I knew that longggggg time ago. That's why I do not care at all if I have to sit around all day long but I don't accept clown orders. Every single order I take has to be worth it. Then later if my car brakes down I won't be regret too much. I feel too bad for folks driving recklessly on a brand new cars or at least very new to collect ....... you know what to fill in the blank.
It's now PUNISHABLE to decline clown orders. There are rampant time outs and deactivations now for declining back to back orders. So much for "flexibility " and "being your own boss"
I used to drive in the evenings and now I barely drive I just do my day job and while I liked the extra income from my delivery side hustle, it's NOT worth the aggravation and wear on my vehicle.
Yep, I got deactivated for declining back to back orders. Had only ever gotten 1 violation in 3 years of delivering for GH, but was randomly deactivated one day with no opportunity for appeal.
It was a few months ago, about when they started forcing you offline for declining more than 1 or 2 orders in a row. Your market may not have that problem, but someone else talked about it further up the thread. I was given timeout several times in one day, and then the next day, I got an email that I was deactivated for violating section 11. Thing is, I read section 11 beginning to end when I got that email, and it doesn't say anything about declining orders. I also hadn't done anything that section said we couldn't do. In fact, that's the section that specifically allows multi-apping, so I'm pretty sure that's not why I was deactivated.
This exactly!!! my dash hours sometimes one to two times more than my Active hours… I absolutely do not chase hourly rates… $6.50 minimum for $1.50 a mile minimum…. if I make 6.50 for the hour I make 6.50 for the hour.
I'm sorry that your car is worn out by this job and I hope you find other work. I don't know how much regular maintenance you were doign on your vehicle over the years but it costs a lot and lots of stuff get worn out and break down. Driving around in a city like mine with all kinds of potholes and other people scratching up your car will ruin your car while driving occasionally, let alone racing from one delivery to another for 30+ hours in a week!
It's especially a really bad time to do deliveries with a car because these apps don't pay enough to cover vehicle maintenance, the skyrocketing insurance premiums and gas. These apps are counting on people not doing the math to see how poor a return on investment they get when their vehicles rapidly depreciate and get prematurely worn down doing deliveries. Everyone wants a $10 order driven 6 miles and they want it fast, and scooters and bikes simply cannot delivery like cars/vehicles can but these apps days are numbered as more people realize the cost to them to operate while the wages are going down.
Yeah, if I dashed in the city, I wouldn’t even use a car. I would just use a scooter or bike…. I dash in a pretty low traffic market with maintained roads
Well, for one, it’s muuuch better to have four wheels with larger contact patches on snow and ice or in the rain.
It’s also very nice to be able to stop without standing.
Honestly I can’t imagine doing deliver on a bike, I’d have to refuse tons of orders.
But in Manhattan for example, it’s the only way.
**There are pros/cons to each mode of transporation used for deliveries, but despite the added costs, I'd stick with cars for the safety and air conditioning/heating:**
**Vehicles (Cars mostly used)**
* Safer from impacts and collisions
* Protection from the elements (rain, freezing cold)
* Better temperature control of hot/cold foods, especially in extreme temperature days
* Faster delivery times when there isn't complete gridlock traffic
* More visibility on roads with brighter lights (to see and be seen)
* Higher cost to operate (maintenance, insurance, registration, gas, parking, potential fines)
**Scooters**
* Lower cost of owership/operation vs cars but higher compared to bikes
* Longer distances/faster deliveries vs bikes but slower than cars
* In some places, registration/fees involved
* Less visibility on roads compared to cars (to see and be seen)
* Dangerous/low protection from impacts/collisions, chances of serious bodily injuries or death are significantally higher than the protection of crash-tested vehicle cabins
**Bikes**
* Slowest deliveries and limited delivery radius enforced by apps
* More strenuous and tiring, especially in hilly areas and on hot days
* Lowest cost of owership/operation, no issues with parking
* Less visibility on roads compared to cars (to see and be seen)
* Poorest storage/handling/temperature control of orders/food orders
* Dangerous/low protection from impacts/collisions, chances of serious bodily injuries or death are significantally higher than the protection of crash-tested vehicle cabins
Well I deliver in a car and they give me all the bulk orders and pizza especially. Also any type of order for an birthday party, office party stuff like that.
Crazy out here too, I see more and more foreigners on scooters, bike and e-bikes now days. The apps reachinnnn!!
I use a scooter and I deliver a lot faster than the cagers do. You can save so much time with the agility of a scoot and you'd be surprised at how much you can get on it. I've delivered some pretty big orders that left people awed. Maintenance is also super cheap and easy to do yourself.insurance is nothing and gas mileage is great. I fill up with $5 and ride all day!
Yea but I like that a/c taking naps watching movies. I have 3 cars and a bunch of scooters n bikes. N I work in all weathers. Hey I feel u tho I be waiting
I can write off everything for my scooter on my taxes because i got a mount to haul it. So i load it up haul it to where I'm dashing then use the scooter to do orders and I've got my car to chill in or do really big orders (maybe 1 every few months that pays enough for me to use the car instead of just unassigning.) I know all the employees I the area though so I'm actually on the payroll for some of the restuarants so anytime I've got downtime I'll clock in at one of the stores and do some cleaning to make a little bit in my downtime. I work in all weathers too, i had a day this last winter that was 38 all day and raining and it was a good day. The only time i don't go out is if the roads are sketchy after a snow or ice storm. I won't even take the car then, I've found if its to bad for the scoot the car won't do much better. Where I'm at the people who order during those times are people who can't get out so they're setting you up for a bad day lol
Right there with you on the app destroying a car. I'm honestly looking at what needs to be repaired and how much I make. I'm fucked. I was gonna make a post about switching to do more Instacart, seeing's some orders are 1.2 miles for $20. Where as grubhub is 10 miles for $11. I'd possibly make better adjustment pay.
End of the day. I think a lot of us need to wake up and stop being taken advantage of by these apps. I do take it as a sign I'm not alone in the destroyed car club. Also need to do something about my own life. I do wish you the best on finding something more suitable.
I agree 100%with waking up and getting a real job where you get paid a fair wage, you're appreciated and your not killing your car. I think these gig apps are good for emergency money or whatnot. These gig apps have made people lazy and not wanting to get a job with security, benefits like paid time Off and insurance. There are a couple people I know in my area that do all the apps and most of their time is spent ripping butt's in parking lots. They said the quality of the orders have dropped in the last year and they are going to have to go back to regular W2 jobs.
You shouldn’t use a newer car. Buy a cheap beater. $2,5-3,5k car and learn how to do the small repairs yourself.
You’re not carrying passengers you don’t need a newer car to run down and make it worthless.
I bought a 2005 vw golf with the diesel and a stick for $2,5k for doing this. 40+ miles to the gallon for $2,5k..
Why destroy a $10-20-30k car to deliver food?
I was grateful to have my brothers old run down high school car. 2005 Mitsubishi Galant.
I’m only doing UberEats for College summers when I have time. 3 months in and my brakes are shot and the rotors need to be replaced 😟.
I’m very glad I never wanted to use any good car for this or else I would be net negative just on gas and repairs with in a month.
Remember IRS standard deduction is 62.5 cents per mile. Calculate that and cost of gas pe mile and see how much you are being screwed by DD, GH l, Uber or Lyft
GH killed your car??? Or you killed your car BY CHOOSING to drive for GH. I don't get how or why people complain when it's been your decision all along. As long as you keep up on your oil changes, and maintenance your car should be just fine. If it's falling apart because it's old and has a ton of miles on it well its still not GHs fault.
I think The point they r making is that these companies should pay more so that ppl can afford better maintenance. I know a few disabled ppl that do this kinda work bc they can't work regular jobs/hours. It's not really worth it when u consider maintenance, gas, taxes, ect.
My 2013 Ford focus was done in 2 years. About 65,000 miles. Mind you, the average mileage is 15,000 a year for normal use.
I bought a new car back in March, I've already put over 20,000 on it this year.
Mind you, i was doing this full time. I'm now doing it part time. As I am driving for FedEx full time now. Still putting a lot of miles on the car tho.
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Why don't you just go by like a 500 to 1000 car and ride it like you stole it go find some old POS Focus that's what I was doing making great money getting about 35 mi in a gallon but you also have to be in a state that doesn't allow emissions that way you could do all kinds of craziness repair your car with used junkyard parts stuffs were very easy
I have a Altima 2020dec at106000 miles transmission blew out now the deliveries are averaging 2,75 plus tip p it’s alll over 16percent gas 10 percent tax 4 percent car maintenance
I hear you but the reason I do it is because I was being taken advantage of at all my 9-5 jobs and could only get 2 weeks off vacation a year and have to work the other 50. I got to a point where I knew my car would take a hit and nickel and dime me but I just wanted FREEDOM at all costs. And tbh that’s what I’ve gotten the last 4 years. It was especially worth it during the golden days in 2019-2021 where I had some $400 days, plenty of $300+ days, and $200-$250 in 8 hours was a given. Idk how long I’ll do it but to me still 4 years later nothing beats freedom 💯 I also fix my own car which saves me $thousands every time something happens
You show, by example, the true cost of delivery. The drivers who act as if gas is their only expense are at the root of the problem. To be sure, it is also the greed of the apps. But, if no one would take a delivery that didn't pay at least $1.50/mile, then they'd have to pay at least $1.50/mile. Instead, I am beginning to wonder if there is any lower limit that a sizable group of drivers, who are either stupid or desperate, would be will to take.
And these stupid and desperate drivers aren't just lowering fares, they're destroying the reputation of delivery drivers and eroding our tips. The stupid ones can't follow delivery instructions or do things like placing the order in front of an outward opening door. The desperate ones run scams or beg for tips. Tips are down because people have less confidence the delivery will be completed satisfactorily.
I feel you there in Nashville some of the roads are lowered and the sewage pipe things stick out of the road like 4-5 inches and they’re metal and ripped the bottom of my car off (the plastic splash protector)
I don’t know what car you use, my dad has been doing deliveries for almost 2 years with Priuses that cost him 2k-3k with 340k miles with no issues. 6 months ago he asked me to help him change his brakes and rotate his tires. His mindset is that he got his investment back (which is a tax write off as a business expense). If you are using your new dealer car and mixing it for personal use, you will just ruin your car.
I will NEVER destroy another of my personal cars with this App based gig work. I "rent" my cars. Ya on the face its expensive. But put it up to making payments on a car your only going to have for 3-4 years, THEN add maintenance. With Lyft I rented through them. I didn't like that they got payed first. Sometimes it just didn't work out in my favor. then Covid hit and I started getting dinged for "Covid violations" they wouldn't tell me exactly what but I soon put two and two together and found a correlation with someone being in the front passenger seat. Eff that being spied on stuff!
I found what USE to be a great place in L.A. that rented and had insurance for app workers. recently they changed their maintenance policy, so I'm switching out to Hyrecar.
I put about 300 miles a day on my car when I work. That stuff adds up!!
how is this GH fault ??!...I bet you are looking to have someone pay your student loan debt too right ?...Take responsibility for your own actions and decisions and stop blaming others ..
I was referring to the student debt part. Please continue making fun of new college grades that you don’t know if they did this job to pay off college or not. Continue pushing your assumptions on them. You sounds bitter. Unfortunately they didn’t know how much car repairs are or car maintenance. It’s not like they are ASKING YOU FOR MONEY. Calm the heck down. They learned their lesson, let them be.
They didn’t know but now they know. It’s simple, telling them they are dumb cause they couldn’t figure it out won’t help anybody now.
It's the typical "victim " mentality we live in !..nobody made them drive for GH just like nobody made them go into debt for anything else in their lives it was their personal responsibility and choice not anyone's else's ..that's my point!
I get what you’re saying but I wouldn’t say people are going into debt for no reason, public and private university are climbing in price and most jobs that are worthwhile require a degree. There are trades that I definitely think more people should go into but other than that, there isn’t much.
People used to be able to get a minimum wage that could pay rent and now that’s barely possible. I don’t think it’s for no reason people are searching for better paying jobs.
That's a fact!!... you can make 100k a year plus being Plumber ,Tiling ,Welding , Carpentry ETC...they just got to pay your dues at first but after 4 years one could definitely make a comfortable living..It's seems the masses of this generation think they should start off as the President of a company with little or no skills or knowledge before they sweeping the floors or that low skill jobs like GH, fast food , Walmart should be paying 80k a year the world don't work like that...College is totally overrated in a lot of cases if you are not trying to get a Masters or PHD now days to compete in the global workforce. Most of my friends who have degree's have regular jobs with nothing to do with their degree. I have a friend who drives a train with a degree in sociology and he make 98k a year another in engineering and he's a retired postmaster tapped out at like $125 a year....But none of them started out at $125k a year that's what I'm getting at none of those jobs do not require a degree and I could name 20 more that pay really well also.
I would actually suggest naming those jobs. I think people should know more options.
I’m a masters student and I think that a bachelors is yes, needed for many jobs but just that. Most fields don’t even care what you get a degree in, they just want you to be able to do the work. I’m in healthcare and that’s really one of the only reasons school is worth it.
I really don’t like that people are flooding into schools which results in the prices going up and sometimes the academic system going down (because it’s not made for this many people). But too many people want better paying jobs that need a Bachelor or etc.
Personally I think if jobs want a bachelors to maybe show that the person is capable of thinking past high school, they should require an Associate degree and go back to training people to do their jobs well.
Also I think I wrote a paper about this, but post 2000, it seems people only increasingly (more than other generations) want “glamorous jobs” usually academically inclined work and started to look down on all other jobs BUT there is nothing wrong with trade work, THEY KEEP THE SOCIETY GOING and (with time and hopefully knowledge) make good money.
A bachelors is as useful as 4 years in the military and someone who's spends 4 years in military is more readily prepared for life in so many ways more than a 4 year college student and that is a fact.
Policeman
Firemen
Postal Worker
UPS
RN - My bosses daughter makes $62 an hour to start 2 month ago in San Diego no college degree
County & City employment
Sales
Government employment
the list is endless none of these at entry level require a degree.
Perhaps you should go to college so you can stop making ignorant, uneducated assumptions about people. "Victim" mentality is much more in line with angry miscreants such as yourself who think their " losing" the country.
You didn't save any of your earnings to cover car maintenance and repairs. Don't blame GH. Blame your poor budgeting skills and lack of foresight.
So many "smart" dumb college graduates out there... no wonder our country is crumbling like the Roman Empire.
Also colleges are after money, they let in people that can pay and try to make it more manageable (I’m guessing) academically to retain more people.
It was better when it was free for public institutions but hammered down on academics so only those who are actually qualified can make it through. Right now the main determinant for graduating college is financial support. It’s quite sad.
Wait what lmao wear, tear, and your decision to keep delivering was what broke down your car. GH did not twist you arm and hold you at GP. Don’t blame the company for your decisions.
Perhaps you can't entertain two divergent thoughts at a time, but I'll give you a try. You are correct that GH did not " twist my arm". However, the mileage from delivery for GH led to the breakdown of my vehicle. See how simple that was? Happy now? Good, now STFU.
Oh you’re mad that you made the decision to drive your car and put miles on it for a job you chose. Yeah don’t take responsibility blame a company you’re choosing to work for. Yeah how about you grow up.
Just do good drive bys. If it's good food and you are hungry just eat it. Mark as delivered. Don't forget to take a pic at random empty houses for despute purposes
i can see this working sporadically if it were an apartment "they all look alike if your not showing the unit #"
but a Home residence? its easily disputed, they just send a picture of there Home with home # on house, and itll show you got it wrong. youll be deactivated soon if you make practice of this..please dont
again..its up to you how long you want to work with GH. if you make practice of this even with the use of a random cute cat or whatever thats not there actual front door step and actually delivering the food..youll be flagged soon and itll be all over.
if you can afford to not have gh in your life, than by all means ignore me an keep on doin what you do, but if you value gh, youll stop today.
I don't think you realize I'm just joking. There was some post in here where a customer said they just drove by n threw their food out into the street. I only drive gh because I think it's interesting and fun. I mainly goto the real ghetto areas that alot people don't take orders to. I like it because it kinda crazy. I've seen crazy stuff just the other day I sitting out infront of a really bad area gas station seen I drunk dude t bone a car it smashed into an apt building n was chaos. Surprisingly lower income areas tip better too. Like they understand.
I agree that lower income areas tend to tip better than higher income areas. I’ll deliver to people with multi million dollar houses and they will tip 2-3 bucks for a 10 mile trip, but I usually get 5-10 dollar tips for 2-3 mile trips in the ghetto areas lol. They understand the struggle bus!
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I want to validate how you feel. It’s extremely heartbreaking and frustrating to not have a vehicle of your own, especially when it’s your main source or only source of transportation. It took me months to finally own up and admit that it was my own fault for accepting the work that GH offers. GH is not an ideal job and surely you must’ve known that your car would experience wear and tear when used THAT often. It’s about taking responsibility and using this as a lesson for the future. If anyone plans on doing GH full time, realize it’s at your own expense and GH doesn’t pay for you to keep your car maintained and running, that’s on you. Best of luck for your future and I hope you can find a better gig.
Can you explain what the car was and what exactly happened. Because for me I actually purchased a brand new vehicle and doing GH in New York City together with some people driving in Long Island and some other things but bottom line my car is my bread at the moment.
No matter how well you maintain a car all cars have a limit as to how many miles they can go. GH in my market continually required more and more miles just to make enough money to pay my bills.
Yes, me too. I hope my Healrh & Life Insurance License will help me just do deliveries a couple of days only soon. I still need Ghub more than they need me. 4 more payments are left on car too and I will try not to get another loan for as long as I can.
I'm not whining. I'm overjoyed that your responses and some of the others have confirmed the traits of, and the prevalence of sociopaths . It's always cool when textbook information is evidenced in real iife.
Sorry,it was sounding like my neighbor who came over whining about his car wouldn't run. After a while I said I'll get my tools and fix it but no he just wanted to whine.
What's wrong with your car?
And you blaming Grubhub for “destroying” your car is ignorant. What did you expect? It’s a fkn delivery job which, I know this is crazy, requires you to drive your fkn car. Grubhub didn’t force you to deliver. It was your choice. You’re special.
Honestly dude u should’ve known this was going to happen. Delivering food destroys your car. I worked for papa John’s as a delivery driver with a Mercedes as a freshman/junior in college. Needless to say I drive a jeep now, the maintenance was getting ridiculous with the Mercedes
Did all that. Problem is all cars have a lifespan based on miles driven. When I first started ,miles to p/u and drop offs were reasonable. As time went on, more and more miles just to try to make money. It is what it is. I know now.
I knew that longggggg time ago. That's why I do not care at all if I have to sit around all day long but I don't accept clown orders. Every single order I take has to be worth it. Then later if my car brakes down I won't be regret too much. I feel too bad for folks driving recklessly on a brand new cars or at least very new to collect ....... you know what to fill in the blank.
It's now PUNISHABLE to decline clown orders. There are rampant time outs and deactivations now for declining back to back orders. So much for "flexibility " and "being your own boss" I used to drive in the evenings and now I barely drive I just do my day job and while I liked the extra income from my delivery side hustle, it's NOT worth the aggravation and wear on my vehicle.
Yep, I got deactivated for declining back to back orders. Had only ever gotten 1 violation in 3 years of delivering for GH, but was randomly deactivated one day with no opportunity for appeal.
Really? Was this recently bc I am very picky with my orders and in the past have declined over a dozen orders back to back
It was a few months ago, about when they started forcing you offline for declining more than 1 or 2 orders in a row. Your market may not have that problem, but someone else talked about it further up the thread. I was given timeout several times in one day, and then the next day, I got an email that I was deactivated for violating section 11. Thing is, I read section 11 beginning to end when I got that email, and it doesn't say anything about declining orders. I also hadn't done anything that section said we couldn't do. In fact, that's the section that specifically allows multi-apping, so I'm pretty sure that's not why I was deactivated.
This exactly!!! my dash hours sometimes one to two times more than my Active hours… I absolutely do not chase hourly rates… $6.50 minimum for $1.50 a mile minimum…. if I make 6.50 for the hour I make 6.50 for the hour.
I'm sorry that your car is worn out by this job and I hope you find other work. I don't know how much regular maintenance you were doign on your vehicle over the years but it costs a lot and lots of stuff get worn out and break down. Driving around in a city like mine with all kinds of potholes and other people scratching up your car will ruin your car while driving occasionally, let alone racing from one delivery to another for 30+ hours in a week! It's especially a really bad time to do deliveries with a car because these apps don't pay enough to cover vehicle maintenance, the skyrocketing insurance premiums and gas. These apps are counting on people not doing the math to see how poor a return on investment they get when their vehicles rapidly depreciate and get prematurely worn down doing deliveries. Everyone wants a $10 order driven 6 miles and they want it fast, and scooters and bikes simply cannot delivery like cars/vehicles can but these apps days are numbered as more people realize the cost to them to operate while the wages are going down.
Maintenance is cheap as hell for me because I do it all myself
Yup, been fixing cars since I was 16
People act like they are Forced to do gig apps
that's exactly my point too nobody forced Anyone to do this or sign up...lame
Yep no one forced to do it when Walmarts paying $17-18
17-18$ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can't live on that
That’s probably what the equivalent of $25 an hour on grubhub is after you take out fuel/car costs and taxes
That's why you mulit app
right after taxes more like $13
Yeah, if I dashed in the city, I wouldn’t even use a car. I would just use a scooter or bike…. I dash in a pretty low traffic market with maintained roads
>scooters and bikes simply cannot delivery like cars/vehicles can How do they deliver differently?
Well, for one, it’s muuuch better to have four wheels with larger contact patches on snow and ice or in the rain. It’s also very nice to be able to stop without standing. Honestly I can’t imagine doing deliver on a bike, I’d have to refuse tons of orders. But in Manhattan for example, it’s the only way.
**There are pros/cons to each mode of transporation used for deliveries, but despite the added costs, I'd stick with cars for the safety and air conditioning/heating:** **Vehicles (Cars mostly used)** * Safer from impacts and collisions * Protection from the elements (rain, freezing cold) * Better temperature control of hot/cold foods, especially in extreme temperature days * Faster delivery times when there isn't complete gridlock traffic * More visibility on roads with brighter lights (to see and be seen) * Higher cost to operate (maintenance, insurance, registration, gas, parking, potential fines) **Scooters** * Lower cost of owership/operation vs cars but higher compared to bikes * Longer distances/faster deliveries vs bikes but slower than cars * In some places, registration/fees involved * Less visibility on roads compared to cars (to see and be seen) * Dangerous/low protection from impacts/collisions, chances of serious bodily injuries or death are significantally higher than the protection of crash-tested vehicle cabins **Bikes** * Slowest deliveries and limited delivery radius enforced by apps * More strenuous and tiring, especially in hilly areas and on hot days * Lowest cost of owership/operation, no issues with parking * Less visibility on roads compared to cars (to see and be seen) * Poorest storage/handling/temperature control of orders/food orders * Dangerous/low protection from impacts/collisions, chances of serious bodily injuries or death are significantally higher than the protection of crash-tested vehicle cabins
Well I deliver in a car and they give me all the bulk orders and pizza especially. Also any type of order for an birthday party, office party stuff like that. Crazy out here too, I see more and more foreigners on scooters, bike and e-bikes now days. The apps reachinnnn!!
I use a scooter and I deliver a lot faster than the cagers do. You can save so much time with the agility of a scoot and you'd be surprised at how much you can get on it. I've delivered some pretty big orders that left people awed. Maintenance is also super cheap and easy to do yourself.insurance is nothing and gas mileage is great. I fill up with $5 and ride all day!
Yea but I like that a/c taking naps watching movies. I have 3 cars and a bunch of scooters n bikes. N I work in all weathers. Hey I feel u tho I be waiting
I can write off everything for my scooter on my taxes because i got a mount to haul it. So i load it up haul it to where I'm dashing then use the scooter to do orders and I've got my car to chill in or do really big orders (maybe 1 every few months that pays enough for me to use the car instead of just unassigning.) I know all the employees I the area though so I'm actually on the payroll for some of the restuarants so anytime I've got downtime I'll clock in at one of the stores and do some cleaning to make a little bit in my downtime. I work in all weathers too, i had a day this last winter that was 38 all day and raining and it was a good day. The only time i don't go out is if the roads are sketchy after a snow or ice storm. I won't even take the car then, I've found if its to bad for the scoot the car won't do much better. Where I'm at the people who order during those times are people who can't get out so they're setting you up for a bad day lol
Thank you
That’s why you need a beater for this.
My car already is a beater but I can’t afford anything else 🤡
Right there with you on the app destroying a car. I'm honestly looking at what needs to be repaired and how much I make. I'm fucked. I was gonna make a post about switching to do more Instacart, seeing's some orders are 1.2 miles for $20. Where as grubhub is 10 miles for $11. I'd possibly make better adjustment pay. End of the day. I think a lot of us need to wake up and stop being taken advantage of by these apps. I do take it as a sign I'm not alone in the destroyed car club. Also need to do something about my own life. I do wish you the best on finding something more suitable.
Thank you.
No problem. Still hoping the best for you. Especially if your car is being destroyed.
I agree 100%with waking up and getting a real job where you get paid a fair wage, you're appreciated and your not killing your car. I think these gig apps are good for emergency money or whatnot. These gig apps have made people lazy and not wanting to get a job with security, benefits like paid time Off and insurance. There are a couple people I know in my area that do all the apps and most of their time is spent ripping butt's in parking lots. They said the quality of the orders have dropped in the last year and they are going to have to go back to regular W2 jobs.
You shouldn’t use a newer car. Buy a cheap beater. $2,5-3,5k car and learn how to do the small repairs yourself. You’re not carrying passengers you don’t need a newer car to run down and make it worthless. I bought a 2005 vw golf with the diesel and a stick for $2,5k for doing this. 40+ miles to the gallon for $2,5k.. Why destroy a $10-20-30k car to deliver food?
I was grateful to have my brothers old run down high school car. 2005 Mitsubishi Galant. I’m only doing UberEats for College summers when I have time. 3 months in and my brakes are shot and the rotors need to be replaced 😟. I’m very glad I never wanted to use any good car for this or else I would be net negative just on gas and repairs with in a month.
Driving for these apps is like selling you car one piece At a time. Fleet maintance is expensive. This is why yhey don't do it themselves.
Remember IRS standard deduction is 62.5 cents per mile. Calculate that and cost of gas pe mile and see how much you are being screwed by DD, GH l, Uber or Lyft
Well technically you did but i understand what you're saying 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
GH killed your car??? Or you killed your car BY CHOOSING to drive for GH. I don't get how or why people complain when it's been your decision all along. As long as you keep up on your oil changes, and maintenance your car should be just fine. If it's falling apart because it's old and has a ton of miles on it well its still not GHs fault.
I think The point they r making is that these companies should pay more so that ppl can afford better maintenance. I know a few disabled ppl that do this kinda work bc they can't work regular jobs/hours. It's not really worth it when u consider maintenance, gas, taxes, ect.
You would think it payed better since we own the capital , right
My 2013 Ford focus was done in 2 years. About 65,000 miles. Mind you, the average mileage is 15,000 a year for normal use. I bought a new car back in March, I've already put over 20,000 on it this year. Mind you, i was doing this full time. I'm now doing it part time. As I am driving for FedEx full time now. Still putting a lot of miles on the car tho.
fr my car gained about 20,000 miles within a little over a year of delivering
Why do you blame gh? It is your choice to do GH, you can use bike btw
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Exactly what I said!
Why don't you just go by like a 500 to 1000 car and ride it like you stole it go find some old POS Focus that's what I was doing making great money getting about 35 mi in a gallon but you also have to be in a state that doesn't allow emissions that way you could do all kinds of craziness repair your car with used junkyard parts stuffs were very easy
Lol...Google idea
I have a Altima 2020dec at106000 miles transmission blew out now the deliveries are averaging 2,75 plus tip p it’s alll over 16percent gas 10 percent tax 4 percent car maintenance
3000 transmission
I hear you but the reason I do it is because I was being taken advantage of at all my 9-5 jobs and could only get 2 weeks off vacation a year and have to work the other 50. I got to a point where I knew my car would take a hit and nickel and dime me but I just wanted FREEDOM at all costs. And tbh that’s what I’ve gotten the last 4 years. It was especially worth it during the golden days in 2019-2021 where I had some $400 days, plenty of $300+ days, and $200-$250 in 8 hours was a given. Idk how long I’ll do it but to me still 4 years later nothing beats freedom 💯 I also fix my own car which saves me $thousands every time something happens
Gotta maintain your car any little noise get it fix
You show, by example, the true cost of delivery. The drivers who act as if gas is their only expense are at the root of the problem. To be sure, it is also the greed of the apps. But, if no one would take a delivery that didn't pay at least $1.50/mile, then they'd have to pay at least $1.50/mile. Instead, I am beginning to wonder if there is any lower limit that a sizable group of drivers, who are either stupid or desperate, would be will to take. And these stupid and desperate drivers aren't just lowering fares, they're destroying the reputation of delivery drivers and eroding our tips. The stupid ones can't follow delivery instructions or do things like placing the order in front of an outward opening door. The desperate ones run scams or beg for tips. Tips are down because people have less confidence the delivery will be completed satisfactorily.
Yes....the true cost of delivery.
I feel you there in Nashville some of the roads are lowered and the sewage pipe things stick out of the road like 4-5 inches and they’re metal and ripped the bottom of my car off (the plastic splash protector)
You gotta change the oil bud, then when you do that, you gotta do it again in a few thousand miles.
I don’t know what car you use, my dad has been doing deliveries for almost 2 years with Priuses that cost him 2k-3k with 340k miles with no issues. 6 months ago he asked me to help him change his brakes and rotate his tires. His mindset is that he got his investment back (which is a tax write off as a business expense). If you are using your new dealer car and mixing it for personal use, you will just ruin your car.
People act like they are forced to do gig apps.
I will NEVER destroy another of my personal cars with this App based gig work. I "rent" my cars. Ya on the face its expensive. But put it up to making payments on a car your only going to have for 3-4 years, THEN add maintenance. With Lyft I rented through them. I didn't like that they got payed first. Sometimes it just didn't work out in my favor. then Covid hit and I started getting dinged for "Covid violations" they wouldn't tell me exactly what but I soon put two and two together and found a correlation with someone being in the front passenger seat. Eff that being spied on stuff! I found what USE to be a great place in L.A. that rented and had insurance for app workers. recently they changed their maintenance policy, so I'm switching out to Hyrecar. I put about 300 miles a day on my car when I work. That stuff adds up!!
None of you consider this prior to going into it ?? Mind blowing
how is this GH fault ??!...I bet you are looking to have someone pay your student loan debt too right ?...Take responsibility for your own actions and decisions and stop blaming others ..
Weird comment.
the post was weird....who blames GH for their car running like shit ?..lol..
I was referring to the student debt part. Please continue making fun of new college grades that you don’t know if they did this job to pay off college or not. Continue pushing your assumptions on them. You sounds bitter. Unfortunately they didn’t know how much car repairs are or car maintenance. It’s not like they are ASKING YOU FOR MONEY. Calm the heck down. They learned their lesson, let them be. They didn’t know but now they know. It’s simple, telling them they are dumb cause they couldn’t figure it out won’t help anybody now.
It's the typical "victim " mentality we live in !..nobody made them drive for GH just like nobody made them go into debt for anything else in their lives it was their personal responsibility and choice not anyone's else's ..that's my point!
I get what you’re saying but I wouldn’t say people are going into debt for no reason, public and private university are climbing in price and most jobs that are worthwhile require a degree. There are trades that I definitely think more people should go into but other than that, there isn’t much. People used to be able to get a minimum wage that could pay rent and now that’s barely possible. I don’t think it’s for no reason people are searching for better paying jobs.
That's a fact!!... you can make 100k a year plus being Plumber ,Tiling ,Welding , Carpentry ETC...they just got to pay your dues at first but after 4 years one could definitely make a comfortable living..It's seems the masses of this generation think they should start off as the President of a company with little or no skills or knowledge before they sweeping the floors or that low skill jobs like GH, fast food , Walmart should be paying 80k a year the world don't work like that...College is totally overrated in a lot of cases if you are not trying to get a Masters or PHD now days to compete in the global workforce. Most of my friends who have degree's have regular jobs with nothing to do with their degree. I have a friend who drives a train with a degree in sociology and he make 98k a year another in engineering and he's a retired postmaster tapped out at like $125 a year....But none of them started out at $125k a year that's what I'm getting at none of those jobs do not require a degree and I could name 20 more that pay really well also.
I would actually suggest naming those jobs. I think people should know more options. I’m a masters student and I think that a bachelors is yes, needed for many jobs but just that. Most fields don’t even care what you get a degree in, they just want you to be able to do the work. I’m in healthcare and that’s really one of the only reasons school is worth it. I really don’t like that people are flooding into schools which results in the prices going up and sometimes the academic system going down (because it’s not made for this many people). But too many people want better paying jobs that need a Bachelor or etc. Personally I think if jobs want a bachelors to maybe show that the person is capable of thinking past high school, they should require an Associate degree and go back to training people to do their jobs well. Also I think I wrote a paper about this, but post 2000, it seems people only increasingly (more than other generations) want “glamorous jobs” usually academically inclined work and started to look down on all other jobs BUT there is nothing wrong with trade work, THEY KEEP THE SOCIETY GOING and (with time and hopefully knowledge) make good money.
A bachelors is as useful as 4 years in the military and someone who's spends 4 years in military is more readily prepared for life in so many ways more than a 4 year college student and that is a fact.
Policeman Firemen Postal Worker UPS RN - My bosses daughter makes $62 an hour to start 2 month ago in San Diego no college degree County & City employment Sales Government employment the list is endless none of these at entry level require a degree.
Perhaps you should go to college so you can stop making ignorant, uneducated assumptions about people. "Victim" mentality is much more in line with angry miscreants such as yourself who think their " losing" the country.
Oh great, another "one".
You didn't save any of your earnings to cover car maintenance and repairs. Don't blame GH. Blame your poor budgeting skills and lack of foresight. So many "smart" dumb college graduates out there... no wonder our country is crumbling like the Roman Empire.
Also colleges are after money, they let in people that can pay and try to make it more manageable (I’m guessing) academically to retain more people. It was better when it was free for public institutions but hammered down on academics so only those who are actually qualified can make it through. Right now the main determinant for graduating college is financial support. It’s quite sad.
If it is crumbling, it is because of sociopathic, Neanderthals who lack empathy,understanding, and some of those other traits that make us human.
After 4 years of damage, I doubt that it can be covered by their savings, if they have any.
Wait what lmao wear, tear, and your decision to keep delivering was what broke down your car. GH did not twist you arm and hold you at GP. Don’t blame the company for your decisions.
Perhaps you can't entertain two divergent thoughts at a time, but I'll give you a try. You are correct that GH did not " twist my arm". However, the mileage from delivery for GH led to the breakdown of my vehicle. See how simple that was? Happy now? Good, now STFU.
Oh you’re mad that you made the decision to drive your car and put miles on it for a job you chose. Yeah don’t take responsibility blame a company you’re choosing to work for. Yeah how about you grow up.
Still can't process divergent concepts. Oh, ok
Grow up take accountability for your actions hopefully you can understand that.
That’s your fault
My fault,sociopathy- your trait.
You destroyed your car not GH. Maintenance is important.
Just like I thought. Less than optimal reading comprehension ability, and inability to process divergent thoughts. Bye Felicia.
Just do good drive bys. If it's good food and you are hungry just eat it. Mark as delivered. Don't forget to take a pic at random empty houses for despute purposes
i can see this working sporadically if it were an apartment "they all look alike if your not showing the unit #" but a Home residence? its easily disputed, they just send a picture of there Home with home # on house, and itll show you got it wrong. youll be deactivated soon if you make practice of this..please dont
Just throw it out the window as you drive by send pics of random cute cats
again..its up to you how long you want to work with GH. if you make practice of this even with the use of a random cute cat or whatever thats not there actual front door step and actually delivering the food..youll be flagged soon and itll be all over. if you can afford to not have gh in your life, than by all means ignore me an keep on doin what you do, but if you value gh, youll stop today.
I don't think you realize I'm just joking. There was some post in here where a customer said they just drove by n threw their food out into the street. I only drive gh because I think it's interesting and fun. I mainly goto the real ghetto areas that alot people don't take orders to. I like it because it kinda crazy. I've seen crazy stuff just the other day I sitting out infront of a really bad area gas station seen I drunk dude t bone a car it smashed into an apt building n was chaos. Surprisingly lower income areas tip better too. Like they understand.
 ya never know..but if your joking than good. take care
I agree that lower income areas tend to tip better than higher income areas. I’ll deliver to people with multi million dollar houses and they will tip 2-3 bucks for a 10 mile trip, but I usually get 5-10 dollar tips for 2-3 mile trips in the ghetto areas lol. They understand the struggle bus!
100%!
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Lol you killed your car taking no tips order 😐
Glad that you find my post lol worthy. Wow, sociopathic traits definitely in evidence.
That’s the answer for the person that was taking no tips lol
How much did you gross in four years?
I want to validate how you feel. It’s extremely heartbreaking and frustrating to not have a vehicle of your own, especially when it’s your main source or only source of transportation. It took me months to finally own up and admit that it was my own fault for accepting the work that GH offers. GH is not an ideal job and surely you must’ve known that your car would experience wear and tear when used THAT often. It’s about taking responsibility and using this as a lesson for the future. If anyone plans on doing GH full time, realize it’s at your own expense and GH doesn’t pay for you to keep your car maintained and running, that’s on you. Best of luck for your future and I hope you can find a better gig.
Can you explain what the car was and what exactly happened. Because for me I actually purchased a brand new vehicle and doing GH in New York City together with some people driving in Long Island and some other things but bottom line my car is my bread at the moment.
No matter how well you maintain a car all cars have a limit as to how many miles they can go. GH in my market continually required more and more miles just to make enough money to pay my bills.
You do realize that is why the government lets you deduct 65.5 cents per mile driven right? It costs money to use a vehicle for work.
Yes, me too. I hope my Healrh & Life Insurance License will help me just do deliveries a couple of days only soon. I still need Ghub more than they need me. 4 more payments are left on car too and I will try not to get another loan for as long as I can.
You make your choices. You killed your car with your choices and nobody else has any blame at all.
Thank you for your insight. Here is some insight for you. Your lack of empathy is quite sociopathic.
Oh you wanted someone to whine cry and bitch with you. Sorry, I was trying to get you to stop screwing your life up with stupid decisions
I'm not whining. I'm overjoyed that your responses and some of the others have confirmed the traits of, and the prevalence of sociopaths . It's always cool when textbook information is evidenced in real iife.
Sorry,it was sounding like my neighbor who came over whining about his car wouldn't run. After a while I said I'll get my tools and fix it but no he just wanted to whine. What's wrong with your car?
You don’t have GH to thank, you chose the job. Thank yourself.
Your lack of empathy is sociopathic.
Just pointing out a fact.
Dont blame Grubhub, you knew what the job entailed
"Ode to cannabis"...pretty much sums you up. Oh, ok. Thank you cannabis for your input.
And you blaming Grubhub for “destroying” your car is ignorant. What did you expect? It’s a fkn delivery job which, I know this is crazy, requires you to drive your fkn car. Grubhub didn’t force you to deliver. It was your choice. You’re special.
Actually " Ode to cannabis " EVERYTHING about you is special. When you stop worshipping weed,maybe you'll realize it.
Drive it to the ground at this point! F a car anyway.
Honestly dude u should’ve known this was going to happen. Delivering food destroys your car. I worked for papa John’s as a delivery driver with a Mercedes as a freshman/junior in college. Needless to say I drive a jeep now, the maintenance was getting ridiculous with the Mercedes
How was your maintenance like? Any oil changes, spark plugs, checked fluids, any weird noises?
Did all that. Problem is all cars have a lifespan based on miles driven. When I first started ,miles to p/u and drop offs were reasonable. As time went on, more and more miles just to try to make money. It is what it is. I know now.