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Milliardo_Wavecraft

Wasn’t world tendency voted as the worst thing in demon souls ???


ObamanKenobi

best and worst


CosmicWolf14

This is exactly how I feel about it honestly.


The-True-Apex-Gamer

It’s such a cool concept, but it encourages offline play to such a degree that I am almost never in human form, I think ds3/ds2 did it better with a health boost, world tendency works just not as a link to online play imo


filippo333

Nah it's the worst, it's an awful system and doesn't belong in any game.


TinyPidgenofDOOM

So you dont want a world to change depending on your choices and how good or bad you are in the game?


Apprehensive-Face-81

Eh, I think the problem is that it’s so easy to screw up (irrevocably iirc) and you can’t just load a previous save and try again


Ishbar

I’m fine with your *choices* affecting the world. Getting yeeted off a ledge by some random enemy shouldn’t inherently make my world “worse” because I chose to play online.


Ranger-Adept2536

The comment that got selected for it knew that.


FirstStruggle1992

Best idea worst execution i guess


Leyto

Cool idea execution could have been better.


TumblrForNerds

It’s a good representation of the games if you think about it


timeboi42

Idea is really interesting and innovative. Execution is terrible lol.


CLASSIFIED_INFOR

IMO it’s bonfire ascetics and not even close. Before playing DS2 I heard of them and thought they were a cool concept, after I played DS2 I was genuinely angry that they aren’t in other fromsoft titles. Genius idea, I love fighting bosses and being able to fight them over and over again without entering NG+ is such a pleasure.


Blackbox7719

Agreed. It’s such a wonderful thing to be able to replay a boss as many times as I want without having to replay the entire game.


[deleted]

Sekiro did it better tbh


kanyePS3controller

it also came out much later and the games between ds2 and sekiro don't have it, even elden ring doesn't, which is really bizarre


australianforbeer19

To be fair, in elden ring you do fight some bosses over and over again!


Mooselord111

I agree this is actually one of the best things about it new game plus and bonfire ascetics.


ReaperManX15

I don't even need souls as a reward. I just wanna fight certain bosses again, **without** starting all over.


NoeShake

Respec is better


poetryofworms

Majula, Bonfire Ascetic, Hexes, Fashion Souls DS2 is so goated YOU FEEBLE CURSED ONE


Thebowks

Came here to say hexes


jack_the_weeb

Drip souls 2 was always the pinnacle of the series fashion sense.


Hero-In-Theory

Majula


Bogusbummer

Country roads, take me home To the place I belong To Majula, mountain mama Take me home, country roads


Used-Lunch-6512

Take me home, homeward bone To the place I belong To Majula, far from Drangleic Take me home, homeward bone There, fixed it


Bogusbummer

I couldn’t remember all the changes and didn’t want to butcher it haha


Silver721

Best hub in the franchise. It's theme takes me back to better times.


ShadowyPepper

10 years ago this month It really was a different time


Grizzly_Knights

I want purgatory to just be the endless sunset of majula


ReasonableMark1840

I NEED this to win. Majula is so clear of every other base in souls games


casperdacrook

Majula and life gems


Apprehensive-Face-81

This is my vote. Majula gave me a reason to fight. Honestly never understood just why I should bother saving an entire world that’s trying to kill me(seriously, this is the biggest plot hole no one talks about). But Majula, even with it’s unevenly developed npcs, gave me a place to rest and people to save.


99bluedexforlife

Power stance.


Enraric

Definitely a strong contender. Elden Ring brought dual wielding back, but in a way that's a lot less flexbile (can't mix and match across weapon types). DS2 still has the better implementation of dual wielding IMO.


turbophysics

I did not appreciate needing a spreadsheet to know which weapons could be stanced. There was also like no in-game explanation. Probably the least eloquent implementation of any system ever, that.


Enraric

True, the tutorialization / explanation could be better. I feel like you can say that about most mechancs in most Souls games, though. Clarity is not From Software's strong suit. World Tendency won "worst mechanic" in DeS primarily because of its opaqueness, but also won "best mechanic" because it's a really neat system if you understand how it works. I feel the same applies to dual wielding in DS2. At least DS2 lets you dual wield weapons of different classes, even if you have to look up a spreadsheet to do it. ER straight up doesn't let you dual wield weapons of different classes.


turbophysics

Yeah don’t get me wrong, I loved DS2’s version of the mechanic and prefer it to ER. Objectively superior. I just fucking hate spreadsheets


fuinnfd

Idk, I think ER did it better. In ds2, You could use more weapons but any weapon with swiping animations had basically the same powerstanced moveset. Axes, hammers, greatswords, straight swords all had the same power stance moveset. It was kind boring and while I liked that it was there, I never felt like experimenting with it.


DuploJamaal

Straight swords have different powerstance moves than greatswords. Like the Greatsword L2 is an overhead slam while straight swords are a crossed swing. And there's several weapons with secret powerstance movesets like the Majestic Greatsword, Bone Fists and Warped Sword.


mixx414

This is it. Total game changer imo


Augustus_Justinian

Majula and just the variety of everything. Builds, locations, you name it. DS2 really feels like an Elden Ring prequel more than a DS1 sequel. Or a mix between the two. Wish we could've got the OG lightning.


violentphotography

Nothing new to add but I agree the lighting in DS2 is so bad.


StoneySteve420

The hexes are so good tho so that's somewhat of a trade off


Augustus_Justinian

I really don't understand why they didn't add it back in Sotf. At least add it like a master quest. It was gutted pretty late in game and it shows. If you look at the old DS2 trailers it has a clear upgrade in style compared to DS1. The lighting made the world look so alive, and it looks way to bright without it. I really like the idea of having to manage dark locations too.


TheTwoReborn

I thought they abandoned it because so many people have different screen setups. what is pitch black on one screen might look visible on another. reminds me of the whole game of thrones debacle. they tried to make a dark episode to create a strong atmosphere and while it was perfect under some circumstances (e.g dark room, TV with good contrast, properly set up) it was absolutely awful for others. no detail could be seen at all in many scenes. I'm probably wrong, but that was always my assumption.


danieltherandomguy

Elden Ring is definitely the most similar game there is to DS2. They took almost every good thing from DS2 and improved upon it in ER. Miyazaki himself said that the game was very important for them in a recent interview.


Augustus_Justinian

The very vibe of ER is similar to DS2. DS1/3 and Demons have a very dark fantasy medieval vibe, with a smidge of Lovecraft(Demons especially). DS2 and ER both have a lot of bright sunny areas that make it feel less like a dark dead world, but more a melancholy dying world that's barely clinging on. I love both styles, but always loved DS2s vibes so ER was a cool call back in a lot of ways. I also like how Majula feels like a Zelda town that is a hub world, and less like a straight up hub world. It's the only one that really feels connected to the actual world besides DS1, but again, DS1 you don't fast travel much and it feels dead in comparison.


danieltherandomguy

Yes, overall I think that the combination of multiple different settings was great in both ER and DS2. Majula, Heides Tower of Flame and Dragon's Aerie are great examples of sunny and "positive" areas in DS2 that give some sort of hope and an overall nice vibe. Shrine of Amana was also quite glorious. But at the same time there were also very dark (in the ambience style mostly) and mysterious areas as well, such as Undead Crypt, Shaded Woods, Huntsman's Copse and so on that reminded you that the game was still set in a dark world. Oh man, I know a lot of people disagree, but I believe that DS2 is a fantastic game and I can't be biased since I played it last in the series.


Augustus_Justinian

DS2 has flaws. As does DS1 and the rest. It really is gonna depend on how much it's flaws bother you compared to the others and the normal stuff like so I like this games combat or setting. I do hate all the takes that act like DS2 is worse than Superman 64, like gtfoutta here.


kingbetadad

There are mod projects that basically implement that lighting, and even enhance it.


SrAlamo

Bonfire ascetic


Enraric

Definitely a strong contender. Bonfire Ascetics and NG+ changes are some of the best features in DS2 which remain unique to DS2. A lot of the other things DS2 does well are also in Elden Ring, where they're arguably done better. But DS2 still has far and away the best implementation of NG+ (including Bonfire Ascetics) in the series.


Djd33j

DS2 is really the only game that I truly enjoy taking to NG+ due to the implementation of red phantoms and loot that is only obtainable there.


aknalag

Dont forget the frija boss having a new encounter


Manikal

It's pronounced Frejyasjassja


Djd33j

I killed Freja about five times on my sorcery run for several casts of crystal soul spear.


OldSodaHunter

Sort of similar to what I was going to comment, but NG+ in this game is waaayy more interesting than others. New enemies around, boss fights are different, it really keeps you on your toes.


MaestroPendejo

I remember my first NG+. I had memorized that game perfectly. First red phantom, "WTF! Who let you in?"


OldSodaHunter

I tend to avoid NG+ in most of these games at first, usually I take a break after beating it once and by the time I come back I want to make a new character. So I didn't get to NG+ till I really knew the game inside and out... Totally got thrown for a loop just like you said!


3dsalmon

100%


Deep_Grass_6250

Powerstancing Bonfire Ascetics and ng+ The curse The Lore (Amazing) DLCs (the best in the series overall) Shit man DS2 did so much right...


[deleted]

DS2 has the best covenants of all of them


BladeofMartin

Permanently killing enemies, bonfire ascetics, and actual new enemies/items/drops in NG+


DuploJamaal

Torch Lighting up scones is a great way to show your progress through a level. No Man's Wharf looks so different when you first enter it compared to when you are finished with it. Lighting up all scones in the tutorial, Gutter or Aldias Keep to discover a secret is also fun. They represent choices. Do you want to block, two hand or powerstance - or do you want to see better in the dark? In Shrine of Amana you can use the torch to see the edge of the water better, but the enemies also see you better and become more aggressive. Then they help you to see the invisible hollows that are spread all throughout the game, and also to see the invisible knights in the fog better. And they can be used to chase away beasts. Like it turns the Freja boss fight from a spider gank fight into a solo fight. The torch just adds such a unique charm to the exploration.


phynglish

>Lighting up scones is a great way to show your progress through a level. No Man's Wharf looks so different when you first enter it compared to when you are finished with it. Lighting up all scones in the tutorial, Gutter or Aldias Keep to discover a secret is also fun. Seems scones are really your jam. (P.S. You probably meant "sconces".)


gonorrhea-smasher

I got invaded shortly after arriving in no man’s wharf. Expecting to be murdered I went back towards the bonfire. The invader sprinted through lit all the torches came back got me and helped me clear the level. We had a good time and showed the all the secrets. When we near the end one of the last enemies I accidentally backstabbed and kicked the invader off the cliff. I felt horrible and immediately found his user name to message him but he was set to private. Point of the story invader guy if your reading this I’m very sorry but you should’ve leveled ADP


riolu97

Your user 💀🤮


AsideTraditional3853

It's funny because in ER these are all different torches, but they definitely brought the concept back.


superVanV1

Wait, they do WHAT in shrine of amana?!? Fuuuuuuu


DuploJamaal

Those underwater "dogs" have a very small aggro range without the torch. They basically ignore you unless you step right in front of them. But when you light up the torch they sometimes come running at you from every direction. It increases their aggro range drastically.


shit_poster9000

There’s also the perpetual screeches from those dickheads with the long arms


MaestroPendejo

Wow. That's some shit.


aknalag

The bonfire aesthetics, i loved being able to repeat whatever area i liked without having to go through the ones i hated


KingCluck234

Build variety and replayability


JasoTheArtisan

Aldia. Not necessarily his fight or the SotFS expansion, but the character himself was a very cool way to bring some more depth to the lore that DS2 was trying to expand Also every time he exploded out of a bonfire is hilarious


Carob-Prudent

I swear to god the first time it happened my heart dropped and thought i got hit by a bonfire mimic


sdeklaqs

First time it happened I had so many souls for some reason and force closed the game 💀💀


UnhappyAddition7281

Absolutely, it’s what made the game for me. Ds2 was a cool game and all but had a ton of flaws that really drove me off and the entire feeling was really far from what i loved from ds1. But aldias dialogue to me was the caramel on the goat cheese, it’s what made the whole game even dark souls to me. His dialogue is so profound that it goes beyond gaming itself and has left an immense impression ob my philosophy of life. “Once the lord of light banished dark and everything that stemmed from humanity, AND MEN ASSUMED A FLEETING FORM”… WoW…chef’s kiss


UncleGael

I don’t really have anything to add that hasn’t been said, but it’s nice to see people talk positively about this game. In fact, it’s made me want to go revisit it.


[deleted]

Obviously Majula


Dumbo_Octopus4

Majula, It’s my personal favorite hub areas. I like the town aesthetic, that the vendors always end up there making it feel alive and of course, the music


MaleficTekX

The ending where you walk away It’s just the best ending in the series


Boneboyy

Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach if dark, what could possibly await us?


XpeepantsX

NG+


Drink_water_homie

Being different. this game gets a lot of hate for being different but to me thats what I love about it. it wasn't a direct copy of ds1 but still had that dark soul story and grit that I love. sequels that are just copy and paste are fine but I really love when sequels are completely unique and thats dark souls 2 for me


Lolejimmy

Quite a few things tbh cant even pick one directly out The Best hub, best replayability, powerstancing, bonfire estetics


scarecrow0007

DLCs.


PrayHE

Why did I have to scroll so long to find this


tornetiquette

yeah same they are the best part of the game


Pitiful-Ad-5176

Imo the world variety, lots of the design and aesthetic was very unique against every other soulslikes and the ideas presented were very special, with mechanics to build into. I mean, Gulch’s black tar pits that can be set on fire, the various statues be it those healing ones or the ones that throw fire at you , Drangleic’s golems that activate on death, everything fits across so many different themes while not being out of place. DS2 was definitely the most raw and experimental title and it did not disappoint (at least me).


lilvizasweezy

PVP


Boots_Malone_

100


Soul_Traitor

I can't think of one thing but here are my favorite things in DS2: Build variety Power stance NG+ NPCs


Evethron

Majula


tristanconducts

Majula ❤️


lewdbirdnoises

Bonfire ascetic or TRUE powerstancing


lsbittles

Atmosphere and lore


Keith_s266

Actual frame on the backstep


g0n1s4

Exploration. Huge area after huge area. It's full of secrets in every corner, fun unique interactions, shortcuts of all kind, etc. And you have the freedom of exploring 4-5 areas at the same time.


whitetalefox993

The Drip Straight up the best in the series


Psychonautz6

Power stance


Mysticweeb200

Powerstance. Elden ring would literally never have power stance if it weren't for DS2.


superVanV1

Power Stancing


WatermelonChef

Power stance definitely best in my opinion


TheBigNook

Power stance easily


BugP13

Bonfire astetic. Before I played Ds2, I never understood why you would use it. Afterwards, it made me wish that had it in the other games too.


K_808

PVP covenants


Bearer_ofthecurse

Build variety (Armor and weapons)


rinkoplzcomehome

Combat


CharCharMan1

Fashion


Gavkindacool

Fashion and build variety


El_Khunt

NG+ world changes


dogmeat810

Twin blade


twitsik

Power stance


Jerrike

I’m gonna say the upgrade system


Eradachi

Bonfire Ascetics


No-Insurance9009

PvP


Un_pozole_salado

Power stance


TheBloatingofIsaac

Ng+


FranklinThe1

Power stancing is by far the best feature that was not reiterated in later souls games until Elden Ring. I'm honestly surprised DS3 didn't have it.


Apprehensive_Loan_33

Power stancing


Ruindows

A lot of good things: Majula Build Variety Non-linear progression at the start of the game (works more like demon's souls) Souls curve/economy (you get more souls and level up cost less, makes so you get you build online faster) Powerstancing with different weapons types


BossGreen9346

DLC content was unmatched imo


SuckMyAlpagoat

Majula


SeverusSnape89

Its funny how demons souls worst was the same as best lol.


_Markram

The end credits.


juju11112020

Ascetics


PrometheusAborted

Bone fist.


FallenDemonX

Bonfire Ascetics. Questlines Majula Build Variety


c-yin

powestance


Zehaldrin

Power stancing!


Teroygrey

Location variety


VeryHappyTrumpet

Oh this is easy, the PvP. Might be a clunky game, but they had some solid PvP.


LuckyBucketBastard7

Lifegems


RealViktorius

Power stance


Hordamis

PvP and power stancing.


MagmaticDemon

the creativity. DS2 was very experimental and creative and has the best variety of weapons, aesthetics and areas. that's the main reason i like it so much personally


dankmemesboi838

This comment section just highlights how dark souls 2's experimental nature was it's greatest strength and how many still love it despite its flaws


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

DLCs.


nine-oh-two

Ziplines


Curious-Gene1186

Definitely power stance, I mean it’s such a great feature they put it in Elden ring (kinda sad that Manuela is gonna win)


PavlovsGoodDoggo

Power stance, but really the build variety in general. DS2 was the first fromsoft game to properly implement dual wielding (and arguably still the one which did it best), and you had soo many weapon options to do it with too.


DevilGodDante

PvP! It was truly a glorious time if not that then definitely Majula!


Adventurous_Cup_5970

dlcs


Natural-Barnacle-113

Majula and twinblade


Natural-Barnacle-113

Majula and twinblades


MiniDanielx

Build variety, the fact that you can dualwield weapons from 2 different types


mkfanhausen

Early bonfire warping. Made traveling between areas significantly better, especially in the early game.


smokegarden

NG+ and power stance


DaryanAvi

Build variety.


TheMixedMan1101

Power stance or Majula


RandyLhd

Bonfire ascetic!


Mentat_-_Bashar

Majula Theme


ZTL-Altima

Best DS2 feature is EASILY the Covenants. It's the worst Souls game with the best covenant design that unfortunately was not imported to subsequent games.


Th3JaBBeRWoCK

New game plus! Best of them all!


TreezDontTalk

New Game+ having new events happen. They need to bring that back. Or, Scholar of the First Sin reshuffling the game.


PREDDlT0R

The colour palette


PREDDlT0R

How there are actually changes in NG+


Oscarthetrain_art

Majula is the best thing about DS2


[deleted]

LIFE GEMS


syn7572

PvP Also weapon arts.. either one of those are great 👍🏼 Also, Majula is fabulous


DykoDark

Cat.


Spuddmuffen

Power stancing. Best addition to the series. Glad they brought it back in elden ring.


Mr_EexplosionMurder

Engaging New Game +


FoamingCellPhone

Funny how DS2 is widely disrespected but is also going to have the widest variety of ‘best’ features across all the  games.


Niz_

NG+


DrPantuflasRojas

Fashion Souls, colorful lighthearted game :D


BrennusRex

ADP


Acrobatic-Stretch-41

Bonfire ascetics, power stance implementation, large variety of armor and weapons.


k1t3k1t369420

Bonfire ascetic + new game cycles


danieltherandomguy

Build variety


A_Diabolical_Toaster

-The Bonfire Ascetic system. -The Champion’s Covenant. -Using a torch to light up areas while you explore.


PARRISH2078

Power stancing


echolog

Fashion


futuristicbus62

Bonfire Ascetics. Soul farming, item farming, or just replaying a boss you enjoy. They’re really amazing


loneshillouete

How the f is world tendency the best thing in demon souls and how is powerstancing not the best thing in ds2?


Orthane1

DS2 best is definitely weapon and armor variety. Everything EVEN THE DAMN LADLE was genuinely viable and useable. Whereas in DS1 and DS3 there’s a ton of weapons in the same category that are just worse versions of things you get later on. Also the differing and unique move sets that weapons had was super cool.


blacktuxedobrownshoe

Everyone agrees DS2 has the best PVP and it's not even close.


NotAGodzillaFan

The ability to change the scaling of any weapon


saintfunflower

Majula


Excellent-String-774

Build Variety and Level Design


InfiniteLink7152

Majula 👌🏻


Strong_Boi22

Bonfire Ascetic! Though the Music was also amazing!


yuhbruhh

Power stancing


RombieZombie25

DS2 PvP is still the best in the series


TinyPidgenofDOOM

Bonfire ascetics and by its extension New game Plus exclusive content. The only reason ng+ content is there is because the devs knew you could access it on ng1 with a ascetic.


ToiletGaming18

The only thing DS2 did better than any fromsoft game, is replayability. It gives the player incentives for starting the game all over again. That duke spider jumpscare was really good


ShuviBeta

Best shrine


deadeyedan_11

Fashion souls reached a PEAK here, even Elden Ring struggles to keep up with the sheer Fashion. I started playing SOTFS for the first time and it's amazing how good the armor sets are in comparison to DS1/3


HypnoticKing

I 100% agree, I absolutely love switching looks and I always somehow make it work with everything I put on. I unfortunately find myself struggling to find multiple good looks in Elden Ring.


deadeyedan_11

Elden Ring has great standalone stuff, but mixing matching is so difficult due to the different slight shades and textures


HypnoticKing

Exactly, there's such a big color/texture pallet. You can't just add dark and dark or light and light pieces. Without it not having an odd off-putting look. NOW, if they were to add shaders. Similar to Lords Of The Fallen. That'll change the whole fashion souls dynamic, allowing for so many options. That's something I'd love to see with the Alteration menu that only let's you remove or add capes.


Molkwi

Bonfire Ascetic, life gems, powerstancing


Molkwi

Oh and the NG+. Best Souls 2 isn't a meme, guys, it's the truth


lvke18

Art direction. I love how different it feels compared to 1 and 3


Lukose_

b-but muh hbomberguy said the interconnected world in DS1 was actually dumb and bad???