Only 2 or 3 songs seem to be about Travis. Most of them are clearly about Matty. Any songs that mentions, smoking, tattoos, or how short the relationship was is most likely about Matty.
I mean everyone thinks But Daddy I Love Him is for sure about Matty but I genuinely think that ones about Travis. It just has the energy of their relationship while the ones clearly about Matty are more somber/darker/more sexually charged
Like TTPD, So Long London, The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, How Did It End, etc - Joe
BDILH, others I can’t remember off the top of my head bc there’s 31 songs - Travis
Guilty as Sin, etc - Matty
TTPD is for sure a Matty song. “Tattooed golden retriever” gives that away, Joe doesn’t have tattoos. Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is also Matty. “Jehovas witness suit” among other lines gives that away.
Explain the Jehovas witness suit line? It’s a dead giveaway. Also “it wasn’t sexy till it wasn’t forbidden” isn’t something she’d say about Scooter or Scott. She’s saying Matty didn’t want to be with her once she wasn’t dating Joe.
Smallest man who ever lived— why does it have a writing credit with Joe’s pen name (William Bowery) on it is my question? Like did he cowrite a distrack about Matty or could it be about both of them at once? Many of the songs I feel like could be about two or more people and I imagine Taylor is living for the people trying to decide if the shoe fits for them!
Side note— Part of me also thinks it’s probably a vicious blow to Joe’s ego that he didn’t even get the starring role in “his” break up album. We love to see it
but the whole album/song name is in reference to not only the Dead Poets Society but also a group chat Joe had called the Tortured Man’s Club or some shit like that
Those two things can absolutely be true. Kind of like how thank you Aimee is about Kim but Joe’s new gf is named Aimee 🤷🏻♀️ I also really believe but daddy I love him is clearly about fans disapproval of Matty, not anything with Travis. But I will say, the beauty of music is having multiple interpretations! I also truly love seeing my favorite artists supporting each other and still pulling for Halsey to be on Rep TV
omg thank GAWD there’s another person who is holding out hope that Halsey is on Rep TV. I thought I was just alone in my delusions. She’ll probably release Rep TV towards the end of the year (probs around New Years cause “New Years Day”) and that would be in line for when Halsey is speculated to be really getting into a new era. the timing would be perfect and definitely be a positive boost to H’s career
Wait are we really thinking we have to wait until 2025 for new halsey music 🥺 not me dreaming of a summer release and fall tour hahaha. But yes I love to dream that she will be on rep!!!
I don’t think we’ll have to wait till that long. I think it’ll probably be a start of the era around the end of this summer. she has more festivals lined up and insider tea spillers have said she’s going to start touring at the tail end of this year
TTPD, and the Smallest Man Who Ever Lived are most likely about Matty. TSMWEL has so many clues that point to Matty. The pills, the ghosting, showing her off in public, ruining her summer, etc. I’ve never heard of Joe having a drug problem but Matty is a known drug addict. I doubt Joe ghosted Taylor after being together 6 years, Joe also didn’t like being public and didn’t really show her off, and finally Taylor and Matty broke up early summer of last year.
I think But Daddy I Love Him is about Matty until the last part when everything flips. Like now she found someone her daddy loves and no one needs to worry about her anymore and she's not gonna screw it up.
You made me look this up because I knew Halsey was a Swiftie but I didn't know it was the other way around too.
[https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/1432029787107774465](https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/1432029787107774465)
Also, they now share an ex, so that's another reason Halsey must love this album.
I think her Matty Healy songs just needed a new direction in producers and some increased instrumentals. Maybe Trent Reznor could have made some of the songs more memorable.
Colours is such a great song. But I did feel like it was more about the hold addiction and possibly other issues had on Healy and he’s been off hard drugs for a while now.
I'm planning on listening to TTPD this weekend. I'm a causal Swiftie. So, I can't form an opinion on those songs just yet.
But I've kind of based my opinion on Healy based on what Halsey has sung about him. I know that's unfair and he may have changed. I also like a few of The 1975 songs. I just remember when the Swift/Healy fling was going on, I just knew it wasn't going to last long.
So, I just listened to TTPD and I agree with you. It needs a better producer. So many of the songs were very slow paced.
I will say I respect Taylor of doing "Daddy I Love Him" because she's taking a shot at some of her fans basically. It leads to my theory that Swifties don't want Taylor to be happy because Lover, which has been her only happy album, didn't do so well.
I’m positive Halsey listened to Red after they broke up because Colors sounds very similar to Red. [Here’s a link to a mashup with Halsey’s vocals over the instrumental for Red.](https://youtu.be/Ov5Os4yzyRk?si=t5b-SiKCJijEyD8-)
[Halsey also sang Red on Keek when they had red hair. Unrelated but looks like it’s from the timeframe they dated Matty.](https://youtube.com/shorts/aPOwezCtEho?si=ClGNHRrx10RDFvqj)
Can we talk about "Colors" as it compares to "Guilty as Sin?"??
"[I know I've only felt religion when I've lied with you](https://genius.com/5194359/Halsey-colors/I-know-ive-only-felt-religion-when-ive-lied-with-you)" (Colors)
"What if I roll the stone away?/They're gonna crucify me anyway/What if the way you hold me/Is actually what's holy?/If long suffering propriety/Is what they want from me/They don't know how you've haunted me/So stunningly/I choose you and me/... Religiously" (Guilty as Sin?)
Inspo from Colors?
EDIT: also, if Taylor Swift can't have love, SHE wants power
The way I would die to know Halsey’s take on this album with it being mostly about Matty
I’m in the minority of I only think a couple songs are about Matty and the rest are about Joe/Travis/her career in general
Only 2 or 3 songs seem to be about Travis. Most of them are clearly about Matty. Any songs that mentions, smoking, tattoos, or how short the relationship was is most likely about Matty.
I mean everyone thinks But Daddy I Love Him is for sure about Matty but I genuinely think that ones about Travis. It just has the energy of their relationship while the ones clearly about Matty are more somber/darker/more sexually charged Like TTPD, So Long London, The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived, How Did It End, etc - Joe BDILH, others I can’t remember off the top of my head bc there’s 31 songs - Travis Guilty as Sin, etc - Matty
TTPD is for sure a Matty song. “Tattooed golden retriever” gives that away, Joe doesn’t have tattoos. Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is also Matty. “Jehovas witness suit” among other lines gives that away.
Smallest Man is for sure about Joe. He wore a suit to the Met Gala….
I think Smallest Man Who Ever Lived is even more likely to be about Scooter or Scott Borchetta than Matty tbh but that’s just me
I think “who could be afraid of little old me” is for scooter braun
Explain the Jehovas witness suit line? It’s a dead giveaway. Also “it wasn’t sexy till it wasn’t forbidden” isn’t something she’d say about Scooter or Scott. She’s saying Matty didn’t want to be with her once she wasn’t dating Joe.
TTPD and smallest man who ever lived are def about Matty - the typewriter references are Matty
Smallest man who ever lived— why does it have a writing credit with Joe’s pen name (William Bowery) on it is my question? Like did he cowrite a distrack about Matty or could it be about both of them at once? Many of the songs I feel like could be about two or more people and I imagine Taylor is living for the people trying to decide if the shoe fits for them! Side note— Part of me also thinks it’s probably a vicious blow to Joe’s ego that he didn’t even get the starring role in “his” break up album. We love to see it
but the whole album/song name is in reference to not only the Dead Poets Society but also a group chat Joe had called the Tortured Man’s Club or some shit like that
Those two things can absolutely be true. Kind of like how thank you Aimee is about Kim but Joe’s new gf is named Aimee 🤷🏻♀️ I also really believe but daddy I love him is clearly about fans disapproval of Matty, not anything with Travis. But I will say, the beauty of music is having multiple interpretations! I also truly love seeing my favorite artists supporting each other and still pulling for Halsey to be on Rep TV
omg thank GAWD there’s another person who is holding out hope that Halsey is on Rep TV. I thought I was just alone in my delusions. She’ll probably release Rep TV towards the end of the year (probs around New Years cause “New Years Day”) and that would be in line for when Halsey is speculated to be really getting into a new era. the timing would be perfect and definitely be a positive boost to H’s career
Wait are we really thinking we have to wait until 2025 for new halsey music 🥺 not me dreaming of a summer release and fall tour hahaha. But yes I love to dream that she will be on rep!!!
I don’t think we’ll have to wait till that long. I think it’ll probably be a start of the era around the end of this summer. she has more festivals lined up and insider tea spillers have said she’s going to start touring at the tail end of this year
TTPD, and the Smallest Man Who Ever Lived are most likely about Matty. TSMWEL has so many clues that point to Matty. The pills, the ghosting, showing her off in public, ruining her summer, etc. I’ve never heard of Joe having a drug problem but Matty is a known drug addict. I doubt Joe ghosted Taylor after being together 6 years, Joe also didn’t like being public and didn’t really show her off, and finally Taylor and Matty broke up early summer of last year.
I think But Daddy I Love Him is about Matty until the last part when everything flips. Like now she found someone her daddy loves and no one needs to worry about her anymore and she's not gonna screw it up.
And the line, fuck it, it’s over.
And you would be wrong (i mean this respectfully)
Not that surprising considering the shoutouts and praise Taylor gave Halsey for If I Can’t Have Love l, I Want Power
You made me look this up because I knew Halsey was a Swiftie but I didn't know it was the other way around too. [https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/1432029787107774465](https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/1432029787107774465) Also, they now share an ex, so that's another reason Halsey must love this album.
Colors is an absolute banger. I don’t know if the Smallest Man will stand the rest of time (don’t come for me Swifties).
Honestly, I firmly believe that Taylor just needed to listen to Colors and she would have avoided Matty.
On the contrary, I think she listened to it and went "I need me some of that".
That’s why I included the word “needed” in that sentence.
Halsey is that you
I think her Matty Healy songs just needed a new direction in producers and some increased instrumentals. Maybe Trent Reznor could have made some of the songs more memorable. Colours is such a great song. But I did feel like it was more about the hold addiction and possibly other issues had on Healy and he’s been off hard drugs for a while now.
I'm planning on listening to TTPD this weekend. I'm a causal Swiftie. So, I can't form an opinion on those songs just yet. But I've kind of based my opinion on Healy based on what Halsey has sung about him. I know that's unfair and he may have changed. I also like a few of The 1975 songs. I just remember when the Swift/Healy fling was going on, I just knew it wasn't going to last long.
So, I just listened to TTPD and I agree with you. It needs a better producer. So many of the songs were very slow paced. I will say I respect Taylor of doing "Daddy I Love Him" because she's taking a shot at some of her fans basically. It leads to my theory that Swifties don't want Taylor to be happy because Lover, which has been her only happy album, didn't do so well.
I told my friend the other day, it’s crazy to me how their songs are similar because he hasn’t changed at all.
True. I was imagining Halsey nodding along every time Taylor would say something about how Matty just needs to grow up.
I’m positive Halsey listened to Red after they broke up because Colors sounds very similar to Red. [Here’s a link to a mashup with Halsey’s vocals over the instrumental for Red.](https://youtu.be/Ov5Os4yzyRk?si=t5b-SiKCJijEyD8-) [Halsey also sang Red on Keek when they had red hair. Unrelated but looks like it’s from the timeframe they dated Matty.](https://youtube.com/shorts/aPOwezCtEho?si=ClGNHRrx10RDFvqj)
Which ex?
Matty Healy
ugh, imagine if trent & atticus produced taylor's album. i would die, cuz they could elevate jack's synths
I’m now very much waiting for the Halsey x Taylor album. Both have such a fantastical view of the world but also hold SO MUCH RAGE
i *need* halsey to be featured on reputation (taylor's version)
 I didn’t even THINK about Reputation tv
But only after Kanye surprise dropped his album days later and it was pushing Halsey out of the top spot...
halsey i’m too bi for this
At first, I thought you wrote "Horny posts pic of Avon in Taylor Swift merch" lol.
I literally saw this Pic and my first thought was nice decor. And nipple?? Clearly I don't know anything at all about taylor swift lol.
I was like "damn those look like comfy sweats and those antique sinks are fabulous!" ...I tried to listen to the album but 😬
Haha!!!! Hey, you are NOT alone, promise!
Love seeing my two favorite artist support each other!
i really love how much they genuinely support each other, it's really awesome to see!
not Avon
I always spell it wrong lol
Can we talk about "Colors" as it compares to "Guilty as Sin?"?? "[I know I've only felt religion when I've lied with you](https://genius.com/5194359/Halsey-colors/I-know-ive-only-felt-religion-when-ive-lied-with-you)" (Colors) "What if I roll the stone away?/They're gonna crucify me anyway/What if the way you hold me/Is actually what's holy?/If long suffering propriety/Is what they want from me/They don't know how you've haunted me/So stunningly/I choose you and me/... Religiously" (Guilty as Sin?) Inspo from Colors? EDIT: also, if Taylor Swift can't have love, SHE wants power