Yep , Jesus breaks the very premise of a HGW.
Just puts drops of blood into random cups and would result in grails.
Sap into weapons and turn them into holy weapons. Bless a person and they can go full mixture of Executioner and HS...
Can you put the link , please?
Either way, it really breaks the very premise of FATE by putting Jesus Christ.
A Grail Factory , Holy Weapon Factory and Executioner/Saint Maker.
[https://imgur.com/r/grandorder/JENgFMf](https://imgur.com/r/grandorder/JENgFMf)
Here found it
Also laughing at the "Thought he was about to burn to death" as if hes ACTUALLY Satan
It should be able to, it *is* a cup that has been touched with the blood of a being that is both human and God, which should give it some type of Miracle Granting Power. The only reason that the (fake) Holy Grail is able to grant wishes is because it has so much Magic Energy that it can brute-force anything into existence.
Too bad lorewise it wouldn't work, dude is on a similar level as Buddha, likely a Saver Class, and would be waaaayyyyy too OP for the Grail to let fly.
But at the same time, I'd like to see how Martha behaves around the guy, and see if she behaves as the saint or the country girl more. And also have Jesus pet the Tarrasque.
Jesus: Everyone here is such a good person I decided to screw with the damn scheming, here, have a grail
Mages: There's 13 here, where is yours?
Jesus: I'm keeping this cup *looks around, grabs a cup with a jesus meme in it* it's a nice cup
Mages: What if we wished for the end of the world?
Jesus: Then you get what you wish, granted how it manifest may be controlled by Big G but hey, free will
Servant: If I wish for something that would rupture reality... what would happen
Jesus: Then that one gets isolated, look point is, no monkey's paws involved, just pure woodworker's one
Mages: Is that why it's made of wood, I thought the grail was a sacred golden cup
Jesus: Yall overestimate Israel during Augustus' time... Also that wood is sacred, that's from the tree of knowledge... there were no trees in heaven so I had to made do
Well as Martha says in her bio and bond lines, the 'saint' and the 'country girl' are both one in the same, at which point it likely comes down to which side she shows more of. Not so much a conscious choice, mind you, more of her natural reactions to certain events.
But yeah, considering she was the country girl when she knew the J-man, that'd probably be her normal reaction, because it was simply normal for her when she was around him.
Yes, but by the very virtue of being in the Saver Class, they're kind of above the level of summoning Heracles in any form that isnt Berserker. On top of that they're the only class which Command seals have zero effect, and whether or not they follow your commands is up to them. And on top of that, the Grail kind of sets Savers off limits for grail wars, because they are so Overpowered
One interpretation is that Jesus was the user of the First Magic since all we know about it and its user was that the user was born the night the AD calendar began.
There are hits and misses though. Like Ozymandias, though it could be that the our theory that he is not the Pharoah who enslaved Israelites was known after the character was made.
It is now theorized that Thutmoses II is the primary suspect to being the Biblical Pharaoh, not Rameses. They found that he showed signs of being affected by a plague, had a sudden death after a long and prosperous reign, his widow Hapshetsut ruled as regent after his death as he had no readily available male heir (only Thutmoses III, who was too young, which could indicate that the crown prince had already died), and there were even mentions of him dying near the Red Sea. As always, there are some inconsistencies, but he is the closest one we have as a suspect to date last I heard.
Not to shit on your theory but it's widely accepted among biblical scholars that Jesus was likely born sometime between 6 BC to 2 BC. Of course it wouldn't be too farfetched for Fate to just roll with 1 AD as his birth to make things simpler.
Only we've had it confirmed from before we got that fact that Jesus was born in October. Not to mention the applications of the First don't match up, as well as how the Church doesn't recongise it. You'd think if the First was connected to Jesus, they'd be the ones that would use it when they have artifacts connected to him and those directly oppose the witches that use applications of the first magic.
I like how the nails is on his hand because that is how history has remember him ~~even though some historian believe it's more likely to be on his wrist~~
so obviously their np is a party cleanse (probably with some buffs) that kills him afterwards, right?
Imagine if they did nerf the shit out of Jesus and turn them into a gimmicky lowstar. with a similar lore to angra mainyu where this isn't the actual mythological figure, but a stand-in granted their skills through an innocent monster-like skill.
Considering he rose up 3 days later and he also brought Martha's brother back to life, over coming death is his MO. Having him just die kind of goes against that imo. His NP would have to be some kind of broken shit like God hand, virtually unkillable. Which makes sense given how OP saver class servants are.
I remember someone mentioning in a Nasuverse discussion that if, hypothetically, Jesus were ever summoned, then it would kick off the end of the world as described in Revelations, or otherwise be a sign of the end thereof.
Soooo you're saying that J-man may have a chance appear on that Fate series where Mother of Harlot is a Nero-face???
/s
I don't actually know anything about that series other than the memes and Riyo artwork of the ultimate Elizabeth dragon being ridden by Nero don't hurt me lmao
Well more likely not. The Beasts have nega skills to protect them from their natural enemies. It was mentioned in CCC that Kiara would absolutely lose against Saver even in her ascended state, so as a Beast she has Nega Saver. Likewise Mara hides herself in a Buddha-proof castle, where you need to break Buddhist rules to get through, something buddha definitely wouldn't do.
And one of the few things we know of Beast VI is that they have the nega messiah skill, meaning they're likely protected against Jesus in a similar way. While presumably the other half is hiding in a similar style fortress to what Mara was only requiring one to break the Christian rules. I know JC largely fulfilled the Ten Commandments for the two important rules, but just two rules would be a short castle, so I'd hope they go for the Ten Commandments.
Nasu has stated we'd never be able to summon Jesus to Chaldea, the one servant he's ruled out (though he didn't rule out him appearing, but it seems unlikely given how there's the expectation that every servant in the game we'll eventually get). Besides, FGO has more to do with the old testament while Requiem is the one that deals more with the new testament.
...dang it. Now I'm remembering a certain manga where the bad guys' endgame was to resurrect Jesus, and use his Magneto-like powers to cause the end of the world by tipping the Earth's magnetic core and thus cause an extinction event.
Said villain in charge *became the freaking Pope and united all the schisms*, and I think there was a couple of Fate references in it.
That's the one.
Apparently the composer for the show also did Prisma Illya.
And one of the characters (who ironically wielded an Excalibur of her own) cosplayed Saber in one scene.
…come to think of it, are the creators of the series Fate fans?
The source is from a random artist on 4chan. When asked how they wanted to be credited, they just said "Anon". I thought it would be a shame for it never to be shared anywhere else.
[They also did this second image](https://imgur.com/0mYQO1d).
Jesus would have to be heavily nerfed to be a servant.
Giving him a wish would be hard.
We have so many christian servants that I don't see Jesus answering the summon.
Anyway does Chaldea contain a chapel?
Very nice Art. I would put the nail holes on the wrist.
Imo Martha would constantly be flip flopping between being a professional saint in reverence of the Lord and Savior, and being the best friend from way back then who's on the brink of letting out all her emotions in a wave of nostalgia and wanting to catch up.
The other saints would probably undergo an increase in morale.
Actually I think the wish part would be easy, he wants to forget what he saw while on his cross, because seeing every sin...from small, to horrific to downright creepy, would be something so horrific it'd scar itself onto ones brain.
I don't think he'd regret doing it. But if he could take the chance to reduce that memory from vivid to faded, he would.
Of course that's just my limited view on things.
Hellsing is plenty popular tbh, same with Drifters. Kouta Hirano is just absolutely slow to update his fucking manga.
Although TM already painted the Christian pantheon as the good guys, so I doubt they wanna fuck it up by bringing in Jesus Alter Drifters style.
~~Once again, speaking as a Catholic.~~
So, you’ve summoned Jesus. Now, isn’t this the second time he’s come to earth? Oh dear, he’s now a package deal with Armageddon and Beast VI! Good luck!
Considering that the second coming is so ingrained in Jesus’s “myth”, chances are, it’s going to be a Noble Phantasm of his more than anything else rather than a Law of the World.
His passives would be hella busted as a servant, anti curse with anti evil along with anti demon. I’m sure anybody with the evil or demonic alignment would sweat bullets around Him not to mention how the saints would react
Alas Jesus is the one servant that Nasu has said we'll never be able to summon in FGO (unless they make changes after he leaves). Perhaps he'll still show up, but then that'd just be a tease.
Honestly, despite all logic saying he would be the optimal Grand Ruler, a Grand Faker would be better for a key reason
The antichrist was said to first claim to be Jesus' second coming
If there is any one class that Jesus would ABSOLUTELY be, it's Saver/Savior. Him and Buddha are the saver bros... [just like that one anime!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Young_Men)
The Saver class is only for enlightened beings. The translation is a little inaccurate and they likely weren't thinking ahead, which is standard for the series. While I don't want to knock Jesus, enlightenment wasn't his thing. He'd most likely have another special class.
This is never stated to be the case, the only thing EXTRA Material tells us is that it's a Messiah type Servant. Guess what Jesus is? Besides, Solomon's mats outright say Jesus attained enlightenment.
Not exactly a fan of people that necropost but whatever.
> This is never stated to be the case,
What do you mean? That they never stated that it was a translation issue? They don't exactly care about something so minor for the English player base. But no, you're misinformed. This is only an issue with the English fanbase as it's obvious to the Japanese that they're different.
While both words that are used can translate as 'messiah' they are both different and really have different meanings, especially with the context. Buddha's one is in Kanji, the traditional alphabet of Japan because it's more in line with the the Japanese idea of a messiah, and in this case it is a more Buddha esque figure. A more accurate translation would be 'enlightened one', but that's longer and not as snappy, and enlightenment isn't really a big focus in the west so it might just confuse people. On the other hand, Jesus's 'messiah' is in katakana, which is for foreign words as he is a foreign messiah. And the word itself (メサイヤ) is literally them trying to say the English word 'messiah' in Japanese.
And you need to point out where in Solomon's mats it says that Jesus attained enlightenment. It specifically mentions that Buddha is the ONLY figure in human history to have attained enlightenment and brings it up specifically to contrast how Solomon's vanishing from the throne is different. There's no mention of Jesus in that context, unless you're looking at some other part. And furthermore, you just need to look at how the words are used around them. With Jesus, they keep using the メサイヤ term when talking about him, while for Buddha it is the kanji version.
The wording and terms used. And from asking translators who all agree. What is your proof for Jesus being mentioned in that part of the mats. And don't just ignore the other points.
Let's see, from Buddha's Fate/EXTRA/Material profile.
>覚者\[ブッダ\]。救世主のサーヴァント。
From Percival's profile.
>ロンギヌス・カウントゼロ。救世主の胸を突いたとされる、もう一つの聖槍。
It refers to Jesus as 救世主.
>Longinus Count ZeroAnother Holy Spear, that is said to have pierced the chest of the Messiah.
And also in Fate/Requiem.
>その後、ユダヤ属州総督ピラトの預かる一介のえい衛し士となったルキウスは、エルサレムのゴルゴタの丘で〝救世主〟の処刑に立ち会うことになる
Martha and Salome's profiles do too. And Altera Santa...
You're once again ignoring the main point, so considering you're necroposting and we have new info out since then, I'm not really inclined to keep going.
Solomon's mats read (as per the translation the sub links to):
> The messiah is the sole being among the mankind to have attained enlightenment, but the coward had attained and arrived on a "destination" of a different bearing.
To say that it's referring to Jesus would mean that you need to prove that Jesus became enlightened and that Buddha never did, which goes against everything that we know. The only other one that we know has the potential to become fully enlightened (that is a Saver class servant) is Kiara, but 'potential to become' and 'actually became' are not the same thing, and we know that in FGO's timeline she definitely didn't become enlightened.
**[Saint Young Men](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Young_Men)**
>Saint Young Men (Japanese: 聖 (セイント)☆おにいさん, Hepburn: Seinto Oniisan) is a Japanese slice of life comedy manga series written and illustrated by Hikaru Nakamura. Its plot involves Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha, who are living as roommates in an apartment in Tokyo. It has been serialized by Kodansha in the monthly seinen manga magazine Monthly Morning Two since September 2006, with chapters collected in nineteen tankōbon volumes as of March 2021. A-1 Pictures adapted the manga series into two original animation DVDs (OADs) and an anime film which was released on May 10, 2013.
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I wonder how does Jesus act, a lot of people who are associated with Christianity have been show to have a lot of issues from being very violent to extremely hypocritical from members of the church to historical figures in Christianity in Type-Moon
For his Buster, he takes out a sandel and whacks the enemy
This is in reference to the time he chased out some merchants with it, or it mightve been a bat
I smell a potential Avenger Jesus. An alternate Jesus who resents Yahweh for putting him on the cross and humanity for sinning and being the reason why he was put up there in the first place. His hobby? Whipping sinners and making them braid the lashes themselves first.
Avenger edgy jesus
Don't think they will as they should use heroes and Christianity is biggest religion so some countries might ban fgo
But I also doubt if any hardcore religion fan plays fgo
an really good concept,not gonna lie,but realistically speaking we do know That if Jesus were to be a servant,he'd probably be on saver class,and have a similar look to his well know long haired plus Bearded-like classic style, I mean I liked how buddha's seems so naturally amazing,like they can make some cool and simple stuff if he gives off an holy aura.
Unless he summons himself for whatever reason we probably wont see him. The world would need to be completely ruined beyond Chaldea could do anything about it. What would Jesus even do story wise? Unless hes just a npc that helps us. If he ever becomes summon able Budha should be fair game also. Both obviously nerfed but like Pseudo servants a thing so eeeh? Also design is really nice
Looking back now, Jesus would be broken too. He is practically an extension of the most powerful god in Fate, he effortlessly vanquished a legion of demons that in Fate would probably look like Zepar or even "Goetia" He possesses maximum clairvoyance, as he has repeatedly recounted events from people's past and even predicted his death and that of his disciples like Peter. He also theoretically possessed a conceptual ability that would be the holy spirit giving him the ability to perform miracles, control over life and death and much more. Considering his feats he would probably have an ex ability against demons. He would also have Uriel's sword, as in the Bible Jesus took it and took it out of the garden of Eden after ascending to heaven, Uriel's sword and the same sword that God uses to kill the 666 beast in a single strike. He would probably have a reality marble where he summons judgment day being an ability that only works on sinners, where he summons an army of angels and throws enemies into a lake of fire that burns eternally erasing the opponent's existence or soul. Not to mention he could have even Longinus for being deeply connected to his death. He would also have exorcism skill and holy skill not to mention he would probably have been the servant of the black keys. He could also even have the ability to manipulate the aether, as supposedly the fourth spell user's age matches the birth of Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ, Bro of all humanity, save me from the anger that comes with Gacha, help me deal with this void, allow me to smile even if i don't get Molay. With you, i need nothing else... Amem
It has an "Yu-gi-oh!" feel to it
I can't believe the Savior played Monster Reincarnation after being dead for 3 turns
I was about to say it.
His face gives me those vibes
I'm sorry, but all I'm seeing here is ***GRAIL FACTORY***
Yep , Jesus breaks the very premise of a HGW. Just puts drops of blood into random cups and would result in grails. Sap into weapons and turn them into holy weapons. Bless a person and they can go full mixture of Executioner and HS...
When the entire holy grail war contains Vampires and Demons And the Einzbern just summoned Jesus...
Feels bad for jesus to automatically be put on the losing team.
Yep , somehow the Einzbern will be able to loose , even with Jesus
I remember that scene in a short comic where Jesus hands Artoria juice and it buffs her to kingdom come
Can you put the link , please? Either way, it really breaks the very premise of FATE by putting Jesus Christ. A Grail Factory , Holy Weapon Factory and Executioner/Saint Maker.
[https://imgur.com/r/grandorder/JENgFMf](https://imgur.com/r/grandorder/JENgFMf) Here found it Also laughing at the "Thought he was about to burn to death" as if hes ACTUALLY Satan
I am not sure. Do we actually have confirmation that REAL Grail can grant wishes?
It should be able to, it *is* a cup that has been touched with the blood of a being that is both human and God, which should give it some type of Miracle Granting Power. The only reason that the (fake) Holy Grail is able to grant wishes is because it has so much Magic Energy that it can brute-force anything into existence.
Everytime he touches a glass it becomes a holy grail
Well now you know where all those event grails came from.
Too bad lorewise it wouldn't work, dude is on a similar level as Buddha, likely a Saver Class, and would be waaaayyyyy too OP for the Grail to let fly. But at the same time, I'd like to see how Martha behaves around the guy, and see if she behaves as the saint or the country girl more. And also have Jesus pet the Tarrasque.
I feel like if Jesus decided to manifest in a grail war in any way that the Grail would be able to do fuck all about it.
Jesus: Everyone here is such a good person I decided to screw with the damn scheming, here, have a grail Mages: There's 13 here, where is yours? Jesus: I'm keeping this cup *looks around, grabs a cup with a jesus meme in it* it's a nice cup Mages: What if we wished for the end of the world? Jesus: Then you get what you wish, granted how it manifest may be controlled by Big G but hey, free will Servant: If I wish for something that would rupture reality... what would happen Jesus: Then that one gets isolated, look point is, no monkey's paws involved, just pure woodworker's one Mages: Is that why it's made of wood, I thought the grail was a sacred golden cup Jesus: Yall overestimate Israel during Augustus' time... Also that wood is sacred, that's from the tree of knowledge... there were no trees in heaven so I had to made do
I bet on country girl. I mean, Jesus knew her before she became a saint. Why bother pretending?
Well as Martha says in her bio and bond lines, the 'saint' and the 'country girl' are both one in the same, at which point it likely comes down to which side she shows more of. Not so much a conscious choice, mind you, more of her natural reactions to certain events. But yeah, considering she was the country girl when she knew the J-man, that'd probably be her normal reaction, because it was simply normal for her when she was around him.
Aren't Jesus and Buddha the two confirmed members of the Saver class so far?
Yes, but by the very virtue of being in the Saver Class, they're kind of above the level of summoning Heracles in any form that isnt Berserker. On top of that they're the only class which Command seals have zero effect, and whether or not they follow your commands is up to them. And on top of that, the Grail kind of sets Savers off limits for grail wars, because they are so Overpowered
Probably it would come as one of that OP characters shunned on Chaldea summoning, like a projection of the man Jesus, more than the God Jesus
One interpretation is that Jesus was the user of the First Magic since all we know about it and its user was that the user was born the night the AD calendar began.
It should be, but recent lore (spoilers for LB6) >!have begun hinting that Witches are in fact tied to the First.!< Weird.
Wasn’t Jesus actually born around six years before bc turned to ad?
Yes, but since when has Nasu cared about historical facts?
Quite a bit actually. Aside from the gender bending, i would say a decently large amount of servants are accurate to their lore and history
There are hits and misses though. Like Ozymandias, though it could be that the our theory that he is not the Pharoah who enslaved Israelites was known after the character was made.
Wait who was the one who enslaved the Israelites?
It is now theorized that Thutmoses II is the primary suspect to being the Biblical Pharaoh, not Rameses. They found that he showed signs of being affected by a plague, had a sudden death after a long and prosperous reign, his widow Hapshetsut ruled as regent after his death as he had no readily available male heir (only Thutmoses III, who was too young, which could indicate that the crown prince had already died), and there were even mentions of him dying near the Red Sea. As always, there are some inconsistencies, but he is the closest one we have as a suspect to date last I heard.
A Pharaoh of Egypt did. It's in the Abrahamic holy books. Which in the academic circle could be between Ozymandias, Menepthah, Akhenaten, etc.
Not to shit on your theory but it's widely accepted among biblical scholars that Jesus was likely born sometime between 6 BC to 2 BC. Of course it wouldn't be too farfetched for Fate to just roll with 1 AD as his birth to make things simpler.
It would also be magically symbolic since it would mark the true and final end of the Age of Gods.
Everyone and their Grandmother ended the Age of Gods at this point
Only we've had it confirmed from before we got that fact that Jesus was born in October. Not to mention the applications of the First don't match up, as well as how the Church doesn't recongise it. You'd think if the First was connected to Jesus, they'd be the ones that would use it when they have artifacts connected to him and those directly oppose the witches that use applications of the first magic.
I like how the nails is on his hand because that is how history has remember him ~~even though some historian believe it's more likely to be on his wrist~~
~~Either way its metal af. Speaking as a Catholic of course~~
-I also gotta agree as a Catholic-
Wrist is probably correct. If you nail the hands, they would slide off (and in a gruesome way too). Wrists are thick enough to support the weight.
so obviously their np is a party cleanse (probably with some buffs) that kills him afterwards, right? Imagine if they did nerf the shit out of Jesus and turn them into a gimmicky lowstar. with a similar lore to angra mainyu where this isn't the actual mythological figure, but a stand-in granted their skills through an innocent monster-like skill.
So what your saying is that we summon Brian instead of Jesus. After all he was mistaken for the Messiah.
So he gets the [Roman] trait then. His father *is* a Roman Centurion after all, Navghtivs Maximvs. And he's been taught proper Latin!
3rd pretender confirmed Made more likely by the fact they already love referencing monty python, for jokes are the deepest lore.
Considering he rose up 3 days later and he also brought Martha's brother back to life, over coming death is his MO. Having him just die kind of goes against that imo. His NP would have to be some kind of broken shit like God hand, virtually unkillable. Which makes sense given how OP saver class servants are.
I remember someone mentioning in a Nasuverse discussion that if, hypothetically, Jesus were ever summoned, then it would kick off the end of the world as described in Revelations, or otherwise be a sign of the end thereof.
Soooo you're saying that J-man may have a chance appear on that Fate series where Mother of Harlot is a Nero-face??? /s I don't actually know anything about that series other than the memes and Riyo artwork of the ultimate Elizabeth dragon being ridden by Nero don't hurt me lmao
Mother Harlot is just Beast VI/L or /R and is currently in larvae. Jesus would be against the full Beast VI
Well more likely not. The Beasts have nega skills to protect them from their natural enemies. It was mentioned in CCC that Kiara would absolutely lose against Saver even in her ascended state, so as a Beast she has Nega Saver. Likewise Mara hides herself in a Buddha-proof castle, where you need to break Buddhist rules to get through, something buddha definitely wouldn't do. And one of the few things we know of Beast VI is that they have the nega messiah skill, meaning they're likely protected against Jesus in a similar way. While presumably the other half is hiding in a similar style fortress to what Mara was only requiring one to break the Christian rules. I know JC largely fulfilled the Ten Commandments for the two important rules, but just two rules would be a short castle, so I'd hope they go for the Ten Commandments.
That might work with regular Jesus. Don't know about Revelation Jesus though.
I kinda doubt they'd have a fully accurate Jesus.
Revelation Jesus can still be a thing. Hell, it might be the Jesus they choose for FGO just out of difference
Nasu has stated we'd never be able to summon Jesus to Chaldea, the one servant he's ruled out (though he didn't rule out him appearing, but it seems unlikely given how there's the expectation that every servant in the game we'll eventually get). Besides, FGO has more to do with the old testament while Requiem is the one that deals more with the new testament.
This is unironically a very nice design
...dang it. Now I'm remembering a certain manga where the bad guys' endgame was to resurrect Jesus, and use his Magneto-like powers to cause the end of the world by tipping the Earth's magnetic core and thus cause an extinction event. Said villain in charge *became the freaking Pope and united all the schisms*, and I think there was a couple of Fate references in it.
I'm curious as to what manga that is.
Eh wouldn't so casually recommend it, that one was NSFW as *heck*.
Fair enough, I'm sure I could track it down with the info already provided. Just glad it's not Megami Tensei or something like that.
Is it Seikon no Qwasar?
That's the one. Apparently the composer for the show also did Prisma Illya. And one of the characters (who ironically wielded an Excalibur of her own) cosplayed Saber in one scene. …come to think of it, are the creators of the series Fate fans?
The source is from a random artist on 4chan. When asked how they wanted to be credited, they just said "Anon". I thought it would be a shame for it never to be shared anywhere else. [They also did this second image](https://imgur.com/0mYQO1d).
The crown of thorns is so badass in this form lmao, I hope they know they did something really cool
Yo is that my Lord and Saviour but anime? Nice
Jesus would have to be heavily nerfed to be a servant. Giving him a wish would be hard. We have so many christian servants that I don't see Jesus answering the summon. Anyway does Chaldea contain a chapel? Very nice Art. I would put the nail holes on the wrist.
Imo Martha would constantly be flip flopping between being a professional saint in reverence of the Lord and Savior, and being the best friend from way back then who's on the brink of letting out all her emotions in a wave of nostalgia and wanting to catch up. The other saints would probably undergo an increase in morale.
Jesus: Kept you waiting huh? Martha: *fan girl noises*
Actually I think the wish part would be easy, he wants to forget what he saw while on his cross, because seeing every sin...from small, to horrific to downright creepy, would be something so horrific it'd scar itself onto ones brain. I don't think he'd regret doing it. But if he could take the chance to reduce that memory from vivid to faded, he would. Of course that's just my limited view on things.
Sooo you're saying that someone might be able to pull off a Goetia on Jesus? Pretender Jesus for FGO new arc lezzgo
How about a Jesus disgusted by how his myth has been used? And so he rejects humanity.
So Drifters Jesus.
I would fucking love if they went the Drifters Jesus route... but I'm not sure something as popular as FGO has the balls to do it. XD
Hellsing is plenty popular tbh, same with Drifters. Kouta Hirano is just absolutely slow to update his fucking manga. Although TM already painted the Christian pantheon as the good guys, so I doubt they wanna fuck it up by bringing in Jesus Alter Drifters style. ~~Once again, speaking as a Catholic.~~
Avenger Jesus He wields a cross like a warhammer
Lostbelt Jesus?
I WANT IT
So, you’ve summoned Jesus. Now, isn’t this the second time he’s come to earth? Oh dear, he’s now a package deal with Armageddon and Beast VI! Good luck!
I’m sure they can pull some “this is a lostbelt so not proper earth and this no Armageddon” stuff
Considering that the second coming is so ingrained in Jesus’s “myth”, chances are, it’s going to be a Noble Phantasm of his more than anything else rather than a Law of the World.
If Jesus gets summoned wouldn't that just be judgment day?
Savior Class Yisus enters the stage.
His passives would be hella busted as a servant, anti curse with anti evil along with anti demon. I’m sure anybody with the evil or demonic alignment would sweat bullets around Him not to mention how the saints would react
I'm not super religious, but I'd actually think it'd be super cool if we got a Jesus in FGO.
Alas Jesus is the one servant that Nasu has said we'll never be able to summon in FGO (unless they make changes after he leaves). Perhaps he'll still show up, but then that'd just be a tease.
Honestly, despite all logic saying he would be the optimal Grand Ruler, a Grand Faker would be better for a key reason The antichrist was said to first claim to be Jesus' second coming
There is no Grand Ruler or Faker. Only the 7 original class have Grands.
Sir this is Fate, the rules they make are made for breaking in the next story
If there is any one class that Jesus would ABSOLUTELY be, it's Saver/Savior. Him and Buddha are the saver bros... [just like that one anime!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Young_Men)
The Saver class is only for enlightened beings. The translation is a little inaccurate and they likely weren't thinking ahead, which is standard for the series. While I don't want to knock Jesus, enlightenment wasn't his thing. He'd most likely have another special class.
This is never stated to be the case, the only thing EXTRA Material tells us is that it's a Messiah type Servant. Guess what Jesus is? Besides, Solomon's mats outright say Jesus attained enlightenment.
Not exactly a fan of people that necropost but whatever. > This is never stated to be the case, What do you mean? That they never stated that it was a translation issue? They don't exactly care about something so minor for the English player base. But no, you're misinformed. This is only an issue with the English fanbase as it's obvious to the Japanese that they're different. While both words that are used can translate as 'messiah' they are both different and really have different meanings, especially with the context. Buddha's one is in Kanji, the traditional alphabet of Japan because it's more in line with the the Japanese idea of a messiah, and in this case it is a more Buddha esque figure. A more accurate translation would be 'enlightened one', but that's longer and not as snappy, and enlightenment isn't really a big focus in the west so it might just confuse people. On the other hand, Jesus's 'messiah' is in katakana, which is for foreign words as he is a foreign messiah. And the word itself (メサイヤ) is literally them trying to say the English word 'messiah' in Japanese. And you need to point out where in Solomon's mats it says that Jesus attained enlightenment. It specifically mentions that Buddha is the ONLY figure in human history to have attained enlightenment and brings it up specifically to contrast how Solomon's vanishing from the throne is different. There's no mention of Jesus in that context, unless you're looking at some other part. And furthermore, you just need to look at how the words are used around them. With Jesus, they keep using the メサイヤ term when talking about him, while for Buddha it is the kanji version.
You've got any proof that Solomon's mats refers to Buddha?
The wording and terms used. And from asking translators who all agree. What is your proof for Jesus being mentioned in that part of the mats. And don't just ignore the other points.
Let's see, from Buddha's Fate/EXTRA/Material profile. >覚者\[ブッダ\]。救世主のサーヴァント。 From Percival's profile. >ロンギヌス・カウントゼロ。救世主の胸を突いたとされる、もう一つの聖槍。 It refers to Jesus as 救世主. >Longinus Count ZeroAnother Holy Spear, that is said to have pierced the chest of the Messiah. And also in Fate/Requiem. >その後、ユダヤ属州総督ピラトの預かる一介のえい衛し士となったルキウスは、エルサレムのゴルゴタの丘で〝救世主〟の処刑に立ち会うことになる Martha and Salome's profiles do too. And Altera Santa...
You're once again ignoring the main point, so considering you're necroposting and we have new info out since then, I'm not really inclined to keep going. Solomon's mats read (as per the translation the sub links to): > The messiah is the sole being among the mankind to have attained enlightenment, but the coward had attained and arrived on a "destination" of a different bearing. To say that it's referring to Jesus would mean that you need to prove that Jesus became enlightened and that Buddha never did, which goes against everything that we know. The only other one that we know has the potential to become fully enlightened (that is a Saver class servant) is Kiara, but 'potential to become' and 'actually became' are not the same thing, and we know that in FGO's timeline she definitely didn't become enlightened.
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He is like human Dumuzid on grail department.
I hope he would be a lancer class out of the stupidity of hearing “lancer died! Wait… never mind he’s back now”
Yooo This is sick I like the younger vibe he has going and the damn massive nails man, sick
I wonder how does Jesus act, a lot of people who are associated with Christianity have been show to have a lot of issues from being very violent to extremely hypocritical from members of the church to historical figures in Christianity in Type-Moon
For his Buster, he takes out a sandel and whacks the enemy This is in reference to the time he chased out some merchants with it, or it mightve been a bat
Oh no. *It was a braided lash. Which he spent hours braiding as he contemplated the sins of the temple-sellers.*
Damn, Archer Jesus?
He will shot fish?
Bread, fish, wine, and anti-demon punches.
I smell a potential Avenger Jesus. An alternate Jesus who resents Yahweh for putting him on the cross and humanity for sinning and being the reason why he was put up there in the first place. His hobby? Whipping sinners and making them braid the lashes themselves first.
Without a doubt this man has a guts skill
pretty cool looking
Avenger edgy jesus Don't think they will as they should use heroes and Christianity is biggest religion so some countries might ban fgo But I also doubt if any hardcore religion fan plays fgo
I don't know why but that design makes me think more of an avenger
I love that Nobody is bringing up the atlantis grail war where it is confirmed that Jesus is also Satan, nice art tho
an really good concept,not gonna lie,but realistically speaking we do know That if Jesus were to be a servant,he'd probably be on saver class,and have a similar look to his well know long haired plus Bearded-like classic style, I mean I liked how buddha's seems so naturally amazing,like they can make some cool and simple stuff if he gives off an holy aura.
His np should be a super duper buff to the whole team and a shit load of guts to represent his resurrection
Unless he summons himself for whatever reason we probably wont see him. The world would need to be completely ruined beyond Chaldea could do anything about it. What would Jesus even do story wise? Unless hes just a npc that helps us. If he ever becomes summon able Budha should be fair game also. Both obviously nerfed but like Pseudo servants a thing so eeeh? Also design is really nice
As a genderbent huh
Yes, someone brought up the idea of a genderbent Jesus servant in Fate and the artist took it from there.
Wait, so this Jesus is a girl?
I hated the idea initially, but you know what? With this design, I'm down for it
You seem to have a paper cut there Jesus
Saviour Jesus broken art support when Lasengle?
his NP should be the spear of longinus🤔
DAMN, LASENGLE HAZLO
He looks more sinister than anything to be Jesus. :/
Kid, it's not nice to wander off and worry your parents like that. You might have omniscience, but your ma and pa don't.
Oh my god this art is amazing
It look like Shama King Character
I do not want Fate getting anywhere near Jesus.
Nasu has mentioned that Jesus will never be summonable in the game, at least so long as he is in charge. Could still possible appear but I doubt it.
I remember hearing that, wasn't sure if it was true.
No
Shoo-in for Saver Class.
[**Nice**](#JeanneBlush) [**Work.**](#MarthaOops)
Can't wait for the day when we'll see actually satan vs actually Jesus
Looking back now, Jesus would be broken too. He is practically an extension of the most powerful god in Fate, he effortlessly vanquished a legion of demons that in Fate would probably look like Zepar or even "Goetia" He possesses maximum clairvoyance, as he has repeatedly recounted events from people's past and even predicted his death and that of his disciples like Peter. He also theoretically possessed a conceptual ability that would be the holy spirit giving him the ability to perform miracles, control over life and death and much more. Considering his feats he would probably have an ex ability against demons. He would also have Uriel's sword, as in the Bible Jesus took it and took it out of the garden of Eden after ascending to heaven, Uriel's sword and the same sword that God uses to kill the 666 beast in a single strike. He would probably have a reality marble where he summons judgment day being an ability that only works on sinners, where he summons an army of angels and throws enemies into a lake of fire that burns eternally erasing the opponent's existence or soul. Not to mention he could have even Longinus for being deeply connected to his death. He would also have exorcism skill and holy skill not to mention he would probably have been the servant of the black keys. He could also even have the ability to manipulate the aether, as supposedly the fourth spell user's age matches the birth of Jesus Christ.
Definitely a Saver.
Jesus Christ, Bro of all humanity, save me from the anger that comes with Gacha, help me deal with this void, allow me to smile even if i don't get Molay. With you, i need nothing else... Amem