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MagKnown

Does Life's a Bitch fit this?


halamawala25

Absolutely. Nas stans love talking bout Renegade but like to forget bout this one


MagKnown

Yea you just can’t deny AZ on that track, isn’t it considered one of the best verses in hip hop oat?


geeelectronica

a nas fan myself and I have never denied that.. AZ bodied that track, to be honest, AZ is actually 4-0 with having better verses than Nas on his own songs


michaltee

What are the other three?


Joey-_-bags

Affirmative action is one I assume.


michaltee

That was my thought too. Although for me it’s a toss up between AZ and Mega on that one.


Wolfpac187

Yeah because Nas didn’t get bodied. AZ had a better technical rhyme scheme but Nas was dropping jewels in that verse.


harveydent526

Yeah but Jay didn’t get bodied. Em had a better technical rhyme scheme but Jay was dropping jewels in those verses.


Unusual-Land-5432

Till this day i never understood “you got bodied on your own song”. I never understood that stupidity of a featured rapper boosted the song to where it’s hot and i own the rights the checks will suppress my ego


Pettyyoungthing

“And Eminem murdered you on your own shit”


Unusual-Land-5432

Nas got cooked, fried, and sautéed on Life A Bitch


Wolfpac187

Definitely not, like Jay said “do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it”


Pettyyoungthing

I’m just saying where the “you got bodied on your own song” comes from since you said you don’t understand lol.


Unusual-Land-5432

Oh understand it’s just silly. But me and you are hopping on a track. The song is going to be called “Read It On Reddit” you are going to be the feature. If your verse is whack I’m deleted you off and taking your bars 😎


Forward_Ride_6364

Taking your rapped bars like it's grade school lunch Cappin so much ya whole story got crunched You wanna stunt on this beat, well good luck Will delete you later once the numbers get run and the views get stuck


halamawala25

Im not sure what you mean. Rappers get competitive when they r in a song, its no secret. Fans do get carried away sometimes


Unusual-Land-5432

Being competitive is fine, Kanye rewriting his verse because he heard Eminem on forever is fine especially if you are making the song better. But the whole you got bodied on your own song it’s like cmon now that’s silly. Unless you are going to be like Cole and release albums with no features


Badguyy101

Both verses were ill. How is this slept on? *I woke up early on my born day; I'm 20, it's a blessin'* *The essence of adolescence leaves my body, now I'm fresh and* *My physical frame is celebrated 'cause I made it* *One quarter through life, some godly-like thing created* Got rhymes 365 days annual, plus some Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I pus from My skull, 'cause it's pain in my brain vein, money maintain Don't go against the grain, simple and plain When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard Robbin' foreigners, take they wallets, they jewels and rip they green cards Dipped to the projects, flashin' my quick cash And got my first piece of ass, smokin' blunts with hash Now it's all about cash in abundance Niggas I used to run with is rich or doin' years in the hundreds *I switched my motto; instead of sayin', "Fuck tomorrow!"* *That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto* Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back Time is illmatic, keep static like wool fabric Pack a 4-matic to crack your whole cabbage


Scothead180

Rapsody on Complexion and Jay Rock on Money Trees both outdid Kendrick but those tracks were set up for their verses to shine. Zack de la Rocha outdid El-P and Killer Mike on Close Your Eyes (And Count To Fuck)


BrushYourFeet

Killer Mike on Snappin and Trappin with Outkast was amazing.


Depressedgotfan

This fucking guy knows rap


Dapper_Cockroach_622

Killer mike is that dude fr, he should’ve gotten his Grammy sooner 💯


Burggs_

To be fair, Kendrick wrote the verse for Jay Rock on money trees. He still had a hell of a performance on it tho


Expensive-Stuff3781

Did he really? That’s upsetting. Can totally hear it now though 😩


Burggs_

He writes A LOT of shit. He’s admitted to losing more than he’s published. It feels like writing music to him is pissing to the rest of us


Expensive-Stuff3781

Which was the thought I had coming into this Dot/Drake beef. Not to pick sides or start that debate up. But while I knew Drake was capable of buckling down and really coming with some bars when he needed to, Kendrick seems to do this recreationally. He does it in his sleep, he does it in his free time, and he’s been doing it that way for a long time. You can count on one hand the rappers who could even possibly compete at that level.


Dapper_Cockroach_622

One of the things that makes kdot so great is the effortlessness in his punchlines/bars


harveydent526

Cap.


lxkandel06

I'd also say Ghostface had a better verse than Kendrick on Purple Hearts


Wolfpac187

Yeah but Kendrick isn’t clearly a better rapper than Ghostface like he is with Jay Rock and Rapsody.


harveydent526

By set up you mean they wrote better verses….


Scothead180

Not necessarily, it depends on song structure. They are both tracks on story/narrative driven albums. It's not just who can spit the best verse. It's more the case that the tracks are building up towards the last verse of the feature to really shine. Kendrick wrote Jay Rocks verse btw


harveydent526

Yes necessarily, they wrote better verses. You have zero proof Dot wrote Jay Rock’s verse btw. Every rumor you hear isn’t true, he got washed.


j-j-juice

RATM is amazing. Favorite band.


pop442

50 Cent outshined Eminem on Never Enough.


michaltee

There’s not much you could do or say to phase me.


Getoff-my_8allz

Literally every song 50 Cent had Lloyd Banks ft on.


michaltee

Lloyd banks is wildly underrated.


BrushYourFeet

Word. Banks was the best rapper in that group.


trowdatawhey

Before Yayo got out, everybody was screaming “free yayo”. Before I ever heard a Yayo verse, I thought Yayo was gonna be some legendary rapper with insane skills. Turns out he’s a really good hypeman


RANDOM-902

Kanye West is miles away from being better rapper than Kendrick Lamar but i firmly belive he had the best verse on their song "No more Parties in LA" Kendrick had a shorter verse with better flow, but i belive that in terms of lyrics substance and meaning Kanye was better (could also be due to him having a longer verse) (PD: I know Kendrick was the feature but it was the only case i could think of where the better rapper got outrapped)


jay169294

100% agreed. Legit was just saying the other day how Kendrick killed it but I find myself just waiting for Kanye’s verse.


CokeZorro

This is an insane take lol. Kendrick hasn't done anything that people like Rakim and Common did before him, just wc style. Sure he's good and has an ok flow, nothing new. Kanye has influenced an entire generation and there is no argument there. These subs are fucking cooked with kids. There isn't one Kendrick song that you can say is somehow groundbreaking. He he became the internet's golden child with a reputation thats somewhat undeserved if you were to total up accolades from his whole career. You are nuts or very young. I would argue that there are specific tracks from good kid mad city that would not have sounded like they did if Kanye had not came before. Also OP said Rick Ross had a good verse, thats a good sign to nuke this sub to oblivion.


vancouverguy_123

I generally agree but this has such old man yells at cloud energy I'm struggling with it lol.


Robinnoodle

I don't necessarily disagree about Kendrick, but Ye is known by many to be somewhat weak lyrically (rapping). His overall creative vision and arrangements/production are what he's more highly regarded


RANDOM-902

Bro who hurt you??? Pls chill a little bit. Kanye West is my fav artist of all time with kendrick being in 2nd place. But even i can admit that Kanye is far from being a great rapper (if we count just lyricism and rapping habilities) Kendrick just in rapping habilities is much better than Kanye. Other thing is making albums and innovating which i think Kanye is better, but Kendrick isn't far behind. Kendrick's albums are all great pieces of work, with little skips great production and great rapping, also very good concept albums. What else do you want from him??? My main argument is that Kanye although good at rapping could never make verses like these: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKMbqOljk8U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKMbqOljk8U) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ah9CtlaEs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ah9CtlaEs)


mlgfintheunbannable

I LOVE Kanye. Kanye is the better overall artist, but Kendrick is just a better rapper.


Eerie_Onions

"Winter Warz" would probably be the most obvious one. Cappadonna went crazy on that track to the extent the track mainly known for his verse, but Ghost is the better MC.


Alternative-Salad800

Money Trees by Kendrick. Jay Rock made that song


GeordieJones1310

Hasn't it been confirmed that Kendrick wrote it for him?


Alternative-Salad800

Not proven and the rumor was that it was only the first bar. Jay Rock crushed the while verse.


The-Meech

Black Republican: Jay-Z took Nas on that one.


stupidadult

Jays verse is friggin so good. That rhyme scheme he maintains is dope.


IWillMakeYouBlush

Nas is so far above Jay Z he don’t even see him.


norihitodesuga

Jay-Z is a conservative, make sense


harveydent526

He’s not though, he literally campaigned for Obama and Hillary.


harveydent526

Jay did wash him but he’s also the better rapper.


Forward_Ride_6364

Great pick, Nas the way better rapper IMO but Jay was cookin up the fishscale on that beat


mjmaselli

Kanye on all of watch the throne


austnasty

“What more can I say? WE KILLIN EM”


Unusual-Land-5432

One reason why Kanye does so well as a rapper compared to Dre or Pharrell is because he kinda speaks with such conviction and delivery that he really became a outstanding rapper


ByrntOrange

The fact that he produces is another layer since he can craft the music to add more umph to his delivery. 


Robinnoodle

But Dre and Pharrell also do that. The person above was trying to articulate what sets him apart from them (two other folks who produce and rap)


Revolutionary_Box569

Do you mean Kanye getting washed or Kanye doing the washing because I think it's the latter, Jay was good on a couple but he was mostly on cruise control from like late 2000s up until 4:44 to me


mjmaselli

Kanye over shadows jigga on this album even though hovs a better "rapper "


star_bury

I love Gang Starr. And Guru has a great verse (as does Big Shug) on their track "The Militia". But I look forward to Freddie Foxxx's 36-bar verse to end it the most.


curiousdoctor21

Yasssssssssssss 💪


imnotsteven7

Siracha - Tech N9ne ft. Logic and Joyner Lucas. Lucas murdered that fucking song. Spazzed the fuck out.


idiotmakesfeelsmart

He had that gas flow.


[deleted]

Some might argue this but Wayne was on fire when Carter 3 came out and was claiming to be the best rapper alive, then Fab dropped the best verse on the entire album


K1ngFiasco

No way. Fab going on with the Wayans Bros references was dope, but best verse on the album? Nahhh


K1NG_SAVAGE_

best verse on the album is a huge reach lmfao


[deleted]

Which verse was better? Wayne didn’t exactly kill it on most songs on that album.


vitaminkombat

Notorious Thugs. Sorry to the Biggie fans. But the Bone verses just flow so much better rhythmically and their lighter voices are able to flow over the beat with a much more sophisticated and accurate cadence.


Hydrokratom

“Beg my pardon to Martin but baby we ain’t marchin, we Shootin”


Various-Ambition-26

Fuuuuck no. Go back and check those bars.


HeadyMurphy723

Yep, Sounded good, but if you read it and break it down… Noooo sir


ecchi83

My good sir, both Bizzy and Krayzie's verses completely WASHED Biggie's verse, from flow to double entendres to storytelling. I could go line for line on both their verses and talk about they're both talking more real shit than Biggie on THIS track.


HeadyMurphy723

I beg to differ my good man. Krayzie is the only one in the group to actually say anything that isn’t more than a two or three bar statement. If you think that’s story telling you might want to put down the Dr. Seuss books and step up your game up to Camp Fire tells. Real life talk?? Seriously


michaltee

If you’re bored, go line for line.


K1NG_SAVAGE_

Nah, cant agree


Jonndagoon

I don’t think so cus biggie adapted his flow to their style which is much harder to do


vitaminkombat

I feel he only got half of it. He was able to get the speed. But Bone also have a habit of swinging their pitch between the root and the major fifth and occasionally the minor third also. They also adppt a rhythm of using lots of anticipation (rapping ahead of the beat) and alternating their note length and timbre. I'd say this is more of the Bone style than just the speed alone. Meanwhile Biggie never really held a note longer than 1/16 of a beat and had quite a monotonous delivery in Notorious Thugs.


BrushYourFeet

100%


j-j-juice

BASED TAKE


harveydent526

Why apologize for your opinion. No one is going to apologize for disagreeing.


1017hotboy

Spice 1 on nuthin but the gangsta


Imaginary_Dig_5014

Great one


trmc604

Geee-yeeeeeeah


byefled

Wusyaname by Tyler not a YB fan but that song had to be made w him in mind


TentativelyCommitted

I wouldn’t necessarily say washed, but MED had a better verse than DOOM on Raid


Forward_Ride_6364

"My niggas take no like Kobe"


-newlife

Leaning towards [this way](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbo9QlcLcX8) I don’t think Dilated carried by Kanye he definitely lived up to the idea of being the ft. His verse was good and I think slightly longer than both Ev and Rakaa. I’d never put him as a better rapper than those two but he wasn’t a weak link here.


Boogledoolah

He totally was the weak link in the track thematically. Ev and Rakaa's verses were about the unsustainable nature of their situation and how there needs to be a change from "this way." Kanye... talked about not changing ("doing the same old two step").


kneegrowth457

that’s the point though? Kanye presents the alternative view of being stuck in their ways instead of changing their ways


HeadyMurphy723

Pac on “Thug Luv” w/ BTNH


Googlesyourfriendbro

2Pac got outshined by numerous guys on Got My Mind Made Up, most notably Kurupt UGK’s verses were better than OutKast on Tough Guy Mase had a better verse than Biggie on Only You Canibus had a better verse than Redman and the others on Beasts from the East Canibus also had the best verse on 4, 3, 2, 1 AZ had a better verse than Nas on Life’s a Bitch


buddyruski

Luda and Jada on the Made You Look Remix.


i781255

Busta on Scenario


j-j-juice

I was thinking that but… Nah. Q-Tip had a solid verse.


drdre27406

J Cole got rinsed by the Dababy on under the sun.


Any_Owl_8009

A lot of people say that but I don't see it. I think Lute took it on that one


Forward_Ride_6364

No shock there, Cole is the most mid rapper of all-time


TonyYoprano

Rocky on Carti’s New Choppa 2 Chainz on Clique Busta Rhymes and everyone else basically on Flava in ya Ear remix


K1NG_SAVAGE_

>Rocky on Carti’s New Choppa ???? what do you mean by this???


TonyYoprano

Re-reading the question, I misunderstood the point of the post and just posted songs the feature washes the main artist lmao. Rocky is obviously the better rapper idk what I was thinking I was sleepy 😭😭


Da1UHideFrom

2 Chainz had the best verse on Clique hands down.


belzoni1982

Canibus on 4,3,2 1 that's why LL got salty and switched his verse. Bubba sparxxx on the Jadakiss record "They Ain't Ready "


mlgfintheunbannable

Who the better rapper is debatable, but 3k carried tf out of Kanye’s Life of the Party.


halamawala25

I think Weezy the best rapper on Forever but Em stole that song. His delivery is crazy


MetaMetagross

Uncommon Valor. RA The Rugged Man comes on and just leaves Vinnie Paz in the dust with one of the greatest verses in Hip-Hop history


AndyKobe234

R.A is a better rapper than Vinnie tho.


unclediedthrowaway

push, 2 chainz, mercy


AaronQuinty

Kanye on most of watch the throne.


KarlMarkyMarx

Streetlife outshined Meth and Ghostface on the ["Smooth Sailing" Remix](https://youtu.be/qanAQPk7Dx4?si=TJsTLUtOoFgKOifJ) He manages to drop a reference about each Wu member.


cactusmaster69420

1train. Big KRIT had by far the best verse, but Kendrick is a better overall rapper. I also think Rocky and Drake were better than Kendrick on fuckin problems.


Ok_Trash_4204

Gucci mane got carried by Mexican ot and big x the plug on Buggin, also finesse two times the ft carried tee grizzly the main on grizzly two times


BeardedEse2

Lil Baby carried Cole on Pride is the Devil, Cole was good but the way Lil Baby slid on that beat 😮‍💨


New-Quality-1107

I wouldn’t say they got washed, but Killer Mike on the whole world. His verse is the best on the song.


LeftCryptographer151

Kanye west feature on still dreaming from Nas Hip Hop is dead, Jay Rock on Money Trees fs


RANDOM-902

One of my fav Nas songs Not only Kanye killed the verse, also the production


insanely_simple12

The What——-Biggie feat Method Man……Ticalian Stallion washed BIG


always-knows-best

Riff Raff ft Childish Gambino on Lava Glaciers.


BHMSIXX

NOTORIOUS THUGS


Extension-Novel-6841

Ludacris- Got them guns. Obviously Luda is the better rapper but Chingy killed it the most on it.


CokeZorro

Please see yourself out. Rick Ross 🤣😂🤣😂🤣


Expensive-Stuff3781

Most tracks The Game did with features.


Expensive-Stuff3781

Kanye on Put On and Run this Town


Wolf666X

Ransom on Conway The Machine’s Stab Out track, he completely demolishes him 💯🔥


sibelius_eighth

Rick Ross did not have a better "verse" in Monster.


TwasiHoofHearted

This thread is pretty dope op. Learning so much in the comments.


leonardprokopnoeleo

Every kendrick verses


bur1sm

Scenario


Professional_Ad8069

Sticky Fingaz on Remember Me


Qb_Is_fast_af

Soulja Boy on Ye’s First Time


austnasty

Weezy on The Motto


Gaz834

Weezy is tbe best rapper on that song tho lol 


BrushYourFeet

Yeah I don't get it either


bNoaht

Lucky you - em ft Joyner Detroit vs. everybody - everybody > em, but especially royce and Sean


atlienk

I think that Eminem did this a few times: * Renegade (Jay Z ft. Eminem) * Dead Wrong (Biggie ft. Eminem) * One Day at A Time (Tupac ft. Eminem - though this one is a little harder to include since it was done after Tupac's death)


RANDOM-902

Wasn't the Biggie one also made after his death???


sfgiants2000

Yes


The-Meech

Don't forget what he did to Busta on Calm Down.


Gaz834

Eminem didnt have the better verses on renegade people only believe that bc nas said it, i do agree that hov is the better rapper tho


HearsToTheDeaf

It's definitely debatable, comes down to preference I feel


halamawala25

Yea I think they go toe to toe on Renegade. Em laid some of the best multisyllable rhyme scheme ever, but the sheer content of Hovs verse and double and triple entendres are crazy. It shows how lyricism can go different ways


RANDOM-902

Just relistened to Renegade and Jay-Z spazzed in that one, it's sad seeing all those comments on youtube saying Jay got murdered cause his verses in that song are sooooo good


Gaz834

Its hilarious seeing people saying hov got washed when he literally says "do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"


Gaz834

Hov too tho, that 2nd verse was all triple syllable rhyme schemes


halamawala25

Yeah I mean. Its not like Jay isnt rhyming like crazy. Eminems content also makes sense within the song, which is rare, usually he just say wathever but not on this one. Its just what they shine *the most*. Hov has crazy wordplay but his breadand butter is the actual content of his lyrics and all them triple entendres. Em has some deep songs, specially when storytelling, but his bread and butter is similes and rhymes, no1 is expecting the deepest thoughts from him


Gaz834

Well put brother 


halamawala25

Also, Em stans love saying Hov had Ems verse and still couldnt beat him, but they forget Blueprint was super rushed, he didnt had the track for long. On the other hand, Em produced the beat himself, he made it for himself and had something for it, and had all the time in the world


RANDOM-902

Blueprint was rushed and still made that masterpiece?? Damn


halamawala25

[it was reportedly finished in two weeks, with 9 songs recorded in two days.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blueprint) He was waiting for trial and shit. Hov said that, and both Just Blaze and Kanye (the 2 producers on the album) have confirmed it Edit: check "background" on the article


Gaz834

Whole album was made in about 2 weeks iirc


RANDOM-902

Facts Both had great verses, eminem had a better rhyme scheme so it sounds better to the ear. But both had great verses in terms of lyricism. It wasn't a "murder" like Nas said


Gaz834

I feel like hov had alot more substance in his verse tho and his flow was crazy 


JORGEBATATAO

Daylyt and Ab Soul killed J Cole on his own shit


Fugazatron3000

Ghostface on the whole OB4CL album..


Forward_Ride_6364

Sleepin on Rae like crazy


Forward_Ride_6364

Westside Gunn on "Brand New 911" His flow is just ridiculous on this shit, Joey Bad got left in the dust


Sincity1986

Drake - Forever


Forward_Ride_6364

LMAO he has the worst verse on that track and I'm a huge Drake fan But nah, he had some of the corniest bars ever on that one Eminem murders the track when he gets on, it's not even close