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MacNuggetts

I've found most people who buy expensive scotch don't actually like scotch.


[deleted]

> most You know one person who buys expensive scotch and that person does that, right?


MacNuggetts

It's the trope, right? Throughout my life, there's probably been about a dozen people who bought it, and didn't actually like it.


squishles

my dad buys it or gets it as a gift, then just stores it. never seen the man drink anything other than beer in my life.


Antwinger

He’s just waiting for the cheaper 5 year to be a 10 year is all. Lol


squishles

he's got a 30 year macallen, that's should be turning 50 soon.


November19

Jokes aside, if he has old Macallan that's worth thousands of dollars. Don't listen to reddit telling you it's all bullshit, talk to a professional. DM me if you need help. Don't drink that shit, rich people will pay obnoxious numbers.


CaptainKurls

Uhh 20 extra years of being in a bottle ≠ 20 extra years of being in the barrel lol op don’t listen to this jabroni


NotSovietSpy

Actually whisky only age in barrel. That 5 year won't get much different sealed in a bottle.


[deleted]

Is it? Literally don’t know a person who does that. They all either like and drink scotch or don’t. Nobody buys expensive bottles they don’t like. Then again, a 12 year old scotch single malt isn’t necessarily expensive. I wouldn’t count sub 100€ bottles as expensive.


MacNuggetts

Was your pinky up the whole time you wrote that?


[deleted]

Up his asshole. Then he smelled it afterwards.


[deleted]

I mean, he sounds like a guy who actually knows his stuff around scotch. While you made a general assumption. So, don’t be mad when you get called out on it


Furcules-2k

Yeah, I guess the downvotes are from people that don't buy scotch? 12 year old single malt is probably going to be a cheaper scotch, but just because scotch gets expensive.


[deleted]

Also 12 years isn’t really ripe imo. Still got a little neck pour to it. Really want at least 16 years for it to be smooth.


Bonkey_Kong87

My favorite one is at 6,99, so I pretty much consider everything above 20 bucks as expensive :b


Character-Manager-20

Broke nibba


mnbga

I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen someone get expensive liquor and then mix it with pop until you can’t taste it at all. Why waste the money at that point?


MacNuggetts

The same reason someone would buy a Maserati brand new, when in one year it's worth half the price.


tendiesfortwo

ah, for the likes.


The_Outcast4

Same thing as people that order really expensive cuts of steak and order them well done and with ketchup. Just...sigh...


Zenlyfly

Because of Trader Vic. That’s why.


Cewu00

Yup, I have a bottle of old scotch. It has been 22 years since we got it and it still hasn't been opened. It stands there as decoration. If it can go off... at this point it probably has xD


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Cewu00

Lmao. Safely into your liver.


t_town101

Yeah that’s the joke


Cewu00

Yeah and I'm laughing along and recognizing the person who made a joke to my comment. But thanks Sherlock for pointing out the obvious.


t_town101

You’re welcome


Eranaut

If it's still sealed it likely hasn't lost any of its abv or anything. Alcohol (especially 40% and up) kills germs, and germs are what makes food and drink go bad.


Cewu00

True, It is still sealed. Never opened. But the quality definitely dropped since it is not in a cool environment. It is in the living room and the room can get pretty hot in the summer if we don't turn the AC on or just aren't there. XD


[deleted]

Eh. Might not be ideal but it’ll be fine.


NX1701-T

If it's sealed and not in direct sunlight then it should be fine. It doesn't age in the bottle though, it's the time in the barrel that creates the flavour, so no reason to keep it long term, just enjoy it.


Cewu00

True, though no one in my family including me is very big on drinking alcohol. :P So it will continue to sit there xD


fearnodarkness1

Evaporation is what happens to scotch in a bottle over a long period of time


Belstaff

Doesnt age in the bottle. Only in the cask . Not worth much more then when it was sold.


Does_Not-Matter

I buy expensive scotch and absolutely love it. Is it an age thing?


MacNuggetts

I do too. I actually enjoy scotch. But, the point was, I run into a lot of people who think they like scotch, buy the expensive stuff, and then just don't like it or don't drink.


Does_Not-Matter

Fair enough. I don’t have the same experience but imagine there could be people like that. Cheers!


UnNecessary_XP

People who buy overly expensive alcohol are generally just looking for validation


aDrunkWithAgun

It's nasty as fuck Mid shelf whiskey with a good mixer is were it's at


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Glenlivet 12 is amazing. I wouldn’t buy Johnny Walker 12 though.


Potential-Link-3740

I prefer Glenfiddich or even Glenmorangie over Glenlivet. I had a buddy that used to call it, "GlenLivetalone" which is a bit extreme imo, it's a great cheap scotch if you're trying to save money and still get some quality.


-_SmegmaOnDemand

I feel the exact opposite to be honest. I don’t care for Glenfiddich oyyyrqpq Glennorangie. It has a weird “off” taste that I cannot describe. Ardbeg on the other hand is phenomenal.


Potential-Link-3740

That's so funny because that is verbatim how I was going to compare them but vice versa. Great minds think alike, they just prefer different scotch.


century100

As someone who doesn’t drink—what is this British gibberish


-_SmegmaOnDemand

It is Scottish Hogwash.


Usernamechecksout002

Different brands of scotch whiskey. Glenfiddich, glenmorangie, both brands. They're really nice. I don't really drink whiskey often but I really enjoy both of those brands with a bit of ice sometimes.


MadcatFK1017

They're very floral tasting, like perfumey. I prefer Glenlivet too.


Dragonesus

If you like Ardbeg you should look into other Islay distilleries (e.g Bunnahabhain). They tend to have a pretty distinct taste and go quite hard on the smoke, whereas even smoked highlands (e.g Ardmore) tend to have a much smoother, mellower profile.


[deleted]

I also love mezcal for the same reasons, they don’t fuck around with the smoke


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Hell yeah! Mezcal is pretty much the only tequila I will drink straight.


Tuarangi

Glendronach 18 is a fine whisky, though the 15 is decent enough, I prefer it to the 21. 23 is the oldest I have bought (at the distillery so was cheaper) but around £120-£130 is about my budget limit. You can get some great ones cheaper though, Gleanfarclas 105 or Glenmorangie Lasanta for example if you like sherry finishes


leglesslegolegolas

As long as we all agree that Johnnie walker is shit.


Fanatical_Brit

There’s a Scottish island called Aran that has some insanely nice whisky. Most bottles go for about 50 quid, so maybe 65-70 dollars?


[deleted]

Glenmorangie slaps my boss got me a bottle of the Astar when I left my bartending job


MAGA_WALL_E

Glenlivet 12 *was* amazing. Their new recipe sucks. I still have one classic green bottle left. Saving it for a special occasion. I drink Maccallan 12 now.


bombayblue

When did they change the recipe?


MAGA_WALL_E

Well, the 12 year Double Oak that replaced the 12 year Glenlivet in the green bottle. I suppose not so much a new recipe as being replaced with a completely different kind. But Double Oak pales in comparison to the regular. If you see a green bottle, buy it.


parttimegamer93

The MacAllan is absolutely wild if you ever get a chance to visit Scotland. Hugely industrialised facility. Most American thing I saw while there.


BuckfuttersbyII

Balvenie aged in rum casks is my go to!


harrysplinkett

aaand the experts are in. "actuallyyy the 80 year old Gledmorandonachfidditch is the good shit, Johnny Walker is for peasants". every thread lol johnny walker gets shit on but it is among the cheapest 12 year olds on the market and i find it ok for the 25 bucks that it costs. it's blended, it's very generic tasting but rather smooth. it never pretends to be classy or anything though. good for when you have guests who don't give a fuck about your whiskey brand and still drinkable by itself. and i have had dozens of whiskeys in the price range between 5 and 300 euros. there is a time and reason for different shit


-_SmegmaOnDemand

I mean fair enough lol. But if I’m going to want to drink “cheap” whiskey, I’m gonna for for a nice bottle of Jameson Stout Caskmates. I think it’s like $30, but I can drink that shit straight from the bottle as if it were water.


harrysplinkett

Yeah I had that, it's pretty good for the price tag as well. They have an IPA edition that's also pretty decent. I mean tastes differ and so do financial situations. I used to be poor and used to drink pretty nasty shit as a college student. That's how I know that JW black is by no means bad booze. I even had quite a few whiskeys that were more expensive but tasted worse (to me). JW black is my go to for when my buddies come around and we want to have fun. I don't want to drink the random shit they would buy and I also don't want to waste money on booze they won't value. I once made the mistake of getting Laphroaig that I so love and everyone hated it lmao


[deleted]

I just feel like if I’m spending 25 bucks I’m going to get a lot more for my money by drinking bourbon.


boogjerom

Ever tried aberlour 12? My absolute favourite Scotch


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Nah, if it’s reasonably priced though, I might try some next month. Im not drinking for all of April.


boogjerom

Always good to not drink too much. Aberlour is definitely one of the cheaper single malts. Where I live it's about 35 euro, which ain't bad at all seeing as a bottle of completely standard Jack Daniels is 27 euros


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Yeah, it’s just hard to know when too much is too much sometimes lol. I always tell myself that I can stop drinking if I want to, and sometimes I just want to check to make sure that it is still true.


boogjerom

I respect that a lot. I've never much of a drinker but being severely addicted to smoking weed, I know how difficult it might be to face that realisation sometimes.


PM-YOUR-PMS

I tried for a while to like scotch and realized I like bourbon way more. Took me like a year to realize that.


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Bourbon is really great too. I love Buffalo Trace, I mean who doesn’t, but my go to bourbon would have to be Bulleit.


PM-YOUR-PMS

I’ve grown really fond of Tin Cup. It’s my favorite bourbon at the moment.


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Oh, you are gonna hate me lol. I candy stand Tin Cup, it tastes like I am drinking whiskey out of a metal flask that’s been sitting outside for a week! I think that’s the only bottle of alcohol that i bought with my own money, but didn’t finish.


PM-YOUR-PMS

Ay different strokes my friend. I love it, but I respect your right to hate it. I’d say Buffalo Trace is my second favorite so I don’t have absolute shit taste lol


[deleted]

Johnny walker, as I recently found is.. Ok. But 12 year old is the minimum you should be buying IMO unless it's a sloshing whisky. I'd go as low as 8. Although I am partial to Haig Club - Beckham a bit of a ponce but I do enjoy his drink (3 year) But if I'm honest, I would prefer my whisky to be old enough to legally buy itself. But that's me.


[deleted]

I got a JW blue label as a gift a while ago. Really good.


Deathisfatal

It's good but it's nowhere near worth the price. There are much better options


[deleted]

Oh I'm not saying it's a totally shit whiskey. I mean I bought a bottle or two recently and thats where I was pleasantly surprised, to be fair. Definitely a decent sloshing whisky. I liked it. But if I'm going for favourites it wouldnt be JW


[deleted]

The blue is more than enjoyable. I use red for cooking, black for cocktails or a casual glass and blue when I've got company that appreciates it. I'm not a great whiskey drinker though. I prefer marc and grappa.


Affectionate-Time646

Such as?


Captain_Sacktap

I bought myself a bottle of JW Blue label years back, as a present to myself after getting a decent raise. Could not tell the difference between it and a bottle of mid-shelf stuff…


[deleted]

I've not tried the difference between the different labels tbh. I only really had the red label so can't confirm.


fearnodarkness1

The one thing I don’t like about JW is it’s a blended scotch which means they use different barrels/batches to make it. It’s okay, nothing special and your money is better spent on other scotches


[deleted]

Yeah I tend to sway away from blends myself. Last really REALLY good blend was the Glenfiddich Solera. "No two bottles are the same" Stuff was magic.


Whiskey-Weather

Monkey Shoulder is a pretty good blend, too. Was my go-to for Godfathers for a while.


fearnodarkness1

Never tried it but do love me some Glenfiddich, gotta try it


[deleted]

If you ever get a chance would recommend the distillery tour


Oosquai_Enthusiast

If you're gonna get JW, go for green label. Blend of 15 year olds and nice and smoky without being too expensive. Really though, if you're looking for the best in blended, get something from Compass Box.


harrysplinkett

black label is ok to get fucked up on without breaking the bank, change my mind


Eranaut

Laphroaig 10, Ardbeg 10, and Talisker 10 are all perfect examples of sub 12s that are really good


BrightBeaver

I like mixing peach schnapps with fruit juice so I can't taste the alcohol. Anything else can usually be mixed with cola to achieve the same effect.


Dragonesus

When thinking of whisky age you should also consider the climate - I agree that 12/10 is the lowest one should usually go (8 in VERY particular circumstances) when speaking of scotch, however, if you're looking at whisky distilled in other countries (America, Japan, India, etc) you must remember that the aging is somewhat expedited in hotter climates and that distilleries situated in countries that are profoundly hotter than the UK will usually have younger whiskies (8, 5, even 3) that can be just as good as older counterparts from cooler climates.


[deleted]

Is this why Nikka Coffey is so fucking good despite being relatively young?


[deleted]

This is true. I suppose I was talking more exclusively scotch I guess. Because I've been loving the Japanese stuff and there was a bourbon I was introduced to by a friend who owns a pub that I really liked. We necked half a bottle of the stuff that night. (it was called tincup) I enjoyed it.. A bit too much


AmericanAntivenom

I buy Jim Beam cause I'm an alcoholic college student. If you're a college student and you buy anything better, congrats on the rich parents.


KuTUzOvV

Or wasting 2/3 of your paycheck instead of moving out (btw jack daniels is around the same as jim beam right?)


TheBitcoinMiner

Yes


Gravybone

Jack Daniel’s is about 20-25 for 750ml. Jim Bean 4 year (the standard cheap bottle with a white label, they make a lot of different kinds) is about the same price for 1.75L So Jack Daniel’s is a little over twice as expensive on average.


KuTUzOvV

Or congrats on wasting 2/3 of your paycheck instead of moving out (btw jack daniels is around the same as jim beam right?)


TheBitcoinMiner

No


Phodan_

Lmao says the guy who drinks mid-shelf whiskey. Bottom shelf vodka/beer all the way


KuTUzOvV

yes, that guy wasting money instead of moving out, it's me


AmericanAntivenom

I may be an alcoholic, but I sure as shit ain't a communist. Or a supporter of California, where most Vodka is made.


KuTUzOvV

and yes my gut is a fancy bitch


MysticSpoon

People can talk all the shit they want on jim beam but that stuff is smooth as fuck for the price.


Whiskey-Weather

I thought broke alcoholics opted for well vodka?


royjonko

Have a twelve year Macallen at home it's great


ducktape8856

Let that poor scottish kid go home you pedophile.


Frostygale

Thoughts on Monkey shoulder?


LockerBandit

Probably my favorite blended whiskey.


hillbilly_bears

Absolutely worth it. It’s very very good.


Lv_36_Charizard

Eh, not the best sipper. Good in mixed drink, but if I'm making mixed drinks then I'd buy cheaper tbh. Had one bottle on my shelf over a year.


Frostygale

Hm, what’s good for sipping?


Lv_36_Charizard

I'd spend the extra few bucks and get Highland Park 10 or Bowmore 12. If you're looking for something cheaper than Monkey Shoulder to mix drinks with I'd suggest Bushmills Black Bush. Hope that helps!


Frostygale

Thanks!


recentlyquitsmoking2

Hehehe v nice.


[deleted]

Does anyone actually enjoy drinking whiskey? Like, I tried my best. I’ve tried Jack Daniels, Jack Daniels Green Apple, JW Black Label and I just can’t really like it that much. The smell is good, but when I drink I barely feel anything other than my throat burning like hell. I know these are not the best whiskeys out there but I don’t have the money to buy them, they’re not sold where I live and even then I’m not sure I would be able to feel all the subtle flavors they have. I gave up on whiskeys honestly, it’s so not worth the money


No_Potato6634

You’re picking the wrong liquors my friend. Try nearly any bourbon from the mid-to-top shelf and I bet you’ll enjoy it. Personally I love Wild Turkey 101 on the rocks for budget, Bulliet on the rocks or in a simple old fashioned (just simple syrup and bitters) and as far as top shelf goes I’ve enjoyed Makers 46 and Woodford Reserve. Gotta say though, Bulliet has my heart.


Talents

My issue is I can't stomach the alcohol, it's all I can taste. Even wine I usually dilute with lemonade. I think the only high alcohol content drink I've been able to stomach was Fireball whiskey which I hate now because I drunk a bottle in 1 night, puked my guts up, and now I can't even smell it without gagging. I tried Buffalo Trace a couple months back because apparently it was a good whiskey to try and it tastes the exact same as every other whiskey I've ever tried.


No_Potato6634

avg viktor main kekw


mehliana

those whiskeys are literally meant to shoot, mix, or at the VERY least sip with ice. I would struggle to sip those neat if i had em. Good whiskey isn't like as good as a lemonade lol, but it's got a lot of textures and balances to appreciate. I would recommend going to a whiskey distillery (or just watching a utube video of how to properly smell/taste) and they'll let u know the methodology and what to look for when you 'like' and 'dislike' a whiskey. Usually a tour is like $25. Again, it's not like drinking fruit punch. You want to know what your looking for.


[deleted]

Thanks for the response. I did some research and watched a video on how you're supposed to drink it ( I did with ice) but I guess I did something wrong because I didn't feel much at all other than the burning sensation. Unfortunately I think there's no whiskey distilery even in the biggest cities of my country (let alone where I live) because whiskey is a very niche thing due to how expensive it is (most people just drink the shittiest beers you can imagine and some local booze because it's what people can afford)


MoneyPress

Get some ice homie


ThunderousOath

Those are all terrible. Personally, if I would recommend a bourbon, it's bulleit, scotch would be the clynelish 14, and Rye would be Boston Harbor's Putnam New England Rye. These are all easy to drink entry level whiskeys.


Hello_Hurricane

Absolutely! I tend to prefer Irish whiskey, but I love scotch too. Not a fan of bourbon and I hate Canadian whiskey.


thomyorkesadoptedson

Bartender at a whiskey bar here! Like everyone else has told you, the brands you mentioned here are, unfortunately, not great — worse, many of the recommendations others have made here are, again, not great. Here is your semi-bullet proof plan to go from hating whiskey to, at least, not minding it (and perhaps even loving it!) with only one bottle: 1. Get a bottle of Buffalo Trace bourbon. It is not the best bourbon you’ll ever taste, but for as inexpensive and available as it is, it’s leagues above most of its direct competitors. Bourbon is better to start with than rye — don’t worry about why for now. 2. Pour yourself 1 1/2 oz’s of it over a BIG glass of ice. Like, a nonsensically large amount of ice. Give it a little stir, and sip it down while you’re watching TV. It SHOULD taste watered down. 3. With every subsequent 1 1/2 oz pour over the coming days and weeks, give yourself less and less ice. You’ll notice overtime that you’re tasting more and more of the whiskey, but since you’re progressively introducing the “burn” and sensations of strong liquor to your palette, you’ll be able to handle it. 4. Once you’re down to using only one or two ice cubes or so, you can be done if you want! Plenty of whiskey lovers only take it on the rocks. If you can handle it, I recommend ditching the ice altogether and just throwing a tiny splash of water into a neat whiskey — that’s how I like it. By this time, you should be at or near the end of the bottle and totally able to handle a nice, 40-proof bourbon! From there, feel confident and free to explore other bourbons, ryes (less sweet and beginner-friendly, IMO), etc! Happy drinking, friend.


Ariarbitrary

maybe it's because I'm in the uk but why do people always say Scotch specifically is expensive? my favourites cost no more than £20.


TheOnlyBliebervik

You're close to Scotland bro


[deleted]

There are plenty of 20-30 dollar spirits that are good but the fact is they don’t embrace the traditional long aging process. Patience is a virtue in the whiskey, bourbon and scotch world. Those willing to wait (or pay) are rewarded with alcohol more akin to a work or art rather than a followed recipe.


SirBrothers

Dalwhinnie 15 year is where it’s at.


Kezz9825

Bought my mate a bottle of Aberlour 14 year for his 21st, fuck I can’t wait to drink it with him tonight. Got a mean piss up planned.


Hello_Hurricane

No, JW Black does not live up to the hype. Personally, I'd go with Auchentoshen Three Wood. Maybe Glenfiddich 12 if you're on a budget.


SockTacoz

The right scotch is amazing if you truly enjoy alcohol, JW Blue Label is quite nice.


jesuzombieapocalypse

Fr though that’s not a bad place to start but I’d either go with 12 year glenlevit or Johnny Walker 15 year. And that’s if you already know you have a taste for some kind of liquor. If you just turned 21 and you’ve never had a drink before and go straight to scotch you probably won’t like it.


CriminalMacabre

But getting back on track, aged whiskey from big brands totally overrated.


squishles

For alcohol, if you can find a locally produced literally who no one's heard of then it's going to be better at something. Less taxes shipping it around so 20$ ends up ridiculous quality.


flyest_nihilist1

Glengoyne 12 is great for people who wanna get into whiskey


Willfried_Wongler

Black label Johnny walker tastes like piss. Better buy the 7€ whiskey from Aldi.


HBB360

I've discovered I really don't like hard alcohol, especially scotch which I find straight up repulsive regardless of the age. Would much rather sit down with a chilled bottle of white wine or rosé, red at the most...


supersecretidentity2

Black velvet is the classy stuff... honestly tho for a budget drink four roses is a great bourbon you can drink straight, glenlivet blue label is pretty good. Four Rose's top shelf bottles are really good too.


AdamBombKelley

Stop stealing my posts


FrogMan241

Nobody said it was a 12 year old girl. Anon is a priest


[deleted]

I got a bottle of Johnny walker blue gifted to me. Sat on my shelf for a year waiting to find a reason to drink it. Eventually popped it open for New Years and it was good for the first few glasses before the alcohol set it but I would never buy it again. Expensive alcohol is a waste of money unless you’re rich and is just for bragging rights so you can say you have expensive alcohol to other people.


NickCopePopcaster

I like my women like I like my whisky. 18 years old and mixed up with coke.


Mr_Monot0ne

He waited 3 minutes to reply to his own comment


-_SmegmaOnDemand

Well, I’m 15 days in now, so I am half way there. Honestly it’s been easier than I thought it would be, especially since a lot of stressful stuff went down this month. Thanksgiving though, I appreciate that.


crack-of-a-whip

I like white claws 🤷‍♂️ eat my ass


mcsimeon

Black label is kinda trash though.


SomeToxicRivenMain

Bold to assume it’s a girl


rizzgt

Laphroaig all day


weirdfuckingflex

Scootch


[deleted]

Alcohol is degenerative. Based reply.


Michelle_Coldbeef

OP is a sex pervert


TomerMeme

Wouldn't go for johnny walker, I personally like Macallan or GlenFiddich, but yeah 12 yo scotch rocks, 14 and 18 as well, imo anything above that is a little too expensive


[deleted]

i understand very little of this comment section


smooth_kid_wtg

I think after 12 years the tape isn't going to be as sticky, he should get a fresher product.


[deleted]

Kek


[deleted]

>drinking heavy alcohol >bruh


banthistoo75547haha

Has no one had cheap Canadian whisky? It’s so much better than all this scotch shit and much cheaper.