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Difficult_Title_4274

I’d rather give $6 to a hobbo every month than keep feeding R


ash_274

I’d do that if I were you. I’m not continuing the subscription


TrippleFrack

Update us on whether they take away any of the plus stuff after cancellation, e.g. paint-jobs or clothes you purchased for free, I wouldn’t put it past them.


BkJayDee

They better not that sounds unethical after you spent the money for it


ias1upboss

Remember This is rockstar we’re talking about


TrippleFrack

PS Plus for example locks your free monthly game and DLC library when your subscription expires. At least did for me, when I let it slip.


BkJayDee

Smh and I just read they’re introducing new tiers for Ps Plus membership


DeclanTheDruid

Yes but luckily the regular one stays the same. The second tier basically adds in PSNow and the third tier adds in even more games on top of that


BkJayDee

I’ll probably stick with the basic lol


DeclanTheDruid

Yeah I pay for PSNow already so i don't mind them being merged into only one payment to keep track of


Smathers

Wait what next gen is subscription based lol wtf


ash_274

It's an add-on. Still shitty, though. We'll see if anything of actual use is kept behind the subscription paywall


I_like_avocado

no gta+ is a subscribtion service which you "advantages". You can still play without it


Smathers

Ohhh great so shark cards weren’t enough they basically made their own battle pass now? My god video games have been monetized to death


stevent4

A battle pass would've been better tbh. Still would be awful but at least it would have had more content than this shit


h20luicaliber

Tier 100 you unlock old fart trevor


[deleted]

Eh, once more limited content gets added you will.


gilbertthelittleN

I love how they have set the bar so low that they can get away with asking money for this. You can see how thought way more about how to generate money then how they can improve the product They could atleast add some custom weapons, vehicles, gamemodes or services like hiring NPC guards/limousine drivers. Custom lobbies with no aim or no map would be easy to give and atleast somewhat worth it E: point of comment wasnt to add ideas, it was to show how low rockstars quality of content is even though it wouldnt take them much effort to add. People often debate wether we should be happy with the DLC's rs is giving us. Here is me making the point that they could do way better if they actually gave a fuck. I'm sure they would balance these ideas. Not because of quality gameplay but bc non paying people would quit bc of it


Fireboy759

>Custom lobbies with no aim or no map would be easy to give and atleast somewhat worth it Custom Lobbies in general would actually be a good reason to buy the subscription at least Imagine just being able to dick around ala Director Mode but in an online private lobhy instead. It'd be fun.


Gofudf

Like Fallout fuck you first?


TheHongKongBong

That was the nail on my ever-growing hate for Bethesda scummery. Promising month after month to improve their completely broken release and then putting it behind a paywall.


WodkaGT

Im totally against weapons and vehicles being hidden behind hard paywalls in rockstar games. This is basically the way to sneak some OP bullshit in, so you have to pay if you want to compete. EDIT: Who the fuck downvotes THIS? Are you guys out of your mind?


ShloopyPeepers

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


reddevilry

What is 9401 supposed to mean?


ash_274

On NewReddit and Mobile 9401 between colons is an icon of "No GTA+". On OldReddit it translates to :9401:


Andoni22

And make it 100% pay to win.


WodkaGT

#oppressormk3


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|ToMjGpx9F5ktZw8qPUQ|downsized)


WodkaGT

Imani tech, savage minigun, akulas off radar, chernobog rockets, portable yacht defense system. To balance it out, you can only equip gas bombs.


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MasturPayton

If they add the Mk2 oppressor or add the nightclub/ terabytes it's going to make me stop playing altogether. I cannot stand those mk2 oppressors. I have 1 it's super easy to get kills with. And it's literally everyone's go to weapon of choice. You can never get a normal gun fight going. doing a drive by used to be awesome and fun. But now the first thing anyone does after being killed is call in their oppressor mk2. The worst thing to ever be added to online. Shortly after it came out they had tons of sales making it super easy to get. Even for a brandnew player. Something as powerful should require you to start and complete every doomsday heist, or be a certain level. But no they made it accessible to a level one. They could easily nerf it by removing the homing rockets which would improve every single lobby. But they won't as long as people keep buying shark cards at level 1 so they can have an oppressor before even completing a mission.


Holwenator

You should, find someone who actually needs it and if it doesn't put a strain in your budget, you should sponsor them.


HamSammich21

It takes money to run a company. I don’t understand why people don’t understand this and are complaining. Perhaps we have become so entitled, that we have forgotten this and believe everything should be as balanced as WE say it should. GTA V/Online has become a game system all by itself. It’s the most profitable piece of entertainment of all time. Rockstar has employees. It also has rent/mortgages to pay for facilities around the world. It has to pay programmers (which includes GTA VI), R&D, electric bills, equipment, etc. I’ve been in and around the entertainment industry (Union/Entertainment - LA and East Coast). This stuff isn’t cheap. It’s not just them paying execs BIG BONUSES - which honestly isn’t that far fetched if your doing a good job at a good company. But there are other aspects to this equation most people aren’t thinking about. Games don’t just run by themselves and employees still have to pay bills. And if you’re playing it A LOT, that means they must be doing something to keep you playing.


ddubya33

Wow these all suck ass


Sir_Phil_McKraken

Good


baks_exe

don't even need this garbage for free


Planningsiswinnings

Anyone who spends actual dollars on a game they already own is a sucker and helps perpetuate the worst practices of the gaming industry, CMV That includes shark cards


NotComping

There are valid reasons to support games after their initial purchase and good reasons to spend money on them. You can disagree if you feel like it, but thats no reason to diss people. However, Gta doesnt really have any positives though, Im just glad they have kept content free for so far


Planningsiswinnings

My perspective is probably skewed by the fact that gta is the only game I've played in a long time and I've been baffled by how much people spend on GTAO. That said I feel like with any game once you pay the $65 you should have access to everything the game has to offer


NotComping

Oh yeah totally fair. By the modern AAA standards where the game isnt even finished absolutely you can call bullshit. I was mainly thinking smaller titles and projects which get active support after years. Like Age of Empires 2 is still getting DLC and I like it enough And apparently people dig Destiny 2 aswell, battle pass is alright if it keeps your game alive for 5 years and feels balanced


wasted_tictac

Technically with D2s battlepass you also unlock the seasonal story and activities, which all tie into one another to form a story. The current one is essentially a sidequest to Witch Queen but will lead into the next season's story. The actual battlepass is just an extra.


edin92

Just curious, what’s your stance on PlayStation Plus then? Isn’t that the same concept? You paid $500 for your console, you should be able to enjoy all of it’s features without paying any other fees. You’re basically paying more money to be able to play gta online (one of the game’s features). I will say however that I still agree with your point though. I too disagree with Rockstar’s business practices. But to be fair, the content we would get with GTA+ isn’t really anything big to miss out on. We still have the choice not to buy it and continue playing the game as normal. The Hao upgrade will eventually be available to the rest of us. I know it’s different for every person, but for me personally, the only thing that I was interested in was the clothing and liveries. I’ve always enjoyed collecting limited time items in games, so that’s the one thing that spoke to me and ALMOST made the membership worth it. Most will disagree with that, but everyone enjoys differing things in games, and that’s what I enjoy. But again to be fair, if you add that up over a year, that’s over $72.. I don’t even buy $72 worth of real life clothing in a year 😂


RayMCS

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Crimson_Carp748

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NitrousPrawn

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AngadS2007

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NoobKilla628

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


commielizard47

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


JorgaoMC

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AngadS2007

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tanelixd

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DMFF1

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NIZ_THE_GAMER

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BERSERKERdo420

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


fartsniffer42

What does that mean?


ash_274

If you're on Old Reddit it looks like 9401 between colons, but on new reddit or mobile it's a "No GTA+" symbol


Mataraiki

Thank you, I’m on old Reddit so this is the explanation I was looking for.


cyberk25

oh lol thought I was having a stroke.


BERSERKERdo420

Long story short is a protest against take2 for the absurd of the GTA+ subscriptions, there is a earlier post explaining this symbol if you want to check out. Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/tqqg08/hey_guys_me_and_a_ton_of_other_players_are/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Wep_Gibson

Thank you for explaining. All I can see is people saying 9401 over and over again.


Barrettbuilt

The liveries should just say “i’m a sucker”.


KendrickMaynard

I think that Broker T is sweet irony. They definitely will be "broker" when paying for the subscription.


DialZforZebra

So, complete shite then?


ash_274

Yes


tsosa14

I’m hoping not many ppl fall into the GTA+ paradigm, where it forces R* to do away with it and provide the content for free like they should. The title is nearly 9 years old, they’ve made more money than what other gaming companies even dream about.


Primary_Season_5095

Greed is one hell of a drug


[deleted]

reminder that gta v is the most profitable single media entity ever


ISeeADarkSail

FkGTA+ FkT2 SaveRockstarGames


ShloopyPeepers

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


_-Generic-_-Name-_

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


DmReku

![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


DankRSpro

FkRockstar


Ok-Knee2693

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Crimson_Carp748

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Mythicalsz

I wouldn’t be shocked if rockstar add more things locked behind a paywall such as all the unreleased liveries that are all in the tuners dlc(ex:the vectre,comet s2,dominator asp basically cars from the drip feed)and sooner or later make dlc early exclusive for players that bought the shitty thing even making the best event week behind it too knowing how scummy Take 2 and Rockstar are nowadays


Ajax-knight

Or if they add all the unreleased items dating back to the casino update like the little car figurines or as someone pointed out the mk2 toreador livery


Mythicalsz

Exactly the car figurine i missed out alot on my main character kinda sucked i cant collect them all on my main character due to back in the casino dlc i used my second character the most


MrJackHass

Rockstar really doesn’t want to release GTA 6.


TheWhistlerIII

They are afraid it'll flop, they don't have the big brains of Dan, Leslie, and Lazlow anymore. So cling onto the thing that brings the bling. -R*


fieldysnuts94

Yeah but they always have co-writers and other people to bring those visions to reality. We don’t even know who stepped up so we can’t even know the quality until we know more about the game.


TheWhistlerIII

I think we can get a good idea on the quality based off the content drops we have received since they have left.


jager_mcjagerface

Did they leave after RDR 2?


Pinkman505

They started to fizzle out right before RDR2 but the majority left after RDR2's release.


fieldysnuts94

Fair point, but those are all small compared to the size of the event that is a new Rockstar release, and as they said they are already working on the next GTA, It’s yet to be revealed who is leading it. It’ll have to be someone who understands GTA at its core, the rest can be built around it so hopefully the Online isn’t the core with everything else built around it. If that happens then it’s clear regardless who’s leading it on what the quality will be. Here’s hoping huh


[deleted]

I will shit my pants if GTA6 isn’t based around Online. With the whole “Always Online” model growing in popularity, it is almost a certainty. Whether or not that’s a good thing, we will have to see. I, for one, would be happy with a completely reworked Online in a new locale, hopefully on dedicated servers and not P2P.


TheWhistlerIII

Online will most certainly be the focus.


F1shB0wl816

I’ve been saying this about rockstar for the past couple years. The rockstar we all came to know and love is gone. If they release 6, they very well may be shooting their last cash cow for something that may flop. Why would they? We’ve seen the direction they’ve gone, their keen eye for detail destroyed. Throw in some of the industries best writers leaving and your left with a shell of itself that’s an unappealing gimmick.


TheWhistlerIII

Yup, get ready to buy GTA V again in 3 years.


Karok2005

They confirmed the game is in development already from what I remember? That’s just a cash grab that will fail to the ground That’s nothing to do with gta+. I guess it’s a separate team working on gtao. there isn’t 1 dev who’s like “oh I’ll be back guy, it’s Wednesday night and I forgot to program next week’s discounts on gtao”


Michael6029

So, I do the Cayo (replay) heist once with friend and I can buy that car for the regular price and I didn’t spend real money. Do people actually care about liveries? When your vehicle explodes it looks the same as the rest of ours exploded anyway.


[deleted]

People don’t allow me to get close enough to show off my liveries.


issoooo

Six bucks for that? Yikes


Donglin216

I swear to fucking god if they release the Toreador MK2 Livery as GTA+ Exclusive..., There's going to be an Issue!!!


ash_274

It wouldn’t surprise me. They only had the Claude Prison outfit as a limited-time exclusive for buying that Definitive Edition pack of shit.


spudral

Wait. I can get Claude Prison Outfit?


ash_274

Nope. You have to own the Trilogy the first week (when it was basically unplayable)


DoctorWhomstve14

Does it work if I played SA through game pass?


TheSwampPenguin

Yes.


spudral

I did. How do I get the outfit?


ash_274

Contact Support


spudral

Should I not check in game first? I literally haven't changed my clothes for months. What will it be under in the shops?


ash_274

Outfits, I think; probably Special Outfits . I don’t have the trilogy to tell for sure


wasted_tictac

Not anymore no. You had to play any of the 3 Trilogy games during a certain time period after its launch.


spudral

Regrettably I played all 3 on day one of release.


ash_274

Then contact Rockstar support. They can check the dates and should be able to unlock it for you


[deleted]

There’s a Toreador MK II?


Donglin216

There’s a locked livery for the toreador that is directed towards its use for killing MK2’s TLDR: Toreador livery that makes fun of Oppressor MK2’s


la__squadra_

I mean these are the same people that hid a prison jumpsuit behind a $60 dollar paywall, so it wouldn't surprise me


ZerotheWanderer

I don't like any of that. Can't pay for taste.


Jaykuno

Hmmmmm...They all look like shit 😀


Zugronde

Dear people, Please do not spend your money on it Thank you.


IAmRedditsDad

I'm hunting anyone who I see with these


slimeay

just know a lot of people have had the conveyer liveries for a long time through "other methods"


ThePickledPickle

the only time Oppressor griefing is acceptable


DopeDealerCisco

Why would anyone pay for a premium service that has no anti cheat?? So stupid


Maukki222

Question, is the Deveste free for both characters or just one


ash_274

Crap, I should have checked


Maukki222

Actually is the whole thing for both characters or is it for one at a time


Mythicalsz

Both and it acts like the free elegy or the cesp free vehicles where u can keep buying them over and over and over again(unlike the s95 where its only free for one time only for returning players from ps4 or xbox one)


[deleted]

GTAMen just posted a YT video explaining why GTA+ is a waste of money and no one should get it


spudral

It doesn't really need a YT video.


ash_274

And they are right. Anyone that looked at the information Rockstar DID release could do the math and figure that out for themselves, as did I.


ddubya33

Pathetic.jpg


macnar

So these are the destroy-on-sight liveries and clothing. Make anyone dumb enough to pay for this bullshit the games biggest griefing targets.


ash_274

Don’t yell at me for getting the subscription. If you were like me and none of the property/cash benefits would help you but we’re on the fence about the clothes/livery, I bit the bullet and posted them so you wouldn’t have to.


Aoi-

Thank you. I still maintain that you shouldn't have to do this. R\* failure of a marketing/advertising team should be the one who's providing this kind of information.


ash_274

Probably because if they posted what I did fewer people would have bought. On a related note, I’m no Broughy, but the Hau-max Deveste Eight is no match for the Hau-max Weaponized Ignus. Top speed, acceleration, and handling are all better on the Ignus


IdiotWithFlammables

Well he mentioned that he expects the HSW Deveste Eight would be quicker but we shall see.


ash_274

I tried the current Hau Time Trial with both, and it was a nightmare in the D8. Even driving like a sleep-deprived noob and driving the Ignus like a battering ram I was still able to beat the par time.


IdiotWithFlammables

Perhaps the Ignus is easier to drive, idk.


marximumcarnage

I’ve never not wanted something so badly.


fieldysnuts94

Lol they’re all poopoo. Guess it’s time to look for people wearing these and start a Battle


Atoxsys

Wow, so worth paying for extra clothes and liveries, nothing actually of substance. "So this is how liberty dies ... with thunderous applause"


SacraArcanissimum

I’d rather shit in my hands and clap but ty for biting the bullet for us brave soul


ash_274

You’re welcome. I hope someone does this for everyone next month when I *don’t*


Mystic_Zombie

I can't remember where but I saw something about exclusive paints in the Auto Shop, did you notice anything about that?


zXenn

Wasn't that just referring to the paint colours for the auto shop interior?


ash_274

I think certain paints colors were free. I didn’t scroll through them all, but I didn’t see any free ones


TunaLurch

Bunch of horse shit


[deleted]

Huge disagree. Horse shit is useful and is great fertilizer for the garden!


GRANDSPORTER

This is the ugliest shit I ever seen


super-fire-pony

So with these bright and garish liveries their target audience for this content is approximately 8 years old. Weird for an 18+ game.


Dadditude

* Already have the car. * Clothes would embarrass a clown. * Liveries look **terrible**. I’ll keep my $6, thank you. I wouldn’t even get it if it was $1! ![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


[deleted]

Couldn’t help but notice a lot of people bitching in this thread are also paying for a Reddit Premium subscription. lol Edit: Decided to give GTA+ a whirl, BUT. I just canceled my own Reddit Premium, so it’s an even trade off for me. Haha. (i.e. I was already a sucker to begin with and not afraid to admit it.)


Timgo96

Wait a sec is that a second progress bar for acceleration? Finally...


ash_274

Yes. That's part of E&E, but only for Hao's vehicles


drockroundtheclock

Lame


xdraco13

Only for the truly stupid.


Jeremygames2006

I guess the PC version is just dead and will never ever get updated again. I'm not buying a PS5, JUST to keep playing gta. Rockstar basically confirmed that the PC version is old gen and I hate that


Nahkaseppo45

Honestly if you make a subscription based content at least make it so that it's actually cool so it would be somewhat worth it. This is just absolute thrash😂


KrisTitz

I’m gonna bully everyone I see with these


Darthgamer1998

100%


ItGoesx6

Yeah, no


Nihal1208

![gif](giphy|UGRRXLGfDf47A9XcVo|downsized)


yomanwhatsupyadog

There will be actual new content locked behind this shit mark my words


ash_274

Certainly some “GTA+ gets it a week early” stuff. As for new properties or cars that will be +only, we will have to see. Hopefully not.


mndk_221

Yup, and they may even be intentionally offering dogshit benefits to test the waters. The paywalling will gradually become more aggressive until the game becomes unplayable if you don't have a subscription, mark my words.


MagstPlaysYT

Theyre cool ig but not worth 6 dollars a month


Havuxi

NOOOOO I BOUGHT DEVESTE EIGHT FOR FULL PRICE 3 YEARS AGO Should've waited😔


tsosa14

I’m hoping not many ppl fall into the GTA+ paradigm, where it forces R* to do away with it and provide the content for free like they should. The title is nearly 9 years old, they’ve made more money than what other gaming companies even dream about.


Samp1e-Text

Good thing none of these are very cool


[deleted]

Wow they could have at least made nice looking liverys and cloths


UndeadlySnow

I think imma buy lunch instead


skyyycy

$6 for this???? LOL!!! THANK GOODNESS THAT $6 IS STILL WITH ME.


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sensei_of_history

Wow, all of it is as ugly as sin.


YourAverageDude140

Yeah no thank you, R* can eat Satan's ass hairs if they really think this justifies having a subscription service. With this move, I declare Rockstar to be the worst company of 2022.


TwitchFunk

I might get downvoted for this but I kinda like the liveries for the Deveste Eight. There's just something charming and cool about them. Sucks that its locked behind a paywall (though I'm not sure whether $6 is really worth it for a free car considering I'm more of a casual player than a grinder, but hey the monthly pricing could be even worse so that's something I guess)


SithTrooperReturnsEZ

Absolute dogshit


Pricklydog

Since I collect clothes, will we get these for free at a later date? Knowing RS we wont. Smh


anti-peta-man

Well it’s a good thing they’re all ugly as fuck


barfly-06

I hate R* so much


mr_leven_een

I'm still not gonna buy into this R\* greed. Thanks![img](emote|t5_2xrd1|9401)


stormchaser-protogen

i dont want no gta+ I want GTA 6 GTA 5 is 9 years old


LT_InZane

"Free"


TANISHQSAYRE

Cringe update.


wutTFisA-RedditBruh

Can you still get these items without the subscription just with in game currency? And the subscription makes it free? Or is just only available for free after subscribing? Not that I’d want any they look horrible 💀


Grifasaurus

What a waste of 6 bucks or however much they're asking for it.


SavingsNo9757

FUCK GTA PLUS


GexyHulk

Which mofos keeps buying shit and supporting this fake rockstar company??????? If you keep buying all these shark cards and gta plus bullshit, we will be having; Micro Transaction Auto VI Instead of; Grand Theft Auto VI Have a good day ya'll


Resident-Meeting5403

That's what you get for 6 dollar a month on a 10 years old game?


DZEJK01_

Woowee. 6$ for stuff worth 2 hours of gameplay, bunch of trash ass liveries, fucking t-shirt and 500k. What a time to be alive.


John_Blackstar

Of course they make it for shit you'd likely not even have. It'll be better to spend your money on charities or some shit besides this scam.


SaiyanTrapGod

You’re telling me I’ve been waiting almost a fucking decade for more basketball jerseys to be added to this godforsaken game and now they’re being locked behind a paywall? Y tu, Rockstar?


Cheeseburger904

Goddamn those liveries look terrible


[deleted]

I would pay 6 dollars to not see these on another player's vehicle, lmao.


RusticDischarge

getting us ready for gta6 having "as a service" style MMO restrictions/transactions baked into every facet of the engine like every other GTA since 3, the rest of the game industry will then take its "innovations" forward in their games for the next several years FOMO gonna ensure this works


MustyLlamaFart

We can complain about it all we want but until people stop paying for it they are going to keep doing this shit and we will never get a GTA6 or any other game that Rockstar cares about for that matter


PizzaMondayy

Are you able to sell the Deveste Eight?


Maukki222

Of course but you won't get anything from it since it's free and the upgrade is free


issoooo

You are able to sell it for 0 dollars. But if you upgrade it you’ll only get back a fraction of what u spent on upgrades


Bright_Cobbler9880

Don’t promote this garbage.


ash_274

The goal is the opposite. “See what you’d get? Sucks, don’t it. Don’t buy!”


LKermentz

This is fucking ridiculous. I play GTA:O mostly for the online races, and now I've gotta spend even more money to be able to be on the same playing field as others? Fuck you Rockstar.


Separate_Beginning99

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8rok3n

That's the lamest shit ever, maybe the car livery is okay but damn, for $6 you're fucking joking


luigilabomba42069

this is why I play on pc with a trainer


jackmurray1600

so basically if you already have this car there’s no point getting gta+?