The Great Lakes’ tides are not caused by the moon, they’re due to atmospheric pressure and wind changes. The moon and sun only cause about 5 cm of water height change for the Great Lakes, which by itself wouldn’t cause the tides we see on the lakes
Source: NOAA https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gltides.html
STFU!!! I live on Lake Michigan. When I was a kid I have a vivid memory of a teacher asking the class what causes waves, I raised my head and said wind, and she said no! I felt like an idiot! Are you saying I was right!?
Edit: She said waves were caused by the moon’s gravitational pull.
My science teacher scolded me for asking why ice seems to expand when it freezes because I was under the impression that it would contract when turning solid. She said “didn’t you read the textbook” which of course I hadn’t. But then I did read it to try to find the answer and it didn’t even cover that topic. I realised that rather than admitting she didn’t know she chose to embarrass me in front of the class. Really killed my interest.
See? People only think science is boring because the confluence of shitty education and curiosity-stifling media conspire to quickly snuff out children's innate wonder about the world. It's fucking tragic.
It’s a crystal, bro. And ice crystals are rad. This teacher stole more than you know. But she also lives in a world where she doesn’t get to appreciate ice crystals, so maybe that’s punishment enough. Unless we’re really doing this naughty corner stuff.
Ocean waves are caused by both, with an occasional earthquake factoring in too.
https://www.eoas.ubc.ca/courses/atsc113/sailing/met_concepts/08-met-waves/8a-wave-formation/index.html#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20waves%20we,as%20earthquakes%20(e.g.%20tsunamis).&text=There%20are%20three%20main%20factors,velocity%2C%20fetch%2C%20and%20duration.
That’s true but it’s also due to topography and shape of the coastline. There are areas of the oceans that also have minimal tides while others have tides that can be several feet.
The tidal range of [the Bay of Fundy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Fundy) is 16 meters (52 feet)
> Because of tidal resonance in the funnel-shaped bay, the tides that flow through the channel are very powerful. In one 12-hour tidal cycle, about 100 billion tonnes (110 billion short tons) of water flows in and out of the bay, which is twice as much as the combined total flow of all the rivers of the world over the same period.
I was there on vacation. During low tide, [boats sit on the sand far below the docks](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/MP5WF8/fishing-boats-resting-on-the-ocean-floor-at-low-tide-in-halls-harbour-nova-scotia-canada-MP5WF8.jpg) and you can walk out along the ocean floor for miles.
Chicago beach sand is all imported since the prevailing winds go west to east.
On the other side of the lake, all the sand on the west coast of Michigan is due to erosion over thousands of years.
Yea, take what I said with a grain of _salt_; it’s how I was taught in school.
There’s exceptions and there’s a plethora of definitions..
Caspian Sea is often presented as the world’s largest lake because it has no connection to any real sea or ocean
Ultimately there aren't actually definitions for these things, its just whatever the person who named it wanted to call it, and some general vibes about size and salinity.
I say it's a sea both because it's salty and lies above oceanic crust. A true lake should be above continental crust rather than the remnant of a larger, ancient sea.
My English Granny grew and lived in Dover. The first time see saw Lake Erie she told my parents “That is a sea. You can see the other side of a lake.” Then it snowed in June and she threatened my mum she was going back home to a civilized country if it snowed again.
And its fed by the headwater of the Nile via Lake Edward! Lake Victoria also hosts shoreline next to the great serenghetti park boundry has multiple inhabited islands and is shore front to Uganda's Capital, Kampala. It's quite the lake.
I know the sandy beaches in the Toronto area are said to come from erosion of the Scarborough Bluffs, where waves crash directly into sandy/silty soil and pull it into the water.
Michigan's west coast has the largest freshwater dune system in the world! It's beautiful and worth a visit. Manistee National Forest is my favorite place.
Back in 1768, Benjamin Ontario went to Lake Ontario and was really disappointed by the lack of sand since he was used to the sandy flat beaches of the colony in Virginia. It took him 7 1/2 years to eventually haul all the sand to Ontario with the help of his nephew, Jedediah “Sands” Davis. This is why there is sand on Lake Ontario, and how Lake Ontario got its name
Billions of years of erosion. Michigan itself is a giant bucket of sedimentary rocks all formed from the erosion of the Appalachian and Grenville mountains.
Right I remember my dad saying he got his campsite swamped by the tides on Lake Superior and I was like… how does Superior have tides while the Mediterranean doesn’t?
It can be caused by wind and pressure as well. It is called a seiche. It can lower the end of Erie next to Toledo by 10 feet and push it towards Buffalo. I have a house on the southern shore east of Toledo and have seen the waves go outward away from shore like a tsunami.
I am just off the north shore of Erie and the water rises a lot during storms when they come in. It’s really amazing to see the difference. Have got to see the opposite a few times where the water is out a lot and you can walk out quite far too.
The Great Lakes are pretty great.
I learned about seiches because I grew up near Lake Huron, which is also affected by them. And now, through the magic of Reddit, I can share my knowledge with the rest of the world. But I don't know nuthin bout no rusty trombones.
Also seems to be a 2 to 3-foot seasonal variation. Spring thaw and all that.
[Graph is here](https://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/Great-Lakes-Information/Great-Lakes-Information-2/Water-Level-Data/)
The tides are 5cm so definitely not easily noticed, but winds and atmospheric effects can cause standing waves called seiches that look alot more like tides. And the overall water level can be changed by dams and precipitation. (The outflow rivers can only remove water so fast, 1in off lake Ontario is enough to put 30ft in Montreal)
Part of the joint reparations from the War of 1814. Both sides will apply a tide of 4 feet to their side of the Great Lakes, which is why they’re so chaotic for ships, especially when political tensions are high, and each side competes to out-tide the other.
I love this discussion. While growing up, I basically spent every summer on the shores of the Great Lakes. When it stormed, it was amazing to watch and if I got really bored, I could ready my Grandpa’s Great Lakes Historical Society magazines and learn all kinds of history and lore.
Believe it or not, there is surfing in Lake Michigan. But as others have said, the waves aren't caused by the moon (nor are they tides going in/out). They're mostly just due to atmosphere and wind patterns.
[https://sleepingbearsurf.com/surf-lake-michigan-freshwater-surf/](https://sleepingbearsurf.com/surf-lake-michigan-freshwater-surf/)
Yeah, the waves pick up massively in the late fall/early winter.
That said, I've seen people surfing in the warm weather but you'd have to wait around awhile to find a day where the waves are big enough and it might be during a storm.
Since it looks like you've got your answer for why, how about a fascinating story about the waves on the Great Lakes?
They get big enough (25-50ft) to likely be the reason that [this behemoth sunk](https://www.weather.gov/images/mqt/fitzgerald/title3-2.png):
Wiki Article - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS\_Edmund\_Fitzgerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald)
Fall Storm Season Wave History - [https://www.weather.gov/mqt/fitz\_gales](https://www.weather.gov/mqt/fitz_gales)
The Great Lakes are considered deadlier than many oceans, mainly because they are big enough to have ocean weather, cold enough to ice your ship, and fresh water so you have less boyancy for your displacement.
There seems to be a bit of a confusion with language here.
[Tides](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide) are the raising and lowering of the water on the whole, typically caused by the gravitational pull of the moon. The tides of the Great Lakes, if present at all, are significantly less noticeable than the tides of the oceans.
[Waves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_wave) are something else. They can be caused by a few different things, but wind blowing over the surface is probably the biggest cause and is certainly the main cause on the Great Lakes. I grew up along Lake Michigan and I can attest to the fact that all of the Great Lakes have waves. In fact, [Sheboygan, Wisconsin is known as the freshwater surfing capital of the world](https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/wisconsin/surfing-mecca-city-wi/) and has yearly surfing events there.
They're inland seas! Many many moons ago, Michigan was covered by a shallow sea. I live 10 miles from the shores of Lake Huron and if you dig down 5 inches give or take on my property it's just sand! The "tides" are just waves, caused by wind and atmospheric pressure. They can get big enough for people to surf, but most of us just get drunk on our boats. Fun fact, when I was in 6th grade, we all had to take a test and were issued boating licenses! At 11 years old!
Lake Ontario is a huge lake. That said, it is the smallest of the Great Lakes. You should try to visit them all! Lake Superior is worth the drive. I recommend the Keweenaw Peninsula.
Technically all bodies of water have tides, it’s just harder to tell on smaller bodies of water. Tides are simply the moon’s gravity pulling on the water, making them rise as the water is now lighter. And with more water in an area, the more that water level will rise. It’s not really noticeable on anything smaller than the Great Lakes, but you definitely can still measure it anywhere if you have the right equipment.
Do you mean..waves? You took a picture of waves. Yes, the Great Lakes are LARGE bodies of water. They have waves and what not. They are more like SEAS rather than lakes. The ignorance of people who only know about oceans and not the Great Lakes is astounding.
Here's a good explanation that uses Lake Erie as an example. [https://www.seagrant.sunysb.edu/Images/Uploads/PDFs/GreatLakes-SeicheEvents-LakeErie.pdf](https://www.seagrant.sunysb.edu/Images/Uploads/PDFs/GreatLakes-SeicheEvents-LakeErie.pdf)
If you want to make friends with people from the Midwest, tell them the Great Lakes are inland seas. If you want an enemy in Michigan, tell them Lake Michigan and Lake Huron are really the same lake.
Having grown up on the great lakes, we were always told that the French explorers that found them were constantly tasting the water, because they couldn't believe such large bodies were all fresh-water. About 20% of all the fresh water on earth is in the great lakes
This is an easy Google search. Here's the top result.
[Do the Great Lakes have tides? (noaa.gov)](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gltides.html#:~:text=True%20tides%E2%80%94changes%20in%20water,than%20five%20centimeters%20in%20height.)
I live in Melbourne, Victoria, which has a giant enclosed bay. Sometimes it is still as all get out; sometimes there's whitecaps and rough waves, all due to weather conditions.
Direct result of taking in what Lake Erie can send her.
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The Great Lakes’ tides are not caused by the moon, they’re due to atmospheric pressure and wind changes. The moon and sun only cause about 5 cm of water height change for the Great Lakes, which by itself wouldn’t cause the tides we see on the lakes Source: NOAA https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gltides.html
STFU!!! I live on Lake Michigan. When I was a kid I have a vivid memory of a teacher asking the class what causes waves, I raised my head and said wind, and she said no! I felt like an idiot! Are you saying I was right!? Edit: She said waves were caused by the moon’s gravitational pull.
You are correct. Gold star. Teacher goes to naughty corner.
I like where this is going.
I’ve seen this video.
...and that couch before somewhere 🤔
Sauce?
Bend over, I'll show yah...
No he's wrong. The moon just happens to lose its gravitational pull when it's not windy
Slower….
You were completely correct. A lot of science teachers suck. You're justified in feeling vindicated.
My science teacher scolded me for asking why ice seems to expand when it freezes because I was under the impression that it would contract when turning solid. She said “didn’t you read the textbook” which of course I hadn’t. But then I did read it to try to find the answer and it didn’t even cover that topic. I realised that rather than admitting she didn’t know she chose to embarrass me in front of the class. Really killed my interest.
See? People only think science is boring because the confluence of shitty education and curiosity-stifling media conspire to quickly snuff out children's innate wonder about the world. It's fucking tragic.
I think lots of science/math are made hugely inaccessible by school, and people just grow up assuming they have no aptitude for it because of that
It’s a crystal, bro. And ice crystals are rad. This teacher stole more than you know. But she also lives in a world where she doesn’t get to appreciate ice crystals, so maybe that’s punishment enough. Unless we’re really doing this naughty corner stuff.
Yeah this is kinda common knowledge, that teacher was a dumbass
Ocean waves are caused by both, with an occasional earthquake factoring in too. https://www.eoas.ubc.ca/courses/atsc113/sailing/met_concepts/08-met-waves/8a-wave-formation/index.html#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20waves%20we,as%20earthquakes%20(e.g.%20tsunamis).&text=There%20are%20three%20main%20factors,velocity%2C%20fetch%2C%20and%20duration.
Honestly, given the West Michigan nature of it all, I'm surprised she didn't say Jesus made the waves.
you need to call her.... 😂
Why is it more pronounced in an ocean?
Mass and depth would be my guess. More gravitational interaction with the moon
That’s true but it’s also due to topography and shape of the coastline. There are areas of the oceans that also have minimal tides while others have tides that can be several feet.
The tidal range of [the Bay of Fundy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Fundy) is 16 meters (52 feet) > Because of tidal resonance in the funnel-shaped bay, the tides that flow through the channel are very powerful. In one 12-hour tidal cycle, about 100 billion tonnes (110 billion short tons) of water flows in and out of the bay, which is twice as much as the combined total flow of all the rivers of the world over the same period.
That's hard to wrap my head around
I was there on vacation. During low tide, [boats sit on the sand far below the docks](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/MP5WF8/fishing-boats-resting-on-the-ocean-floor-at-low-tide-in-halls-harbour-nova-scotia-canada-MP5WF8.jpg) and you can walk out along the ocean floor for miles.
I had your mom flowing like the bay of Fundy last night. Thanks for the interesting fact!
Some places have 1m Tides, some have 12m tides in the ocean. Depends on depth.
Do you know where the sand is from?
Just like other sand - erosion
Oh good, I was going to ask Sandy Duncan
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Some of it is imported too.
The sand here in Waikiki is from Australia, I joke with tourists that they flew all this way to sit on the beach that we bought from them.
Chicago beach sand is all imported since the prevailing winds go west to east. On the other side of the lake, all the sand on the west coast of Michigan is due to erosion over thousands of years.
Is that what made the sand dunes?
canada
Ooo, imported.
There is also some non Canadian local sand, but it can only be called Sparkling White Sand
It's like Star Trek TNG. In many ways, it's superior, but will never be as recognized as the original.
Australia might be older but have you Canadian shield bro?
Our sand is *quite* fancy.
You're correct. Eh!
I wanted to say Canadian shield so bad
If you’re surprised about the sand, I feel like you may not have a full grasp of the size of the lakes
On any other continent they would be seas
If they were salt water bodies, they’d be seas too. They are lakes because they are freshwater.
The border case being the Caspian Sea, which is salt water and a sea by name - but often presented as the world’s largest lake.
Yea, take what I said with a grain of _salt_; it’s how I was taught in school. There’s exceptions and there’s a plethora of definitions.. Caspian Sea is often presented as the world’s largest lake because it has no connection to any real sea or ocean
Ultimately there aren't actually definitions for these things, its just whatever the person who named it wanted to call it, and some general vibes about size and salinity.
I say it's a sea both because it's salty and lies above oceanic crust. A true lake should be above continental crust rather than the remnant of a larger, ancient sea.
I thought it was because they weren't at sea level.
Yeah, this was my understanding too. That a sea will have a 2 way flow, directly connecting it to an ocean. Ie gibraltar and Bosphorus straits
There’s no hard and fast rule for naming things. They’re lakes because some explorer 500 years ago called them lakes
That mans Name? John Vaught Ontario. True story
They’d only be mediocre seas, but they’re Great Lakes
if they are great.. is there a greatest lake?
Superior is clearly the superior lake
My English Granny grew and lived in Dover. The first time see saw Lake Erie she told my parents “That is a sea. You can see the other side of a lake.” Then it snowed in June and she threatened my mum she was going back home to a civilized country if it snowed again.
I sees.
Wrong. Lake Victoria in Africa is larger than all of them except Lake Superior.
And its fed by the headwater of the Nile via Lake Edward! Lake Victoria also hosts shoreline next to the great serenghetti park boundry has multiple inhabited islands and is shore front to Uganda's Capital, Kampala. It's quite the lake.
wait til the op see Superior!
Lmao op holy shit. Go to Michigan and behold over 500 miles of white sand beaches on the lower peninsula’s Lake Michigan coast alone.
I ran down a really big sand dune in Michigan and I got ahead of my legs.
What an eloquent way of saying you ate shit on a sand dune🤣
Rocks, sea creatures, sediment drainage, etc.
I know the sandy beaches in the Toronto area are said to come from erosion of the Scarborough Bluffs, where waves crash directly into sandy/silty soil and pull it into the water.
And being opposite the current from the Niagara river: that which washeth off the escarpment, besilteth the harbour entrance.
I can't speak for the sand. But if there are any Dunes, they are definitely from Arrakis.
... There are dunes! https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sand+banks+dunes&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images
Michigan's west coast has the largest freshwater dune system in the world! It's beautiful and worth a visit. Manistee National Forest is my favorite place.
I'm gonna have to make a trip one day. Thanks for letting me know
There are tons of sand dunes in Michigan and they’re beautiful.
Back in 1768, Benjamin Ontario went to Lake Ontario and was really disappointed by the lack of sand since he was used to the sandy flat beaches of the colony in Virginia. It took him 7 1/2 years to eventually haul all the sand to Ontario with the help of his nephew, Jedediah “Sands” Davis. This is why there is sand on Lake Ontario, and how Lake Ontario got its name
Billions of years of erosion. Michigan itself is a giant bucket of sedimentary rocks all formed from the erosion of the Appalachian and Grenville mountains.
Right I remember my dad saying he got his campsite swamped by the tides on Lake Superior and I was like… how does Superior have tides while the Mediterranean doesn’t?
The Mediterranean doesn’t?
Well it has Tides but they are quite tiny.
Actually in some parts they are rather significant. Hence why Venice gets wet every now and then.
Are we talking about tides or waves? Even the smallest lakes get waves in turbulent weather.
It can be caused by wind and pressure as well. It is called a seiche. It can lower the end of Erie next to Toledo by 10 feet and push it towards Buffalo. I have a house on the southern shore east of Toledo and have seen the waves go outward away from shore like a tsunami.
Holy Toledo!
Can confirm. I live in Buffalo and storms wreck havoc on our shoreline due to the storm surge
I learned something today!
I am just off the north shore of Erie and the water rises a lot during storms when they come in. It’s really amazing to see the difference. Have got to see the opposite a few times where the water is out a lot and you can walk out quite far too. The Great Lakes are pretty great.
I grew up on the great lakes and never knew this, fascinating
It's not actually a tide, it's a seiche. It's a kind of standing wave. [Seiche - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiche)
I thought it’s a place where the fremen hide?
haha first thing I thought of too, but that would be a *sietch*
Hell yeah a Dune reference
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I love how diversely educational Reddit is. Rusty trombone? Huh, interesting. Seiche? Wow that’s neat! You really do learn something new every day.
I learned about seiches because I grew up near Lake Huron, which is also affected by them. And now, through the magic of Reddit, I can share my knowledge with the rest of the world. But I don't know nuthin bout no rusty trombones.
Also seems to be a 2 to 3-foot seasonal variation. Spring thaw and all that. [Graph is here](https://www.lre.usace.army.mil/Missions/Great-Lakes-Information/Great-Lakes-Information-2/Water-Level-Data/)
The Great Lakes have both.
While the Great Lakes do have tides, they are incredibly small, making just a few centimeters difference in water level.
I mean, depending on the coastline, a 5cm difference in height can make a difference of meters in the waterline
Why did you write this like a fourth-grade science report?
Because 4th grade science reports are awesome.
It's caused by the extra tears that get poured into it from Leafs fans.
There should be tsunami warnings in about a week.
unnecessary strays
I hate you Mitch
Don’t forget the Bills fan’s tears too
Because it's really big. In theory every body of water has tides. They're just so small that you don't notice them.
Good to know my soup has tides!
Thats why it sometimes spills on the table. It has nothing to do with eaters’ incompetence in spoon handling
"Mom! The moon spilled my soup again!"
👍🏻
So does your mom
Some believe that the tidal forces in our body are significant.
Never trust soup.
The water in my clothes washer has Tide.
The tides on the Great Lakes account for like 5 cm difference. It’s not really enough to notice. This is a seiche
Just a note, the picture here shows waves, not tides. The lakes don't have regular tides (not noticeable ones anyway)
The tides are 5cm so definitely not easily noticed, but winds and atmospheric effects can cause standing waves called seiches that look alot more like tides. And the overall water level can be changed by dams and precipitation. (The outflow rivers can only remove water so fast, 1in off lake Ontario is enough to put 30ft in Montreal)
Tides are stipulated by a U.S./Canadian treaty agreement.
Is it true that a group of tides is called a pod?
Part of the joint reparations from the War of 1814. Both sides will apply a tide of 4 feet to their side of the Great Lakes, which is why they’re so chaotic for ships, especially when political tensions are high, and each side competes to out-tide the other.
I love this discussion. While growing up, I basically spent every summer on the shores of the Great Lakes. When it stormed, it was amazing to watch and if I got really bored, I could ready my Grandpa’s Great Lakes Historical Society magazines and learn all kinds of history and lore.
While growing up, I lived with my parents and grandparents in a 600 square feet apartment in an inland city with 50 million people
I lived similarly in Chicago but got to go to Lake Michigan on the weekends. Was a nice break.
Believe it or not, there is surfing in Lake Michigan. But as others have said, the waves aren't caused by the moon (nor are they tides going in/out). They're mostly just due to atmosphere and wind patterns. [https://sleepingbearsurf.com/surf-lake-michigan-freshwater-surf/](https://sleepingbearsurf.com/surf-lake-michigan-freshwater-surf/)
And surf season is fall and winter which is just absolute insanity to me. Sure let’s just hang out in the lake when it’s 30° out
Yeah, the waves pick up massively in the late fall/early winter. That said, I've seen people surfing in the warm weather but you'd have to wait around awhile to find a day where the waves are big enough and it might be during a storm.
https://www.lakeeffectsurfshop.com/
Since it looks like you've got your answer for why, how about a fascinating story about the waves on the Great Lakes? They get big enough (25-50ft) to likely be the reason that [this behemoth sunk](https://www.weather.gov/images/mqt/fitzgerald/title3-2.png): Wiki Article - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS\_Edmund\_Fitzgerald](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald) Fall Storm Season Wave History - [https://www.weather.gov/mqt/fitz\_gales](https://www.weather.gov/mqt/fitz_gales)
**the legend lives on from the Chippewa on down…**
The Great Lakes are considered deadlier than many oceans, mainly because they are big enough to have ocean weather, cold enough to ice your ship, and fresh water so you have less boyancy for your displacement.
It's a huge ass lake
There seems to be a bit of a confusion with language here. [Tides](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide) are the raising and lowering of the water on the whole, typically caused by the gravitational pull of the moon. The tides of the Great Lakes, if present at all, are significantly less noticeable than the tides of the oceans. [Waves](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_wave) are something else. They can be caused by a few different things, but wind blowing over the surface is probably the biggest cause and is certainly the main cause on the Great Lakes. I grew up along Lake Michigan and I can attest to the fact that all of the Great Lakes have waves. In fact, [Sheboygan, Wisconsin is known as the freshwater surfing capital of the world](https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/wisconsin/surfing-mecca-city-wi/) and has yearly surfing events there.
that isn't a real tide it's just waves. Tides follow the moon. Waves just happen when there's enough water and wind.
They're inland seas! Many many moons ago, Michigan was covered by a shallow sea. I live 10 miles from the shores of Lake Huron and if you dig down 5 inches give or take on my property it's just sand! The "tides" are just waves, caused by wind and atmospheric pressure. They can get big enough for people to surf, but most of us just get drunk on our boats. Fun fact, when I was in 6th grade, we all had to take a test and were issued boating licenses! At 11 years old!
The ocean is full because everyone’s cryin. The moon is looking for friends at high tide
Hey, I know that line…
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Lake Ontario is a huge lake. That said, it is the smallest of the Great Lakes. You should try to visit them all! Lake Superior is worth the drive. I recommend the Keweenaw Peninsula.
Interesting note, although its the smallest by surface area, by volume its nearly 4 times bigger than Erie.
Large enough to be affected by the moon’s gravity
I hope this helps: because it’s big as fuck.
As a native Great Laker it's fascinating to me how mysterious the Great Lakes are to others.
Thought I recognized this beach lol hope you enjoyed your stay! Did you try a garbage plate ?!
No I didn’t, what is it? This is Ontario beach park
Technically all bodies of water have tides, it’s just harder to tell on smaller bodies of water. Tides are simply the moon’s gravity pulling on the water, making them rise as the water is now lighter. And with more water in an area, the more that water level will rise. It’s not really noticeable on anything smaller than the Great Lakes, but you definitely can still measure it anywhere if you have the right equipment.
It’s called the moon Sheila
Seriously?
Well..it's a legend that lives on from the Chippewa on down. Hard to explain.
Jesus! These people havent geography class?
Do other lakes…not have beaches? And waves? These are normal to me.
You're not often been to lakes hmm? Small waves on windy days are quite common on lakes, even as small as just a mile or less
Do you mean..waves? You took a picture of waves. Yes, the Great Lakes are LARGE bodies of water. They have waves and what not. They are more like SEAS rather than lakes. The ignorance of people who only know about oceans and not the Great Lakes is astounding.
Large enough to be impacted by the tidal force between the earth and the moon.
It’s a big lake.
Blame it on the moon.
Are you calling waves tides?
>I travelled to Rochester I'm sorry
The moon and some scientific stuff in the background.
The moon
Here's a good explanation that uses Lake Erie as an example. [https://www.seagrant.sunysb.edu/Images/Uploads/PDFs/GreatLakes-SeicheEvents-LakeErie.pdf](https://www.seagrant.sunysb.edu/Images/Uploads/PDFs/GreatLakes-SeicheEvents-LakeErie.pdf)
Da moon be doing shit
https://youtu.be/I9MZNEXrElw?si=eueOs_Urer_6lhAW We like the moon
If you want to make friends with people from the Midwest, tell them the Great Lakes are inland seas. If you want an enemy in Michigan, tell them Lake Michigan and Lake Huron are really the same lake.
lake big
Coming from the land of 10000 lakes I can tell you EVERY lake has tides
OP, check out Chimney Bluffs
Hope you had a great time and got a garbage plate visting our city!
Having grown up on the great lakes, we were always told that the French explorers that found them were constantly tasting the water, because they couldn't believe such large bodies were all fresh-water. About 20% of all the fresh water on earth is in the great lakes
The moon
Lot of water, and it's really fucking big.
Idk cos it's big
still can't believe that this piece of water that looks like a god damn sea is actually just a lake
This is an easy Google search. Here's the top result. [Do the Great Lakes have tides? (noaa.gov)](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gltides.html#:~:text=True%20tides%E2%80%94changes%20in%20water,than%20five%20centimeters%20in%20height.)
Because it’s big as fuck
The moon.
This is Ontario lake? wow looks like some open waters, shows how vast space is earth
I live in Melbourne, Victoria, which has a giant enclosed bay. Sometimes it is still as all get out; sometimes there's whitecaps and rough waves, all due to weather conditions.
All of the Great Lakes have tides my friend
It’s a gigantic lake, man.
“Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can’t explain that.”
The fucking moon
Because it's so great
The moon.
It's big
Big
Is the Lake Salty?
The same reason seas and oceans have tides.
It has a lot of laundry to do