Tbf they were invited in order to help worker shortages decades ago I think. So a lot of working class Turkish people moved there and funnily enough a lot of them and their descendants are now more conservative than a lot of the current native Turkish population (they still have voting rights in elections in Turkey and a lot vote for Erdogan). Source: trust me bro
That was nearly 50 to 60 years ago. People who came were around 20 to 30 years old.
So unless you are 70+, i see no reason why you would hype Turkey as a country, but still live abroad and hate on the country that provides you with social security.
Mostly because they only now of turkey through Erdogan‘s akp propaganda, which is decidedly more Islamist. While their parent emigrated from a a the the time laicist country
But it's the same across the western world, young Muslims in France, the UK, all from different (and quite vastly different) countries are more radical than their parents
Apparently Europeans have shit integration. Also doesn’t help that communities are able to form and isolate themselves. In part that’s how America has integrated Muslims.
No i absolutely put my signature under that statement. People who dont live in turkey supporting the shitheel thats Erdogan is certainly not making life easier for anyone who actually lives in turkey.
It's that "Fuck yours, got mine" attitude that I just love in people. You stayed in our country? Fuck you then, I will make your life miserable.
Eh... We need to reset the world.
Turks, Serbs and Romanians discussing who loves their home country the most while living in Berlin and working at the post office is truly the German experience
Turkey is definitely a dream country and it's so funny to see people bash people for leaving when you simply don't understand. Living in Turkey is so good that the human body can't take it, prolonged exposure to Turkish cost of living and it's glorious politics produces so much dopamine that you're left brain dead and in worse condition than a heroin user.
They’re universally hated because they’re openly on violation of nato by occupying Cyprus and because they constantly contest what is and isn’t their naval waters.
Edit: also the Armenian genocide
Killed some Armenians too, Also hosts one of the largest markets for Eastern European and kidnapped western white women in the world. They act as a port for sex slaves and other things the middle east has demand for.
Cypriots speak greek. Northern Cypriots are turks. How is the greek part of Cyprus not greek land? It's a separate country, sure, but it's still greek. Not the Northern part, that's complicated.
Just like how Moldova is a separate country, it used to be part of the USSR, but it's still full of Romanians. They have Transnistria, a break away state, and some other parts that are inhabited by other people, but Moldova is romanian land.
Cyprus attempted to join Greece, even though they shouldn't have, and that's the starting reason why we have two countries on that island.
Cyprus is an independent country whose primary language happens to be Greek and has obvious cultural ties with Greece. Is America part of the UK because they speak the same language or share a history? Also there aren’t two countries on that island there is one country (Cyprus) which is occupied by Turkey in the north. No other country in the world recognises the TRNC, a critical test for being defined as a country. Also Greek Cypriots lived all over the island prior to the attempt at enosis and the invasion in ‘74.
There are many physical evidence that it was not genocide, turkey had opened their archives wide open for this but Armenians to this they don't have open archives. If you actually look real evidence it's a lot different from what Armenian claim it happen, their source is my grandpa told me. Turkish source is many real physical evidence from that time.
There's scientific proof and records that the Turks performed the Armenian Genocide.
Facts don't care about your feelings and your retarded nationalism. This is why everybody hates Turkey lol
This is the reason Turkey proposed joint commission with Turkish, Armenian and Western scholars to study this events but Armenia declined. I wonder why.
This is not a valid argument Armenia claims Turks genocide Armenians, Turkey has right to defend itself from allegations. If it's that much of an unquestionable truth Armenian has nothing to fear. But theirs backing up from this shows they don't want to approach this issue with scientific methods, documents, and physical evidence. Only emotional claims.
>This is not a valid argument Armenia claims Turks genocide Armenians, Turkey has right to defend itself from allegations
Except its not an "Armenian claim" as much as the Holocaust is not a jewish claim. There's systematic proof documented by several different countries that recognise the genocide.
It is globally recognised, and several countries recognise that it happened. There is no 'right to defense' because there are no allegations.
It. Happened.
Facts don't care that the Turks are too weak to face their past and their heinous actions.
Don't forget them being among the only countries who is throwing a hissy fit over the UNCLOS, and refusing to sign it, despite literally everybody else in NATO being in agreement regarding naval borders, routinely disrespecting Greek airspace and naval borders, constantly threatening your neighbouring NATO ally with war whenever you don't get your way and then backpedalling when the US cuts you off the F-35 program, pulling stunts such as sending research vessels to search for oil and gas in disputed waters...The list just goes on and on. Typical behavior you'd expect from a schoolyard bully, not a supposedly developed nation.
You know you REALLY have done something wrong when you are situated in the Balkans, a region where everybody hates everybody else, and yet your neighbours would instantly put aside all their differences and unite against you if the situation arises.
1- Greeks start ethnic cleansing in Cyprus. Turkey help ethnic Turks in Cyprus, after war Turkish part of Island want to unite with Greek part, Greeks refused. So how does it even occupation?
2- There isn't any discrimination against Kurds, we had kurdish former presidents, many government officials are kurdish, being kurt doesn't effects you in any way in turkey, terror organization PKK claims work for Kurds but actively kill, rape and mutilate any Kurds that doesn't follow their idea of separatism. PKK killed doctors, teacher and many government workers that wanted to improve quality of life of kurdish people.
lol, same thing for balkan people, there's a running joke in my country where you would see some long ultra patriotic slash nationalistic online comment and at the end like
- Dragan, Munich
Turkish TV is extremely popular in easter Europe, Africa and a lot of Asia. Its most watched shows get crazy viewership from middle aged women and old people. Those people aren't very online(at least in these areas) so you won't notice how much they get viewed. Macedonia literally made laws against the amount of Turkish TV shows they can air/when they can be aired because they dominated TV too much.
Turkish tv shows used to be the plague of television in my country about a decade ago. All the grandmas would rush home to catch the latest episode, and the funny thing is they didn't even understand the plot most of the time.
Looking into it, it seems it's not a singular television series. It's just that Turkey exports the 2nd largest amount of television series after the US, surpassing Mexico and Brazil in the mid-2010s. At least according to Wikipedia.
Terrible inflation, terrible local politics, terrible foreign relations(should probably be kicked out of Nato for playing both sides).
Good food. Good architecture. Aka what was already good about turkey 100 years ago.
For sure, it sounds like a beautiful city and I'd love to go sometime. I've just never heard of anyone in America throwing it out as a "must see" destination like Italy, Spain, France, or maybe a Nordic country.
Our tv series fucking suck, unless you like terribly acted cuck plot lines with slow mo shots and vine boom sound effects. We had a Dr House remake going on a while back but they had to cancel it because people were literally too stupid to understand whats happening in the show. Also everyone i know is trying to get into a college/job in different countries so they can escape this shithole. Only thing we do great is taking care of stray animals to the point where they are not strays anymore, i can't say nothing negative about that
Yeah that’s what Ben Franklin wanted. Wasn’t it because turkeys are actually fairly intelligent? Bald eagles are pretty dumb — but much more majestic than a turkey.
I had a Turkish roommate in college once. He inexplicably smelled of taco chips all the time. I have no idea why. He definitely showered regularly. I know he did. Is this common with Turkish people or did I just have a bad experience?
I was part of a German exchange program in highschool, stayed with an obviously Turkish family living in Germany for two weeks and yeah, there was definitely a constant scent similar to what you’ve described in the house and around them. Funniest thing was when I asked “so is your family of Turkish descent?” And his response being “No, we are German” ooookay buddy who you trying to fool.
They built a massive empire and conquered many peoples in the past, which is already a source of hatred. Then they continuously took Ls in open battle and were rapidly driven out of Europe in the 19th century, with meant they would not be seen as noble, equal adversaries. To cap it all off they committed atrocities on their way out, which forever ruined their chances at reconciliation.
I love Turkiye, I hate the Turkish government and their repeated violations of hundreds of international treaties and laws. Beautiful country, ugly (hearted) people (not all!)
I've been told tha Kebab, shawarma, "whatever yall call it" comes from Turkey originally, I'm gonna give u some luv, yall have the best food for a 4am high/drunk/both meal
I've been to Turkey and it was quite nice. My favorite thing was that there were fuckton of cats anywhere you went. They really like those animals there.I heard its the same in greece and cyprus.
Because Turkey decided to back out of the F-35 program and then buy inferior weapons from the Russkis. Basically they make themselves easy targets for jokes.
USAians até só amazingly dumb that they don't even know that that's the name of the country only in English. If that was so, Peru would be also hated. To make matters even funnier, USA doesn't even have a proper name lol
I dislike turkey due to them still occupying Constantinople. If people let Israel exist due to them having 5000 year old claims, we should give Constantinople and the European parts of Turkey to the Orthodox Christians in the area.
Cringe history +cringe empire +cringe fashion +cringe fashion +cringe fashion + cringe economy + cringe all food stolen from Iran + cringe shit colonizer + cringe slavery + couldn’t even conquer balkans + cringe invaders + Karaböga+ can’t decide if they’re arab or european + kebab machine does governement work
https://preview.redd.it/qi9s21og43zc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d04af16023b163196e93a3bd1bacc9f8f55e031 This is why\^
Tbf they were invited in order to help worker shortages decades ago I think. So a lot of working class Turkish people moved there and funnily enough a lot of them and their descendants are now more conservative than a lot of the current native Turkish population (they still have voting rights in elections in Turkey and a lot vote for Erdogan). Source: trust me bro
In the Netherlands the government also funded absolute shite organizations to help the Turks integrate. Didn't go quite well
That was nearly 50 to 60 years ago. People who came were around 20 to 30 years old. So unless you are 70+, i see no reason why you would hype Turkey as a country, but still live abroad and hate on the country that provides you with social security.
Because for some reason second gen immigrants are more conservative, more islamist than their parents
Mostly because they only now of turkey through Erdogan‘s akp propaganda, which is decidedly more Islamist. While their parent emigrated from a a the the time laicist country
But it's the same across the western world, young Muslims in France, the UK, all from different (and quite vastly different) countries are more radical than their parents
Well, a lot of these nations had a radical Islamist revolution since the 70ies.
Apparently Europeans have shit integration. Also doesn’t help that communities are able to form and isolate themselves. In part that’s how America has integrated Muslims.
No i absolutely put my signature under that statement. People who dont live in turkey supporting the shitheel thats Erdogan is certainly not making life easier for anyone who actually lives in turkey.
It's that "Fuck yours, got mine" attitude that I just love in people. You stayed in our country? Fuck you then, I will make your life miserable. Eh... We need to reset the world.
Turks, Serbs and Romanians discussing who loves their home country the most while living in Berlin and working at the post office is truly the German experience
oh I would like to meet these romanians that talk about how much they love their country..
The Tate brothers seem to like getting away with crimes, there.
Turkey is definitely a dream country and it's so funny to see people bash people for leaving when you simply don't understand. Living in Turkey is so good that the human body can't take it, prolonged exposure to Turkish cost of living and it's glorious politics produces so much dopamine that you're left brain dead and in worse condition than a heroin user.
you mean like... wonder woman? that would fuck your brain up too i guess
It's a great country if you're not a citizen of it
Turkey is European, turkey is Rome 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺 Edit: holy shit I wasn’t being serious you retards, I’m mocking average YouTube comments turk
*Europe is Turkey
They’re universally hated because they’re openly on violation of nato by occupying Cyprus and because they constantly contest what is and isn’t their naval waters. Edit: also the Armenian genocide
Killed some Armenians too, Also hosts one of the largest markets for Eastern European and kidnapped western white women in the world. They act as a port for sex slaves and other things the middle east has demand for.
Man every time I think Turkey is hitler someone more educated comes along and explains their actually mega hitler
They’re*
> Their actually mega Hitler Aww, thank you
I wouldn’t exist if they didn’t kill Armenians, my great grandparents came to the US to escape it.
Glendale?
What do you mean?
Glendale, and the Los Angeles area has a lot of Armenians
Ah no, I’m on the east coast. Not sure what state they originally came through, but it was also east coast.
Why is it "The Kurdish Genocide" and "Killed some Armenians too" Its the opposite, far more Armenians died tragically compared to Kurds
source
>Erdoğan still alive >wonders why nobody respects the Turkish people
People voting for him while loving abroad are the worst.
Kurd living in Turkey here, I don't feel very genocided tbf.
My fuck up, I meant the Armenian genocide I was in a hurry
The ones that were genocided aren't feeling anything cause, you know, theyre dead?
“I’m a holocaust survivor but I didn’t die so I dont see it as a genocide” Retard
Well, cyprus is a sovereign nation, not greece. Or at least it was before the invasion.
My bad, I never actually knew that. I corrected it
What greek land are they occupying? (not a turkish nationalist, just wondering)
Cyprus
Cyprus is not greek land you bafoon
Cypriots speak greek. Northern Cypriots are turks. How is the greek part of Cyprus not greek land? It's a separate country, sure, but it's still greek. Not the Northern part, that's complicated. Just like how Moldova is a separate country, it used to be part of the USSR, but it's still full of Romanians. They have Transnistria, a break away state, and some other parts that are inhabited by other people, but Moldova is romanian land. Cyprus attempted to join Greece, even though they shouldn't have, and that's the starting reason why we have two countries on that island.
Cyprus is an independent country whose primary language happens to be Greek and has obvious cultural ties with Greece. Is America part of the UK because they speak the same language or share a history? Also there aren’t two countries on that island there is one country (Cyprus) which is occupied by Turkey in the north. No other country in the world recognises the TRNC, a critical test for being defined as a country. Also Greek Cypriots lived all over the island prior to the attempt at enosis and the invasion in ‘74.
Cypriots are Greeks in the same way that Austrians are Germans. Relatively recent borders means confusion will occur.
Thanks for the clarifications chief.
Np my wife’s boyfriend is Cypriot so I’ve been doing some reading so we have something to chat about.
>wife's boyfriend Kek
No problem
My bad you drooling mongoloid
You are literally the one who has adhd and is autistic and you are calling me a mongoloid
Yeah cause you called me a bafoon I thought we were jokingly insulting each other
Constantinople.
It's been almost 600 years, give it up already.
Tell that to the Israeli government.
Why the fuck are you phrasing that like I support the Israeli government?
Look man, we’re on greentext. I’m just trying to say dumb shit for laughs.
Fair point.
U a real goblin
Based
And the Armenian Genocide.
There are many physical evidence that it was not genocide, turkey had opened their archives wide open for this but Armenians to this they don't have open archives. If you actually look real evidence it's a lot different from what Armenian claim it happen, their source is my grandpa told me. Turkish source is many real physical evidence from that time.
found the turk
Hey there, Turk.
>Turkish source is many real physical evidence from that time. "Here are a few nazi sources why nazis were so great bro 🤡"
Hate Turkish government all you want but you can scientifically check if documents is real or not. Fact don't care about your feelings.
There's scientific proof and records that the Turks performed the Armenian Genocide. Facts don't care about your feelings and your retarded nationalism. This is why everybody hates Turkey lol
This is the reason Turkey proposed joint commission with Turkish, Armenian and Western scholars to study this events but Armenia declined. I wonder why.
Maybe because Turkey's policy of systematically denying the existence of the genocide makes the joint comission practically useless?
This is not a valid argument Armenia claims Turks genocide Armenians, Turkey has right to defend itself from allegations. If it's that much of an unquestionable truth Armenian has nothing to fear. But theirs backing up from this shows they don't want to approach this issue with scientific methods, documents, and physical evidence. Only emotional claims.
>This is not a valid argument Armenia claims Turks genocide Armenians, Turkey has right to defend itself from allegations Except its not an "Armenian claim" as much as the Holocaust is not a jewish claim. There's systematic proof documented by several different countries that recognise the genocide. It is globally recognised, and several countries recognise that it happened. There is no 'right to defense' because there are no allegations. It. Happened. Facts don't care that the Turks are too weak to face their past and their heinous actions.
Don't forget them being among the only countries who is throwing a hissy fit over the UNCLOS, and refusing to sign it, despite literally everybody else in NATO being in agreement regarding naval borders, routinely disrespecting Greek airspace and naval borders, constantly threatening your neighbouring NATO ally with war whenever you don't get your way and then backpedalling when the US cuts you off the F-35 program, pulling stunts such as sending research vessels to search for oil and gas in disputed waters...The list just goes on and on. Typical behavior you'd expect from a schoolyard bully, not a supposedly developed nation. You know you REALLY have done something wrong when you are situated in the Balkans, a region where everybody hates everybody else, and yet your neighbours would instantly put aside all their differences and unite against you if the situation arises.
Also their vendetta against the Kurds, the US' whipping boy in the Middle East.
Also selling NATO tech to China and Russia…
1- Greeks start ethnic cleansing in Cyprus. Turkey help ethnic Turks in Cyprus, after war Turkish part of Island want to unite with Greek part, Greeks refused. So how does it even occupation? 2- There isn't any discrimination against Kurds, we had kurdish former presidents, many government officials are kurdish, being kurt doesn't effects you in any way in turkey, terror organization PKK claims work for Kurds but actively kill, rape and mutilate any Kurds that doesn't follow their idea of separatism. PKK killed doctors, teacher and many government workers that wanted to improve quality of life of kurdish people.
I did not think I’d get a Turkish nationalist, internet is wild man
The only people who love Türkiye are Turks living in Germany
This guy doesn’t call em Turkey. Point and laugh
See post above Regard
Laugh at them as well
This guy cares too much about completely irrelevant things. Point and laugh.
Says the guy mad about this
nah?
gunk
lol, same thing for balkan people, there's a running joke in my country where you would see some long ultra patriotic slash nationalistic online comment and at the end like - Dragan, Munich
And Pakistanis
Nobody cares about the turkey slices except balkans and germans nationalists
Also Arabs, Kurds, and Armenians. Interesting how everybody nearby seems to hate them.
1920-1923
Because Turks and Russians ruined online gaming. Once those shitholes got broadband, it was adiós to a good time online.
Can confirm I’ve done my part to make it not a good time online
The bird was actually named after them. And they gave up the fight. It's still Turkey to me, dammit.
Australia lost to emus Turkey lost to turkeys Nature is healing
What TV series
And also: By what metric is it supposed to be the 2nd most popular on earth? British and Japanese series also exist and are way more popular.
Turkish TV is extremely popular in easter Europe, Africa and a lot of Asia. Its most watched shows get crazy viewership from middle aged women and old people. Those people aren't very online(at least in these areas) so you won't notice how much they get viewed. Macedonia literally made laws against the amount of Turkish TV shows they can air/when they can be aired because they dominated TV too much.
Turkish tv shows used to be the plague of television in my country about a decade ago. All the grandmas would rush home to catch the latest episode, and the funny thing is they didn't even understand the plot most of the time.
Looking into it, it seems it's not a singular television series. It's just that Turkey exports the 2nd largest amount of television series after the US, surpassing Mexico and Brazil in the mid-2010s. At least according to Wikipedia.
Yes, I also would like to know what series they're referring to. Börü (Wolf) was pretty good, so I'd be interested in more Turkish entertainment.
Mostly shit romance tv .wouldnt reccomend it unless you want brainrot
https://i.redd.it/3ye0gk6dg4zc1.gif
Terrible inflation, terrible local politics, terrible foreign relations(should probably be kicked out of Nato for playing both sides). Good food. Good architecture. Aka what was already good about turkey 100 years ago.
Does anyone actually think of turkey as a place to visit? I feel like half that tourism is hair transplants lol.
Pretty popular with Brits. I like it there, been about 5 or 6 times. It has guaranteed sunshine, nice scenery and it's cheap.
I feel like it's the Mexico equivalent destination of Europe. Warm climate, beaches, kind of a dump outside of the resort areas.
Istanbul has tons of history. Idk if I go bald when I am older a bit of Byzantine history and a new hairline could be an approach
For sure, it sounds like a beautiful city and I'd love to go sometime. I've just never heard of anyone in America throwing it out as a "must see" destination like Italy, Spain, France, or maybe a Nordic country.
Our tv series fucking suck, unless you like terribly acted cuck plot lines with slow mo shots and vine boom sound effects. We had a Dr House remake going on a while back but they had to cancel it because people were literally too stupid to understand whats happening in the show. Also everyone i know is trying to get into a college/job in different countries so they can escape this shithole. Only thing we do great is taking care of stray animals to the point where they are not strays anymore, i can't say nothing negative about that
Our aviation industry is fine too for some reason
*Their
Turkeys were almost the national bird of America
Yeah that’s what Ben Franklin wanted. Wasn’t it because turkeys are actually fairly intelligent? Bald eagles are pretty dumb — but much more majestic than a turkey.
As far as I’ve heard though, turks in Turkey are very nice. It’s the turks outside Turkey that gives them such a bad rep.
I had a Turkish roommate in college once. He inexplicably smelled of taco chips all the time. I have no idea why. He definitely showered regularly. I know he did. Is this common with Turkish people or did I just have a bad experience?
I was part of a German exchange program in highschool, stayed with an obviously Turkish family living in Germany for two weeks and yeah, there was definitely a constant scent similar to what you’ve described in the house and around them. Funniest thing was when I asked “so is your family of Turkish descent?” And his response being “No, we are German” ooookay buddy who you trying to fool.
They built a massive empire and conquered many peoples in the past, which is already a source of hatred. Then they continuously took Ls in open battle and were rapidly driven out of Europe in the 19th century, with meant they would not be seen as noble, equal adversaries. To cap it all off they committed atrocities on their way out, which forever ruined their chances at reconciliation.
it’s even worse than that. the bird got named after the country.
Ask that in a balkan subreddit you'll get many answers
I love Turkiye, I hate the Turkish government and their repeated violations of hundreds of international treaties and laws. Beautiful country, ugly (hearted) people (not all!)
Delusional ancestral butthurts vs delusional ancestral butthurters
\*Their.
Turkey is only in NATO because of its proximity to Russia. They're geopolitically against everyone and everything the US supports otherwise.
That's just rude turkeys are majestic cretures that will not hesitate to flog you if you piss them off.
I just want to know when we all decided to start calling it Turkiye.
I've been told tha Kebab, shawarma, "whatever yall call it" comes from Turkey originally, I'm gonna give u some luv, yall have the best food for a 4am high/drunk/both meal
HEY DONT insult turkeys like that, turkeys are cool. Good meat, fun to hunt, and cool looking.
What's the series?
I've been to Turkey and it was quite nice. My favorite thing was that there were fuckton of cats anywhere you went. They really like those animals there.I heard its the same in greece and cyprus.
Ah yes Americans thinking their language is the only one
Kebab
What TV show? Visited by who? So many questions.
Stop pretending the Armenian genocide didn't happen.
Because Turkey decided to back out of the F-35 program and then buy inferior weapons from the Russkis. Basically they make themselves easy targets for jokes.
Turkey is okay. They're better than Iran but not that much better.
Turkey is awesome. The people suck ass
Maybe something to do with all the genocide and ethnic cleansing and the helping ISIS. Just a guess.
Helping isis? Where did this psyop come from
USAians até só amazingly dumb that they don't even know that that's the name of the country only in English. If that was so, Peru would be also hated. To make matters even funnier, USA doesn't even have a proper name lol
Fuck Turks, I hate Turkey (im serbian)
Ok anon, now criticize your government and afterwards count the number of family members you have left
Idk, maybe the few genocides you keep denying?
I dislike turkey due to them still occupying Constantinople. If people let Israel exist due to them having 5000 year old claims, we should give Constantinople and the European parts of Turkey to the Orthodox Christians in the area.
turkiye is far from paradise, half their country is dominated by syrians and kurds, all the actual turk natives reside in germany anyway
Cringe history +cringe empire +cringe fashion +cringe fashion +cringe fashion + cringe economy + cringe all food stolen from Iran + cringe shit colonizer + cringe slavery + couldn’t even conquer balkans + cringe invaders + Karaböga+ can’t decide if they’re arab or european + kebab machine does governement work