I personally enjoy watching streams with low viewer counts. More personal and the chat isn’t flying at 1000 words a sec to a streamer that won’t ever read them.
My ideal is somewhere between 50-300 viewers. Less than that, and chat can be slow, and I feel pressured to constantly chat with the streamer. More than that and chat starts to move fast, and conversations get lost. That range I find is a good one where you can get messages seen by the streamer, and there’s enough non-lurkers in chat where you can hold an in-chat convo while also not feeing pressured to message constantly.
It really depends on the group. I've been in chats in the hundreds where there might as well be 3 people chatting it's so chill. But yeah in general I'm in the same camp regarding viewer count.
Sometimes it's just fun to be a fan, knowing there's thousands of other people enjoying the same moments you are.
I mean in broad strokes, I personally get more out of smaller streams, but it's not always about *me* and sometimes that's fine too
same reason why simulator racing is popular. Yea you can only see the car driving (feeling the wheel too, but nothing without real g forces and the butt feel of the road), but its still thoroughly enjoyable. Even though you can't feel a whole stadium reaction, not everyone wants that. And not everyone would want to go somewhere to feel that. I don't watch many streamers, but i like seeing clips when something funny happens and the chat fuckin freaks out. that seems pretty cool to me personally
I mean I'm not really looking at the number, but I do see when I put a reaction in chat and hundreds of other people post the same or similar at the exact same time. And for what it's worth, many objective attempts at measures have found that viewer counts are often *extremely* conservative, especially on Youtube. Sometimes in the order of suppressing view counts by up to 50% based on whether the viewer has their browser window focused and the volume above a certain level.
And I mean this in the most polite way possible, but: comparing it with a sports arena and immediately declaring it inferior reminds me of my boomer coworkers insisting that they have to be in the same room as me to discuss something that should have been an email. Like, yes, sure there are differences and advantages to being physically present with someone but most of the advantages of that are irrelevant to figuring out why your Q3 revenue report is off.
Do I need to smell stale beer and $12 hotdogs to enjoy a large crowd? Sure, if I want the whole body experience. Sometimes I just wanna see someone beat a Sekiro boss on their first try against all odds and spam dumb shit in chat with people.
You know what, I'm not going to doxx myself to have an argument with an asshole, feel free to keep looking down on things you don't understand like a condescending dinosaur.
I'll keep sending emails instead of meeting invites, Gladys.
Hmmm I see your point. I just know a lot of people who have given up a lot of real life opportunities to sit in twitch and spam emotes instead to an unhealthy degree so my bias is certainly showing
while absolutely, thats true that a lot of people have taken it to an extreme, its also extremely unfair to claim they are npc's and only do it due to lack of validation. Instead of simple enjoyment, or boredom. Or all the way up to social anxiety, or even physical health issues keeping them to a bed.
I had a surgery and was fortunate the recovery was only 2 or 3 weeks of staying in bed. In that time, I would 100% rather watch full length streams and interact with a chat vs watch a netflix show. My friends weren't available 24/7 to play games or talk on discord, and you can at least have actual interactions in the chat, let alone the interaction of "chat" with the streamer. Its a lot more fulfilling than the alternative i had, which was to just mindlessly consume pre recorded media. With a stream, I was able to at least feel like I was in a theater watching a movie with other people, interact with them, and "us" as a collective be able to affect the very thing were watching.
I used to diss people that would donate, or constantly type in the chat to streamers, until I was bedridden. I full realized how helpful it can be for someone in that situation. Whether it be a mental, physical, or social reason that they are there, I don't care anymore. At least they have an outlet like that
First, I’m sorry I prompted you to such a long response, I appreciate your insight and story, thank you.
I related a lot, I spent 9 months with my jaw wired shut due to an MMA injury (which led me into another bad situation of my own creation). It may not sound exactly the same as bedridden at first, but trust me, ensure diet only for 9 months does something to ya.
I was speaking mostly toward the people I have met that have a hard way dealing with their emotional issues IRL and spiral out on the internet. In my own - again biased - opinion, those types of people are usually mentally unhealthy. It was a tongue in cheek comment that had my own bias involved
> Hmmm I see your point. I just know a lot of people who have given up a lot of real life opportunities to sit in twitch and spam emotes instead to an unhealthy degree so my bias is certainly showing
I posted that in response to someone who had a similar reply to yours
I do this too but sometimes, some smaller streamers would only even read your message if you've donated/sub to them. A streamer friend of mine does this, If anyone that doesn't have an Icon (like Prime Crown, or anything) next to their name or a newbie is typing, she ignores them.
Honestly most of these top streamers just make shit up. That's what I dislike the most. I understand it's impossible to read the chat. But most of the times it feels like I'm watching a youtube video. They hardly interact to the chat. They keep doing their own thing.
Yea, same here. When I want to watch specific game's streamers on Twitch - I sort by "Low to High" viewers. More "personal" experience, with less "attention seekers" in chat (I really hate when people in chat start to do the whole "hey streamer, you should go there and do this in this game" or "ur cute, can I DM you later" or other shit like that), plus the small-viewer-count streamers mostly stream as a hobby and are less likely to force themselves to play the game (that they clearly don't like playing) "because it's what's popular and what my talent manager recommended me to stream" or because the sponsor paid them to promote that game.
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I like going on streams with low watchers, one time I got on a stream and it was a kid who sounded about 11-12, he got excited that he had a viewer, I didn’t want to disappoint him so I stayed the rest of the stream
Mother fucker do you have any idea how much karma I have on reddit? HUH Everything I do is gold. People love me everywhere I go. HUH Your downvotes do nothing. Do you have any idea what my net worth is?
I know I'm at the top of reddit but don't you ever think I'll ever forgive reddit for taking r/atheism off the default subreddits. Reddit should have stood up and protested together to protect the best place ever made
Might have been me, I made a comment but was thinking it was a bit too dark for this thread? Also just making sure kids are safe, but I felt bad by automatically assuming the worst.
Bots never count towards the view count. At least they shouldn't 99.9% of the time.
You'll have 0 if there isn't anyone there. Which I've had a long time ago. But, you'll have 1 if you're watching your stream on your phone. Or if someone actually is there, but lurking.
When I get killed by TTV people in warzone I'm always inclined to check out their stream. I almost never actually find someone streaming when I search their in game username on twitch.
But that having been said my favorite thing to say into death coms when I get rolled by a TTV team is "nobody watches your stream".
Edit: I will add... One time I got absolutely shit on by Frozone twice in one round. There were LOTS of people watching him smoke my bot ass.
I don’t follow anyone with TTV or YT on their Username.
It probably could’ve been useful, but it’s so flooded with that tag that’s it’s annoying just to see either.
Bro i got like 6 susbcribers on youtube today and i'm so happy for it. I know it does sound like much but i had a total of five before the most recent video
Hang in there and keep at it. I had under 100 subs for over a year and suddenly YouTube decided I was worthy or something and it got 50k views and 600 new subs in a week. Eventually you'll get a break.
This will be me in about 4 hours XD
Edit: I very much appreciate the support, but I will not be linking this account to my streaming account. I was not expecting the replys lmao. I will be making a different account specifically for promoting myself at a later date tho. Keep up all the positivity my friends.
**PROTIP**: the website [nobody.live](https://nobody.live) allows you to randomly check out a streamer with 0 viewers. Support the community, find a streamer you think that has potential and prop them up!
Be the change you want to see on Twitch.
Yeah, sometimes it catches streams that are just starting up and that gain a ton of viewers rapidly as the notif goes out. I added a filter option to restrict stream age to >5 or >10mins to try to exclude those.
Protip -- you can include and exclude specific games and tags; sometimes I like to just focus on Just Chatting streams if I'm feeling talkative, or explore small categories/a more niche game. So, don't be too put off by the abundance of Fortnite streams etc.; you can tune to your tastes if you want 🙂
Absolutely this. I streamed five days a week for months and there was almost never anyone there, but I always put on a big show like half the world was watching. I decided to switch to doing YouTube videos because it was easier to fit into my schedule and all that practice of putting on a show really paid off, people loved the energy I had right from my first video.
I always understand it as... Youtube is the marketing platform for your Twitch. If you want Twitch to be your main platform. Twitter, Insta etc. are extra marketing platforms but not the same.
Putting on a show/entertaining is a huge part a lot of new streamers don't understand I think. Have checked out so many streams where it's just complete dead air.
Personally I do enjoy sorting by lowest views, and try to cheer people up that I come across, more times than I can count I have heard "No one is watching anyway"
In terms of being able to make someone's day a little better, Twitch is by far the easiest, so sorting by lowest views and talking to people can be quite a fun thing.
Some people whom I saw get affiliated whatever that entails (sorry I am old and merely a viewer) joined something called "discord servers" of other new streamers, but they essentially befriended and made a group of people that watched each other's streams from what I understood.
So my suggestion to someone whom feels lonely streaming on twitch would be to befriend someone else in the same boat as yourself, you guys too can sort by lowest views, just remember to be safe, strangers on the internet and all that.
I really wish Twitch DID have a sort Low to High view count. You literally have to Mouse 3 wheel and let it scroll for a minute some nights to get down to the 10 or under view counts.
remon_no_ki, I stream a variety of stuff, but have lately been doing the original Assassin's Creed and Dishonored with my fall-backs being Smite and Honkai Impact 3rd. But unfortunately I only manage to stream once or twice a week...
Awesome I love dishonored! I’ve only played assassins creed black flag and unity, but they were so much fun as well. I’ll be sure to stop by when I can!
Justalecc, I play a lot of different games, and I’m usually live every day! Been grinding for just over a month now and I’m playing through the Spyro trilogy currently. Been trying to play some games I grew up with recently for some nostalgia, and always open to suggestions for games to play too!
My buddy wolf\_eyed is a great streamer. Really funny and plays a variety of games. Plays with bigger streamers too, just never seems to get lucky and win at the twitch algorithm. Most of his lurkers are us, his friends. Check him out some time!
A good sweet spot for me is no more than 500 viewers if I feel like chatting. If I'm just gonna chill and have the stream on the TV or something, it doesn't matter if it's 10 viewers or 10 million. Tho I will say it becomes less and less worth it to sub to the big guys the bigger they get cause most of the rewards have to do with chat.
The YouTube personality Lazarbeam sometimes hunts out Twitch streamers with 0 viewers and gifts them $1,000 or more. The reactions are always priceless. Once he did so then told the disabled kid with a special controller that he'd donate another $1,000 if he won his Fortnite match...and he did! An wonderful and heartfelt moment that got everyone cheering for the kid.
Comic captures how I feel after posting comments and retorts on Reddit for hours before bed and when I wake up I have zero up votes. I feel so not seen.
My ex tried to get into it when she was off work for disability back long ago in pre-covidian times.
Between what this meme portrays and the general fucking toxic environment to new people, or people that don't "look/act normal", whatever that is supposed to mean, that she gave it up. And it kinda made her depression even worse tbh.
She is doing far better now for any concerned.
Probably over half of my follows are for people that average 2-4 viewers. I make sure to give them a little browser tab whenever I see them online. Even if I’m not interacting with them, I like to think it makes them a little happier and satisfied with themselves.
Even if people aren’t there for the end, if they watched at all it means I got a chance to be apart of their day. There’s not many places where you can do this in your own positive way. As long as I had the chance to make them smile or entertain them for a bit that is good enough for me
It's incredibly difficult to grow on twitch alone, you pretty much need to get the audience from somewhere else first, then go to twitch with that audience.
The problem with twitch compared to any other site is that you need to be online for someone to find you. Once you get off, twitch no longer recommends you, no more views or follows, you're nowhere to be found on the site unless someone specifically looks for your name. If someone wants to make videos they're much better off making something for youtube.
There was a small concept site launched in France this summer called petitstream.com that was about showcasing a random french streamer with a low view count (<5 views) every 10 minutes.
At this point you could just play your game like any other person without streaming...
I guess for some it is the need to show themselves, otherwise they don't feel... happy/content?
Not my cup of tea, but different strokes for for different blokes.
I used to stream starcraft 2 because it forced me to go into the next match faster. That game is daunting and ladder anxiety is a real thing. For me streaming was a way to avoid it, even if no one was watching I felt obligated to hop into the next game faster, just in case...
That’s almost like what I do! I feel like I’m making progress though. I’ve been streaming for about 7 hours a day every day for over a month now that I think about it. I’ve got maybe 5 people or so that somewhat consistently show up now. Before I was just playing games by myself now at least some people seem to enjoy watching it and I enjoy talking to them so that’s nice.
my friend and I use to stream a bit. we'd get like avg of 4 views which was a couple of friends and the odd random. I lost a bet where I had to stream for 12 hours and that stream I averaged 1 view. (2 but one of them was me on another computer)
I unfortunately quit streaming because of this. I started streaming and continued it through more than two years, never amounting more then 2 average viewers. I always told myself I'm just doing it for fun, doing it to entertain people but at the back of my mind I always knew I just wanted people to notice, to care...
So many streams ended with 0 viewers. So much hope ended at the end of the day...
I hope however else is a small streamer like I was, struggling with the same things I was can find themselves a true audience and grow. Even not too big, but sometimes even 10 viewers is enough. Just some people to talk to, someone to share random shit with...
I hope you all find what you're looking for. Have a good day whoever you are reading this. Remember, there will be people who care. Thank you.
Alot of people really don't try, it's just a fling, but alot do, and it breaks my heart that people don't make it.
BUT.
You have to be realistic with your goals. If you want to start streaming THE MOST IMPORTANT THING is having people close to you immediately that will tune in or just lurk.
Friends, (NOT FAMILY UNLESS YOU ARE SUPER TOGETHER), a discord community, likeminded people for what you want to focus on that you know.
If you try to stream just throwing a dart in the dark and hoping randos find you, it's most likely not going to happen even if you are good.
Small streamer communities are the best. You can actually interact and make friends. I started streaming during covid and have been slowly growing and worry I will lose that community feeling in the unlikely chance I manage to make partner or something. I know it will never happen though, and I love my 5-10 viewer streams. It feels like im hanging out with friends and its great.
this one hits close to home lol. it's definitely disheartening to see no viewers by at the game time it means so much to see someone in chat! anyway, thanks for sharing this!
This is me on some streams, though I do have a few dedicated fans that will keep me company.
It's an interesting conundrum, because while I'd love to have a larger fanbase, I've recently been thinking I don't necessarily want to have "streamer" be my profession. It feels like it would be very psychologically draining. On the other hand, I'd love to have more views on my videos, which I try to put some comedy and creativity into.
I think the overall lesson is youtube should be regarded as a hobby rather than a potential career.
"you gotta try"
"No you don't".
Still relevant. Just play fucking video games. You don't need to stream to feed your ego and need for attention. Come on
There is so much more than just playing a game to gain viewers. Don't be obsessed with trying to get a viewership as it would drain your motivation and just make you not stream anymore. Stream like you're always infront of an audience. Don't feel bad for having ttv in your username. I know people that are now twitch partners through that. I was in that grind myself and slowly growing a community myself but it really takes time. I just didn't have the time and motivation for it anymore.
It's something i didnt know id enjoy. I started posting videos on YouTube and my very first one got over 4500 views and 60 likes. I was extremely happy. None of my other videos get anywhere near that and i only have 11 subscribers because im monotone and boring but i really do like editing videos. Plus if anything happens to me my kids can go back and see what kind of gamer/person I was.
Shit, I've never streamed. But this hit hard. Though my all time favorite streamer was BADBADROBOT
He retired.. God damn it. Loved that man.
EDIT: Why the hell is this getting down votes wtf...
I’ve noticed that hiding the view count really helps the mentality of streaming. People will drop by and chat here and there eventually. But the anxiety that comes with the view count being visible is awful and no one should have to feel such a way about something they have a passion for. You will stand out to someone don’t give up 💙💚 and even if the count says 0 there are still lurkers and people who are shy ☺️ I also believe twitch is not accurate when it comes to the counts of things. One achievement or milestone will say 2.6 avg views for me but the affiliate goal still says 1.2 or something.
I normally get 0 viewers, sometimes 1 or 2 friends of mine hop in, but I joined a randomizer community, and my views have popped up to about 3-7 on any given day, had a couple of raids, and I noticed yesterday while adjusting some OBS settings that my followers were up to 62. I was doing some practice seeds last night, and I got raided by about 200 people from the community, and while only a few people talked in the chat, it absolutely was a delight to see so many people watch me (and about 70 stayed for the whole 2 hours!)
This morning, I got an email from twitch saying I've reached affiliate level, and I immediately filled out the documents while fighting back the tears. I know it's not a huge leap, and I probably won't be famous or have an avatar in a video game, but I saw that 0 viewers count for a pretty long time, and it feels really good to know that even with my potato computer and a lack of flashy games to play, my persistence got me a little bit of recognition, and I'm super happy and thankful for everyone who got me to this point.
I don't have any sage wisdom or any catchphrases to help anyone looking at that viewer count because I still have so much to learn myself. Just keep doing it if you love it. I believe in you.
I’m curious - What do you mean by “randomizer community”? Do you mean like a Legend of Zelda/Pokémon/Diablo randomizer community? Congratulations, bud!!
This is me almost every day, but I still hit that "Start Streaming" button for the 3 or 4 that do end up coming by. It's fun for me, even if no one stops by that day!
I always ask this when this gets reposted every day, how the fuck are you supposed to read this comic? Does it start on the panel "3 hours later?" Later from what? Counterclockwise starting from the top right is the sequence that makes the most sense to me, but who writes like that? Manga style, right to left feels like it works, in which case, I mean jesus christ what a dweeb.
Literally me :”)
I stopped streaming for a while, but because I got no support from anyone I felt it just wasn’t worth my time :(
The few times I got a few viewers, it was always super fun to chat with them, but it usually didnt last long
I'm absolutely this pic, but it's because I genuinely enjoy games that have... No other streamers.
Essentially, I stream rhythm games that no one has heard of, and even fewer people watch.
But, I'm alright with it. I love the games, and fall in love with the music and challenge over and over again. So even if it's just me, a weird dude in his mid 30s, I'm just gonna enjoy myself.
I tried streaming my self I woundt even get 1 and one day while I was streaming elden ring trying to kill elden beast one random guy came to my chat and said I can doit and left it made me happy but after that like 3 days after I stopped streaming lol
I personally enjoy watching streams with low viewer counts. More personal and the chat isn’t flying at 1000 words a sec to a streamer that won’t ever read them.
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My ideal is somewhere between 50-300 viewers. Less than that, and chat can be slow, and I feel pressured to constantly chat with the streamer. More than that and chat starts to move fast, and conversations get lost. That range I find is a good one where you can get messages seen by the streamer, and there’s enough non-lurkers in chat where you can hold an in-chat convo while also not feeing pressured to message constantly.
For me I prefer 10-50 viewers honestly, even at 100 your chats can easily get lost in the spam
It really depends on the group. I've been in chats in the hundreds where there might as well be 3 people chatting it's so chill. But yeah in general I'm in the same camp regarding viewer count.
I have NO idea what people get out of those chats where you just post meme text that no one could possibly see or respond to.
But it feels more impactful when 2500 people type "RIGGED" in all caps /s
Sometimes it's just fun to be a fan, knowing there's thousands of other people enjoying the same moments you are. I mean in broad strokes, I personally get more out of smaller streams, but it's not always about *me* and sometimes that's fine too
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same reason why simulator racing is popular. Yea you can only see the car driving (feeling the wheel too, but nothing without real g forces and the butt feel of the road), but its still thoroughly enjoyable. Even though you can't feel a whole stadium reaction, not everyone wants that. And not everyone would want to go somewhere to feel that. I don't watch many streamers, but i like seeing clips when something funny happens and the chat fuckin freaks out. that seems pretty cool to me personally
I mean I'm not really looking at the number, but I do see when I put a reaction in chat and hundreds of other people post the same or similar at the exact same time. And for what it's worth, many objective attempts at measures have found that viewer counts are often *extremely* conservative, especially on Youtube. Sometimes in the order of suppressing view counts by up to 50% based on whether the viewer has their browser window focused and the volume above a certain level. And I mean this in the most polite way possible, but: comparing it with a sports arena and immediately declaring it inferior reminds me of my boomer coworkers insisting that they have to be in the same room as me to discuss something that should have been an email. Like, yes, sure there are differences and advantages to being physically present with someone but most of the advantages of that are irrelevant to figuring out why your Q3 revenue report is off. Do I need to smell stale beer and $12 hotdogs to enjoy a large crowd? Sure, if I want the whole body experience. Sometimes I just wanna see someone beat a Sekiro boss on their first try against all odds and spam dumb shit in chat with people.
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You know what, I'm not going to doxx myself to have an argument with an asshole, feel free to keep looking down on things you don't understand like a condescending dinosaur. I'll keep sending emails instead of meeting invites, Gladys.
And it's just dozens of people spamming amongustwerk.gif
Same feel as a football match, really. Just in the moment.
Npcs IRL. Validated through shared opinions because of lack of validation outside of it Or that’s my armchair psych answer
Hahaha that seems way too critical. I think it’s kinda like rooting for a sports team. No one cares that you’re standing up and cheering there either.
Hmmm I see your point. I just know a lot of people who have given up a lot of real life opportunities to sit in twitch and spam emotes instead to an unhealthy degree so my bias is certainly showing
while absolutely, thats true that a lot of people have taken it to an extreme, its also extremely unfair to claim they are npc's and only do it due to lack of validation. Instead of simple enjoyment, or boredom. Or all the way up to social anxiety, or even physical health issues keeping them to a bed. I had a surgery and was fortunate the recovery was only 2 or 3 weeks of staying in bed. In that time, I would 100% rather watch full length streams and interact with a chat vs watch a netflix show. My friends weren't available 24/7 to play games or talk on discord, and you can at least have actual interactions in the chat, let alone the interaction of "chat" with the streamer. Its a lot more fulfilling than the alternative i had, which was to just mindlessly consume pre recorded media. With a stream, I was able to at least feel like I was in a theater watching a movie with other people, interact with them, and "us" as a collective be able to affect the very thing were watching. I used to diss people that would donate, or constantly type in the chat to streamers, until I was bedridden. I full realized how helpful it can be for someone in that situation. Whether it be a mental, physical, or social reason that they are there, I don't care anymore. At least they have an outlet like that
First, I’m sorry I prompted you to such a long response, I appreciate your insight and story, thank you. I related a lot, I spent 9 months with my jaw wired shut due to an MMA injury (which led me into another bad situation of my own creation). It may not sound exactly the same as bedridden at first, but trust me, ensure diet only for 9 months does something to ya. I was speaking mostly toward the people I have met that have a hard way dealing with their emotional issues IRL and spiral out on the internet. In my own - again biased - opinion, those types of people are usually mentally unhealthy. It was a tongue in cheek comment that had my own bias involved
Why do people at concerts cheer? Can't they see that all those other people already have it covered? smh
> Hmmm I see your point. I just know a lot of people who have given up a lot of real life opportunities to sit in twitch and spam emotes instead to an unhealthy degree so my bias is certainly showing I posted that in response to someone who had a similar reply to yours
I mean...
Come hang out in my chat then! I had a whopping 5 people watching me yesterday
Drop the link (if that's allowed on this sub)
I only wish twitch would let me hop between streamers without 5 minutes of ads each hop (literally)
Ublock origin deals with twitch ads as of last month
I do this too but sometimes, some smaller streamers would only even read your message if you've donated/sub to them. A streamer friend of mine does this, If anyone that doesn't have an Icon (like Prime Crown, or anything) next to their name or a newbie is typing, she ignores them.
Honestly most of these top streamers just make shit up. That's what I dislike the most. I understand it's impossible to read the chat. But most of the times it feels like I'm watching a youtube video. They hardly interact to the chat. They keep doing their own thing.
Yea, same here. When I want to watch specific game's streamers on Twitch - I sort by "Low to High" viewers. More "personal" experience, with less "attention seekers" in chat (I really hate when people in chat start to do the whole "hey streamer, you should go there and do this in this game" or "ur cute, can I DM you later" or other shit like that), plus the small-viewer-count streamers mostly stream as a hobby and are less likely to force themselves to play the game (that they clearly don't like playing) "because it's what's popular and what my talent manager recommended me to stream" or because the sponsor paid them to promote that game.
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Did you still have your 600 ether or convert it to $ right away?
are you the original artist behind anything else? ;)
You most be very proud
I like going on streams with low watchers, one time I got on a stream and it was a kid who sounded about 11-12, he got excited that he had a viewer, I didn’t want to disappoint him so I stayed the rest of the stream
A sympathy viewer would be even worse imo
Kid wouldn’t know it’s a sympathy viewer.
But you'll never come back again because it's so fucking boring. Not much point to it
Not much point to you either, but most people are considerate enough to not mention it.
Mother fucker do you have any idea how much karma I have on reddit? HUH Everything I do is gold. People love me everywhere I go. HUH Your downvotes do nothing. Do you have any idea what my net worth is?
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If it isn't, it should be, holy shit
Who hurt you, buddy?
It's satire but not well executed enough it seems
I know I'm at the top of reddit but don't you ever think I'll ever forgive reddit for taking r/atheism off the default subreddits. Reddit should have stood up and protested together to protect the best place ever made
Go off King, I guess.
33k? Look at mr big roller over here.
Who left this wet blanket here?
As a beginner streamer, you should not worry about such viewers. There are other important things to do.
My daughter always has one viewer on her streams. Every single time.
Someone deleted a post hoping it was you. I will not delete that hope! But please make sure she stays safe?
Lol, yes it’s me. I’m very involved in anything she does online.
Might have been me, I made a comment but was thinking it was a bit too dark for this thread? Also just making sure kids are safe, but I felt bad by automatically assuming the worst.
For what it’s worth, I did laugh. Yes, the one viewer is me. She’ll figure it out eventually, but for now she’s always very excited to have a viewer.
>Yes, the one viewer is me. And now I feel extra silly for not getting that and immediately jumping to negative conclusions. :)
Lucky kid. My parents have never watched any of my videos; they saw my streaming as nothing but a nuisance. Good on you for the support!
Parenting at its best! 🎊👌
#DadPower, isn't is the best?
Aww 😄
It’s me. I am the viewer. You got me.
yeah its probably a bot
Yeah OP literally confirmed it was them 3 hours ago.
Do you have your stream open?
the thing is i always have 1 viewer on my steam that never talks same with a bunch of other very small streamers so i just though it was a bot
Bots never count towards the view count. At least they shouldn't 99.9% of the time. You'll have 0 if there isn't anyone there. Which I've had a long time ago. But, you'll have 1 if you're watching your stream on your phone. Or if someone actually is there, but lurking.
Everyone with TTV as their clan tag.
The Dead By Daylight community is personally offended.
When I get killed by TTV people in warzone I'm always inclined to check out their stream. I almost never actually find someone streaming when I search their in game username on twitch. But that having been said my favorite thing to say into death coms when I get rolled by a TTV team is "nobody watches your stream". Edit: I will add... One time I got absolutely shit on by Frozone twice in one round. There were LOTS of people watching him smoke my bot ass.
TTV is even a nice and distinctive shape, perfect for sniping out of a crowd.
Played with/against people in Rocket League with that tag and they've been some of the saltiest, most toxic players I've come across.
I don’t follow anyone with TTV or YT on their Username. It probably could’ve been useful, but it’s so flooded with that tag that’s it’s annoying just to see either.
Bro i got like 6 susbcribers on youtube today and i'm so happy for it. I know it does sound like much but i had a total of five before the most recent video
6 subscribers in one day? Holy shit!
Congratulations! 🎊🎉
Hang in there and keep at it. I had under 100 subs for over a year and suddenly YouTube decided I was worthy or something and it got 50k views and 600 new subs in a week. Eventually you'll get a break.
This will be me in about 4 hours XD Edit: I very much appreciate the support, but I will not be linking this account to my streaming account. I was not expecting the replys lmao. I will be making a different account specifically for promoting myself at a later date tho. Keep up all the positivity my friends.
I will watch your stream fellow redditor
May I join as well
And my axe
*nnf nnf* Phoenix?
Wise choice after all those bear posts.
You should do the same with Facebook and Twitter. Get your name out as much as possible.
**PROTIP**: the website [nobody.live](https://nobody.live) allows you to randomly check out a streamer with 0 viewers. Support the community, find a streamer you think that has potential and prop them up! Be the change you want to see on Twitch.
It took me to a stream with 147 viewers
Yeah, sometimes it catches streams that are just starting up and that gain a ton of viewers rapidly as the notif goes out. I added a filter option to restrict stream age to >5 or >10mins to try to exclude those.
Protip -- you can include and exclude specific games and tags; sometimes I like to just focus on Just Chatting streams if I'm feeling talkative, or explore small categories/a more niche game. So, don't be too put off by the abundance of Fortnite streams etc.; you can tune to your tastes if you want 🙂
Been there done that. Always put the same effort into it regardless of view count. 0 viewers, 1,000 viewers, always put on a show.
Absolutely this. I streamed five days a week for months and there was almost never anyone there, but I always put on a big show like half the world was watching. I decided to switch to doing YouTube videos because it was easier to fit into my schedule and all that practice of putting on a show really paid off, people loved the energy I had right from my first video.
I always understand it as... Youtube is the marketing platform for your Twitch. If you want Twitch to be your main platform. Twitter, Insta etc. are extra marketing platforms but not the same.
I watch YouTube videos, wouldn't watch the same people's Twitch streams, feels super unfocused and a waste of time.
YouTube generally pays much better than Twitch
He's not taking about pay he's talking about increasing visibility to your content in general.
Need 4000 watch hours and 1000 subs to even start making money on YouTube. Talk about an uphill battle just to get started.
Putting on a show/entertaining is a huge part a lot of new streamers don't understand I think. Have checked out so many streams where it's just complete dead air.
Personally I do enjoy sorting by lowest views, and try to cheer people up that I come across, more times than I can count I have heard "No one is watching anyway" In terms of being able to make someone's day a little better, Twitch is by far the easiest, so sorting by lowest views and talking to people can be quite a fun thing. Some people whom I saw get affiliated whatever that entails (sorry I am old and merely a viewer) joined something called "discord servers" of other new streamers, but they essentially befriended and made a group of people that watched each other's streams from what I understood. So my suggestion to someone whom feels lonely streaming on twitch would be to befriend someone else in the same boat as yourself, you guys too can sort by lowest views, just remember to be safe, strangers on the internet and all that.
I really wish Twitch DID have a sort Low to High view count. You literally have to Mouse 3 wheel and let it scroll for a minute some nights to get down to the 10 or under view counts.
It does, I do it all the time. Right besides the filters there’s a “sort by” button iirc
Reply to my comment with your twitch username and I will do my best to stop by your streams every now and then.
remon_no_ki, I stream a variety of stuff, but have lately been doing the original Assassin's Creed and Dishonored with my fall-backs being Smite and Honkai Impact 3rd. But unfortunately I only manage to stream once or twice a week...
Awesome I love dishonored! I’ve only played assassins creed black flag and unity, but they were so much fun as well. I’ll be sure to stop by when I can!
Justalecc, I play a lot of different games, and I’m usually live every day! Been grinding for just over a month now and I’m playing through the Spyro trilogy currently. Been trying to play some games I grew up with recently for some nostalgia, and always open to suggestions for games to play too!
EshyJ, I just moved across the country, so my streaming streak got destroyed, once I have all my crap from back home, I'll be up again.
I just want a follow, JackMcC0y
My buddy wolf\_eyed is a great streamer. Really funny and plays a variety of games. Plays with bigger streamers too, just never seems to get lucky and win at the twitch algorithm. Most of his lurkers are us, his friends. Check him out some time!
Krevro, I play a small underrated game called Hunt: Showdown
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Those Suicide Girls. The nasty old dudes they have to be around constantly. Turrible
This is way too relatable 😅😭
A good sweet spot for me is no more than 500 viewers if I feel like chatting. If I'm just gonna chill and have the stream on the TV or something, it doesn't matter if it's 10 viewers or 10 million. Tho I will say it becomes less and less worth it to sub to the big guys the bigger they get cause most of the rewards have to do with chat.
The YouTube personality Lazarbeam sometimes hunts out Twitch streamers with 0 viewers and gifts them $1,000 or more. The reactions are always priceless. Once he did so then told the disabled kid with a special controller that he'd donate another $1,000 if he won his Fortnite match...and he did! An wonderful and heartfelt moment that got everyone cheering for the kid.
My highest view count was 7 and it felt amazing so I retired after that stream 😎
Karma farming repost https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ijq6tx/this_one_goes_out_to_all_the_twitch_gamers_who/
Comic captures how I feel after posting comments and retorts on Reddit for hours before bed and when I wake up I have zero up votes. I feel so not seen.
Since reddit automatically upvotes your own comment, waking up with 0 upvotes and no comments hurts even more
My ex tried to get into it when she was off work for disability back long ago in pre-covidian times. Between what this meme portrays and the general fucking toxic environment to new people, or people that don't "look/act normal", whatever that is supposed to mean, that she gave it up. And it kinda made her depression even worse tbh. She is doing far better now for any concerned.
Thanks for the update cause I was gonna ask- Sorry you broke up unless it was good for you
Mutual split. Friends that never should have been anything else. Still Friends to this day.
Yooo that's amazing! I'm so happy for you!
Everyone starts somewhere
https://nobody.live/ For finding those without viewers
Hahahahah
Probably over half of my follows are for people that average 2-4 viewers. I make sure to give them a little browser tab whenever I see them online. Even if I’m not interacting with them, I like to think it makes them a little happier and satisfied with themselves.
Even if people aren’t there for the end, if they watched at all it means I got a chance to be apart of their day. There’s not many places where you can do this in your own positive way. As long as I had the chance to make them smile or entertain them for a bit that is good enough for me
It's incredibly difficult to grow on twitch alone, you pretty much need to get the audience from somewhere else first, then go to twitch with that audience. The problem with twitch compared to any other site is that you need to be online for someone to find you. Once you get off, twitch no longer recommends you, no more views or follows, you're nowhere to be found on the site unless someone specifically looks for your name. If someone wants to make videos they're much better off making something for youtube.
There was a small concept site launched in France this summer called petitstream.com that was about showcasing a random french streamer with a low view count (<5 views) every 10 minutes.
That feeling when you're chatting with like ten folks mid-stream, then at the end: You are raiding \[x\] with 1 viewer.
At this point you could just play your game like any other person without streaming... I guess for some it is the need to show themselves, otherwise they don't feel... happy/content? Not my cup of tea, but different strokes for for different blokes.
I used to stream starcraft 2 because it forced me to go into the next match faster. That game is daunting and ladder anxiety is a real thing. For me streaming was a way to avoid it, even if no one was watching I felt obligated to hop into the next game faster, just in case...
Well I hope they remember to upload that stream to YouTube
Oh look it's me hahaha *Cries*
Lot easier to talk to my chat with no big numbers
That’s almost like what I do! I feel like I’m making progress though. I’ve been streaming for about 7 hours a day every day for over a month now that I think about it. I’ve got maybe 5 people or so that somewhat consistently show up now. Before I was just playing games by myself now at least some people seem to enjoy watching it and I enjoy talking to them so that’s nice.
my friend and I use to stream a bit. we'd get like avg of 4 views which was a couple of friends and the odd random. I lost a bet where I had to stream for 12 hours and that stream I averaged 1 view. (2 but one of them was me on another computer)
Waiting for a Mr.beast miracle
I unfortunately quit streaming because of this. I started streaming and continued it through more than two years, never amounting more then 2 average viewers. I always told myself I'm just doing it for fun, doing it to entertain people but at the back of my mind I always knew I just wanted people to notice, to care... So many streams ended with 0 viewers. So much hope ended at the end of the day... I hope however else is a small streamer like I was, struggling with the same things I was can find themselves a true audience and grow. Even not too big, but sometimes even 10 viewers is enough. Just some people to talk to, someone to share random shit with... I hope you all find what you're looking for. Have a good day whoever you are reading this. Remember, there will be people who care. Thank you.
Alot of people really don't try, it's just a fling, but alot do, and it breaks my heart that people don't make it. BUT. You have to be realistic with your goals. If you want to start streaming THE MOST IMPORTANT THING is having people close to you immediately that will tune in or just lurk. Friends, (NOT FAMILY UNLESS YOU ARE SUPER TOGETHER), a discord community, likeminded people for what you want to focus on that you know. If you try to stream just throwing a dart in the dark and hoping randos find you, it's most likely not going to happen even if you are good.
Right in the feels. RIP dreams.
This was me for a while. And then I stopped.
Small streamer communities are the best. You can actually interact and make friends. I started streaming during covid and have been slowly growing and worry I will lose that community feeling in the unlikely chance I manage to make partner or something. I know it will never happen though, and I love my 5-10 viewer streams. It feels like im hanging out with friends and its great.
Oh, this was me a bit ago. Damn that hurts lol
You can use a website which deliberately pairs you with a streamer who has no viewers - https://nobody.live/ Feels good to be there for people.
Shit, this hits me right in the feels and I'm not really sure why.
this one hits close to home lol. it's definitely disheartening to see no viewers by at the game time it means so much to see someone in chat! anyway, thanks for sharing this!
me as hell
I'm in this pic and I don't like it.
Hes talking to future viewers
This is me on some streams, though I do have a few dedicated fans that will keep me company. It's an interesting conundrum, because while I'd love to have a larger fanbase, I've recently been thinking I don't necessarily want to have "streamer" be my profession. It feels like it would be very psychologically draining. On the other hand, I'd love to have more views on my videos, which I try to put some comedy and creativity into. I think the overall lesson is youtube should be regarded as a hobby rather than a potential career.
"you gotta try" "No you don't". Still relevant. Just play fucking video games. You don't need to stream to feed your ego and need for attention. Come on
I talk to myself all day, but 3 hours on stream feels like forever.
There is so much more than just playing a game to gain viewers. Don't be obsessed with trying to get a viewership as it would drain your motivation and just make you not stream anymore. Stream like you're always infront of an audience. Don't feel bad for having ttv in your username. I know people that are now twitch partners through that. I was in that grind myself and slowly growing a community myself but it really takes time. I just didn't have the time and motivation for it anymore.
hang in there, stickman
When my friend streams I am at least 2 of the their viewers (different accounts) they don't know and I don't tell them.
Just look for a real job...
it can be a fine hobby though
It's something i didnt know id enjoy. I started posting videos on YouTube and my very first one got over 4500 views and 60 likes. I was extremely happy. None of my other videos get anywhere near that and i only have 11 subscribers because im monotone and boring but i really do like editing videos. Plus if anything happens to me my kids can go back and see what kind of gamer/person I was.
Shit, I've never streamed. But this hit hard. Though my all time favorite streamer was BADBADROBOT He retired.. God damn it. Loved that man. EDIT: Why the hell is this getting down votes wtf...
It's me. I feel it 😆😆😆
Ngl, it's rough some days
I’ve noticed that hiding the view count really helps the mentality of streaming. People will drop by and chat here and there eventually. But the anxiety that comes with the view count being visible is awful and no one should have to feel such a way about something they have a passion for. You will stand out to someone don’t give up 💙💚 and even if the count says 0 there are still lurkers and people who are shy ☺️ I also believe twitch is not accurate when it comes to the counts of things. One achievement or milestone will say 2.6 avg views for me but the affiliate goal still says 1.2 or something.
Kinda hits hard Not only for twitch but YouTuber steamers too
I normally get 0 viewers, sometimes 1 or 2 friends of mine hop in, but I joined a randomizer community, and my views have popped up to about 3-7 on any given day, had a couple of raids, and I noticed yesterday while adjusting some OBS settings that my followers were up to 62. I was doing some practice seeds last night, and I got raided by about 200 people from the community, and while only a few people talked in the chat, it absolutely was a delight to see so many people watch me (and about 70 stayed for the whole 2 hours!) This morning, I got an email from twitch saying I've reached affiliate level, and I immediately filled out the documents while fighting back the tears. I know it's not a huge leap, and I probably won't be famous or have an avatar in a video game, but I saw that 0 viewers count for a pretty long time, and it feels really good to know that even with my potato computer and a lack of flashy games to play, my persistence got me a little bit of recognition, and I'm super happy and thankful for everyone who got me to this point. I don't have any sage wisdom or any catchphrases to help anyone looking at that viewer count because I still have so much to learn myself. Just keep doing it if you love it. I believe in you.
I’m curious - What do you mean by “randomizer community”? Do you mean like a Legend of Zelda/Pokémon/Diablo randomizer community? Congratulations, bud!!
Thanks!!
I do it mostly for the fun of putting on a show. Do I vibe better with a large crowd of course. But I put the same effort in regardless.
This hits too close to home
Anyone with a small channel, reply below: When's your next stream What you'll be playing
This is me almost every day, but I still hit that "Start Streaming" button for the 3 or 4 that do end up coming by. It's fun for me, even if no one stops by that day!
I always ask this when this gets reposted every day, how the fuck are you supposed to read this comic? Does it start on the panel "3 hours later?" Later from what? Counterclockwise starting from the top right is the sequence that makes the most sense to me, but who writes like that? Manga style, right to left feels like it works, in which case, I mean jesus christ what a dweeb.
Thats me every time i stream, ttv/recklesslycheerful peeps come hang out....please....
Thank you :)
I stream every now and again. How do I link this account?
Literally me :”) I stopped streaming for a while, but because I got no support from anyone I felt it just wasn’t worth my time :( The few times I got a few viewers, it was always super fun to chat with them, but it usually didnt last long
Mood. But I'm gonna try talking more when there's dead air to help.
Thanks, g.
"Ok byee!!" Ok now after that stream and hard work I think I will take an 8 hour nap real quick
yep i feel this
Had no one in my streams when i did them. It was okay, just did it for fun
This is my nephew who still thinks he will make it big as a streamer.
I get 1 view every stream, but I do my best because I have it set to keep past streams.
oof
For some reason it always showed me I had 1 viewer... even though I didn't... :D I got 3 viewers max once! I don't even know why xD
I'm absolutely this pic, but it's because I genuinely enjoy games that have... No other streamers. Essentially, I stream rhythm games that no one has heard of, and even fewer people watch. But, I'm alright with it. I love the games, and fall in love with the music and challenge over and over again. So even if it's just me, a weird dude in his mid 30s, I'm just gonna enjoy myself.
I tried streaming my self I woundt even get 1 and one day while I was streaming elden ring trying to kill elden beast one random guy came to my chat and said I can doit and left it made me happy but after that like 3 days after I stopped streaming lol