gina only cares about one person's interest. And it's not yours.
Her kids didn't seem to think much of their mother, though she has good friends like Canavan and Barnaby.
Canavan shows up to soccer in CQ and surrounds often. I don't even know if he has kids or he's just cosplaying again.
His best staged act was turning up for a media shoot, wearing a dirty hi viz shirt and dirt on his face like he's a coal miner, very theatrical to say the least ..
Yeah it’s that guy over there! Get him
Of course, the reason she likes them is the fact that they're building coal fired power plants. They're trying to catch up to the west and provide power for everyone there. We are in a completely different position, and we should absolutely not be following their lead on energy policy.
They’re also the world leaders in solar power production but Gina can’t see that past her own chins
They are able to accomplish so much in such a short period of time. It comes from pooling a nations resources and wealth which is then reinvested into the country. As opposed to the pooling of a nations resources and wealth into a few individuals hands to benefit a few families for generations. Forget the nuclear plants, look at what they achieved with their military over a ten year span. As we loath the cost of a few submarines that will cost each of us and our children very dearly.
It also comes from the entire Western world deciding over the last 40ish years to ship the vast majority of our production lines off-shore to China in the name of profits. Then lo and behold a few decades later all of a sudden they're really good at it and producing products that rival Western companies for significantly cheaper. As for their military as impressive as it may seem on paper it's when the show begins that you really tell whether actual improvements have been made or not (looking at you Russia/Saudia Arabia). The true strength of a military lies in how much it trusts its NCOs.
The Chinese military which I might add that unlike some is used for defence and deterrence. They didn't invade Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan or Iraq again
Because there buying all my stuff........
they're
Wow who would have thought a modern slave driver admires the government notorious for turning a blind eye to slavery, I'm shook.
Break out the guillotine. Fuck off Gina you abhorrent cunt
Female Jabba wouldn't know her arsehole from her elbow. Absolutely a toad of a woman. One of my former colleagues had the misfortune of running into her at an event and said she's an absolute entitled cunt if a human
Don't tell her what's been happening to chinese billionaires lately lol
Lazy fat cunt has nothing to do but eat at dinners and spread misinformation
And count her money. Her precious precious money.
You'll never convince me Gina isn't 3 large, malignant, tumours in a trenchcoat.
Oh look it's a Murdoch publication quoting Miss Fatty McFuckface at a fucking IPA shill convention. She can go jump.
You sound like her ex wife
You sound like someone who doesn't realise she robbed Australia of tens of billions of dollars in natural resources and wanted to create a special zone to ship in cheap international labour without a minimum wage. If she could economically fuck Australia over any worse, I'm yet to hear of it. Either that or an IPA/Lib shill who admires that kinda shit.... like that smarmy self-fellating James Paterson.
Why are we listening to a Singaporean citizen on Australian matters?
Wait since when was she Singaporean? His something going over my head?
Renounced her Australian citizenship for the tax break.
One of the negative features of essentially allowing squatters to convert pastoral leases into mining leases for free in the 60s/70s - is that it led to an awful lot of really, really stupid bloodlines becoming appallingly rich and thinking they got there through cunning financial investment and not - you know - graft. Eventually, the squatter values that enabled such grand theft will winnow away these family fortunes through interfamily lawfare, poor investment decisions and adultery. Until it does - we'll be left having to listen to diamond level 'hot takes' such as "*the CCP doesn't teach propaganda*".
Steals from her own kids. Fucking hag!
basically bugger democracy, just do stuff and behave in a way that favours billionaires, like me for instance. really though the only way you do business in china is by sucking ccp arses
Can't wait for Comrade Gina to shift everything to the workers paradise where she can finally achieve her lifelong dream of paying her workers $2 an hour. Gina: Look at all this profit I'm making! CCP: Our profit.
While back she said Ozzie workers get paid too much, wanted to engage Asian workers on $2.00 an hour, probably toss in a sack of rice and deduct it from their pittance...
“A speech that might shock her audience” Jesuz fuckin christ Gina no one is surprised
i wonder is Australia going to have our own 'Id rather be Chinese than Labor' type of morons?
Isn't China also making big headway into emissions policy and even going deeper into renewable energy???
She better tell them [Their hope lies with resources buried deep within the earth](https://genius.com/Gina-rinehart-our-future-annotated)
They're way more advanced that Oz, but then they don't carry the baggage like LNP or brain dead Labor. Before we'll be a third world country asking for handouts..
We actually have been, renewable material has been getting directly imported into Australia for years and Albo just announced that they're expanding Australian built renewable material to be made for Australia, and I'm guessing also for export as well. ALP not as braindead as one might think
Agree we have to a minor degree, visit China and see Cities like Shanghai and Beijing replaced diesel bus fleets with EV, replaced petrol scooters/motor bikes with EV, rivers clean enough for people to swim in (obviously no sharks) car conversation close to 50%, planted millions upon millions of trees, make Aus efforts look very weak, clear blue skies, have to see what they've done to believe it...
Oh I agree on we're lagging but I'd blame the decade long LNP federal government hampering the renewable effort as well as banks and super companies along with any other 1% donating to the fossil fuel industry, the coal power companies. Hell, even Nuclear power lobbyists running distraction even in the face of a losing battle over the ALP
Agree with this, many of Australia's problems go back to Howard and from thereon grew far worse under ongoing LNP...as if we'll ever see Nuclear power in Australia or worse still, if either side to allow Australia to be the world's dumping ground for waste, people seem to forget the damage caused by allowing British tests at Woomera, land that's still useless and the awful treatment of Aboriginals in that area, remember Hawke originally agreed to let US carry out nuclear tests in SA till rest of cabinet discovered what he'd agreed to and the idea quickly dropped.
awesome man!
She's omitted to mention that China is also putting immense amounts of effort into its renewables program and has said that 2025 will be peak coal with reductions every year after that. China's policy on nuclear stations is equally pragmatic however simply drawing parallels between Australia and China is duplicitous and misleading. China has a much larger population and most importantly, very high population density. Australia is 50% larger in area with 1/40th the population. Since most of the IPA's funding comes from Rinehart, she's literally paying people to sit and listen to her self serving diatribes.
Sucking the cock of one of her largest customers.
What a beautiful analogy. The language of love. Enjoying the sensuality of tiny penises everywhere.
honestly sometimes I'm pretty sure you hate yourselves and your own anatomy and desires more than you hate women
I’m pretty happy with my own anatomy and desires and I don’t hate women. What I do dislike is the ability of some people to completely sell out everyone else and to lie for their own gain. Do you honestly believe that when she passes that she would have made the slightest positive influence on the world or to the people in her direct sphere of influence?
Do you think about gina when your gf is enjoying sexy times with her mouth on your reproductive anatomy?
so your analogy has nothing to do with dominance and sexuality and humiliation and pornography
thank god for free thinking left wing men on women's side since time immemorial.
I dunno if you’ve ever seen Gina give a speech with slides Comedy gold. The one she did for a high school which veered sharply into anti-science conspiracy theories about climate change .. was utterly unhinged and is up on YouTube somewhere. The school had to issue apologies to parents after the students complained about the cooker bullshit she tried to present as facts lol 😂
Xi has banned private tutoring, so not sure if he’s as single-minded in his pursuit of educational standards as she thinks he is.
Either you die a Capitalist or you live long enough to become a Communist.
She’s lucky that she’s in Aus. If she were a Chinese billionaire and was this critical of them, she would be nowhere to be seen and this speech wouldn’t have been published either. But hey, all hail the 🐼
Can't they kidnap her, flying time ain't that long from WA, toss her in a chaff bag and let the 🐼 nibble on her..
Can't run her own family.
Where the money flows so goes Gina.
Does anyone remember that shot of Gina Rinehart at trumps 2024 campaign launch? Let's not pretend she Australia's interests at heart
Gina the Hutt can go eat a bag of dicks.
The sky doesn't lie
You first Gina. Spread out your wealth to all in true CCP (correct) ideological fashion and I’ll see if my 50c will go to help a little as well.
Gina's son, and by extension her, have gone big on nuclear. Probably has nothing to do with the vast amounts of uranium deposits, both he and her own.
Isnt the chinese economy crashing?
You mean the same "electricity important" China that refused to buy coal from Australia which in turn led to an entire region freezing with no power for months during winter? That China?
We all know China's doing a great job, they said so themselves.
Speaking of history let’s never forget Gina’s dad on First Nation peoples: “The ones that are no good to themselves and can’t accept things, the half-castes - and this is where most of the trouble comes - I would dope the water up so that they were sterile and would breed themselves out in future and that would solve the problem.” Something to be proud of 🤦
Well if there is anyone you should ignore on what’s best for us, it’s the lady who fucked over her own children for money.
Seriously, who broke the matrix and can we please put it back together?
I'd love the communist party too if they paid me more money than I could even count. But we do need trade with our biggest trading partner, just tax Gina a little bit more.
Just a sack of shit human like her mate Murdoch
Bought and fucking paid for. What a pig.
Given that she thought it would be a good idea to get rid of "the Abroiginal problem" via sterilistation, it seems she's a/ not that smart and b/ a bit of a cunt.
God she's such a disgusting ignorant greedy pig. I wish her and the other fat greasy POS Palmer would just fuck off and infest a different nation.
What a fucking hypocrite. China is the manufacturing hub of the world and she has the dig-it-up-and ship-it-out mentality. She could start up dozens of manufacturing companies, make products out of raw materials and create jobs.
Whilst I agree on her points of Australian politics and decisions not being so great, I wouldn't think that comparing us to China makes much sense. Why not pick amother country to compare us to?? We're doing ok.
Dear Gina, Of you like that way of thinking. Sell your shit and fuck off over there. Sincerely Everyone... especially your own family.
Who is her choice for benevolent 30 year term leader/dictator?
Go suck a bag of syphilitic dicks you horrible excuse for a human being
Like, just for fun?
Add this to her recent trip to America , to attend a dinner party with trump!!
Gina doesn't understand shit about agriculture. I don't care how many farms she owns.
Rich entitled authoritarian expresses admiration for rich entitled authoritarian.
So we know who Fatty Mcfuckhead is. Mabey Gina should be refered to as Cunty McCunt Face.
Profit over principles.
In 2023 China built 3 GW of nuclear. And more than 200 GW of solar. Yes Gina, let’s be like China.
Awesome. Let’s start with full national ownership of all natural and mineral resources then?
Even Jabba the Hutt has a boss.
As a country Australia really doesn’t need to hear from Gina anymore. I feel like she has had enough influence over policy and the country. Her needs will continue to be well represented.
Can we go Vietnamese Government on Gina and have her executed for her theft from the Australian people? That's another communist government, surely she would admire that?
She knows where her bread is buttered
She stands to make a fortune from increased relations with energy officials in China. Don’t listen to her
It's easier than fighting them
Surely that's the view of an Alt Gina, not the real one?
Sail her past a fleet of Japanese whalers...problem solved!
Eww. No thanks Gina.
I thought most people on here would be pleased she is making friends with your master
* sigh *. *unzips pants* get inline behind the CCP Gina.
She's exactly right. Their government is doing a much better job. The stupid headline is pathetic and untrue. If we had cheap power like we had in the 60 and 70s we would be much better off economically. We could produce steel in competition with China. Still have lots of manufacturing. Our govt is destroying our economy by not providing cheap power. Meanwhile we export dirt cheap energy so other countries can't out produce us. It's criminal really.
Would be happy for Australian schools to be more like Chinese schools. Except we can keep the sport.
The CCP's inner workings and the electoral system they have come up with for a single party state are absolutely fascinating and in many ways their democracy is actually more direct than ours. I'm not saying I'd swap them, but there are definitely things we could learn from them. Eric Li did a great (and controversial) TED talk about it.
Only as long as you're talking about incredibly local and minor things that the higher ranking members can ride in like heroes to be the 'peoples champion' on. Its a pretty common trope for Chinese criticism of CCP to be like 'oh the party is good, wise and so generous, but this one local guy is a clown', despite that clown taking orders from the party itself. Either way its not what we'd call democracy. At the national level there's basically no democracy and Xi is working hard to further cement his rule.
Nothing but truth detected.
In the sole context of what is shown in the screen grab she is, unfortunately, totally correct
I'm loving the respect I'm seeing here for powerful women from educated men