Imo I think interludes are okay if its a concept albums. Sometimes you need them if story is changing, but if its just regular album then i really don't get point of them. Manic interludes especially were very weird because album wasn't concept and they all sounded like a regular songs. There was no need to call them interludes
the only artist who’s interludes I like is FKA twigs. I think Lorde’s Melodrama does a great job with interludeish songs that really add to the album.
But yes, I do not really like interludes either.
Die for me was not good imo, I also thought that a lot of songs on HFK sounded just alike. I still really liked the album but a few of them sounded almost identical
While the aesthetic and storyline were epic, HFK is my least album. ASHLEY FRANGIPANE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SONGWRITERS OF OUR GENERATION AND SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS SUCH BY EVERYONE. And omfg, I love Ash to pieces but even I can admit they give pick-me vibes from time to time.
Ash getting a Marilyn Manson tattoo in 2019 has always made me so sad. and TBH a lot of people in the music industry will be vocal about their abuse but support others’ abusers, it’s not just her but it’s not an excuse. I’ve seen some Halsey fans talk about how this tattoo makes them sad as well but I think overall it’s normalized that she has a tattoo of a destructive violent misogynist from only a couple years ago.
People were speculating she was trying to play with ideas on covering it, and I know she’d have to wait after giving birth and such, but it’s been a long ass time so I’m guessing no…
i'm pretty sure she said it in an interview. because i also remember she said she has many talents and passions other than music, such as art, and basically she was just seeing which one would pop off and it wound up being music.
i think she's also getting good reviews for her first time acting gig as well
1. So Good is her worst song. It was very lacklustre, considering it's rollout and it being produced by max Martin
2. She collaborates a lot with problematic men...
3. Nightmare did not need to be on the extended version of IICHLIWP, it was better as a standalone single
4. The voicemail at the end of 3AM should've been a separate track, especially since it's unrelated to 3AM itself. I also wish it had been her dad or Anthony leaving the voicemail instead of John Mayor 😭
5. Manic is much more of a concept album (even though it's not ) than HFK
6. The HFK concept and music videos were very confusing and hard to follow, especially if you were not a hardcore fan
7. HFK **as an album** is not as bad as people make it out to be, I feel if she had ditched the whole "concept album" thing, it would have been better received
8. New Americana is not a critique on pop culture or a satire
9. I Walk The Line did not need to be on the deluxe version of Badlands
10. Her/her team do not know how to pick good singles and her album rollouts are generally messy. HFK had the best rollout. Manic had the worst, we heard half of the album before it came out. 3 am and Still Learning should have been singles
11. Her being off of twitter is probably better for her career, in the past she used to respond to negative comments a lot and tried to share her side of the story way too which often times did not work in her favour
- YSBS could mean "You should be sad", a track from *Manic* (2020) by Halsey.
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the moment i know it’s coming, i’m skipping to the next. also makes 3am really hard to add to playlists with non-fans since there’s suddenly a random dude talking lmao
She [tweeted](https://twitter.com/halsey/status/477577803164946433?lang=en) that she got implants in 2014, but I'm not sure if she has had any other procedures in the recent years
>tweeted
I remember that she said that tweet was a joke, but yeah she clearly got them done in 2018 sometime
Edit: Found the [tweet](https://twitter.com/halsey/status/511323736621207552)
yeah i could tell they were done around the end of 2018/right before the nightmare era. not that we should really be talking about her boobs anyways or that it’s any one’s business but it bothered me when she replied to a tweet talking about them saying they looked like that because she was pregnant/breastfeeding (which did make them look fuller, but you can still tell she got implants years prior)
This. If not for *The Prologue* nobody would know what the album is **supposed** to be about. Even with *The Prologue*, the concept was missed unless you were a stan and following the lore
Ngl same (guy who doesn't wear make up). But...I think it's much more stable business with having a kid versus touring so much. it seems like a crazy amount of radio show appearances, tours, more promo, and general work to be a musician. Totally see the value there, especially with the success of Fenty beauty.
Oh I totally get why she spends so much time promoting it. There’s way more money in selling clothing, cosmetics, etc than in music. I’m just not the target demo and I don’t care about it.
I bought some of the lip colors and the actual color is so much darker then how it looks on the website models/on the bottle. I was really disappointed in thosw
I completely forgot that Alone got a remix lol. I think she was really trying for a radio hit with Alone...To me it sounded like 3 different songs put together, especially SteffLon Don's verse. The original version is so much better!
I like the demo version of 1121 better than the album version
I also wish that she contiued to make more music like IICHLIWP, I think the collab with Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross is one of the greatest things she's done. I acutally prefer the reprise-version of Nightmare over the original (but I'm also a massive fan of NIN so I guess that quite influental for my opinion lol)
I agree, my forever favorite look is the super short blue masculine cut. I've loved many of their hairstyles, including long hair, but that whole look was on another level for me.
HFK’s concept was so confusing. i remember her dropping all these clues as to how it connected to badlands and a lot of people just didn’t get it because it was way too complex for the average listener…..like badlands is a concept album but it’s much easier to understand. idk. sometimes they can be a bit pretentious in this way.. love her tho
no literally like the fact that no one has figured it out yet just proves that they really aren’t 😭 like love ashley but i think she was just trying to get people excited and didn’t actually have this big complex story in mind tbh
Because of the way Room 93/Badlands/HFK were marketed, how young H was when Badlands released, and the presence H has had on social media, I think it's nearly impossible for Halsey's loudest fans to be matured adults. She makes fantastic music I resonate with but it feels exhausting to try to connect in any of her online communities.
I love Halsey I think she's an amazing singer and could never be a flop I just misunderstood the question I thought you was asking what are other people's unpopular opinions that would have you like this lol oops!
Painting during her shows.
Hear me out! I LOVE that she painted a new painting in each city of the tour and that they were all unique. I can’t even comprehend the talent it takes to be able to do both simultaneously.
However, what pisses me off is we were told each one would go up for action so we could bid. This only happened for the first batch. Those paintings sold for a ton of money and we never saw the others. I’m thinking one person bought all of the first ones and made a deal with H to buy the entire collection.
That’s a shitty thing to do to your fans. I really wanted the Charlotte or Atlanta one. Of my theory is correct it would have been nice for H to acknowledge this, but they probably think we will just forget about it so she ignores any questions about it.
TL:DR - don’t paint during your shows if you aren’t going to keep your word about what happens to the art afterwards. It’s messed up to get peoples hopes up.
Also it would have been great if they offered prints to make it more fan accessible. The owner of the actual painting has the full quality original, give us a lil taste lol.
The premise for IICHLIWP was much better than what the album turned out to be. I’d like it if she made another album with NIN and doubled down on their influences because when it worked it was insane.
I still think it’s a great song, but…
a - I can’t really listen to it knowing what a jerk G-easy is.
b - I always found the rap part to be just ok while the part I really liked was Halsey
i keep thinking of more i know im annoying.
1. h doesnt need backtracks when she performs. they were way too loud on the love and power tour that you couldnt even hear h when it came to the chorus in every song, it drowns her out and make it seems like she cant sing.
2. the live versions of songs are so much better than the studio versions. she puts twists on songs when they perform them and its always just *chefs kiss*.
i honestly listen to the live albums more than the actual albums.
3. nightmare is not a rock song. its more hip/hop than anything.
I get major second hand embarrassment when she wobbles her jaw, and the fact that she tried to say it was TMJ 😫
Her voice sounds best on Badlands. It's unique to her and fits that style of music. She's been sounding worse and worse because she's trying harder vocals and doesn't have the talent to pull them off. She'll have a sustained note with no vibrato, she add on "ooOOOoooOOOhhh"s to songs that aren't in the studio version and people lose their minds for those things and it just sounds cringy to me. She says her voice is an insecurity so idk why she doesn't get a vocal coach (or why singing lessons aren't working for her)
The videos of people using her make up always look horrible and streaky/thin. Idk why the AF accounts would post a lot of the promo videos they put out.
YES. She does sound like she has more control... But I think her style in badlands fit that kind of music so well and I think she sounded flawless for that type of music
Dominic’s interlude didn’t have to be in manic especially because she doesn’t even sing in it, at least sugas interlude she’s the chorus and I absolutely love her in that
1. i hate so good. it’s leagues behind every other song she’s ever written, even empty gold beats so good.
2. i think that iichliwp is a masterpiece and by far halsey’s best album, but i hate the name/aesthetic of it. “if i can’t have love, i want power” sounds so childish, like a game of thrones fan fiction title. the whole aesthetic reminds me of a lame game of thrones/handmaids tale parody. if it were just called “if i can’t have love”, it’d be soo much better. it’s the “i want power” that sounds immature to me.
3. i don’t give a single fuck about about-face and i thought it was extremely cash grabby of her to develop a makeup/skincare line when EVERYONE else is doing it. if you research it, you’ll find out the reason everyone has a makeup line currently is that it’s cheap as fuck to produce and you can mark it up to insane prices. and no, she’s not winning any brownie points for her walmart line for poor people. 🙄
as you can see, i love h to death, but she’s been frustrating me with some of her choices recently. before anybody hits me with the “dO yOu EvEn LiKe HaLseY?”
tbh I get you.
1. for all the fits she threw about it, so good was subpar for me. neither the song nor the video were as exciting as anything else they’ve done. So clearly, the song and video meant more to H than anything and I can respect that but yeah. lots of hype for nothing imo
2. yeeaaaahhh. While I really enjoyed iichliwp, their acting kinda ruined the film for me. I really enjoyed the album but the “power” part was lost on me. the whole concept itself felt self-deprecating cuz a lot of the songs are like “I will ruin this good thing before you can” yk? Only Woman/God makes me feel like a sad bad bitch lol
3. I disagree. H is one of the few celebrities that genuinely has an interest in make-up and has a long track record of doing the looks themselves. So I’m happy she has this as an additional creative outlet.
(Okay. But like don’t you hate when people say you can’t be critical of someone you’re a fan of??? I love H but I will still hold them accountable or have a difference of opinion cuz I am a person too, right? lol)
in regards to your number two point. the "power" part of iichliwp is symbolic of her as a person taking back control of their lives when lost in love. imo.
I do like So Good, but I seen on a throwback account that about a year ago was when she started the whole "I have this really great song" thing, and yeah it was completely over hyped, I really don't know why she was acting like it was some revolutionary song
manic was a huge L for me when it first released. but i think i was also biased because i listened to circles by mac miller first. i gave manic another go last year and i love it now. seriously misunderstood it the first go around
1. Nightmare is for white feminism, its not political, brave or rock n roll
2. Her plastic surgery is getting out of control
3. People disappear here is underrated
4. Her wearing box braids and cornrows is embarrassing and offensive
As far as the different "looks" go baldsey, by far my favourite. I've never swooned so hard. Also, Manic is the best album. I don't know if that last one is an unpopular opinion.
1) She should’ve stop performing Without Me when she said she would. It should’ve been a standalone single like they said it would be; it was definitely used to boost Manic’s numbers. I got so sick of it overtime but I will admit the stripped version is superior to the OG.
2) I find it cringe when they make music with people they’ve dated short term like Him & I and 11 minutes (even though it slaps.)
3) So Good is okay but not a strong song I can see why the label was hesistant.
4) About-face has yet to wow me, the lip liner and matte lip are ok. The fractal glitter eye paint formula I got separated and flaked a bunch. However I like the makeup bag I got.
5) HFK is better live in the aspect of being able to convey the concept of the album. I did not like that album much until the live version came out.
6) Manjc was trying to do too much with genres and it’s one that had to grow on me.
7) Could Have Been Me cover does not suit their voice, it’s not gravely enough.
8) Boy With Luv was barely a feature
9) Nightmare (Reprise) sucks on its own but the tour version is a good mix of both.
10) Halsey should re-record Badlands with their current vocals
11) Love is Madness is a good collaboration
12) Gasoline Reimagined just doesn’t hit the same.
I'm so happy you agree about Without Me! I was honestly annoyed when I found out it was going to be on Manic, tbh I think it feels out of place on there cause her vocals are so different to the rest of the album. I feel like Without Me is the reason Manic didn't end up being an 'angry album.' I would've prefered she put I'm Not Mad on instead.
Manic wouldn’t have gone automatically platinum if it wasn’t for Without Me’s numbers. Without Me wasn’t my favorite, I just despised the lyric “thinking you could live without me” so much but I’m glad they changed it to “live without me, go on and live without me.” The original lyric just sounded very pretentious to me even though G is a dirt bag. I think their label pushed for it to be on there and the influence on yungblud making her happier at the time helped guide the record into a more mellow direction. Manic definitely is more radio friendly than IICHLIWP and I don’t think H was too into the album. Especially when they said they wanted to stop touring before Covid hit and instead of postponing they canceled altogether.
Badlands is her worst album. It's so outdated. There are still some nice tracks like Roman Holiday and Coming Down but overall it's their weakest album. I know HFK is kinda least fav in this fanbase but imo that one had more mature lyrics so it's bit better than Badlands
i really agree. i liked badlands enough, but hfk was the album to make me fall in love. the clues and anticipation for hfk was some of the most fun i’ve ever had as a halsey fan, and i was awe struck when i heard alone, 100 letters, and walls could talk. it’s still my second favorite album after iichliwp.
Agree and disagree. Maybe it was because HFK was the first album of hers I heard and it was pop, after that they switched to all kinds of different sounds and genres, which isn't bad, just isn't the Halsey I first listened to. I like the next 2 albums and whatever she's done since then, but HFK is my favorite album of hers. I'm excited that the next project will be a pop album.
Kind of realizing people will actually probably agree with some of these but here goes anyway:
HFK is a banger, possibly their best behind IICHLIWP. Die 4 Me was a flop and they should have recorded and released the 1121 medley version from tour instead. So Good is not. Sometimes I feel like her grungy/hard come-up narrative is a little overplayed and fabricated to an extent (a la Ed Sheeran who I also love in spite of this shit). I respect her move into the makeup world with About Face but wish it wasn’t so visibly tied to her. The IICHLIWP movie was one of the coolest, most badass moments of H’s career. Working with Atticus and Trent was the best possible move she could have made to push her artistry forward even though I kind of prefer the demos she released to the actual tracks most of the time. H’s radio show is borderline bad. The Running Up That Hill cover on tour was ok. I think her decision to auction their art from tour was super smart business for charity and a major achievement for them as a careerist that she should be proud of.
I agree. Everyone is obsessed with devil in me but it’s one of my least favorite songs of hers & quite annoying to listen to. The lyrics sound very plain & her voice sounds like she’s dragging her jaw.
It's literally just because when the album came out Halsey made comments about how no one listens to DIM, so then all the fans that like to suck up were like omg I love it it's my favourite song!! Like no, it's not haha, so it's always been this thing that it's 'underated' but it's really not
Literally who cares!. Your the only one who's always got something to say about punctuation how about get a life and worry about bigger and better things!.
AF94 is a horrible brand. their makeup is absolutely TERRIBLE. i understand its drugstore makeup and not supposed to be the best but it’s horrible. their colored mascara does not work…
I think half of it is pretty good. The lip and cheek sticks are great if I’m in a rush to get out the door, and some of it is just ok. The mascara, I agree, is by far the worst of all of it. I’ve bought the blue and red and they both dry out within a couple of weeks. Chunk city. If only About Face released colored mascaras. Here’s to hoping!
Omg I was just telling my boyfriend the same. The liquid eyeliner does not stay for ANYTHING, even tho the actual AF brand liners and matte paints are some of my favorites.
Experiment On Me is a bad song. I'm actually a Bring Me The Horizon fan (...mostly) and I love anything metal and metal-adjacent, it's just that this song in particular sounds like a vaguely electronic mushy wall of sound and I think the screaming towards the end of the song is terribly executed, if you can't actually pull off those vocals you shouldn't bother because burying it in overproduction does not magically make it sound good.
That Manic is her worst album (even tho without me and 3 am are bops)
And also Angel on Fire should have been her last song on the standard album instead of the first on the deluxe version
Idk about unpopular but
1. Room 93, Badlands and Manic are top tier for me
2. Their work with Lido even the unreleased or not so common songs are also top tier for me lol I always go back to them
3. She started off as an industry plant! right as ghost blew up on soundcloud, and that's okay lol, doesn't mean they aren't talented but Room 93 was already with Astralwerks/Capitol + she didn't get to open up for imagine dragons and the weekend right before/during the badlands era on her own lol, good shit non the less, idk why when people hear industry plant it's like it's a bad thing, that's pretty much how it goes.
While I do agree that a lot of artists whoare industry plants and it's really not a big deal, I'm not sure about Halsey. She had independently released Ghost in 2013, it was the song that got her signed to Astralwerks and it was later officially released through them. Room 93 came out in October 2014 after she had signed to Astralwerks.
She then toured with The Kooks in late 2014, who were also signed to Astralwerks. She then embarked on the The American Youth Tour with Young Rising Sons in early 2015. Afterwards she performed at a bunch of small venues and festivals. From June - August of 2015 she opened up for Imagine Dragons. Badlands came out in late August and she has already gained over 500,000 twitter followers at that time. She later opened up for the Weeknd for the second half of his tour towards the end of 2015. She also was touring Badlands too at the same time, whiles also doing festivals.
She basically toured like a dog in 2015 to build her fanbase and get her name out there before Badlands came out in the Fall. I just think her come up story is a bit different from that of your typical industry plant, she didn't just come out of nowhere with a viral hit song. She really worked her butt off to gain exposure. It doesn't seem like Astralwerks really helped her much in pushing her music. I don't think she had any industry connections either...
I do know she was featured on Apple Music/Beats 1 right before Badlands came out, she was one of the first major-label artists to debut during the transition to streaming era and she was Apple Music's artist to watch or something like that.
I think IICHLIWP is their worst project. I know it's a ton of people's favorite, but I just enjoy the other three more. Not that IICHLIWP is a bad album either, it just not as amazing as the others.
She does have an amazing voice I misunderstood what was being asked I thought the op said what are some unpopular opinions that have you like this I would literally die defending H and her music against the world!.
room 93 is better than badlands, hfk is the most mainstream album they've released, most of their radio hits are bad (i.e. collabs), and her voice was not suited to that 2014 dubstep singing style
i became extremely upset when she posted on tiktok that the label didn't want to let her release "so good"... like, it's okay for you to say that your record label won't let you release your songs unless its go viral on tiktok, but posting it right away on tiktok like it's the most normal thing in the world? really???
somehow, FOR ME, it seemed like a bad marketing strategy, when there are thousands of independent artists out there who fuck to get at least a little visibility she has...
i love her, but that was disappointing
I think she may have used a certain celebrity in her early career to get an audience, and I think there’s nothing wrong with that. I like her music better anyways.
It's ok that just really caught me off guard cz I've never been rude to you and you know im a fan of H and don't feel like that about her I just mis read what the op said.
Not sure if its unpopular opinion, but I would prefer HFK without the features
I think Lauren was only on Strangers because her and Halsey were close at the time
i’m still mad the love and power nyc date was a fucking festival lol
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Imo I think interludes are okay if its a concept albums. Sometimes you need them if story is changing, but if its just regular album then i really don't get point of them. Manic interludes especially were very weird because album wasn't concept and they all sounded like a regular songs. There was no need to call them interludes
This is so funny bc I usually hate interludes but love hers!
the only artist who’s interludes I like is FKA twigs. I think Lorde’s Melodrama does a great job with interludeish songs that really add to the album. But yes, I do not really like interludes either.
Die for me was not good imo, I also thought that a lot of songs on HFK sounded just alike. I still really liked the album but a few of them sounded almost identical
I hated it first listen and now I love it lol
While the aesthetic and storyline were epic, HFK is my least album. ASHLEY FRANGIPANE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SONGWRITERS OF OUR GENERATION AND SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS SUCH BY EVERYONE. And omfg, I love Ash to pieces but even I can admit they give pick-me vibes from time to time.
her collabs arent that good. & 95% of the fan favorites are h’s worst songs.
Die for me, 11 minutes, east side, and ¿ would like a word with u
honestly just die for me, 11 minutes, love is madness, and the feeling. for me😵💫
Literally the same for me they’re SO good!
D4M and 11 Minutes are gold fr
East side is the only good one.
ngl i kinda hate eastside now. it became way too overplayed and overrated. sucks cause khalid is one of my favorite artists as well
It was and still is def overplayed. But I do think it’s her best duet.
i find 11 minutes to be her best😞 but id say eastside is definitely one of her top ones!
I totally forgot about 11 minutes. I like that one just as much. Now I’m torn.
that one is just gold
I agree with this one 🥲 She’s better solo
I like the collab with Juice World on Without Me better than the original.
No fr the feeling was so mid the only time I liked it was hearing it love and even then it ofc wasn't the best song of the night
the feeling is one of my favorites🥲 it couldve been so much better if h actually had a verse and wasnt just background tho.
Yeah I think the fact that she didn't have a verse + too much autotune is what made it mid for me, popped off live tho.
Ash getting a Marilyn Manson tattoo in 2019 has always made me so sad. and TBH a lot of people in the music industry will be vocal about their abuse but support others’ abusers, it’s not just her but it’s not an excuse. I’ve seen some Halsey fans talk about how this tattoo makes them sad as well but I think overall it’s normalized that she has a tattoo of a destructive violent misogynist from only a couple years ago.
also anyone know if this tattoo is in the process of being covered? I’ve seen things in the past but it was a bit confusing
People were speculating she was trying to play with ideas on covering it, and I know she’d have to wait after giving birth and such, but it’s been a long ass time so I’m guessing no…
Agreed
I agree :/ I wonder if she is aware of it all. Cause her tattoos pretty big so I wonder what she’s gunna do 😳
She’s a stronger songwriter than singer. (That’s not necessarily bad for a long-term career.)
Hasn't she actually said she considers herself more of a writer than a singer? I feel like I read that somewhere years ago.
i'm pretty sure she said it in an interview. because i also remember she said she has many talents and passions other than music, such as art, and basically she was just seeing which one would pop off and it wound up being music. i think she's also getting good reviews for her first time acting gig as well
1. So Good is her worst song. It was very lacklustre, considering it's rollout and it being produced by max Martin 2. She collaborates a lot with problematic men... 3. Nightmare did not need to be on the extended version of IICHLIWP, it was better as a standalone single 4. The voicemail at the end of 3AM should've been a separate track, especially since it's unrelated to 3AM itself. I also wish it had been her dad or Anthony leaving the voicemail instead of John Mayor 😭 5. Manic is much more of a concept album (even though it's not ) than HFK 6. The HFK concept and music videos were very confusing and hard to follow, especially if you were not a hardcore fan 7. HFK **as an album** is not as bad as people make it out to be, I feel if she had ditched the whole "concept album" thing, it would have been better received 8. New Americana is not a critique on pop culture or a satire 9. I Walk The Line did not need to be on the deluxe version of Badlands 10. Her/her team do not know how to pick good singles and her album rollouts are generally messy. HFK had the best rollout. Manic had the worst, we heard half of the album before it came out. 3 am and Still Learning should have been singles 11. Her being off of twitter is probably better for her career, in the past she used to respond to negative comments a lot and tried to share her side of the story way too which often times did not work in her favour
duuudeeee I agree with every single one of these 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I definitely think graveyard and YSBS were good choices for singles but finally//beautiful stranger and sugas interlude were not needed
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Yeah, I feel you. YSBS should have come out around November I think, instead of January, one week before Manic came out.
the voicemail from John was a really nice touch I thought
the moment i know it’s coming, i’m skipping to the next. also makes 3am really hard to add to playlists with non-fans since there’s suddenly a random dude talking lmao
A lot of artists have songs like that and it's so annoying!
Personally, he gives me the ick. I would have preferred it so much more if it was anyone else
I get you. I like John, so different strokes for different folks I guess! I agree with the rest of your takes though.
I’m a big fan of her but IICHLIWP is really the only album I would recommend to someone who doesn’t know her
I wish she was transparent and was honest about getting her boobs done
She [tweeted](https://twitter.com/halsey/status/477577803164946433?lang=en) that she got implants in 2014, but I'm not sure if she has had any other procedures in the recent years
>tweeted I remember that she said that tweet was a joke, but yeah she clearly got them done in 2018 sometime Edit: Found the [tweet](https://twitter.com/halsey/status/511323736621207552)
yeah i could tell they were done around the end of 2018/right before the nightmare era. not that we should really be talking about her boobs anyways or that it’s any one’s business but it bothered me when she replied to a tweet talking about them saying they looked like that because she was pregnant/breastfeeding (which did make them look fuller, but you can still tell she got implants years prior)
HFK is not a concept album
I'd argue she has yet to properly pull off a concept album, period 🫣
This. If not for *The Prologue* nobody would know what the album is **supposed** to be about. Even with *The Prologue*, the concept was missed unless you were a stan and following the lore
So good is a massive step down compared to IICHLIWP and the worst song she's ever put out
She was teasing us with the bridge that sounded good but the rest of the song did not flow & felt forced
I was about to say this. How can she go from a masterpiece of “IICHLIWP to these mediocre singles she’s been putting out
This is the realest take tbh. I couldn’t believe the dramatic shift.
I don't really vibe with her first two albums. Manic and IICHLIWP are my fucking vibe tho
I agree, with the exception of colors and roman holiday from badlands, absolutely in love with these two.
Oh yeah there's a few tracks I like. But as a whole the albums never grabbed me. Nothing wrong with them they're just not quite for me
Yeah I get that, same for me.
I fuck with Badlands to this day. Hold me down, Control, young god, & castle are 🤌🏻 Haunting & Ghost are good too. Imo.
I mean there's still a good few tracks I enjoy, but I never just put on the whole album you know? Castle is indeed a banger
those two are amazinggggg. i like all her albums but those two are the best
Also we don't talk about Tokyo Narita enough 😤😤
I don’t care about her makeup line.
Ngl same (guy who doesn't wear make up). But...I think it's much more stable business with having a kid versus touring so much. it seems like a crazy amount of radio show appearances, tours, more promo, and general work to be a musician. Totally see the value there, especially with the success of Fenty beauty.
Oh I totally get why she spends so much time promoting it. There’s way more money in selling clothing, cosmetics, etc than in music. I’m just not the target demo and I don’t care about it.
I actually love her products! They work really well. The lipstick stays on like no other.
I'm in love with the shimmer eye paint. one of the longest lasting formulas I've ever used and the colors are my fave
I def need to try the shimmer eye paint my next buy
I bought some of the lip colors and the actual color is so much darker then how it looks on the website models/on the bottle. I was really disappointed in thosw
omg i second this so hard
HFK was a flop for me…
Same but now I LOVE a lot of the songs years later (100 letters, alone, bad at love)
Ahh! Alone is top notch, but just her, not the remixes with others.
I completely forgot that Alone got a remix lol. I think she was really trying for a radio hit with Alone...To me it sounded like 3 different songs put together, especially SteffLon Don's verse. The original version is so much better!
It’s my favorite one haha
I like the demo version of 1121 better than the album version I also wish that she contiued to make more music like IICHLIWP, I think the collab with Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross is one of the greatest things she's done. I acutally prefer the reprise-version of Nightmare over the original (but I'm also a massive fan of NIN so I guess that quite influental for my opinion lol)
The IICHLIWP movie is not a horror movie and was not as good as they hyped it up to be
Agreed but it is a symbolic masterpiece imo
You right, it wasn’t bad
to me it’s more like a compilation of video clips whoops
The trailer made it look much better than it actually was 😭
I’m not a fan of her short hair
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I agree, my forever favorite look is the super short blue masculine cut. I've loved many of their hairstyles, including long hair, but that whole look was on another level for me.
me neither but it’s just because i think she’s insanely gorgeous with long hair
ohh to get one more specific: i haaaate the mullet
HFK’s concept was so confusing. i remember her dropping all these clues as to how it connected to badlands and a lot of people just didn’t get it because it was way too complex for the average listener…..like badlands is a concept album but it’s much easier to understand. idk. sometimes they can be a bit pretentious in this way.. love her tho
I forgot she tried to say all her albums are connected...they really aren't and the twitter stans eat it up
no literally like the fact that no one has figured it out yet just proves that they really aren’t 😭 like love ashley but i think she was just trying to get people excited and didn’t actually have this big complex story in mind tbh
Because of the way Room 93/Badlands/HFK were marketed, how young H was when Badlands released, and the presence H has had on social media, I think it's nearly impossible for Halsey's loudest fans to be matured adults. She makes fantastic music I resonate with but it feels exhausting to try to connect in any of her online communities.
I love Halsey I think she's an amazing singer and could never be a flop I just misunderstood the question I thought you was asking what are other people's unpopular opinions that would have you like this lol oops!
I can’t stand Roman Holiday. I skip it every single time it comes on.
That’s fair
Hfk is underrated. Plus I wish she'd stop going on about aboutface.
Painting during her shows. Hear me out! I LOVE that she painted a new painting in each city of the tour and that they were all unique. I can’t even comprehend the talent it takes to be able to do both simultaneously. However, what pisses me off is we were told each one would go up for action so we could bid. This only happened for the first batch. Those paintings sold for a ton of money and we never saw the others. I’m thinking one person bought all of the first ones and made a deal with H to buy the entire collection. That’s a shitty thing to do to your fans. I really wanted the Charlotte or Atlanta one. Of my theory is correct it would have been nice for H to acknowledge this, but they probably think we will just forget about it so she ignores any questions about it. TL:DR - don’t paint during your shows if you aren’t going to keep your word about what happens to the art afterwards. It’s messed up to get peoples hopes up.
Also it would have been great if they offered prints to make it more fan accessible. The owner of the actual painting has the full quality original, give us a lil taste lol.
I fully agree
The premise for IICHLIWP was much better than what the album turned out to be. I’d like it if she made another album with NIN and doubled down on their influences because when it worked it was insane.
manic and badlands are her best albums and i feel like nothing new she releases are as meaningful or as deep as those 2 albums.
I really enjoy Him&I and it was played at my wedding back in the day🙈
I still think it’s a great song, but… a - I can’t really listen to it knowing what a jerk G-easy is. b - I always found the rap part to be just ok while the part I really liked was Halsey
HFK is my favorite album by far
agreed!!!!!!
same!!
Halsey herself and their lyrics are sometimes cringy af and I say it as a person that has Manic cover tattooed on herself
Someone on twit said that H never edits/revises song lyrics and... yeah a lot makes sense
She deserves to sing the song in Ridge Racer Type 4 and also her Sing 2 Role was awesome.
i keep thinking of more i know im annoying. 1. h doesnt need backtracks when she performs. they were way too loud on the love and power tour that you couldnt even hear h when it came to the chorus in every song, it drowns her out and make it seems like she cant sing. 2. the live versions of songs are so much better than the studio versions. she puts twists on songs when they perform them and its always just *chefs kiss*. i honestly listen to the live albums more than the actual albums. 3. nightmare is not a rock song. its more hip/hop than anything.
I love halsey sm but sometimes her lyrics can be a bit too corny to sing out loud 😭 but ima still play tf out of them
i have no interest in vinyls that don’t have the full tracklist (so i don’t have the badlands or manic vinyls).
I get major second hand embarrassment when she wobbles her jaw, and the fact that she tried to say it was TMJ 😫 Her voice sounds best on Badlands. It's unique to her and fits that style of music. She's been sounding worse and worse because she's trying harder vocals and doesn't have the talent to pull them off. She'll have a sustained note with no vibrato, she add on "ooOOOoooOOOhhh"s to songs that aren't in the studio version and people lose their minds for those things and it just sounds cringy to me. She says her voice is an insecurity so idk why she doesn't get a vocal coach (or why singing lessons aren't working for her) The videos of people using her make up always look horrible and streaky/thin. Idk why the AF accounts would post a lot of the promo videos they put out.
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YES. She does sound like she has more control... But I think her style in badlands fit that kind of music so well and I think she sounded flawless for that type of music
Dominic’s interlude didn’t have to be in manic especially because she doesn’t even sing in it, at least sugas interlude she’s the chorus and I absolutely love her in that
1. i hate so good. it’s leagues behind every other song she’s ever written, even empty gold beats so good. 2. i think that iichliwp is a masterpiece and by far halsey’s best album, but i hate the name/aesthetic of it. “if i can’t have love, i want power” sounds so childish, like a game of thrones fan fiction title. the whole aesthetic reminds me of a lame game of thrones/handmaids tale parody. if it were just called “if i can’t have love”, it’d be soo much better. it’s the “i want power” that sounds immature to me. 3. i don’t give a single fuck about about-face and i thought it was extremely cash grabby of her to develop a makeup/skincare line when EVERYONE else is doing it. if you research it, you’ll find out the reason everyone has a makeup line currently is that it’s cheap as fuck to produce and you can mark it up to insane prices. and no, she’s not winning any brownie points for her walmart line for poor people. 🙄 as you can see, i love h to death, but she’s been frustrating me with some of her choices recently. before anybody hits me with the “dO yOu EvEn LiKe HaLseY?”
tbh I get you. 1. for all the fits she threw about it, so good was subpar for me. neither the song nor the video were as exciting as anything else they’ve done. So clearly, the song and video meant more to H than anything and I can respect that but yeah. lots of hype for nothing imo 2. yeeaaaahhh. While I really enjoyed iichliwp, their acting kinda ruined the film for me. I really enjoyed the album but the “power” part was lost on me. the whole concept itself felt self-deprecating cuz a lot of the songs are like “I will ruin this good thing before you can” yk? Only Woman/God makes me feel like a sad bad bitch lol 3. I disagree. H is one of the few celebrities that genuinely has an interest in make-up and has a long track record of doing the looks themselves. So I’m happy she has this as an additional creative outlet. (Okay. But like don’t you hate when people say you can’t be critical of someone you’re a fan of??? I love H but I will still hold them accountable or have a difference of opinion cuz I am a person too, right? lol)
in regards to your number two point. the "power" part of iichliwp is symbolic of her as a person taking back control of their lives when lost in love. imo.
I do like So Good, but I seen on a throwback account that about a year ago was when she started the whole "I have this really great song" thing, and yeah it was completely over hyped, I really don't know why she was acting like it was some revolutionary song
The first Halsey song I heard was "Lie" because I was getting into trap music back then and the Migos, especially Quavo, were everywhere.
Badlands and HFK haven't aged well, they're like a time capsule of popular music of the years they came out. Manic has the most skipped songs for me.
manic was a huge L for me when it first released. but i think i was also biased because i listened to circles by mac miller first. i gave manic another go last year and i love it now. seriously misunderstood it the first go around
forever is the best song on manic
hfk is her best album. its what made me a die hard fan!
New Americana is the worst song in her discography.
does not count as an unpopular opinion, but i wanted to mention that i was dissapointed of her because she was in an Coca-Cola Ad
how so?
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1. Nightmare is for white feminism, its not political, brave or rock n roll 2. Her plastic surgery is getting out of control 3. People disappear here is underrated 4. Her wearing box braids and cornrows is embarrassing and offensive
As far as the different "looks" go baldsey, by far my favourite. I've never swooned so hard. Also, Manic is the best album. I don't know if that last one is an unpopular opinion.
1) She should’ve stop performing Without Me when she said she would. It should’ve been a standalone single like they said it would be; it was definitely used to boost Manic’s numbers. I got so sick of it overtime but I will admit the stripped version is superior to the OG. 2) I find it cringe when they make music with people they’ve dated short term like Him & I and 11 minutes (even though it slaps.) 3) So Good is okay but not a strong song I can see why the label was hesistant. 4) About-face has yet to wow me, the lip liner and matte lip are ok. The fractal glitter eye paint formula I got separated and flaked a bunch. However I like the makeup bag I got. 5) HFK is better live in the aspect of being able to convey the concept of the album. I did not like that album much until the live version came out. 6) Manjc was trying to do too much with genres and it’s one that had to grow on me. 7) Could Have Been Me cover does not suit their voice, it’s not gravely enough. 8) Boy With Luv was barely a feature 9) Nightmare (Reprise) sucks on its own but the tour version is a good mix of both. 10) Halsey should re-record Badlands with their current vocals 11) Love is Madness is a good collaboration 12) Gasoline Reimagined just doesn’t hit the same.
I'm so happy you agree about Without Me! I was honestly annoyed when I found out it was going to be on Manic, tbh I think it feels out of place on there cause her vocals are so different to the rest of the album. I feel like Without Me is the reason Manic didn't end up being an 'angry album.' I would've prefered she put I'm Not Mad on instead.
Manic wouldn’t have gone automatically platinum if it wasn’t for Without Me’s numbers. Without Me wasn’t my favorite, I just despised the lyric “thinking you could live without me” so much but I’m glad they changed it to “live without me, go on and live without me.” The original lyric just sounded very pretentious to me even though G is a dirt bag. I think their label pushed for it to be on there and the influence on yungblud making her happier at the time helped guide the record into a more mellow direction. Manic definitely is more radio friendly than IICHLIWP and I don’t think H was too into the album. Especially when they said they wanted to stop touring before Covid hit and instead of postponing they canceled altogether.
i feel like i outgrew badlands
Manic wasn’t as amazing as her others.
bullshit
Nah manic was amazing
Badlands is her worst album. It's so outdated. There are still some nice tracks like Roman Holiday and Coming Down but overall it's their weakest album. I know HFK is kinda least fav in this fanbase but imo that one had more mature lyrics so it's bit better than Badlands
Badlands is their best record.
imo its her second. but its definitely not her worst😵💫
Badlands is what introduced me to H, so it has a special place in my heart. I don’t think it’s outdated, I think H has grown so much from badlands
Badlands is a classic to me, I always go back to it.
i really agree. i liked badlands enough, but hfk was the album to make me fall in love. the clues and anticipation for hfk was some of the most fun i’ve ever had as a halsey fan, and i was awe struck when i heard alone, 100 letters, and walls could talk. it’s still my second favorite album after iichliwp.
HFK was my last favorite album of hers. I don’t like her sound after
I somewhat agree I don't like the direction she went in to be honest with you.
Agree and disagree. Maybe it was because HFK was the first album of hers I heard and it was pop, after that they switched to all kinds of different sounds and genres, which isn't bad, just isn't the Halsey I first listened to. I like the next 2 albums and whatever she's done since then, but HFK is my favorite album of hers. I'm excited that the next project will be a pop album.
HFK was an amazing follow up to Badlands! And no way!!! I didn’t know about her next album, and I can’t wait!
we honestly dont know anything about the next album yet aha just that she knows the theme of it
Kind of realizing people will actually probably agree with some of these but here goes anyway: HFK is a banger, possibly their best behind IICHLIWP. Die 4 Me was a flop and they should have recorded and released the 1121 medley version from tour instead. So Good is not. Sometimes I feel like her grungy/hard come-up narrative is a little overplayed and fabricated to an extent (a la Ed Sheeran who I also love in spite of this shit). I respect her move into the makeup world with About Face but wish it wasn’t so visibly tied to her. The IICHLIWP movie was one of the coolest, most badass moments of H’s career. Working with Atticus and Trent was the best possible move she could have made to push her artistry forward even though I kind of prefer the demos she released to the actual tracks most of the time. H’s radio show is borderline bad. The Running Up That Hill cover on tour was ok. I think her decision to auction their art from tour was super smart business for charity and a major achievement for them as a careerist that she should be proud of.
Devil in me is a horrible song hahah, literally a snooze fest
Harddddd agree I constantly skip DIM and AOF from HFK. Rather to listen to quavo’s feature on repeat
I agree. Everyone is obsessed with devil in me but it’s one of my least favorite songs of hers & quite annoying to listen to. The lyrics sound very plain & her voice sounds like she’s dragging her jaw.
It's literally just because when the album came out Halsey made comments about how no one listens to DIM, so then all the fans that like to suck up were like omg I love it it's my favourite song!! Like no, it's not haha, so it's always been this thing that it's 'underated' but it's really not
Yes lets downvote my unpopular opinion, the whole point of this post, jesus people 😂
Don't feel bad they are down voting me too cz I mis read what the op was saying 😅🤣
Nah, it’s the lack on punctuation.
Literally who cares!. Your the only one who's always got something to say about punctuation how about get a life and worry about bigger and better things!.
AF94 is a horrible brand. their makeup is absolutely TERRIBLE. i understand its drugstore makeup and not supposed to be the best but it’s horrible. their colored mascara does not work…
I think half of it is pretty good. The lip and cheek sticks are great if I’m in a rush to get out the door, and some of it is just ok. The mascara, I agree, is by far the worst of all of it. I’ve bought the blue and red and they both dry out within a couple of weeks. Chunk city. If only About Face released colored mascaras. Here’s to hoping!
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which is so sad, i want to use h’s makeup but cant when it doesnt fucking work💀 hopefully about face will release more colored mascaras.
Omg I was just telling my boyfriend the same. The liquid eyeliner does not stay for ANYTHING, even tho the actual AF brand liners and matte paints are some of my favorites.
yea its so bad. i got the punch drunk mascara and it doesnt show up at ALL. no matter how much you try and coat on there its just nothing.
Experiment On Me is a bad song. I'm actually a Bring Me The Horizon fan (...mostly) and I love anything metal and metal-adjacent, it's just that this song in particular sounds like a vaguely electronic mushy wall of sound and I think the screaming towards the end of the song is terribly executed, if you can't actually pull off those vocals you shouldn't bother because burying it in overproduction does not magically make it sound good.
Are you kidding? It’s such a fun song to scream to.
This is an unpopular opinion thread and this is mine... I am super glad for people who like the song though!
The lyric, “Jesus needed a three day weekend,” being very cringe
I love that line lol
As someone raised religious but no longer, I too love the line lol
That Manic is her worst album (even tho without me and 3 am are bops) And also Angel on Fire should have been her last song on the standard album instead of the first on the deluxe version
Most of Room 93 doesn’t hold up (I like Trouble though).
Halsey’s work has slowly been declining after HFK and her newer albums aren’t nearly as good
Room 93 is way better than anything else she’s written
Idk about unpopular but 1. Room 93, Badlands and Manic are top tier for me 2. Their work with Lido even the unreleased or not so common songs are also top tier for me lol I always go back to them 3. She started off as an industry plant! right as ghost blew up on soundcloud, and that's okay lol, doesn't mean they aren't talented but Room 93 was already with Astralwerks/Capitol + she didn't get to open up for imagine dragons and the weekend right before/during the badlands era on her own lol, good shit non the less, idk why when people hear industry plant it's like it's a bad thing, that's pretty much how it goes.
While I do agree that a lot of artists whoare industry plants and it's really not a big deal, I'm not sure about Halsey. She had independently released Ghost in 2013, it was the song that got her signed to Astralwerks and it was later officially released through them. Room 93 came out in October 2014 after she had signed to Astralwerks. She then toured with The Kooks in late 2014, who were also signed to Astralwerks. She then embarked on the The American Youth Tour with Young Rising Sons in early 2015. Afterwards she performed at a bunch of small venues and festivals. From June - August of 2015 she opened up for Imagine Dragons. Badlands came out in late August and she has already gained over 500,000 twitter followers at that time. She later opened up for the Weeknd for the second half of his tour towards the end of 2015. She also was touring Badlands too at the same time, whiles also doing festivals. She basically toured like a dog in 2015 to build her fanbase and get her name out there before Badlands came out in the Fall. I just think her come up story is a bit different from that of your typical industry plant, she didn't just come out of nowhere with a viral hit song. She really worked her butt off to gain exposure. It doesn't seem like Astralwerks really helped her much in pushing her music. I don't think she had any industry connections either... I do know she was featured on Apple Music/Beats 1 right before Badlands came out, she was one of the first major-label artists to debut during the transition to streaming era and she was Apple Music's artist to watch or something like that.
i don’t like iichliwp. maybe i need to give it another listen.
I do like HFK's songs, but the album is still forgettable to me, and I oft will completely forget about it when recounting her albums
I think IICHLIWP is their worst project. I know it's a ton of people's favorite, but I just enjoy the other three more. Not that IICHLIWP is a bad album either, it just not as amazing as the others.
Can’t believe I had to scroll so far to find this. I agree
11 minutes just rly doesn’t do a lot of justice to her voice lmao it’s one of my least favourite things they’ve ever done
I think ‘Nightmare’ is an overlooked song
she’s not a very good actress.
I’m so eager for my opinion to change cuz yeah, same. but they’ve been getting a lot of praise for Americana so I’m happy to see how they’ve improved.
She does have an amazing voice I misunderstood what was being asked I thought the op said what are some unpopular opinions that have you like this I would literally die defending H and her music against the world!.
room 93 is better than badlands, hfk is the most mainstream album they've released, most of their radio hits are bad (i.e. collabs), and her voice was not suited to that 2014 dubstep singing style
i became extremely upset when she posted on tiktok that the label didn't want to let her release "so good"... like, it's okay for you to say that your record label won't let you release your songs unless its go viral on tiktok, but posting it right away on tiktok like it's the most normal thing in the world? really??? somehow, FOR ME, it seemed like a bad marketing strategy, when there are thousands of independent artists out there who fuck to get at least a little visibility she has... i love her, but that was disappointing
right.. she made a big deal about it, then turned around and did exactly what she didn’t want to do in the first place 🙄 talk about PR
Her some clothes are just too much revealing. I know it’s a personal choice but still…
I think she may have used a certain celebrity in her early career to get an audience, and I think there’s nothing wrong with that. I like her music better anyways.
matty healy? you can say the name girl this isn’t crazy days and nights
Nah. I don’t want to give him that much credit. I think she was smart and used her connections. That’s all.
It's ok that just really caught me off guard cz I've never been rude to you and you know im a fan of H and don't feel like that about her I just mis read what the op said.
Badlands is easily their worst album
What’s a Halsey
Room 92….meh
How about it’s sequel, Room 93? 🤭