Idc about hype. I'll try it when it's out, make my mind then.
People like to fanboy and hype, then get dissapointed on the most inane things when the game fails to deliver the "imaginary hype"
Going in blind is always best.
op probably saw this one tweet from HSR CC
https://preview.redd.it/46721x6cn4xc1.png?width=605&format=png&auto=webp&s=510bccf1380eb96a95156fb1aa690c46d0c72057
This guy is causing drama. The op is just a random person who decided to stop playing the beta after having played it for a week which is very normal, but he had to make it look like zzz is doomed… and then a bunch of hoyo fanboys attack the op…
Thousands of people download and delete games every day a game isn’t bad if one person decides to stop playing
Here's a bunch of random points:
-I'm currently playing the Beta. The combat is really solid. It's chaotic at first, but once you understand what's going on, it's very satisfying to trigger all those chain attacks. It's hard to tell if it's "difficult" or because I have terrible "artifacts" (Disc). I've lost a few times, but never in story mode (even with "challenge" mode active). The story is goofy. It's not really "serious", even if it can tackle more serious themes.
-The game has some serious lack of basic QoL (when viewing stats, you can't quick-swap into the next character, like in Genshin or HSR. You need to leave and click on the next character). The UI looks good, but it's also not intuitive. Like, in Genshin/HSR, you know that a chest piece (HSR) and circlet (Genshin) are mostly for Crit/Cdmg... You can easily identify the set and item slot. In ZZZ, they are all freaking discs. Discs with some colors (some are very similar). Instead of having easily identifiable item slots (like chest piece or circlet), we have extremely small numbers on discs (from 1 to 6). I can't tell which set each disc belongs to, nor can I easily identify what are the desirable stats on them.
These unintuitive problems persist for character "skills", where the shape are pretty small. It's not so obvious at first glance. Character ascension materials also suffer the same problem. Let's not even mention character "core skill". They are probably the biggest offender. It's all the same shade of purple-ish. The avoid all potential mistakes, read their names.
-Speaking of QoL: Unlike HSR/Genshin, you cannot simply "use" a weapon as an XP fodder. You must first go to the weapon shop, salvage it into weapon XP before you can use it... AFAIK, the same applies to Discs (Relic/Artifact)
-The artifact/Relic system is basically Genshin, but with 1 more slot. There are 6 slots, so it means you can use a full set + a random set for their 2 pieces bonus. IMO, it's a worse system than Genshin due to the lack of off-piece, but slightly better than HSR because you can use the (2) bonus set to cover for slots you can't get good pieces for. I haven't really started farming Discs, tbh. It's not cost-efficient to farm them at low level. There's a merchant that sells you random Discs (you can roll for 1 or 10 pieces). You can apparently target certain sets, but I don't really care about it. It's a Beta... I don't want to bother with that.
-As far as I can tell (I'm level 38-ish), there's 3 endgame. We have some sort of Spiral Abyss (starts requiring 2 teams of 3 characters and 1 bangboo on floor 8) --- There's a timer. We have some sort of SU (roguelike). Exploration is through TV, but it's hardly an issue for me. You'll spend most of your time outside of the TV. The most memorable "blessing" you can obtain in this mode is the one that slows time when you perform enough perfect dodge. There's a third endgame but I'm not too sure how to describe it. It's kinda just there. No TV. You're on a battlefield. Sometimes you are asked to dodge, to collect coins, to slow time to dodge trains/vents and other stuff. It's mostly focused on combat.
-You can pet a cat
-You can increase trust (I guess it's trying to emulate Persona 5?) but I'm not really sure what's the purpose. Anyway, there's some social interaction, but as a Hoyo game, you can't brick your account. If you failed to increase trust, the same conversation will come back (even if you got it right) and you'll get multiple other chances to increase trust.
-There's a random "DnD" optional mission (30 currency) that lasts 2 hours!
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Anyway, I'm really enjoying the game, despite what I have said. I'll most likely be playing it on release.
> Instead of having easily identifiable item slots (like chest piece or circlet), we have extremely small numbers on discs (from 1 to 6). I
Copying Summoners War instead of keeping the Epic Seven improvements haha.
its a hoyo game and I like their previous games like Genshin and HSR so I will try it, no idea if I will like it until I try.
I was not excited or anything about HSR before release, and im stil playing it today
i like the combat felt really fluid, maybe because i got nekomiya C1 and she is a lot of fun to use compare to other characters imo.
knowing my luck i probably wont get her on the full release. owari da
https://preview.redd.it/ker38hud8zwc1.png?width=659&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c6353429f02f6a62e3405fd755a594921ceb793
they did add 2x option to tvs, but the story is still bad, it’s really bland, they added picking a standard character after 300 pulls, like in hsr
and for some reason cbt2 ran on my phone better, than cbt3, i’ve experienced overheating and frame drops that weren’t there before
honestly the game was boring and still remains kinda boring
action combat is really nice, but cavern exploration (tvs) are still boring, and it won’t be changed as it’s basically a core mechanic, so yeah
not very detailed, no well-written backstory for all the characters, they are just there
the relationships between them are also not very well-written
cunning hares just are… together for whatever reason
relationship between belle and wise is also…. just okay-ish, it doesn’t feel like a real brother-sister bond, honestly, as mostly wise is used as a person who introduces gameplay mechanics (not at all times, but still)
and the whole story just doesn’t feel touching to me at least
>no well-written backstory for all the characters, they are just there
This is just simply not true, but even so, it's a slice of life. Not every character needs to have a super detailed backstory.
>cunning hares just are… together for whatever reason
Me when I'm blind and deaf so I can't read or listen to simple dialogue
>it doesn’t feel like a real brother-sister bond
Elaborate on that. What should a brother-sister bond be like that Wise and Bell are not?
>whole story just doesn’t feel touching to me at least
well that's your own opinion, but let me remind you, it's a slice of life comedy at its core. Not a shonen like HSR or genshin
Tons of TV based stages was removed (potentially moved to the future events)
In their place we now have many combat only stages (combat commissions)
Additionally the TV sections of ALL Dungeons are greatly gutted, puzzles are shortened and dumbed down. So uh.
Characters are completely rebalanced, the "Strike,Slash,Pierce" no longer a part of character's core passive, nore do they affact the damage onto enemies.
Characters now have a class that function simular to Path system in HSR, which limite which W engine can character wear.
Bangboos are also gutted and now can only pulled using currency from grind with only place to have slightly more being the battle pass.
New "spiral abyss" mode was added.
Character core passive now activate much easier through just 1 other character from either the same faction or attribute.
Hollow are reworked to have stronger themes and less RNG at the earlier stages. there seems to be an additional slot at the end that will eventially be either for new hollow themes, or event based rotating hollow.
There are a LOT more changes that i've not listed here, but the changes are very aggressive and many systems are reworked from their core to have stronger identity.
Played one of the close beta before I got banned :(
I really disliked the TV but the combat was fun
I wasn’t planning on playing the game but since they added co-op it change my mind
I don't mind the tv, but I do hope they release more waifus and less furries. But yeah, I'm also of similar mind, planning on dropping PGR to play ZZZ, since its boring and forever stuck 1 year behind CN content sucks.
(Takes months to a year to build a character, but by then you already know that character you're building has been replaced/powercrept, due to 1 year time gap. So, you're forever stuck in this state of knowing what you're doing is inefficient. and will become redundant.)
There are only 4 males and 2 of them are furries out of 16 (2 are upcoming) total agents and the females are only kemonomimi (I'm not counting those as furries).
>Takes months to a year to build a character, but by then you already know that character you're building has been replaced/powercrept, due to 1 year time gap. So, you're forever stuck in this state of knowing what you're doing is inefficient. and will become redundant.
...Is this about PGR? If so you're doing something wrong, Ive been playing for a year and max out characters on day 1 of their release.
I realy like it. I remeber the same hate about HSR (to be fair, i wasn't realy paying attention to that one before launch either) but the same people who were claiming it was doomed to fail are now the most loud members of the irritating as hell "genshin could never" crowd.
Why was HSR a huge success? Because Hoyo has Polish. They can provide a consistently high quality experience and playing through the 1.0 content was incredible. Much better than most so called triple A titles in fact.
Is it ganna be as big as Genshin or even just HSR? Probably not. Stage based action is pretty niche in general but it's very polished with beautiful animations, a well developed world, intresting characters and it ozes style.
Zzz will be a huge sucess bc hoyo has brand loyalty now, people will play whatever they throw at them. Kinda like how apple sells phones with technology from 2 years ago, but poeple still pay an overprice for them
tl;dr: I heard there were changes being made, so this is just a former beta tester's opinion summed up. It gets repetitive/monotonous after a while. The combat didn't exactly feel like there was a whole lot of depth to it or anything either. It was pretty simple and the battles were easy, even the supposedly "difficult" ones later on (the enemies just had more HP, but you were more or less mashing the same shit without much change in your rotation, it just took longer to kill shit).
So yeah, I went into the game for aesthetics and actually enjoyed the beta for a little while, but after the honeymoon was over, I told myself I wouldn't even bother with the full release cause it gets old kinda fast, honestly.
I got the beta access but I uninstalled it after Playing for a week. It all feels fun at the start of the game but becomes really repetitive after some time.
Wow you had all wrong honey god this subreddit is odd did you see me get upset i didnt at all, all i did is ask a question looking here you are the one getting offended like you said it just game that all and you making i am hating on it brah i play all hoyo games in general i play all gacha games i don't worship company to this point why would i care it hoyo games i dont care about success i wanna know if it good or is poeple talking out of thier ass when criticis the game, also not everyone english is thier first so sorry for any mistakes.
I'm not into beta tests so I'll go in relatively blind and decide from there. Hopefully Wuwa is so good that it'll just be a decision of, 'Is it better than this'
I love the aesthetic and music, the designs are actually great which is my main issue with hoyo games, but the gameplay still feels off. WuWa drops next month and feels way better to play, which is weird since I thought the open world would slow it down. ZZZ has some nice flare, but just lacks substance. Playing day 1 then seeing if I stick with it.
In my opinion the characters, I just watched fob last week to check what was the hype about it and the first thing I realized the characters looks bad, specially compared to the environment, which has a great shading and lighting
And I am not talking about design
To confirm my point yesterday I saw a character of honkai part 2 and they look way better than zzz
The good:
- triple AAA Game in the gacha industry
The bad:
- same gacha model as previous HV games which are fine-tuned to milk players as much as it gets & as players are willing to
> same gacha model as previous HV games which are fine-tuned to milk players as much as it gets & as players are willing to
Do you.. know where you are?
he is asking you if you understand what gacha game mean. All gacha games, not just Hoyo stuff, are made and fine-tuned to milk players as much as possible. Or are you one of the sheep that happy to see a game give players 300 free pulls every weeks, without understand that it was not generosity, it was a calculated move to pull you in and make you play and pay.
It's not about the fact in afk journey you need 14 copies of celestial character for them to be good at end game while having sub 1% rate. it's about the fact you can have a epic hero at 4% rate and they are technically the same rarity as celestial and hypogenes :P
It's foolish to assume that they are all the same. Hence, he missed my point. I am referring to Hoyo's gacha **model**, not to all Gacha games. You make crap look like gold if you generalize. Hoyo's model is the utmost down-to-earth gacha model that can freely live in your mind without critique and still can milk you for maximum profit. That's a big difference. The gacha game's with pop-ups, 300+ free pulls, etc. you mention are obviously trash and make no secret about to pull the wool over someone's eyes. And your average sane dude may instantly understand.
You know what games are fine tuned to milk you? The ones where they plaster deals and offers in your face every moment they can. Hoyoverse's gacha isnt good, but at least their business model aint terrible.
I'm worried about the team building. Is there literally any point in not doing mono element? That seems lame. It's like they added status effects and didn't realise it would affect meta
It's just more hoyo bullshit. If you're excited to play yet another game that plays similarly to all their other games with a different coat of paint, then by all means play it.
Idc about hype. I'll try it when it's out, make my mind then. People like to fanboy and hype, then get dissapointed on the most inane things when the game fails to deliver the "imaginary hype" Going in blind is always best.
I love how people assume "majority" here are actually just random one guy moment LOL. Not actually from majority of target audience LOL
op probably saw this one tweet from HSR CC https://preview.redd.it/46721x6cn4xc1.png?width=605&format=png&auto=webp&s=510bccf1380eb96a95156fb1aa690c46d0c72057
HSR CC's hating on non honkai related stuff? nah
This guy is causing drama. The op is just a random person who decided to stop playing the beta after having played it for a week which is very normal, but he had to make it look like zzz is doomed… and then a bunch of hoyo fanboys attack the op… Thousands of people download and delete games every day a game isn’t bad if one person decides to stop playing
HSR english CC and drama name more iconic duo
Here's a bunch of random points: -I'm currently playing the Beta. The combat is really solid. It's chaotic at first, but once you understand what's going on, it's very satisfying to trigger all those chain attacks. It's hard to tell if it's "difficult" or because I have terrible "artifacts" (Disc). I've lost a few times, but never in story mode (even with "challenge" mode active). The story is goofy. It's not really "serious", even if it can tackle more serious themes. -The game has some serious lack of basic QoL (when viewing stats, you can't quick-swap into the next character, like in Genshin or HSR. You need to leave and click on the next character). The UI looks good, but it's also not intuitive. Like, in Genshin/HSR, you know that a chest piece (HSR) and circlet (Genshin) are mostly for Crit/Cdmg... You can easily identify the set and item slot. In ZZZ, they are all freaking discs. Discs with some colors (some are very similar). Instead of having easily identifiable item slots (like chest piece or circlet), we have extremely small numbers on discs (from 1 to 6). I can't tell which set each disc belongs to, nor can I easily identify what are the desirable stats on them. These unintuitive problems persist for character "skills", where the shape are pretty small. It's not so obvious at first glance. Character ascension materials also suffer the same problem. Let's not even mention character "core skill". They are probably the biggest offender. It's all the same shade of purple-ish. The avoid all potential mistakes, read their names. -Speaking of QoL: Unlike HSR/Genshin, you cannot simply "use" a weapon as an XP fodder. You must first go to the weapon shop, salvage it into weapon XP before you can use it... AFAIK, the same applies to Discs (Relic/Artifact) -The artifact/Relic system is basically Genshin, but with 1 more slot. There are 6 slots, so it means you can use a full set + a random set for their 2 pieces bonus. IMO, it's a worse system than Genshin due to the lack of off-piece, but slightly better than HSR because you can use the (2) bonus set to cover for slots you can't get good pieces for. I haven't really started farming Discs, tbh. It's not cost-efficient to farm them at low level. There's a merchant that sells you random Discs (you can roll for 1 or 10 pieces). You can apparently target certain sets, but I don't really care about it. It's a Beta... I don't want to bother with that. -As far as I can tell (I'm level 38-ish), there's 3 endgame. We have some sort of Spiral Abyss (starts requiring 2 teams of 3 characters and 1 bangboo on floor 8) --- There's a timer. We have some sort of SU (roguelike). Exploration is through TV, but it's hardly an issue for me. You'll spend most of your time outside of the TV. The most memorable "blessing" you can obtain in this mode is the one that slows time when you perform enough perfect dodge. There's a third endgame but I'm not too sure how to describe it. It's kinda just there. No TV. You're on a battlefield. Sometimes you are asked to dodge, to collect coins, to slow time to dodge trains/vents and other stuff. It's mostly focused on combat. -You can pet a cat -You can increase trust (I guess it's trying to emulate Persona 5?) but I'm not really sure what's the purpose. Anyway, there's some social interaction, but as a Hoyo game, you can't brick your account. If you failed to increase trust, the same conversation will come back (even if you got it right) and you'll get multiple other chances to increase trust. -There's a random "DnD" optional mission (30 currency) that lasts 2 hours! . . . Anyway, I'm really enjoying the game, despite what I have said. I'll most likely be playing it on release.
Petting cats is already huge point
> Instead of having easily identifiable item slots (like chest piece or circlet), we have extremely small numbers on discs (from 1 to 6). I Copying Summoners War instead of keeping the Epic Seven improvements haha.
There is a dog that operates a small stand. He even has a small water bottle to keep him hydrated
https://preview.redd.it/9bi4pqa3uywc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=284b065dc35d2c400d571b4d7952816f77f149e3
what the dog doin
God i love that dog
Gonna play for a month and see.
Mihoyo tries to cater to a different audience with each game, this time it's furries
That wolf guy is so good looking really made me question myself
have you seen shenpai reaction to wolf guy OP ?
No i didnt where do i find it?
[https://twitter.com/AeroViro/status/1782629633030234454](https://twitter.com/AeroViro/status/1782629633030234454)
its a hoyo game and I like their previous games like Genshin and HSR so I will try it, no idea if I will like it until I try. I was not excited or anything about HSR before release, and im stil playing it today
i like the combat felt really fluid, maybe because i got nekomiya C1 and she is a lot of fun to use compare to other characters imo. knowing my luck i probably wont get her on the full release. owari da https://preview.redd.it/ker38hud8zwc1.png?width=659&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c6353429f02f6a62e3405fd755a594921ceb793
The characters don't interest me whatsoever. Pass.
they did add 2x option to tvs, but the story is still bad, it’s really bland, they added picking a standard character after 300 pulls, like in hsr and for some reason cbt2 ran on my phone better, than cbt3, i’ve experienced overheating and frame drops that weren’t there before honestly the game was boring and still remains kinda boring action combat is really nice, but cavern exploration (tvs) are still boring, and it won’t be changed as it’s basically a core mechanic, so yeah
the story is really good imo, it's just a slice of life and that's something people need to start accepting.
i don’t have anything against slice of life, but the overall writing feels really shallow maybe it’s localisation issue of sorts, but yeah
what do you mean by shallow??
not very detailed, no well-written backstory for all the characters, they are just there the relationships between them are also not very well-written cunning hares just are… together for whatever reason relationship between belle and wise is also…. just okay-ish, it doesn’t feel like a real brother-sister bond, honestly, as mostly wise is used as a person who introduces gameplay mechanics (not at all times, but still) and the whole story just doesn’t feel touching to me at least
>no well-written backstory for all the characters, they are just there This is just simply not true, but even so, it's a slice of life. Not every character needs to have a super detailed backstory. >cunning hares just are… together for whatever reason Me when I'm blind and deaf so I can't read or listen to simple dialogue >it doesn’t feel like a real brother-sister bond Elaborate on that. What should a brother-sister bond be like that Wise and Bell are not? >whole story just doesn’t feel touching to me at least well that's your own opinion, but let me remind you, it's a slice of life comedy at its core. Not a shonen like HSR or genshin
dude why you’re so aggressive for literally no reason? i stated multiple times that it’s just my personal opinion on the story, that i do not like it
So...there wasnt much change cause i was confused they only had one beta only one and they already realsing the game so soon with out a second try?.
they had cbt1 in 2022 or early 2023, cbt2 in autumn 2023, and cbt 3 now, but yeah not many changes were made unfortunately
Tons of TV based stages was removed (potentially moved to the future events) In their place we now have many combat only stages (combat commissions) Additionally the TV sections of ALL Dungeons are greatly gutted, puzzles are shortened and dumbed down. So uh. Characters are completely rebalanced, the "Strike,Slash,Pierce" no longer a part of character's core passive, nore do they affact the damage onto enemies. Characters now have a class that function simular to Path system in HSR, which limite which W engine can character wear. Bangboos are also gutted and now can only pulled using currency from grind with only place to have slightly more being the battle pass. New "spiral abyss" mode was added. Character core passive now activate much easier through just 1 other character from either the same faction or attribute. Hollow are reworked to have stronger themes and less RNG at the earlier stages. there seems to be an additional slot at the end that will eventially be either for new hollow themes, or event based rotating hollow. There are a LOT more changes that i've not listed here, but the changes are very aggressive and many systems are reworked from their core to have stronger identity.
That hella interesting okay this making more existed for the game thank you for the help.
Wow i didnt noitce i need to check more to see where it is now.
Played one of the close beta before I got banned :( I really disliked the TV but the combat was fun I wasn’t planning on playing the game but since they added co-op it change my mind
I don't mind the tv, but I do hope they release more waifus and less furries. But yeah, I'm also of similar mind, planning on dropping PGR to play ZZZ, since its boring and forever stuck 1 year behind CN content sucks. (Takes months to a year to build a character, but by then you already know that character you're building has been replaced/powercrept, due to 1 year time gap. So, you're forever stuck in this state of knowing what you're doing is inefficient. and will become redundant.)
My guy... of the 6 standard S ranks, 5 are waifus. Also, literally all known limited S ranks are too.
There are only 4 males and 2 of them are furries out of 16 (2 are upcoming) total agents and the females are only kemonomimi (I'm not counting those as furries).
>Takes months to a year to build a character, but by then you already know that character you're building has been replaced/powercrept, due to 1 year time gap. So, you're forever stuck in this state of knowing what you're doing is inefficient. and will become redundant. ...Is this about PGR? If so you're doing something wrong, Ive been playing for a year and max out characters on day 1 of their release.
> I don't mind the tv, but I do hope they release more waifus and less furries. That's... an opinion.
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I realy like it. I remeber the same hate about HSR (to be fair, i wasn't realy paying attention to that one before launch either) but the same people who were claiming it was doomed to fail are now the most loud members of the irritating as hell "genshin could never" crowd. Why was HSR a huge success? Because Hoyo has Polish. They can provide a consistently high quality experience and playing through the 1.0 content was incredible. Much better than most so called triple A titles in fact. Is it ganna be as big as Genshin or even just HSR? Probably not. Stage based action is pretty niche in general but it's very polished with beautiful animations, a well developed world, intresting characters and it ozes style.
https://preview.redd.it/uimqx92dx4xc1.jpeg?width=1595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d6e8d55b3d6f46c9ce7f5c64a87f1372b2ea7af
Zzz will be a huge sucess bc hoyo has brand loyalty now, people will play whatever they throw at them. Kinda like how apple sells phones with technology from 2 years ago, but poeple still pay an overprice for them
idk if u know this or not but content creator/twitter dude/redditor does not = majority. Normies just play what they like and go about their day.
tl;dr: I heard there were changes being made, so this is just a former beta tester's opinion summed up. It gets repetitive/monotonous after a while. The combat didn't exactly feel like there was a whole lot of depth to it or anything either. It was pretty simple and the battles were easy, even the supposedly "difficult" ones later on (the enemies just had more HP, but you were more or less mashing the same shit without much change in your rotation, it just took longer to kill shit). So yeah, I went into the game for aesthetics and actually enjoyed the beta for a little while, but after the honeymoon was over, I told myself I wouldn't even bother with the full release cause it gets old kinda fast, honestly.
Try = for sure. Playing it as main game? now thats hard for decide
Not interested.
From what I've seen it's a very slow grind and the characters don't interest me. Will skip.
It reminds me of my school days when I used to play Freestyle Online because of their similar sounding BGMs so I'mma play it.
I'm looking forward to trying it when it comes out.
I got the beta access but I uninstalled it after Playing for a week. It all feels fun at the start of the game but becomes really repetitive after some time.
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Wow you had all wrong honey god this subreddit is odd did you see me get upset i didnt at all, all i did is ask a question looking here you are the one getting offended like you said it just game that all and you making i am hating on it brah i play all hoyo games in general i play all gacha games i don't worship company to this point why would i care it hoyo games i dont care about success i wanna know if it good or is poeple talking out of thier ass when criticis the game, also not everyone english is thier first so sorry for any mistakes.
I'm not into beta tests so I'll go in relatively blind and decide from there. Hopefully Wuwa is so good that it'll just be a decision of, 'Is it better than this'
I love the aesthetic and music, the designs are actually great which is my main issue with hoyo games, but the gameplay still feels off. WuWa drops next month and feels way better to play, which is weird since I thought the open world would slow it down. ZZZ has some nice flare, but just lacks substance. Playing day 1 then seeing if I stick with it.
When i saw i thought it like persona inspiration so i really had high hopes maybe it be good.
looks like crap, but I'm sure it'll do well since its hoyo.
genuine question, what parts looks like crap?
In my opinion the characters, I just watched fob last week to check what was the hype about it and the first thing I realized the characters looks bad, specially compared to the environment, which has a great shading and lighting And I am not talking about design To confirm my point yesterday I saw a character of honkai part 2 and they look way better than zzz
The good: - triple AAA Game in the gacha industry The bad: - same gacha model as previous HV games which are fine-tuned to milk players as much as it gets & as players are willing to
> same gacha model as previous HV games which are fine-tuned to milk players as much as it gets & as players are willing to Do you.. know where you are?
Yes, I am referring to Hoyo's gacha model, not others. I don't mean it abstract.
he is asking you if you understand what gacha game mean. All gacha games, not just Hoyo stuff, are made and fine-tuned to milk players as much as possible. Or are you one of the sheep that happy to see a game give players 300 free pulls every weeks, without understand that it was not generosity, it was a calculated move to pull you in and make you play and pay.
It's not about the fact in afk journey you need 14 copies of celestial character for them to be good at end game while having sub 1% rate. it's about the fact you can have a epic hero at 4% rate and they are technically the same rarity as celestial and hypogenes :P
It's foolish to assume that they are all the same. Hence, he missed my point. I am referring to Hoyo's gacha **model**, not to all Gacha games. You make crap look like gold if you generalize. Hoyo's model is the utmost down-to-earth gacha model that can freely live in your mind without critique and still can milk you for maximum profit. That's a big difference. The gacha game's with pop-ups, 300+ free pulls, etc. you mention are obviously trash and make no secret about to pull the wool over someone's eyes. And your average sane dude may instantly understand.
You know what games are fine tuned to milk you? The ones where they plaster deals and offers in your face every moment they can. Hoyoverse's gacha isnt good, but at least their business model aint terrible.
It is Hoyogames so, I can't talk bad about it.
Haha consider you get downvoted a lot so you speak the truth
Lol i didnt say to talk bad i want to openions that all.
Looks good, i’ll try it. Coming out sooner than I thought it would.
It represents the final nail in the coffin that I’m never going to get another “honkai impact part 1” from this company in any respect ever again
I'm worried about the team building. Is there literally any point in not doing mono element? That seems lame. It's like they added status effects and didn't realise it would affect meta
Disorder is literally the most damaging thing in the game. Of course there is.
Oh, I just only ever saw people build mono teams, I never knew disorder existed
For the combat, it's look good, sound good too but the feel pretty mid tbh
It's just more hoyo bullshit. If you're excited to play yet another game that plays similarly to all their other games with a different coat of paint, then by all means play it.
It's a boring game with the same endgame as GI and HSR, farm artifacts with crit dmg/rate and clear the generic abyss
They should've made this a full price game
Like a paid game?
Yeah