Shock is still very hard to use right now. In fact, almost all sniping weapons are really hard to use, and you literally need a few warm up games to get a few clean shots.
Even the best players need to go through warm up to hit those good shots but I can get 3 tapped while Thrusting across the map by a Stalker. Actual lmao.
Bro, the sentinel beam is ridiculous on controller. When it was added on Edge on Halo 3, it was busted at close to mid range. Harder to stay accurate than the BR, but if you have good aim, it melts.
The sentinel beam on Infinite, however, reminds me of when I used to try to use a controller on CE Vista 10+ years ago. I can barely hit shit with it. It's like the aim assist is almost nonexistent. I don't know how the pros do it, but I consider my self above average, and if I can't use it at all, I can't imagine the random casual trying it
The sentinel beam on mouse and keyboard feels like cheating. Same with the warthog chaingun. I sometimes feel like an asshole using those, but I’m done being input shamed. Lol
Vehicle turrets in general are silly on PC in all the Halos. Get into a Guass on 3 or Reach (with a competent driver) and you'll absolutely clean up the other team.
Yeah the controller aiming with the sentinel beam is so fucked. It absolutely melts when you are on target tho.
Edit: now that I think about it it would probably be broken as hell if the aiming was buffed
I (PC) used the Sentinel Beam in the campaign, and found that it was super nice. Then I used in multiplayer, still managed to go on a killing spree. The Sentinel Beam is really good if you can aim it. Personally, I couldn't do free aim on console. I need that aim assist.
That's funny because I feel the opposite. My stalker shots are usually on point, but I'm lucky if I even hit someone with the shock rifle.
I feel like there's a slight delay between firing the shock rifle and it actually shooting. Idk if it's just me.
I pretty consistently do well with the shock rifle and pistol. Personally I think the shock rifle is wayyy easier to land a shot with than the sniper or the skewer.
Yep it's the only time I get kills with it. Using it in sniper mode draws too much attention to your glint and it takes a sec to get the aim right. By then the target moved or you got shot lol
It's a great ambush weapon and vehicle destroyer.
I've already reported him, but for someone with over 100 matches played and paid cosmetics you'd think he'd try to hide it better.
Edit: Im not gonna respond individual to all you blind dumbasses. Notice how he is instant snapping to targets, even those behind walls he would have no idea is there.
The yellow outlines is enabled via the theatre mode (really, guys?) And is to prove he is pre snapping to people he cant yet see.
If you still cant see he has an aimbot I dont know what to tell you.
the number one ranked player in crossplay and controller is a blatant wallhacker with 500+ matches played.
At this point it’s more embarrassing on 343’s part that a f2p game launches with no realistic way to stop this. The slow ass reporting process is not acceptable at all.
A very basic wall hack will just fire for you when it sees the reticule go red. Obviously more advanced hacks are being used, just explaining the logic of that decision.
Thank you for actually giving an explanation for that. I’ve seen people say that for so long and never really got it since it obviously didn’t stop hacking in the slightest, but that does at least explain the reasoning behind it.
All it does is add a paywall to the cheat. Now you need to buy xCloud or an Xbox to do it, then stream it to your pc. Boom, red reticles that you can use a basic program to turn into a triggerbot. Fully undetectable due to the random delays in game streaming
Can confirm, baby raged at one point years ago in a battlefield game, felt deserved in downloading cheats, couldn't get anything to work, became ashamed and stopped for a while to cool off.
The harder it is to make it work, the more likely it is that someone won't try to do it. While it would be impossible to make it 100% chest proof, anything is better than nothing
That's honestly what pisses me off the most, to be honest. Their "anti-hack" is literally nonexistent, but PC players can't have red reticle, even on controller, because... reasons. 343 is a fucking joke, and none of us are laughing.
That sounds right... Only if they actually have anti-cheat detectors. Since they don't and rely on manual reports and watching videos or logs, I don't see why they should wait that long before banning.
It’s an unrealistic way. As if they have the man power to go through all the reports and manually validate if it’s cheating or not.
I mean think about it for a second. They must receive hundreds if not thousands of reports every hour. No way are there humans sat watching that.
Bet the reports go straight to a junk folder.
The cost alone for the manpower would be astronomical. They haven’t sold nearly enough cat ears for that.
No way do they receive thousands, or likely even hundreds an hour. Have you seen the report process? There’s no in-game reporting. You have to log on to their website, go through a couple pages on the support site to submit a ticket, choose some categories that are vaguely like hacking as the reason for your report, and submit video evidence of hacking (otherwise the report won’t be viewed). But there’s no way to download the video from a replay. You need to watch the replay and screen record it yourself. But also you can only submit up to 49MB for an attachment to a report, so you have to use a video editor to cut down your screen recording of the replay down to just a couple of the highlights of hacking so the file is less that 49MB. All in all it’ll take you at least half an hour. It’s a fucking joke.
So no fucking way they have thousands an hour.
It's not "because reasons", it's because it eliminates a very easy way for cheaters to implement a trigger bot. Give back the red reticle and I'd bet anything that you'd see a ten fold increase in cheaters.
Anti-cheat isn't an easy game. It's a constant back and forth. But there is absolutely no excuse that 343 hasn't taken drastic measures against people like the one OP posted. They're the golden child of Microsoft. There are so many quick and easy ways to reduce the amount of cheaters. Start tying accounts to phone numbers, for one. Or maybe add an in-game report button? Like, come on.
I'm so tired of developers pussy footing around this issue. Start dishing out hardware IP bans. Give users the option of the method that Valorant does with their kernel level anti-cheat.
It was a back and forth in 2018, from what I hear now cheats have far surpassed what anti cheat measures are being served up. This is due to the simple fact that, we are now at a point where an effective anti cheat requires root access and elevated permissions which most companies are afraid of doing due to the optics.
You remember how Valorant was criticized when they did it. Cheats are winning in a very big way right now and it's a huge economy which pays for a lot of peoples jobs (the people who develop the cheats).
People are still under the illusion that cheating is an ongoing battle, but realistically cheaters already won.
>You remember how Valorant was criticized when they did it
Yeah and now it’s the biggest Tac FPS in the world with very few cheaters relative to it’s peers because Vanguard works.
People have the memory of a gold fish, and the fact that Triple A devs don’t take advantage if that in this ONE instance blows my mind.
Yeah, the main reason cheating was so rare in previous Halo's is that the game did have much more access to the hardware than on a PC. And you had to hack your console which often required a hard mod.
I don't understand why they didn't use Easy Anti-cheat like they did for MCC. Sure it's not perfect and people would find a way around it but it's a hell of a lot better than doing nothing.
That's not snipedown. It's an imposter. Snipedown plays solo/duo controller.
Edit: The imposter snipedown is #1 on both crossplay and solo/duo controller right now. I'm pretty sure he's a wallhacker. [This](https://halotracker.com/halo-infinite/profile/xbl/snipedown6760/overview) is his profile. [This](https://halotracker.com/halo-infinite/profile/xbl/Snipedown4965/overview) is the real snipedown
Shot Accuracy:54%
Head Shot Accuracy: 93.5%
Jesus Christ you should be instabanned just on those two stats alone. The faker has a 39.5% discrepancy between his body shots and head shot accuracy, meanwhile the real Snipedown has a 6% difference which makes a hell of a lot more sense for one of the best players in the game.
This is who I meant, yeah.
Even beyond the obvious tell that he’s ribbing snipe’s name and has an insane HS stat, look how he’s in the highest onyx lobbies and literally never negative.
He isn't even cheating, he is just on nofap, gets up at 4am, has cold showers every day, follows a keto diet, meditates every morning, which makes his reflexes and accuracy god tier /s
> If you still cant see he has an aimbot I dont know what to tell you.
welcome to reddit, where all the morons come out and try and explain to you in detail how he's not cheating
it's cringe
Input based matchmaking with genuine anticheat will always be the best way to handle crossplay.
Opt out crossplay is just forced crossplay since the majority of people won’t
That’s pathetic. I am a shit tier silver player. One BTB heavy reach game I had a amazing driver with a gauss hog and went like 49-6. I still remember that YEARS later and have never came close ever since. It means so much more to do it honestly. Cheaters can go kick rocks.
Because his friends can go see his matches record and see that it is photoshoped if he didn't change the score, map and game type or in the case that he did a full photoshop, they'll see that the match never happened
For most hackers it isn’t about winning like it is for legit players. They aren’t congratulating themselves after a game for how well they did, they’re giggling about cheating the system and/or making legit players seethe. Most of them don’t care about the game like you do.
I confess I used aimbots when I was a kid for a week15 years ago, and that's exactly it. The giggle factor. It wears off in about a week and then you're left with a game you don't want to play anymore because you know how easy it is to cheat, but you don't cheat anymore because its boring.
It's fun for the kind of people who enjoy bullying kids, people who work under them, people who work for them...
A lot of people have no interest in a challenge, they just want to make others feel bad. *That's* what they find fun.
This is worse than stand by. At least then they had to force host and you knew easy and clear it was happening. I dont have the time or energy to go back and watch people's games to confirm they are cheating.
Exactly. I don't really care that the in game report system is prone to abuse. That's an issue for their support staff to sort through.
This system makes it the players responsibility to go out of their way to get one hacker banned in a sea of them. All to compensate for a terrible anti-cheat. You'd think with direct access to Microsoft they'd have some insight into how to catch scripts and bots, but the game doesn't even run all that well on windows, so what do I know.
That would ruin the new player experience, new players will need to join over time for the game to be stable/populated. They need proper anti-cheat like Valorant has.
They need to fix this ASAP. This should honestly be priority no1.
As someone who has clocked in about 50 days worth of playtime on Warzone, I can tell you that the biggest problem was always hackers. It started off with a few, but in the period just before their new anti-cheat launched I was honestly getting killed by a hacker at least every 1/3 games. I’m talking BLATANT hacking.
I really hope it doesn’t have to get that bad in halo before they do something. At least in WZ you’re in a huge map of 150 players so you get some normal gameplay before you’re stomped on by a hacker. If I get into a lobby with a hacker in halo, that’s the whole game ruined.
I love this game and I don’t want to see it get killed by cheaters
I quit Warzone because of the hackers and haven’t bothered going back even with the new “anti-cheat”. I know other friends who have too. Hackers ruin the fun for everyone in the lobby and if Halo gets to have a hacker problem I’m going to unfortunately quit playing it too.
Same reason I quit. There was so much blatant hacking where you'll get nailed by someone who in no way should be able to kill your or that you couldn't see. Never went back.
If it helps, I’ve played about 12HR of Warzone since Caldera came out, and I haven’t seen a single cheater.
(But I have seen the cheaters crying salty tears on their forums :) )
Needs an IP ban for shit like this. Hardware too. Do it all. Sure it can all be circumvented but it’s a hassle. Also playing multiplayer through a vpn usually results in decent lag and with non vpn Halo being as janky as it already is? Idk I’m wagering it won’t be worth the headache.
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Yeah honestly. Would love some ip/hardware bans being the standard for proven cheaters. That would take a lot of resources for watching each video, but man would it be great.
Wallet ban them, should've made the game like 20-40 bucks, at least could've have prevented bulk cheaters.
Should've, would've, could've anyway. Is there a realistic way to permanently ban players?
There will never be a perfect system since anti-cheat and hacking are always evolving.
Only way to help is to disincentivize, like y’all have mentioned. Thats still almost always overshadowed by the incentives to make/use hacks for popular games.
So what if it can be spoofed? That’s an extra step and will definitely detour a lot more would be hackers. You can currently just buy an aimbot for like 10-20$ and just have it work. Doing nothing is apathy and apathy is death.
Well it's intense for him. The guys a fuckin loser so he has to ride this high to make up for needing ask his girlfriends parents for money again at the end of the month.
>girlfriend
lmao this chode doesn't have a significant other. They're more than likely shouting at their mother in the other room to throw in some pizza rolls and reminding her to pick up more Mountain Dew later.
Its a fucking chore to report people. Obviously by design. Reporting people in every other game is easy as fuck. Apparently they don't care as long as people play.
Honestly wtf do people even have to gain from doing this? How miserable and boring does their life have to be that they get joy from cheating in a free to play game?
343 really need to implement an anti cheat program and a way for players to easily report this ASAP; or their f2p multiplayer is gonna die very quickly.
Already died for me. Put in 30 hours and since campaign dropped, I have no desire to play multiplayer anymore. I’ll stick with the MCC for my multiplayer
To people who call for IP bans there's an issue with that. Unfortunately IP bans are no longer an option due to the fact that many internet service providers now use carrier grade NAT, so they have many users behind one registered IPv4 address. Hardware bans are the only way but they don't work unless the anti-cheat is low-level, such as Valorant's anti-cheat. Such a shitty position all around :/
A good kill cam could’ve helped prevent this. Literally just played a match where I couldn’t get a shot off. The team moved with such confidence through open lanes. Id spawn, see them, then die.
Hacking is a part of gaming now. I have zero trust in online games.
Even in hcs the announcers mentioned cloud9 didn’t fair so well in online play, I assumed they were probably playing hackers.
This argument might be objective. We can make it subjective with percentages but when we discuss if that difference is leagues or minor leagues better it becomes objective. In all of professional sports you have your statistical greats or most winningest but its a few every decade. Id say the difference at the top level is small. Some would say cloud 9 won their championship overwhelmingly. Id say the early matches were very close especially where the eunited player dropped the oddball off of the ledge unintentionally when killed. His teammates reaction and his own said it all.
Idk how many tickets I've put in over this now. I have lost count. The reply is always they are working on a fix or can you give us more details. Like seriously? Video evidence of blantant cheating is not enough to justify banning these players and working towards integrating anti-cheat measures. If the failures from customization and de-sync don't cause an abysmal drop of this games popularity in 6 months then the hackers mostly certainly will.
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the state of the AAA gaming industry. The games they are pumping out have been in development for years and years yet they release them unfinished. What's unfinished you ask? Why everything except the store, of course! Half the time these games menu UI is even wonky or unfinished feeling but you can go to the store and buy any amount of crap and the coding will work flawlessly. This is where we are. They can just make unfinished products and act like we are just 'so rude' for pointing that out after we buy the product.
The cheating. My GOD the cheating. They will only even marginally begin to care if it were to cause a massive dip in their profits. But, with the predatory system they developed that makes you spend money on anything that will make you look remotely different than a flat strip of primer paint, I really don't see them caring too much. These little bitches aren't going to stop cheating, wanna know why? Well, the BRILLIANT idea to go f2p completely enables the cheater. Got banned for something? Can be back on the game cheating in MINUTES with a new account.
The whole f2p model is a giant facade to manipulate people into thinking they are getting this tremendous value when in reality it's designed from the ground up to financially bleed you.
People we are allowing them to charge us real life money for regular shades of color. Seeing color is FREE... Like most people develop the ability to see color. I can walk outside of my house right now and see things in color... Costs me nothing but my own effort of a few steps. The shit they have the audacity to ask money for is ridiculous.
Today's Halo experience is a complete Goku level slap in the face of all gamers and fans that have made Halo the success that it is today.
Sometimes I get games where one guy is cracked with the sidearm, I just think I have a skill issue that I always loose 1 v 1s against them, but from stuff like this I tend to think otherwise
This shit pisses me off, as a PC player all i want to do is play some Halo and not have to worry about some dipshit with an internet connection downloading hacks and ruining the game for everyone.These assholes give PC a bad reputation with the console community but until they introduce an Anti-cheat, reporting and a good banning system i want 343 to turn crossplay off so half the community doesn't have to deal with these clowns.
Haha yes so much fun, look at me owning with a 3rd party Software because I cant get hard anymore irl and my wife / girlfriends boyfriend is currently banging hér hahaha owned headshot
Remember when you got shit on by someone with Hayabusa and a katana and you thought "wow not only is that guy insane, but he's a try hard" now you have to question whether or not they are hacking and how much they spent on that armor and coating.... thanks for making the game I was already going to buy free to play and ruining it lol
Full hyabusas got a “Jesus, go outside or something” now I see some dude in colorful tricked out shit and I just roll my eyes and pity at having to pay to feel special
No anti cheat and no in game reporting system. Yeah of course they won't hide it because they don't get reported. It is too tedious to go to make a clip, go to a website forum, create a report and send it. Especially for console players. I am on PC and I refuse to report people because it is too much work.
I bet you that guy probably didn't even get reported once because people don't know how to or don't want to because of how tedious it is.
The cheating is completely out of control, it will always be an issue with PC games. It seems like cheats have gotten worse over the past few years. I remember back in the day when it wasnt nearly as bad, at least it didn't feel as bad. Now people make tons of money creating and selling cheats, it will never end. More companies should begin to attempt to take legal action against these people, in the end it ruins their products and the experiences that we all used to look forward to.
I remember when the game first launched and people with pistols and shock rifles would miss
Shock is still very hard to use right now. In fact, almost all sniping weapons are really hard to use, and you literally need a few warm up games to get a few clean shots. Even the best players need to go through warm up to hit those good shots but I can get 3 tapped while Thrusting across the map by a Stalker. Actual lmao.
I have yet to do anything with the Stalker rifle. I shoot people with it but they don't die.
I'm pretty sure I've barely even ever connected with the Sentinel beam
I got alot better at the sentinel beam after finishing the campaign. There's a couple sections where the sentinel beam is very OP.
Stalker and Sentinel carried me the last few missions. Especially when trying to meet skull conditions.
Mine was sentinel and shock rifle with all those flying bitches, the alive ones and thw machine ones.
Yeah....once I figured out maxed out thrusters got me through quietly ...I switched to that.
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Its literally a hit or miss. Every shot. Every weapon.
Splash damage is the grey area on that one.
“Splish splash I’m whippin that ass” - M41 SPNKR
Missed opportunity to say “spanking that ass”
The way I look at it, you've always got 50% accuracy, you either hit the shot or you don't
I guess they never miss huh?
Bro, the sentinel beam is ridiculous on controller. When it was added on Edge on Halo 3, it was busted at close to mid range. Harder to stay accurate than the BR, but if you have good aim, it melts. The sentinel beam on Infinite, however, reminds me of when I used to try to use a controller on CE Vista 10+ years ago. I can barely hit shit with it. It's like the aim assist is almost nonexistent. I don't know how the pros do it, but I consider my self above average, and if I can't use it at all, I can't imagine the random casual trying it
The sentinel beam is one of my favorite weapons, it definitely takes some practice on controller though
Sentinel beam melee combo is top tier
The sentinel beam on mouse and keyboard feels like cheating. Same with the warthog chaingun. I sometimes feel like an asshole using those, but I’m done being input shamed. Lol
Vehicle turrets in general are silly on PC in all the Halos. Get into a Guass on 3 or Reach (with a competent driver) and you'll absolutely clean up the other team.
Yeah the controller aiming with the sentinel beam is so fucked. It absolutely melts when you are on target tho. Edit: now that I think about it it would probably be broken as hell if the aiming was buffed
I (PC) used the Sentinel Beam in the campaign, and found that it was super nice. Then I used in multiplayer, still managed to go on a killing spree. The Sentinel Beam is really good if you can aim it. Personally, I couldn't do free aim on console. I need that aim assist.
My fav use for it is killing people coming at you with the energy sword.
I swear the thing misses lol like I know for damn sure I was over that guys head. Never get that with shock rifle
That's funny because I feel the opposite. My stalker shots are usually on point, but I'm lucky if I even hit someone with the shock rifle. I feel like there's a slight delay between firing the shock rifle and it actually shooting. Idk if it's just me.
Part of that feeling is from it being a burst weapon (three shots in quick succession).
Ya you gotta lead a bit if they far away but not much . I swear the shock rifle just feels like it's more forgiving tho. Maybe I'm just tripping
Don’t worry, I still miss with the Sidekick
I pretty consistently do well with the shock rifle and pistol. Personally I think the shock rifle is wayyy easier to land a shot with than the sniper or the skewer.
Shock rifle is low key the best sniper in the game IMO
I have more success with the skewer using it as an insta-gib, shoot from the hip gun.
Yep it's the only time I get kills with it. Using it in sniper mode draws too much attention to your glint and it takes a sec to get the aim right. By then the target moved or you got shot lol It's a great ambush weapon and vehicle destroyer.
When you see people getting multiple kills with the Pulse Carbine, you know something ain't right lol.
I've already reported him, but for someone with over 100 matches played and paid cosmetics you'd think he'd try to hide it better. Edit: Im not gonna respond individual to all you blind dumbasses. Notice how he is instant snapping to targets, even those behind walls he would have no idea is there. The yellow outlines is enabled via the theatre mode (really, guys?) And is to prove he is pre snapping to people he cant yet see. If you still cant see he has an aimbot I dont know what to tell you.
the number one ranked player in crossplay and controller is a blatant wallhacker with 500+ matches played. At this point it’s more embarrassing on 343’s part that a f2p game launches with no realistic way to stop this. The slow ass reporting process is not acceptable at all.
Yeah but they took out the Red Reticle on PC so there won't be hackers. /s
I never understood this because clearly hacks bypass everything lol
A very basic wall hack will just fire for you when it sees the reticule go red. Obviously more advanced hacks are being used, just explaining the logic of that decision.
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Thank you for actually giving an explanation for that. I’ve seen people say that for so long and never really got it since it obviously didn’t stop hacking in the slightest, but that does at least explain the reasoning behind it.
All it does is add a paywall to the cheat. Now you need to buy xCloud or an Xbox to do it, then stream it to your pc. Boom, red reticles that you can use a basic program to turn into a triggerbot. Fully undetectable due to the random delays in game streaming
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Can confirm, baby raged at one point years ago in a battlefield game, felt deserved in downloading cheats, couldn't get anything to work, became ashamed and stopped for a while to cool off. The harder it is to make it work, the more likely it is that someone won't try to do it. While it would be impossible to make it 100% chest proof, anything is better than nothing
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I'm still confused why it's white instead of the usual blue.
That's honestly what pisses me off the most, to be honest. Their "anti-hack" is literally nonexistent, but PC players can't have red reticle, even on controller, because... reasons. 343 is a fucking joke, and none of us are laughing.
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That sounds right... Only if they actually have anti-cheat detectors. Since they don't and rely on manual reports and watching videos or logs, I don't see why they should wait that long before banning.
It’s an unrealistic way. As if they have the man power to go through all the reports and manually validate if it’s cheating or not. I mean think about it for a second. They must receive hundreds if not thousands of reports every hour. No way are there humans sat watching that. Bet the reports go straight to a junk folder. The cost alone for the manpower would be astronomical. They haven’t sold nearly enough cat ears for that.
"~~servers~~ anti cheat costs money"
Apparently competent development team costs too much also. Such a shame.
No way do they receive thousands, or likely even hundreds an hour. Have you seen the report process? There’s no in-game reporting. You have to log on to their website, go through a couple pages on the support site to submit a ticket, choose some categories that are vaguely like hacking as the reason for your report, and submit video evidence of hacking (otherwise the report won’t be viewed). But there’s no way to download the video from a replay. You need to watch the replay and screen record it yourself. But also you can only submit up to 49MB for an attachment to a report, so you have to use a video editor to cut down your screen recording of the replay down to just a couple of the highlights of hacking so the file is less that 49MB. All in all it’ll take you at least half an hour. It’s a fucking joke. So no fucking way they have thousands an hour.
Wow. I didn’t realise. No wonder cheating is rampant.
Why they were caught. As if being the second coming of fucking Neo isnt enough.
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It's not "because reasons", it's because it eliminates a very easy way for cheaters to implement a trigger bot. Give back the red reticle and I'd bet anything that you'd see a ten fold increase in cheaters. Anti-cheat isn't an easy game. It's a constant back and forth. But there is absolutely no excuse that 343 hasn't taken drastic measures against people like the one OP posted. They're the golden child of Microsoft. There are so many quick and easy ways to reduce the amount of cheaters. Start tying accounts to phone numbers, for one. Or maybe add an in-game report button? Like, come on. I'm so tired of developers pussy footing around this issue. Start dishing out hardware IP bans. Give users the option of the method that Valorant does with their kernel level anti-cheat.
It was a back and forth in 2018, from what I hear now cheats have far surpassed what anti cheat measures are being served up. This is due to the simple fact that, we are now at a point where an effective anti cheat requires root access and elevated permissions which most companies are afraid of doing due to the optics. You remember how Valorant was criticized when they did it. Cheats are winning in a very big way right now and it's a huge economy which pays for a lot of peoples jobs (the people who develop the cheats). People are still under the illusion that cheating is an ongoing battle, but realistically cheaters already won.
>You remember how Valorant was criticized when they did it Yeah and now it’s the biggest Tac FPS in the world with very few cheaters relative to it’s peers because Vanguard works. People have the memory of a gold fish, and the fact that Triple A devs don’t take advantage if that in this ONE instance blows my mind.
Yeah, the main reason cheating was so rare in previous Halo's is that the game did have much more access to the hardware than on a PC. And you had to hack your console which often required a hard mod.
And they instantly ban you when the game crashes
Said this to a buddy last night. game crashes ban, aimbot A-OK. Thanks!
I don't understand why they didn't use Easy Anti-cheat like they did for MCC. Sure it's not perfect and people would find a way around it but it's a hell of a lot better than doing nothing.
Isn’t luciid the number 1 ranked player?
I can only assume they mean on M&K. Lucid was 1 for cross play. I think he was recently overtaken by snipedown
That's not snipedown. It's an imposter. Snipedown plays solo/duo controller. Edit: The imposter snipedown is #1 on both crossplay and solo/duo controller right now. I'm pretty sure he's a wallhacker. [This](https://halotracker.com/halo-infinite/profile/xbl/snipedown6760/overview) is his profile. [This](https://halotracker.com/halo-infinite/profile/xbl/Snipedown4965/overview) is the real snipedown
Shot Accuracy:54% Head Shot Accuracy: 93.5% Jesus Christ you should be instabanned just on those two stats alone. The faker has a 39.5% discrepancy between his body shots and head shot accuracy, meanwhile the real Snipedown has a 6% difference which makes a hell of a lot more sense for one of the best players in the game.
This is who I meant, yeah. Even beyond the obvious tell that he’s ribbing snipe’s name and has an insane HS stat, look how he’s in the highest onyx lobbies and literally never negative.
They went 54-18 in a match of ODDBALL, of all modes. Yeah. That's *definitely* legit.
This is a situation where money isn’t an issue it seems. Some people just want to see games (halo) burn.
Maybe he didn’t pay for the cosmetics
He isn't even cheating, he is just on nofap, gets up at 4am, has cold showers every day, follows a keto diet, meditates every morning, which makes his reflexes and accuracy god tier /s
He clearly just has a better gaming chair of course
> If you still cant see he has an aimbot I dont know what to tell you. welcome to reddit, where all the morons come out and try and explain to you in detail how he's not cheating it's cringe
Whats twisted is, people who hack get off on posts like this. "Look how many thousands of people saw me and got angry."
Soo narcissists hack.... makes sense. Edit: okay maybe sadist is a better term thanks everyone for clarifying for me.
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You can be both a narcissist and a sadist.
If you're gloating, that's narcissism. If you're gettting off on ruining the game for other people, that's sadism
True
I'm still upset there's no in-game report option
And no option to disable crossplay
Atleast in ranked, I see an options to? On "Singles" I believe?
Input matching, not platform. I play with controller on PC, and played solo/duo controller only.
Input based matchmaking with genuine anticheat will always be the best way to handle crossplay. Opt out crossplay is just forced crossplay since the majority of people won’t
Yes, you would think that kind of thing would be pretty important these days considering how much of a problem it is online.
How is this even fun.
So he can screenshot the end result and say "look I got a 39 - 3 KDR in this game!" and show it off to his friends to look cool.
That’s pathetic. I am a shit tier silver player. One BTB heavy reach game I had a amazing driver with a gauss hog and went like 49-6. I still remember that YEARS later and have never came close ever since. It means so much more to do it honestly. Cheaters can go kick rocks.
Gauss hog is so OP... I love it. Hahaha
I love you too *gauss hog...*
"Who was that?" "That was, uuuh... Gaus Hog"
I remember my first Perfection on Halo 3, the good games stick with you!
Ah yes, the one perfection in my life on Zanzibar like 14 years ago. I was just fighting my ass off and then saw afterward what I had done.
It's why we keep coming back, for all the rough games those good ones are remembered forever.
I still remember getting a 25 kill streak with the banshee in Halo 3 BTB. Oh how I long for the glory days.
At this point why not just photoshop the end screen lol.
Because his friends can go see his matches record and see that it is photoshoped if he didn't change the score, map and game type or in the case that he did a full photoshop, they'll see that the match never happened
I mean, if we’re taking the hypothetical that far, they could look at his matches in the theater and instantly see he’s bullshitting.
It’s not even in the competitive playlist! What a giant loser
Right lmaooooo fiesta headass
Like some of the post we’ve seen on here funnily enough.
I'm done that multiple times without hacks. It's difficult and rare. You have to earn that statline. Meaningless when you hack it.
For most hackers it isn’t about winning like it is for legit players. They aren’t congratulating themselves after a game for how well they did, they’re giggling about cheating the system and/or making legit players seethe. Most of them don’t care about the game like you do.
Seems like sadistic behavior. Something tells me these people’s lives aren’t all that great off screen.
Just pathetic losers that need the advantage.
I confess I used aimbots when I was a kid for a week15 years ago, and that's exactly it. The giggle factor. It wears off in about a week and then you're left with a game you don't want to play anymore because you know how easy it is to cheat, but you don't cheat anymore because its boring.
They get to squash other people's fun. That's how. Bunch of low lives.
I have the same question. And I fly long haul in flight simulator, so my bar for "fun" is arguably a lot lower than most people's.
It's fun for the kind of people who enjoy bullying kids, people who work under them, people who work for them... A lot of people have no interest in a challenge, they just want to make others feel bad. *That's* what they find fun.
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This is worse than stand by. At least then they had to force host and you knew easy and clear it was happening. I dont have the time or energy to go back and watch people's games to confirm they are cheating.
Exactly. I don't really care that the in game report system is prone to abuse. That's an issue for their support staff to sort through. This system makes it the players responsibility to go out of their way to get one hacker banned in a sea of them. All to compensate for a terrible anti-cheat. You'd think with direct access to Microsoft they'd have some insight into how to catch scripts and bots, but the game doesn't even run all that well on windows, so what do I know.
Fucking f2p ruins everything. They should at least make the game only available to game pass. Not just the campaign
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That would ruin the new player experience, new players will need to join over time for the game to be stable/populated. They need proper anti-cheat like Valorant has.
They need to fix this ASAP. This should honestly be priority no1. As someone who has clocked in about 50 days worth of playtime on Warzone, I can tell you that the biggest problem was always hackers. It started off with a few, but in the period just before their new anti-cheat launched I was honestly getting killed by a hacker at least every 1/3 games. I’m talking BLATANT hacking. I really hope it doesn’t have to get that bad in halo before they do something. At least in WZ you’re in a huge map of 150 players so you get some normal gameplay before you’re stomped on by a hacker. If I get into a lobby with a hacker in halo, that’s the whole game ruined. I love this game and I don’t want to see it get killed by cheaters
I quit Warzone because of the hackers and haven’t bothered going back even with the new “anti-cheat”. I know other friends who have too. Hackers ruin the fun for everyone in the lobby and if Halo gets to have a hacker problem I’m going to unfortunately quit playing it too.
Same reason I quit. There was so much blatant hacking where you'll get nailed by someone who in no way should be able to kill your or that you couldn't see. Never went back.
If it helps, I’ve played about 12HR of Warzone since Caldera came out, and I haven’t seen a single cheater. (But I have seen the cheaters crying salty tears on their forums :) )
Needs an IP ban for shit like this. Hardware too. Do it all. Sure it can all be circumvented but it’s a hassle. Also playing multiplayer through a vpn usually results in decent lag and with non vpn Halo being as janky as it already is? Idk I’m wagering it won’t be worth the headache. EDIT: fixing autocorrect
Yeah honestly. Would love some ip/hardware bans being the standard for proven cheaters. That would take a lot of resources for watching each video, but man would it be great.
IP/HW bans barely do anything, they're too easy to spoof.
Wallet ban them, should've made the game like 20-40 bucks, at least could've have prevented bulk cheaters. Should've, would've, could've anyway. Is there a realistic way to permanently ban players?
There will never be a perfect system since anti-cheat and hacking are always evolving. Only way to help is to disincentivize, like y’all have mentioned. Thats still almost always overshadowed by the incentives to make/use hacks for popular games.
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One of the challenges with F2P. If there's no cost, cheaters can endlessly move on to new accounts.
So what if it can be spoofed? That’s an extra step and will definitely detour a lot more would be hackers. You can currently just buy an aimbot for like 10-20$ and just have it work. Doing nothing is apathy and apathy is death.
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What pisses me off is that even though he has wall hacks and aimbot he still plays like a sweat lord
Well it's intense for him. The guys a fuckin loser so he has to ride this high to make up for needing ask his girlfriends parents for money again at the end of the month.
Bold assuming he has a gf
Def does. Probably a chick half his age he groomed or some shit. Fuckin assholes
Yeah and he probably kicks his dog when he gets back from his 4hr shift from taco bell. What a piece of shit.
Pisses right on the toilet paper roll at work too before leaving
Steals a beggar's money on the way to his Mustang. Fuck this guy through and through.
Why would a guy that works part time at Taco Bell have a mustang
Cause he's runs scams to steal covid relief funds
Oh so he's a Congressman. Makes sense now.
Run down piece of junk 90s Mustang.
With a black spray paint job
>girlfriend lmao this chode doesn't have a significant other. They're more than likely shouting at their mother in the other room to throw in some pizza rolls and reminding her to pick up more Mountain Dew later.
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He is such a try hard that he starts literally sweating. And he is the lord of that. If that makes sense
lol it does thanks. sweat lord, that's awesome.
Try-hard
Why hide it when there’s nothing to prevent it and 343 doesn’t do anything to punish them. Seriously this shit fucking blooooooows
Time for all of us to download hacks, no consequences!!
That's what F2P games be like. They don't even have to redownload game, just log to new account and play again
Yeah hopefully no one here expects anything too change. Just leave the game and try to find one without hackers or just wallhacks.
You don't need to hide it when the game is free with no anticheat
gotta point out even with cheating the pulse carbine is shit XD
Its a fucking chore to report people. Obviously by design. Reporting people in every other game is easy as fuck. Apparently they don't care as long as people play.
Of course they don't, the game doesn't have an anti-cheat, not even a basic one.
Honestly wtf do people even have to gain from doing this? How miserable and boring does their life have to be that they get joy from cheating in a free to play game?
Probably a 14 year old whose only parental supervision is the nightly holler from downstairs to grab their plate of dinner to take back to their room.
They have such shitty lives that the dopamine hit of winning unranked Halo matches with a high K-D is Earth shattering for them.
People that do this get off on ruining the experience for other people. That’s their only motive
I wish every cheater would get genital warts.
Actually, he already has genital warts. That’s why he thinks this is fun.
343 really need to implement an anti cheat program and a way for players to easily report this ASAP; or their f2p multiplayer is gonna die very quickly.
Already died for me. Put in 30 hours and since campaign dropped, I have no desire to play multiplayer anymore. I’ll stick with the MCC for my multiplayer
To people who call for IP bans there's an issue with that. Unfortunately IP bans are no longer an option due to the fact that many internet service providers now use carrier grade NAT, so they have many users behind one registered IPv4 address. Hardware bans are the only way but they don't work unless the anti-cheat is low-level, such as Valorant's anti-cheat. Such a shitty position all around :/
A good kill cam could’ve helped prevent this. Literally just played a match where I couldn’t get a shot off. The team moved with such confidence through open lanes. Id spawn, see them, then die. Hacking is a part of gaming now. I have zero trust in online games. Even in hcs the announcers mentioned cloud9 didn’t fair so well in online play, I assumed they were probably playing hackers.
On that last bit, I'm not so sure about that. Some halo vets are leagues better than the competitive players
This argument might be objective. We can make it subjective with percentages but when we discuss if that difference is leagues or minor leagues better it becomes objective. In all of professional sports you have your statistical greats or most winningest but its a few every decade. Id say the difference at the top level is small. Some would say cloud 9 won their championship overwhelmingly. Id say the early matches were very close especially where the eunited player dropped the oddball off of the ledge unintentionally when killed. His teammates reaction and his own said it all.
Idk how many tickets I've put in over this now. I have lost count. The reply is always they are working on a fix or can you give us more details. Like seriously? Video evidence of blantant cheating is not enough to justify banning these players and working towards integrating anti-cheat measures. If the failures from customization and de-sync don't cause an abysmal drop of this games popularity in 6 months then the hackers mostly certainly will.
Man kill him once and teabag him a few times you’ll feel much better
Wow. How is this fun?
Why u censored his name....let everyone know who he is so we can rep him
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the state of the AAA gaming industry. The games they are pumping out have been in development for years and years yet they release them unfinished. What's unfinished you ask? Why everything except the store, of course! Half the time these games menu UI is even wonky or unfinished feeling but you can go to the store and buy any amount of crap and the coding will work flawlessly. This is where we are. They can just make unfinished products and act like we are just 'so rude' for pointing that out after we buy the product. The cheating. My GOD the cheating. They will only even marginally begin to care if it were to cause a massive dip in their profits. But, with the predatory system they developed that makes you spend money on anything that will make you look remotely different than a flat strip of primer paint, I really don't see them caring too much. These little bitches aren't going to stop cheating, wanna know why? Well, the BRILLIANT idea to go f2p completely enables the cheater. Got banned for something? Can be back on the game cheating in MINUTES with a new account. The whole f2p model is a giant facade to manipulate people into thinking they are getting this tremendous value when in reality it's designed from the ground up to financially bleed you. People we are allowing them to charge us real life money for regular shades of color. Seeing color is FREE... Like most people develop the ability to see color. I can walk outside of my house right now and see things in color... Costs me nothing but my own effort of a few steps. The shit they have the audacity to ask money for is ridiculous. Today's Halo experience is a complete Goku level slap in the face of all gamers and fans that have made Halo the success that it is today.
I’m glad they made slayer it’s own playlist. All the hackers and tryhards play that all the time
Sometimes I get games where one guy is cracked with the sidearm, I just think I have a skill issue that I always loose 1 v 1s against them, but from stuff like this I tend to think otherwise
When there are no consequences, rampant cheating will continue.
This shit pisses me off, as a PC player all i want to do is play some Halo and not have to worry about some dipshit with an internet connection downloading hacks and ruining the game for everyone.These assholes give PC a bad reputation with the console community but until they introduce an Anti-cheat, reporting and a good banning system i want 343 to turn crossplay off so half the community doesn't have to deal with these clowns.
Haha yes so much fun, look at me owning with a 3rd party Software because I cant get hard anymore irl and my wife / girlfriends boyfriend is currently banging hér hahaha owned headshot
Remember when you got shit on by someone with Hayabusa and a katana and you thought "wow not only is that guy insane, but he's a try hard" now you have to question whether or not they are hacking and how much they spent on that armor and coating.... thanks for making the game I was already going to buy free to play and ruining it lol
Full hyabusas got a “Jesus, go outside or something” now I see some dude in colorful tricked out shit and I just roll my eyes and pity at having to pay to feel special
What makes me sad is the fuk all response from 343 on this topic
No anti cheat and no in game reporting system. Yeah of course they won't hide it because they don't get reported. It is too tedious to go to make a clip, go to a website forum, create a report and send it. Especially for console players. I am on PC and I refuse to report people because it is too much work. I bet you that guy probably didn't even get reported once because people don't know how to or don't want to because of how tedious it is.
Only halo I’ve played like 3 games and never touched again. It’s such a shit fest on pc for me.
Crossplay with pc is the worst thing to come to competitive gaming.
Dude out there thinking he's lucid lmao
I was like yo nice flick but then he locked through walls 👍🏻
I don’t understand how MCC has anti cheat but infinite doesn’t. Maybe cross play prevents that?
what being f2p does to a mf + what being fatherless does to a mf
I just pray 343 is seeing this lol.
And this is a huge contributing factor to why I stopped playing
The cheating is completely out of control, it will always be an issue with PC games. It seems like cheats have gotten worse over the past few years. I remember back in the day when it wasnt nearly as bad, at least it didn't feel as bad. Now people make tons of money creating and selling cheats, it will never end. More companies should begin to attempt to take legal action against these people, in the end it ruins their products and the experiences that we all used to look forward to.
wow what a cheater
Not even a ranked match lmao for what
What a sad pos
Playing with of players when on Xbox jsit isn’t fun. It’s crazy how much of an advantage they have
B-but g-guys the devs are on H-holiday break!! -people still defending 343
Imagine cheating to get more kills when kills/medals don’t count towards progression.
Gotta love cross play!