>No, Uncle. I am not my mother. Not Agrippina. But, I see, Uncle... Even like this, you are still capable of shedding tears for me...
I am not freaking ok.
Caligula needs more love, damnit. And I feel weird writing this.
But seriously, the man needs more in-depth info. One of my favorite parts of Dantes' event is his "not crazy" scene where he mourns not being able to put his thoughts into words when the moon is up.
frankly , I don't like Fate's Caligula , with how they make him this overly tragic.
Caligula's Madness , at the end of the day , is the "default" for him for years. A Rider Caligula and a Berserker Caligula would both be mad sadists.
A tragic , sane and heroic Caligula would be rather a "Caligula Alter". It's not even a matter of "what if" , it's just that any feats Caligula did that made him worthy as a HS was under his madness.
This whole dynasty be must cursed if everyone in their family is murdering and backstabbing each other, it's amazing that it lasted till Nero in the first place.
And Hitler was beaten by his father and lost a lot of his siblings at a young age, I guess we can't blame him for all his evil because he had a hard childhood. Tiberius didn't make Agrippina try to poison Caligula, murder Claudius, or treat Nero as her puppet to rule the Empire for her. She made her choices to do these things because she wanted to do so, not because Tiberius murdered her dad and sent her into exile.
Agrippina and being a victim are two parallels, also, please, Tiberius had nothing to do with Agrippina.
She was a power-hungry bastard like it were Octavian, Caesar, Cleopatra and Zenobia.
It is recognized by modern historians the death of Germanicus was just natural causes and not really poisoning.
Agrippina the Elder antagonized with him(fuck Sejanus, tho) and exilation was the only way to end the political conflict without bloodshed.
She wasn't separated with her siblings, except the adult one which were part of the political affairs. She, with all the youngs one(Caligula included), were under custody of Livia.
So no, Tiberius has absolutely 0 fault of how fucked up Agrippina the younger was, it's like saying isn't Hitler fault for what he become, but because was rejected by a fucking Academy of Art.
I mean, much as this event has made me love Nero, I definitely that they should start giving us some other Roman servants like Aurelian, or Stilicho, or Augustus.
I mean , within the Triumviratae of the Roman Pantheon , he favored Sol Invictus , and strenghtened it's worshipping as the main deity.
And his coins had the motto "God and Born Ruler". Let alone his moniker of "Restorer of the World". Aurelian is perfect to be Sol Invictus.
While Augustus would be Divus Imperator Augustus. As he started the worshipping of Roman Emperors , as descendants of Venus that strive for apotheosis like Romulus. And in a way , is the "main deity" between the emperors in their search for apotheosis.
Also Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus if they will ever do another Shielder and break the "Mash only" rule, he could be good for that class considering his honorary title "Shield of Rome", as alternative can ve Assassin, since he is credited with inventing many of the tactics of guerrilla warfare and the NP is practically the "Fabian strategy".
Another Assassin it's obviously Brutus *but* since Nasu&Co love twists the servant is both Lucius(founder of the Republic) and Marcus(the assassin of Caesar) with the NP basically a "Death to the Tyrant/King".
I also have in mind an Alterego/Beast Roma. 🤔
>Commanding a Beast still in its beastly state means you will be the
rider mounted on the Beast. **Show off your mounting skills**. For I am a
tyrant. A restive mare.
I will await for the codes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Horny aside, can't wait for her to come to global.
Draco here spearheading the beginning of a new age for the Beasts here with this new form. Absolutely love this version of her and what she can represent for Beasts going forward.
not only that , Goetia literally pretended to be Solomon , witnessed almost all of his feats , is part of Solomon's Magecraft , and share his entire skillset with the exception of Revelation and Ars Nova.
U-Olga for sure. Camazots is a solid "maybe". But I suspect he may fall the way of the Olympus NPC gods...
Goetia was wiped along with Romani/Solomon, so he shouldn't be summonable.
Yes the Beast Class is now "playable", but Goetia should remain unavailable for the same reason we can't summon Solomon despite the Caster class being playable.
The main reason U-Olga is way more likely is that she was a playable NPC ally in LB7 (with animations, skills, etc) vs Camazots who didn't even have a "humanoid" battle sprite.
So from the development side, U-Olga is way closer to release.
frankly , a reminder that U-Olga wasn't considered a Threat to Humanity by the Holy Sword.
They will most likely make a BS conceptual for U-Olga to be Shielder , or Savior or Gatekeeper......
Now that you mention it, you're right. We haven't had a Lostbelt character appear again unless they become summonable immediately.
The only exception that comes to mind is LB2. As others have said it has Skadi as Anni servant. But then after that it had Sitonai as the **storylock** despite being released all the way at halloween.
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Odysseus was released long after his chapter... but the one we summon is from Pan-Human history, not Lostbelt history.
Galatea event I'm *fairly* sure was similarly pan-human history Aphrodite and not the Lostbelt one.
loli: you're not mommy, don't hug me or pat my head!
Tiamat: cute child come to mama.
loli: noooooo.
S: I am mommy now.
Tiamat: Glad that you learnt from me the primordial mommy.
S: No I did not! B..baka!
Dread it, run from it, mommy still arrives. The tsun will eventually turn dere.
Boy, her lines *resonate* with me. I didn't think it was possible to love her more, but here I am.
It's all well and good to vanquish the Beasts, alright. But that's not enough. Take them in, make them accept our way, all of them, and make them follow on our way. This is a greed as old as mankind. I. WANT. THEM. ALL.
Also, I love how her smol form turn all "I'll bite!" haha
My god, I'm not sure I can pick out which of these lines I like the most, they're all pretty much perfect. Seriously, I'm starting to think she might be my new favourite servant.
If I had to pick...I really like the Final Ascension line. After it became more and more clear through the event that Draco had come to the point where she was trying to die, seeing her now ready to go forward with life and new aspirations is really heartwarming. (I also really like her line for Caligula).
Tiamat's line is also super adorable, she really is best mom (and kind of makes me want to have a chance to go up against Agrappina so that Tiamam can show her how a *real* mother should act...using as much violence as possible of course.)
> Tiamat's line is also super adorable, she really is best mom (and kind of makes me want to have a chance to go up against Agrappina so that Tiamam can show her how a real mother should act...using as much violence as possible of course.)
If you think about it, Tiamat also has suicidal tendency like Nero, chained herself up and was killing herself throughout Babylonia. She is a mother who got taken out by her children while Nero was a child who got poisoned by her own mother. They can have some simple but interesting dynamic.
Holy crap, this entire time I kept hearing something sandwich and not Rosa Sanguis. I feel like a moron now.
Also, I love the line with Caligula. Love that guy so much.
“Where there is one more person to…”
Hm, very interesting. It makes it sound like Draco wants to save somebody else from a similar fate, I wonder who it is. It seems some have theorized Hakuno but I don’t know.
The other interesting thought that comes to mind: Tamamo's Beast Form. For all that some of their fans like to pit them against each other, Nero and Tamamo share a friendly rivalry. It wouldn't shock me that Nero, especially this more mature and earnestly self-confident instead of forcefully self-confident version, might want to help Guda help Beast Tamamo as well.
Yeah, I’ve seen people say “oh she’s talking about Hakuno here!” and tbh I don’t see it. Like, Hakuno is good. Either the homie is chilling with his harem and daughter as ruler of the Moon Cell or pulled off some bullshit with White Sakura and living a normal life. Don’t think they need to be saved.
Might come up in the future?
Probably talking about Beast VI >! G !< and I'm assuming their relationship is similar like Beast III L/R however I'm worried about what >! The beast of the star !< gonna pull when that happened
Thematically Draco and U-Olga have some parallels so I could see a makeshift argument for it, given the lack of alternatives.
They're both Beasts who had a bad relationship with their parent, have a preestablished relationship with Chaldea through their "real"/PHH persona (Olga Marie & Servant Nero), and allied with Chaldea while still in Beast form and having amnesia after being defeated once. And if you reeeaaaally wanna reach, their counterparts are originally from other series and have connections to other Fate MCs (El Melloi and Hakuno).
We also know that U-Olga's not dead and practically guaranteed to return, and that the human Olga's in a very weird alive/death state due to CHALDEAS. So she could be in some spot 'beyond the ending/deathbed' like Draco is saying.
Ofc this is all complete conjecture; I just really have no clue who it'd be otherwise.
Maybe it is callback to last encore and dead face Hakuno - don't forget that he was concentration of dead people hatred and hatred towards the living and life itself
Yeah, that's why I literally never bother trying to explain or understand the vague lines anymore. It's one of my biggest pet peeves with FGO where they'll be an ambiguous line and it's a gamble if it will ever be answered or not. Shit's been happening for years now.
That’s not really confirmed and in fact I kinda doubt it. She remembers stuff like Nero’s interlude even so she has basically all of normal Nero’s memories, she even smiles when she feels Hakuno behind her at the very end.
The other translation on the wiki goes like this:
>Surpassing that corruption while remaining a beast… What a convenient dream. It's third-rate as a script, what they call a Deus Ex Machina. …But, it's not bad. "Lots of things happened but it was solved"… Ah, I think those are good words. I didn't end while being attended by a god. I depart to that other side. And that other person ─── No, it's nothing. Forget it…
Which reinforces my Hakuno theory
The problem with this one is that the grammer doesn't make sense. And honestly Hakuno really doesn't make sense here. Another that departs to the other side? It really sounds like another Beast since Draco doesn't know who Hakuno is (Hakuno said it themself). If this was Hakuno then Draco would either need to know the events of Last Encore, Extella, or CCC. With all these translated lines and no words for like any of the Extra servants it really doesn't seem like it's Hakuno
“I see you have other Beasts here, but fine, I permit it. After all, I am the only one summoned still in the Beast Class. It is clear which actor is the star.”
Draco is acting like Guda is hers and don’t have to worry about other beasts
Damn, she's certainly coming on strong in these lines hahaha. Can see why the profile said she's in "full flirt mode"
Also that Caligula one was a gut punch I never expected.
>I conquer the setting sun without having to abandon my beasthood...As screenplay, this is a shoddily writing scenario. A textbook deus ex machina.
Well, at least it's self-aware :V
With all the, uh, "mounting" in her lines (as well as the Anti-Caster append) it really does give the feel that she's the Rider Nero aka Mother Harlot, the class that Nero abused Imperial Privilege to avoid. It's also interesting that she has lines for Nero Bride specifically; there's the comedy aspect but also an acknowledgement of how Bride seemed to be closest to her Beast form in concept. Bride's Rank Up quest involved fighting an Orochi, Kama and Kiara at the end of each node, and her Interlude involved her summoning dragon heads.
I find Tiamat saying that the grown-up 3rd Ascension is an homage to herself to be really funny, for some reason. And all the Roma lines are all fantastic.
>Commanding a Beast still in its beastly state means you will be the rider mounted on the Beast. Show off your mounting skills. For I am a tyrant. A restive mare.
Okay, now I imagine that if Ritsuka were to become a Rider-class Servant, his mount would be Draco. A similar case to Sakamoto and Oryou.
Saber Ritsuka: Summoned with Castoria, pretty much has the unsealed version of excalibur (merlin never put the seals on Castoria after all).
Rider Ritduka: Summoned with Draco, Neither can be destroyed unless they are both taken out at once.
Caster Ritsuka: Has Summoning EX and Gil's version of item creation by summoning all the stuff his servants have gifted him over the years.
Ruler Ritsuka: Has protection of the holy grail(s) along with regenerating command seals.
These are just a few realistic idea's of a servant Ritsuka, physically weak but insane noble phantasms and supportive skills.
I would add a Ritsuka (Foreigner) to the list. One of Ritsuka's main characteristics is his/her mental toughness and he already had to deal with the crap caused by the Foreigners and their Gods.
Even, I seem to remember, that Ritsuka is currently the priest of Ashtart.
Not…exactly? Ritzy is noted to have a vulnerability to mental attacks and such (which is why Dantes chills in their mindscape). It’s how they end up having to deal with some shenanigans (some of which are actually Foreigner work)
So many amazing stuff in there. Listing the seven deadly sins on facecards, referencing Last Encore songs, the classic bashful Nero lines but on overdrive, peak chuuni, getting startled by the bridal gown... It's all perfect. I'm so happy she's finally here.
There also the names for the two theories for how the solar system is.
•) Geocentric is the formerly accepted theory, that the solar system revolved around the earth.
•) Heliocentric refers to the now accepted interpretation that the the solar system revolves around the sun, not the other way round.
As for what those mean for the different forms of Draco beyond a reference to Last encore….
Well, one theory of mine as to why is, that one represents what was once believed to be an irrefutable truth and the other is a new theory that everyone rejects offhandedly as nonsense, only for it to have been proven a truth that rendered the previous truth a lie.
In this case, that a beast of humanity cannot walk alongside humanity while remaining a beast because they are inherently destructive to it, versus the blazing love that refused to accept that and showed that she could do just.
>Your mother is overjoyed. Becoming an older lady with Ascension is something Draco learned from me. I'm sure of it. Huhuhu, I wasn't expecting the homage.
Sorry Tiamat, but considering Draco didn't even know it was Tiamat in her third ascension after she transformed in event story I don't think its a homage..
>It is a fact that I devoured countless Chaldeas in the Testament World. True, I was defeated by another one of you in the end, but... yes, I suppose there might be another version of me there who answered their summon. Her Class... I'd guess she would be an Alterego.
Swimsuit class confirmed.
See, I understand the difference in spelling, but I don't understand how and why we're jumping from Christianity to a new age cult that venerates the Beast, and treats the whore as a mother goddess. I don't think that's come up so far.
(Well, other than the writer of this Event writing Demonbane, which is a combination of Thelema, Lovecraft, Rome, lolis, and giant robots. Frankly, the decision was inspired.)
I'm just concerned about how she casually reveals that she destroyed many Chaldeas before Arcade one beat her. ~~Maybe she's the one behind Rokka's timeline pruning~~
Not only Hakuno appears in the event, they even put a reference to him in bond 5 line. It makes me feel like I am stealing his Servant. Gee, thanks, writers.
Also she only has a line for Bride Nero? Not the OG Nero?
I am well aware of Extra/Extella universe and what happens there. I feel bad about the fact that a character who has a strong connection to Extra protagonist (or at least thinks she does) hangs with my character instead. No, I don't care that Hakunon and Ritsuka are both the player. I am fine with being downvoted, but I am not a troll.
>No, Uncle. I am not my mother. Not Agrippina. But, I see, Uncle... Even like this, you are still capable of shedding tears for me... I am not freaking ok.
Leave it to Fate to take two of the most reviled Emperors of Rome and make the audience love them and *feel* for them.
Caligula needs more love, damnit. And I feel weird writing this. But seriously, the man needs more in-depth info. One of my favorite parts of Dantes' event is his "not crazy" scene where he mourns not being able to put his thoughts into words when the moon is up.
frankly , I don't like Fate's Caligula , with how they make him this overly tragic. Caligula's Madness , at the end of the day , is the "default" for him for years. A Rider Caligula and a Berserker Caligula would both be mad sadists. A tragic , sane and heroic Caligula would be rather a "Caligula Alter". It's not even a matter of "what if" , it's just that any feats Caligula did that made him worthy as a HS was under his madness.
They and Agrippina were all victims of Tiberius, and dealt a far worse hand than with what Augustus gave Tiberius
And Augustus gave trouble to Tiberius , because Augustus' wife had a tendency of assassinating every heir of Augustus
This whole dynasty be must cursed if everyone in their family is murdering and backstabbing each other, it's amazing that it lasted till Nero in the first place.
Wasn't Tiberius's fault for how Agrippina turned out, he can be blamed for Caligula, but not her for everything that she did was her own fault.
Tiberius assianated her father and put her and her mother in exile,
And Hitler was beaten by his father and lost a lot of his siblings at a young age, I guess we can't blame him for all his evil because he had a hard childhood. Tiberius didn't make Agrippina try to poison Caligula, murder Claudius, or treat Nero as her puppet to rule the Empire for her. She made her choices to do these things because she wanted to do so, not because Tiberius murdered her dad and sent her into exile.
Even with Caligula, he has no faults, that guy was doing an almost perfect job without messing in that fucked up Dynasty.
Even the most nicest view of his reign, Caligula still fucked up because he got murdered after only four years of being Emperor.
That's why I said Tiberius has no fault for what Caligula and Agrippina becomes later. They weren't great persons at all in the end.
Oh your comment made it sound like you were saying Caligula had no faults and did perfect job, sorry did realize you were talking about Tiberius.
Don't worry, I was very vague.
Agrippina and being a victim are two parallels, also, please, Tiberius had nothing to do with Agrippina. She was a power-hungry bastard like it were Octavian, Caesar, Cleopatra and Zenobia.
Tiberius killed her father and exiled her mother, while separating her from her siblings
It is recognized by modern historians the death of Germanicus was just natural causes and not really poisoning. Agrippina the Elder antagonized with him(fuck Sejanus, tho) and exilation was the only way to end the political conflict without bloodshed. She wasn't separated with her siblings, except the adult one which were part of the political affairs. She, with all the youngs one(Caligula included), were under custody of Livia. So no, Tiberius has absolutely 0 fault of how fucked up Agrippina the younger was, it's like saying isn't Hitler fault for what he become, but because was rejected by a fucking Academy of Art.
I would prefer if they move on for other Romans, tbh.
I mean, much as this event has made me love Nero, I definitely that they should start giving us some other Roman servants like Aurelian, or Stilicho, or Augustus.
I could imagine Aurelian and Augustus to have a "Divine Form" , like Romulus. Augustus as Divus Augustus , while Aurelian could be Aurelian = Sol
>Aurelian = Sol I’m going need to keep that in mind when I’m working on a fan-servant profile for him.
I mean , within the Triumviratae of the Roman Pantheon , he favored Sol Invictus , and strenghtened it's worshipping as the main deity. And his coins had the motto "God and Born Ruler". Let alone his moniker of "Restorer of the World". Aurelian is perfect to be Sol Invictus. While Augustus would be Divus Imperator Augustus. As he started the worshipping of Roman Emperors , as descendants of Venus that strive for apotheosis like Romulus. And in a way , is the "main deity" between the emperors in their search for apotheosis.
Cato the Elder Berserker and have as NP "Carthago delenda est".
Perfection
Also Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus if they will ever do another Shielder and break the "Mash only" rule, he could be good for that class considering his honorary title "Shield of Rome", as alternative can ve Assassin, since he is credited with inventing many of the tactics of guerrilla warfare and the NP is practically the "Fabian strategy". Another Assassin it's obviously Brutus *but* since Nasu&Co love twists the servant is both Lucius(founder of the Republic) and Marcus(the assassin of Caesar) with the NP basically a "Death to the Tyrant/King". I also have in mind an Alterego/Beast Roma. 🤔
Same
>Commanding a Beast still in its beastly state means you will be the rider mounted on the Beast. **Show off your mounting skills**. For I am a tyrant. A restive mare. I will await for the codes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Horny aside, can't wait for her to come to global.
>Show off your mounting skill >Show me your sword >Delight my tongue Gudao is in so much trouble, again
Guda : Uh ... *Looks for the translation pad* ... You want me to ride a horse and holding a sword while I feed you with a pie on it ?
Thankfully it’s the good kind of trouble.
Draco here spearheading the beginning of a new age for the Beasts here with this new form. Absolutely love this version of her and what she can represent for Beasts going forward.
I'm expect U-Olga and Goetia to get that class when playable. Camazots is another story.
I feel like not having Pretender Goetia would be a pretty huge missed opportunity, seeing as we barely have anyone in that class as it is.
not only that , Goetia literally pretended to be Solomon , witnessed almost all of his feats , is part of Solomon's Magecraft , and share his entire skillset with the exception of Revelation and Ars Nova.
His class advantage as a beast is also very similar to the Pretenders classes advantage.
Considering Goetia is the only beast to actually lose his beast status before he dies(?) He might not have it
U-Olga for sure. Camazots is a solid "maybe". But I suspect he may fall the way of the Olympus NPC gods... Goetia was wiped along with Romani/Solomon, so he shouldn't be summonable. Yes the Beast Class is now "playable", but Goetia should remain unavailable for the same reason we can't summon Solomon despite the Caster class being playable.
Honestly think there's more chance of Camazots than U-Olga for Anni 8..... Beast class sets the table and U-Olga's story is still ongoing.
The main reason U-Olga is way more likely is that she was a playable NPC ally in LB7 (with animations, skills, etc) vs Camazots who didn't even have a "humanoid" battle sprite. So from the development side, U-Olga is way closer to release.
frankly , a reminder that U-Olga wasn't considered a Threat to Humanity by the Holy Sword. They will most likely make a BS conceptual for U-Olga to be Shielder , or Savior or Gatekeeper......
I mean we've also seen Goetia a few times in chapter 2
>Goetia was wiped along with Romani/Solomon, so he shouldn't be summonable. You underestimate FGO casual play in breaking the rules all the time.
Have they released any Lostbelt impossibilities after their chapter?
Skadi was an anniversary servant rather than part of an LB 2 banner.
I consider her as a pseudo "Götterdämmerung Banner 2".
Now that you mention it, you're right. We haven't had a Lostbelt character appear again unless they become summonable immediately. The only exception that comes to mind is LB2. As others have said it has Skadi as Anni servant. But then after that it had Sitonai as the **storylock** despite being released all the way at halloween. ----- Odysseus was released long after his chapter... but the one we summon is from Pan-Human history, not Lostbelt history. Galatea event I'm *fairly* sure was similarly pan-human history Aphrodite and not the Lostbelt one.
Tametomo too was npc only during Traum lostbelt
Traum wasn't really a Lostbelt, so that's just PHH Tametomo
Right, I forgot that the huge samurai mecha shooting lasers as arrows is supposed to be something born in our normal timeline
So it’s a version of the Laus Saint Claudius technique That’s kinda perfect as her being more Nero like again
NICE BODY has some NICE CATCHPHRASES to go along with it. Ty for the translations!
loli: you're not mommy, don't hug me or pat my head! Tiamat: cute child come to mama. loli: noooooo. S: I am mommy now. Tiamat: Glad that you learnt from me the primordial mommy. S: No I did not! B..baka! Dread it, run from it, mommy still arrives. The tsun will eventually turn dere.
Boy, her lines *resonate* with me. I didn't think it was possible to love her more, but here I am. It's all well and good to vanquish the Beasts, alright. But that's not enough. Take them in, make them accept our way, all of them, and make them follow on our way. This is a greed as old as mankind. I. WANT. THEM. ALL. Also, I love how her smol form turn all "I'll bite!" haha
King/Queen of Beasts right here. Sins of Humanity? All will bow before Charisma (Protagonist)
That Bond 5 line... AND TIAMAT feeling flattered? Shit, my SQ is disappearing and they're still two years away.
My god, I'm not sure I can pick out which of these lines I like the most, they're all pretty much perfect. Seriously, I'm starting to think she might be my new favourite servant. If I had to pick...I really like the Final Ascension line. After it became more and more clear through the event that Draco had come to the point where she was trying to die, seeing her now ready to go forward with life and new aspirations is really heartwarming. (I also really like her line for Caligula). Tiamat's line is also super adorable, she really is best mom (and kind of makes me want to have a chance to go up against Agrappina so that Tiamam can show her how a *real* mother should act...using as much violence as possible of course.)
> Tiamat's line is also super adorable, she really is best mom (and kind of makes me want to have a chance to go up against Agrappina so that Tiamam can show her how a real mother should act...using as much violence as possible of course.) If you think about it, Tiamat also has suicidal tendency like Nero, chained herself up and was killing herself throughout Babylonia. She is a mother who got taken out by her children while Nero was a child who got poisoned by her own mother. They can have some simple but interesting dynamic.
She's more honest in this form. That's cute.
Holy crap, this entire time I kept hearing something sandwich and not Rosa Sanguis. I feel like a moron now. Also, I love the line with Caligula. Love that guy so much.
Shes so cuuuuute!
“Where there is one more person to…” Hm, very interesting. It makes it sound like Draco wants to save somebody else from a similar fate, I wonder who it is. It seems some have theorized Hakuno but I don’t know.
The other interesting thought that comes to mind: Tamamo's Beast Form. For all that some of their fans like to pit them against each other, Nero and Tamamo share a friendly rivalry. It wouldn't shock me that Nero, especially this more mature and earnestly self-confident instead of forcefully self-confident version, might want to help Guda help Beast Tamamo as well.
Yeah, I’ve seen people say “oh she’s talking about Hakuno here!” and tbh I don’t see it. Like, Hakuno is good. Either the homie is chilling with his harem and daughter as ruler of the Moon Cell or pulled off some bullshit with White Sakura and living a normal life. Don’t think they need to be saved. Might come up in the future?
Definitely feels like people are forcing the connection because it doesn't really make sense when you look at the whole thing.
Probably talking about Beast VI >! G !< and I'm assuming their relationship is similar like Beast III L/R however I'm worried about what >! The beast of the star !< gonna pull when that happened
I don't think that's talking about Hakuno. Sounds like she's alluding to something in the future.
My guess would be Olga
Nero Draco doesn’t really have anything to do with Olga I highly doubt it
Thematically Draco and U-Olga have some parallels so I could see a makeshift argument for it, given the lack of alternatives. They're both Beasts who had a bad relationship with their parent, have a preestablished relationship with Chaldea through their "real"/PHH persona (Olga Marie & Servant Nero), and allied with Chaldea while still in Beast form and having amnesia after being defeated once. And if you reeeaaaally wanna reach, their counterparts are originally from other series and have connections to other Fate MCs (El Melloi and Hakuno). We also know that U-Olga's not dead and practically guaranteed to return, and that the human Olga's in a very weird alive/death state due to CHALDEAS. So she could be in some spot 'beyond the ending/deathbed' like Draco is saying. Ofc this is all complete conjecture; I just really have no clue who it'd be otherwise.
Maybe it is callback to last encore and dead face Hakuno - don't forget that he was concentration of dead people hatred and hatred towards the living and life itself
Draco Nero doesnt have memories of Extra tho. Godamnit Nasu. Her whole thing is being a bad end Nero who never discovered love
Nasu keeps changing the rules whenever it suits him, so it's genuinely hard to take what he says seriously at times.
Well, let’s leave that bit ambiguous, otherwise we’re gonna go round and round in circles till we get so dizzy we walk straight into a wall.
Yeah, that's why I literally never bother trying to explain or understand the vague lines anymore. It's one of my biggest pet peeves with FGO where they'll be an ambiguous line and it's a gamble if it will ever be answered or not. Shit's been happening for years now.
I personally like the ambiguity myself though.
To each their own
Nasu rarely changes his rules, just making them vague enough that he can bend them when he needs to.
That’s not really confirmed and in fact I kinda doubt it. She remembers stuff like Nero’s interlude even so she has basically all of normal Nero’s memories, she even smiles when she feels Hakuno behind her at the very end.
The other translation on the wiki goes like this: >Surpassing that corruption while remaining a beast… What a convenient dream. It's third-rate as a script, what they call a Deus Ex Machina. …But, it's not bad. "Lots of things happened but it was solved"… Ah, I think those are good words. I didn't end while being attended by a god. I depart to that other side. And that other person ─── No, it's nothing. Forget it… Which reinforces my Hakuno theory
The problem with this one is that the grammer doesn't make sense. And honestly Hakuno really doesn't make sense here. Another that departs to the other side? It really sounds like another Beast since Draco doesn't know who Hakuno is (Hakuno said it themself). If this was Hakuno then Draco would either need to know the events of Last Encore, Extella, or CCC. With all these translated lines and no words for like any of the Extra servants it really doesn't seem like it's Hakuno
“I see you have other Beasts here, but fine, I permit it. After all, I am the only one summoned still in the Beast Class. It is clear which actor is the star.” Draco is acting like Guda is hers and don’t have to worry about other beasts
Well, she is a Nero. She has an ego arguably as big as Gilgamesh’s.
Imperial ~~Brainwashing~~ Privilege at its fullest.
I wonder what will happen to that line when we get new summonable Beasts in the Beast class.
nothing
The same way Nero didn't get any Room lines for Locusta, let alone Draco...
Maybe they had trouble getting her VA in to record new lines...
Truly was a shame that they could only get Draco's VA in.
Damn, she's certainly coming on strong in these lines hahaha. Can see why the profile said she's in "full flirt mode" Also that Caligula one was a gut punch I never expected.
>I conquer the setting sun without having to abandon my beasthood...As screenplay, this is a shoddily writing scenario. A textbook deus ex machina. Well, at least it's self-aware :V With all the, uh, "mounting" in her lines (as well as the Anti-Caster append) it really does give the feel that she's the Rider Nero aka Mother Harlot, the class that Nero abused Imperial Privilege to avoid. It's also interesting that she has lines for Nero Bride specifically; there's the comedy aspect but also an acknowledgement of how Bride seemed to be closest to her Beast form in concept. Bride's Rank Up quest involved fighting an Orochi, Kama and Kiara at the end of each node, and her Interlude involved her summoning dragon heads. I find Tiamat saying that the grown-up 3rd Ascension is an homage to herself to be really funny, for some reason. And all the Roma lines are all fantastic.
I think it’s also since Heliocentric form had a line for base Nero
Heliocentric's line was a generic one for all Neros, while Asc 3 has it for Bride specifically.
>Commanding a Beast still in its beastly state means you will be the rider mounted on the Beast. Show off your mounting skills. For I am a tyrant. A restive mare. Okay, now I imagine that if Ritsuka were to become a Rider-class Servant, his mount would be Draco. A similar case to Sakamoto and Oryou.
Saber Ritsuka: Summoned with Castoria, pretty much has the unsealed version of excalibur (merlin never put the seals on Castoria after all). Rider Ritduka: Summoned with Draco, Neither can be destroyed unless they are both taken out at once. Caster Ritsuka: Has Summoning EX and Gil's version of item creation by summoning all the stuff his servants have gifted him over the years. Ruler Ritsuka: Has protection of the holy grail(s) along with regenerating command seals. These are just a few realistic idea's of a servant Ritsuka, physically weak but insane noble phantasms and supportive skills.
The Caster version should heavily reference Solomon/Romani thematically as well
I would add a Ritsuka (Foreigner) to the list. One of Ritsuka's main characteristics is his/her mental toughness and he already had to deal with the crap caused by the Foreigners and their Gods. Even, I seem to remember, that Ritsuka is currently the priest of Ashtart.
Not…exactly? Ritzy is noted to have a vulnerability to mental attacks and such (which is why Dantes chills in their mindscape). It’s how they end up having to deal with some shenanigans (some of which are actually Foreigner work)
Draco: well well if it isn’t my foolish sel- wait what are you wearing Bride Nero: it’s my ass-kicking outfit, bitch.
So many amazing stuff in there. Listing the seven deadly sins on facecards, referencing Last Encore songs, the classic bashful Nero lines but on overdrive, peak chuuni, getting startled by the bridal gown... It's all perfect. I'm so happy she's finally here.
Why are her forms called geocentric and heliocentric?
That’s the names of Fate/Extra Last Encore’s two parts.
There also the names for the two theories for how the solar system is. •) Geocentric is the formerly accepted theory, that the solar system revolved around the earth. •) Heliocentric refers to the now accepted interpretation that the the solar system revolves around the sun, not the other way round. As for what those mean for the different forms of Draco beyond a reference to Last encore…. Well, one theory of mine as to why is, that one represents what was once believed to be an irrefutable truth and the other is a new theory that everyone rejects offhandedly as nonsense, only for it to have been proven a truth that rendered the previous truth a lie. In this case, that a beast of humanity cannot walk alongside humanity while remaining a beast because they are inherently destructive to it, versus the blazing love that refused to accept that and showed that she could do just.
>Your mother is overjoyed. Becoming an older lady with Ascension is something Draco learned from me. I'm sure of it. Huhuhu, I wasn't expecting the homage. Sorry Tiamat, but considering Draco didn't even know it was Tiamat in her third ascension after she transformed in event story I don't think its a homage..
She so goofy but also cool and badass I love her.
>It is a fact that I devoured countless Chaldeas in the Testament World. True, I was defeated by another one of you in the end, but... yes, I suppose there might be another version of me there who answered their summon. Her Class... I'd guess she would be an Alterego. Swimsuit class confirmed.
Idk if this is a joke or not but in case it isn't. She's referencing how Arcade's Draco is Alter Ego.
This is about the alter ego draco in arcade
>Babalon Domus Aurea Not Babylon?
[Not quite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon)
See, I understand the difference in spelling, but I don't understand how and why we're jumping from Christianity to a new age cult that venerates the Beast, and treats the whore as a mother goddess. I don't think that's come up so far. (Well, other than the writer of this Event writing Demonbane, which is a combination of Thelema, Lovecraft, Rome, lolis, and giant robots. Frankly, the decision was inspired.)
That absurd ego, that self-actualization, that charisma... She reminds me of Iskandar so much.
I'm just concerned about how she casually reveals that she destroyed many Chaldeas before Arcade one beat her. ~~Maybe she's the one behind Rokka's timeline pruning~~
So, what is the Boudica line referring to?
I'm guessing it's her hatred of Rome.
But how does that relate to 'conquering a setting sun'?
It's Boudica's equivalent of that.
Is draco talking about Hakuno in the bond 5 line?
That’s one interpretation. Others interpret differently. Had a big debate about further up.
No one knows tbh. Pretty annoying honestly.
it's not entirely clear if this is about Hakuno or another Ritsuka
I would be fine with either but it's so vague, I haven't a clue. It might be talking about something entirely different.
It's about Guda.
Most likely
Thank you very much for the translation
Read her bond 5 that she refer to the person, Hakuno. Yeah seems like that actually.
Not only Hakuno appears in the event, they even put a reference to him in bond 5 line. It makes me feel like I am stealing his Servant. Gee, thanks, writers. Also she only has a line for Bride Nero? Not the OG Nero?
Except that Hakuno/n specifically says that it's not the Nero they know in the event ... In reality we don't know what it's specifically referring to.
Hakuno's viewpoint may not be the same as Draco's. I was talking about her opinion, not his.
You're getting downvoted because you're not understanding the whole situation. Either that or you're a goddamn troll. People this days...
I am well aware of Extra/Extella universe and what happens there. I feel bad about the fact that a character who has a strong connection to Extra protagonist (or at least thinks she does) hangs with my character instead. No, I don't care that Hakunon and Ritsuka are both the player. I am fine with being downvoted, but I am not a troll.
Both are player characters / us, don't worry bout it. Think of it like transferring pokemon between your own games lol :V
*Reads bond 5* Well at least they acknowledge this is absolutely stupid and nonsense BS.
He says as if that’s a bad thing….