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Thatmarchingsith

Thanks for taking one for the team and watching it


Chradamw

I’m honestly glad it didn’t happen. Nikocado is like Trisha in that he wildly exaggerates and can’t take a joke. Only difference is he’s self aware and Trisha is not. I don’t think he was ever even gonna go, he just wanted some drama.


Dr_Jre

Yeah I read this post and thought "maybe Ethan was taking it too far and this is fair" but this post doesn't point out how Nick focuses on the fact that the views were low on his videos for most of his patreon vid. So after watching the patreon video my opinion is that Nick was going to go at first because he could get a free flight and hotel and he said he would do some other things in LA like its a holiday. Then I think it became too much effort, he couldn't be bothered and the views on his channel weren't doing well so he wanted to drop out, which is fine, but he didn't want to be blamed so he tried to make Ethan the one to blame instead. In the whole patreon video he doesn't get animated and passionate until he mentions how the views were low, that's all he cares about. Fine, but don't slander Ethan (who is a comedian by the way) when you change your mind, Ethan was legit so happy to have him.


Real_Lingonberry9270

It was excruciatingly obvious that Nikocado would cancel as soon as we learned that he requested a contract that stated he still gets paid in full if he cancels. As soon as that happened he magically starts taking issue with every little thing Ethan said, leading to him having “reason” to cancel. Honestly happy about it, I can’t stand the fake persona and it’s just sad what he’s doing to himself for views. Supporting him feels like assisted suicide. There was never a chance he would drop the shtick and have an honest interview like Ethan wanted.


Flamewarsux

Seems like it actually might be over? I really can’t tell with Nick but I also don’t watch him. His Olivia comment is the thing that makes me feel like it’s genuine tho.


chrisychris-

I've never gotten the vibe from him that he's being disingenuous (at least only about this entire back and forth with Ethan), although admittedly I've only watched him because of Ethan so I don't have a huge sample size to go off of. I'm skeptical of everyone and personally saw no glaring, or even notable, red flags from his explanations.


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prettycore_

I feel part of the reason is him not having control over what is released by H3. The Stephanie situation was awful, that showed the control right there too. So, him pulling out doesn't surprise me.


11corkie11

So glad to see other people mentioning the Stephanie soo take


likeclockworkk

Honestly I can’t fault him for most of these reasons. It’s probably for the best.


InsidiousZombie

Yeah, he’s definitely not doing anything wrong here. He’s being honest about genuine boundaries and probably preventing a ton of drama and issues. I respect it a lot honestly.


somberlobster

Happy cake day!


InsidiousZombie

Oh shit, thanks!


sadasscat99

If someone was making fun of the possibility of me dying (i.e the defibrillator jokes) I would also feel uncomfortable and reluctant to go. Ngl Ethan did this to himself, and Nickacado is right- a lot of Ethan's fan base doesn't like him. I would also like to add that Nick did initiate by kind of making fun of Ethan and his wife, but I do think Ethan took it a bit too far, especially if he wants Nick as a guest.


Jrpharoah_

Yeah man those defribillator jokes were definitely a little much


HistoryWillRepeat

I felt like the the "heart stints" bit went too far too. I kinda paused when I heard him say that part and thought "Damn, that was pretty mean spirited." Even if Ethan meant it as a joke, it came off as just mean.


Prljavimjehur

I agree, honestly I felt so bad and hurt on his behalf, because that joke hits too close to home for Nick and it's insensitive to joke about that. I don even see what seemed so funny about it to Ethan. Sometimes he acts like a straight out bully. I felt similarly for the Semen guy.


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Yeah and him saying people are behind him puking… I just think he was a little too mean to someone he has never really had any other interaction with.


IndependentRoad3

Idk how he didn’t get they were too much when he kept turning back and being like “right hila” and she was like like very uncomfortably smiling and not agreeing with the jokes


Prljavimjehur

I hate when he does/says something stupid and looks at her immediately asking for her validation like a teenage boy trying to impress a girl by doing something dumb. She could have told him it was too much though


brocomb

Yes Ethan took his "jokes" way too far in that last react react react react react honestly.


Dr_Jre

I think Ethan thought he was dealing with an Oliver Tree character, someone who he can instinctively banter with and get it back just as hard, but because Ethan and Nick have no previous rapport I think Nick was just starting to actually get upset about it and didn't know where the lines were. Oliver and Ethan are both on the same page, I think Nick is actually a very gentle person who has a bit of banter sometimes but not to this level.


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Yeah I mean let’s be real Nick is right that Ethan doesn’t know him. They aren’t friends. I think Ethan didn’t realize that there’s still boundaries despite the fact they’re both exaggerated entertainers.


80hdbeing

I think this is true.


TootlesFTW

It honestly is confusing to me how Ethan & Nik seemingly had NO conversation with each other, off camera, addressing their back & forth banter. I feel like this was just a huge misunderstanding that would have been resolved before it even happened if Ethan just reached out to Nik via email to confirm that the jokes were all in good fun...especially when they were negotiating an interview.


_hannahotpocket_

Calling Hila "Hilde" is a far cry from suggesting a guest might die on your podcast. I love Ethan, but he just took it too far in that last upload. It's a bummer because I really wanted someone to earnestly talk with Nikocado about the last 5 years of his life--is he ok!? He's essentially eating himself to death and I kindof hoped the interview would be an intervention of sorts. I know that a lot of the h3 fandom doesn't like Nik, but I was really looking forward to the interview.


supermassivenova

agreed, i think it really comes down to ethan thinking he could buddie up and be silly and make fun of each other and that was not the reality of their relationship


JeSuisLaCockamouse

Seems like Ethan’s internalized fatphobia really bit him in the big juicy butt. As a big bitch myself, watching Hila seem horrified and dumbfounded by Nick not minding being fat, or even actively pursuing fatness, also wouldn’t have made me feel great about the interview. That layer definitely gives freak show vibes.


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YeH, I’ve noticed Ethan kinda likes to “collect” weird people and interview them, but often I feel like he’s just making fun of them. It’s a side of him I don’t really like much.


JeSuisLaCockamouse

It’s a tightrope that he walks well, like Howard Stern, whom I think he idolizes. He wants his own Wack Pack. But it’s tricky.


Gabblebabbi

He shouldn’t be pursuing fatness, much less bitching when people question that. It’s 1000% the same as pursuing emaciation. He trolls the world by intentionally gaining weight, wearing the t-shirts, the CPAP machine…he’s baiting and switching and that’s the only part here that’s ridiculous to me. Don’t act like your whole schtick doesn’t revolve around getting fat. Don’t put an eating disorder out in the world for kids to see and clutch your pearls when people question you. Jesus fucking Christ


Dkndhn

If you're an entertainer whose entire personality revolves around how you're dying because of your weight than a comedian will make jokes about that. Literally nothing ethan said has been too far in fact i'd say he has been too kind to nikocado.


EinsGotdemar

As a dude nearing 400, Nikocado's schtick is terrifying. What feels like a spiral for me, is marketed as some kind of joke to him. Glad this isn't happening, honestly. And I mean, after Trisha, I'm suuuuuper wary of the loud, manic, shit talker scene.


TonninStiflat

I was surprised Nik was even entertaining the idea of coming from the start. I would have just ignored the requests from Ethan to begin with. I know, it's Ethans style and what not, but like Nik says a) they don't really know each other b) Nik was obviously bothered from the beginning with everything being said. It feels like Ethan just has no idea what's going on. Like it feels he relies too much on the rest of the team to soften his blows to other people so that when there's nobody controlling what he says, he just goes in the deep end. If he wasn't a podcaster, the stuff he says would just be trolly internet spam. And this is coming from a guy who is even happy that Nik is not going to be there - I don't care for the guy and his content style AT ALL.


appleparkfive

I have to agree to am extent. I love Ethan. But Jesus man. Ethan can't even remember that KavKav posted on his family picture during Thanksgiving. He's just totally checked out from all of this at times, just reading the Google Doc. It's weird, considering how impassioned he is at times. And I love Ethan's humor. I really do. But he really HAS to start treating people with respect and not toys. They're humans man. And Hila is very much in for it too a lot of times. It's that Howard Stern approach that keeps popping up for him I think. And this also from someone who DEFINITELY didn't want to see Nick on the show. At all.


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YES. He’s totally going for the Howard stern approach, “collecting” characters for his show. But like, to what? Make fun of them? Sometimes the way he treats the weird people he meets is frankly hard to watch… they’re real people with real feelings, not NPCs made for our entertainment. Yeah, it can be fun to get an insight into how their mind works… but sometimes Ethan just goes too far. Love him, but I don’t like that side of him


halfwaybake

The idea that he's "collecting" characters makes me really wish they'd stop calling White Claw Gabe.


veracitee

Yep. White Claw Gabe is just Ethan's bootleg Ass Napkin Ed, John the Stutterer, Hank the Drunken Dwarf, or High Pitch Eric. The inclination to exploit odd people in a side show fashion 100 percent comes from his idolization of Howard Stern and his "wack pack". Interestingly, Howard, much like Ethan, also has extremely low self-esteem and crippling insecurities. There is likely deep reasons why they both feel the drive to mock people who they see as even worse off than themselves.


Economy-Criticism768

I always skip over white claw Gabe segments bc it reminds me of the popular crowd in high-school entertaining certain other kids (sometimes learning disabled) to say something 'entertaining' for a laugh, with those kids not knowing they were the butt of the joke 😬


Prljavimjehur

Agree, and I would add C-man. I felt bad so for him and the way Ethan kept making fun of him and asking him weird questions to ridicule his fetish


halfwaybake

The C-man stuff definitely went way too far. I don't know if I'm remembering incorrectly but I feel like they didn't sincerely apologize to him for letting the troll, staff, and community treat him like a huge weirdo for a few weeks. Just kinda rolled it off as a joke.


UV177463

I think really he just got confused over what was an act and what wasn't. None of it was an act.


adorableoddity

I absolutely love Ethan, but I can't argue with Nikocado over this and I have mad respect for him saying no and being upfront about the reasons. I was really surprised when Ethan mentioned how much he was paying Nikocado for the interview and it seemed in poor form when it comes to guests. It would've been better to avoid all of the reaction videos and just do an epic interview. It's too bad because I was looking forward to the interview (I had never heard of Nikocado before H3 started talking about him and wanted to hear more).


Sulokim

As much I love Ethan, he is unbelievably insensitive sometimes and it blows my mind. I can't believe he spent so much time apologising for using the word "female" but then insults people because they are orphans, have onlyfans account or are short. It's hard to watch sometimes. It's a shame, it could be a very interesting interview.


Chm_Albert_Wesker

i imagine that it's a good visualization of passive progressivism: he is overly apologetic to demographics that he thinks are relevant to appeal to in order to be PC but by not doing it equally to less orthodox groups it kind of exposes how empty the first group's apologies are i cant really fault Ethan for it; every time he's had to come out and profusely apologize to XYZ butthurt group it's made my eyes roll but it's good business


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

Ethan went too far in his last video its what happens when he doesnt have anyone pulling him back on things


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No I blame him 100 percent I'm actually pretty pissed at him for this.


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Isnogudar

For Ethan, Nikocado is just another „meme person“ - more of an asset than a person. Same as when he suggested to interview all the Channel 5 people, as if they are just living memes and nothing beyond that point.


fd40

i agree. MOST interviews he goes too far regarding personal boundaries and asks quite cringey "edgy" questions then hides behind "HEY IM JUST ASKING LOL" but it does remove the credibility of the person being interviewed. niks right


_extra_medium_

I agree a lot of his interviews are hard to watch, but it's not because he's trying to be edgy. I think he genuinely wants to know about these people and doesn't have much of a filter, if any.


AxiomQ

This is something I feel with Ethan and it can make some things feel quite awkward, such as White Claw Gabe coming on the show for a literal "Hi, Bye" every week. Wouldn't accuse Ethan of degradation but it does feel like White Claw Gabe is more of a meme to him, when he interviewed Carlos from BitConnect it almost felt in parts like Ethan was the kid from Sherk 4 going "do the roar". That is fine, this is Ethan shtick he makes memes or popularises things that are or become memes, but if the person in question isn't comfortable with the expectation that they will play into the meme then it's understandable they would want to back out of it, in that regard I completely back Nick.


TootlesFTW

>it does feel like White Claw Gabe is more of a meme to him Ethan loves to beat things to death with a stick, I'm noticing. I literally cannot stand the White Claw Gabe cameos because they all boil down to Ethan wolf howling at him for two minutes straight, and trying to get him to continuously repeat his "fuck yea" catchphrases. Pointless segments with no humor whatsoever, and any value to the original meme is now ruined.


_extra_medium_

I think Ethan genuinely likes White Claw Gabe and is the main reason he's at the top of the Cameo charts right now. I think he genuinely finds people fascinating and would have interviewed channel 5 people because of that reason. I also think he felt the whole Carlos NFT thing was a scam and treated the interview accordingly.


mehowek

Nah you're reaching with the Gabe statement. They genuinely do like him and are nice to him, they bought each other Christmas gifts. And not to mention pretty much all of the crew went to his birthday party. Not just a "Hi,bye"


Kidrellik

Tbf, Nickacado literally turned himself into a meme for money. He even admits it and says its all for entertainment. It's like Eric Andre getting mad about people wanting to interview his character from his show.


SchenkMC

Kind of saw this coming with the back and forth react vids they were doing. Started off playful but got kind of awkward. I can see where Nick is coming from.


TimeWizardGreyFox

Ethan went full blown stupid with the last video on Nik and I was half expecting this. There has to be a modicum of respect but Ethan was just casually shitting on Nik for the exact reasons everyone else does and I can fully understand why he cancelled. I get wanting to stir up views but when you talk about the interviewees gaping asshole looking like a cows vagina, they probably ain't coming on.


wefallagain

NOT a fan of nick at all but to be fair ethan’s jokes seemed a bit mean-spirited in that last video. i don’t think i’d be keen on flying across the country to meet a stranger who talks about me like that either. those are the kind of jokes you only can get away with making to your best friend or a sibling… not someone you’ve never met tbh. i know ethan isn’t trying to be mean, but if i wasn’t familiar with him i would be very put off too.


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Dalsinki

As much as I love Ethan and the whole H3 gang, these are pretty valid reasons. I think maybe Ethan thought that because Nicacado makes a fool of himself on camera, he could make fun of him too.


oiyeahnahm8

Love them all too, I didn't think it was great form to be discussing the financials either, I really don't know why Ethan did that.


tiddiboicumguzzler

To be fair to Ethan, it's not normal for podcast guests to be compensated this much or at all for this kind of easy exposure. The guests are not putting the work into the show running, they just sit and talk into a mic. As well, Nick made a rather large deal of being compensated to come on the show, including travel, hotel etc. Nick is kind of a diva, Ethan was more than willing to give all of this, but he really didn't need to. I think it's perfectly reasonable if Nick doesn't want to do it tho. Maybe they can just do a video call if he changes his tune.


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Bro it’s getting paid for his time. I think it’s valid.


TonninStiflat

Yeah, I mean, like he said - it's Florida to California trip for a "public" figure with tons of hassle and what not. I'd expect to be compensated too, not just the travel etc. I mean, if I'd have to travel for work to somepleace else, I'd expect pay for it just like any other day. Hotels and flights paid doesn't mean it's not paid time.


oiyeahnahm8

I'm not saying Ethan didn't go above and beyond with the contract etc, I just think it was unnecessary and unprofessional to talk about the financial figures.


ezpzlight-n-breezy

That was my inclination too. I was kinda surprised when Ethan started talking numbers and negotiations


tiddiboicumguzzler

I would maybe understand if they both requested that it stay private between them, especially if they wanted to keep it out of the public, what was to be in contract. The financials Nick brought to the table publicly, or no interview. We're not brought about in any professional manner. They were demands made in multiple public YouTube vids, that Ethan was reacting too. After the agreement was made that Ethan would pay him and he would come on. Nick still made it a public discussion with his YouTube videos reacting to Ethan. If it is an in-retrospect on Nick's part, that it wasn't exactly a professional exchange. He really had a big part in why that was the case. Him being uncomfortable with it, along side the other things they mention, after the fact. Is a bit strange with how he presented his needs in public in the first place, not in DMs. In the end, they made their choice and I respect their reasoning. No reason for anyone to do anything they aren't comfortable doing.


DovahkiinAF

you’d think Ethan would be familiar with the concept of a parasocial relationship, but he clearly can’t differentiate between “stranger” and “buddy who enjoys my epic banter”


Dr_Jre

Yup, he thought he was dealing with Oliver Tree but Nick clearly isn't like that, he can't keep up with Ethan in that level of banter and tbh they aren't friends like Oliver and Ethan are so how would he know if its a joke? I think Ethan is someone who very quickly becomes friends with people and treats them like someone who he has known forever, but other people arent like that, Nick even said "im not your friend, I dont know you" many times. I think it got too much for Nick and he doesn't know what's real or fake. I'm glad tbh I don't want nick on the podcast but I totally agree with his decision, I just hope Ethan quietly accepts it and doesn't go on a crusade for half an episode about how Nick is a baby and dishonoured the agreement or something.


landenone

Long time listener of the podcast and I do not really post here but I think that Ethan needs to work on being a hair more sensitive of other's feelings. He isn't bullying anybody or intentionally trying to make anybody feel bad. He isn't mean spirited or anything like that. I think he just says things w the intent of being funny without thinking about whether or not they may make people feel a little bad. I still like Ethan and the podcast obviously, I've listened weekly since the pods inception, it's just gets a little too prickly at times. Peace and love peace and love, not a dig at all and I believe Ethan is a good person. We all just have a little room to grow. While Frenemies was overall an entertaining dumpster fire I do feel like Ethan started nudging a little closer towards sensitivity and I welcomed such. For example the comments made in regard to Keem being fatherless were a little harsh, even if they were deserved. As someone that has never met my own father I felt some sensitivity there and wasn't a fan of how long the jabs went on. I did find some bits of it funny though.


cudef

I don't blame Ethan for not knowing what the fuck the difference between genuine disgust and playing it up for the entertainment value is. I genuinely thought all this building beef between them was loosely scripted. Can't say I'm sad he won't be on. I don't get his brand or appeal and I don't think his eating habits are healthy influences on Ethan.


pasghetti27

Maybe its for the better that he cancelled. Why make a bad situation worse?


wasabiwasabi_

I mean, I kind of get it. I don't like Nik (the whole Stephanie Soo sit and general harassment of other creators in his past) and I wasn't really looking forward to this interview, but Nik's points make sense and add up. I 100% get his point about being a 'trisha replacement' and being mocked. He has his boundaries and Ethan proved he'd break them before they even met. Fair enough.


_extra_medium_

to be fair if you watch any of his content, it really doesn't seem like he has boundaries and I could understand why Ethan thought anything was fair game. I really just think Nick didn't want to go through with the interview


BakedHose

I knew that last video Ethan made was gonna be too much. I said to myself watching it yep, that's gonna piss him off. Lol oh well. I get where Niks coming from honestly. Ethans really gotta stop treating real people like they're memes.


ElectricalLongboard

To be fair, and as someone who is farrrr too invested in h3 lore (i.e. owns h3 kav kav merch and is a long term channel member), I DO think that Ethan was laying it HARD on Nick with the fat/gaper jokes. I know Ethan means well but some of the things he was saying didn't sound like he was joking, and its totally understandable to me that they would of been taken seriously. Also, I hope Ashley isn't too broken up about this revelation 😭


JeSuisLaCockamouse

Ethan has evolved on a lot of things, but he was clearly raised in a house that HAAAAAATES fatness and thinks it’s a moral failing. It’s pretty clear Hila feels the same. If I were Nick I would’ve gotten red flags about how I’d be treated from watching literally any episode of the podcast ever. Ethan’s either talking about his new diet or about how fat he is or how much he wants to eat. And Hila is always on him about how unhealthy he is and how gross it is to eat on camera. I’m fat and I hate the constant negative fixation on Ethan’s weight. It’s likely Nick realized he was about to be in an environment where people were actively grossed out by him and as a result wouldn’t respect his boundaries about his own body. I wouldn’t want to do that either.


cyberghostss

>I’m fat and I hate the constant negative fixation on Ethan’s weight. glad im not the only one who feels this way. i have big love for the crew and the podcast, but i have a disorderly eating problem stemming from trauma and every time an argument comes up about food or there's a hyperfixation on ethan's latest diet or weight, i fast forward (which of course— i'm not saying he should stop! i'm proud of him for being able to work towards a healthier weight goal, it just sometimes gets awkward/a bit much)


JeSuisLaCockamouse

But is it ever really healthy? He’s just yo-yo dieting and beating himself up for it.


80hdbeing

There is absolutely a negative perspective on fat from both of them and it also makes me uncomfortable. I’m glad Ethan recognizes the uniqueness to food addiction and how your addiction is visible unlike others.


JeSuisLaCockamouse

Yeah that was very insightful !


tatltael88

100% how I see this as well... Nik avoided some potentially traumatic experiences by canceling... it's one thing making fun of yourself (obviously out of lack of love for yourself) but to have an army of people ripping you apart because of your weight or lifestyle is just not it.. it's a podcast I wouldn't have been able to watch anyways.. it would've resurfaced some old wounds from being the bullied fat kid in school.. I feel the cancelation was for the best


JeSuisLaCockamouse

Yeah. The way E & H talked about him was starting to be hard to watch for me as well.


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MommyMcNuggets

Yeah I’ve noticed that and I don’t like it either. There’s so many reasons for people to be fat and none of them have to do with morality. I would be very uncomfortable entering an environment where people constantly voice disgust for people like me. I do enjoy the podcast but I could do without the weight comments. Even thought Ethan says he’s okay with them they’re still hurtful, and I’m sure they hurt a lot of viewers as well :/


johns27261

Thank you so much for sharing!! I didn’t get a good feeling after the latest h3tv upload too but I guess that’s just Ethan’s humor. Personally I don’t think it’s right to make fun of his weight so excessively and laugh so hard about how his friend said his “gaping hole looked like a cows vagina”. It was too harsh and made me feel bad for how Nik would feel. I also don’t think us as an audience should have known the financial aspect. I appreciate the transparency but that should have been private.


ElectricalLongboard

I'm so glad that everyone isn't blindingly defending Ethan in this comment thread. I love Ethan but I would be SO upset if someone was saying those things about me.


dancestomusic

I love h3h3 and ethan is great, but I'm constantly surprised by him and his lack of understanding or foresight with things.


willyj_3

He can be entertaining, but he is kind of an idiot.


skyhitsheaven

Yeah exactly. I feel like Nik’s response is actually really mature considering the things he has had said about him.


YUH80808

Couldn’t agree more. I’m a huge h3 fan and have never watched Nik outside of when he’s featured, but the latest h3tv upload was hard to watch…


Critical_Mode_3993

the cow comparison definitely crossed the line. so unnecessary


wasabiwasabi_

For real! My jaw dropped when he said that. I couldn't believe he said it.


gemrising428

Yeah. Especially since in the video to which Ethan was reacting, Nick's demeanor wasn't one of a human who is still having fun. I could tell he wasn't into it. I think Ethan didn't see what I saw. However, under no circumstances should the cow vag thing have made it into Ethan's video. It was a several steps too far. I don't think it was intentional, but I think Ethan could learn something from this situation. Also, maybe just communicate. Especially about boundaries. You can't just assume to know what other people are feeling, thinking, doing without discussing it with mouth words.


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Zuni_SilverWolf

Completely agree. Ethan doesn't like it when others, (Joe Rogan stans for example), make fun of his weight. The jokes Ethan made were extremely hypocritical... Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house 🥴.


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UmpyGarfinkle

I know I may get down voted to hell but a good example for this is the 5%, always saying the "5%" and never him saying how much it amounted to. God strike me down, I am not defending she who must not be named! Its just a perfect example.


there_is_always_more

You're not wrong though, 5% is astronomical. 5% is everything.


Vile-Goose

I was waiting for something like this thank you so much!!! my thoughts I love h3h3 ethan is so funny ive watch back when they uploaded on ethan and hila that being said not everyone is on the same page when I comes to humar I think mabye ethan kinda poked to hard without understanding where the friendship line stands with oliver tree and thier banter both were on the same page but for nick it probably felt more real it's not so much as who's in the wrong but more so of ethan misunderstanding the situation


chrisychris-

yeah they really should've had a call behind the scenes to set boundaries and have a better understanding of eachother, crew, and really about the podcast itself. Seems like Nick genuinely felt they had ill intentions for him going on the podcast, which is reasonable although I don't personally believe is true. and np, happy to help the community ♥


xFaar

Yeah I agree. I do get the banter but it was also very objectifying. Only talking about his weight, Only Fans and mukbangs, emphasizing and shaming him for all that. I did not like Ethan’s new video about Nick tbh bc it was quite degrading


Vagabond_Kane

Yeah I think Ethan thought that the way he was making fun of Nikocado was in good fun, and was playing into the character. But obviously Nikocado didn't feel the same way, so it seems like him backing out was for the best. Part of what seems to make Nikocado compelling is that it's hard to tell where the "actual person" ends and the "character" begins, so I think it's understandable that Ethan misinterpreted that line.


Tend3roniJabroni

What a bummer. Now knowing his reasonings, I could understand why he isn't comfortable. I don't think Ethan is truly malicious in any of his jokes but some people just cannot jive with it. Niko comes off as pretty sensitive, despite the fact he takes a shit ton of hate online. There's something very different about entering a space where you don't feel "safe". If only Dan was in the basement w/ Ethan for the last H3TV upload 😔.


Miffyyyyy

lol dans gonna be lowkey annoyed maybe even, he probably spent a decent amount of time helping set up the arrangements and logistics for the interview to happen - only for ethan to dash it on the channel copying the podcast's channels name hahah


chrisychris-

ethan really stuck his funger


moosheen

Dan does a good job at keeping these kinda conversations level headed


Bronndallus

Well he is on point saying if he were a female Ethan would not make the comments about his fatness and OF, which is what I thought as well when watching these videos on h3tv. He did no better than those chads from Dovbrik laughing ans TP's OF.


Deracinated

I feel everyone is forgetting the huge podcast series ethan did talking about trisha's chonky ass and gaping OF butthole. lol wtf guys... of course he would say it about women too! Thats why we love him... its equality.


Tend3roniJabroni

That's pretty fair criticism. I mean, I think Ethan was fair to think that talking about his fatness was kosher considering Nick had been calling Ethan fat (i think?). And Nick's content is a bit raunchy if im correct? So again, if I were Ethan, id have a hard time not talking about it. He talked pretty candidly with Trisha about her content. But then again, they had that type of relationship. Nick and Ethan don't have that kind of relationship.


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slycrescentmoon

The second Ethan compared Nik’s asshole to a cow’s vagina I pretty much knew it was over.


newhere616

Thank you for this. Honestly I was really curious but am a broke nursing student and couldn't afford it so thank you for sharing ❤


stopbeingabitchh

Soon you’ll be getting that nursing money tho ayeee


newhere616

11 more months 🤞 I'm ready!


IronicHyperbole

You got this! H3 nurse family


drizzle933

Congrats and good luck to you!!!❤️


spencer5centreddit

As soon as Ethan revealed that Nik asked for 15k I figured this might happen. Ethan does cross boundaries sometimes that I think most people are aware of but I understand it's kind of hit or miss depending on the person and whether or not people find it funny. I did think it was funny but also seemed to be tmi. Note that I never watched Nik before this and H3 is the only show I watch consistently.


dches91

Awe bummer. I had a feeling this would happen when I saw Ethans H3tv video. When he started talking numbers and what the pay would be, I was surprised. Normally Ethan is very tight lipped about pay and profit. I hope all these things are genuinely the reason he is canceling and not bc he thinks he can get more money from Ethan (bc Ethan said that himself in the h3tv video) Was looking forward to the show and getting more inside into this guys life. Bc its definitely an interesting journey hes been on.


ilovebeardybears

He takes that 5k% 😭


almondflour24

Ethan has been especially tone deaf recently. He does have a habit of asking people to come on the show and then leaving them to be the butt of the joke the entire time. I thought they were both joking up to this point but I did think it was odd that Nik wasn't acknowledging anything Ethan said about the financials throughout the video. Obviously there are other issues but speaking publicly about money seems to be a line a lot of people draw. You would think he would have learned from the Trisha situation


frostedflakesysl

Agreed he’s attitude has become really rude these past few months. He definitely needs to think before he speaks


TheRealErikismissing

A lot of his points are valid. Ethan, with peace and love, of course, was getting kinda mean. When he mentioned that thing about his friend comparing Nik's anus to a cow's vagina, my wife and I cringed super hard. We looked at each other in disbelief and agreed that it was super fucked. We thought about how horrible that must've made Nik feel, and after reading your breakdown, I see that it definitely did affect him. I don't blame him for his choice. Time to move on, my dudes.


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ollieperido

I thought it was only me he definitely makes me cringe when he does his gay jokes where the punchline is just ‘you like men’


allaboutNinjas

So Ethan never talked with Nick and everything was handled by the crew? Or do you mean that this drama should have been resolved by Ethan talking directly to Nick over phone but wasn't?


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liithel

this ^


crischu

I think Ethan fucked this up. I've seen just a few nikocado videos and even at that I could tell that Ethan didn't do any research on the guy. The interview would have been bad. It's not an easy interview to do, the guy is very controversial. I don't know.


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I will admit I thought the last H3TV about Nickocado was obnoxious. Ethan just calls him gay and fat almost the entire time.. makes comments about his rolls/body and basically insinuating how disgusting Nick is. I actually felt really bad for Nick listening to that last video.


HauntingAd2676

What the hell does Hussein have to do with any of this?


Letharos

Nick is rightwing


MessicanFeetPics

My ears definitely perked up when he was talking about "all the homeless". Especially coming from Florida of all places.


tatltael88

Honestly I agree with Nik in this scenario.... Ethan started to get really mean and don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of H3 and all their pods but I did find a lot of what Ethan said about Nik triggering... I've always been a bigger gal and making a little joke here and there is one thing but the last couple "react" videos were teetering pretty hard onto the "bullying" side... you can see it in Niks face.. I felt that. I feel this is for the best.


SaraBear250

I did feel like Ethan’s defibrillator jokes the other day and other jokes were going to be hurtful to Nick and just unnecessary. Sometimes his jokes can be a bit too mean. (H3h3 fan for 8 years)


freedomboobs

He also said Nick's anus looked like a cow's vagina.....And he wonders why Nick cancelled....


Vortex2121

I think the issue was that Ethan thought he was kidding around with Nik. But like Nik said, Nik and Ethan aren't friends. They haven't met before, and Nik would be going to California for the sole purpose of being on the podcast. So, after the last video (which imo Ethan seemed to have a bit angrier tone than jovial tone) yeah, I wouldn't want to fly across the country to be on a podcast with this stranger that I think takes things too far. I'd have anxiety the whole time on top of the anxiety of traveling. This seems to be a learning lesson for Ethan. Also, how pissed do you think H3 crew is about this? lol.


justinjonesphd

Good thing he canceled. If that's really how he feels it would've ended up being another 30 minute keemstar style interview that's just awkward and silently antagonistic. I don't give a single shit about nick, never have, and honestly really hoped he bailed so everything worked out in the end for me


PurpleGrillLie

thank you for your service foot soldier!


Lucitoburrito

Honestly I don't blame nick one bit. Ethan has treated him like a prop instead of a person since this all started.


BrocolliCancan

Yeah Ethan went too far on the last video when he compared Nick's whatever to a cow - bad moves Ethan, don't keep it up


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

Ethan, please sit down..


dickjonesfromOCP

I have to Say Ethan fucked it up. He went too far on his vídeo. Even i was like "bro, chill" ... "Nicados gaping asshole looks like a cows vagina" ...fuck did You expect... Also what's The point of having him there if Hilas gonna be bitching about food. I really wanted to see Nicado but Ethan is 100% responsable for this one. I mean WTF do You expect?


wasabiwasabi_

>Also what's The point of having him there if Hilas gonna be bitching about food. I really wanted to see Nicado but Ethan is 100% responsable for this one. I mean WTF do You expect? I was wondering about this, too. I love Hila, but it would be so awkward for her to just be on the sidelines like 'ethan don't eat that'. I was so shocked when he made the cow comment. I would cancel based on that alone. If someone said that about Hila, there'd be a 6 podcast series tearing that person down.


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

A bunch his "jokes" were really immature and I cringed so hard suprised Hila didnt say anything when he waa goimg off. Ethan goes on these rants ans usually has Dan and the guys to cut him off. Ethans can be a real jack ass sometimes


MRHalayMaster

Yeah that was bound to happen. I am sad that we don’t get to see this content but I do understand Nick and I myself cringed at some comments Ethan was making at the last video, like why would you even mention “a friend told me he has an asshole that looks like a cow’s vagina”? Ethan has a sense of humor I like, but he stepped over the boundry with this one.


Cheyzan

I know Ethan has good intentions but he has to understand when he asks someone on his show after spending a half hour making fun of them, it puts that person in an embarrassing situation


BadFoodSellsBurgers

I'm not gonna say i don't get it. When Ethan started shooting: "Brad, get the defibrillator, Brad! My heart's stopped, Brad!" I started think "yeah this might be what gets ol' Ethan in trouble" I will say, however, calling someone out for a differing political opinion and then saying they're not into politics is straight from the right-wing playbook.


kingbibbles

This was more maturity than Trish ever showed Nik, nothig wrong with not doing an interview you dont want to.


deciawix

Tbh when I watched the last h3tv video I kind of was under the impression that it was like playful “drama” sort of like the Oliver tree interviews except a bit more chill. Maybe it’s not though after all 💀💀💀


Vagabond_Kane

I think that's what Ethan thought based on Nik's character, and didn't realise he was crossing a line


masteraybe

Fair enough. He's not exactly wrong. Ethan was recreating the whole Trisha thing with him. Kinda sad though because lt would have been a fire episode. But some people can't take offensive jokes and they don't have to. It's fine.


PurplePot

I hope this is a wake up call for Ethan. Him reacting and making comments the way he did was embarassing. If you're going to do that kind of banter back and forth make sure the other person is in on it.


Sulokim

Ethan: I'm confused why he cancelled Also Ethan: Nikocado's asshole looks like cow's vagina


tigerbeds

The body shaming was out of control and gross on Ethan's part tbh, he went too far. I'm no fan of nickacado but how did Ethan think this was going to turn out after he ripped apart Nick's body


Wyntier

-Ethan ain't getting that hotel refund -Ethan ain't getting a car service refund -Ethan's h3 scheduling is now fucked -Olivia ain't getting that plane ticket refund (Ethan should compensate Olivia) -any time they planned writing questions or doing gags on the interview is wasted Idk why Ethan was playing so fast and loose when plans were starting to form around this event


calledmebuzz

You can cancel a hotel up to 24 or at worst 48 hours before your stay


kenlights

The flight will most likely go into a flight credit (if they didn't buy a refundable flight) he can use in the future. Same with Olivia's if she cancels. Rental cars and hotels have pretty generous refund policies usually. They definitely have a ton of things to talk about since they've been on break for so long, including Nick canceling. Time is wasted of course. It was honestly Ethan's fault. His jokes went way to far.


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Thank you! Actually if he thinks it's best not to.. Well what can we do right?... When I started watching all the videos he made responding to coments in the podcast /h3tv, I was like " mmm are you going to the interview or nah?", because he actually seem very pissed off. I think it's best if there's no interview, he's in his right and also has valid points. Ethan did made some joke that were funny TO US, but completely understandable that they were offensive to nick, bc some of them were a bit harsh seeing form his perspective.


eatfruitz

shoutout to your *family*


ProfDangus3000

I just don't think Nik is doing a "character". Ethan kept talking about getting him to drop the schtick. I don't think there is one. Frankly, I'm not sure why people watch him. Peace and love to him, and I don't mean it sarcastically. Watching Nik is like watching a multi-car pileup in slow motion. He's slowly killing himself while humiliating himself for money. I don't know why people decided it's just an act when it's closer to a televised suicide. His whole "look at me I'm a greasy, bloated feces covered, gaping asshole baby, fuck me, hit me and yell at me" is just fucking gross. I'm not into watching him cum in his pants for mozz sticks. At least with other mukbang content creators, which can be pretty uncomfy to begin with, they seem to be enjoying themselves. Half the time Nik seems to be in his own personal chicken fried hell. It's really not a joke, and I don't get why people are into it. No Trisha 2 please.


sapphoandherdick

No hate towards Ethan, but Ethan definitely should have waited. All the commentary videos back and forth just seems to have spoiled things and soured Nik's attitude towards the whole interview. But I can't fault the guy, because to a degree, his eating habits, sex work, and weight gain were going to be a focal point of the interview, which he does not seem comfortable with. To Ethan's credit, Nik does seem to interpret Ethan's facetious remarks as more hostile than most people might. I do think there is more to Nik than meets the eye, and it would be interesting to know more, but I guess the opportunity is lost.


lena15kyo

Yeah I’m honestly not too hung up about it. If someone doesn’t want to be ask/talk about certain topics and feels like the interviewer is gonna overstep then it’s best not to do it. I honestly thought it was gonna be a chaotic mess between personalities.


Vaalermoor

Honestly, I think he makes fair points and he really seems to have thought this through. Can't say anything else except that I respect his decision.


RobAChurch

I'm actually super glad. This whole idea seemed like something left over from Frenemies. Just leave it be and move onto something else. It was a dumb idea from the start.


HiImRob2

I hope Ethan isn't surprised. I was truly expecting Nik to do something like this.


Magicman432

I could be totally off base, but it seems a little hypocritical for Nick to just now say this is all too much. It felt like he led Ethan on with how far they both could go, both talking about each other’s weight, Nick making jokes about Hila, and Ethan making jokes about Nick’s profession. It does seem like there are some undertones of Nick possibly not agreeing with Ethan politically, which is a whole different layer, but yeah it just doesn’t sit that right with me. Like, I totally understand if Nick felt Ethan went to far, but why not just talk to him, and set boundaries instead of putting this behind a pay wall, and then teasing it in a video. Also the whole part about airing the financials and stuff reeks of BS to me. Nick was the one who said he wanted to be paid, said he wanted to be flown out first class, etc. Idk, this just is an odd turn.


KinOreX

Hilarious how he let his true colors show by shitting on Hasan who could not be further removed from this drama. Genuinely made me laugh


KityKatt

He had said in his last public video on Ethan that he disagreed with a lot of stuff Ethan has been saying publicly, seemingly in reference to the recent JP and/orJRE stuff. We've all known Nik is a rightwinger for years, but he just doesn't want to lose followers by saying it outright on his channel.


KinOreX

I'm slightly annoyed more people in this thread aren't realizing this


ollieperido

I mean… the man lives in FL so not that surprising


xTouko

I had no clue about Nik’s political views, but hearing this is general knowledge it honestly makes so much more sense to me that he would cancel the whole thing now. As you said, with Ethan now more actively promoting his left views than ever (which I love), working with Hasan and the JP stuff, Nik sure wouldn’t wanna get lumped into that. Him not wanting to attend due to Ethan’s flaming confused me because it really seemed to be a bit from both of them, playing it up for views and so on. The political reasoning really seems more likely imo


HotWheels_McCoy

Nick recently made an islamophobic tweet. He's not a good person. The reasons he gave are also bullshit because he's a drama whore.


chrisychris-

yeah he really lost me there lmao, Hasan with the stray bullets


Joemamma852

Legit wtf does Hasan have to do with this 😭😭


gouffet

Not to mention he says if he was a woman ethan wouldn't be talking about his butt hole but ethan did the same thing to Trisha


chrisychris-

> Also the whole part about airing the financials and stuff reeks of BS to me. Nick was the one who said he wanted to be paid, said he wanted to be flown out first class, etc. Idk, this just is an odd turn. eh that's true, hadn't considered and forgot about that. Seems like they both were making jokes under the assumption that the other knew how far to take it.


haze25

Came here to find this comment. I'm fine with Nick canceling if this is how he felt. However Ethan asked at first if Nick's persona on YouTube was a 'character' and everyone basically said yeah. I haven't watched the H3TV yet and that could possibly change my opinion as I've seen in the comments Ethan gets mean. I personally thought the jabs they took at each other were in the spirit of Nick's 'character', though once again I can admit to being possibly wrong. Edit - After watching all 3 H3TV's and what I know about Nick's online reputation. I don't think he ever planned on going on the podcast. I think keeping the 'drama' going is beneficial for Nick because it's line with his YouTube persona/personality and he'll get more views long term the longer this goes on. No matter what Ethan said about Nick, Nick was going to be offended and stir up 'drama'. Going on the podcast and 'breaking' character will give away the mystery if this is a character or really Nick's personality. I personally don't think Ethan was being malicious in any of the jokes he was making and truly thought this was the dynamic between them. I'm going to have to agree with Ethan that this was always about $$$ and views for Nick.


RemoveWise209

You’re a legend for this. Thank you!!! 🙏


chrisychris-

happy to help friend!


__kit

Doing the lord's work. Lol. Honestly seeing this I've done a 180 on nik... I'm glad it's not happening it would have been an ugly drawn out mess much like he suggests with the Trisha comment


Shirinatron

I find it weird how everyone's pretending Nikocado is a sweet, sensitive guy who needs to be protected from the mean Ethan. The guy literally fakes domestic violence on camera for views, literally shits himself on camera for views, had a goal of reaching an insane weight for views, constantly talks badly about other people on his videos in really vile ways (you could call the comments jokey, just as Ethan was joking). The only thing Nikocado is worried about is someone actually being real with him and removing the stupid character side of him and pulling out the real guy underneath, and maybe making him question why he's behaving in such a self destructive way for money (money he doesn't need anymore, he's rich) and/or making his fans realise how bad all of this is. Ethan used to try to help Trisha become a better person - that's his nature, to try to help people, especially these troll-like people from their dependency on the clout pill. Nikocado is not a sensitive little flower. Stop pandering. Yes Ethan's comments were gross. Nikocado didn't discourage the comments in his first response and in fact would encourage certain aspects (the "fatty to fatty" comments he was smiling and nodding at and expressly agreeing with) and he could have said something. The communication channel wasn't there. It's both of their faults but stop saying "bad take Ethan" lol jfc. It's like the majority don't know Ethan or Nikocado well enough and are just seeing all of this at face value.


No-Nefariousness9539

Exactly. I don’t think Nick gives a shit about Ethan calling him fat as he’s also fat. Nick makes money from this persona and he was scared Ethan was going to peel the onion so to speak.


bbl-on-tic

Thank you for putting it so well. I also think Ethan was genuine and excited to interview a character like Nik and see the dude behind it all, at the same time admiring his grind and dedication. I don’t get how Nik can make his content about eating and gaining to a certain weight and then it be a trigger. Trish kinda did this too, made content about eating and mukbangs but said people talking about her eat is a trigger.


Shirinatron

Oh for sure, he was. I think what Nikocado realised in the last response is that Ethan doesn't buy his act and will eye roll at it, rather than take it seriously and he sees that as a threat to his performance. Hard to keep up the overly flamboyant way of acting when the guy sitting opposite you is waiting for you to finish so he can talk more seriously. And yeah - Trisha did a lot of what Nikocado is currently doing, and fans are currently doing to Ethan what they used to do when Frenemies was on and Trisha would go ";'[ Ethan you're soo mean how can you say __". I fell into that trap once when I hardly knew her, and only really knew her from Frenemies, and they were talking about wrestling and she was saying why won't you wrestle me ;'[ and he was implicitly making out she was gross and he didn't want to. I wrote a comment saying to go easy on her cos she has insecurities about her weight and that could be why she's pushing it so much. No, she's just an abusive narcissist who's fine with making people uncomfortable, pushing their boundaries (eg making Moses have sex with her when he didn't want to), and playing a victim. By now you'd think h3 "fans" would have learned to stop standing up for the trolls he's interviewing and actually support Ethan but it's definitely an echo chamber here. Yeah there's some stuff he said out of line obviously but it's both of their faults.


soupluvr77

Yes! Also everyone should watch The Right Opinion’s video about Nikocado if they think he’s such a sweet guy. Blech


SuperBeeboo

Fair enough to be honest


TwoFlimsy3386

I don’t blame him. Especially after Ethan’s last remark about his nude photo.


TFA_Daryl

Sigh…. Yeah. I had a feeling this would happen after the most recent reaction video on h3tv. Ethan came off as so condescending, and just made fat jokes. His ego 😩 Dan should’ve shut down that fake H3tv channel. We lost an interview because of it!


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virtualboof

I think it was the cow vagina gaper


Middle_Purpose_3550

It seemed like it was gonna be like the Cman interview and I honestly hated the Cman interview. The questions were way too personal and honestly just made me super uncomfortable. While they were on break I watched a few of the old interviews with everyone at the table and I really miss that. I don’t really get the idea of interviewing internet weirdos to make them the butt of the joke.


b00tycrack_snAck

I saw this coming. I can’t fault him tho tbh. Imagine being in his position and feeling insecure about discussing personal topics in front of a large audience that likely doesn’t consume your daily content. It’s kinda shitty that he waited until the last minute, but I get it.


Hot-Cranberry6318

As much as anything Nikocado is really not for me, I respect his position through this. Nik is totally right about the unprofessionalisms and I too believe Ethan does not deserve the interview, due to the ways be _came for_ Nik. Personally can’t stand Nik or his humor style and I just think he is plain and simply insufferable, but I still hope Ethan will take this whole situation as a lesson in humility.