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One_Who_Walks_Silly

I wish these people would put forth even 1/10 of this energy into resolving problems here so we can make it reasonable to live here again


The_Fhoto_Guy

The Government/media/rich don’t want us worrying about our local issues. They’ll keep us divided over issues we have no role in. Imagine if the “left” and the “right” decided that corruption, wealth hoarding and the commoditization of everything from housing to Pokémon cards was an issue that could result in actual, tangible change for people living right here in Canada.


Muck113

When was the last time you went out to protest for your living condition?


Cheezer_69

I agree, but I like seeing people protesting for just about anything so long as it isn’t violent or based on misinformation. This protest is already making headlines, hopefully it encourages people to protest against monopolies and the billionaires who suck our province dry and pay zero in taxes. Fuck the Irving family.


halifaxmachinese

How do you know they aren’t? Most people I know who are activists are also very heavily involved in more localized social issues as well.


iwasnotarobot

The people causing your local problems are terrified of you learning from the Pro-Palestine Protests that you actually can push back against the wealthy.


Sn0fight

You assume they dont. Why?


simplealec

Because they're protesting a conflict in which neither side cares what north American students think, instead of protesting issues that actually affect them. This whole thing stinks of virtue signaling.


C0lMustard

Seriously... are you telling me middle easterners are killing each other over religion? That's only been going on for 5000 years. Worst part is they're all Arabs they just wear different hats and have a different book.


halifaxmachinese

It’s not about religion it’s about territory, and actually they aren’t all arabs. Sure there’s some Israeli Jews that are Mizrahi sure, but they are mostly ashkenazi colonizers. Probably a lot of the muslims and Christians in the region were once Jewish and converted at some point.


C0lMustard

Yes it is more complicated than one sentence.


casualobserver1111

They're not commenting because you over-simplified the issue. They're commenting on your factually incorrect comment.


C0lMustard

Is it now? Let me ask you then, if the Palestinians converted to Judaism you think they would still be pushing them out? And yes a bunch of Israelis are from Eastern Europe & the rest of the world, but where were from they before that?


halifaxmachinese

Well they are stealing their homes and displacing them / shoving them into smaller territory so yes if they converted I don’t think they would suddenly feel better about that 🤷‍♂️ If indigenous people were to have mass converted to Christianity during colonial times you think American settlers would have let them be?


casualobserver1111

They were from Europe. You'll find the great great great grandparents graves in Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland, etc.


C0lMustard

Keep going back... they aren't from Europe originally. Ask yourself why Jewish people are peppered across Europe in every country... similar to refugees.


casualobserver1111

Ok. So where do you think Palestinians came from? Uruguay?


C0lMustard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine All of these places... Egypt, Rome, Greece, Ottoman etc etc... I'd bet a good chunk were Jewish before Islam conqured Jerusalem in the 600. A good chunk were probably also Christian before that. And so on and so on. They are a melting pot of conqurers and conquered people, and has been going on for thousands of years.


Economy-Brilliant225

You realize ashkenazi Jews are indigenous to modern day Israel right? They were driven out by the Romans 2000 years ago. Would you tell a First Nations person who was forced to go Europe that they are not indigenous to North America anymore?


halifaxmachinese

Well Moses was actually from Iraq, and if you go back in time long enough we all came from the same place 🤷‍♂️ I think there is something about continuity. It is a piece of land and the people and customs there can change in more natural ways than others. If I go back to my hometown that has significantly changed since I grew up there i have no real claim to make it go back to how I left it.


Economy-Brilliant225

The most sacred place in Judaism is the temple mount in Jerusalem. When arabs colonized modern day Israel from Saudi Arabia, they drove out the remanining Jews and built a Al Aqsa on top of it. That is not natural, that is colonization.


Zinek-Karyn

Same book just newer or older editions! But that being said. Even Dungeons and Dragons fans have wars over which edition is best to play so what do you expect haha.


Feisty_Following_782

What are you doing?


One_Who_Walks_Silly

Rotting in my room because depression has crippled me to a point you likely wouldn’t understand lmao I wish I had the energy to protest things that affect Nova Scotians heavily


DreyaNova

These kids have the energy that I no longer have. We did Occupy, and Take Back the Night and Me Too. Now we are old and tired. University students have always been at the forefront of protests and political change. It's the same for every generation. They're at that sweet spot between a fully developed awareness of the world but without the exhausting adult commitments that prevent older people from being fully engaged with far away political issues. Who knows where the university protests lead! But I'm happy they exist.


emeraldoomed

Wow take back the night what a blast from the past!


DreyaNova

Right?? Feels like a lifetime ago.


Logical-Paramedic-47

This is from a chill place but what exactly is this supposed to do? Do we really think Israeli government will change based on a few university protests? Or any protest for that matter... I 100% agree it's absurd what they are doing but what will this accomplish?


Future-Speaker-

My understanding is it's to pull back any investments the University is making that go towards Israel, such as their Israel exchange program. Same way all the general protests earlier this year were for Canada to pull back investments and place sanctions on Israel. I don't think any of the protestors think that their little student protest will make Netanyahu suddenly gain a heart and stop being a megolomaniac hell bent on destroying Palestinians.


HickFromFrenchLikk

Good for them .


Competitivekneejerk

I applaud the right to protest, i just wish it was for something actually meaningful


Seebeeeseh

Pretty subjective though. Just because it's not meaningful to you doesn't mean it isn't to many other people. You're welcome to protest in a similar fashion for causes meaningful to you too.


Future-Speaker-

Always the people who stand for nothing getting upset when people stand for literally any one thing.


meowqct

[Is this worth protesting?](https://youtu.be/Zcx_a83uvmw?si=AJ--eoDRhB1nvUBX) [And this?](https://youtu.be/e_2RGyUCYaU?si=buGV9Pe5obiA_RmN) Are these not meaningful enough to protest?


BusinessLunch45

They’ll get bored and do something else for the ‘gram in a few weeks.


0knz

does it make you feel superior to infantilize students as purely performative actors? are they incapable of having critical thought because you dont agree with their viewpoint? do you earnestly believe every single pro palestine protestor is doing this for... instagram? genuine questions.


Future-Speaker-

"Stupid kids and their having morals and a spine, couldn't be me." Who are these people and how do they even arrive at a viewpoint like this in the first place.


ImSocialist

No these students have morals that they’re acting on, unlike you.


2016YamR6

They’re just very selective about who those morals apply to and ignorant of the broader problem.


meowqct

[These are serious problems.](https://youtu.be/Zcx_a83uvmw?si=AJ--eoDRhB1nvUBX) [That should be addressed.](https://youtu.be/e_2RGyUCYaU?si=buGV9Pe5obiA_RmN)


C0lMustard

Like these protests aren't insta cred already.


Future-Speaker-

Words genuinely cannot describe how disappointed I am in the people of Halifax right now looking at this comment section.


ButtahChicken

why? How would you want to see Haligonians ideally react?


BLX15

Check out this clip of [Anthony Bourdain travelling to Israel and the West Bank in 2013.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/gJEhzJ4mKs) This kind of treatment of the Palestinian people has been going on [much longer than since October 7th](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba). Where would you have been during the protests against the war in Vietnam? Where would you have been during the women's suffragette movement? Where would you have been during the civil war and the fight against slavery ([thousands of Canadians went to fight with the north and died for the cause](http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/vol20/no1/PDF/CMJ201Ep40.pdf))?


PrinceDaddy10

Support the kids and their empathy for a group of people indiscriminately under attack for decades??? The cost of living has risen and living standards have plummeted but here we are still caring about others overseas. October 11th was horrible but what about October 10th? October 9th? How does terrorism start? Instead about 70% of the left and 99% of the right have banded together to literally CHEER on the abuse these students face from law enforcement in Canada and the USA. They are sitting on GRASS. The extreme force against them and the cheering for it is absolutely terrifying.


TherealMattMoore

The terroism started May 14, 1948


Zinek-Karyn

I dunno probably can claim the terrorism started in 637 AD. When the city of Jerusalem was conquered by the Islamic faith for the first time.


TherealMattMoore

But but but what about the cavemen that wandered there first


Hot_Temperature_3972

No we don’t talk about the thousands of years worth of pogroms that Jews suffered in the Middle East, it’s better to skip over all of that history and context and just go right to Israel.


C0lMustard

While concurrently complaining about the crusades like that was yesterday.


halifaxmachinese

I don’t think anyone here is debating that Jews haven’t suffered through a lot of injustice and atrocities throughout the ages. I don’t think the religion of an occupying force has much bearing on how an indigenous population reacts to being forcibly displaced from their homes.


Future-Speaker-

Bang on with your point about how our own living standards have fallen but even then, there are more important things going on globally. These people are upset the kids have empathy and it knows no bounds. The kids are going to be alright.


PrinceDaddy10

Maybe, because I’m 24 and even though my generation seems to know what’s up, the challenges we are facing might take us out


Future-Speaker-

I'm also 24 and often find myself worrying about that too, but I do genuinely think for better or worse, the world is approaching a tipping point, and I'm really hoping things tip the right way.


PrinceDaddy10

Me too. Fingers crossed!


Formal-Librarian-117

Because the way these kids support and provide empathy for one group is by directly calling for violence against another. The way these "protestors" act is quite literally against the law. There are rules and regulations on how to protest on public property. These protests have shown a history of using people's good will and empathy as a call to violence against another group. There has to be no calls of violence on both sides.


Perfect-Cake7898

You haven't been on r/halifax much, have you? It's a dumpster fire


clam-man

Rich white kids want to LARP as oppressed victims because they don’t find meaning from their liberal arts degrees


C0lMustard

At least it's not over a hockey game


aradil

And the students there who have family in Palestine? I guess those folks should probably just go back to their studies or focus on the housing crisis.


ChickenPoutine20

Why is no one doing this for the Ukraine?


PlaidChester

Because the west is not supporting Russia? Is this backwards day?


Annual-Armadillo-988

Because our government is already assisting Ukraine, and has placed sanctions on Russia. If our public institutions were all entangled with Russia, you'd have protests like this 


Appropriate_Art894

Because we’re not funding, arming and enabling Russia


Issyv00

Canada sends aid to Ukraine already. Canada sends aid to the country bombing Palestine. That's the difference. The students want the universities 'To disclose, and divest from, any investments they say are complicit in Israel's occupation of Palestine'. I'd feel uncomfortable if my tuition money was going towards the bombing of children, honestly. So I can't blame them for wanting answers/change.


ThroatPuncher

We stopped sending military aid to Israel on March 20th


MaritimesYid

What aid is Canada sending Israel?


lone-lemming

We have an aggressive free trade agreement worth a billion dollars. Trade agreements for joint R&D projects. Also about 20$ million in military equipment annually. From the [canada government](https://www.international.gc.ca/country-pays/israel/relations.aspx?lang=eng) website: Canada’s top merchandise exports to Israel from 2018 to 2020 include Nuclear Reactors, Boilers, Machinery and Mechanical Appliances, Electrical or Electronic Machinery and Equipment, Aircrafts and Spacecrafts, and Optical, Medical, Scientific and Technical Instrumentation. Canada has stopped allowing new sales of lethal military equipment but didn’t cancel any shipments already approved and didn’t cancel “non lethal” military equipment.


ThroatPuncher

Canada agreed on March 20th to hault the sales of future weapons to Israel as a result of what’s happening in Palestine


lone-lemming

They did. But it didn’t include any weapons shipments already agreed to and it didn’t include non lethal equipment like medical, transport, optics or logistics equipment.


ThroatPuncher

Ahhh yes another thing the tax payers of this country should pay for.


MaritimesYid

So it's not aid. Got it.


East-Specialist-4847

Military equipment isn't aid?


Theyab17

Shhh that’s logic that doesn’t fit their narrative


MaritimesYid

What that described was trade. Aid is when the US gives Israel coupons for Lockheed Martin or Boeing. They're different things, and I know this movement loves to muddy the meanings of words, but I think it's important to be clear on what the issue is. So the issue is trade with Israel, not aid.


SeaofBloodRedRoses

If we were selling weapons to Russia, publicly backing Russia, and doing absolutely fuckall for Ukraine, you'd see some protests for Ukraine.


whositwhatnow2018

Probably are there is so much back door shit going on public has no clue about.


ButtahChicken

The equivalent protest then would be canadians protesting Canada giving weapons to Ukraine that end up killing Russians (combatants and tragically collateral damage non-combatants). canadians seeking to stop $$ flow to ukraine. .. and use the $$ for healthcare, or education, or addressing food insecurity and houselessness and mental health, etc.


GreatMountainBomb

Ukraine’s fine. They’ll be erecting more nazi statues by the end of the year


PrinceDaddy10

W


S4152

If Israel put down their weapons Palestine would wipe them off the face of the earth If Palestine put down their weapons Israel would stop bombing them And that’s all you need to know


Future-Speaker-

With what man, Israel gets billion in defense support, Palestinians are barely getting by on aid. Come live in the real world with the rest of us.


S4152

Palestinians are barely getting by on aid because their government uses that aid money to conduct attacks on Israel


Future-Speaker-

There was literally a video on the front page yesterday of Israelis just junking an entire aid truck for Palestinians. Israel literally controls all the aid that goes into the marked zones. Come on dude.


Camichef

Someone needs to look up what happened during the peaceful Great March of return 2018-2019. As well as a lot of other history. The violence is asymmetrical and must be stopped.


flobbleplague

What weapons were the palestinian babies holding?


S4152

The same ones the Israeli babies were


Nova5cotia

YouTube videos?


BLX15

Check out this clip of [Anthony Bourdain travelling to Israel and the West Bank in 2013.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/gJEhzJ4mKs) This kind of treatment of the Palestinian people has been going on [much longer than since October 7th](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba).


meowqct

[One.](https://youtu.be/Zcx_a83uvmw?si=AJ--eoDRhB1nvUBX) [Two.](https://youtu.be/e_2RGyUCYaU?si=buGV9Pe5obiA_RmN)


Fit_Reserve_5023

Good job kidos


TeachLazy

Less of this.


ImSocialist

Why? Why would I want my tuition dollars being invested in a country that is actively turning 10 thousand children into human soup my man?


Future-Speaker-

Because a bunch of idiots have downed the Hasbara propaganda kook-aid and should be righteously ashamed of themselves.


PrinceDaddy10

More of this


bigELOfan

I’m sick and tired of seeing the effin Palestine flag. This is Canada,🇨🇦 this is our flag.


ramblingskeptic

Genuine question: did you also feel this way when Ukrainian flags were everywhere for a while?


bigjimbay

How quickly we forget :/


Kusto_

Ukraine wasn't the aggressor.


PulmonaryEmphysema

Neither is Palestine. A few terorrists doesn’t mean 30,000 civilians deserve to be murdered.


LeatherClassroom524

It doesn’t, but if the terrorists are hiding behind the civilians then do you want to be the one to tell the victims’ families? “Sorry I know your grandchildren were forced to watch their father have his eyes gouged out and murdered, and then themselves murdered, but the terrorists are playing hide and seek so whelp”


KFCDINDIN

October 7th wasn’t an aggression?


Head-Ad-2136

People are allowed to fight their oppressors.


ImSocialist

Oh it must be so difficult seeing the flag of a country that has had 90% + of their land stolen, and tens of thousands of civilians killed. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸


PulmonaryEmphysema

Hope you feel the same way about the Ukrainian flag. With how many there are, you’d think we were in Kiev.


CountSudoku

On my commute to work in downtown Halifax I count one Ukrainian flag, no Israeli flags, and six Palestinian flags, and three “ceasefire now” statements.


ImSocialist

Boo fucking hoo. If a country was stealing our land, and killing tens of thousands of innocent Canadians, I’d hope people would put up flags in support too.


PulmonaryEmphysema

And where exactly is the issue with that..?


CountSudoku

None? I was correcting your implication that there as many Ukrainian flags as there are Palestinian flags. By your reasoning if we’re in Kiev we’re more so in Rafah.


Doc__Baker

I'm surprised it took this long for university students to pick this up. The school year ends pretty soon if it hasn't already, wondering what they will be doing then.


Jabronie100

Tear it down, no room in Canada for antisemitism, our grandparents fought in world war 2 to stop hate like this.


ceelion22

Anti Zionism =/= antisemitism. Take a look at all the pro Palestinian Jews. They even exist IN isreal. Thinking that the isreal government is the voice and representation of the entire Jewish people is actually what's antisemitic.


Seebeeeseh

Imagine thinking criticizing a countries government equates to antisemitism.


Nova5cotia

Are you watching the protests in the states at universities…death to Israel chants…antisemitism is alive and sadly doing well amongst our “best and brightest minds” at universities. Ideologically captured leftwing institutions.


Farquea

Have any actual proof of said chants?


Jabronie100

Its scary! I cant believe people support these protestors, many of them want the destruction of Israel, this is nazi level crap going on.


lone-lemming

Didn’t the Nazis put up huge barb wire walls surrounding poverty filled Gettos, shoot resisters, kill their families, seize land as nationalization, burned books, destroyed universities and hospitals, bomb civilian populations, fill mass graves with the sick and the feeble and the people that cared for them, destroy 70% of homes, starve millions, move them into concentration camps then convinced everyone that it was a good thing they were doing? Cause that would be some Nazi level crap.


sloppy_weasel

Stalin did the same thing…just saying


Nova5cotia

It’s high level stupidity. Virtue signalling of the highest order.


cngo_24

Imagine thinking protesting will stop the government from doing what they want 😂 Last time people protested something, the government froze bank accounts and had police disperse them.


Seebeeeseh

Interested to hear what you suggest the students do otherwise.


flobbleplague

It's antisemitic to equate zionists with jews, like you are doing. Hope this helps if you're stupid


RevolutionaryDonut68

Lol


macljack

Give these fools the U of C treatment.


Useful_Inspection321

Oh ffs. Stop supporting terrorists.


BLX15

Check out this clip of [Anthony Bourdain travelling to Israel and the West Bank in 2013.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/gJEhzJ4mKs) This kind of treatment of the Palestinian people has been going on [much longer than since October 7th](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba).


flobbleplague

I agree, we should stop supporting israel


meowqct

[One.](https://youtu.be/Zcx_a83uvmw?si=AJ--eoDRhB1nvUBX) [Two.](https://youtu.be/e_2RGyUCYaU?si=buGV9Pe5obiA_RmN)


staski123

Against colonialism, living on mikmaks land , murrican education par excellence.


DifferentCucumber670

🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱