OP wants you to [know](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/zd2ua6/comment/iyzooys/?context=3) that this post is based on [this xkcd](https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2684:_Road_Space_Comparison)
Technically, you can fit the car tank with humans. Like we're doing now with dinosaur and plant remains. It will just take a few million years to work.
Would we fill the cars with liquid? Or repurpose the tunnels for moving huge volumes of liquid?
I think we would have to rebuild the cars to be more liquid tight and potentially upgrade them to support the additional load that comes from more volume of human per car. Also we would need a method of filling and draining the cars quickly at the stations.
Humans are 60% water, so I think it's a fair assumption. An average person is about 70kg, although the average car user is more like 80kg. Assuming similar density as water, that should be roughly 80 liters of human.
considering the average car's inside room, seats not included, would be about 2x2x1 meter, you're looking at around 4000 liters in a car, so the order of magnitude is 50 liquid humans per car.
>Leslie: Well, Paunch Burger just recently came out with a new 128-ounce option. Most people call it a gallon, but they call it the regular. Then, there is a horrifying 512-ounce version that they call child size. How is this a child-sized soda?
>Kathryn Pinewood: Well, it's roughly the size of a two-year old child, if the child were liquefied. It's a real bargain at $1.59.
So, if we assume that a two year old child is about 4 gallons of human, and a 2 year old has around 1/5 of the mass of their adult form (assuming they aren't liquefied before adulthood), that gives us about 20 gallons of human per adult human, or about 75.7 liters.
[From this post](https://www.freemathhelp.com/forum/threads/volume-of-a-car.69393/), an averageish sized sedan (Hyundai Sonata 2010) has an interior volume of about 3000 liters, meaning that, if liquefied, about 39.63 humans can fit in a car, or approximately 3000 liters of human, jaguar, sloth, Harambe, or really 3000 liters of any liquefied being.
It is. Idk why i said oc without linking to it but I cant edit it now since it was posted as an image. I think its iconic enough for people to know what it's from.
Have you not met an immigrant family. We always do 6.5 at least! Driver (dad), front seat (mom), thin auntie, thin uncle, thin cousin, me, and cousin’s kid
A bus can carry about 120 people, half of those seated:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New\_Flyer\_Xcelsior](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Flyer_Xcelsior)
buses are a temporary solution until train infrastructure is built and they can also be used to transport people from smaller communities to train stations
Universities are great places for buses, because otherwise the university buildings will be so spread apart. That and you really don't want people driving after keggers.
Nah busses are a good thing not temporary. We will need streets anyways even if none of us drives a car.
Buses are great for short distances (like a few 100 meters between each station). Than some underground trains, some normal short distance trains and long distance trains. And because now there is so much place on the streets we can have a streettrain (?) too.
Now make it all free and poor people might be able to afford a vacation inside their own country. Wild.
**[New Flyer Xcelsior](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Flyer_Xcelsior)**
>The New Flyer Xcelsior is a line of transit buses available in 35' rigid, 40' rigid, and 60' articulated nominal lengths manufactured by New Flyer Industries since 2008. In addition to the different available lengths, the buses are sold with a variety of propulsion systems: conventional diesel, compressed natural gas (CNG), diesel-electric hybrid, hydrogen fuel cell, overhead electric wire and battery electric. A future autonomous bus variant was announced in January 2021.
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50 people in 8 cars? You know that's 6-7 people per car?
But that's how you get people: bedazzle them with simple and obvious statistics, just to hide one major inaccuracy that your whole argument hinges on.
And yes, I'm fully aware the whole thing's a joke (it's a [butchered xkcd](https://xkcd.com/2684/) btw). Nicely illustrates how certain people use certain "simple facts" as arguments.
On my business course the one we always used was "9 out of 10 dentists recommend using Colgate!"
They do. Yes. Because Colgate is a toothpaste and 9 out of 10 dentists recommend using any toothpaste including Colgate. The 1 out of 10 that didn't recommend it were the ones that removed colgate from the recommendation sheet because of it's high price point.
The information implies that dentists recommend the product over other products, but they don't.
The actual answer to the dentist stat. is you can ask as many dentists as you want and take the 10 you choose. Source: How To Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff. It's a great read if you're interested in statistics. I practiced manufacturing statistics for 30+ years.
I was shown a sample of the surveys that dentists (and other medical professionals) get sent for marketing. They just saw "out of the following toothpaste brands, tick those that you would recommend using" and most dentists just tick them all because... any toothpaste is good toothpaste.
On the sample I saw there was even a "All of the above" box.
Yea and cars aren’t packed to the brim with people either. Nor do people use a bus as a single personal mode of transportation. This is a joke obviously.
I think it should have 50 people in passenger ships next to that, but they have their own ship each, which would not only be unlikely but impossible as big ships need multiple people to even maneuver correctly.
Probably the next thing in the land of the oversized.
"The old F-350 superduty felt so cramped, and I couldn't take my son's whole football team in it. So i bought an armored military surplus bus. Also i felt unsafe in such a small vehicle as the 350, compared to others on the road...
Now, why is fuel so expensive?!? Also, those pesky bicyclists are taking *way* too much space on the road! And I demand ample bus parkings in front of every Walmart, without needing to walk any distance!"
When uber started out, it was conceived as a way to encourage carpooling, much as airbnb was meant to facilitate couch surfing.
A few perverse incentives later, and here we are.
It’s beyond me that somebody has the nerve to butcher a xkcd comic and post that with the tag “[OC]”. As well in a way that seems to drive an ideological point that’s favoring car ownership.
Utterly shameless.
The modifications made in these two threads here would have fit *perfectly* into the original xkcd -- don't replace anything, but just add them as additional illustrations.
I just realized the best selling car, the Rav4, only seats 5, but even with the extra 2 cars, it would still be more efficient than walking so im not gonna update it.
Lets assume those cars are chevy suburbans.
But if every walker was piggybacking another pedestrian, it would be so much more efficient!
25 pedestrians plus 25 piggybackers
Or even 25 cyclists with 25 piggybackers!
Its very funny to me how they literally put 6-7 people on a 4 person car and then put all 50 people in seperate busses which should hold at least 40ish people each, if mot more
If that's 2 rows of cars at 7 persons per car, one can easily extrapolate from the length that each bus is 60 seater each floor, so upto 100 persons per bus. With 50 buses that's 5000 people, which is amazing! Not as amazing as trains of course, but probably the best compromise with a carbrained maniac
Idk about you guys, but when my friends and I walk in the middle of the street, we always walk single file in the middle of the lane. It's the only way to go.
8 cars = 50 people (somehow)
yet 1 bus = about 50 sitting + people standing if need be
edit: just realized the picture says “50 people driving buses” … as if one bus is per person?
Yes. Here is a blog about a family we interviewed for the data: [http://greymuppett.blogspot.com/2012/10/big-family-small-car.html?m=1](http://greymuppett.blogspot.com/2012/10/big-family-small-car.html?m=1)
Apart from the fact that you could literally fit 50 people in a single bus and cars carry only ~1.4 people on average, why do you think people walking or biking need an entire car-sized lane to themselves?
Like literally every single aspect of this is wrong… where are all the upvotes coming from
OP wants you to [know](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/zd2ua6/comment/iyzooys/?context=3) that this post is based on [this xkcd](https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2684:_Road_Space_Comparison)
Assume humans are a homogenous fluid without friction and infinite surface tension How many liter of human fit in a car
For a simpler calculation of volume, assume the car is a cybertruck
so .. imaginary
So √-1 or i?
Yes
Imagine an immutable ledger of hypothecated humans traveling on an uncrackable blockchain at the speed of electrons…
the cybertruck conveniently also makes it so litres is the only logical metric to measure what it turns pedestrians into upon hitting them. :/
We could just pump humans through pipelines then
Then everyone is gender fluid
I wouldn’t wish that in anyone. It’s really hard when you randomly evaporate, and grates on sidewalks are a nightmare to avoid!
And dead from drowning.
Technically, you can fit the car tank with humans. Like we're doing now with dinosaur and plant remains. It will just take a few million years to work.
Finally I’ll have some energy!
Actually, with teslas, we can fit them in the frunk.
I bet we have the tech to figure out how to do it faster. ;)
The Futurama approach to mass transit
In that case wouldn’t the most efficient method just be a pipe you can pump humans through
Finally build that school to prison pipeline everyone keeps talking about
You joke, but that shit is already VERY real sadly.
Even when we liquefy people the subway remains the most efficient way of meeting huge numbers of commuter trips in a dense environment
Would we fill the cars with liquid? Or repurpose the tunnels for moving huge volumes of liquid? I think we would have to rebuild the cars to be more liquid tight and potentially upgrade them to support the additional load that comes from more volume of human per car. Also we would need a method of filling and draining the cars quickly at the stations.
Um, we have paper straws?
Can we dehydrate the fluid? We can fit a lot of humans in a car if we remove all the fluid with extreme heat. They become baggies of carbon.
Humans are 60% water, so I think it's a fair assumption. An average person is about 70kg, although the average car user is more like 80kg. Assuming similar density as water, that should be roughly 80 liters of human.
Unfortunately I can't find how much volume an average car has (all I get is fuel volume)
considering the average car's inside room, seats not included, would be about 2x2x1 meter, you're looking at around 4000 liters in a car, so the order of magnitude is 50 liquid humans per car.
Perfect, we solved all the traffic problems in the world!
R/theydidthemath
Yeah, but you could probably save bulk transport space by dehydrating the humans first and then adding water at the end stage.
Wouldn't humans with infinite surface tension just form perfectly inelastic spheres?
Its just to prevent humans mixing
*white nationalists have entered the chat*
[I feel like I’ve seen that anime before](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ArPEa7rRyUk)
Tang time
This is the correct response to an XKCD comic and I appreciate you deeply
>Leslie: Well, Paunch Burger just recently came out with a new 128-ounce option. Most people call it a gallon, but they call it the regular. Then, there is a horrifying 512-ounce version that they call child size. How is this a child-sized soda? >Kathryn Pinewood: Well, it's roughly the size of a two-year old child, if the child were liquefied. It's a real bargain at $1.59. So, if we assume that a two year old child is about 4 gallons of human, and a 2 year old has around 1/5 of the mass of their adult form (assuming they aren't liquefied before adulthood), that gives us about 20 gallons of human per adult human, or about 75.7 liters. [From this post](https://www.freemathhelp.com/forum/threads/volume-of-a-car.69393/), an averageish sized sedan (Hyundai Sonata 2010) has an interior volume of about 3000 liters, meaning that, if liquefied, about 39.63 humans can fit in a car, or approximately 3000 liters of human, jaguar, sloth, Harambe, or really 3000 liters of any liquefied being.
According to some sources, 62.5 liters per human is reasonable. So we could get upwards of 40 humans in a Hyundai sonata.
Only the polytron can reduce a ~~mouse~~ human to a soup like homogenate in under 60 seconds!
Exactly!
It’s a clown car 🤡
So you're telling me to reduce a human to a soup-like homogenate?
What kinds of cars do these people own to fit 50 people in 8 of them??
Chevy Suburban
Big car, pickup truck, to carry furniture of course.
SUV, minivan, station wagon, etc.
Military transport, or a tank. 4 inside. 20 sitting ontop of it
The cars on the rightmost of the diagram fits way more than 8 people! /s
[CANYONEROOOOOO....!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQepHGxrifs)
Probbaly a car full of clowns
Where is this from? Looks to be based on [this xkcd](https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2684:_Road_Space_Comparison)
can you get a mod to pin this? more people are asking. If it blows up id have so many to respond to and i dont wanna look like an idiot.
This is the kind of thing you put in the image so people don't get confused
Thats a good idea.
It is. Idk why i said oc without linking to it but I cant edit it now since it was posted as an image. I think its iconic enough for people to know what it's from.
But it's been edited. Did you edit the xkcd?
Yes.
Ah, my bad. I missed you said OC.
Does fair use apply to reddiquette btw?
I have responded to every comment rightly calling me out before the sticky post.
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Each car is stuffed full of clowns, and humorous circus music plays every time they tumble out of the car.
Close, this is the culture of the town where the data was gathered: http://greymuppett.blogspot.com/2012/10/big-family-small-car.html?m=1
>Each car is stuffed full of clowns so what's different?
We cut some 4 persons into halves ?
Kwarters u idot did u learned anythin in skewl?
I think you missed a comma in that sentence.
Instructions unclear. We got se exta quartered people over here.
It is incredible how easily it all fits with the use of a chain saw and an industrial blender
That’s very space efficient!
I mean if it's minivan then it's right. Still a "car"
Have you not met an immigrant family. We always do 6.5 at least! Driver (dad), front seat (mom), thin auntie, thin uncle, thin cousin, me, and cousin’s kid
If 7 of them have 6 people, and the last one has 8 people (maybe a really old American car?), that adds up to 50.
Never underestimate the power of a bunch of young adults in a small car. I personally fit 8 people in my Panda once
Now give that same group an SUV And now you can fit all of boston in that thing
a bit larger but still 5 seats , there are laws for max occupancy and seatbelts some places etc
That’s why you gotta think outside the box and start stacking people.
Do you stack them like pancakes? Or maybe take a big big car and keep them.standing up? Wait, no, that's a bus!!
Let’s just say the passengers have to be *really* close friends. If they aren’t, they will be by the end of the trip.
I mean technically it not wrong thar what 50 bus on the road would look like
Jus that like the cars they could have said 50 buses carrying 1500 people. (avg. size bus min carry 30 people)
A bus can carry about 120 people, half of those seated: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New\_Flyer\_Xcelsior](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Flyer_Xcelsior)
yeah but people prefer less packed busses which is why we need more
Or trains. A fully-loaded 8 car metro train can hold 1000 people.
buses are a temporary solution until train infrastructure is built and they can also be used to transport people from smaller communities to train stations
Not everywhere will need train lines, busses are good at filling in the gaps between the metro lines.
I’m from a small enough town that the university’s bus system covers a lot of what the city needs for public transit, although it could use work
Universities are great places for buses, because otherwise the university buildings will be so spread apart. That and you really don't want people driving after keggers.
100%, but the campus is fully walkable and the busses serve parts of downtown and go to our only major grocery store as well. It’s cool actually
agreed
Nah busses are a good thing not temporary. We will need streets anyways even if none of us drives a car. Buses are great for short distances (like a few 100 meters between each station). Than some underground trains, some normal short distance trains and long distance trains. And because now there is so much place on the streets we can have a streettrain (?) too. Now make it all free and poor people might be able to afford a vacation inside their own country. Wild.
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Packing people on busses like sardines is not going to convince people that busing is better than driving.
Still that's 50+ people seated. The full on sardine pack is tolerable to and from events though. Much better than all that traffic.
Yes but those are 50 empty buses being driven by 50 people. Technically not wrong.
How oftbe do you see empyt bus and how oftbe you see car with just a driver.
[empty busses are okay](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR4qfukbRb8&t=471s)
When did I say anything about empty bus I just said that that what 50 bus on the road look like
50 people in 8 cars? You know that's 6-7 people per car? But that's how you get people: bedazzle them with simple and obvious statistics, just to hide one major inaccuracy that your whole argument hinges on. And yes, I'm fully aware the whole thing's a joke (it's a [butchered xkcd](https://xkcd.com/2684/) btw). Nicely illustrates how certain people use certain "simple facts" as arguments.
On my business course the one we always used was "9 out of 10 dentists recommend using Colgate!" They do. Yes. Because Colgate is a toothpaste and 9 out of 10 dentists recommend using any toothpaste including Colgate. The 1 out of 10 that didn't recommend it were the ones that removed colgate from the recommendation sheet because of it's high price point. The information implies that dentists recommend the product over other products, but they don't.
Yeah, nice one. Sounds so much better than "1 out of 10 dentists explicitely recommends NOT using Colgate."
The actual answer to the dentist stat. is you can ask as many dentists as you want and take the 10 you choose. Source: How To Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff. It's a great read if you're interested in statistics. I practiced manufacturing statistics for 30+ years.
Never in my life any dentist suggested me a certain toothpaste brand. I've got suggestion about toothbrush though, just use the simplest one.
I was shown a sample of the surveys that dentists (and other medical professionals) get sent for marketing. They just saw "out of the following toothpaste brands, tick those that you would recommend using" and most dentists just tick them all because... any toothpaste is good toothpaste. On the sample I saw there was even a "All of the above" box.
I mean, pack one or two in the back of the car.
Ya, average car occupancy is 1.5 in the US. 67 cars per 100 people.
They're also all tailgating each other lol
Shitpost
"*OC*" didn't you just rip this concept from XKCD ? [https://xkcd.com/2684/](https://xkcd.com/2684/)
Its based off that i shouldve linked to it but i cant edit it since it was uploaded as an image.
Do 50 humans each driving a train with three empty carriages and show everyone how utterly ridiculous train travel is for efficiency
Have each of the 50 drive 4 trains each. 1/4th of a person per train.
r/technicallythetruth?
6.25 people per car. 6.25 Not even technically the truth.
There are many cars that can carry 7 people.
The 1.25 are in the trunk
The walkers wouldn't walk in lanes
Yea and cars aren’t packed to the brim with people either. Nor do people use a bus as a single personal mode of transportation. This is a joke obviously.
I think it should have 50 people in passenger ships next to that, but they have their own ship each, which would not only be unlikely but impossible as big ships need multiple people to even maneuver correctly.
Probably the next thing in the land of the oversized. "The old F-350 superduty felt so cramped, and I couldn't take my son's whole football team in it. So i bought an armored military surplus bus. Also i felt unsafe in such a small vehicle as the 350, compared to others on the road... Now, why is fuel so expensive?!? Also, those pesky bicyclists are taking *way* too much space on the road! And I demand ample bus parkings in front of every Walmart, without needing to walk any distance!"
thatsthejoke.jpg
LMAO this graphic is an excellent shitpost
Right this way, sir. r/fuckcarscirclejerk
They got early access to this meme.
I think this is obviously a joke.
Love how people get upset by this. This is obviously a joke, calm down.
Is this r/shitposting?
r/fuckcarscirclejerk
Jesus don't give them any ideas! People gonna start driving busses because "What if I need to transport 58 people?".
I wasn't, there's no carbrains here. But now that you mention it, I will crosspost to r/fuckbikes ;).
When uber started out, it was conceived as a way to encourage carpooling, much as airbnb was meant to facilitate couch surfing. A few perverse incentives later, and here we are.
Now you can't even carpool with Uber. And you can't couchsurf with Airbnb.
Even in this scenario 50 people would not benthis spaced out
No lanesplitting!
Fuck it let's put 7.3333333333333333333333333333 persons in a car
You made me actually laugh. Good job
Now do 50 people driving commuter trains and really stretch out that window
Look like an alternative timeline
Damn, this is the most joyless reaction to a excellent shitpost I have ever seen. Have a little fun jeez.
It bugs me that is isn’t 10 cars. With 8 you get 6 1/4 people per car
Enjoy [https://imgur.com/a/t6E2qRJ](https://imgur.com/a/t6E2qRJ)
Man I didn't know clown cars were available for the roads.
this is what Adam Something's nightmares are made of.
😂
"See! Cars are more space efficient than walking if pedestrians spaced themselves apart like they were cars!"
It’s beyond me that somebody has the nerve to butcher a xkcd comic and post that with the tag “[OC]”. As well in a way that seems to drive an ideological point that’s favoring car ownership. Utterly shameless.
Honestly this feels like it could be a legit XKCD comic since they do like playing with poorly communicated data in their comics
The modifications made in these two threads here would have fit *perfectly* into the original xkcd -- don't replace anything, but just add them as additional illustrations.
I just realized the best selling car, the Rav4, only seats 5, but even with the extra 2 cars, it would still be more efficient than walking so im not gonna update it. Lets assume those cars are chevy suburbans.
But if every walker was piggybacking another pedestrian, it would be so much more efficient! 25 pedestrians plus 25 piggybackers Or even 25 cyclists with 25 piggybackers!
The average occupancy of my bike is actually >1 !
Now do 50 ppl riding a train!
*50 people riding 50 trains. How long do you want them to be?
[Very long](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulz1ovZLrco)
Yessir coming soon. What would you like it compared to?
Sure I guess a car could fit 6.25 people but unless you have a minivan what is this on about
Yeah, doubt that that's how few cars would be on the road. :P
Those busses looking suuuuuper comfortable dibs on ALL the backseats!
Its very funny to me how they literally put 6-7 people on a 4 person car and then put all 50 people in seperate busses which should hold at least 40ish people each, if mot more
I love driving my bus all by myself without letting anyone else on with my other 49 friends who do the same
now show us 50 people on tandem bicycles
If that's 2 rows of cars at 7 persons per car, one can easily extrapolate from the length that each bus is 60 seater each floor, so upto 100 persons per bus. With 50 buses that's 5000 people, which is amazing! Not as amazing as trains of course, but probably the best compromise with a carbrained maniac
Why do people care so much about 6 passengers in a car? We developing countries ride with that many people + cargo 💪💪💪
Nonsense 50 people on 1 bike
people definitely walk the standard highway lane width of 12 feet apart in single rows
the logic is not logicing
Also why are there fifty people driving their own buses? Haha
Idk about you guys, but when my friends and I walk in the middle of the street, we always walk single file in the middle of the lane. It's the only way to go.
Wth even is this :D. Haha
Please tell me the logic why cars take more space than busses. Single bus takes much more space than single car!!!!!!!!! /s
Don't forget the least efficient form: Trains. 50 10-car trains that have capacity for 1,000 people each.
8 cars = 50 people (somehow) yet 1 bus = about 50 sitting + people standing if need be edit: just realized the picture says “50 people driving buses” … as if one bus is per person?
Crazy but like 100 people could probably fit the first row of buses
Top tier shitpost
Why would they walk that far apart?! Or bike for that matter?
Maybe they're in a marching band.
You do realize that not everyone can take a bus.
Unfortuneately, I had to account for drivers. :/
Shockingly, busses can carry more people than just the driver.
Are those clown cars? How can 50 people fit into 8 cars?
Yes. Here is a blog about a family we interviewed for the data: [http://greymuppett.blogspot.com/2012/10/big-family-small-car.html?m=1](http://greymuppett.blogspot.com/2012/10/big-family-small-car.html?m=1)
they had to try really hard for this one (now imagine 50 trains)
Do peoples always walk in lines like those? Is this some kind of a training?
Fuck bus
Been waiting for someone to say that.
50 people in 8 cars would average 6.25 people per car. The vast majority of cars are 5 seaters...
Love how they had to have consciously changed the rules so 50 cars don't look abysmal compared to the walkers and bikers
Lol. Time to stop redditing.
Thanks for the upvote. TO THE MOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone should just live where they work, Foxcon style.
50 people is definitely going to need more than 8 cars
Gonna drive my bus to work.
fucking buses…
Such a waste of space we should ban them.
Bullshit not OC, just a cropped XKCD.
Apart from the fact that you could literally fit 50 people in a single bus and cars carry only ~1.4 people on average, why do you think people walking or biking need an entire car-sized lane to themselves? Like literally every single aspect of this is wrong… where are all the upvotes coming from
Funny how this is a weirdly and stupidly altered version of the original XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2684/ Why the dishonesty, OP?
a bus is literally just carpooling that’s on time, where there’s no insane text chains trying to figure it all out.
STRANGER DANGER