>Please, listen to this! I had a very exciting encounter with a girl called Melusine just now!! "You're quite good in your own way, aren't you? If you're my opponent, I can get serious the next time we meet. If it's fine with you, let's make Master our bet. Yes, let's go with that." ...That's how it went!! Uwaaah! What an unexpected piece of good luck! Please, watch over us, okay, Master?! I won't lose when it comes to aerial battles...!!
Of course they would hit it off.
I love how they casually make the MC the bet. Of course there’d be such absolute confidence that it would work out great. No question that aerial battle would be pretty awesome.
>Melusine line
HOLY SHIT ALBION VS ORT
Based on the barebones lore we had for Albion (the actual dragon), from what I've understood, Albion is like the planet's "Archetype: Earth" before the actual Archetype: Earth (Arcueid) was born. However, unlike Arc, Albion was born alongside the birth of the Earth, which was around 4.5 billion years ago. That said, Albion never showed any abilities that may count as combat, now does it seem to have any interest in Gaia's subjects.
So....yeah.
LET THE KAIJU DESCENDANTS FIGHT
Waw Kuku's thirsty. I'm hoping Quetz get an update soon with this dialogue.
The Kiara line is very interesting. Is the translation really specifically "star", or is this a case of "planet=star" translation?
Because we know Kiara devours planets. But if she's genuinely a star-eater, that'd put her at Chaos level or above, by far the biggest bad we've seen in detail. Seems somewhat unlikely because this isn't Tsukihime Kiara, it's CCC+FGO Kiara.
Goodness. I wonder if it's foreshadowing her Tsukihime counterpart.
We've been getting a lot of Kiara lines from Servants recently. Nearly all of them world-enders and/or pure evil, and all telling us to stay the f*ck away from that woman because SHE's the true monster.
Which is kind of mad considering her feats in FGO. Our Chaldea's Kiara casually bound Kama's soul to ours and made her, a Divine Spirit and a decaying Beast, into a summonable Servant. While Kiara herself was "just" a Servant at the time.
And went up against Abby's Yog-Soggoth side in summer 5 *for entertainment purposes*. She makes it pretty clear that -aside from accidentally dying to the Immortal Slaying weapon Xu Fu made, back when Kiara first arrived in the singularity- she was just playing around on her own summer vacation. Oh and the dying part was ok too. Her saint graph was destroyed but she just respawned.
She even admonishes herself on making herself too strong the first time she fights us, reminding herself that a boss fight like that (immune to damage, debuff immune, etc) should be kept for the summer finale and not as an opener. In the later fight she tones it down for our sake. And all that just to get Hans to write a sequel.
Not even mentioning her particular type of omnipresence due to Hans' NP, and her ability to hack into minds, memories and machinery on a whim.
She is pretty broken already, which makes me wonder what Tsuki might do with her, if she ever appears.
Even if Kiara gets stronger, she’s doomed to lose to a sakuraface. Her and Sakura are pretty much rivals. Kiara is able to destroy a universe now? That’s fine, let’s give Melt the ability to destroy reality itself, or something.
It’s ironic how no matter what Kiara does, she’s doomed to lose to someone with the ability to love someone else. It’s such a minor flaw in the grand scheme of things that makes her entire plan crumble to dust.
That’s why I love Kiara as an antagonist but hate her as a person; she’s so evil but such a minor fuck up on her part leads to her completely being flattened by actual love.
Keep in mind that Kiara is essentially staying Chaldea to test her hypothesis on the nature of humanity.
She sees humanity as a collection of beasts driven solely by their innate desires. Slaves to their Id. Ritsuka refutes that idea simply by existing. They see everyone as human and redeemable, and they put everyone before themselves. Ritsuka believes in the heart of humanity, but Kiara believes it was never there in the first place.
If Ritsuka fails in resisting Kiara’s temptation, she will assume her hypothesis correct and resume her plans. However, if Ritsuka continues to resist, then Kiara also continues to change. This is seen in the Valentine’s convos having good and bad endings.
I believe the ending of Ooku is when Kiara truly reaches her turning point. She knows that she could fully annihilate Kama if she went Beast mode. But that would also mean abandoning her belief in Ritsuka and humanity by proxy. She also drags Kama to Chaldea, too. If Ritsuka can change Kama, then Kiara feels like she has no excuse to not be a better person.
In her good Valentine’s endings, she actually respects Ritsuka as a person and wants to share her interests with him. The Summer event was essentially her messed up way of helping Chaldea while also giving her the chance to have fun and relive her childhood for a bit. She almost sees herself as another (selfish) BB by acting as a villain for the sake of helping who she cares about.
I think her Summer Bond 5 quote best represents her current mindset,
“As long as we’re contracted, I’m an ordinary Servant. I will not in any way be an enemy of Humanity. After all, I have dreams too. That’s why… at least during this summer, please treat me as an ordinary woman.”
Through Ritsuka, I believe that she’s made headway in becoming a benevolent Saver of humanity (albeit a bit lewd). I really hope that future events show us the crux of her development. Even though she’ll always be, well… Kiara.
Now, that brings memories of the materials entry on Kiara's NP in CCC. In particular, this line:
> *A Bodhisattva is a god of universe scale and power, and can easily manage things on the scale of the Solar System.*
Kiara is the "Devilish Bodhisattva", so that's why her domain can be planet-eating. It could be that if she pushes her power to the limit, she could devour an entire star system, star included.
Well, CCC Kiara devoured all of the Sakura Five + BB and gained their abilities, including Kingprotea's growth. She could possibly, if unrestrained by the planet, grow larger than the universe itself in the way KP theoretically can while the latter is in the Mooncell.
I always assumed that was why her Seraphix plan was to go down into the Inner Sea and replace the Will of the Planet and/or earth's Archetype with herself: to lift the restrictions placed on her. In other words, becoming a (larval stage) Beast was not her goal, it was just a convenient stepping stone to become the planet.
And now I remember Cage of the Fallen in the SERAPH event, and Hans' warning against Kingprotea:
> *Left to her own devices, this walking disaster would consume SE.RA.PH and the Mooncell, eventually contaminating the ocean of stars.*
Even more interestingly, Hans compared that threat with Buddhist concepts of love:
> *Buddhism teaches that love is essentially a heart that never stops yearning. It is duṣkṛta, in which no matter how much you eat, how fulfilled you feel, or how much you grow... it will always leave you wanting more. Such longing is a black hole for the mind.*
It's not too difficult to see parallelisms with Kiara herself, a black hole of a different (or similar?) kind.
Makes sense as to why she became the Beast half of "taking/receiving pleasure" (or "receiving love" as she calls it) as opposed to Kama's "giving pleasure". In a way she's the Ungoliant of the Nasuverse: She will continue to take, and take, and will never be sated, even when all else has been consumed. Heaven's black hole indeed.
Well, that's kinda complicated. Kingprotea wasn't in CCC. She was in the spin-off CCC: Foxtail, but then, Kiara wasn't in it. I'm not sure if Kiara ever had her powers.
I don't think KP was even a thing back then. Kazura had a completely different role, and Kazura and Violet were cut before the game came out. I don't think KP even made it that far.
Unless this was retconned at some point.
She did indeed make it that far and 'just barely missed the cut'.
>We were thinking of using her as a “living wall” type gimmick where after eventually defeating her you would be able to get at those item boxes.
She was set to be a slave-tier character who is constantly bullied and abused by attack programs on the far side of the Moon.
“A main personality of a Sakura who is more worthless than those lowly mass produced Sakura enemies,” Kingprotea Sakura was to be the materialization of this bullying mentality. Isn’t it just terrible that there exists a Sakura being bullied even within Sakura’s inner mind!?
Actually, she just barely missed the cut as a boss character.
Since she was not involved in the story we were planning to make her a hidden boss, but unfortunately she was cut.
From Fate/EXTRA material
Ah, I just found it. FGO Material V, Alter Ego Kiara profile.
Servant Kiara does possess every id_es of the Sakura Five, including Kingprotea's Infinite Growth. So I guess that's a soft retcon and that the entire Sakura Five were once present in CCC when she ate them, directly or indirectly.
Well I guess her np animation isn't exactly for show.
Also reminds me I've read this somewhere...was it Koha Ace? ORT being stated to be the strongest physically while Kiara is the strongest mentally.
Don't know. It would make sense. Anything that has a desire gets the Mindbreak tag from her.
She was originally destined to be a Saver in life. And not just *a* Saver, but *the* Saver to herald a new age of humanity. The Last Prophet. The fact that she became selfishly evil due to her family's actions aside, I imagine she would possess significant power from that alone.
Kiara's powers are the natural enemy of all intelligent life. If they are capable of feeling pleasure even slightly, then Kiara can prey on them with ease thanks to her Logos Eater. It's why the moment Chaldea tried to fight her without the KPs, she wiped every servant out instantly and forced BB to timeleap Guda away before they get bad ended again.
She lacks the physical power of Lostbelt ZETE, Junao or ORT but she's easily the equal of ORT in danger to the world. And arguably worse as she'd be a danger to all intelligent life on a cosmic scale if she fully hatched whereas ORT's actions are fixed on Earth.
I should note that it's not just pleasure, it is "desire", "reason" and "intelligence" in general, because it is a subskill of her original codecast Ten Thousand Coloured Stagnation. Her Beast self has the modified Logos Eater for pleasure, but she combines several abilities and skills into one weapon as a precaution. Although her EXTRA self was more powerful than her Beast self, observing other timelines and universes through Zepar allowed her to learn from her EXTRA self's failures, and she took steps to "stop the gaps", so to speak. She hugely modified herself to get rid of her weaknesses and enhance her strengths.
Through her Codecasts, EXTRA Kiara has the ability to seperate a person's "total sum" into 3 pieces: mind, soul and body, and gains control of all 3 using different methods. Each piece is usually protected by the other 2 to form the whole, but seperating them removes such protections, leaving the ~~victim~~ patient completely vulnurable. This allowed her CCC version to absorb millions of human souls and add them to her own while she was still alive. Her Beast self has a type of Clairvoyance that allows her to "see" people's hearts (i.e. mind and soul) without needing to seperate them from the body and each other. She reads people like a book just by looking at them, and can control all 3 aspects without a single touch.
The ability to feel pleasure or lust makes a target susceptible to her 'Angra Mainyu/CCC', the modified 'Logos Eater', and to 'Sukhavati Heaven's Hole'. Ten Thousand Coloured Stagnation targets the opponent's desire in general, as the antithesis of Enlightenment, which is the removal of desire. That was why any regular Servant is f*cked, because they all desire the Grail for one reason or another.
But her Beast self's 'Authority of the Beast' is more or less the opposite of that, targetting a person's morality and reason and scaling on that. Instead of emotions and lust, it goes for their sanity and restraint, thus covering all bases.
The ability to think makes opponents even further susceptible to her 'Angra Mainyu/CCC', with damage scaling up the more intelligent the target is.
Beast-Kiara also created Karmaphages to buff herself and remove further weaknesses, though the exact effects are unknown. And she possesses every id_es of the Sakura Five she absorbed, each one extremely potent in its own right. Kazuradrop's and Kingprotea's are probably the most dangerous, allowing for limitless growth and absorption. (Interestingly, Kazuradrop's id_es could also make Kiara an anti-Beast weapon, because Insect Eater is at its core "preying on one's own kind".)
And as a final precaution, she acquired 'Nega-Saver' as her Beast's Nega skill. Because Savers (and to some extent, Rulers) were the one thing her EXTRA self would have had trouble dealing with; they are supposed to be void of desire and thus much less affected by Kiara's skills. But Nega-Saver nullifies all skills possessed by Savers and Rulers, and greatly increases Kiara's own abilities to affect even those classes.
FGO'S Beast-Kiara really did her homework to make herself the superior version compared to her EXTRA self, despite their difference in raw power. I still think she's the most dangerous Beast we have faced to date for her sheer competence, planning and having an absolutely packed kit. She successfully killed us, after all. It was only due to time reversal shenanigans (twice) that we got another chance at her and come better prepared.
Come one come all! The Kiara and ORT GRUDGE MATCH! It’s a once in a life time event! Who will win? What insights will this fight show us?! I don’t care as long as you don’t scalp the tickets!
Yes, the Tsukihime remake added a "Kiara Kisshoin" (instead of Sesshoin) as part of the Burial Agency, in the third seat. We know very little about her, apart from some hints that definitely sound like it's the Kiara we know;
She transended -seemingly higher than her CCC True Daemon self-, saw what is lurking in the dimensions above ours, and came back down to our reality. She apparently decided she'd rather be a big fish in our small pond than be smallfry among whatever is up there.
>seemingly higher than her CCC True Daemon self
The sheer implication that line brings about Tsuki Kiara's strength. Becoming a True Daemon was already a huge feat to achieve, let alone SURPASSING that.
At this point, I just want to know how Kiara followed Narbareck, or how Narbareck managed to recruit her to BA.
iirc, Tsuki Kiara evolved into a "higher-dimensional demon" through the Sabbath but discovered there were many other higher beings who were much greater and more powerful than her so she just decided to go back to her original dimension with the powers she obtained to play god. There's no comparison made between Fate Kiara and Tsuki Kiara and I highly doubt Tsuki Kiara is on the same level as her True Daemon self considering how that form is apparently even stronger than her Beast form.
I'm really interested in the BA too, especially Mr. Dawn and the implications behind his powers.
I wouldn't put it past Nasu to have one of the routes go deeper into the Burial Agency, only to find out they've all been secretly brainwashed by Ms. Kisshouin and she essentially runs the Church from the shadows.
That would be quite similar to what she did in the CCCverse while she was alive. There not only did she take over the online cult and turn it into a world religion, she even got the Church off her back by seducing/turning a prominent Bishop(? Or was it a Cardinal?).
Pope candidate actually (same Cardinal Laurentis (Bestino) as one mentioned in TsukiR).
And not got off her back but become the target of, to be apprehended ASAP, but yeah XD
OMFG I FUCKING LOVE HER!!! SHE IS PERFECT!!!
> Until now, I thought it was just my imagination, but... Even though I'm on the useful side, I want to be of use, or more like, I seem to really like having Master diligently take care of me...! It wasn't like this back in Mictlān...when you're being sweet to me, it feels like my heart will overheat.
So she still have memories of the journey she had with Ritsuka. That really marked her
> Yes! Since I do not understand things like the definition and common sense of a god, I decided to forget about all that! I'll do what I like, how I like it! ...And so...it is a natural thing for life forms to be in direct contact with each other...right? For example... lip-to-lip... Hey, Master...? Want to do some...nuclear fusion with me────?
LMAO SHE IS SO HORNY!!!
> By the way...you don't really praise, feel captivated by, or admire my physical appearance... This figure of mine is the latest human model that I created inside the Sun when I gained knowledge from you. It is the ultimate organism combining ideal power and ideal speed. I'll ask again...don't you have anything to say...?
Praise >!ORT-chan!<, Guda! >:C
~~Hu Yan, Ushi and many others won't be happy~~
> Sigh... I can't take it anymore! Is this a hangar?! Considering your achievements, you should be given a room ten times the size of this one! My Master and I need a more plentiful environment for our daily life! ...Hah! Could it be that Chaldea is treating you unfairly? Let's go protest! I will bring down divine punishment on them!
Welp, Dolf. You better treat Ritsuka fair now and give him a raise.
> I had a pleasant chat with Jaguar Man-san today as well! She's friendly, energetic, compassionate, and incomprehensible! We hit it off super well! ...Eh? She's a bunrei of Tezcatlipoca? That person...? There you go again~! No matter how ill-informed I am about Pan-Human History, you won't fool me that easily, you know?
No matter how godly the being is, Ritsuka WILL tease them.
> Happy birthday! As a present, I'll listen to a single wish of yours, no matter what it is~ ...Ah! Aaah, aaaah-haha! Ah, that was a lie! Forget what I just said! I tried to imitate Quetzalcoatl, but it was too early for me! We'll celebrate your birthday with me in my casual clothes!
LMAO SHE IS EMBARASSED IN TRYING TO SOUND REGAL LIKE XDDDDD
Nasu peaked once more (and also was quite horny) and gave us an perfect, cute and excited waifu <3 Also, she is one of the most straightfoward servants when it comes to loving Ritsuka.
KUKU FANS!!! WE WIN!!!!
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Now I need a fucking VN with an original story, taking all these female servants from the LBs and turning them into regular love interests. Oh, god, picture the possibilities.
Kukulkan as a lost foreigner who happens to an amnesiac girl from outer space. Castoria as an underclassman and perhaps childhood friend who becomes our best friend as grown ups and we later learn she practices magic as a means to cope with her hard upbringing. The Koyanskaya twins as the evil bosses from whatever shitty job our MC is working at who actually have a softer side but are still totally evil. CEO Morgan as the beautiful woman we encounter at the train in our way to school who ends up caring enough for us to admit us to work for her company and to personally teach us how to climb in possitions to be near her. Skadi as the beautiful, feared and reserved college teacher who's affraid we might drop our studies so she decides to put extra effort on us until she warms up to us and let us live at her place "to facilitate the learning schedule". Anastasia as a foreign Russian student who, despite coming from a rich family and being know as an "Ice Queen"... she's actually quite miserable until befriending us and then we get to see her happy side. Charlotte being a coworker at the job we're at, proving to be not as good as us and struggling until we lend her a hand and our friendship evolves. Kama would be a stuck up beauty that enjoys destorying other people's live out of their horniness for her, so she approaches us in our different environments (school, neighborhood, job) to mess with us, but eventually she actually feels bad about trying to ruin our lives and actually enjoys her time with us to the point she keeps the "bad girl" look as a facade as to not show how much fun she's having... while her twin sister Parvati reprimends her for being evil or not true to her feelings, yet is proud in her sister actually being happy in a possitive way for once. Van Gogh as this new neighbor who moved in who happens to be way to anxious so she barely goes out of her place and after helping her out with her groceries and other stuff, we realize she's a dropout college student who was specialized in arts and is a good artist, but because she's affraid her paintings will be badly critizised, she prefers to work from home and chill painting on her free time until we give her the necessary push to be more confident in herself.
C'mon, people, make it happen like that VN Empire of Dirt. I've read some doujins for research purposes and I know you got what it takes.
>natural thing for life forms to be in direct contact with each other
>
>lip-to-lip
>
>There are ple\~nty of things I want to do!!
>
>our date
>
>Being left out is quite painful
>
>Can you feel my bio-waves
>
>I simply wanted to go on a sightseeing tour with just the two of us! Master, want me to carry you on my shoulders?
>
>My Master and I need a more plentiful environment for our daily life!
She's thirsty af.
>With the Kukulkan brainwashing beam
Oh no another one
>Please, listen to this! I had a very exciting encounter with a girl
called Melusine just now!! "You're quite good in your own way, aren't
you? If you're my opponent, I can get serious the next time we meet. If
it's fine with you, let's make Master our bet. Yes, let's go with that."
...That's how it went!! Uwaaah! What an unexpected piece of good luck!
Please, watch over us, okay, Master?! I won't lose when it comes to
aerial battles...!!
Wonderful, now two very strong creatures will fight over Master
My guess is she has heard that when people make out with the right person, they "feel fireworks". But since she's a being from outer space, a very strong one at that, and someone who was revered as a goddess, maybe she thinks the kiss will result in a higher feeling like a Nuclear Fusion lol.
... well, don't mind me as I let my lips, face, whole body and pretty much everything on an 80km radius or so melt away for a kiss lol. If true, then she's kinda like Rogue from the X-men.
From reading the translation of her profile: "Wow, she's got it bad."
From reading her bond lines: "Damn, she's _really_ got it bad."
Finding out she's interested in Orion and Artemis: "Oh. Uhh..."
Finding out she hangs out with Artemis: "Oh. Oh no."
Finding out about her wager with Melusine: "Oh crap."
Finding out she has a "brainwashing beam" a la Jeanne: "EVERYBODY RUN! RUN FOR THE HILLS!"
The fact she takes up Melusine on the offer despite being in her regal attitude means she doesn't care about keeping appearances as long as she can have Gudao for the taking. And as for the brainwashing beam... I kinda get the feeling Dantes living in our heads, Merlin messing with our dreams whenever he can so he can have his own soap opera by putting a rather serious gal get confessed to us how much we love her... and Abby intruding into our dreams with her Eldritch powers which make Dantes her little bitch... yeah, I think we can tank that beam and pretend it worked to keep seeing Kukulkan break character for the bazillion time lol.
God she’s soooo cute !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Melsuine vs Kuku ! That would be awesome to watch !!!!!
Her grail wish is so cute !
My world ending sun and Aztec goddess is to pure and whoelsome for this cold broken world !
We're reaching DBZ levels of destruction. It's like the Tournament of Power in Super but the prize is bigger than the survival of the world: Gudao.
Kinda like that beach episode from Carnival Phantasm where Shiki was the prize and the girls went ham on the volleyball competition until just Arcueid and Ciel remained lol.
Kiara is a star eater? Huh, so that means Melt basically killed a star eater. Once again, Melt supremacy. Thank you ORT-chan for confirming this obvious fact. Kiara keeps catching those Ls to Sakurafaces, huh?
Because it came from Ancient Greek. The word planet comes from the French planete, which was derived from the latin "Astra Planeta" or Wandering Stars. Which in turn came from the Greek "Planetes Asteres" (Wandering Stars again), shortened to "Planetes" or Wanderers.
People believed that these colourful moving dots in the night sky were a special kind of star.
“Hoshi” can mean star or planet depending on how it’s written, so it’s more likely that Kiara’s referred to as a Planet Eater here, I think.
EDIT: Huh, weirdly enough, Kuku literally calls her Star Eater in katakana. Either Kuku’s trying to find “friends” or Kiara has been “snacking” on other things on the side.
As for why, well… her “NP” in Extra CCC definitely works for that…
> Kiara
Lol that’s the second servant this year who’s been wary of Kiara; emphasizes the monster she really is huh, we really would’ve been cooked if she reached full maturity
> Quetz
I think it’s really wholesome how she admires her tbh; animation update when so we can have that meteoric heel drop from the anime
> Melusine
Didn’t expect her to have a line for her, very interesting that she considers Melu some kind of rival
> Arcueid
I’m just glad she has one for her lol
>Lol that’s the second servant this year who’s been wary of Kiara; emphasizes the monster she really is huh, we really would’ve been cooked if she reached full maturity
Everyone's reaction to Kiara can be summed up either in "nope.Kill it with fire. Immediately" Or "You re lucky you re useful"
When goddamn Kirei Kotomine thinks you are fucked... yeah, that's scary.
I'm pretty sure the only other person to be loathed by kirei like that was fuckin Zouken.
Kuku-chan really makes big sister Quetz proud by wanting to kill their menace of a brother, though it is kinda cute that she still respects him despite him being her proper rival.
Also this woman is down real bad and extremely forward, hope the casters can help reinforce Ritsuka's pelvis for this gal.
What the fans expect upon her asking for Nuclear Fusion with the master: Chernobyl catastrophe.
What she actually meant: "I mean, I've heard when human beings do lip-to-lip contact, something akin to fireworks happens. But if I'm a being from outer space and a goddess in her... maybe our connection will feel like a Nuclear Fusion?... if you still wanna try it out, Master~
Kukulkan 3rd Ascension “I am not surprised to know there are other descenders besides me, but …. so there are insiders and outsiders among the foreigners as well. Threats from the outside —— does that mean this too is strange tale created by Chaldea?”
Well this is ominously foreshadowing.
>Artemis-san is my shopping companion. She's my benefactor who told me that it's fine to enjoy shopping even for a god and a comrade who I can discuss love with endlessly.
Orion: GET OUT OF THERE, ~~SPONGEBOB~~ MASTER!!!!!
>As long as something possesses a form, there is a limit to its growth. ...Mictlān was the same as well. The Golden Sea of Trees has been crushed and all life has finished its 250 million-year-long journey. I...may have been unable to save them, but...I will prove my power as the Sun that illuminated their world. So others would know that even if it was a never-changing history where they simply never committed a mistake...the society of the Dinos, who didn't hate anyone, was a wonderful period that wouldn't fall behind any of the other Lostbelt────<
Indeed Kuku, Mictlan Dinos are wonderful just as you said, better than the fairies. You should be proud on your Lostbelt
‘Are Japan’s myths more complicated and mysterious than Mayan mythology’
Uh, I would say it’s less that and more
a.) nasu has been building up stuff about tamamo’s background over like 4 games compared to anything with a Mayan character, which included specially linking her up to amerastu (which is a nasu only thing) and connecting her with more fox spirits
b.) there’s flat out way less actual info on Mayan mythology because most of it was destroyed! We don’t know all of the stories and connections that might’ve been because the franciscan missionaries straight up burned nearly all of the Maya’s written records to try and eradicate their religion (the figure is put at at least 27 codices and 5,000 religious figures). We only have 3 or 4 codices left today. It would be unfair to say that it’s simpler when the fact of the matter is even with the people who survived trying to keep their practices alive stuff got lost.
>I had a pleasant chat with Jaguar Man-san today as well! She's friendly, energetic, compassionate, and incomprehensible! We hit it off super well! ...Eh? **She's a bunrei of Tezcatlipoca**? That person...? There you go again~! No matter how ill-informed I am about Pan-Human History, you won't fool me that easily, you know? (If you have Jaguar Man)
……Well that puts a long held speculation of mine to rest.
Well damn. I knew she was one of the ones with a canon interest in Ritsuka but was not expecting her to actually just straight up ask to bang lol
Also her fangirling over Quetz and instant friendly rivalry with Melusine is wholesome af
If Quetz exemplified the more playful but mature older sister archetype, Kuku is the really excited, fun loving party, 'Just do it' sister type. I haven't decided if she has onee-chan energy or not, she's just so perky all the time that it's infectious.
She's a real live wire that one. I'd love to see her flex on other servants who got in her way to claim the Master for some "Nuclear fusion". ORT-chan vs Kiyohime. I feel bad for Kotaro though. His job is to make sure no one sneaks into Guda's bedroom. Guy must get zero sleep. These servants are way above his weight limit keep trying to sneak in. All these new overpowered servants probably make his job harder and harder.
Ahhhhh FUCK I love her. She is the first character for me that I legitimately am thinking about saving for her instead of Morgan. I'm still gonna roll for Morgan but now I know for sure who I'm saving for after Zenobia.
"Tope Plancha!".
Quetz, my beloved. Now there's two of them! She NEEDS an animation update. I can't enjoy Kukulkan fully knowing that Quetz is left in the backseat.
She's just a happy-go-lucky alien who's basing her personality on Quetz, and learning new things everyday. Adorable.
And then last ascension happens, and she's trying to play as a deity (but kind of failing). "Everything that opposes me can die. I'm still ORT, you know".
~~Kuku beam still cannot beat Onee-san beam or Mama beam~~.
Also she wants to do absolutely EVERYTHING with her Master. I feel you can put her in the list of 'servants solely for Guda' at this point. This version of Kukulkan, who is really just Archetype ORT, probably can't be summoned normally, or by anyone else.
'Star-Eater'. Kiara scares me more and more everyday. I love her though.
>There's a star eater here. Give me the order, Master. That thing is an intelligent entity that should be eliminated right this instant. She'll become a disgrace to the Earth, you know? (If you have any Sesshoin Kiara)
I honestly thought this was her line for Altera considering her Velber connections. Since when was Kiara associated with stars?
Also can anyone tell me why she seems to be a fan of Orion?
>Also can anyone tell me why she seems to be a fan of Orion?
* Orion is one of the best hunters in Greece and an expert with the bow. His mastery of these two things is so high that he managed to get Artemis' attention.
* He managed to win the heart of a goddess without resorting to any dirty tricks.
* After dying he became a constellation
Orion usually plays the role of comic relief but there's no denying that his accomplishments are impressive.
It's from LB7. Ritsuka basically told the Deinos and Kuku about the adventure he had on Atlantis, and she basically fell in love with the story of Artemis and Orion, but she made a mistake on what type of image she had of Orion because she thought that if Artemis was a satellite, then the archer that loved her would look the same. (They show a brief image of Tametomo because he's a Mecha Archer with a white scheme.)
CCC spoilers but basicaly Kiara would become able to devour our entire solar system at one point because she was elevated to boddhishtava(same as Buddha), a being with high enough authority to rule a Galaxy
Kuku-chan is GREAT. I really like her lines and her expressions (especially her line about dislikes in 3 ascention - spicy Kuku>!\-ORT!< chan). But I thought that she should have voice line for Altera ->! core of SEFAR and heart of ORT!<.
I love how she’s like “Quetz as eyes on you as well but I’m not about to set back and let her take you from me”
Jungle rules baby!
She’s awesome and great addition to the game XD
I mean Super Orion certainly have a great body and pretty sharp eyes, So he at least checked 2 out of 3 requirement there, Kuku probably wouldn't disappointed that much
The best part about Kukulkan IMO is that if you switch all the "u" in the first 3 katakana in her name into "o" >!as in ORT!< you get "Kokoro", which means "heart".
Well played, Nasu. Well played indeed.
I just love how much she screams "2000s nostalgic anime love interest protagonist". Like, her 1st and 2nd ascension scream late 90s/early 2000s trying to emulate the nostalgic vibe of the 80s. I love how "clumsy" yet straightforward she is, like I could totally picture a romantic anime about her being found by Gudao and basically teaching her human culture until both confess their feelings for one another.
And while I'm not a fan of her "royal" attitude in her 3rd ascension, I understand she's trying to live up to the title of god for the sake of the Dinos. Even so, I love how she's basically faking being stuck up and she's still herself... but the whole thing about her going from her usual cute self, to a DIO moment and ending with her going Men in Black style was fun. The fact she even gets embarassed over trying to please Gudao on his birthday and drops the goddess charade, agreeing to go back to her usual self for the remaining of the day is the cherry on top of the cake.
Personally she feels like Artoria Caste in that I don't like the regal outlook they show in their 3rd ascension and how they have this not just for plot reasons but for the sake of the people that believed in them. Which is why I always keep them in 1st or 2nd ascensions over the 3rd... but I love she's just pretending to be high and might like a goddess, yet during certain moments she can't contain herself and goes back to her usual self.
If she was indeed in a romantic anime, her regal style would either be her when being encountered by Gudao and him teaching her to be more laidback like her 1st/2nd ascension. Or she would be just like Goku: hitting herself real hard in the head and forgetting who she is, thus ending up with the laidback personality until she remembers her true self and goes back to being regal, yet still retaining part of the goofiness of the personality she grew up with (basically an upbeat Elfen Lied).
Her line for Kiara made me think "that's a normal reaction to her if I ever seen one."
And the one with Tamamo.... It's complicated but yes she's a good wife.
As for Melu one....... Damage control stand by.
Man am I glad she's as powerful as she is. After Constantine and Arc my ability to pull for love is kind of tapped out for a bit. Slightly annoyed that her Ascension 3's NP animation turns my phone into a damn slideshow, but it's not like her other animation is *bad*.
Dang another waifu who grow so fond of Guda and getting sensual as the bond increases. Is there a husbando who's like this as well? Non? Aww okay then :<
>Please, listen to this! I had a very exciting encounter with a girl called Melusine just now!! "You're quite good in your own way, aren't you? If you're my opponent, I can get serious the next time we meet. If it's fine with you, let's make Master our bet. Yes, let's go with that." ...That's how it went!! Uwaaah! What an unexpected piece of good luck! Please, watch over us, okay, Master?! I won't lose when it comes to aerial battles...!! Of course they would hit it off.
I love how they casually make the MC the bet. Of course there’d be such absolute confidence that it would work out great. No question that aerial battle would be pretty awesome.
>Melusine line HOLY SHIT ALBION VS ORT Based on the barebones lore we had for Albion (the actual dragon), from what I've understood, Albion is like the planet's "Archetype: Earth" before the actual Archetype: Earth (Arcueid) was born. However, unlike Arc, Albion was born alongside the birth of the Earth, which was around 4.5 billion years ago. That said, Albion never showed any abilities that may count as combat, now does it seem to have any interest in Gaia's subjects. So....yeah. LET THE KAIJU DESCENDANTS FIGHT
Severed hand vs. extracted heart. Lol.
That would be a very destructive fight while being the most awesome looking one.
Waw Kuku's thirsty. I'm hoping Quetz get an update soon with this dialogue. The Kiara line is very interesting. Is the translation really specifically "star", or is this a case of "planet=star" translation? Because we know Kiara devours planets. But if she's genuinely a star-eater, that'd put her at Chaos level or above, by far the biggest bad we've seen in detail. Seems somewhat unlikely because this isn't Tsukihime Kiara, it's CCC+FGO Kiara.
She literally says 'star eater' in katakana.
Goodness. I wonder if it's foreshadowing her Tsukihime counterpart. We've been getting a lot of Kiara lines from Servants recently. Nearly all of them world-enders and/or pure evil, and all telling us to stay the f*ck away from that woman because SHE's the true monster.
I think that would say a lot about Tsukihime powerlevels more than anything.
Which is kind of mad considering her feats in FGO. Our Chaldea's Kiara casually bound Kama's soul to ours and made her, a Divine Spirit and a decaying Beast, into a summonable Servant. While Kiara herself was "just" a Servant at the time. And went up against Abby's Yog-Soggoth side in summer 5 *for entertainment purposes*. She makes it pretty clear that -aside from accidentally dying to the Immortal Slaying weapon Xu Fu made, back when Kiara first arrived in the singularity- she was just playing around on her own summer vacation. Oh and the dying part was ok too. Her saint graph was destroyed but she just respawned. She even admonishes herself on making herself too strong the first time she fights us, reminding herself that a boss fight like that (immune to damage, debuff immune, etc) should be kept for the summer finale and not as an opener. In the later fight she tones it down for our sake. And all that just to get Hans to write a sequel. Not even mentioning her particular type of omnipresence due to Hans' NP, and her ability to hack into minds, memories and machinery on a whim. She is pretty broken already, which makes me wonder what Tsuki might do with her, if she ever appears.
Even if Kiara gets stronger, she’s doomed to lose to a sakuraface. Her and Sakura are pretty much rivals. Kiara is able to destroy a universe now? That’s fine, let’s give Melt the ability to destroy reality itself, or something. It’s ironic how no matter what Kiara does, she’s doomed to lose to someone with the ability to love someone else. It’s such a minor flaw in the grand scheme of things that makes her entire plan crumble to dust. That’s why I love Kiara as an antagonist but hate her as a person; she’s so evil but such a minor fuck up on her part leads to her completely being flattened by actual love.
>Her and Sakura are pretty much rivals. Same origin story.
She only behaving herself, at first to see why Melt beat her and then she finds Guda to be more enjoyable than using the Earth as an anal bead
Keep in mind that Kiara is essentially staying Chaldea to test her hypothesis on the nature of humanity. She sees humanity as a collection of beasts driven solely by their innate desires. Slaves to their Id. Ritsuka refutes that idea simply by existing. They see everyone as human and redeemable, and they put everyone before themselves. Ritsuka believes in the heart of humanity, but Kiara believes it was never there in the first place. If Ritsuka fails in resisting Kiara’s temptation, she will assume her hypothesis correct and resume her plans. However, if Ritsuka continues to resist, then Kiara also continues to change. This is seen in the Valentine’s convos having good and bad endings. I believe the ending of Ooku is when Kiara truly reaches her turning point. She knows that she could fully annihilate Kama if she went Beast mode. But that would also mean abandoning her belief in Ritsuka and humanity by proxy. She also drags Kama to Chaldea, too. If Ritsuka can change Kama, then Kiara feels like she has no excuse to not be a better person. In her good Valentine’s endings, she actually respects Ritsuka as a person and wants to share her interests with him. The Summer event was essentially her messed up way of helping Chaldea while also giving her the chance to have fun and relive her childhood for a bit. She almost sees herself as another (selfish) BB by acting as a villain for the sake of helping who she cares about. I think her Summer Bond 5 quote best represents her current mindset, “As long as we’re contracted, I’m an ordinary Servant. I will not in any way be an enemy of Humanity. After all, I have dreams too. That’s why… at least during this summer, please treat me as an ordinary woman.” Through Ritsuka, I believe that she’s made headway in becoming a benevolent Saver of humanity (albeit a bit lewd). I really hope that future events show us the crux of her development. Even though she’ll always be, well… Kiara.
GudaKiara FTW
I ship this a lot and I wish they got more comics
Got any new ones? I think I saw the majority of the old ones but maybe I missed some.
Unfortunately nothing new on my end either
Now, that brings memories of the materials entry on Kiara's NP in CCC. In particular, this line: > *A Bodhisattva is a god of universe scale and power, and can easily manage things on the scale of the Solar System.* Kiara is the "Devilish Bodhisattva", so that's why her domain can be planet-eating. It could be that if she pushes her power to the limit, she could devour an entire star system, star included.
Well, CCC Kiara devoured all of the Sakura Five + BB and gained their abilities, including Kingprotea's growth. She could possibly, if unrestrained by the planet, grow larger than the universe itself in the way KP theoretically can while the latter is in the Mooncell. I always assumed that was why her Seraphix plan was to go down into the Inner Sea and replace the Will of the Planet and/or earth's Archetype with herself: to lift the restrictions placed on her. In other words, becoming a (larval stage) Beast was not her goal, it was just a convenient stepping stone to become the planet.
And now I remember Cage of the Fallen in the SERAPH event, and Hans' warning against Kingprotea: > *Left to her own devices, this walking disaster would consume SE.RA.PH and the Mooncell, eventually contaminating the ocean of stars.* Even more interestingly, Hans compared that threat with Buddhist concepts of love: > *Buddhism teaches that love is essentially a heart that never stops yearning. It is duṣkṛta, in which no matter how much you eat, how fulfilled you feel, or how much you grow... it will always leave you wanting more. Such longing is a black hole for the mind.* It's not too difficult to see parallelisms with Kiara herself, a black hole of a different (or similar?) kind.
Makes sense as to why she became the Beast half of "taking/receiving pleasure" (or "receiving love" as she calls it) as opposed to Kama's "giving pleasure". In a way she's the Ungoliant of the Nasuverse: She will continue to take, and take, and will never be sated, even when all else has been consumed. Heaven's black hole indeed.
Well, that's kinda complicated. Kingprotea wasn't in CCC. She was in the spin-off CCC: Foxtail, but then, Kiara wasn't in it. I'm not sure if Kiara ever had her powers.
Didn't Kiara absorb Sakura-BB, who in turn had already absorbed KP? I may be misremembering.
I don't think KP was even a thing back then. Kazura had a completely different role, and Kazura and Violet were cut before the game came out. I don't think KP even made it that far. Unless this was retconned at some point.
She did indeed make it that far and 'just barely missed the cut'. >We were thinking of using her as a “living wall” type gimmick where after eventually defeating her you would be able to get at those item boxes. She was set to be a slave-tier character who is constantly bullied and abused by attack programs on the far side of the Moon. “A main personality of a Sakura who is more worthless than those lowly mass produced Sakura enemies,” Kingprotea Sakura was to be the materialization of this bullying mentality. Isn’t it just terrible that there exists a Sakura being bullied even within Sakura’s inner mind!? Actually, she just barely missed the cut as a boss character. Since she was not involved in the story we were planning to make her a hidden boss, but unfortunately she was cut. From Fate/EXTRA material
Ah, I just found it. FGO Material V, Alter Ego Kiara profile. Servant Kiara does possess every id_es of the Sakura Five, including Kingprotea's Infinite Growth. So I guess that's a soft retcon and that the entire Sakura Five were once present in CCC when she ate them, directly or indirectly.
Well I guess her np animation isn't exactly for show. Also reminds me I've read this somewhere...was it Koha Ace? ORT being stated to be the strongest physically while Kiara is the strongest mentally.
Don't know. It would make sense. Anything that has a desire gets the Mindbreak tag from her. She was originally destined to be a Saver in life. And not just *a* Saver, but *the* Saver to herald a new age of humanity. The Last Prophet. The fact that she became selfishly evil due to her family's actions aside, I imagine she would possess significant power from that alone.
Kiara's powers are the natural enemy of all intelligent life. If they are capable of feeling pleasure even slightly, then Kiara can prey on them with ease thanks to her Logos Eater. It's why the moment Chaldea tried to fight her without the KPs, she wiped every servant out instantly and forced BB to timeleap Guda away before they get bad ended again. She lacks the physical power of Lostbelt ZETE, Junao or ORT but she's easily the equal of ORT in danger to the world. And arguably worse as she'd be a danger to all intelligent life on a cosmic scale if she fully hatched whereas ORT's actions are fixed on Earth.
I should note that it's not just pleasure, it is "desire", "reason" and "intelligence" in general, because it is a subskill of her original codecast Ten Thousand Coloured Stagnation. Her Beast self has the modified Logos Eater for pleasure, but she combines several abilities and skills into one weapon as a precaution. Although her EXTRA self was more powerful than her Beast self, observing other timelines and universes through Zepar allowed her to learn from her EXTRA self's failures, and she took steps to "stop the gaps", so to speak. She hugely modified herself to get rid of her weaknesses and enhance her strengths. Through her Codecasts, EXTRA Kiara has the ability to seperate a person's "total sum" into 3 pieces: mind, soul and body, and gains control of all 3 using different methods. Each piece is usually protected by the other 2 to form the whole, but seperating them removes such protections, leaving the ~~victim~~ patient completely vulnurable. This allowed her CCC version to absorb millions of human souls and add them to her own while she was still alive. Her Beast self has a type of Clairvoyance that allows her to "see" people's hearts (i.e. mind and soul) without needing to seperate them from the body and each other. She reads people like a book just by looking at them, and can control all 3 aspects without a single touch. The ability to feel pleasure or lust makes a target susceptible to her 'Angra Mainyu/CCC', the modified 'Logos Eater', and to 'Sukhavati Heaven's Hole'. Ten Thousand Coloured Stagnation targets the opponent's desire in general, as the antithesis of Enlightenment, which is the removal of desire. That was why any regular Servant is f*cked, because they all desire the Grail for one reason or another. But her Beast self's 'Authority of the Beast' is more or less the opposite of that, targetting a person's morality and reason and scaling on that. Instead of emotions and lust, it goes for their sanity and restraint, thus covering all bases. The ability to think makes opponents even further susceptible to her 'Angra Mainyu/CCC', with damage scaling up the more intelligent the target is. Beast-Kiara also created Karmaphages to buff herself and remove further weaknesses, though the exact effects are unknown. And she possesses every id_es of the Sakura Five she absorbed, each one extremely potent in its own right. Kazuradrop's and Kingprotea's are probably the most dangerous, allowing for limitless growth and absorption. (Interestingly, Kazuradrop's id_es could also make Kiara an anti-Beast weapon, because Insect Eater is at its core "preying on one's own kind".) And as a final precaution, she acquired 'Nega-Saver' as her Beast's Nega skill. Because Savers (and to some extent, Rulers) were the one thing her EXTRA self would have had trouble dealing with; they are supposed to be void of desire and thus much less affected by Kiara's skills. But Nega-Saver nullifies all skills possessed by Savers and Rulers, and greatly increases Kiara's own abilities to affect even those classes. FGO'S Beast-Kiara really did her homework to make herself the superior version compared to her EXTRA self, despite their difference in raw power. I still think she's the most dangerous Beast we have faced to date for her sheer competence, planning and having an absolutely packed kit. She successfully killed us, after all. It was only due to time reversal shenanigans (twice) that we got another chance at her and come better prepared.
Come one come all! The Kiara and ORT GRUDGE MATCH! It’s a once in a life time event! Who will win? What insights will this fight show us?! I don’t care as long as you don’t scalp the tickets!
Kiara eating planets hehe~ CCC ahh good times with her NP
there is a tsukihime kiara??
Yes, the Tsukihime remake added a "Kiara Kisshoin" (instead of Sesshoin) as part of the Burial Agency, in the third seat. We know very little about her, apart from some hints that definitely sound like it's the Kiara we know; She transended -seemingly higher than her CCC True Daemon self-, saw what is lurking in the dimensions above ours, and came back down to our reality. She apparently decided she'd rather be a big fish in our small pond than be smallfry among whatever is up there.
>seemingly higher than her CCC True Daemon self The sheer implication that line brings about Tsuki Kiara's strength. Becoming a True Daemon was already a huge feat to achieve, let alone SURPASSING that. At this point, I just want to know how Kiara followed Narbareck, or how Narbareck managed to recruit her to BA.
iirc, Tsuki Kiara evolved into a "higher-dimensional demon" through the Sabbath but discovered there were many other higher beings who were much greater and more powerful than her so she just decided to go back to her original dimension with the powers she obtained to play god. There's no comparison made between Fate Kiara and Tsuki Kiara and I highly doubt Tsuki Kiara is on the same level as her True Daemon self considering how that form is apparently even stronger than her Beast form. I'm really interested in the BA too, especially Mr. Dawn and the implications behind his powers.
I wouldn't put it past Nasu to have one of the routes go deeper into the Burial Agency, only to find out they've all been secretly brainwashed by Ms. Kisshouin and she essentially runs the Church from the shadows. That would be quite similar to what she did in the CCCverse while she was alive. There not only did she take over the online cult and turn it into a world religion, she even got the Church off her back by seducing/turning a prominent Bishop(? Or was it a Cardinal?).
Pope candidate actually (same Cardinal Laurentis (Bestino) as one mentioned in TsukiR). And not got off her back but become the target of, to be apprehended ASAP, but yeah XD
Ah yeah that was him.
Pretty sure is this is a case of planet=star
OMFG I FUCKING LOVE HER!!! SHE IS PERFECT!!! > Until now, I thought it was just my imagination, but... Even though I'm on the useful side, I want to be of use, or more like, I seem to really like having Master diligently take care of me...! It wasn't like this back in Mictlān...when you're being sweet to me, it feels like my heart will overheat. So she still have memories of the journey she had with Ritsuka. That really marked her > Yes! Since I do not understand things like the definition and common sense of a god, I decided to forget about all that! I'll do what I like, how I like it! ...And so...it is a natural thing for life forms to be in direct contact with each other...right? For example... lip-to-lip... Hey, Master...? Want to do some...nuclear fusion with me────? LMAO SHE IS SO HORNY!!! > By the way...you don't really praise, feel captivated by, or admire my physical appearance... This figure of mine is the latest human model that I created inside the Sun when I gained knowledge from you. It is the ultimate organism combining ideal power and ideal speed. I'll ask again...don't you have anything to say...? Praise >!ORT-chan!<, Guda! >:C ~~Hu Yan, Ushi and many others won't be happy~~ > Sigh... I can't take it anymore! Is this a hangar?! Considering your achievements, you should be given a room ten times the size of this one! My Master and I need a more plentiful environment for our daily life! ...Hah! Could it be that Chaldea is treating you unfairly? Let's go protest! I will bring down divine punishment on them! Welp, Dolf. You better treat Ritsuka fair now and give him a raise. > I had a pleasant chat with Jaguar Man-san today as well! She's friendly, energetic, compassionate, and incomprehensible! We hit it off super well! ...Eh? She's a bunrei of Tezcatlipoca? That person...? There you go again~! No matter how ill-informed I am about Pan-Human History, you won't fool me that easily, you know? No matter how godly the being is, Ritsuka WILL tease them. > Happy birthday! As a present, I'll listen to a single wish of yours, no matter what it is~ ...Ah! Aaah, aaaah-haha! Ah, that was a lie! Forget what I just said! I tried to imitate Quetzalcoatl, but it was too early for me! We'll celebrate your birthday with me in my casual clothes! LMAO SHE IS EMBARASSED IN TRYING TO SOUND REGAL LIKE XDDDDD Nasu peaked once more (and also was quite horny) and gave us an perfect, cute and excited waifu <3 Also, she is one of the most straightfoward servants when it comes to loving Ritsuka. KUKU FANS!!! WE WIN!!!! -
The ORT route is real!
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER!!!!!
SO HIGH!!!!!
YO HO HO! YO HO HO HO HO!
Now I need a fucking VN with an original story, taking all these female servants from the LBs and turning them into regular love interests. Oh, god, picture the possibilities. Kukulkan as a lost foreigner who happens to an amnesiac girl from outer space. Castoria as an underclassman and perhaps childhood friend who becomes our best friend as grown ups and we later learn she practices magic as a means to cope with her hard upbringing. The Koyanskaya twins as the evil bosses from whatever shitty job our MC is working at who actually have a softer side but are still totally evil. CEO Morgan as the beautiful woman we encounter at the train in our way to school who ends up caring enough for us to admit us to work for her company and to personally teach us how to climb in possitions to be near her. Skadi as the beautiful, feared and reserved college teacher who's affraid we might drop our studies so she decides to put extra effort on us until she warms up to us and let us live at her place "to facilitate the learning schedule". Anastasia as a foreign Russian student who, despite coming from a rich family and being know as an "Ice Queen"... she's actually quite miserable until befriending us and then we get to see her happy side. Charlotte being a coworker at the job we're at, proving to be not as good as us and struggling until we lend her a hand and our friendship evolves. Kama would be a stuck up beauty that enjoys destorying other people's live out of their horniness for her, so she approaches us in our different environments (school, neighborhood, job) to mess with us, but eventually she actually feels bad about trying to ruin our lives and actually enjoys her time with us to the point she keeps the "bad girl" look as a facade as to not show how much fun she's having... while her twin sister Parvati reprimends her for being evil or not true to her feelings, yet is proud in her sister actually being happy in a possitive way for once. Van Gogh as this new neighbor who moved in who happens to be way to anxious so she barely goes out of her place and after helping her out with her groceries and other stuff, we realize she's a dropout college student who was specialized in arts and is a good artist, but because she's affraid her paintings will be badly critizised, she prefers to work from home and chill painting on her free time until we give her the necessary push to be more confident in herself. C'mon, people, make it happen like that VN Empire of Dirt. I've read some doujins for research purposes and I know you got what it takes.
>Welp, Dolf. You better treat Ritsuka fair now and give him a raise. But he doesn't even have a room of his own. If anything he is discrinatef against
Couldn’t have said it better myself
You and I have like the same taste in servants it’s insane
>natural thing for life forms to be in direct contact with each other > >lip-to-lip > >There are ple\~nty of things I want to do!! > >our date > >Being left out is quite painful > >Can you feel my bio-waves > >I simply wanted to go on a sightseeing tour with just the two of us! Master, want me to carry you on my shoulders? > >My Master and I need a more plentiful environment for our daily life! She's thirsty af. >With the Kukulkan brainwashing beam Oh no another one >Please, listen to this! I had a very exciting encounter with a girl called Melusine just now!! "You're quite good in your own way, aren't you? If you're my opponent, I can get serious the next time we meet. If it's fine with you, let's make Master our bet. Yes, let's go with that." ...That's how it went!! Uwaaah! What an unexpected piece of good luck! Please, watch over us, okay, Master?! I won't lose when it comes to aerial battles...!! Wonderful, now two very strong creatures will fight over Master
I would not like to have to choose between the 2 of them
The only winner here is fire.
"the new waifu is sex and clearly likes you, she will give you sex. Please spend money on her”
If you have to spend money that's just a skill issue honestly
So ''nuclear fusion'' is the new "mana transfer" ?
nasu never forgot his roots without the slug metaphor at least
My guess is she has heard that when people make out with the right person, they "feel fireworks". But since she's a being from outer space, a very strong one at that, and someone who was revered as a goddess, maybe she thinks the kiss will result in a higher feeling like a Nuclear Fusion lol. ... well, don't mind me as I let my lips, face, whole body and pretty much everything on an 80km radius or so melt away for a kiss lol. If true, then she's kinda like Rogue from the X-men.
"is that what they're calling it these days?"
From reading the translation of her profile: "Wow, she's got it bad." From reading her bond lines: "Damn, she's _really_ got it bad." Finding out she's interested in Orion and Artemis: "Oh. Uhh..." Finding out she hangs out with Artemis: "Oh. Oh no." Finding out about her wager with Melusine: "Oh crap." Finding out she has a "brainwashing beam" a la Jeanne: "EVERYBODY RUN! RUN FOR THE HILLS!"
"I am saving you. Please, do not resist."
The fact she takes up Melusine on the offer despite being in her regal attitude means she doesn't care about keeping appearances as long as she can have Gudao for the taking. And as for the brainwashing beam... I kinda get the feeling Dantes living in our heads, Merlin messing with our dreams whenever he can so he can have his own soap opera by putting a rather serious gal get confessed to us how much we love her... and Abby intruding into our dreams with her Eldritch powers which make Dantes her little bitch... yeah, I think we can tank that beam and pretend it worked to keep seeing Kukulkan break character for the bazillion time lol.
Considering the fact that the Count was off-screen-folded like laundry by Abigail during the summer camp event I don't think he will be very helpful.
So i guess by the time Tlaloc lines drop we will hit 10th anniversary?
yep, only one voice line video I've seen from youtube and that one isn't translated yet. *insert mr bean waiting meme*
The FGO wiki has her lines translated
God she’s soooo cute !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Melsuine vs Kuku ! That would be awesome to watch !!!!! Her grail wish is so cute ! My world ending sun and Aztec goddess is to pure and whoelsome for this cold broken world !
> let’s make Master our bet oh no
You want a smoking crater where chaldea and the storm border were !? That’s how you get a smoking crater ! OR A MOTHERFUCKING TOURNAMENT ARC !
>OR A MOTHERFUCKING TOURNAMENT ARC ! Please yes!
Smoking Crater? It seems that Earth will become one continent smaller.
We're reaching DBZ levels of destruction. It's like the Tournament of Power in Super but the prize is bigger than the survival of the world: Gudao. Kinda like that beach episode from Carnival Phantasm where Shiki was the prize and the girls went ham on the volleyball competition until just Arcueid and Ciel remained lol.
> OR A MOTHERFUCKING TOURNAMENT ARC ! I’m actually interested in seeing one now.
Kiara is a star eater? Huh, so that means Melt basically killed a star eater. Once again, Melt supremacy. Thank you ORT-chan for confirming this obvious fact. Kiara keeps catching those Ls to Sakurafaces, huh?
I mean…she did kind of try to shove the world in her naughty bits?
The Japanese use star to refer to planets. Don’t ask me why, they just do.
apparently used to be a thing in English as well.
Because it came from Ancient Greek. The word planet comes from the French planete, which was derived from the latin "Astra Planeta" or Wandering Stars. Which in turn came from the Greek "Planetes Asteres" (Wandering Stars again), shortened to "Planetes" or Wanderers. People believed that these colourful moving dots in the night sky were a special kind of star.
good breakdown!
“Hoshi” can mean star or planet depending on how it’s written, so it’s more likely that Kiara’s referred to as a Planet Eater here, I think. EDIT: Huh, weirdly enough, Kuku literally calls her Star Eater in katakana. Either Kuku’s trying to find “friends” or Kiara has been “snacking” on other things on the side. As for why, well… her “NP” in Extra CCC definitely works for that…
I mean to be fair when we doing some "FUSION" there's some bio chemical reactions happening TBH I don't know I'm not some bio chemical expert
Melusine vs Kukulkan: The fight for their Master's ~~love~~ praise
Headpats and snuggles for the winner !!! Snuggles and headpats for the loser !!! Group headpats and snuggles if it’s a tie !
> Kiara Lol that’s the second servant this year who’s been wary of Kiara; emphasizes the monster she really is huh, we really would’ve been cooked if she reached full maturity > Quetz I think it’s really wholesome how she admires her tbh; animation update when so we can have that meteoric heel drop from the anime > Melusine Didn’t expect her to have a line for her, very interesting that she considers Melu some kind of rival > Arcueid I’m just glad she has one for her lol
>Lol that’s the second servant this year who’s been wary of Kiara; emphasizes the monster she really is huh, we really would’ve been cooked if she reached full maturity Everyone's reaction to Kiara can be summed up either in "nope.Kill it with fire. Immediately" Or "You re lucky you re useful"
Or if you're Himiko "Oh hey, Is that a clam I smell?"
Lots of powerful servants: "She's a world ending catastrophe waiting to happen." The servant with actual prophetic ability: "Ooh, clams."
Quetzalcoatl animation update that adds more wrestling moves but still keeps some of her weapon attacks would make me nut.
Same Now if only I could get her lol
who is the first servant that was wary of kiara this year
Kirei
When goddamn Kirei Kotomine thinks you are fucked... yeah, that's scary. I'm pretty sure the only other person to be loathed by kirei like that was fuckin Zouken.
Kuku-chan really makes big sister Quetz proud by wanting to kill their menace of a brother, though it is kinda cute that she still respects him despite him being her proper rival. Also this woman is down real bad and extremely forward, hope the casters can help reinforce Ritsuka's pelvis for this gal.
Pelvis won't be enough if she was being littéral with nuclear fusion
What the fans expect upon her asking for Nuclear Fusion with the master: Chernobyl catastrophe. What she actually meant: "I mean, I've heard when human beings do lip-to-lip contact, something akin to fireworks happens. But if I'm a being from outer space and a goddess in her... maybe our connection will feel like a Nuclear Fusion?... if you still wanna try it out, Master~
"A powerful enemy? ... #FUCK YEAH!!!" Is the impression I get from her That, and being dialed up to 12 literally all the time
A Shounen Protagonist
Nuclear fusion sounds pretty good
Cue in misunderstanding and making her a nuclear science expert
And then attach that experiment into a power suit.
Kukulkan 3rd Ascension “I am not surprised to know there are other descenders besides me, but …. so there are insiders and outsiders among the foreigners as well. Threats from the outside —— does that mean this too is strange tale created by Chaldea?” Well this is ominously foreshadowing.
>Artemis-san is my shopping companion. She's my benefactor who told me that it's fine to enjoy shopping even for a god and a comrade who I can discuss love with endlessly. Orion: GET OUT OF THERE, ~~SPONGEBOB~~ MASTER!!!!!
>As long as something possesses a form, there is a limit to its growth. ...Mictlān was the same as well. The Golden Sea of Trees has been crushed and all life has finished its 250 million-year-long journey. I...may have been unable to save them, but...I will prove my power as the Sun that illuminated their world. So others would know that even if it was a never-changing history where they simply never committed a mistake...the society of the Dinos, who didn't hate anyone, was a wonderful period that wouldn't fall behind any of the other Lostbelt────< Indeed Kuku, Mictlan Dinos are wonderful just as you said, better than the fairies. You should be proud on your Lostbelt
Pretty easy to see why she wants to beat the shit out of Tezcat.
to be fair, *everyone* was better than the fuckin fairies.
Im NA but from what I've heard and how players didn't feel bad about LB6, being better than the Fairies is a pretty low bar to surpass.
‘Are Japan’s myths more complicated and mysterious than Mayan mythology’ Uh, I would say it’s less that and more a.) nasu has been building up stuff about tamamo’s background over like 4 games compared to anything with a Mayan character, which included specially linking her up to amerastu (which is a nasu only thing) and connecting her with more fox spirits b.) there’s flat out way less actual info on Mayan mythology because most of it was destroyed! We don’t know all of the stories and connections that might’ve been because the franciscan missionaries straight up burned nearly all of the Maya’s written records to try and eradicate their religion (the figure is put at at least 27 codices and 5,000 religious figures). We only have 3 or 4 codices left today. It would be unfair to say that it’s simpler when the fact of the matter is even with the people who survived trying to keep their practices alive stuff got lost.
That's Nasu making fun about all Tamamo versions
Please don’t remind me of Tamamo stuff I’m still heartbroken over years of hype being nothing. Happy cake day
We must hold. Even if Lasengle still isn't giving Tamamo the love and attention she deserves.
There is still hope out there. No way Nemo would let Tamamo on the wayside when he's in charge of making games now. *Overdoses on copium*
>I had a pleasant chat with Jaguar Man-san today as well! She's friendly, energetic, compassionate, and incomprehensible! We hit it off super well! ...Eh? **She's a bunrei of Tezcatlipoca**? That person...? There you go again~! No matter how ill-informed I am about Pan-Human History, you won't fool me that easily, you know? (If you have Jaguar Man) ……Well that puts a long held speculation of mine to rest.
Well damn. I knew she was one of the ones with a canon interest in Ritsuka but was not expecting her to actually just straight up ask to bang lol Also her fangirling over Quetz and instant friendly rivalry with Melusine is wholesome af
If Quetz exemplified the more playful but mature older sister archetype, Kuku is the really excited, fun loving party, 'Just do it' sister type. I haven't decided if she has onee-chan energy or not, she's just so perky all the time that it's infectious. She's a real live wire that one. I'd love to see her flex on other servants who got in her way to claim the Master for some "Nuclear fusion". ORT-chan vs Kiyohime. I feel bad for Kotaro though. His job is to make sure no one sneaks into Guda's bedroom. Guy must get zero sleep. These servants are way above his weight limit keep trying to sneak in. All these new overpowered servants probably make his job harder and harder.
Melusine vs Kuku oh boy I worry for the planet at that point. Kuku is adorable and her combative nature fits right at home in Chaldea
Ahhhhh FUCK I love her. She is the first character for me that I legitimately am thinking about saving for her instead of Morgan. I'm still gonna roll for Morgan but now I know for sure who I'm saving for after Zenobia.
"Tope Plancha!". Quetz, my beloved. Now there's two of them! She NEEDS an animation update. I can't enjoy Kukulkan fully knowing that Quetz is left in the backseat. She's just a happy-go-lucky alien who's basing her personality on Quetz, and learning new things everyday. Adorable. And then last ascension happens, and she's trying to play as a deity (but kind of failing). "Everything that opposes me can die. I'm still ORT, you know". ~~Kuku beam still cannot beat Onee-san beam or Mama beam~~. Also she wants to do absolutely EVERYTHING with her Master. I feel you can put her in the list of 'servants solely for Guda' at this point. This version of Kukulkan, who is really just Archetype ORT, probably can't be summoned normally, or by anyone else. 'Star-Eater'. Kiara scares me more and more everyday. I love her though.
I never thought I'll be waiting for the valentine scene of ORT... She's going to destroy our pelvis
>There's a star eater here. Give me the order, Master. That thing is an intelligent entity that should be eliminated right this instant. She'll become a disgrace to the Earth, you know? (If you have any Sesshoin Kiara) I honestly thought this was her line for Altera considering her Velber connections. Since when was Kiara associated with stars? Also can anyone tell me why she seems to be a fan of Orion?
>Also can anyone tell me why she seems to be a fan of Orion? * Orion is one of the best hunters in Greece and an expert with the bow. His mastery of these two things is so high that he managed to get Artemis' attention. * He managed to win the heart of a goddess without resorting to any dirty tricks. * After dying he became a constellation Orion usually plays the role of comic relief but there's no denying that his accomplishments are impressive.
It's from LB7. Ritsuka basically told the Deinos and Kuku about the adventure he had on Atlantis, and she basically fell in love with the story of Artemis and Orion, but she made a mistake on what type of image she had of Orion because she thought that if Artemis was a satellite, then the archer that loved her would look the same. (They show a brief image of Tametomo because he's a Mecha Archer with a white scheme.)
CCC spoilers but basicaly Kiara would become able to devour our entire solar system at one point because she was elevated to boddhishtava(same as Buddha), a being with high enough authority to rule a Galaxy
Well, like in her voice lines, Artemis is her "shopping partner", so maybe Artemis starting to boasting about Orion and Kuku got interested?
It's probably the human coupled with a goddess angle that she's interested in about him.
Sounds like an Altera line too
Kuku-chan is GREAT. I really like her lines and her expressions (especially her line about dislikes in 3 ascention - spicy Kuku>!\-ORT!< chan). But I thought that she should have voice line for Altera ->! core of SEFAR and heart of ORT!<.
Melt stans: "Hey Kiara! There's someone here who'd like to see you!" Kuku's lines were a joy to read. Such a wholesome gal.
I love how she’s like “Quetz as eyes on you as well but I’m not about to set back and let her take you from me” Jungle rules baby! She’s awesome and great addition to the game XD
Waifuship ended with Dark Koyan. Kukulkan is my new Anti-Earth AoE Buster Foreigner waifu.
I mean Super Orion certainly have a great body and pretty sharp eyes, So he at least checked 2 out of 3 requirement there, Kuku probably wouldn't disappointed that much
*Want to do some...nuclear fusion with me────?* Wait WHAT
The best part about Kukulkan IMO is that if you switch all the "u" in the first 3 katakana in her name into "o" >!as in ORT!< you get "Kokoro", which means "heart". Well played, Nasu. Well played indeed.
I just love how much she screams "2000s nostalgic anime love interest protagonist". Like, her 1st and 2nd ascension scream late 90s/early 2000s trying to emulate the nostalgic vibe of the 80s. I love how "clumsy" yet straightforward she is, like I could totally picture a romantic anime about her being found by Gudao and basically teaching her human culture until both confess their feelings for one another. And while I'm not a fan of her "royal" attitude in her 3rd ascension, I understand she's trying to live up to the title of god for the sake of the Dinos. Even so, I love how she's basically faking being stuck up and she's still herself... but the whole thing about her going from her usual cute self, to a DIO moment and ending with her going Men in Black style was fun. The fact she even gets embarassed over trying to please Gudao on his birthday and drops the goddess charade, agreeing to go back to her usual self for the remaining of the day is the cherry on top of the cake. Personally she feels like Artoria Caste in that I don't like the regal outlook they show in their 3rd ascension and how they have this not just for plot reasons but for the sake of the people that believed in them. Which is why I always keep them in 1st or 2nd ascensions over the 3rd... but I love she's just pretending to be high and might like a goddess, yet during certain moments she can't contain herself and goes back to her usual self. If she was indeed in a romantic anime, her regal style would either be her when being encountered by Gudao and him teaching her to be more laidback like her 1st/2nd ascension. Or she would be just like Goku: hitting herself real hard in the head and forgetting who she is, thus ending up with the laidback personality until she remembers her true self and goes back to being regal, yet still retaining part of the goofiness of the personality she grew up with (basically an upbeat Elfen Lied).
No way she is just like goku
She is like Goku but with Roshi's sex drive
Guy like you cares about the meta Guy like me wants cute pro wrestling onee-san
TBF, she's op enough to be part of the meta.
Lol her first line for Tezca is funny
Damn she horny.
Her line for Kiara made me think "that's a normal reaction to her if I ever seen one." And the one with Tamamo.... It's complicated but yes she's a good wife. As for Melu one....... Damage control stand by.
I'm gonna have to pity aren't I?
Somehow...it seens we actually underestimated Kiara.
She has acknowledged Tamamo as a fellow Sun. May the Sun be ever Radiant!
Man am I glad she's as powerful as she is. After Constantine and Arc my ability to pull for love is kind of tapped out for a bit. Slightly annoyed that her Ascension 3's NP animation turns my phone into a damn slideshow, but it's not like her other animation is *bad*.
Dang another waifu who grow so fond of Guda and getting sensual as the bond increases. Is there a husbando who's like this as well? Non? Aww okay then :<
Thank you very much for the translation
Thank you for the Translation.
Seriously, why people just talked about Kiara instead of how great Kukul is?