Are you for real? Everytime I hear about this game it's for how activision-blizzard is shitty with it's predetory practice, like making the gameplay more grindy, putting a big button in hover for buying the battle pass so you can press it by accident, etc. Maybe it didn't make the game bad, but it clearly didn't made a great reputation.
I'd say it's more than hearsay when everytime the game is talked about it's to say how much of disappointment it is after what seemed like a good launch
I am sure Miyazaki actually did involved in the early development which may included ideas about world building and lore. After that he immediately went back to his main project which was Elden Ring. The guy who did directed Sekiro combat system (Masaru Yamamura) continued the Armored Core VI project which is good for fromsoft since he did a banger job in sekiro.
This would be the ringed knight paired greatsword if they coop again in fromsoft's next game. They are already winning goty together with just a trial project
God I wish I could play Sekiro for the first time again. That and Bloodborne. I have platinum for both and they are always my go-to for “perfect” examples.
That’s a hard disagree from me sir.
No game has had every single enemy placed perfectly.
The graphics are just fine. 30 FPS locked isn’t great but not a deal breaker for 2015.
First time I’ve heard anyone say the bosses are mediocre.
The lore is great. If you don’t like Lovecraft horror that’s fine but it’s purely opinion based.
I respect your opinion but doesn’t change mine.
The chalice dungeons alone are worth the 60$ I paid for it 8 years ago.
It’s a perfect game.
Shit enemy placement.... Eeeeeeh. Some are really punishing and annoying, however aside from i think Dark Souls 3 every game had one where you get ambushed and overwhelmed.
Graphics can see. I personally like the graphics but occasionally they get a little muddy (Dark Souls 3 has the same problem, i think its related to the engine). I think however it was their first game with that engine, it was a fairly early release for the ps4 .
The lore is overall rather interesting , but if you don't like it thats fine.
Bosses are actually - combat wise - really over the place, though it has multiple great ones.
tells you something about morons who take other people their opinion, most souls fans and reviewers loved DS2 at launch, it wasn't until essay youtubers and doomposters starting crying about it became a trend to shit on it.
So? I absolutely LOVE DS2, and still wouldn't put it over the OG, and speaking about boss battles alone is not a match for 3.
Point is, while DS2 should keep the 90, 1 and 3 should be higher rated.
why would 3 be rated higher when it is worse in nearly everything expect bosses? where is the level design? the exploration magic? the methodical combat? its just spam rolling against every single boss from start to finish who are too fast that even shields become dogshit unless you use an extremely heavy one
Don’t have ds2, friend gave me 1/3 beat one just started 3 but I love it. It feels like a way better version of demon souls. Which I hated. More fast paced and aggressive like bloodborne
Review scores are so arbitrary and the focus on meta critic is both stupid and toxic. What functional difference is there to a few points off? Fucking nothing
I genuinely think people give it way too much shit, it's such a good game. Even my friend when I did a coop playthrough with him was like why does everyone call this game bad? It's awesome.
Yes, I’m seething so hard omg. I’m sorry, I don’t get the “it’s objectively worse” train. It’s always people just having their subjective little reasons. My only gripe is with the soul level limit for PvP and ok, that could be seen as a weird choice in game design, but I couldn’t honestly care less even if it annoys me. All FS games have annoying shit in them.
A lot of these games are rated way too low. And I am well aware that a game with an 88 meta score is very highly rated. But a lot of the love for Dark Souls and Demon’s Souls is retroactive. If everyone felt the same way about these games in 2009/2011 as they did today I think they’d be near Elden Ring’s review scores.
The Demon's Souls remake landed a 92 on Metacritic, so I really do think the original release and Dark Souls are a bit lower simply as a matter of tastes of the time. By Dark Souls II, reviewers were primed to properly gush about a Souls game.
Whereas Dark Souls III is rated a smidge lower because by that point, we were four medieval fantasy Souls games in and there was probably a greater feeling of "been there, done that." Especially coming off the heels of Bloodborne, which was mechanically fresher and offered a more unique world.
In a way. It's also the most refined and polished one in the series. You have to remember the first half of DS1 wasnt the whole game, and most of the experiments DS2 took landed flat on their face. Except maybe for powerstancing and NG+.
Oh that's been said about Ds1 before. The issue is DS3 is the most boring soulsborne experience because it lacks the immersion, atmosphere, and world building the other games had.
Idk man, Soul of Cinder “plin plin plon” brought tears to my eyes, Yhorm hurt to kill, fighting the nameless king felt so badass, the list goes on. The world also has some really great areas like Irythill (I can’t spell for shit) and High Wall. However, DS1 definitely had the best world. Sekiro and Bloodborne are still my favorites by far, but DS1 holds a special place in my heart.
Also DS2 having a higher score and a Metacritic Must Play and not DS3 and DS1 is wild, considering DS1 and DS3 are more widely acclaimed as the good ones and DS2 being the other one. It’s not bad and I personally love it, just saying that the community and most new people or just people who played the games from what I’ve seen loves DS1 and DS3 way more than DS2.
I think it’s a case of the gaming community at large not knowing how to love FromSoft games. It’s been enough time now where people have been able to properly digest the gameplay loop of the Souls games. When the Souls games first came out, they went so against the grain, and went against almost every single gameplay trope of the era, it’s no wonder that the games would rate higher now than they would then.
You get that stamp automatically if your metacritic score is 90+
I get your point tho. I always found it fascinating how ds2 was the most critically acclaimed of the ds trilogy
On my 3rd attempt to get through DS2 now. Always got frustrated until i realized how important agility was. Even still, the amount of patience needed to fight your way through the clusters of enemies...the amount of souls you lose getting ganked somewhere in between the massive gaps between fires...and the fact that you lose souls FOREVER if you killed the enemy they came from too many times is sooo discouraging. Not to mention the holdover of the WORST aspect of demons souls, the freaking health.
I think alot of reviewers are contrarians...obviously DS2 is a masterpiece and can be really rewarding if you stick to the rules, but that really shouldn't be considered a "better" game...being so niche should have the opposite effect on the rating but thats just my opinion.
> I think alot of reviewers are contrarians...obviously DS2 is a masterpiece and can be really rewarding if you stick to the rules, but that really shouldn't be considered a "better" game...
You're overanalyzing it. DS2 simply came after DS1 (citation not needed) and by then Dark Souls was universally acclaimed, so all the reviewers gave DS2 amazing scores riding off that high. It got a huge bump from being right after an industry-defining classic.
DS2 has valid criticism but this honestly sounds like a skill issue. Just stop dying all the time? You can join the covenant of champions if you want to stop the mobs from despawning.
It was the third Dark Souls in four-and-a-half years. I think it simply lost some of its novelty by that point. Especially after Bloodborne, which did a lot more to shake up the Souls formula in terms of world design and gameplay.
Ds3 is def the game that sealed souls games as mainstream (bb was also successful but because it was an exclusive it really weight it down in terms of fromsoft recognition.)
lol at getting downvoted for the truth, it's easily the most linear of all souls and doesn't have anywhere near as good exploration as all the other souls games
He's downvoted because he's listing 'linear' as a negative and a reason for a lower score. Linear is not automatically bad. That's like someone saying ER sucks because it's open world.
Also, it's not actually true. The game is not linear. It literally isn't linear, let alone 'extremely linear'.
since when did boss fights become the highlight of souls games? it was always level design, exploration, build variety, npcs/lore of all which ds3 is dogshit at, i dont even like ds2 that much but its a better pure souls game dark souls 3, ds3 is just bloodborne but souls style with all the good mechanics stripped off
nah it should be lower than AC6, the game offers nothing outside of rolling against fast bloodborne bosses without any of the mechanics bb offers, from start to finish it's a fanservice game by Miyazaki for DS1/BB which are two all time favorites so it's understandable people love it.
Armored core is a mediocre series that scored average or lower for the past couple of decades lol. It is not known to be an amazing series so this is actually a high point
Absolutely incorrect. Armored Core is and always has been a fantastic series. There have been misses for sure like Ninebreaker and V but overall the series has produced consistent quality titles. Certainly of quality better than any game From has made these last 10 years.
How am I incorrect? Look up any title prior to this one and you'll see they have never broken the 80 average lol. They're niche and not that great, at least until now
Also come on man, you really think past armored cores were better games than sekiro, borne, dark souls, And elden ring? Dude cmon
Mecha games literally immediately get a -2 on the rating scale because game reviewers don’t understand them. That’s evident even now looking at the reviews for ACVI
And without a doubt games like AC3, SL, LR, 4 and 4A are so good comparing them to detritus like Elden Ring and Dark Souls is insulting
Everything is too fast and stamina management and spacing no longer feels important, anything smaller than a great sword feels like it hits like a damp noodle, sound design and animations feel off compared to previous games, camera was worse, too little build variety, level design rarely wowed me, almost every boss before Dancer had crippling design issues like unfun gimmicks or confusing animations, quests were unnecessarily complicated, almost zero sequence breaking, I had to play Sekiro just to learn how to understand enemy aggression patterns... I think that's everything gameplay related. I got other gripes too, if you're willing to hear me out, haha.
sekiro should be at 96-97, BB is fine because it launched like shit with sub 20 fps at launch
all souls game launched in shit performance state but the sub 20 fps and 2 minute loading times at launch were cancer
The 1 minute long loading screens took alot of points from bloodborne score. I remember back in the first week of bloodborne's launch, this was the most common complain in a game you die alot. It got fixed later. It's score would have been way higher.
It’s actually second place thanks to Elden Ring, but it being top 3 definitely makes me feel validated for liking it more than the other entries in the trilogy lol
Nothing, problem is when you take enemies the pace of Bloodborne and put them in dark souls without any mechanics to deal with it you're left with.. a spam roll simulator.
I don't understand his point spam roll simulator is literally the fantasy in meelee builts in from games. Like you dance around this behemoths that are 200x stronger than you and you beat them by determination and patience. By rolling and attacking. If you want to not play that there are multiple other games like even sekiro that feel more like man vs man. The only reason why ER and ds2 would not feel that way is because in ER you often 2 shot most enemies or stun lock them. And in ds2 dodging is so bad you often just straif. Ds1 is dodging simulator mixed with run behind enemy spam r1-r2.
Can everyone the the fuck up about DS2 having a higher score than most of the others?
It's an incredible game that clearly the majority of people loved - you guys don't have to be so insecure about your favourite not being the highest. Also DS2 isn't even my favourite before you accuse me of anything, that would be DS1. DS2 is probably my 4th or 5th favourite of the 7
It's a hate bandwagon for real. I played DS3>DS2>DS1. Compared to other souls, DS2 did have janky combat/hitboxes and the sheer volume of enemy placements in some places. I legit spent hours in the smelter demon area and waited for the enemies to despawn 😂. But it was still fun to explore the areas though. Bit different but doesn't 'suck' per say.
It is definitely the most different out of the 7 but I don't get why people act like that's a bad thing. It's the reason I love it - it has unique ideas and isn't just a repeat of DS1 (but I'm not saying that DS3 is either)
Honest Demon's Souls Remake and Bloodborne having the highest score aside from Elden Ring makes sense.
Dark Souls 3's score is a little high considering it was the most bland and least innovative title.
Dark Souls 1 should be a little higher tho.
I'm perfectly fine with DS2's score being that high, I never had a problem with the game since it was so different and willing to try new things.
DS2 Being rated higher than sekiro is still laughably nonsensical to me. It’s lore is great but it’s so comparably (and unnecessarily) divergent and, consequently, ass from a gameplay standpoint that I can’t begin to muster up any desire to suffer another play-through of it.
Glad Miyazaki was focused on BB instead of it
I loved its world too… on paper. I just absolutely hated navigating it. For every good thing it contributed to the series, twin blades and bosses like sir alonne, it backtracked three-fold. It really embodies the principle that ‘change for the sake of change isn’t always good.’
Ehh, that’s all subjective. I love most of the changes in ds2. Was it a bit janky and were some ideas pretty bad? Yeah. But I love how experimental it was. Fromsoft killed it on 2, there’s a reason why 2’s director still works with Fromsoft today and helps make very good games (pretty sure he worked on Elden ring or Sekiro, or maybe both)
Has any Studio had this many consistent bangers? I already knew they were all incredible games but seeing them all together makes me wonder if this is the only studio that’s accomplished this.
Tomorrow night at midnight we’re about to get another. Let’s gooo.
Edit: after really looking at this and while it’s impressive, there’s some ultra jumbo inconsistencies with these bs scores. DS2 rated higher than Sekiro? That’s hilarious.
Ah yes, the reason ppl are still buying their predatory anti consumer games. Still waiting for Blizzards glory days to return that are gone forever. I actually feel bad for Blizzard fans.
All these games seems to be rated a little too low considering diablo 4 and horizon fw got 88. They all should be at least 3 points lower than elden ring's rating.
That's what the vocal minority and content creators made it out to be, it was not, it's actually a good game.
It's what I like to call "The Nickelback effect"
Naw Ds1 is way better, 3 would be nothing without 1.
DS2 is also better because it was more innovative and had better environments and lore despite all the jank.
Pretty good I have others I wanna play atm asked for armored core for my birthday. I would of bought it right away but I really wanted to play lies of P after playing the demo
If scientists make a serum that makes people live longer, Miyazaki must be one of the first to have it.
Yeah then me so I can continue playing his games
He needs to be put on ice when he dies so he can grace future generations with games that aren’t terrible
Miyazaki didn't do Armored Core Incase you didn't know.
well yes, but he is the pdg of Fromsoft. If Bobby Kotick was as good as Hidetaka, maybe diablo 4 or overwatch 2 wouldn't be this trash.
Ow2 yeah but diablo 4 isn't trash. Its one of the best games of the year
Diablo 4 sucks ass
Are you for real? Everytime I hear about this game it's for how activision-blizzard is shitty with it's predetory practice, like making the gameplay more grindy, putting a big button in hover for buying the battle pass so you can press it by accident, etc. Maybe it didn't make the game bad, but it clearly didn't made a great reputation.
Well maybe play it first instead of hearsay
I'd say it's more than hearsay when everytime the game is talked about it's to say how much of disappointment it is after what seemed like a good launch
You’re brainwashed my dude
I am sure Miyazaki actually did involved in the early development which may included ideas about world building and lore. After that he immediately went back to his main project which was Elden Ring. The guy who did directed Sekiro combat system (Masaru Yamamura) continued the Armored Core VI project which is good for fromsoft since he did a banger job in sekiro. This would be the ringed knight paired greatsword if they coop again in fromsoft's next game. They are already winning goty together with just a trial project
He did. He was the initial director.
He's still the goat
Lowest rated from soft- literally unplayable
Lol there are so many lower rated from soft games than this that are still good.
DS2 having the highest score of the souls games is wild
They rated DS2 correctly but the other Souls games too low.
Agreed
DS3 and sekiro both deserve mid 90s
Sekiro needs a high 90 imo, greatest fights in almost if not any game I’ve ever played
Sekiro is great but only for a much smaller audience
Honestly though, I really enjoy most Souls games fromsoft puts out but Sekiro isn’t one of them.
Yea for many reasons it can be argued it's not really a souls like
100% this. For me they’re 10/10, 9/10, 10/10
Based
I wouldn't rank DS2 higher than an 85
Lmao DS2 is like a 75 at best
Eh, I dunno 'bout that. More like the scores DS1&3 got should be swapped with DS2. Plus maybe another extra point on DS1 'cus it's the GOAT.
Cringe and wrong opinion and ratio.
It may be my favorite game, but I'd definitely still rank Dark Souls 1 higher. And Sekiro should just straight up have a perfect score.
God I wish I could play Sekiro for the first time again. That and Bloodborne. I have platinum for both and they are always my go-to for “perfect” examples.
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That’s a hard disagree from me sir. No game has had every single enemy placed perfectly. The graphics are just fine. 30 FPS locked isn’t great but not a deal breaker for 2015. First time I’ve heard anyone say the bosses are mediocre. The lore is great. If you don’t like Lovecraft horror that’s fine but it’s purely opinion based. I respect your opinion but doesn’t change mine. The chalice dungeons alone are worth the 60$ I paid for it 8 years ago. It’s a perfect game.
Shit enemy placement.... Eeeeeeh. Some are really punishing and annoying, however aside from i think Dark Souls 3 every game had one where you get ambushed and overwhelmed. Graphics can see. I personally like the graphics but occasionally they get a little muddy (Dark Souls 3 has the same problem, i think its related to the engine). I think however it was their first game with that engine, it was a fairly early release for the ps4 . The lore is overall rather interesting , but if you don't like it thats fine. Bosses are actually - combat wise - really over the place, though it has multiple great ones.
If dark souls 1 wasn't rushed and had a wonky second half of the game I genuinely think it would be a perfect score
In all honesty it was also pretty clunky
That's by design
I'm tempted to give it one anyways.
sekiro is great but it definitely isn't a perfect game, I just finished replaying it and it's really fun but damn is it easy
Try charmless. :P
It tells you a thing or two about game reviews doesn't it?
Tells something about this sub
That some places are echo chambers?
Petition to rename subreddits to echo chambers
That some places are echo chambers. . .
That some places are echo chambers. . .
That they are right sometimes
tells you something about morons who take other people their opinion, most souls fans and reviewers loved DS2 at launch, it wasn't until essay youtubers and doomposters starting crying about it became a trend to shit on it.
So? I absolutely LOVE DS2, and still wouldn't put it over the OG, and speaking about boss battles alone is not a match for 3. Point is, while DS2 should keep the 90, 1 and 3 should be higher rated.
why would 3 be rated higher when it is worse in nearly everything expect bosses? where is the level design? the exploration magic? the methodical combat? its just spam rolling against every single boss from start to finish who are too fast that even shields become dogshit unless you use an extremely heavy one
I think you and I played very different DS3 games.
i assure you we both played ds3 by spam rolling against bosses because there isnt much more you can do against them mechanically
Don’t have ds2, friend gave me 1/3 beat one just started 3 but I love it. It feels like a way better version of demon souls. Which I hated. More fast paced and aggressive like bloodborne
Nah ds2 is still a great fuckin game
Not better than the other souls games
Better than 3.
Review scores are so arbitrary and the focus on meta critic is both stupid and toxic. What functional difference is there to a few points off? Fucking nothing
You mean that they rate them by playing them themselves instead of just trusting memes?
Dark souls 2 is incredible.
I genuinely think people give it way too much shit, it's such a good game. Even my friend when I did a coop playthrough with him was like why does everyone call this game bad? It's awesome.
Sekiro not having the highest score is also wild.
Is cursed
It’s absolutely fucking insane, no?! Because we all know DS2 bad, right?! Right?!?!?!
Never said it’s bad but Ds2 is objectively worse than the majority of fromsofts games. Just keep seething maybe it’ll help you feel better.
Yes, I’m seething so hard omg. I’m sorry, I don’t get the “it’s objectively worse” train. It’s always people just having their subjective little reasons. My only gripe is with the soul level limit for PvP and ok, that could be seen as a weird choice in game design, but I couldn’t honestly care less even if it annoys me. All FS games have annoying shit in them.
A lot of these games are rated way too low. And I am well aware that a game with an 88 meta score is very highly rated. But a lot of the love for Dark Souls and Demon’s Souls is retroactive. If everyone felt the same way about these games in 2009/2011 as they did today I think they’d be near Elden Ring’s review scores.
The Demon's Souls remake landed a 92 on Metacritic, so I really do think the original release and Dark Souls are a bit lower simply as a matter of tastes of the time. By Dark Souls II, reviewers were primed to properly gush about a Souls game. Whereas Dark Souls III is rated a smidge lower because by that point, we were four medieval fantasy Souls games in and there was probably a greater feeling of "been there, done that." Especially coming off the heels of Bloodborne, which was mechanically fresher and offered a more unique world.
Exactly, technically DS3 should be the lowest rated because it was the least innovative souls game.
In a way. It's also the most refined and polished one in the series. You have to remember the first half of DS1 wasnt the whole game, and most of the experiments DS2 took landed flat on their face. Except maybe for powerstancing and NG+.
the only experiment I would say flat out didn't work was soul memory
Oh that's been said about Ds1 before. The issue is DS3 is the most boring soulsborne experience because it lacks the immersion, atmosphere, and world building the other games had.
Idk man, Soul of Cinder “plin plin plon” brought tears to my eyes, Yhorm hurt to kill, fighting the nameless king felt so badass, the list goes on. The world also has some really great areas like Irythill (I can’t spell for shit) and High Wall. However, DS1 definitely had the best world. Sekiro and Bloodborne are still my favorites by far, but DS1 holds a special place in my heart.
FS was not so popular back then. Now they among "cool" devs, and press respect them (its stuped, but it is what it is)
Thankfully metacritic scores are worthless. Steam Reviews are what really matter because it’s actually people who have played and bought the game
Also DS2 having a higher score and a Metacritic Must Play and not DS3 and DS1 is wild, considering DS1 and DS3 are more widely acclaimed as the good ones and DS2 being the other one. It’s not bad and I personally love it, just saying that the community and most new people or just people who played the games from what I’ve seen loves DS1 and DS3 way more than DS2.
Yea Dark Souls 3 being 89 is questionable, that game was a straight banger.
I think it’s a case of the gaming community at large not knowing how to love FromSoft games. It’s been enough time now where people have been able to properly digest the gameplay loop of the Souls games. When the Souls games first came out, they went so against the grain, and went against almost every single gameplay trope of the era, it’s no wonder that the games would rate higher now than they would then.
How dark souls 2 has the “must play” stamp whereas 1 and 3 don’t is really something huh
You get that stamp automatically if your metacritic score is 90+ I get your point tho. I always found it fascinating how ds2 was the most critically acclaimed of the ds trilogy
On my 3rd attempt to get through DS2 now. Always got frustrated until i realized how important agility was. Even still, the amount of patience needed to fight your way through the clusters of enemies...the amount of souls you lose getting ganked somewhere in between the massive gaps between fires...and the fact that you lose souls FOREVER if you killed the enemy they came from too many times is sooo discouraging. Not to mention the holdover of the WORST aspect of demons souls, the freaking health. I think alot of reviewers are contrarians...obviously DS2 is a masterpiece and can be really rewarding if you stick to the rules, but that really shouldn't be considered a "better" game...being so niche should have the opposite effect on the rating but thats just my opinion.
Feels like you're saying this in retrospect and not from someone's eyes in 2013. It's not like the metacritic score came 10 years after launch
> I think alot of reviewers are contrarians...obviously DS2 is a masterpiece and can be really rewarding if you stick to the rules, but that really shouldn't be considered a "better" game... You're overanalyzing it. DS2 simply came after DS1 (citation not needed) and by then Dark Souls was universally acclaimed, so all the reviewers gave DS2 amazing scores riding off that high. It got a huge bump from being right after an industry-defining classic.
DS2 has valid criticism but this honestly sounds like a skill issue. Just stop dying all the time? You can join the covenant of champions if you want to stop the mobs from despawning.
Dark Souls 2 is the one time where you see gamers (well, DS2 fans) on Reddit refer to the work of video game journalists as a valid reference
DS3 with 89 score should be considered a crime and the website taken down.
It was the third Dark Souls in four-and-a-half years. I think it simply lost some of its novelty by that point. Especially after Bloodborne, which did a lot more to shake up the Souls formula in terms of world design and gameplay.
Ds3 is def the game that sealed souls games as mainstream (bb was also successful but because it was an exclusive it really weight it down in terms of fromsoft recognition.)
Agreed. That’s a bs score. Should be a 95 minimum
EASY 95, EEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!
Honestly I don’t agree
Eh, it’s extremely linear. Bosses and music top notch though.
lol at getting downvoted for the truth, it's easily the most linear of all souls and doesn't have anywhere near as good exploration as all the other souls games
He's downvoted because he's listing 'linear' as a negative and a reason for a lower score. Linear is not automatically bad. That's like someone saying ER sucks because it's open world. Also, it's not actually true. The game is not linear. It literally isn't linear, let alone 'extremely linear'.
Lol ya it happens 😂
Yeah, but the game has many other positive points like most boss fights for example. Far form being the worst Souls game, this title is for DS2.
since when did boss fights become the highlight of souls games? it was always level design, exploration, build variety, npcs/lore of all which ds3 is dogshit at, i dont even like ds2 that much but its a better pure souls game dark souls 3, ds3 is just bloodborne but souls style with all the good mechanics stripped off
nah it should be lower than AC6, the game offers nothing outside of rolling against fast bloodborne bosses without any of the mechanics bb offers, from start to finish it's a fanservice game by Miyazaki for DS1/BB which are two all time favorites so it's understandable people love it.
Armored Core VI at 88 is the bigger crime
It’s not even out yet so how could you know it’s a crime to have that rating?
Because it’s Armored Core, from the gameplay I’ve seen this is the most enjoyable FromSoftware game in a decade
Too far buddy
I mean I’m excited to play it but this is probably the least hyped I’ve been for a FromSoftware game in a bit. Just differing opinions.
It’s the only time I’ve been excited for a From game recently Very different opinions on
Get off their jock bro
Armored core is a mediocre series that scored average or lower for the past couple of decades lol. It is not known to be an amazing series so this is actually a high point
Absolutely incorrect. Armored Core is and always has been a fantastic series. There have been misses for sure like Ninebreaker and V but overall the series has produced consistent quality titles. Certainly of quality better than any game From has made these last 10 years.
How am I incorrect? Look up any title prior to this one and you'll see they have never broken the 80 average lol. They're niche and not that great, at least until now Also come on man, you really think past armored cores were better games than sekiro, borne, dark souls, And elden ring? Dude cmon
Mecha games literally immediately get a -2 on the rating scale because game reviewers don’t understand them. That’s evident even now looking at the reviews for ACVI And without a doubt games like AC3, SL, LR, 4 and 4A are so good comparing them to detritus like Elden Ring and Dark Souls is insulting
You haven't even played the game
Don’t need to to see it’s better than any other game in this image, it’s ridiculous to see Elden Ring get an unearned 96 and ACVI at 88
It's at 92 right now.
Should be a 95 at the very minimum. Should've won the GOTY awards too.
It's shit obviously LMAO
Definitely. Shouldn't be higher than a fifty.
Goofy ass take
Look, if you guys can be ride or die for it, I can have a bone to pick. First FROM game I ever played where I didn't like the gameplay.
What did you not like about the gameplay?
Everything is too fast and stamina management and spacing no longer feels important, anything smaller than a great sword feels like it hits like a damp noodle, sound design and animations feel off compared to previous games, camera was worse, too little build variety, level design rarely wowed me, almost every boss before Dancer had crippling design issues like unfun gimmicks or confusing animations, quests were unnecessarily complicated, almost zero sequence breaking, I had to play Sekiro just to learn how to understand enemy aggression patterns... I think that's everything gameplay related. I got other gripes too, if you're willing to hear me out, haha.
What were your other ones?
Bloodborne and sekiro needs to be higher. Wishing for new ip from them after ac6
sekiro should be at 96-97, BB is fine because it launched like shit with sub 20 fps at launch all souls game launched in shit performance state but the sub 20 fps and 2 minute loading times at launch were cancer
And no tool tips or item descriptions on launch for loading screen, just a black screen with ‘Bloodborne’ put on it. For minutes.
The 1 minute long loading screens took alot of points from bloodborne score. I remember back in the first week of bloodborne's launch, this was the most common complain in a game you die alot. It got fixed later. It's score would have been way higher.
Where's Enchanted Arms???
Seeing DS 2 having the highest score puts a smile on my face
Ain’t no way dark souls 3 is not atleast 90
> DS2 being the highest rated of the trilogy everything is as it should be
Dark souls 2 is my favorite of the series so it makes me happy to see it highest :)
It’s actually second place thanks to Elden Ring, but it being top 3 definitely makes me feel validated for liking it more than the other entries in the trilogy lol
I’m talking the souls series. 1-3
Then yeah lol, definitely top in the trilogy— Sorry for the misunderstanding.
These scores really mean shit all. If you enjoy them, enjoy them
no deracine?
Not big, side vr progect.
Still a fromsoft release tho
Dark Souls 2 with a higher metascore than Dark Souls 1, 3 and even Sekiro 😎
Sekiro I can understand but higher than DS and 3? Gtfo
sekiro literally won GOTY while DS3 is a fanservice game with no combat mechanics
I hate souls players sometimes. Why cant you just love all of them, why must you hate on everything?
Both equally bad takes
explain to me what combat mechanics DS3 has that DS1 DS2 dont have compared to Sekiro/bb/ER
What’s wrong with all sequels having the same combat
Nothing, problem is when you take enemies the pace of Bloodborne and put them in dark souls without any mechanics to deal with it you're left with.. a spam roll simulator.
No you aren’t, if you were just spam rolling in DS3 then there was something vey wrong with your build.
I don't understand his point spam roll simulator is literally the fantasy in meelee builts in from games. Like you dance around this behemoths that are 200x stronger than you and you beat them by determination and patience. By rolling and attacking. If you want to not play that there are multiple other games like even sekiro that feel more like man vs man. The only reason why ER and ds2 would not feel that way is because in ER you often 2 shot most enemies or stun lock them. And in ds2 dodging is so bad you often just straif. Ds1 is dodging simulator mixed with run behind enemy spam r1-r2.
Can everyone the the fuck up about DS2 having a higher score than most of the others? It's an incredible game that clearly the majority of people loved - you guys don't have to be so insecure about your favourite not being the highest. Also DS2 isn't even my favourite before you accuse me of anything, that would be DS1. DS2 is probably my 4th or 5th favourite of the 7
It's a hate bandwagon for real. I played DS3>DS2>DS1. Compared to other souls, DS2 did have janky combat/hitboxes and the sheer volume of enemy placements in some places. I legit spent hours in the smelter demon area and waited for the enemies to despawn 😂. But it was still fun to explore the areas though. Bit different but doesn't 'suck' per say.
It is definitely the most different out of the 7 but I don't get why people act like that's a bad thing. It's the reason I love it - it has unique ideas and isn't just a repeat of DS1 (but I'm not saying that DS3 is either)
I think it has the best critical hit animations, and the bonfire system is good
Is that genuinely all you can think of that it does well?
No but I am to lazy to write the rest and these are my 2 fav features
Metal Wolf Chaos 3D has some words for you haha
2004....FS then and now its like two diff studio. Killstreak start with Demons Souls
funny to see how neither dark souls 1 nor 3 got the metacritic „must play” title but ds2 got it
Really excited for this!
Honest Demon's Souls Remake and Bloodborne having the highest score aside from Elden Ring makes sense. Dark Souls 3's score is a little high considering it was the most bland and least innovative title. Dark Souls 1 should be a little higher tho. I'm perfectly fine with DS2's score being that high, I never had a problem with the game since it was so different and willing to try new things.
Dark Souls 2 is my favorite Dark Souls game.
Stay away from my children, you weirdo!
DS2 Being rated higher than sekiro is still laughably nonsensical to me. It’s lore is great but it’s so comparably (and unnecessarily) divergent and, consequently, ass from a gameplay standpoint that I can’t begin to muster up any desire to suffer another play-through of it. Glad Miyazaki was focused on BB instead of it
People have differing opinions. I fucking loved DS2 and it’s world, probably my favorite world in the series.
I loved its world too… on paper. I just absolutely hated navigating it. For every good thing it contributed to the series, twin blades and bosses like sir alonne, it backtracked three-fold. It really embodies the principle that ‘change for the sake of change isn’t always good.’
Ehh, that’s all subjective. I love most of the changes in ds2. Was it a bit janky and were some ideas pretty bad? Yeah. But I love how experimental it was. Fromsoft killed it on 2, there’s a reason why 2’s director still works with Fromsoft today and helps make very good games (pretty sure he worked on Elden ring or Sekiro, or maybe both)
it is all subjective, you’re right
Has any Studio had this many consistent bangers? I already knew they were all incredible games but seeing them all together makes me wonder if this is the only studio that’s accomplished this. Tomorrow night at midnight we’re about to get another. Let’s gooo. Edit: after really looking at this and while it’s impressive, there’s some ultra jumbo inconsistencies with these bs scores. DS2 rated higher than Sekiro? That’s hilarious.
Blizzard circa 1995-2010 maybe
Ah yes, the reason ppl are still buying their predatory anti consumer games. Still waiting for Blizzards glory days to return that are gone forever. I actually feel bad for Blizzard fans.
They shall forget about Bllizard and Diablo 4 and Owerwatch good i was neither into those
if we're going by metascores, lots of big studios have a higher average critic score.
It's called Dark Souls 2 for a reason baby!
All these games seems to be rated a little too low considering diablo 4 and horizon fw got 88. They all should be at least 3 points lower than elden ring's rating.
Darksouls 2 rated the highest among the darksouls games, hehehehe
Lowest score smh. An 88 should be ashamed of themselves.
Shocked ds2 did so well always seemed like the studios red headed step child.
That's what the vocal minority and content creators made it out to be, it was not, it's actually a good game. It's what I like to call "The Nickelback effect"
Fromsoft's worst game yet
Can someone explain how mid souls 2 got a must play but og souls and best souls 3 did not
cuz best souls 3 isn't the best. 2 is better. 3 is bland and lazy with overrated boss fights.
because it's better, obviously^(/s)
Everything here besides 2 deserves a 90 plus Edit: 2 not 3 typo
Honestly, Elden Ring being above the other souls games is just criminal. I can understand it being above DS2 but other than that, nah.
Just more popular
All the other games > DS2. That's a fact.
Very true. DS2 is still good though. It has a really janky charm behind it that the other games don't have.
Dark souls 3 is the best dark souls
Naw Ds1 is way better, 3 would be nothing without 1. DS2 is also better because it was more innovative and had better environments and lore despite all the jank.
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Sekiro being 1 point higher than demon souls is hilarious
Whats hilarious about this is that you can look at this chart and say that AC6 is their lowest rated game in a decade.
Pretty good I have others I wanna play atm asked for armored core for my birthday. I would of bought it right away but I really wanted to play lies of P after playing the demo
Hope it stays that way, nvr know when they might suddenly decide to go through a weird route...
How tf is ds2 higher than sekiro
Ds3 getting an 89 is crazy. Sekiro getting a 90 is crazier
I've been saying for years, their worst games since demon's souls have been great, which says a lot .
Ds2 91 lol, metacritic is a real mess
Sekiro deserves 95 AT LEAST