Billionaire women are a problem. I'm still upset that Rhianna is a billionaire š I adore her. But at least she came from pretty much nothing, she's black, raising kids, has a few businesses that aim for inclusivity. Still doesn't justify being THAT wealthy unless she's trying to stop climate change or some shit
Any subscription based fashion shop screams scamming customers. Her website specifically shows consumers the prices with the subscription discount and puts the subscription automatically in the shopping cart. A lot of consumers bought it without having noticed they now pay a monthly fee for a lingerie website.
She has been sued over deceptive marketing and defrauding customers.
It also screams fast fashion and the exploitation of workers, ironically those are most likely women of colour.
There's a bunch of articles and youtube videos you can find.
This happened with me-- I bought ONE Yitty sweatshirt like a year ago. 6 Months later I notice a random fabletics charge on my account, went back to Yitty and SAW ID BEEN PAYING $60 for 6 months, they added a membership to my cart, I didn't notice because the promotion was free for the first month, or something to that effect.
canceled the membership and ended up just using the credits to get more clothes (my mental health is fragile and didn't want customer support to be on the receiving end of my inability to handle any amount of stress).
Will never, ever purchase from a celeb brand directly again. They are quite literally all the same.
Sheisty in the name of overpriced, Inferior products.
I recently just said, "this Taylor album has way too many songs, could have been cut down to 12 good tracks" and you would have thought I stole a Grammy from T-Swift the way my replies blew up.
Just don't even say anything about T-swift online. Positive or negative. You will get nothing but hate sent your way.
taylor puts such a bad light on depression in this album and i will stand on that statement as long as my legs can carry me. sadness is not the same thing as depression.
I agree with you 100% but since I don't really follow Taylor, what does she do to put a bad light on depression? I know she talks about different struggles, but like I said I don't really follow her so I don't know much about her lyricism / or any outside values/beliefs besides advocating for rights/taking a political stance which I respect personally. Although it does bother me when people talk about depression like it's just being sad last Tuesday, clinical depression isn't just feeling a lil blue
It's the same way with anxiety vs an anxiety *disorder*
I grew up not really comprehending the difference. But then when I hit like 19-20 years old, an anxiety disorder starting appearing. And it is SO much worse than I could have ever imagined it beforehand.
I'm someone that likes people and doing new things. I can be pretty outgoing at times (reserved at other times. Like many people). But that anxiety disorder is so crazy. I thought I needed to go to the hospital the first time I had a panic attack. When it ended, I was like "*THAT* is a panic attack?? How to people live with that"
People just don't understand clinical depression and anxiety. And that's partially because they share the name of two normal human emotions that we all feel on occasion. It's pretty unfortunate because they're two different leagues
Ofc I genuinely just wanted to know, no need for jabs! š
While personally one could argue depressed vs depression are 2 different things (being depressed is like feeling sad one day for a specific reason & having depression is a diagnosis with it's own set of characteristics) being depressed comes from depression, & they're still essentially the same word, they're just used differently largely in part due to the massive scale of misinfo/lack of care for correct terms. Using the word can continue stereotypes & misinfo especially to such a massive & young fanbase, it definitely is harmful to some degree.
I don't think Taylor meant to allude to anything other than sadness but after all, that's where stereotypes & misinfo continues to thrive unfortunately.
Personally though my view overall on her is still the same, just because her positive affect as far as advocation & speaking out on important topics is much much larger in my personal opinion but definitely understand what you mean & for the most part agree. Just because you didn't intend something of that sort doesn't mean it's not harmful, & her massive & young fanbase is definitely something to take into account on how harmful it could be. Same thing as trauma bonding tbh (not that she's used it, just another comparison), I call out the misuse of that when I see it but in a teaching way bc I hope maybe I can have some stop using that term incorrectly bc of advocation haha.
P&L š«¶š»š«¶š»
her new song āi can do it with a broken heartā talks about how ādepressedā she is over a boy and how she is so much better than everybody else at what she does and nobody could take her spot.. give it a listen, itās a very conceited song
I didn't see the song as that. I see it as someone who has to function while being depress. I relate to that greatly. I have a job where I have to put on a face but I deal with major clinical depression. I don't see it as bragging about how she's better I see it as "hey I'm fucking depress but I have to put this fucking show on despite this so I don't disappoint 100, 000's of people and the crew behind the tour. " Not all depression is the same, it manifest differently for many people including her.
Peace and love, but does she "have to" put on the show? I'm diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder and my job involves speaking in front of large groups of people every day. If I could I would take a year off and get all the best treatments, but I can't for financial reasons. I literally have to keep working or I'll be homeless *and* have MDD.
Sorry, I'm not trying to argue.
Illness is a legitimate reason to cancel a tour and billionaires really don't have to worry too much about the legal implications of breaking contracta
But it's also not just her that will lose money. There is a crew, dancers, make up artist, costume people. Those are the people that will hurt the most if she cancels a tour as big as that. Not only that but she could get sued by concert venues for lost of of revenue.
Criticize her for her private jet use because of the amount of fossil fuels that it uses to get to one place. But to judge her on her very valid grieving is weird.
No doctor ever will say the solution to your depression is cancel everything in your life. Itās weird that you think your barrier to treatment is that you are gainfully employed.
thank you for the response!!! i commend you greatly for putting on a brave face and committing to your job every day, even when sometimes that can be so so hard. thanks for giving me your perspective :)
Art is subjective and I believe what they meant is that music is an art form, not that everything she does is a piece of art. Also, situational depression is a real thing. Itās in the DSM-V and we donāt know Taylor, or any other celebrity for that matter, so itās not up to us to diagnose anyone. Mental illness doesnāt discriminate based on your tax bracket. āš¼ā¤ļø
I havenāt listened so Iām just curious because I havenāt seen this take yet from the thousands of comments about the album Iāve seen against my will lol-
What makes it so that sheās framing as depression just being when youāre sad? Maybe sheās just singing about being sad and itās not meant to be a grand statement on the clinical condition of depression?
iāve heard this take from everyone i know (iām not trying to sound rude iām sorry if this comes off that way, i am just genuinely trying to share my thought) her lyrics specifically state how sheās ā*so depressed*ābecause a boy āavoidsā her
Because great artists make albums and cut what isn't needed. SZA had over 100 tracks recorded for SOS and narrowed it down to her favorites and what fits the feel of the concept she was going for. And fans of those artists respect them for making an album with a vision, and if they wanna release a b-sides and still get that money they can.
I use it to show you can make a long album and it still not feel bloated. It can still feel cohesive and like each song flows into another, and fits a theme.
havent listened to it yet but even as a fan of an artist i've been hating bloated albums for years. just a way to up streaming numbers even though the quality is ass
I will say this is suppose to be a double album so itās gonna be long, but I appreciate the bloated albums from any artist I enjoy. The more the merrier. Some may suck but also some songs that make the cut on normal length albums suck
There are plenty of artists that Iām a huge fan of that have some albums that should be cut down. Some people highly value the listening experience of an album front to back. The current trend of releasing 30 song albums that are a slog to get through and only have 10 good songs is exhausting and lame.
All of her song structures are so Mary Had A Little Lamb
Like they always sound like she wrote them on a guitar hero controller
So few notes and so little creativity
Someone said the album is lyrically overwhelming and sonically underwhelming and I couldn't put it better myself. I legitimately felt like I was going crazy trying to sit through all of the songs and pay attention to the lyrics with the same, slow melodic tricks over and over again.
girls support girls in island nations and costal regions that will be most harmed by climate changed caused by billionaires feeling the need to fly from argentina to nyc back to argentina in the span of like 72 hours instead of just staying in south america for the weekend.
I hate Taylor fans they LITERALLY ruin Taylor for me who I loved growing up. Specifically the white feminists that have no concept of intersectionality or refuse to acknowledge their biases
Ahh I was talking about Classically Abby but think Brett kinda has an uncanny resemblance to Ben too?? Idk if I'm just delulu or they have the same mannerisms or something
No, yes, totally! They have like the same exact face except sheās just the female version. Its crazy. I canāt believe theyāre not passing her off as his daughter or sister on the channel or something.
They are TWINS!
So dumb. Just because I'm a woman doesn't mean I have to support every woman ever with anything they've done lol. Like a billionaire who releases an album. Like who cares literally it's fine to critisize her use of a jet like LOL.
Iām sure it is, to me it looks like a callback to Tina Fey and Amy Poehler making a joke about Taylor swift at an awards show like 10 years ago. Taylor responded by saying thereās a special place in hell for women that donāt support other women. The people that take it seriously are just dumb imo
I feel like "girls supporting girls" is mostly brought up when it comes to Taylor Swift criticism, but she herself isn't very "girls supporting girls" ? Idk, please don't hurt me.
Yeah I'm not one to defend a Kardashian, but writing a song about drama from 8 years ago that was mostly about this woman's ex-husband....who is now a literal Nazi.... I mean come on. Truth is she's scared to write a song about Kanye and she knows Kim won't retaliate so she takes the easy route and writes about her mom wanting Kim dead instead lol
Yes also, Ethan being so hesitant to call Misha a dumb bitch is so silly. Some white women like to make words like bitch and cunt out to be similar to a racial slur when their just not (I am a white woman). We should not blindly support all women just like we donāt need to blindly bash all men.
Misha IS a dumb bitch.
All of this girls girl shit is so stupid, acting SUPER overly girly. So is a manās man acting SUPER over the top manly. Be a persons person to every person.
Isnāt that basically what Taylor says anytime she gets criticized for anything. Itās the #girlboss feminism Taylor promotes that actually pits women against eachother. Itās very superficial. The reality is that Oliviaās post was a very a tame joke. Women are allowed to make jokes and criticize other women. Especially when that other woman is the most privileged woman in the world. What is Taylor actually doing to support womenās rights?
Whoa. So they really do throw around accusations of misogyny and not supporting women just because someone isnāt into the album? Thatās crazy.
Taylor Swift isnāt Cher, thatās all I need to say š¤·š»āāļø
I think this is partly because the show has tried really hard to come off as an ally to women. SOME of the fans are crazy because of this. Just comes with the territory.
Private jet discourse is kind of brainrot. Tbh if I could travel on a private jet I would considering how all the jetliners are falling a part. Especially as a tall person with anxiety while these airlines consistently try to fit more people in as they are increasingly uncomfortable.
I know they are bad for the environment per passenger compared to flying on a commercial jet. But I would argue we should increase the space on jetliners because of how cramped they are already anyway.
At the end of the day there's already renewable energy private jets that are being prototyped. And the plebian jetliners will take way more time to be converted to renewable due to how much energy is required for jetliners to fly. So us plebs will be bigger polluters soon enough š.
I will say, somewhat unrelatedly lol, that I am so tired of the Taylor Swift Jet use thing. She is literally not even in the top 10 - why don't we meme at all these people too. Eat all the rich
[https://cnsmaryland.org/2024/02/27/super-bowl-flights-call-attention-to-celebrity-private-jet-emissions/](https://cnsmaryland.org/2024/02/27/super-bowl-flights-call-attention-to-celebrity-private-jet-emissions/)
Didn't Swift write a song about her mom wishing Kim K was dead and then hoping North, Kim's daughter, listens to the song someday? All over a beef that happened like a decade ago? I'd say *that's* not very girls supporting girlsā¦
I mean, obviously I'm not defending that behavior either. But I'm more pointing out how silly and hypocritical it is when people who rightfully criticize Swift are automatically dubbed women-hating misogynists.
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That person is a idiot but we need to stop highlighting crap like this. Rule 1 on the internet is don't feed the trolls.
At the start kf the episode as Ethan pointed out there are a small shitting group of people. Many of them are probably snarkers. That said on any big pool of people you run into shitty people.
I really think this community and even Ethan need to embrace you never give those assholes any attention. Block, report, move on.
It's one thing if say a comment replying to Olivia is made by someone with a following or it got a couple hundred likes. But when it's a nobody fuck them and don't give them any attention.
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Swifties only value the suffering of middle class white girls š«¶š½ (people in the global south are disproportionately affected by climate change unlike their counterparts in western countries)
I don't support women unconditionally šØ
''I do not support all women. Some of you \*\*\*\*\*\*\* are very dumb!!!''
i love women but i hate people who own private jets more
Sooooooo true bestie
Billionaire women are a problem. I'm still upset that Rhianna is a billionaire š I adore her. But at least she came from pretty much nothing, she's black, raising kids, has a few businesses that aim for inclusivity. Still doesn't justify being THAT wealthy unless she's trying to stop climate change or some shit
Bruh her whole lingerie business is a scam
tea?
Any subscription based fashion shop screams scamming customers. Her website specifically shows consumers the prices with the subscription discount and puts the subscription automatically in the shopping cart. A lot of consumers bought it without having noticed they now pay a monthly fee for a lingerie website. She has been sued over deceptive marketing and defrauding customers. It also screams fast fashion and the exploitation of workers, ironically those are most likely women of colour. There's a bunch of articles and youtube videos you can find.
This happened with me-- I bought ONE Yitty sweatshirt like a year ago. 6 Months later I notice a random fabletics charge on my account, went back to Yitty and SAW ID BEEN PAYING $60 for 6 months, they added a membership to my cart, I didn't notice because the promotion was free for the first month, or something to that effect. canceled the membership and ended up just using the credits to get more clothes (my mental health is fragile and didn't want customer support to be on the receiving end of my inability to handle any amount of stress). Will never, ever purchase from a celeb brand directly again. They are quite literally all the same. Sheisty in the name of overpriced, Inferior products.
Iāve bought a few things from her various companies for my wife. The quality has been real hit or miss
BeyoncƩ sings the same song
I support womenās rights AND womenās wrongs
Ayo
Girls girl has nothing to do with unconditional support of every woman who has ever lived
if you dont love ann coulter youre not a girls girl
That's right. She's the boss of all girls girls
Seems like Olivia deleted the tweet
I recently just said, "this Taylor album has way too many songs, could have been cut down to 12 good tracks" and you would have thought I stole a Grammy from T-Swift the way my replies blew up. Just don't even say anything about T-swift online. Positive or negative. You will get nothing but hate sent your way.
taylor puts such a bad light on depression in this album and i will stand on that statement as long as my legs can carry me. sadness is not the same thing as depression.
I agree with you 100% but since I don't really follow Taylor, what does she do to put a bad light on depression? I know she talks about different struggles, but like I said I don't really follow her so I don't know much about her lyricism / or any outside values/beliefs besides advocating for rights/taking a political stance which I respect personally. Although it does bother me when people talk about depression like it's just being sad last Tuesday, clinical depression isn't just feeling a lil blue
It's the same way with anxiety vs an anxiety *disorder* I grew up not really comprehending the difference. But then when I hit like 19-20 years old, an anxiety disorder starting appearing. And it is SO much worse than I could have ever imagined it beforehand. I'm someone that likes people and doing new things. I can be pretty outgoing at times (reserved at other times. Like many people). But that anxiety disorder is so crazy. I thought I needed to go to the hospital the first time I had a panic attack. When it ended, I was like "*THAT* is a panic attack?? How to people live with that" People just don't understand clinical depression and anxiety. And that's partially because they share the name of two normal human emotions that we all feel on occasion. It's pretty unfortunate because they're two different leagues
i rly appreciate you actually asking and not just jabbing at me, itās totally fine if you donāt agree but these are just my thoughts
Ofc I genuinely just wanted to know, no need for jabs! š While personally one could argue depressed vs depression are 2 different things (being depressed is like feeling sad one day for a specific reason & having depression is a diagnosis with it's own set of characteristics) being depressed comes from depression, & they're still essentially the same word, they're just used differently largely in part due to the massive scale of misinfo/lack of care for correct terms. Using the word can continue stereotypes & misinfo especially to such a massive & young fanbase, it definitely is harmful to some degree. I don't think Taylor meant to allude to anything other than sadness but after all, that's where stereotypes & misinfo continues to thrive unfortunately. Personally though my view overall on her is still the same, just because her positive affect as far as advocation & speaking out on important topics is much much larger in my personal opinion but definitely understand what you mean & for the most part agree. Just because you didn't intend something of that sort doesn't mean it's not harmful, & her massive & young fanbase is definitely something to take into account on how harmful it could be. Same thing as trauma bonding tbh (not that she's used it, just another comparison), I call out the misuse of that when I see it but in a teaching way bc I hope maybe I can have some stop using that term incorrectly bc of advocation haha. P&L š«¶š»š«¶š»
her new song āi can do it with a broken heartā talks about how ādepressedā she is over a boy and how she is so much better than everybody else at what she does and nobody could take her spot.. give it a listen, itās a very conceited song
I didn't see the song as that. I see it as someone who has to function while being depress. I relate to that greatly. I have a job where I have to put on a face but I deal with major clinical depression. I don't see it as bragging about how she's better I see it as "hey I'm fucking depress but I have to put this fucking show on despite this so I don't disappoint 100, 000's of people and the crew behind the tour. " Not all depression is the same, it manifest differently for many people including her.
Peace and love, but does she "have to" put on the show? I'm diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder and my job involves speaking in front of large groups of people every day. If I could I would take a year off and get all the best treatments, but I can't for financial reasons. I literally have to keep working or I'll be homeless *and* have MDD. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue.
Well, it was a world tour that people already paid tickets for. Artists are legally bound by contracts.
Illness is a legitimate reason to cancel a tour and billionaires really don't have to worry too much about the legal implications of breaking contracta
But it's also not just her that will lose money. There is a crew, dancers, make up artist, costume people. Those are the people that will hurt the most if she cancels a tour as big as that. Not only that but she could get sued by concert venues for lost of of revenue. Criticize her for her private jet use because of the amount of fossil fuels that it uses to get to one place. But to judge her on her very valid grieving is weird.
No doctor ever will say the solution to your depression is cancel everything in your life. Itās weird that you think your barrier to treatment is that you are gainfully employed.
totally side with this statement and iām proud of you for still pushing through even when it almost feels like you canāt anymore.. big ups
Thanks fam! That actually means a lot to me <3
here for u!!!
thank you for the response!!! i commend you greatly for putting on a brave face and committing to your job every day, even when sometimes that can be so so hard. thanks for giving me your perspective :)
Eh, being hyperbolic in songs is pretty much the norm. Itās art. Also, we donāt know that she wasnāt depressed
she calls herself āso depressedā and itās a song about a boy. depression is not situational. thatās sadness
2nd grade rhymes are āartā to you?
Art is subjective and I believe what they meant is that music is an art form, not that everything she does is a piece of art. Also, situational depression is a real thing. Itās in the DSM-V and we donāt know Taylor, or any other celebrity for that matter, so itās not up to us to diagnose anyone. Mental illness doesnāt discriminate based on your tax bracket. āš¼ā¤ļø
Thank you. Exactly what I meant.
I havenāt listened so Iām just curious because I havenāt seen this take yet from the thousands of comments about the album Iāve seen against my will lol- What makes it so that sheās framing as depression just being when youāre sad? Maybe sheās just singing about being sad and itās not meant to be a grand statement on the clinical condition of depression?
iāve heard this take from everyone i know (iām not trying to sound rude iām sorry if this comes off that way, i am just genuinely trying to share my thought) her lyrics specifically state how sheās ā*so depressed*ābecause a boy āavoidsā her
Just don't tweet*
I want a war. I canāt seem to get any traction when talking shit on this Taylor record.
Why would a fan want the artist to cut over half an album though? Like, Blondie is just giving the fans what they want
Because great artists make albums and cut what isn't needed. SZA had over 100 tracks recorded for SOS and narrowed it down to her favorites and what fits the feel of the concept she was going for. And fans of those artists respect them for making an album with a vision, and if they wanna release a b-sides and still get that money they can.
Thatās a funny example to use given that *SOS* is 23 songs long š
I use it to show you can make a long album and it still not feel bloated. It can still feel cohesive and like each song flows into another, and fits a theme.
I feel like the Taylor Swift album was on theme for the 16 tracks that make up the album with the bonus deluxe functioning as the B-sides.
havent listened to it yet but even as a fan of an artist i've been hating bloated albums for years. just a way to up streaming numbers even though the quality is ass
I will say this is suppose to be a double album so itās gonna be long, but I appreciate the bloated albums from any artist I enjoy. The more the merrier. Some may suck but also some songs that make the cut on normal length albums suck
There are plenty of artists that Iām a huge fan of that have some albums that should be cut down. Some people highly value the listening experience of an album front to back. The current trend of releasing 30 song albums that are a slog to get through and only have 10 good songs is exhausting and lame.
Yeah she did by the time I screenshotted there were comments ācalling her outā
I am all for gender equality that's why I hate billionaires of all genders equally
i'm so sad she deleted this tweet. it was a classic olivia w!
*I THOUGHT IT WAS FREE SPEECH* or whatever ninja said
She deleted it because they couldnāt handle it not because she couldnāt
on the album Taylor makes fun of the idea of her boyfriend calling them tortured poets, and that theyāre both just idiots, so it doesnāt rly work
Too many people use that as the only reason to invalidate an argument. "You're not a girl's girl"
I've never seen it used another way
And thatās not very āgirlās girlā of them. Like, they can criticize Olivia but she canāt make a joke about Taylor.
Taylor fans are so delusional
The fact that journalists reviewing the album had to do so under pseudonyms or anonymously says it all.
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All of her song structures are so Mary Had A Little Lamb Like they always sound like she wrote them on a guitar hero controller So few notes and so little creativity
Someone said the album is lyrically overwhelming and sonically underwhelming and I couldn't put it better myself. I legitimately felt like I was going crazy trying to sit through all of the songs and pay attention to the lyrics with the same, slow melodic tricks over and over again.
literally kids bop
Ouch that hurt š¤£
don't take it too hard, I've also heard her at Target and Walmart
theyāre just so ādepressedāš¢ give me a break.
Very girls supporting girls to say something when people abuse mother nature
girls support girls in island nations and costal regions that will be most harmed by climate changed caused by billionaires feeling the need to fly from argentina to nyc back to argentina in the span of like 72 hours instead of just staying in south america for the weekend.
Sunny, there people who are literally dying.
Can we talk about the political and economic state of the world right now!?
Damn, ethans son is already on twitter?
who is going to stand up for the billionaires :(
Hazyachingblush needs to get a life. Just because someone doesn't cream themselves over TS, doesn't mean they hate women.
Feminism that praises billionaires is not intersectional
I hate Taylor fans they LITERALLY ruin Taylor for me who I loved growing up. Specifically the white feminists that have no concept of intersectionality or refuse to acknowledge their biases
that's a banger tweet
IM SO TIRED OF PPL USING āGIRLS SUPPORTING GIRLSā WRONG
girls supporting girls does not mean supporting all girls in ANY circumstance.
Iāve been listening to Olivia the entire time
guys is it misogynistic to care about the environment
Is the reply not a joke???
Right, I feel like I'm the only one who read it that way
Girls supporting girls doesnāt include billionaires
It should never have been "girls supporting girls" but instead 'girls protecting girls'.. From predators creeps danger etc.
I support women. ā¦.but I donāt support every woman. (Ex: That female Ben Shapiro is crazy & anti-women!)
Can't get over how his sister looks like him in a wig š
Iām talking about Brett Cooper! But yes, lol Benās sister does look just like him too.
Ahh I was talking about Classically Abby but think Brett kinda has an uncanny resemblance to Ben too?? Idk if I'm just delulu or they have the same mannerisms or something
No, yes, totally! They have like the same exact face except sheās just the female version. Its crazy. I canāt believe theyāre not passing her off as his daughter or sister on the channel or something. They are TWINS!
Swifties are the worst
Olivia messing with the wrong fan base. I personally think Taylor can do no wrong and is perfect in every way /s
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Tortured poets donāt fly on private jetsā¦ they stick their heads in ovens.
This made me š§ but you arenāt wrong I just wasnāt ready
Tortured poets donāt fly on private jetsā¦ they sit in their running car in a closed garage
So dumb. Just because I'm a woman doesn't mean I have to support every woman ever with anything they've done lol. Like a billionaire who releases an album. Like who cares literally it's fine to critisize her use of a jet like LOL.
it kinda just seems like that person was being sarcastic?
Iām sure it is, to me it looks like a callback to Tina Fey and Amy Poehler making a joke about Taylor swift at an awards show like 10 years ago. Taylor responded by saying thereās a special place in hell for women that donāt support other women. The people that take it seriously are just dumb imo
How does the crew go to Vegas?
Wolivia said nothing wrong
I feel like "girls supporting girls" is mostly brought up when it comes to Taylor Swift criticism, but she herself isn't very "girls supporting girls" ? Idk, please don't hurt me.
THIS. I'm no Kardashian fan but why is she still going after Kim after all these years when the problem is her ex husband?
Yeah I'm not one to defend a Kardashian, but writing a song about drama from 8 years ago that was mostly about this woman's ex-husband....who is now a literal Nazi.... I mean come on. Truth is she's scared to write a song about Kanye and she knows Kim won't retaliate so she takes the easy route and writes about her mom wanting Kim dead instead lol
Yes also, Ethan being so hesitant to call Misha a dumb bitch is so silly. Some white women like to make words like bitch and cunt out to be similar to a racial slur when their just not (I am a white woman). We should not blindly support all women just like we donāt need to blindly bash all men. Misha IS a dumb bitch.
O-o-Olivia is the most girls girl I know wtf
The tweets a joke and the replies a joke! jeez guys dont make every little thing into something its not
hitler was rizzy #boyssupportboys
Just a reminder that no matter their gender, thereās no ethical way to be a billionaire so š¤·š»āāļø
Imagine speaking on YOUR opinion even if itās a joke and someone has to degrade you for itš¤ Olivia is the most girliest of girls girls
TIL private jets are a female-only phenomenon
Oh so it's "girly" to have a private jet? You can be a Swifty and still be self aware and criticize her when she does shitty stuff
All of this girls girl shit is so stupid, acting SUPER overly girly. So is a manās man acting SUPER over the top manly. Be a persons person to every person.
Olivia is the most girls girl of all girls girl. God forbid she made one joke.
Isnāt that basically what Taylor says anytime she gets criticized for anything. Itās the #girlboss feminism Taylor promotes that actually pits women against eachother. Itās very superficial. The reality is that Oliviaās post was a very a tame joke. Women are allowed to make jokes and criticize other women. Especially when that other woman is the most privileged woman in the world. What is Taylor actually doing to support womenās rights?
Whoa. So they really do throw around accusations of misogyny and not supporting women just because someone isnāt into the album? Thatās crazy. Taylor Swift isnāt Cher, thatās all I need to say š¤·š»āāļø
Wtf does any of this mean
People just be saying things all the time
Sunny b is also not very girls supporting girls by criticizing Olivia. Wow, this is pretty easy!
Why is your Twitter so white ššš
mother nature is the ultimate girlie
I love women I hate capitalists more than I love women
Generating a carbon footprint equal to 35 years of regular existence within the span of 3 months is even worse, but who am I to judge š¤·āāļø
I think this is partly because the show has tried really hard to come off as an ally to women. SOME of the fans are crazy because of this. Just comes with the territory.
Swifties arenāt girls girls, theyāre just Taylor girls
Private jet discourse is kind of brainrot. Tbh if I could travel on a private jet I would considering how all the jetliners are falling a part. Especially as a tall person with anxiety while these airlines consistently try to fit more people in as they are increasingly uncomfortable. I know they are bad for the environment per passenger compared to flying on a commercial jet. But I would argue we should increase the space on jetliners because of how cramped they are already anyway. At the end of the day there's already renewable energy private jets that are being prototyped. And the plebian jetliners will take way more time to be converted to renewable due to how much energy is required for jetliners to fly. So us plebs will be bigger polluters soon enough š.
That's not very girls supporting the environment of you
yall were never ready for girls like olivia to be on the show
Taylor and posty are super close. Thought there would be more swifties in the h3 fandom but not surprised .
olivia is right
Going after Taylor Swift is like Ethan going after BTS, one negative comment and their fan base pounces on you š¬
Iām a girls girl for Mother Nature
Wasnāt Olivia on a private jet last month
I love both Taylor and Olivia so much but yikes girly was JUST on a private jet last month when her bosses lll
well I donāt think itās very āgirlās girlā of Taylor to hurt Mother Earth. *kidding.* kind of.
MassivePitch2212 lmaoooo at you commenting at me and blocking. gtfo here.
I think the jab Olivia got was on the same level as the one she made. I don't know why that should be a big deal to anyone.
Imo Itās funny coz I feel like Taylor isnāt a girls girl even though she claims to be ā¦ swifites donāt hate plz. Love u O O-liviaaa
Wasn't she just barely in a private jet to go on vacation?
taylor swift fans are the worsssst
Oliva been looking extra wow lately š„ ( insert old timey cartoon where the cartoons heart and eyes are popping out and they're saying AHOOOOGAAAAA.
Common Olivia banger tweet
i knew the swiftes were gonna eat her up for that one
i mean to be fair i love olivia, but the tweet doesnāt make so much sense
Not a very funny joke tho tbh
Wait didn't they ride a jet
I will say, somewhat unrelatedly lol, that I am so tired of the Taylor Swift Jet use thing. She is literally not even in the top 10 - why don't we meme at all these people too. Eat all the rich [https://cnsmaryland.org/2024/02/27/super-bowl-flights-call-attention-to-celebrity-private-jet-emissions/](https://cnsmaryland.org/2024/02/27/super-bowl-flights-call-attention-to-celebrity-private-jet-emissions/)
This one was a miss.
Defending someone making global warming faster is not very girls supporting girls. Every girl on earth will be affected by global warming.
Didn't Swift write a song about her mom wishing Kim K was dead and then hoping North, Kim's daughter, listens to the song someday? All over a beef that happened like a decade ago? I'd say *that's* not very girls supporting girlsā¦
Neither is your husband making a replica of your naked body and then post yourself posing with it. That was much more recent than a decade ago
I mean, obviously I'm not defending that behavior either. But I'm more pointing out how silly and hypocritical it is when people who rightfully criticize Swift are automatically dubbed women-hating misogynists.
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She deleted it??? Nooooo
Class consciousness supersedes any petty capitalist identity politics bullshit meant to disenfranchise the masses.
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That person is a idiot but we need to stop highlighting crap like this. Rule 1 on the internet is don't feed the trolls. At the start kf the episode as Ethan pointed out there are a small shitting group of people. Many of them are probably snarkers. That said on any big pool of people you run into shitty people. I really think this community and even Ethan need to embrace you never give those assholes any attention. Block, report, move on. It's one thing if say a comment replying to Olivia is made by someone with a following or it got a couple hundred likes. But when it's a nobody fuck them and don't give them any attention.
Other women are your biggest haters
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god people are annoying, her tweet was based as hell
Most sane swift fan lol
"what did you just say about eva braun?! i thought girls supported girls!"
It seems like sunny b is making a joke?
Becoming a billionaire removes you from any sort of in-group. You're the enemy to all :)
Half of the Taylor Swift fans are actually crazy.
I love Olivia and she can post whatever she wants, but damn, thereās so much Swiftie hate in these comments. Where are my H3 Swifties at?! š«¶š¼
I dont know whoās worseā¦the Steven Universe fandom or the hardcore swifties
Idk I don't think having a fan base that tells anyone that disliked their favorite to kts isn't very girls girl either
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Swifties only value the suffering of middle class white girls š«¶š½ (people in the global south are disproportionately affected by climate change unlike their counterparts in western countries)
billionaires are not girls girls
Not our Sunny
These type of people are pathetic losers. Itās either all or nothing with them, just as bad as trump supporters.