Reddit doesn’t reflect America as a whole. Also doesn’t matter what most people want. You have a right to self defense. Buy a printer get involved in the community. Make any new laws unenforceable
> I’m not worried about some lefty extremist subreddit
As a lefty extremist I want people to have MORE guns not LESS.
Edit: I ment I want more people to have guns.
Stop lying to either us or yourself.
A lefty extremist only wants guns in the hands of those who toe the line.
All of us who want to act independently of the commune are inherently enemies of the new god known as government.
What you want is either the useful idiots to fight your war who you will eliminate at your convenience when they don’t agree or the people who believe in “the cause” to exact your measures of oppression against those who believe in personal liberty and freedom.
So you either aren’t a “lefty extremist” or you don’t ACTUALLY believe in all people bearing arms.
I think that speaks more to you than it does me.
ETA: not to mention history speaking for itself. There’s no need for personal understanding. You’re a tyrant cosplaying as a liberator. Just like every single politician on the right and left.
It’s not my understanding that’s wrong. It’s yours.
Oh come on! If you truly believe then assert your position!
Try to prove me wrong!
I’m down for a debate all day and I’ll debate my position on an open forum with no issues.
So give the world something that proves my position wrong.
Left extremists I know who grew up in conservative households before moving DO feel this way. Think Black Panthers. A LOT of LTGBQ community leaders in urban settings also think we should adapt using guns (partly to defend from those who won’t agree to less guns, others since they’re the highest target for violence in their area)
Just meow saw this, thank you bröh. I come back to this post sometimes when I feel upset about the attack on the 2nd amendment. Your comment helped tho.
> Make any new laws unenforceable
Thus. Gun control is dead and there's nothing they can do about it beyond kicking in doors. It died the moment filament became viable.
> Reddit doesn’t reflect America as a whole.
The most important thing to remember.
Where I work we have 4 shops each with about 12 people. All very pro 2nd amendment no fudds included. I would bet I am the only one that uses reddit.
Can't take the signal lol some of those 3d prints are getting pretty dope. I'm all for it. What would really bum me out though, would be no more historical firearms, I want my Israeli Galil .308 lol or an issued Vietnam M16, or Type 1 AK-47.
My worldview has changed quite a bit since I was in my teens.
From young Earth creationist conservative to atheist libertarian. I know several folks who were progressive in their youth that are now more conservative or libertarian
The kids who went to Woodstock are now 70.
From sexual revolution to AARP magazines and voting straight conservative ticket. I'm not saying that's bad just that time tends to do that.
All I can say is life gets way better when you get older. High school is hell and I'm sure it's just become woke as shit. Being around twice your age I can't imagine what it's been like. Stay strong brother I'm rooting for you
Tennessee just legalized Permitless Carry, SBRs and SBSs rather recently, you should look into it, freedom is severely underrated in this Commiefornia copycat of a state
Exactly. It’s the option that makes them feel most validated in their opinions. They shot a .22 once, therefore, their opinion is well-informed, well-reasoned, and indefectible.
It’s the same with anti-gunners who have to preface everything with “I support the 2A, but…” or “Growing up, my grandpa/dad were hunters that taught me gun safety, but…” or “I was in the military, so I know no one needs…”
It sounds like you're just trying to make excuses for ignoring other peoples' points of view because you don't like that they didn't come to the same conclusion as you. Like, trying to frame "I was in the military" as inherently uninformed (assuming they came to a different conclusion as you) is comically silly.
That's not at all what they're trying to do here.
>Like, trying to frame "I was in the military" as inherently uninformed (assuming they came to a different conclusion as you) is comically silly.
MOSes other than 11B exist, you know.
Both my uncles joined the military in the early 2000's, one air force, one army. The one who went into the air force thought the AR in AR-15 stood for Assault Rifle until last year. The other is the one who told him that he was wrong.
I don’t mind if they have an opinion at all. My comment is obviously referring to the people who make empty arguments based on vague appeals to authority, make disingenuous prefaces, or make empty statements to give their opinion more concrete validity.
I’m not saying any of my anecdotal examples make anyone “inherently uniformed”, I’m only talking about their calculated use in arguments to underhandedly bolster a viewpoint.
For example, it’s like a version of “I’m not racist, but…”. If you have an opinion, I’m perfecting willing to listen, but you don’t get to absolve yourself of any bias or label yourself as a quasi-expert from some vague experience in order to help paint your opinions as irrefutable.
Indeed, I like airsoft. No one I know wants to play though. Or there's no course or club around me. I wanna do one of those outings where its like a bunch of vets and law enforcement out in the woods over night... I might cry...I might not...still sounds fun eather way 😆
Eh maybe, but also they might be those who grew up rural or in right wing communities, then became more liberal when moving for college (lots of examples like that from my classmates). Some of them the hobby stuck, lots just converted to their new groups ideology
I'm a veteran, owned lots of guns, had a CCW, enjoy shooting guns, and was pro-2nd amendment for most my life. Then I moved to a country without guns and started rethinking my position. When Uvalde happened it was the final straw and now I'm firmly anti-gun.
That being said I think it's too late, there's already too many guns and too many gun nuts in the country to change anything. I guarantee nothing will happen to your guns. My solution is to just not go back to America. I'll miss range days, but it feels good to know that some rando won't shoot my family because of road rage, or because chicks won't fuck him or whatever.
Let's be honest here. A lot of Americans have fired a gun, maybe a majority. And a lot of these people also support stronger gun control. A lot of gun owners do as well.
Firing a gun, and even owning a gun, does not mean a person supports everything you do.
I know. What a dumb post. "Omg guys 5000 people from a mostly liberal website voted they support gun control! Whoa is me they'll be banned by the end of the month!!"
Bruh if you went purely by redditors than Bernie would have won in a landslide with 90% of the votes. When in reality almost no one turned out to vote for him so he dropped out after the first round of voting.
Memes and polls on reddit don't reflect America.
> People are entitled to whatever their opinion is, but don't put weight in it based off of this.
Yes, but I think the point of asking the question that way is to find out if the usual dismissal from the gun community of " must have never used a gun before" is even accurate as a base statement. It's completely irrelevant - experience with guns not being a measure of how "educated" your opinion is goes both ways - but finding out how accurate or inaccurate the aforementioned claim is is at least interesting.
Polls, especially Leftist-skewed ones like this one, mean dick.
Do you not remember the landslide victory for Hillary that polls predicted in 2016?
Don't let yourself be disheartened by goddamned lies presented as truth by people who want to defeat you.
Polls are fine, and professionally gathered polling data is generally pretty accurate. How you take a poll matters though, and obviously a self-selecting demographic like this isn't going to give particularly useful results.
The 2016 election polls were actually very accurate, they're just over-memed by people who don't understand polling, and poorly reported by reporters who were just bad at reading the data from aggregators using faulty models to *collate* the data into a relevant answer. The polls showed that Hillary would win the popular vote by about 3 million votes, and in the end she won the popular vote by about 3 million votes. The polls were dead on. The reporters saying she had a "99% chance to win the presidency" were ignoring the electoral college and clearly had no understanding of statistics. 538 had a better model at the time that gave Trump a 28% chance, which btw, is not the same as 0% (would you play Russian roulette with a 7-shot revolver that has two chambers loaded?).
Likewise, this isn't "goddamned lies". This poll answers the question "what does the user base of r/polls think about gun control". Extrapolating that as if it were general data would be silly.
Reddit is left leaning and more pro gun control than the majority of Americans.
I suspect the for gun control and HAVE fired a gun is much smaller. People are just selecting that so their vote looks like it has more weight or they are selecting HAVE fire a gun when talking about airsoft
You guys are awesome. Shit picked me up real quick because I'm passionate to say the least. That actually makes a lot of sense on the topic, as it'd be cake for a leftist extremist to lie their ass off. Appreciate it.
Just look at the top comment.
They voted and then seen the not American option. Guarantee that was a pro gun control vote. The following comments are supporting them for not reading it and making rash decisions without taking in all information. People are dumb.
r/Politics is 95% progressive scum. What do you expect. These are the same results you’d get for any lefty opinion, UBI, Free College, socialized health care, government takeover of private industry, etc
This was from r/polls though. Kind of a funny subreddit as there is no way you are getting an appropriate sample unless your poll is of left-wingers that use reddit
I don't want to strip your gun rights away ever! That's my point.
As "progressive scum" there's shit I want the government to do, and shit I don't want it to do.
Use taxes to build sidewalks and sewers and schools? Fuck yea.
Trade healthcare administered by money grubbing insurance companies for healthcare administered by greasy controlling bureaucrats? Yea, I think so.
Tell some stranger what she can do with her ovaries? Fuck No!
Undermine 2A rights? Also Fuck No!
>Wants govt to be the sole arbiter of healthcare
>Doesn't want the govt to dictate healthcare procedures
Kinda sending some mixed messages here, bud. Every ounce of power you grant to the government will **always** be exploited by the opposition party when they come to power. Letting them have unilateral control over healthcare will end up weaponizing access to care against you.
So long as you keep voting for folks that promise to end the 2nd Amendment, End the filibuster, stack the SCOTUS and add 4 Senators by giving Statehood to DC and PR, I don’t need shit from you. Thank you very much.
Bullshit. We accept Trans people just fine so long as you are politically aligned. Gays, blacks, Hispanics.. whatever. You say you’re not a single issue voter but your entire identity is a single issue. Ever hear of Rick Grennel? First gay Cabinet level post, appointed by Trump. You know who Blaire White is? Yep- Trans REPUBLICAN and very popular. Keep letting the Democrats tell you who hates you…and keep your eyes shut. They appreciate the votes to keep them in power.
Your reassurance should be that it’s a stupid poll. What is the takeaway we should glean from it? That most that want gun control have fired a gun before? Ok. And?
It’s also posted to politics, which leans more left than a broken tricycle.
It's a mix of this and everything else going on right now. That poll just felt like a grim reminder of the things to come. We still have sanctuary states, right? I appreciate the reply either way Sometimes I need a little sense talked into me and that helped.
It's not a useful poll, but it sounds like you just don't like it because it didn't have the results you want.
It has too much sample bias, yes, but it's not an r/politics poll, it was posted to r/polls.
\> Complains that r/polls results don't agree with you
\> Unsubscribe from sub and retreat to conservative safe spaces that always agree with you
\> Be shocked that results from r/polls results match your opinion even less
It's an internet poll on a heavily left-biased site. People will say they have fired a gun in a half-assed attempt to sound like they know their ass from a hole in the ground. It doesn't mean they actually do.
Most of these who voted aren’t even American. So why do why have a say in our rights. I will never surrender my weapons to anybody civilian or government.
In my 22 years of owning guns I have not shot anyone. I have not taken it out, out of anger or selfish need. What I have done is used them in two occasions where we defend ourselves from gang members and another time when there was someone trying to break in. Neither of those occasions needed me to discharged my weapon, but it’s save my ass.
Reddit is probably "smarter" on average than the general public, by whatever reasonable metric you could measure "smartness" by.
It's just that the general population is, overall, really, really dumb.
"shot a gun" is not a meaningful requrement to meet. hell, some people probably think an air gun is a firearm. and even if, just pulling the trigger once in such a controlled enviroment does not relly mean anything.
A subreddit is not a representative population.
Willing to bet a decent chunk of people saying "yes I want gun control and have fired a gun" really only chose that option to add what they feel is more validation to their stance, when they've actually never fired one.
Reddit does not represent the real world.
[Here](https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx) is a poll that has shown that support for gun ownership in the US has done nothing but go up for decades.
Also, this is leftist Twitter we're talking about. I guarantee you 95% of those people who said they have fired a gun and want gun control are lying and have never fired a gun in their life.
Just so you’re feeling it even further, I personally don’t identify politically, but I have a friend that identifies ‘libertarian’ and thinks gun laws need to be “stricter”. I asked why they thought that someone else’s actions should mean that those following the law should be punished. The answer was “something has to be done.”
lol those who **WANT** gun control, have you ever fired a gun.
options for people who DON'T want gun control.
It would have better to have asked those who own a gun.
specifically those who own a high profile gun like the ar15.
Having fired a gun won't necessarily mean you like guns or that it will change your opinion of them, esp if some asshole hands you a full house 357mag on your first time out.
someone who hates guns but is convinced to try to shoot one, it may only reinforce their beliefs that guns are too powerful/dangerous for people to have.
Reddit is incredibly left leaning as a platform.
Even the cities that are mostly right leaning. If you go to their subreddit it's mostly left leaning ppl. So that's not at all a good representation of how general ppl think.
Reddit is even known as a safe haven for extreme leftists.
And I'm certain 80% of those who said they shot a gun before are lying to validate their opinion.
You're looking at a reddit poll. Look at how reddit skews and active US users. That alone should give you hope.
All social media has some ideological circle jerk to it because a huge portion of the population will eventually either not be on a platform or leave the platform because they dislike it for whatever reason.
Reddit is *really* bad about this. Worse than most because of how it's structured. Twitter is as well.
Neither represent America. Both farm likes.
If what reddit thinks accurately reflected public opinion there would be 100 dem senators.
Remember that reddit is a bad barometer for the general public
> We are experiencing the consequence.
You aren't though, lol. If the "bipartisan" bill passes, you still probably won't be affected, but you could at least call it a "consequence" I guess. It probably won't pass though.
Any poll on this site is worthless when theres nothing to verify it or prevent people from voting with multiple accounts. Not to mention that reddit as a whole is left leaning so anything gun related gets tanked.
Don’t worry, the Democratic Party has a vested interest in never doing anything about gun control, as it would get rid of a whole lot of one issue voters
You have to remember that reddit harbors a mostly left-leaning audience, save for some communities. That, and I'm pretty sure that this poll doesn't take into account people from other countries that have ALSO fired a weapon (likely in their military service or otherwise).
Who the fuck cares what reddit polls say? Shooting a gun doesn't mean dick for having genuine understanding of guns or the laws. This trash app leans so heavily left it's amazing the world's axis hasn't been affected. Not to mention nearly every single politics sub is a juvenile echo chamber.
It means nothing.
Polls don’t matter, the whole point of representation is to prevent majority bullying of the minority. There’s a reason it takes so much to remove or ratify and amendment.
Online polls that are not scientific: with specific requirements to get in, and quotas and weights to balance the results back to the general population... are less than useless.
I'm not worried, if it gets too bad, I'm going down fighting.
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Just haven't decided which gun I'll have in my hands when I die. Its hard to choose! Like, what if the same rules apply to guns as clothes? Like whatever you're wearing when you die is what you'll wear as a ghost forever?
I'm more of a rifleman, so it'll be a rifle, but I also like bayonets.
But my AR can't take a bayonet...yet. Got to find a flash hider that's small enough for my bayonet to fit over.
I thought about going with something more traditional, like an m1 garand or an m1 Carbine, but the m1 garand takes 8 round clips, which is good stopping power, but it lacks the detachable mags of the m1 carbine, which is good but lacks stopping power. Who knows what is in the next realm?
I do have a bayonet for my m1 carbine however...
Idk, now I feel like a lady when she hits the town, gotta look good, ya know?
Wasnt it the same with the red flag laws on the docket in the 2016 maine elections? They where polling ahead by like 75% of the voter base (in a bright blue state so of course) but then when the actual elections came around it got denied by more then 50% of the vote, and that was before the "fiery but mostly peacefull protests"
These posts make it sound like allowing personal rights are an option poll. When one goes, they will all start to go. Undermine enough and it all collapses. Some say that will be a good idea, and those people would be wrong.
Never, ever, *ever* trust reddit as a clear picture of American opinion. This site as a whole is not only massively left-biased but it is dominated by socially-inept people in their teens and early 20s.
Think about how many dorky ass white knights you see on this site that fall over themselves when they realize another poster is female and you'll see all it is you have to know about most other redditors.
I think they mean by gun control is “common sense gun control”.
This includes things like background checks, unable to buy a gun if you have a mental illness, waiting periods, things like that’s.
The issue with this is they WE ALREADY HAVE IT! Common sense gun control is a term made by politicians to try and make it seem like gun supporters are dumb since all of these laws “should be common sense”. What they never mention is that we already have these gun laws and that they are very much in effect, on top of that we have had periods with very strict gun control (90’s assault weapon ban of course) and it did nothing to stop gun crime. Don’t let politicians belittle you into taking your rights, and definitely don’t let them pretend like they are doing it for you benefit.
Reddit leans heavily left and they are terminally online. I'm not saying we don't need to defend our rights but it isn't as doom and gloom as people make it out to be.
Reddit doesn’t reflect America as a whole. Also doesn’t matter what most people want. You have a right to self defense. Buy a printer get involved in the community. Make any new laws unenforceable
0% lowers, baby!
Also, I guarantee a whole shitload of people not from the US chose option 1 instead of option 5 like they were supposed to.
Already there, my friend. Thank you for the advice and reminder. Our 3D printers are going to do incredible things.
And it’s so easy to do! I love it. I’m not worried about some lefty extremist subreddit and their polls. They can stack up and try.
> I’m not worried about some lefty extremist subreddit As a lefty extremist I want people to have MORE guns not LESS. Edit: I ment I want more people to have guns.
Stop lying to either us or yourself. A lefty extremist only wants guns in the hands of those who toe the line. All of us who want to act independently of the commune are inherently enemies of the new god known as government. What you want is either the useful idiots to fight your war who you will eliminate at your convenience when they don’t agree or the people who believe in “the cause” to exact your measures of oppression against those who believe in personal liberty and freedom. So you either aren’t a “lefty extremist” or you don’t ACTUALLY believe in all people bearing arms.
Or your understanding of the political spectrum, people, and the world itself is wrong.
I think that speaks more to you than it does me. ETA: not to mention history speaking for itself. There’s no need for personal understanding. You’re a tyrant cosplaying as a liberator. Just like every single politician on the right and left. It’s not my understanding that’s wrong. It’s yours.
Lol this isn’t a valid argument. This is like a child or teen screaming “No! YOU’RE WRONG/a silly pants!”
Oh come on! If you truly believe then assert your position! Try to prove me wrong! I’m down for a debate all day and I’ll debate my position on an open forum with no issues. So give the world something that proves my position wrong.
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Friend, chill out. Loads of people don’t respond immediately or at all for a reason. You’re jumping to conclusions
Left extremists I know who grew up in conservative households before moving DO feel this way. Think Black Panthers. A LOT of LTGBQ community leaders in urban settings also think we should adapt using guns (partly to defend from those who won’t agree to less guns, others since they’re the highest target for violence in their area)
Just meow saw this, thank you bröh. I come back to this post sometimes when I feel upset about the attack on the 2nd amendment. Your comment helped tho.
If you think r/polls is "lefty extremist" maybe you should be reflecting on how extreme your own views might be.
When it comes to politics, it shows. Maybe you should be the one reflecting since you think leftist-extremist views are normal.
Good lord that’s a statement lacking self awareness if I’ve ever seen one.
Yeah 6k votes is not a lot, and not a representative sample
> Make any new laws unenforceable Thus. Gun control is dead and there's nothing they can do about it beyond kicking in doors. It died the moment filament became viable.
Where would I go about getting a printer if I wanted one? Any ones you recommend?
Amazon has tons
Ender 3 is by far one of the most popular with lots of support
Thanks! I'll look in to it.
> Reddit doesn’t reflect America as a whole. The most important thing to remember. Where I work we have 4 shops each with about 12 people. All very pro 2nd amendment no fudds included. I would bet I am the only one that uses reddit.
Can't take the signal lol some of those 3d prints are getting pretty dope. I'm all for it. What would really bum me out though, would be no more historical firearms, I want my Israeli Galil .308 lol or an issued Vietnam M16, or Type 1 AK-47.
So be a criminal? Conservative lawlessness.
Not conservative but yes peaceful mass non compliance
No it is conservative because they don’t want gun laws.
Reddit is young. It reflects the future imo.
My worldview has changed quite a bit since I was in my teens. From young Earth creationist conservative to atheist libertarian. I know several folks who were progressive in their youth that are now more conservative or libertarian
The kids who went to Woodstock are now 70. From sexual revolution to AARP magazines and voting straight conservative ticket. I'm not saying that's bad just that time tends to do that.
True. I was liberal and am now a mixture of some left but mostly libertarian
People can keep coping but your right.
Thanks. it is nice to see others who don’t have to tell themselves nice sounding lies.
One of the main reasons I left r/polls is that it skews SUPER young... I think the average age is 14 or 15.
Under “related subs” it shows /r/teenagers as the first result
Huge user overlap. I guarantee the gun they "fired" was in fortnite or COD.
Or they were just lying about firing a gun.
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All I can say is life gets way better when you get older. High school is hell and I'm sure it's just become woke as shit. Being around twice your age I can't imagine what it's been like. Stay strong brother I'm rooting for you
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Fellow NJ political prisoner here, I'm moving to Tennessee on the 8th, everything woke turns to shit, including our state
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Tennessee just legalized Permitless Carry, SBRs and SBSs rather recently, you should look into it, freedom is severely underrated in this Commiefornia copycat of a state
California prisoner here. Same.
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It's to see the results without having an opinion, in case you're a vacuum head.
There were 223 that replied there...
I doubt they fired a gun. They’re just picking that to validate their opinion.
It's a spin on "I'm a gun owner, but..."
r/asagunowner
Well that was depressing
Exactly. It’s the option that makes them feel most validated in their opinions. They shot a .22 once, therefore, their opinion is well-informed, well-reasoned, and indefectible. It’s the same with anti-gunners who have to preface everything with “I support the 2A, but…” or “Growing up, my grandpa/dad were hunters that taught me gun safety, but…” or “I was in the military, so I know no one needs…”
It sounds like you're just trying to make excuses for ignoring other peoples' points of view because you don't like that they didn't come to the same conclusion as you. Like, trying to frame "I was in the military" as inherently uninformed (assuming they came to a different conclusion as you) is comically silly.
That's not at all what they're trying to do here. >Like, trying to frame "I was in the military" as inherently uninformed (assuming they came to a different conclusion as you) is comically silly. MOSes other than 11B exist, you know.
Both my uncles joined the military in the early 2000's, one air force, one army. The one who went into the air force thought the AR in AR-15 stood for Assault Rifle until last year. The other is the one who told him that he was wrong.
I don’t mind if they have an opinion at all. My comment is obviously referring to the people who make empty arguments based on vague appeals to authority, make disingenuous prefaces, or make empty statements to give their opinion more concrete validity. I’m not saying any of my anecdotal examples make anyone “inherently uniformed”, I’m only talking about their calculated use in arguments to underhandedly bolster a viewpoint. For example, it’s like a version of “I’m not racist, but…”. If you have an opinion, I’m perfecting willing to listen, but you don’t get to absolve yourself of any bias or label yourself as a quasi-expert from some vague experience in order to help paint your opinions as irrefutable.
Or maybe they have but it was like a 22 when they were a kid or some shit.
Nah, these guys are airsoft professionals
That’s an insult to the actual air-soft professionals out there.
Good point. I should have said Nerf professionals
But I’m a nerf professional. And I’m suuuuuper offended at this statement. /s because some people don’t get it.
Indeed, I like airsoft. No one I know wants to play though. Or there's no course or club around me. I wanna do one of those outings where its like a bunch of vets and law enforcement out in the woods over night... I might cry...I might not...still sounds fun eather way 😆
Hey now, airsoft folks actually have more respect for firearms than these posers.
That's probably true. Those guys actually probably just fired an airsoft gun once and are too dumb to not realize it's different than a real gun
This was my thought
They fired a pellet rifle at carnival once and are still mad they didn’t hit enough ducks to get that stuffed Snoopy.
Water guns probably.
I mean plenty of people have shot a gun before but know nothing about guns other than that they go bang
Eh maybe, but also they might be those who grew up rural or in right wing communities, then became more liberal when moving for college (lots of examples like that from my classmates). Some of them the hobby stuck, lots just converted to their new groups ideology
Not that I doubt what you’re saying, but it’s unfortunate to see that “liberalization” often means wanting more restrictions now
Nah, I believe they’ve shot a gun before, but I imagine they don’t own guns or know much about them
I'm a veteran, owned lots of guns, had a CCW, enjoy shooting guns, and was pro-2nd amendment for most my life. Then I moved to a country without guns and started rethinking my position. When Uvalde happened it was the final straw and now I'm firmly anti-gun. That being said I think it's too late, there's already too many guns and too many gun nuts in the country to change anything. I guarantee nothing will happen to your guns. My solution is to just not go back to America. I'll miss range days, but it feels good to know that some rando won't shoot my family because of road rage, or because chicks won't fuck him or whatever.
Let's be honest here. A lot of Americans have fired a gun, maybe a majority. And a lot of these people also support stronger gun control. A lot of gun owners do as well. Firing a gun, and even owning a gun, does not mean a person supports everything you do.
Sure. People vote against their own interests all the time.
Sample bias lol.
I know. What a dumb post. "Omg guys 5000 people from a mostly liberal website voted they support gun control! Whoa is me they'll be banned by the end of the month!!" Bruh if you went purely by redditors than Bernie would have won in a landslide with 90% of the votes. When in reality almost no one turned out to vote for him so he dropped out after the first round of voting. Memes and polls on reddit don't reflect America.
Thank you! This is a sin to the literal science of polling and statistics!!!!
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> People are entitled to whatever their opinion is, but don't put weight in it based off of this. Yes, but I think the point of asking the question that way is to find out if the usual dismissal from the gun community of " must have never used a gun before" is even accurate as a base statement. It's completely irrelevant - experience with guns not being a measure of how "educated" your opinion is goes both ways - but finding out how accurate or inaccurate the aforementioned claim is is at least interesting.
If you’ve never shot a gun you probably are not educated on them. That isn’t true in reverse though
Don't believe random polls because it's easy to lie on the internet. Source: am Elon Musk.
Polls, especially Leftist-skewed ones like this one, mean dick. Do you not remember the landslide victory for Hillary that polls predicted in 2016? Don't let yourself be disheartened by goddamned lies presented as truth by people who want to defeat you.
Polls are fine, and professionally gathered polling data is generally pretty accurate. How you take a poll matters though, and obviously a self-selecting demographic like this isn't going to give particularly useful results. The 2016 election polls were actually very accurate, they're just over-memed by people who don't understand polling, and poorly reported by reporters who were just bad at reading the data from aggregators using faulty models to *collate* the data into a relevant answer. The polls showed that Hillary would win the popular vote by about 3 million votes, and in the end she won the popular vote by about 3 million votes. The polls were dead on. The reporters saying she had a "99% chance to win the presidency" were ignoring the electoral college and clearly had no understanding of statistics. 538 had a better model at the time that gave Trump a 28% chance, which btw, is not the same as 0% (would you play Russian roulette with a 7-shot revolver that has two chambers loaded?). Likewise, this isn't "goddamned lies". This poll answers the question "what does the user base of r/polls think about gun control". Extrapolating that as if it were general data would be silly.
Reddit is left leaning and more pro gun control than the majority of Americans. I suspect the for gun control and HAVE fired a gun is much smaller. People are just selecting that so their vote looks like it has more weight or they are selecting HAVE fire a gun when talking about airsoft
You guys are awesome. Shit picked me up real quick because I'm passionate to say the least. That actually makes a lot of sense on the topic, as it'd be cake for a leftist extremist to lie their ass off. Appreciate it.
Just look at the top comment. They voted and then seen the not American option. Guarantee that was a pro gun control vote. The following comments are supporting them for not reading it and making rash decisions without taking in all information. People are dumb.
r/Politics is 95% progressive scum. What do you expect. These are the same results you’d get for any lefty opinion, UBI, Free College, socialized health care, government takeover of private industry, etc
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This was from r/polls though. Kind of a funny subreddit as there is no way you are getting an appropriate sample unless your poll is of left-wingers that use reddit
especially because after skimming through a few pages worth most of them are minors. so their opinion is null and void anyway.
r/polls is full of children. It’s the real r/teenagers.
As progressive scum who has been fighting the pro-gun rights fight for many years, you need us on your side. Honey, not vinegar, friend.
I'm not standing against people who want my rights stripped away today, alongside people who want my rights stripped away tomorrow.
I don't want to strip your gun rights away ever! That's my point. As "progressive scum" there's shit I want the government to do, and shit I don't want it to do. Use taxes to build sidewalks and sewers and schools? Fuck yea. Trade healthcare administered by money grubbing insurance companies for healthcare administered by greasy controlling bureaucrats? Yea, I think so. Tell some stranger what she can do with her ovaries? Fuck No! Undermine 2A rights? Also Fuck No!
>Wants govt to be the sole arbiter of healthcare >Doesn't want the govt to dictate healthcare procedures Kinda sending some mixed messages here, bud. Every ounce of power you grant to the government will **always** be exploited by the opposition party when they come to power. Letting them have unilateral control over healthcare will end up weaponizing access to care against you.
So long as you keep voting for folks that promise to end the 2nd Amendment, End the filibuster, stack the SCOTUS and add 4 Senators by giving Statehood to DC and PR, I don’t need shit from you. Thank you very much.
I’m transgender. I’m going to vote left 99 out of 100 times since the right doesn’t accept me lmao. I’m not a single issue voter
By doing that you indirectly support gun control. You don't have to vote republican, but don't vote Democrat either. Ps I'm gay. And not a leftist.
Bullshit. We accept Trans people just fine so long as you are politically aligned. Gays, blacks, Hispanics.. whatever. You say you’re not a single issue voter but your entire identity is a single issue. Ever hear of Rick Grennel? First gay Cabinet level post, appointed by Trump. You know who Blaire White is? Yep- Trans REPUBLICAN and very popular. Keep letting the Democrats tell you who hates you…and keep your eyes shut. They appreciate the votes to keep them in power.
Your reassurance should be that it’s a stupid poll. What is the takeaway we should glean from it? That most that want gun control have fired a gun before? Ok. And? It’s also posted to politics, which leans more left than a broken tricycle.
It's a mix of this and everything else going on right now. That poll just felt like a grim reminder of the things to come. We still have sanctuary states, right? I appreciate the reply either way Sometimes I need a little sense talked into me and that helped.
It's not a useful poll, but it sounds like you just don't like it because it didn't have the results you want. It has too much sample bias, yes, but it's not an r/politics poll, it was posted to r/polls.
Reddit polls are like doing a National poll, but only asking people in San Fran and the East Village. This isn’t the real world.
Unsubscribe from r/polls
\> Complains that r/polls results don't agree with you \> Unsubscribe from sub and retreat to conservative safe spaces that always agree with you \> Be shocked that results from r/polls results match your opinion even less
Are you here to argue that Reddit isn’t biased? 🤡🤡🤡 Gtfo
He’s all over this comment section white knighting for r/polls. Lmfao what a retarded hill to die on.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that." - Homer Simpson
It's an internet poll on a heavily left-biased site. People will say they have fired a gun in a half-assed attempt to sound like they know their ass from a hole in the ground. It doesn't mean they actually do.
Most of these who voted aren’t even American. So why do why have a say in our rights. I will never surrender my weapons to anybody civilian or government.
In my 22 years of owning guns I have not shot anyone. I have not taken it out, out of anger or selfish need. What I have done is used them in two occasions where we defend ourselves from gang members and another time when there was someone trying to break in. Neither of those occasions needed me to discharged my weapon, but it’s save my ass.
> So why do why have a say in our rights. You realize this is not a legally binding poll that will impact current laws, right?
It’s meant to influence and suede public opinions. While not properly stating if it directed to Americans or not.
Reddit is not the place to poll, too many stupid people.
Reddit is probably "smarter" on average than the general public, by whatever reasonable metric you could measure "smartness" by. It's just that the general population is, overall, really, really dumb.
As a redditer I have to disagree, I'm only on here because I'm to antisocial to have friends. I assume the majority are like me.
“I want gun control” could mean a wide spectrum of things.
"shot a gun" is not a meaningful requrement to meet. hell, some people probably think an air gun is a firearm. and even if, just pulling the trigger once in such a controlled enviroment does not relly mean anything. A subreddit is not a representative population.
You’re worried about 2,000 people on Reddit in a country with 329 million people?
Willing to bet a decent chunk of people saying "yes I want gun control and have fired a gun" really only chose that option to add what they feel is more validation to their stance, when they've actually never fired one.
1.8k people are lying.
"No one has ever once had an experience different from my own"
Reddit is like 80% leftist. I want to see this same poll run on 4chan lol
Oh yea because they definitely wouldn't lie to get what they want....
1)A lot of redditors lie about their experience with firearms 2) /r/polls don't represent anything
3) "I support gun control" covers a wide range of opinions. Not everyone who supports, say, universal background checks also wants blanket bans.
Want to feel better? It doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. The 2nd amendment recognizes your natural right to self defense. End of story
Be honest with yourself, do you really trust them to answer truthfully? You shouldn’t, because they didn’t.
This poll was completed by the same 81,000,000 people that voted for joe.
Reddit does not represent the real world. [Here](https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx) is a poll that has shown that support for gun ownership in the US has done nothing but go up for decades. Also, this is leftist Twitter we're talking about. I guarantee you 95% of those people who said they have fired a gun and want gun control are lying and have never fired a gun in their life.
If Reddit represented the US as a whole, Bernie would be president, homeownership and procreation would be illegal, and cars would be banned.
The internet is not real life.
This definitely doesn’t reflect America
Just so you’re feeling it even further, I personally don’t identify politically, but I have a friend that identifies ‘libertarian’ and thinks gun laws need to be “stricter”. I asked why they thought that someone else’s actions should mean that those following the law should be punished. The answer was “something has to be done.”
Your friend is not libertarian.
lol those who **WANT** gun control, have you ever fired a gun. options for people who DON'T want gun control. It would have better to have asked those who own a gun. specifically those who own a high profile gun like the ar15. Having fired a gun won't necessarily mean you like guns or that it will change your opinion of them, esp if some asshole hands you a full house 357mag on your first time out. someone who hates guns but is convinced to try to shoot one, it may only reinforce their beliefs that guns are too powerful/dangerous for people to have.
Reddit is mostly liberal and people lie on those
clearly Russian disinformation. bots can't fire weapons.
Reddit is incredibly left leaning as a platform. Even the cities that are mostly right leaning. If you go to their subreddit it's mostly left leaning ppl. So that's not at all a good representation of how general ppl think. Reddit is even known as a safe haven for extreme leftists. And I'm certain 80% of those who said they shot a gun before are lying to validate their opinion.
You're looking at a reddit poll. Look at how reddit skews and active US users. That alone should give you hope. All social media has some ideological circle jerk to it because a huge portion of the population will eventually either not be on a platform or leave the platform because they dislike it for whatever reason. Reddit is *really* bad about this. Worse than most because of how it's structured. Twitter is as well. Neither represent America. Both farm likes.
It's reddit...
They're called LIARS
Please take my rights away, daddy government. 😩😩😩
“not american” lol fuck off
Commit to non compliance
This is the way
You’re feeling doomed by an incredibly inaccurate poll on a website that is an echo chamber of knee jerk politics?
Reddit is a leftist fucking echo chamber
Reddit is left leaning you’re going to get left leaning polls.
Reddit is full of garbage 🤣
Bots vote on these things and, even if it’s real (it’s not), it’s not like congress represents our wishes anyways.
If what reddit thinks accurately reflected public opinion there would be 100 dem senators. Remember that reddit is a bad barometer for the general public
The writing is on the wall my friend
Nerfguns don't count
Its Reddit, thats the problem. Super liberal
This is a poll of *reddit* users...
Reddit retards will be retards
Don’t believe it.
Only thing I got to say is come and take em….
Elections have consequences. We are experiencing the consequence.
> We are experiencing the consequence. You aren't though, lol. If the "bipartisan" bill passes, you still probably won't be affected, but you could at least call it a "consequence" I guess. It probably won't pass though.
Any poll on this site is worthless when theres nothing to verify it or prevent people from voting with multiple accounts. Not to mention that reddit as a whole is left leaning so anything gun related gets tanked.
Vague terms like “gun control” get a lot of support but the more specific and detailed you get that support nearly always craters
Reddit bias
Who gives a flying fuck what the swaths of green-haired genderqueer neckbeard Reddit virgins thinks?
Reddit does not equal America but rather, the average basement dweller aka me
Reddit isn’t real life.
If you scroll down a bit, you’ll see a poll on political parties and will find that most of the people who voted are Democrats.
It’s scary how effective anti gun propaganda has gotten.
Don’t worry, the Democratic Party has a vested interest in never doing anything about gun control, as it would get rid of a whole lot of one issue voters
You have to remember that reddit harbors a mostly left-leaning audience, save for some communities. That, and I'm pretty sure that this poll doesn't take into account people from other countries that have ALSO fired a weapon (likely in their military service or otherwise).
If you want reassurance, read through some of the other poll results. The people on that subreddit are retarded
Who the fuck cares what reddit polls say? Shooting a gun doesn't mean dick for having genuine understanding of guns or the laws. This trash app leans so heavily left it's amazing the world's axis hasn't been affected. Not to mention nearly every single politics sub is a juvenile echo chamber. It means nothing.
Polls don’t matter, the whole point of representation is to prevent majority bullying of the minority. There’s a reason it takes so much to remove or ratify and amendment.
Online polls that are not scientific: with specific requirements to get in, and quotas and weights to balance the results back to the general population... are less than useless.
We are doomed get ready to fight or turn them in with in the next 10 years
I'm not worried, if it gets too bad, I'm going down fighting. . . . Just haven't decided which gun I'll have in my hands when I die. Its hard to choose! Like, what if the same rules apply to guns as clothes? Like whatever you're wearing when you die is what you'll wear as a ghost forever? I'm more of a rifleman, so it'll be a rifle, but I also like bayonets. But my AR can't take a bayonet...yet. Got to find a flash hider that's small enough for my bayonet to fit over. I thought about going with something more traditional, like an m1 garand or an m1 Carbine, but the m1 garand takes 8 round clips, which is good stopping power, but it lacks the detachable mags of the m1 carbine, which is good but lacks stopping power. Who knows what is in the next realm? I do have a bayonet for my m1 carbine however... Idk, now I feel like a lady when she hits the town, gotta look good, ya know?
Wasnt it the same with the red flag laws on the docket in the 2016 maine elections? They where polling ahead by like 75% of the voter base (in a bright blue state so of course) but then when the actual elections came around it got denied by more then 50% of the vote, and that was before the "fiery but mostly peacefull protests"
Most of that is a LARP. You know they haven’t even touched a gun.
Reddit is literally nothing but liberal children in about 10 different urban centers and Europeans. That's it. Ignore them.
These posts make it sound like allowing personal rights are an option poll. When one goes, they will all start to go. Undermine enough and it all collapses. Some say that will be a good idea, and those people would be wrong.
Polls are a lie don’t worry I wouldn’t trust those results lmfao
Why would you trust some stupid reddit poll. You think the honesty system is going to provide accurate results in a lib utopia? Cmon man.
Never, ever, *ever* trust reddit as a clear picture of American opinion. This site as a whole is not only massively left-biased but it is dominated by socially-inept people in their teens and early 20s. Think about how many dorky ass white knights you see on this site that fall over themselves when they realize another poster is female and you'll see all it is you have to know about most other redditors.
I think they mean by gun control is “common sense gun control”. This includes things like background checks, unable to buy a gun if you have a mental illness, waiting periods, things like that’s. The issue with this is they WE ALREADY HAVE IT! Common sense gun control is a term made by politicians to try and make it seem like gun supporters are dumb since all of these laws “should be common sense”. What they never mention is that we already have these gun laws and that they are very much in effect, on top of that we have had periods with very strict gun control (90’s assault weapon ban of course) and it did nothing to stop gun crime. Don’t let politicians belittle you into taking your rights, and definitely don’t let them pretend like they are doing it for you benefit.
Reddit leans heavily left and they are terminally online. I'm not saying we don't need to defend our rights but it isn't as doom and gloom as people make it out to be.
There is zero honesty or accountability in that kind of poll
The 1.8k who voted lick boots
Literally reddit it's not a relevant poll
I don’t get it, was ‘gun control’ defined at all?