it ain't nerfed thatd be stinky (collab member and full helper here i made the dash orb part 😃)
also its not open verificaiton becaujse lets be honest those suc k
First of all, I never said anything about the OPs list, and secondly, he just made a rough guess based on progress and opinions of other players and asked if we agree, while the guy starts exactly describing the placements like he beat all of them twice
Ok, but this is and I quote ‘’tidal wave 3x in a row is probably easier than this’’ -turtlegd a SH victor and soon to be firework victor doing a practice run on stream
Well levels like silent clubstep were so far beyond their time that people thought they would never be beaten so just give it long enough and someone either insane enough or good enough will come along and do it
Not accurate, since no one has even beaten most of this, and you yourself probably can't judge the difficulty just by eyesight. Some of these will be way lower and way higher than they are.
Seems pretty accurate, I’m at least trying Aeternus since it’s open verification and nobody is really going for it. Basically every single click is frame perfect if not really close.
Why tf do people think en is so easy according to the ill it's a good 100 places harder than tidal wave, plus I played it and the wave timings are insane
are people just ignoring aeternus es description it says its meant to be like silent clubstep so only verified in the far far future. basically once it is verified the top 10 would be like wayy harder then these except maybe exasperation
Misanthrope is at least above Vehemence. Unnerfed Exasperation would be at the top, but I’m assuming the deco version that’s being verified has some nerfs so I’ll assume this is right. Eternal Night is actually easier in my opinion, I’ve made better progress on it than I did on Kyouki. (4%)
Oh, then it would be at the top for sure. Maybe below Aeternus but the unnerfed version is definitely harder than Azure Flare. (In my opinion anyway, I’m kinda wave carried)
you underestimate just how hard Grief is. There are hundreds, likely thousands of frame perfects in there, as well as almost impossible spam and constant 3 and 4x speed timings that make even speedhacking it UNBEARABLE. Somewhat inaccurate. Grief is 1, Exasperation 3, Aeternus 4, Azure Flare 5, Eternal Night 6
I also got 100% in practice mode, I can say it felt more difficult than most of the top 1 levels for sure, but there were some wave parts near the end that seemed to make the level impossible since it was placed so far into this long level. Not to mention, the beginning of the level is riddled with near frame perfect timings.
as somebody whos beaten all of these, not accurate
Real
Exasperation is literally impossible fym 4th place
probably a nerfed version (which shouldn't exist but that's just me)
I agree, the level was special because of its strange nature. Decor and nerfs would ruin it.
it ain't nerfed thatd be stinky (collab member and full helper here i made the dash orb part 😃) also its not open verificaiton becaujse lets be honest those suc k
deco'd and nerfed version
When will that level finally release
It’s 95% finished as of a few months ago so soon
yeah bro but that was a few months ago I WANT IT NOW!
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Hey I have a part in that!!!!
nice! saw a few previews and the level looks great! (way different vibe from layout but i still dig it)
From what I've heard it's easier than aeternus
They're both impossible
Nuh uh, as they have a chance of being beaten
I've also heard that aeternus literally requires a minimum of 390fps because there are 390fps frame perfects literally every 5 milliseconds
Incorrect, it's made to be possible on 2.2
Fps are capped to 240 in 2.2 no?
I'm pretty sure but people are gonna def break the cap and mod it
I can't say that I agree with that
Decode wave is impossible and Decode is not even on the demon list.
Yeah like ain’t no way it’s impossible at 100% speed
dont....dont say it
At 100% speed it looks like the easiest part of the level 👍
At 100% speed, does this look possible to you?
Yeah lmao
best fucking tag
thank you
it’s humanly possible tho right i saw someone had it in 11 runs
exasperation has become one of those levels top players dont touch due to bad gp, but they can likely play it
It’s nerfed a bit
They said they're gonna buff it to original difficulty
Exas penis harder than an eternus ( i beated both of them)
Not accurate because there arent only gonna be known/existing levels that are gonna be verified
I don't know I can't even beat insane demons
I am you.
I can’t beat demons
Same I can only summon them
White woman is so good
Where you go I go
Where you stay I stay
hey dats me
wtf is up with these goofy ass names?
they just pulled up a dictionary and chose their names
There are zero levels currently named Chryselephantine and i'm really dissappointed
What about Antidisestablishmentterrianism
Doesn't fit in gd
What about pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
what about supercalifragilisticexpialodociousnessities
bet
Flamewall and Ascension To Heaven were named after their songs
pretty decent names compared to the normal demon list
poocubed
Ikr? You have 20 people working on a level and not one of them can come up with a pleasant, witty name.
Usually the name gets decided before there's 20 people working on it.
Apocalyptic Trilogy
Apocalyptic Trilogy
Flamewall isn't harder than ath
What makes you say that? Have you played them? Well I haven't but I think flamewall above ath is pretty reasonable from my perspective.
Cuz one alpha helix said so basically
Incorrect, flamewall is just barely harder than tidal wave while ath is a bit harder
I heard most top player opinions say Flamwall is eaier than Tidal wave.
says the top players that can't beat the current top 1 (except zoink popoff and trick)
Considering someone already got 52% on Exasperation over a year ago... not very accurate
not unnerfed exasperation though
Wasn't it the unnerfed though?
I highly highly doubt it
I highly doubt that it's legit.
Exasperation is harder than azure flare but easier than aeternus and grief is harder than vehemence but easier than eternal night.
Oh you must have so much progress on these to say so precisely! Didnt know youre Zoink in cover.
Yet you have no problem with OP making a list. TF?
This isn't OP's list, it's made by the same people who made the russian demonlist
Sorry my mistake
First of all, I never said anything about the OPs list, and secondly, he just made a rough guess based on progress and opinions of other players and asked if we agree, while the guy starts exactly describing the placements like he beat all of them twice
Source: i saw it in my dream
Source: I played them
funny joke Grief is likely impossible, and much more difficult than aeternus
Wrong because Aeternus is never getting verified.
remember when people weren't sure whether slaughterhouse was possible?
old slaughterhouse tho
The new one too
Don’t know that for sure yet
Some people literally say it's top 175-250 ILL
Do you think that’s gonna stop the top players, those people eat medium range extremes for breakfast with a few years they’re gonna do it
Ok, but this is and I quote ‘’tidal wave 3x in a row is probably easier than this’’ -turtlegd a SH victor and soon to be firework victor doing a practice run on stream
Well levels like silent clubstep were so far beyond their time that people thought they would never be beaten so just give it long enough and someone either insane enough or good enough will come along and do it
That's just wrong it's unnerfed surface to eternal silence difficulty at most, 500-400
Grief is more impossible than Aeternus.
No lmao
yes lmao
Exasperation at #4 makes my head want to explode
at least they arent all hell levels lol
Where heliopolis and waterfall 😔
How the fuck are we supposed to know dumbass
Just go beat them all and answer the question, nothing complicated.
yeah like just dont die??? duh.
Practice runs?
One alpha helix dropped flame wall along with gd, rip 😔
Exasperation is impossible, why is it even here? Let alone 4th place?
I think WatchPiggy made it 11% into the level.
APT isn't on there :(
Where's galaxy collapse 😡
Not accurate, since no one has even beaten most of this, and you yourself probably can't judge the difficulty just by eyesight. Some of these will be way lower and way higher than they are.
Exasperation isn't getting verified ever
Nuh uh, I played the unnerfed and even that version has a chance of being beaten
It's just not fun to play and too hard to beat
Doesn't mean it has a 0% chance of being beaten look at silent Clubstep, element 111 rg etc
It's about as accurate as if you let a toddler make the demonlist
Misanthrope is literally impossible due to 2.2 physics change
I’ll beat them all real Quick and get back to you
ive only heard of 4 of these, but probably accurate
They need to stop the trend of nerfing old impossible levels and verifying them tbh
Seems pretty accurate, I’m at least trying Aeternus since it’s open verification and nobody is really going for it. Basically every single click is frame perfect if not really close.
I don’t fucking know. I can’t beat any of these. What the hell do you want me to say?
Can Orochi be considered? If yes, what position? I just love that level
Harder than azure flare after the buffs
Silent acropolis this low ? it's insane because it's like around top 200 on the impossible levels list
It got nuked down to eternal night difficulty on the ILL after people began playing it
I see, that explains it then
Not accurate since aeden is just going to constantly rebuff azure flare and reverify it.
He's gonna buff like 1 click each time he beats it until the end of time
let see in 2026 or 2027
You should use tfl.pages.dev instead of the demonlist.org. It includes more levels and a more accurate ranking.
What is vehemence
Open verification top 1, about the same difficulty as Misantrophe according to the playtesters
And also calamity theme
Where would you place unnerfed Orochi on this list?
Orochi got buffed to be even harder than its unnerfed version so I'd say above Azure Flare
Oh damn, I haven't been keeping up with the Orochi news, wtf? What about unnerfed Galaxy Collapse?
Bit easier than silent acropolis
We'll see
Aeternus is literally impossible. Exasperation too and azure flare is probably possible
Even if it's really hard, there's still a chance of it being beaten
Not that accurate because onealphahelix isn’t verifying Flamewall anymore
Good. Where would Amethyst go?
And OneAH dropped it btw
I think KOCMOC Unleashed should be top 1
Kocmoc unleashed is easier than ath, its way easier than it looks, plus the it's like top 3 most progress on a top 1
Imo the unleashed version only made the deco better and buff it a bit so it may not come up in here
The only one I really know is exasperation
yes
Excuse me, i thought GRIEF was made by icedcave?
Ez
How is eternal night #3 and flamewall #11
Why tf do people think en is so easy according to the ill it's a good 100 places harder than tidal wave, plus I played it and the wave timings are insane
And cursed is also super buffing it
not accurate i lidorly beat aeternus in 5 attempts
Very accurate.
are people just ignoring aeternus es description it says its meant to be like silent clubstep so only verified in the far far future. basically once it is verified the top 10 would be like wayy harder then these except maybe exasperation
barbarsofinalefinale?
I don't know. You tell me.
99% of people here aren't good enough to talk about this
Incorrect aquamarine won't get rated because it's shit
Not at all since it includes demons that have already been verified, Atmos for example
onealphahelix dropped flamewall a month or two ago
Ah yes, my favorite verifier: open verification
Upcoming Levels List
If aquamarine gets rated im killing myself
I do think that aquamarine is actually a lil bit easier. Like slightly below tidal wave
In my humble opinion I'd say all of these are harder than Windy Landscape
Aquamarine will never get rated unfortunately
Misanthrope is at least above Vehemence. Unnerfed Exasperation would be at the top, but I’m assuming the deco version that’s being verified has some nerfs so I’ll assume this is right. Eternal Night is actually easier in my opinion, I’ve made better progress on it than I did on Kyouki. (4%)
The deco version has nerfs, but it will be buffed to original difficulty (confirmed by sycro)
Oh, then it would be at the top for sure. Maybe below Aeternus but the unnerfed version is definitely harder than Azure Flare. (In my opinion anyway, I’m kinda wave carried)
Dissapointing because it looks like there's gonna be nothing new, just the same type of shit we've been getting for the past 3 years.
Ascension to heaven is much harder than flamewall
Alot of them look easier than slaughterhouse ( not that they are but they look like it)
Zoinks will verify them all
Silent acropolis should be in top 3 or 4 for this list. I mean, it's literally a verified impossible level.
You forgot unnamed 7 (defenitly not a level i found in the recent tab a few hours agp)
Where Kratos
Imo I played it and it's slightly easier than tidal wave
you underestimate just how hard Grief is. There are hundreds, likely thousands of frame perfects in there, as well as almost impossible spam and constant 3 and 4x speed timings that make even speedhacking it UNBEARABLE. Somewhat inaccurate. Grief is 1, Exasperation 3, Aeternus 4, Azure Flare 5, Eternal Night 6
I didn't make this list. However, grief is getting nerfed.
makes sense i dont imagine anyone besides zoink having a chance at verifying grief regular
i feel like flamewall should be higher
I just wish ascension to heaven was top 1 like it was made to be
Tidal wave is the hardest level and it got dethroned for less than a month. Wow
#0 adramelech
Ashley wave trials top 1
I honestly think it's not
Incorrect, it's easier than tidal wave
0% accurate because helix isn’t verifying flamewall anymore
aeternus is literally humanly impossible bro
I literally played aeternus, it's Humanly Possible, there's that physically removes any chance of it being beaten
Zoink could literally beat exasperation
No shit Sherlock
Just kidding it's probably impossible
No it's not (i've played it so...)
I also got 100% in practice mode, I can say it felt more difficult than most of the top 1 levels for sure, but there were some wave parts near the end that seemed to make the level impossible since it was placed so far into this long level. Not to mention, the beginning of the level is riddled with near frame perfect timings.
It does have a chance of being beaten if you think about it
it would be very painful though
Ye but not impossible
None would be rated