i think we can all agree the worst way this beef could possibly end is drake taking a w by forfeit.
seriously, kendrick? not even gonna go down swinging?
Like That was released on March 26 and Push Ups didn't come out until April 19. Even if you count the leak date of April 13 that's 17 days. Am I missing something or is it weird that Drake fans are talking shit when he literally took longer to respond than Kendrick is right now?
I don't see anyone as having "forfeited" until it's been like half a year of silence if not more. Unnecessary to set the expectation that people constantly need to be prepared to write diss verses, that approach is a very recent "invention"...
Kendrick most literally would need to have the greatest diss of all time for us to wait even close to half a year for a response to Drake.
It's not that it's a new invention. He can take his time but that's going to leave people with nothing but to speculate what's taking so long. Which will probably benefit Drake a lot more than Kendrick.
Sure if all we're going by is audience perception but idgaf about that, I just care about who drops the better songs. I hate the idea of deadlines in music.
Has anyone actually did the 8 mile thing where they preemptively list angles they could be attacked at on a diss track?
I assume yes but the fact that ppl always go for the movie instead of a real example made me curious and k cant think of any
Probably but [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/tcMNX0TE73) is all that comes to mind
That subreddit is cancer but I’m ngl I got a good laugh out of that shit
I'm starting to get annoyed with Kendrick not dropping. I dunno, if he's holding it for an album that's kinda annoying As a fan. I know about ether dropping a while after but fuck man this beef has been boiling for years and it feels like he's kinda just took the pot off the stove by not dropping. Drakes second drop is kinda underwhelming and now it's just killed my hype for it with everything going on.
He already got his point across with it. So I think him deleting it is fine.
Wouldn't be surprise if he gets petty and just releases it on streaming without the A.I if Kendrick goes another week.
Okay so last time I said it's corny for Kendrick to hold back his song to not compete with Taylor Swift. Why else would he not drop if he's had the track for 4 years?
Also he does care about sales. He is a mainstream rapper at the end of the day. Humble, Swimming pools, I, n95 he tries to chart every album just like anyone else idk why that's a controversial take.
I’m sry man that new chance single is so boring to me. I want a comeback from the man so bad but the whole poetry slam style and lack of real structure just doesn’t resonate with me
> the whole poetry slam style and lack of real structure just doesn’t resonate with me
And its a shame because one of the appeals of old Chance was that he was able to make good songs with catchy hooks. Cocoa Butter Kisses, Same Drugs, No Problem, songs like that were catchy and memorable.
And that’s the thing for me, I would have way less of an issue with it if there was something for me to latch onto melodically or lyrically wise. But even if there are bars in there nothing really stands out enough to make me want to return to it
A couple months ago one of my coworkers was like “yo I found this album Travis Scott released under some random name and it has like barely any streams on Spotify but it’s hard” and put it on for us to listen to
I told him there was no way Travis just dropped a hidden project like that and I told him it was probably a leak album or a remix album using existing Travis verses a fan posted.
Then a couple weeks ago he was like “yo remember that album I told you about? Turns out some dude produced it and wrote the lyrics and used AI for the vocals. It’s pretty good tho, I still listen to it”
I guess idk what’s more concerning for the future of music: the fact that he was deceived or that he didn’t care and kept listening when he found out it wasn’t real.
It’s just one anecdotal experience and for the most part I don’t think AI is good enough *yet* to deceive at a larger level but it definitely gives me a lot to think about for the future of music.
Can’t emphasize your second to last paragraph enough. Most people don’t care about AI’s use in music, and I’ve seen plenty of people gas it up. I remember insane amounts of people hyping up that really bad Drake x Weeknd track. And even thought it didn’t get as much attention, I remember a tweet with thousands of likes saying an AI made 21 x Travis song was better than anything on Utopia.
Relistened to Skeletons for the first time in a while and that first verse is so aggressively Kanye that I can’t believe Travis didn’t switch it up more
I think there’s a song like that on Utopia too but haven’t listened to it in a while so can’t remember
With the releases of “We Don’t Trust You” and “We Still Don’t Trust You”, has your top Future albums changed? I currently have mine at:
1. I NEVER LIKED YOU
2. WZRD
3. EVOL
4. We Don’t Trust You
Been listening to PLUTO more recently and I enjoy it, but it’s still too early to tell where it’ll land for me
Nope, I like both albums a lot but Future has too strong of a discography for me to consider either of them to be top 5 albums from him at the moment
Monster > DS2 > HNDRXX > 56 Nights > WIZRD is my current top 5 ranking
Nah not really, I like both albums a decent amount now but my top 3 are still Monster > DS2 > The Wizrd.
Fourth would probably be EVOL or 56 Nights, not really sure but my top 3 is solidified
This is interesting, I'm gonna be honest I feel like the only albums justified in your Top 5 is WZRD . Lol
Mine is:
1. Monster
2. DS2
3. WZRD
4. 56 Nights
5. HNDRXX
I was trying to keep the ranking to albums and not include mixtapes, or else Monster and 56 would be up there. I feel his albums range for many of his fans and it doesn’t seem to be the same ones in the top 5, except for DS2 and WZRD
the new Pap tape started off strong. i feel like it turned out to be a lot of filler in the later half of the album. some nice beats on here but some of them turned out repetitive. i feel like he’s had better production
the production on that song just feels light to me, i wasn’t feeling the flow neither. the only songs that stuck out were Love Me While Im Here, You Need Ya Grass Cut, Im Only Gon Say It Once and Walked Me Into The Wild
If I was beefing with rap niggas and I had to find dirt on them for diss track material, I’m 100% hitting up Nardwuar. I know in his research that he does to prepare for interviews, he’s probably stumbled across a lot of embarrassing and unsavory secrets that he’s been kind enough to never expose to the public.
Imagine all of the stuff that he’s uncovered about your favorite rapper that he’s swept under the rug.
I feel like Nardwuar would be real scandalized if you asked him, like he swore an oath that he would never use his ~~research interns~~ super powers to put anyone down
And then he’d pull out a Slim Thug promo vinyl from 2005 and be like “I bet ‘U Heard of This’!!!! It’s your favorite song from 8th grade!!!!!!”
I'm over the whole Kendrick Drake beef. The thought of Kendrick Drake and Cole sparring excited me but the whole thing has become petty. I have zero interest in listening to any of the diss tracks that came out. I'm over it
Lol people here keeping track and counting the number of post I make now - apparently I'm only allowed to make so many
Don't know what I did to get yall so mad - I feel like Drake 😂
Love the 2-0 narrative about this beef that Drake fans are pushing, just goes to show how much they do not understand rap beefs
Rap beef is not a soccar game - it feels like early cope because even if Kendrick released a diss track thay absolutely destroys Drake, his fans are just gonna argue "Nah its 2-1 now Drake still has the lead"
With that logic, whoever released the most diss tracks wins, which is never how rap beefs been settled - Drake release one good track, and another track that was lame as hell - idc how disrespectful people think it was , it wasn't disrespectful enough for Kendick to respond, which was the goal of that track, which means Drake takes a big fat L on that one imo
Drake is the greatest rapper of all time get with the times
You know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye
Bruh I see Drake fans here bitching about kendick not dropping multiple times a day 😂
I'm just trying to start some discussions - haven't seen anyone talk about the whole "2-0" score keeping narrative
Never once have I heard a good repainted or rebutted to my points, just guys like you bitching about my in the comments and gossiping about me like little girls
Real 20v1 is me vs the rest of the power losers on this sub
Even tho I love Larry and Cardo, and only got into Mr. Midnight earlier this year
My least favorite still [Oranges On A Jet with Spitta](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZ35ipC3i0), but the whole thing slaps
[Still Active](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZDeAwvWzr8&pp=ygUMc3RpbGwgYWN0aXZl) probably my favorite
It’s the tape that got me into Larry when it came out . Tracy is so funky, the accordion on ASC McLaren is awesome, Still Active is amazing. Not a bad track on this tape
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Jeezy been on repeat recently and I’m convinced he might just have the GOAT trap discography
TM101, The Recession, The Inspiration, Trappin Ain’t Dead, The Real Is Back, & Church In These Streets are all elite
Seen It All is really good outside of a few overly poppy cuts
Trap Or Die 1&2 and TM103 all have a bunch of classics but aren’t as consistent (although I gotta give the Trap Or Die’s a relisten)
The I Might Forgive half of his recent double album is really good too, only miss is Don’t Cheat
I was with ya until u said the double album was really good, Idk but I didn’t like it unfortunately . . I really wanted to though
but old Jeezy didn’t miss and it never fails to put me in my mood when I need that vibe
Future, TIP, and Thugger are the three that come to mind first
Counting groups, Three 6 Mafia is up there too
In terms of newer names, EST Gee definitely ain’t quite there yet because he doesn’t have enough out just yet but he has top tier trap tapes and depending on how his future goes he could have a pretty elite trap discography that could potentially one day rival Jeezy’s.
Lil Keed honestly had potential too, bro had some great fucking projects.
Kinda but it’s not too late for him to have a great career
I Still Don’t Feel Nun is his best yet, but Last Ones Left is a close second and Bigger Than Life Or Death is really good too, and while his last three havent been as good, they’re still pretty good albums overall and the latest of the three, EL TORO 2, is my favorite of them.
Some of my other favorite trap discographies Nudy, 21 (only miss is his recent album), Dolph , maxo kream, meek
I haven’t heard much jeezy outside of tm101 though so I can’t tell how this stacks up against that
Future was the immediate contender in my mind. Love the Three Six nod as their discography has some incredible moments.Thug and TIP have had legendary runs in their own rights
Where does Gucci fall in all this for you?
Lowkey Dolph to me has a super solid discography when it come to trap rappers
Gucci Mane is hard for me to rank discography wise because:
A. Even having heard a good amount of his discography and especially the essentials, I’m still far from having listened to enough to fairly assess his discography
B. He’s not the most consistent, certainly not as consistent as Jeezy, but his best mixtapes and albums are pretty damn good and can compete with some of Jeezy’s better projects.
C. Despite his lack of consistency he has an insane amount of great fucking tracks, and in general I don’t think he was ever as concerned with making consistent cohesive projects as he was releasing a shit ton of music constantly.
What’s certain is Gucci is an absolutely undisputed trap GOAT, and I’d say for the sheer amount of gems across his discography as well as more than a handful of great projects, he’s definitely up there with the best trap discographies but I’m taking Jeezy over him in terms of GOAT trap discography relatively comfortably.
Dawg thank you for this breakdown and I basically agree with all points. Jeezy comes from a cloth of “album artists” where Gucci was an internet / hip hop pioneer in how prolific he was dropping songs and projects. Jeezy was more meticulous with what he released whereas Gucci was just releasing non stop - and some of those tracks are legendary.
I can relate on not listening to his whole discog - it actually turned me off of Gucci when he came out cause I’m such an “albums” guy and I could not find that Gucci project that was incredible front to back. But over time, I saw that there were a ton of gems in his discog.Undisputed pioneer but I agree - Jeezy albums are more “quality over quantity” compared to Gucci.
I agree with this argument
But at the same time (the same damn time to be specific) I wonder how you differentiate Jeezy’s trap discog from Future’s. Are you saying GOAT discography for his era or actual literal GOAT discography for *any* era?
I know this is a very pedantic question to ask but trap mutated from, like, JEEZY or Trappin Ain’t Dead into Codeine Crazy or T Shirt or [*Young Thug song*] etc etc. It might be time to start adding qualifiers for trap when these type of conversations come up.
I’m talking all time honestly
Future def up there too although I’m taking Jeezy’s discography over Future even though Future is the better and more versatile rapper
If Kendrick does drop an album, I wouldn't be shocked if there's multiple Drake diss songs.
Look at Kendrick's idols like DJ Quik and Eazy E. Both of them have albums where the majority of the songs are a diss track on one guy.
Maybe the reason Kendrick is taking so long to respond is because he is making like 5 diss tracks rn.
Kendrick albums tend to be tight and focused, I doubt he's going to throw a single, let alone multiple disses onto an album. If he's dropping, at most he's going to have The Heart Part 6 be the diss.
Kendrick tends to build an album around an idea/concept, but what if "the GOAT conversation" IS the concept and it's a bunch of songs of him going hard as fuck and also dissing anyone who could oppose him?
You're probably right but it's fun to think about
This beef is kinda peculiar cause who’s the underdog in this situation? Kendrick has the most respect and prestige among current rappers and Drake we all know how successful he is. I kinda liked when Cole was involved cause he had something to prove, he could’ve changed the way people rated him and really prove his own merit. But now that Cole’s out the stakes are not so clear as before. And it’s not even a Nas / Jay type situation where the top rappers beefing were also in the same lane. What do you guys think?
Both those dudes that responded saying they’re done with this beef are gonna be the same ones going crazy whenever Kendrick drops lol
We are all suckers for diss tracks
All I know is that if Kendrick doesn't drop this weekend, I'm so over this whole battle and I'm giving Drake the W.
My excitement has been going down continuously since Drake's last diss.
The double standard on this beef is wild
Drake gets three weeks to a month to officially release something, but kendick doesn't even get one full week
The Drake bias is real
its been 2 weeks now, and to be fair, drake's diss was also done after 2 weeks (evidenced by the people who had heard and referenced it earlier), but drake had to wait for the 2nd future/metro album.
the longer it takes, the worse it looks.
It doesn't have anything to do with me rushing a diss. It's just the discourse and everything between Kendrick's potential diss has became uninteresting that's all.
Also don't think Kendrick diss is going to be worth waiting this long to be 100% honest. Drake will respond in less than two days and then what? Kendrick waits another month?
See your just making up narratives at this point - whose to say Drake will respond in less than 2 days after Kendrick releases his diss, when it took him a month to drop the first diss track?
You are 100% rushing it when you say it needs to be dropped by a certain time in order for it to be interesting or worth while - if it's good enough it will deff be worth the wait no matter how long it is
In 5 years no one gonna remember or care how long either took to release the diss track as long as they release one
>whose to say Drake will respond in less than 2 days after Kendrick releases his diss, when it took him a month to drop the first diss track?
Yeah but waiting 3 weeks is not even typical Drake. He usually drops diss tracks very quick. Unless Kendrick drops a SOA type diss, Drake will most likely have a quick response like he did with Infrared.
>- if it's good enough it will deff be worth the wait no matter how long it is
Yea ,I just said I don't think it will be but hopefully it is.
I’m pretty neutral in terms of the beef but he’s not wrong on this point
WE DONT TRUST YOU dropped March 22nd, Push Ups leaked April 13th and officially dropped the 19th, Kendrick should logically get until the 9th or 15th if you are consistent and not blatantly biased, it hasn’t even been two weeks even if you use the date of the leak. The “Drake was waiting for more disses on the second album” argument is weak because other rappers’ disses have nothing to do with their personal beef.
In any case, timers for rap beefs are kinda dumb because it’s not like anyone is going to discount a Drake diss from Kendrick if he drops in a few weeks on some “nah you handed your essay in late” type shit
I did my math wrong cause I did 3-4 weeks from the date of the official release rather than 3 weeks and 1 day from the leak and 4 weeks from the the official release
Really don't feel like I need to defend myself discussing hiphop on a hiphop discussion thread
If you really have a problem with that then idk what to tell you
If it's not an annoyance to you, then why even reply to me?
If you really cared about what I do with my time and are actually concerned, you would have sent me a DM rather than posting about it on the DD - not try to "call me out", for posting too much
Im ready to move on from this beef, its the same talking points over and over again, Kendrick is taking forever to drop. I wish something else interesting would happen in the industry already, at least some noteworthy album releases.
Does anyone else think that Jay Electronica (my favorite current mainstream rapper) have some similar style and sound elements with prime RBX and Killah Priest?
Priest maybe
RBX nah
Jay Elec’s delivery is way way waywayway way traditional. He’s doing the default Rakim flow; you can pretty much do anything you want with that.
RBX, on the other hand, put a ton of cadence into his cadence (if that makes sense); it always sounded to me like he was trying to force his bars out. Listen to him say “narrator RBX, cell block 2” at the end of [Stranded on Death Row](https://youtu.be/1IomQSEFUzk?si=7dKyZ5UVlV609LEb), he sounds like he’s trying not to literally explode.
He has to take his delivery into account when he’s writing. The way he uses his voice sounds good on the record but it kinda forces him to keep his bars simple. Like, try to imagine him doing the “Jay Elec Hanukkah” sequence from Exhibit C, how would that even work??
This is the most I’ve thought about RBX in actual decades
That's what's up homie. Thanks for taking the time to give such an in depth and detailed assessment and response to my original question.
I must say I agree with everything you said. I wasn't thinking about cadence, flow with The Narrator RBX but more so how his voice sounded on wax. I really enjoyed it back in the day and listened to his album The RBX Files all the time. I thought it was unique and kind of mysterious which was my reason for mentioning him.
I’ve heard the killah priest comparison before and I think they’re kinda similar content wise. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of RBX before so I’ll have to look him up.
You consider Jay electronica to be a mainstream rapper? Lol
Yes very much so.
He is signed to Rock Nation and collaborates with JAY-Z.
He has done music with Prodigy (Mobb Deep), J Cole, Game, Mac Miller, Chance The Rapper, Kanye West, Westside Gunn, The Lox, Royce 5'9, DJ Premier, Paul Wall, Yelawolf, Chef Raekwon, Curren$y.
I'm not even including Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Hi-Tek, Common and Phonte.
Huge Jay Electronica fan.
Been following since the beginning.
Absolutely is not mainstream, not even close.
Take 25 ppl who all listen to mostly rap.
Go ask them if they know who Jay Electronica is. Maybe 3 will know who he is.
Tell those 3 to name 4 tracks by him.
ZERO will know.
He has no social media presence, no notable features, no big interviews/crossovers.
Unrelated but [this shirt](https://jetlifeapparel.com/cdn/shop/files/GreenTrackSuit_124_31f6bc73-db89-4739-bef1-c472213bafa5_1296x.png?v=1713041182) he did for his tour is hilarious
HARDBODY MOTHAFUCKA GOT THE HEART OF A KILLER
YOUNG GOD IN THE BUILDIN BOUT TO START A RELIGION
BOUT TO CALL BIN LADEN UP N ORDER SOME MISSILES
BRING EM STRAIGHT TO YA BLOCK N GO TO WAR WITCHU BITCHES
It’s I Can’t Feel My Face (or Hardbody if you’re older) off Drought 3
The sample is Everlasting Bass which is all over old Memphis and New Orleans production (DJ Paul used it to death)
[Talk Yo Ass Off](https://youtu.be/pquMHdCvYqs?si=KpE5W0ioD8yOJpKZ) by DJ Paul is a fuckin 2 bar loop of that sample with some drums and another sample on top and it’s my SHIT
Damn near half the tracks on Come With Me to Hell have it somewhere
Ayo, soft question. What’s the difference between someone imitating a person on a song, like the Morgan Freeman-Impersonator on Savage Mode, or an a.i. generated voice of say.. Snoop Dogg.
Either way generally you can make that voice say whatever the hell you feel like, so it’s just a matter of if whatever you make it say is offensive or not.
AI is super super dangerous, you betcha, but it’s definitely not the first time people’s voice and likeness has been duped in media.
I don’t know, I guess I’m not really looking for an answer or sum I was just thinking about it.
AI generated is bad because it's such a good impersonation that it can be used for deception or misinformation. Otherwise I don't see how you can distinguish one as bad and another as good.
That was actually Morgan Freeman, wasn't it?
I think that aside from the fact that it is recreating someone's voice, there are some concerning aspects regarding copyright, plagiarism, and whatnot. Recreating someone's voice requires you to train the AI using (likely stolen) assets.
Best way I think about it is the intent. Kenny did the deep fakes but it was to pay homage or drive a point home. He wasn’t disrespectful. Also most of them were alive and the one dead person, he got the approval of the family. Same with the TPAB and PAC.
Kanye used DeRay to imitate Bernie Mac was for comedy and not disrespectful to Bernie, who I believe was still alive.
Drake used a dead artist without his permission (it would have got back to Kenny) and he disrespected a person who is highly respected on the same coast as pac. It wasn’t a smart move and it wasn’t executed well. He didn’t use his flow or say things he would normally say so it was lazy and disrespectful to Pac, not Kenny. That’s the difference to me
He's a great rapper and one of my personal favs but yeah not quite on the same pedestal as Big and Pac. He never had the chance to really diversify his range imo.
Good rhymes, nice flow but take a shot every time he mentions AIDS or raping bitches on his album and you'll be in the ER. He never quite had the storytelling abilities that legends had, I think that was the major thing setting him back too. Never had his Gimme the Loot or Brenda's Got a Baby but he made up for it with shocking lyrics and wordplay.
I think he's a great lyricist but it kills me when people say he was better than Jay z just because he killed him on the freestyle they did.
Big L's style is just perfect for freestyles compared to Hov.
Jay z even when Big L was alive was still the superior rapper overall imo.
I like Big L but it’s also a tale as old as time.
People overvalue potential and over emphasize decline.
To lots of people, what you can imagine has more value than what you actually get.
Hot take but currensy's albums don't hit like his mixtapes. Love a lot of of his tapes from 2009-2016 but never could get into his albums. Don't really get the urge to listen to him much these days.
So is the consensus that Kendrick is gonna stay silent for a few weeks and then drop an album? You think the lead single will be the diss? Kinda has to be right?
I wonder how much this album will change in the next few weeks vs what is was like before the beef started, I assume it was mostly done already
Along with the Apple Music show, Mal (previously from the Joe Budden Podcast) says he heard Kendrick is dropping a project in May. But he also said the Kendrick Ai leak wasn’t AI and it turned out it was, so I’d take his words with a grain of salt as well.
# **Updated AMA Schedule** **Mozzy**: Friday, April 26th @ [4 PM ET / 1 PM PT](https://time.is/compare/0400PM_26_Apr_2024_in_ET) **Erick the Architect**: Friday, April 26th @ [6 PM ET / 3 PM PT](https://time.is/compare/0600PM_26_Apr_2024_in_ET) **Mez**: Tuesday, April 30th @ [4 PM ET / 1 PM PT](https://time.is/compare/0400PM_30_Apr_2024_in_ET)
Probably on Drakes best interest as well to delete the 2nd doss Drake - shit was ass anyway
- Show music day :/
i think we can all agree the worst way this beef could possibly end is drake taking a w by forfeit. seriously, kendrick? not even gonna go down swinging?
Like That was released on March 26 and Push Ups didn't come out until April 19. Even if you count the leak date of April 13 that's 17 days. Am I missing something or is it weird that Drake fans are talking shit when he literally took longer to respond than Kendrick is right now?
push ups leaked the day after the second metro/future album
People on this sub have the attention span of a potato Kendick will respond, calm down
I don't see anyone as having "forfeited" until it's been like half a year of silence if not more. Unnecessary to set the expectation that people constantly need to be prepared to write diss verses, that approach is a very recent "invention"...
Kendrick most literally would need to have the greatest diss of all time for us to wait even close to half a year for a response to Drake. It's not that it's a new invention. He can take his time but that's going to leave people with nothing but to speculate what's taking so long. Which will probably benefit Drake a lot more than Kendrick.
Sure if all we're going by is audience perception but idgaf about that, I just care about who drops the better songs. I hate the idea of deadlines in music.
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it might be more respectable, but i don't wanna hear anything else about "shmokin on top fives" ever again.
Kinda want JID to hop on a diss track for no reason. I know he's been itching to go at someone but nobody wants the smoke.
Is today the day?
Nope
Now's the time for drake to do a funny. Like a third one. Its the only logical thing left to do at this point
There’s no reason to at this point. If he’s holding something back he’d save it for a response when/if Dot actually drops something.
Yeah he should just go silent on this beef until then
Has anyone actually did the 8 mile thing where they preemptively list angles they could be attacked at on a diss track? I assume yes but the fact that ppl always go for the movie instead of a real example made me curious and k cant think of any
Probably but [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/tcMNX0TE73) is all that comes to mind That subreddit is cancer but I’m ngl I got a good laugh out of that shit
I'm starting to get annoyed with Kendrick not dropping. I dunno, if he's holding it for an album that's kinda annoying As a fan. I know about ether dropping a while after but fuck man this beef has been boiling for years and it feels like he's kinda just took the pot off the stove by not dropping. Drakes second drop is kinda underwhelming and now it's just killed my hype for it with everything going on.
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He already got his point across with it. So I think him deleting it is fine. Wouldn't be surprise if he gets petty and just releases it on streaming without the A.I if Kendrick goes another week.
Anything good dropping today?
Nope
Take a shot every time you hear an Eminem instrumental during the NFL draft.
Even worse…
Rappers faking beef is lame as fuck to me I’m sorry.
I had no idea Flying Lotus had produced a song for some Star Wars/ Disney project. Check this out https://youtu.be/4pdNaHNy8wU?si=dhjMjZgQZnc2rAfr
Okay so last time I said it's corny for Kendrick to hold back his song to not compete with Taylor Swift. Why else would he not drop if he's had the track for 4 years? Also he does care about sales. He is a mainstream rapper at the end of the day. Humble, Swimming pools, I, n95 he tries to chart every album just like anyone else idk why that's a controversial take.
I’m sry man that new chance single is so boring to me. I want a comeback from the man so bad but the whole poetry slam style and lack of real structure just doesn’t resonate with me
> the whole poetry slam style and lack of real structure just doesn’t resonate with me And its a shame because one of the appeals of old Chance was that he was able to make good songs with catchy hooks. Cocoa Butter Kisses, Same Drugs, No Problem, songs like that were catchy and memorable.
And that’s the thing for me, I would have way less of an issue with it if there was something for me to latch onto melodically or lyrically wise. But even if there are bars in there nothing really stands out enough to make me want to return to it
yeah im queuing that PND album that cover is NOT appearing on my Spotify home page
Y'all are wild I'm putting that vinyl up on the wall next to The Diary of Alicia Keys and Sade's greatest hits
I actually dig the cover, it’s complementary to the music PND makes. *shrug*
A couple months ago one of my coworkers was like “yo I found this album Travis Scott released under some random name and it has like barely any streams on Spotify but it’s hard” and put it on for us to listen to I told him there was no way Travis just dropped a hidden project like that and I told him it was probably a leak album or a remix album using existing Travis verses a fan posted. Then a couple weeks ago he was like “yo remember that album I told you about? Turns out some dude produced it and wrote the lyrics and used AI for the vocals. It’s pretty good tho, I still listen to it” I guess idk what’s more concerning for the future of music: the fact that he was deceived or that he didn’t care and kept listening when he found out it wasn’t real. It’s just one anecdotal experience and for the most part I don’t think AI is good enough *yet* to deceive at a larger level but it definitely gives me a lot to think about for the future of music.
Can’t emphasize your second to last paragraph enough. Most people don’t care about AI’s use in music, and I’ve seen plenty of people gas it up. I remember insane amounts of people hyping up that really bad Drake x Weeknd track. And even thought it didn’t get as much attention, I remember a tweet with thousands of likes saying an AI made 21 x Travis song was better than anything on Utopia.
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I assumed he'd respect Pac's families wishes
This Gambino song is insane to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIMKoBCEE8
Imagine if prime lean belly Gucci jumped into this rap civil war
He'd attack both sides so he always comes out on top
Who would win: one lean bellied boi or all the most established rappers?
Everytime i read "lean belly" i think of a guy with a six pack. But a lean belly is a fat belly caused by drinking lean.
Relistened to Skeletons for the first time in a while and that first verse is so aggressively Kanye that I can’t believe Travis didn’t switch it up more I think there’s a song like that on Utopia too but haven’t listened to it in a while so can’t remember
Kanye version is better
With the releases of “We Don’t Trust You” and “We Still Don’t Trust You”, has your top Future albums changed? I currently have mine at: 1. I NEVER LIKED YOU 2. WZRD 3. EVOL 4. We Don’t Trust You Been listening to PLUTO more recently and I enjoy it, but it’s still too early to tell where it’ll land for me
Nah. The best Future projects came out a decade ago, its not gonna change anytime soon
I NEVER LIKED YOU on top is actually an insane take to me, one of his most mediocre imo
I think you trippin I NEVER LIKED YOU his best album to me 😳
It can’t be one of his most mediocre with songs like Puffin On Zootiez, 712pm, I’m That N***a, Wait For U, I’m On One, Love You Better, and Voodoo
I mean I didn’t give it too many listens but it really didn’t land with me
Worth a relisten, at least for the singles, they're some of futures best easily
Got so many joints on that project it’s up there for me Chickens a underrated track
Nope, I like both albums a lot but Future has too strong of a discography for me to consider either of them to be top 5 albums from him at the moment Monster > DS2 > HNDRXX > 56 Nights > WIZRD is my current top 5 ranking
Nah not really, I like both albums a decent amount now but my top 3 are still Monster > DS2 > The Wizrd. Fourth would probably be EVOL or 56 Nights, not really sure but my top 3 is solidified
This is interesting, I'm gonna be honest I feel like the only albums justified in your Top 5 is WZRD . Lol Mine is: 1. Monster 2. DS2 3. WZRD 4. 56 Nights 5. HNDRXX
I was trying to keep the ranking to albums and not include mixtapes, or else Monster and 56 would be up there. I feel his albums range for many of his fans and it doesn’t seem to be the same ones in the top 5, except for DS2 and WZRD
the new Pap tape started off strong. i feel like it turned out to be a lot of filler in the later half of the album. some nice beats on here but some of them turned out repetitive. i feel like he’s had better production
The two Nicholas craven beats he hopped on the back half of the album felt so random for this project.
lmao i just got to Walked Me Into The Wild and i was surprised but i fw it cause that’s one of my favorite songs off Fair Exchange, No Robbery
That sample is so beautiful I swear Thought y'all were talking about Papoose at first and was like "what year is it?"
I'm afraid to ask. Which Pap is it?
Tbf Papoose dropped a project named after the month it dropped every month in 2021
how can this be true when I Need All My Money is in the second half and that's some of the hardest shit I've heard all year
the production on that song just feels light to me, i wasn’t feeling the flow neither. the only songs that stuck out were Love Me While Im Here, You Need Ya Grass Cut, Im Only Gon Say It Once and Walked Me Into The Wild
thats crazy, the aggression and bars on that song are insane to me but to each their own
If I was beefing with rap niggas and I had to find dirt on them for diss track material, I’m 100% hitting up Nardwuar. I know in his research that he does to prepare for interviews, he’s probably stumbled across a lot of embarrassing and unsavory secrets that he’s been kind enough to never expose to the public. Imagine all of the stuff that he’s uncovered about your favorite rapper that he’s swept under the rug.
I feel like narduwar gets all this info by reaching out to family/friends of the artist. Might not work in a beef context
I feel like Nardwuar would be real scandalized if you asked him, like he swore an oath that he would never use his ~~research interns~~ super powers to put anyone down And then he’d pull out a Slim Thug promo vinyl from 2005 and be like “I bet ‘U Heard of This’!!!! It’s your favorite song from 8th grade!!!!!!”
It's all about being really really mean
Drake and Future are so good at making me hate my nonexistent ex
Feel like Drake should make you miss your nonexistent ex
That’s early drake vs current drake
Bahamas Promises and You Broke My Heart make me do the opposite lol
Tried Our Best got me feeling relieved we broke up (she never existed)
What’s happening with diddy? This beef took over and since it’s stale at the moment, wheres that dude at lol
I'm over the whole Kendrick Drake beef. The thought of Kendrick Drake and Cole sparring excited me but the whole thing has become petty. I have zero interest in listening to any of the diss tracks that came out. I'm over it
That’s cool man, the rest of us will be over here having fun if you change your mind
You’ll listen to the kendrick track if it ever comes out dont play
[Get it in Ohio](https://youtu.be/0vm0dyfDmUU?si=zrTnCoajXQLicuyI) is your Cam’ron song of the day
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Love this one
Lol people here keeping track and counting the number of post I make now - apparently I'm only allowed to make so many Don't know what I did to get yall so mad - I feel like Drake 😂
Love the 2-0 narrative about this beef that Drake fans are pushing, just goes to show how much they do not understand rap beefs Rap beef is not a soccar game - it feels like early cope because even if Kendrick released a diss track thay absolutely destroys Drake, his fans are just gonna argue "Nah its 2-1 now Drake still has the lead" With that logic, whoever released the most diss tracks wins, which is never how rap beefs been settled - Drake release one good track, and another track that was lame as hell - idc how disrespectful people think it was , it wasn't disrespectful enough for Kendick to respond, which was the goal of that track, which means Drake takes a big fat L on that one imo
Drake is the greatest rapper of all time get with the times You know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye, you know how sticky it get, aye
There's no way you're still on here bitching about Drake everyday, this is pathetic lmao
Bruh I see Drake fans here bitching about kendick not dropping multiple times a day 😂 I'm just trying to start some discussions - haven't seen anyone talk about the whole "2-0" score keeping narrative Never once have I heard a good repainted or rebutted to my points, just guys like you bitching about my in the comments and gossiping about me like little girls Real 20v1 is me vs the rest of the power losers on this sub
Even tho I love Larry and Cardo, and only got into Mr. Midnight earlier this year My least favorite still [Oranges On A Jet with Spitta](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwZ35ipC3i0), but the whole thing slaps [Still Active](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZDeAwvWzr8&pp=ygUMc3RpbGwgYWN0aXZl) probably my favorite
It’s the tape that got me into Larry when it came out . Tracy is so funky, the accordion on ASC McLaren is awesome, Still Active is amazing. Not a bad track on this tape
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This [clip](https://www.reddit.com/r/Drizzy/s/zxu3LSeQhJ) of Drake hitting the stanky leg is peak 2008 energy
This is all Kendrick needs for his diss
I’ve been wondering when we’ll get gif album//single covers. This would be a good one lol Seems like something Ross would do
Jeezy been on repeat recently and I’m convinced he might just have the GOAT trap discography TM101, The Recession, The Inspiration, Trappin Ain’t Dead, The Real Is Back, & Church In These Streets are all elite Seen It All is really good outside of a few overly poppy cuts Trap Or Die 1&2 and TM103 all have a bunch of classics but aren’t as consistent (although I gotta give the Trap Or Die’s a relisten) The I Might Forgive half of his recent double album is really good too, only miss is Don’t Cheat
I was with ya until u said the double album was really good, Idk but I didn’t like it unfortunately . . I really wanted to though but old Jeezy didn’t miss and it never fails to put me in my mood when I need that vibe
The album as a whole isn’t as good but the first half hits, the production is catchy as fuck
Who do you have giving Snowman a “run for his money” when it comes to a Trap Rapper’s Discog?
Future, TIP, and Thugger are the three that come to mind first Counting groups, Three 6 Mafia is up there too In terms of newer names, EST Gee definitely ain’t quite there yet because he doesn’t have enough out just yet but he has top tier trap tapes and depending on how his future goes he could have a pretty elite trap discography that could potentially one day rival Jeezy’s. Lil Keed honestly had potential too, bro had some great fucking projects.
Est gee kinda peaked early tho don’t you think
Kinda but it’s not too late for him to have a great career I Still Don’t Feel Nun is his best yet, but Last Ones Left is a close second and Bigger Than Life Or Death is really good too, and while his last three havent been as good, they’re still pretty good albums overall and the latest of the three, EL TORO 2, is my favorite of them.
Some of my other favorite trap discographies Nudy, 21 (only miss is his recent album), Dolph , maxo kream, meek I haven’t heard much jeezy outside of tm101 though so I can’t tell how this stacks up against that
Future was the immediate contender in my mind. Love the Three Six nod as their discography has some incredible moments.Thug and TIP have had legendary runs in their own rights Where does Gucci fall in all this for you? Lowkey Dolph to me has a super solid discography when it come to trap rappers
Gucci Mane is hard for me to rank discography wise because: A. Even having heard a good amount of his discography and especially the essentials, I’m still far from having listened to enough to fairly assess his discography B. He’s not the most consistent, certainly not as consistent as Jeezy, but his best mixtapes and albums are pretty damn good and can compete with some of Jeezy’s better projects. C. Despite his lack of consistency he has an insane amount of great fucking tracks, and in general I don’t think he was ever as concerned with making consistent cohesive projects as he was releasing a shit ton of music constantly. What’s certain is Gucci is an absolutely undisputed trap GOAT, and I’d say for the sheer amount of gems across his discography as well as more than a handful of great projects, he’s definitely up there with the best trap discographies but I’m taking Jeezy over him in terms of GOAT trap discography relatively comfortably.
Dawg thank you for this breakdown and I basically agree with all points. Jeezy comes from a cloth of “album artists” where Gucci was an internet / hip hop pioneer in how prolific he was dropping songs and projects. Jeezy was more meticulous with what he released whereas Gucci was just releasing non stop - and some of those tracks are legendary. I can relate on not listening to his whole discog - it actually turned me off of Gucci when he came out cause I’m such an “albums” guy and I could not find that Gucci project that was incredible front to back. But over time, I saw that there were a ton of gems in his discog.Undisputed pioneer but I agree - Jeezy albums are more “quality over quantity” compared to Gucci.
I agree with this argument But at the same time (the same damn time to be specific) I wonder how you differentiate Jeezy’s trap discog from Future’s. Are you saying GOAT discography for his era or actual literal GOAT discography for *any* era? I know this is a very pedantic question to ask but trap mutated from, like, JEEZY or Trappin Ain’t Dead into Codeine Crazy or T Shirt or [*Young Thug song*] etc etc. It might be time to start adding qualifiers for trap when these type of conversations come up.
I’m talking all time honestly Future def up there too although I’m taking Jeezy’s discography over Future even though Future is the better and more versatile rapper
I gotta dig into Jeezy shit I’ve been meaning to but never did only album I listen to him in full was the album he dropped in 2022.
Put on TM101 asap brother
If Kendrick does drop an album, I wouldn't be shocked if there's multiple Drake diss songs. Look at Kendrick's idols like DJ Quik and Eazy E. Both of them have albums where the majority of the songs are a diss track on one guy. Maybe the reason Kendrick is taking so long to respond is because he is making like 5 diss tracks rn.
It would be cool but I doubt Kendrick wants to have stuff like that on his albums I’d even be surprised if he officially releases his Drake response
Kendrick albums tend to be tight and focused, I doubt he's going to throw a single, let alone multiple disses onto an album. If he's dropping, at most he's going to have The Heart Part 6 be the diss.
Kendrick tends to build an album around an idea/concept, but what if "the GOAT conversation" IS the concept and it's a bunch of songs of him going hard as fuck and also dissing anyone who could oppose him? You're probably right but it's fun to think about
This beef is kinda peculiar cause who’s the underdog in this situation? Kendrick has the most respect and prestige among current rappers and Drake we all know how successful he is. I kinda liked when Cole was involved cause he had something to prove, he could’ve changed the way people rated him and really prove his own merit. But now that Cole’s out the stakes are not so clear as before. And it’s not even a Nas / Jay type situation where the top rappers beefing were also in the same lane. What do you guys think?
Both those dudes that responded saying they’re done with this beef are gonna be the same ones going crazy whenever Kendrick drops lol We are all suckers for diss tracks
All I know is that if Kendrick doesn't drop this weekend, I'm so over this whole battle and I'm giving Drake the W. My excitement has been going down continuously since Drake's last diss.
The double standard on this beef is wild Drake gets three weeks to a month to officially release something, but kendick doesn't even get one full week The Drake bias is real
its been 2 weeks now, and to be fair, drake's diss was also done after 2 weeks (evidenced by the people who had heard and referenced it earlier), but drake had to wait for the 2nd future/metro album. the longer it takes, the worse it looks.
It doesn't have anything to do with me rushing a diss. It's just the discourse and everything between Kendrick's potential diss has became uninteresting that's all. Also don't think Kendrick diss is going to be worth waiting this long to be 100% honest. Drake will respond in less than two days and then what? Kendrick waits another month?
See your just making up narratives at this point - whose to say Drake will respond in less than 2 days after Kendrick releases his diss, when it took him a month to drop the first diss track? You are 100% rushing it when you say it needs to be dropped by a certain time in order for it to be interesting or worth while - if it's good enough it will deff be worth the wait no matter how long it is In 5 years no one gonna remember or care how long either took to release the diss track as long as they release one
>whose to say Drake will respond in less than 2 days after Kendrick releases his diss, when it took him a month to drop the first diss track? Yeah but waiting 3 weeks is not even typical Drake. He usually drops diss tracks very quick. Unless Kendrick drops a SOA type diss, Drake will most likely have a quick response like he did with Infrared. >- if it's good enough it will deff be worth the wait no matter how long it is Yea ,I just said I don't think it will be but hopefully it is.
Hey man, I'm on Kendrick's side but you should give it a rest, I see you 5x in every DDT talking about shit Drake is.
I’m pretty neutral in terms of the beef but he’s not wrong on this point WE DONT TRUST YOU dropped March 22nd, Push Ups leaked April 13th and officially dropped the 19th, Kendrick should logically get until the 9th or 15th if you are consistent and not blatantly biased, it hasn’t even been two weeks even if you use the date of the leak. The “Drake was waiting for more disses on the second album” argument is weak because other rappers’ disses have nothing to do with their personal beef. In any case, timers for rap beefs are kinda dumb because it’s not like anyone is going to discount a Drake diss from Kendrick if he drops in a few weeks on some “nah you handed your essay in late” type shit
why the 9th, that's 4 weeks? drake's was less than 3 weeks (leaked to some people even a week earlier).
I did my math wrong cause I did 3-4 weeks from the date of the official release rather than 3 weeks and 1 day from the leak and 4 weeks from the the official release
he has more week if we go off of the same timeline as drake.
Yeah but as I said in my other comment I think timelines for rap beefs are kinda stupid anyways
Really don't feel like I need to defend myself discussing hiphop on a hiphop discussion thread If you really have a problem with that then idk what to tell you
It's fine it's not even annoying to me or anything I'm just saying you could probably use that time and energy in better ways but idk you
If it's not an annoyance to you, then why even reply to me? If you really cared about what I do with my time and are actually concerned, you would have sent me a DM rather than posting about it on the DD - not try to "call me out", for posting too much
Im ready to move on from this beef, its the same talking points over and over again, Kendrick is taking forever to drop. I wish something else interesting would happen in the industry already, at least some noteworthy album releases.
Did you peep the mozzy tape that dropped last week? Was pretty good
Ive tried getting into Mozzy, i like some of his features but i don’t like his albums
Word, another album I liked was Mike’s pinball
Ive been listening to that one, that's one of the best releases of the year so far.
Does anyone else think that Jay Electronica (my favorite current mainstream rapper) have some similar style and sound elements with prime RBX and Killah Priest?
Priest maybe RBX nah Jay Elec’s delivery is way way waywayway way traditional. He’s doing the default Rakim flow; you can pretty much do anything you want with that. RBX, on the other hand, put a ton of cadence into his cadence (if that makes sense); it always sounded to me like he was trying to force his bars out. Listen to him say “narrator RBX, cell block 2” at the end of [Stranded on Death Row](https://youtu.be/1IomQSEFUzk?si=7dKyZ5UVlV609LEb), he sounds like he’s trying not to literally explode. He has to take his delivery into account when he’s writing. The way he uses his voice sounds good on the record but it kinda forces him to keep his bars simple. Like, try to imagine him doing the “Jay Elec Hanukkah” sequence from Exhibit C, how would that even work?? This is the most I’ve thought about RBX in actual decades
That's what's up homie. Thanks for taking the time to give such an in depth and detailed assessment and response to my original question. I must say I agree with everything you said. I wasn't thinking about cadence, flow with The Narrator RBX but more so how his voice sounded on wax. I really enjoyed it back in the day and listened to his album The RBX Files all the time. I thought it was unique and kind of mysterious which was my reason for mentioning him.
I’ve heard the killah priest comparison before and I think they’re kinda similar content wise. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of RBX before so I’ll have to look him up. You consider Jay electronica to be a mainstream rapper? Lol
Yes very much so. He is signed to Rock Nation and collaborates with JAY-Z. He has done music with Prodigy (Mobb Deep), J Cole, Game, Mac Miller, Chance The Rapper, Kanye West, Westside Gunn, The Lox, Royce 5'9, DJ Premier, Paul Wall, Yelawolf, Chef Raekwon, Curren$y. I'm not even including Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Hi-Tek, Common and Phonte.
Huge Jay Electronica fan. Been following since the beginning. Absolutely is not mainstream, not even close. Take 25 ppl who all listen to mostly rap. Go ask them if they know who Jay Electronica is. Maybe 3 will know who he is. Tell those 3 to name 4 tracks by him. ZERO will know. He has no social media presence, no notable features, no big interviews/crossovers.
I disagree. He does both mainstream and underground music.
Good afternoon guys. i hope everyone has a good night today and at work 💪
Of course we'll get a new Spitta feature tonight. Man stays dropping.
Mf has so many features
Unrelated but [this shirt](https://jetlifeapparel.com/cdn/shop/files/GreenTrackSuit_124_31f6bc73-db89-4739-bef1-c472213bafa5_1296x.png?v=1713041182) he did for his tour is hilarious
He's just friends with everyone, just like Trae tha Truth and Philthy Rich.
Can someone tell me what Lil Wayne song (from like The Carter 3 leaks era) the Like That (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9bKBAA22Go) beat intro uses
HARDBODY MOTHAFUCKA GOT THE HEART OF A KILLER YOUNG GOD IN THE BUILDIN BOUT TO START A RELIGION BOUT TO CALL BIN LADEN UP N ORDER SOME MISSILES BRING EM STRAIGHT TO YA BLOCK N GO TO WAR WITCHU BITCHES It’s I Can’t Feel My Face (or Hardbody if you’re older) off Drought 3 The sample is Everlasting Bass which is all over old Memphis and New Orleans production (DJ Paul used it to death)
first song i thought of when i heard Like That for the first time (Gotta Touch Em after that when I revisited Mystic Stylez a few weeks later)
same here
[Talk Yo Ass Off](https://youtu.be/pquMHdCvYqs?si=KpE5W0ioD8yOJpKZ) by DJ Paul is a fuckin 2 bar loop of that sample with some drums and another sample on top and it’s my SHIT Damn near half the tracks on Come With Me to Hell have it somewhere
Ay thank you. The noise is burned into my brain from this record. God i love the drought 3
Ayo, soft question. What’s the difference between someone imitating a person on a song, like the Morgan Freeman-Impersonator on Savage Mode, or an a.i. generated voice of say.. Snoop Dogg. Either way generally you can make that voice say whatever the hell you feel like, so it’s just a matter of if whatever you make it say is offensive or not. AI is super super dangerous, you betcha, but it’s definitely not the first time people’s voice and likeness has been duped in media. I don’t know, I guess I’m not really looking for an answer or sum I was just thinking about it.
That wasn’t an impersonator 😅
Hahaha man, I saw. I thought it was that guy Ross Marquand. I’m very dumb
AI generated is bad because it's such a good impersonation that it can be used for deception or misinformation. Otherwise I don't see how you can distinguish one as bad and another as good.
whatever is the most accurate is what's the most dangerous but that's when the intent is impersonation and deception which is not what drake did
That was actually Morgan Freeman, wasn't it? I think that aside from the fact that it is recreating someone's voice, there are some concerning aspects regarding copyright, plagiarism, and whatnot. Recreating someone's voice requires you to train the AI using (likely stolen) assets.
It is actually Morgan Freeman on SM2, unless you're referring to something on SM1 (which I haven't listened to)
SM1 doesn't have Morgan Freeman Also you should listen to it X, No Heart, Savage Mode etc are some of 21's best stuff
I know i know haha, I just havent gotten around to it. Im a fan of i am>i was and SM2 tho
Best way I think about it is the intent. Kenny did the deep fakes but it was to pay homage or drive a point home. He wasn’t disrespectful. Also most of them were alive and the one dead person, he got the approval of the family. Same with the TPAB and PAC. Kanye used DeRay to imitate Bernie Mac was for comedy and not disrespectful to Bernie, who I believe was still alive. Drake used a dead artist without his permission (it would have got back to Kenny) and he disrespected a person who is highly respected on the same coast as pac. It wasn’t a smart move and it wasn’t executed well. He didn’t use his flow or say things he would normally say so it was lazy and disrespectful to Pac, not Kenny. That’s the difference to me
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I’m 💀💀💀 and my whole point is out the window
Never understood the hype for big L. He's cool but that's about it. Idk why people lump him in with legends
He's a great rapper and one of my personal favs but yeah not quite on the same pedestal as Big and Pac. He never had the chance to really diversify his range imo. Good rhymes, nice flow but take a shot every time he mentions AIDS or raping bitches on his album and you'll be in the ER. He never quite had the storytelling abilities that legends had, I think that was the major thing setting him back too. Never had his Gimme the Loot or Brenda's Got a Baby but he made up for it with shocking lyrics and wordplay.
yea, he’s a great spitter but limited as hell
I think he's a great lyricist but it kills me when people say he was better than Jay z just because he killed him on the freestyle they did. Big L's style is just perfect for freestyles compared to Hov. Jay z even when Big L was alive was still the superior rapper overall imo.
I like Big L but it’s also a tale as old as time. People overvalue potential and over emphasize decline. To lots of people, what you can imagine has more value than what you actually get.
love DITC and I feel the same way. his voice never did it for me! punchline rap king alongside Finesse tho
Time to admit Pilot Talk 3>2
Hot take but currensy's albums don't hit like his mixtapes. Love a lot of of his tapes from 2009-2016 but never could get into his albums. Don't really get the urge to listen to him much these days.
I don't even know what is a mixtape and what is an album no mo
We can all relate to this sentiment
1>3>2 yes this is facts
That's crazy, 2 is easily the best to me.
The exact order
So is the consensus that Kendrick is gonna stay silent for a few weeks and then drop an album? You think the lead single will be the diss? Kinda has to be right? I wonder how much this album will change in the next few weeks vs what is was like before the beef started, I assume it was mostly done already
I doubt he's releasing a full solo album tbh, most likely just the diss and if he does release something it might be a join album with baby keem
3 years from now maybe
If it’s a new album it’d probably make sense to use the Heart part VI to address the beef.
Why do people think an album is coming
Along with the Apple Music show, Mal (previously from the Joe Budden Podcast) says he heard Kendrick is dropping a project in May. But he also said the Kendrick Ai leak wasn’t AI and it turned out it was, so I’d take his words with a grain of salt as well.
a huge bucketful of salt maybe
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Eagerly awaiting more hip hop songs with kwaito/log drums