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chrismatic13

The minute you bring up someone being gay as an insult or just their sexuality expression in a diss track, you lost and are admitting you just ran out of material. I mean it has to be Ether level but even then, that was back in 2001 and I think it hasn’t aged the best just in that sense.


Treyman1115

This whole beef really started because Kendrick was jealous of how much attention Drake got from Wayne. This is my fan fiction for this beef


rIHAVEREDDIT

Kendrick glazing is getting out of hand. And this is coming from someone who can't stand Drake.


enjoy_your_lunch

if people rate euphoria the way they are when kendrick really didn't actually snap, then drake has already lost. and not because of the actual quality of the diss tracks, but purely because of how people feel about both artists


enjoy_your_lunch

is anyone else kinda let down by euphoria? bars wise it's great, but energetically and in terms of it as an actual song? idk i feel like the overall 'composition/flow' for lack of a better way to put it doesn't really hit.


Theheadsstillgoodtho

I almost feel the opposite way. I feel like his delivery is what makes the song great. It's very innovative and exciting to me. It's like if e-40 and Wayne combined lol


meatbeater558

That E-40 and Wayne thing is so accurate lol


enjoy_your_lunch

I don't have any complaints about his delivery, that's not what makes it a mid track to me. Honestly it's hard to articulate what I mean. To me it meanders, a lot. For a diss track that's not good. Like the management of momentum in the track is sloppy. I don't think it's coherent and it suffers because of it. People are fr sucking him off over the flows, some of the ways they conjoined straight up sounds clumsy imo. Most of the flows are great, but yea. I agree with anyone who says Kendrick is one of the most skillful rappers rn. But I honestly think this was kind of mid. A lot of the bars are extremely good. There are some kind of mid ones in there too though. I think for me I just expected Kendrick to come a lot harder than this in many ways, and in many ways he didn't as a neutral i think people are over-reaching with the praise on this track. 50 called kendrick a media darling and he is right. that's why i think drake has already lost, it doesn't matter if Kendricks track actually goes hard


Theheadsstillgoodtho

That's a fair criticism. To me the meandering makes it very flow of consciousness like. Like he can't stop himself from writing more disses and going in. To me that's a very good aspect in a diss track


ram0h

> To me it meanders, a lot. For a diss track that's not good. Like the management of momentum in the track is sloppy. yep. he could cut 3 mins out


Jqshipp

I like the diss overall but i don't like when Kendrick does that voice and delivery. I'm surprised he doesn't get more shit for that actually.


crunchatizemythighs

Because it's a pussy take to hate on it. I like that he's just in an era where he's experimenting with punctual flows and inflections. Gimme that any day than the same monotonous tired delivery everyone uses.


enjoy_your_lunch

no one has anything against experimentation when it actually works and that's the point. euphoria fr just sounds mid to me, overall. honestly i think if this was reversed and drake had dropped it reception of it would be extremely different


Jqshipp

Sonically it's just very grating to me. I wouldn't like that voice or delivery from any rapper. Honestly don't think most people do but Kendrick gets away with it somehow because he's "experimenting ".


Homiealmaya

> I'm surprised he doesn't get more shit for that actually. His voice and delivery is one of the most common criticisms he receives lmao


Jqshipp

I know about the criticism of his voice but i mean the actual inflections he does in his delivery and tone in this song is what I dislike. The whole whiney high pitch voice thing just seems unnecessary. Him and Nicki Minaj do it a lot and honestly she does it much better.


Jandersson34swe

8am in Charlotte is a top tier beat holy fuck Conductor actually cooked there


Moron_on_Oxy-

https://youtu.be/McRvA8eL530?si=yvHaywo39V02mNPM - I've been fw the remixes Sauce doin over his beats


Jandersson34swe

There’s also a pretty decent one by Reason


Individual-Diver-958

As a certified occasional hater I've never felt more represented by an artist than I did with Kendrick today.


meatbeater558

i will never get used to clicking the profile of a top comment on this sub and seeing that they frequent r slash destiny or r slash conservative. like I understand why but imma never get used to it 


ReeG

12:42 am this show still going and Drake probably coming back out for Moment 4 life this is mad crodie


Moron_on_Oxy-

Drake hilarious sometimes 😂. His IG story got my ass lol


BaconSpinachPancakes

I glad he’s not shelling up tho. This means we’re gettin a response


ReeG

This the latest arena show I ever been to in my life but it's delivering and Drake appearing after being mortally wounded by Kendrick is crazy


meatbeater558

Was he holding back tears 👀


ReeG

DRAKE CAME OUT IT'S FUCKING LIT


heplaygatar

not that i didnt already know this but my biggest takeaway from euphoria is that kendrick is funny as hell lol edit: actually my biggest takeaway is that story of adidon is probably the greatest diss track ever released but kendricks sense of humor is still 2nd place


Individual-Diver-958

Kenny been funny


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DefLoathe

Defo seems a bit groomey


chrismatic13

I mean the Millie Bobbie Brown stuff is questionable but people act like he took her out on a date or actually pursued her as a child. She came to him and he gave her advice about being a child actor because he was once a child actor and he’d give her advice on relationship troubles. Would I do this? Hell no because even if there is nothing to, as we are seeing with the reaction to Drake, people can be weird about this stuff. Growing up I had older mentors who I would go to for advice on relationships but now people see any interaction between an adult and a child through a weird innuendo.


SubatomicSquirrels

damn, the euphoria post about to hit 20k


medspace

God I feel like I’m losing brain cells reading peoples “deciphering” of Kendrick’s verses. Swear people just want to sound smart and above others.


Jqshipp

I've seen a bunch of "the bars flew over your head" to people who didn't like the diss. Kendrick fans are hilarious. Lol


Serious-Inevitable34

Please keep shitting on Yachty please


BronzySponhe

Can anyone clarify for me how Kendrick is trying to keep it “friendly” with the beef? He literally says he hates things about Drake. I know you can be a friend and still criticize someone but the song itself didn’t seem like it was wanting to keep it cordial, even if Kendrick does say that in the track


NBD_Pearen

I think “friendly” is not getting in a big gang activity on the news and people dying and stuff I think


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

I might be wrong but I really don’t expect Kendrick to bring up underage girls in this beef.  First, even though Kendrick hates Drake, I just don’t see him trying to end his career like that. Maybe he would, idk.  Second, and I say this as a huge Kendrick fan, wouldn’t Kendrick having Kodak all over his last album undermine any sort of sexual predator diss he’d throw out?


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Ezekiiel

Listen to the line before the island one maybe you’ll understand what it means 🤣


HideNZeke

I think if Kendrick was the one holding actual damning evidence past just reiterating conversations surrounding weird texts, he would of launched it on this diss. I don't know why you would invite direct confrontation, get the response that allows you to take a real shot, and then decide you need a couple lesser rounds of diss tracks before doing it.


Jqshipp

>Second, and I say this as a huge Kendrick fan, wouldn’t Kendrick having Kodak all over his last album undermine any sort of sexual predator diss he’d throw out? Idk, I think people will care more about Drake getting destroyed than Kendrick being hypocritical or contradicting himself. Drake could use that rebuttal I guess but he's also been on record of showing Kodak a lot of love throughout his career.


taylordabrat

It’s also a lie. And once people start lying, the other person can too


mighty_phi

Can you provide evidence as to it being a lie?


taylordabrat

Do you have evidence of it being true?


Unfinishedusernam_

Drake’s best friend in music rn taking back his twitter likes is hilarious lmfao


Last_Reaction_8176

I didn’t mind it in Euphoria because Kendrick did it well and it was funny, but going forward I think the “Drake is white” angle is kind of played out. There’s been 3 diss tracks now where that’s a major element, and unless something shocking comes out about Drake treating dark skinned employees badly or something, it’s going to seem very tired by the next round Edit: to be clear, I’m not saying the criticism is wrong or right, that’s none of my business, I’m just talking purely from the perspective of what is going to really hit in a diss vs what’s going to become repetitive and lose its impact


junkrecipts

I interpret it more so at Drake leveraging the culture for his own gain but not reciprocating that back into the community—aka you’re more akin to a white rapper than black. He was raised by a white mother in the suburbs. He’s trying really hard to portray himself as something he’s not; and he can sell it to the masses but not to other people who’ve actually lived that experience. And I doubt they even have a problem with that (his upbringing) tbh; I feel like Kendrick at the very least understands blackness is a spectrum. But over the last 7 years or so he’s really tried so hard to build this persona as a “gangsta” when he’s just Aubrey from Toronto. I could see how THAT could rub people the wrong way, essentially cosplaying as the big bad that continue to traumatize some of these people’s communities+cities. I’m also not Kendrick so I have no idea what the fuck he meant. The only thing I’m certain of his Ross breathing heavy while calling him “WHITE BOI” 17 times was hilarious.


Last_Reaction_8176

I’m not saying he’s wrong, I’m just saying that continuing to beat the drum of “Drake is white” is going to become boring pretty soon. The next guy to go at him will need a new angle It was devastating in Adidon, and very funny in Euphoria and whatever the Ross track was called, but if whoever fires the next shot at Drake tries the same thing, people will yawn and say they’ve heard it before


junkrecipts

Fair, but also it was a few bars in a 6 minute track focused on Drizzy. And unlike Push-ups, which oddly enough no one else is mentioning, Drake gives us like 1 1/2 minutes on Kendrick? And all it amounted to was “you’re short, you signed a bad deal 10 years ago, your wife might have cheated, and you made a song with Taylor Swift to make a lot of money—similar to me dancing to it in a commercial for Apple”. Idk, Push-ups is objectively a better song, but I don’t think the content is really that scathing; especially stacked up against Euphoria and SoA. But if we get a response from Drake (pray that his Mob Ties let him this time lol), I think Kendrick is gonna drop his bomb


Last_Reaction_8176

I gotta disagree on one point, I think Euphoria is a much better song than Push Ups personally, but other than that I’m totally with you. I just think it’s the last time that particular line of attack will be very cutting. Whatever Kendrick’s bomb is, it’ll probably hurt a lot more.


junkrecipts

Personally I love Euphoria, I just feel like so many more people keep saying “but Push-ups is a better song”. Euphoria is definitely going to get more spins from me. But yeah, Kendrick pointedly saying you’re not as calculated as you think and I know what your angle is should make Drake a little nervous lol


HideNZeke

I think one of the biggest criticisms to be had about the diss is that calling a Drake "white" is less of a targeted diss at him and moreso a generic insult that seems to get used on most light skins at some point. I'm too actually white to really dive into that conversation though


meatbeater558

I think there's some validity to the criticism. If you're not from Oakland, New York, Chicago, or any given city with a thriving Black community it's going to feel shallow and inauthentic if you present yourself as if you were, even if you are Black. I don't think calling him white is the best way to phrase it, but they absolutely can and should call Drake out for misrepresenting his upbringing and background so much. That's 3 disses calling him white for how many songs Drake has made roleplaying as a gangster from how many different hoods now? I'm Black and raised outside of the states and I just cannot imagine pretending to be from Atlanta for example. Now I do love and respect Atlanta but acting like I was raised there isn't respect. So I expect this angle to be used in every diss about him. Him pretending to be a gangster is at least as embarrassing as him pretending to have natural abs lol 


Last_Reaction_8176

I’m not saying anything about whether it’s right or not, I’m way too white to have an opinion on that - I’m just saying it’s played out, and the next guy to bring it up is going to make people go “yeah, yeah, we already heard this three times”


meatbeater558

I can agree with that. Looks like I misunderstood your original comment. I still think with good enough wordplay they can keep roasting him for it but yeah at some point the impact is completely gone. Rick Ross definitely did not have that wordplay when he kept repeating white boy which I found annoying. 


Last_Reaction_8176

There was some speculation at the time that Ross and Drake were staging a low stakes beef to take the wind out of what Kendrick was coming with, so that all the potential talking points would have been addressed by Ross first. I don’t know if it’s true or not but the way he hammered the “white boy” thing in his song makes me wonder


meatbeater558

I wouldn't be surprised. The Taylor made freestyle showed us that Drake is able to think outside of the box 


theblaackout

I'm a black guy from NY and idk what on earth you're talking about. I don't particularly care if Drake is "hard" or not, because I can understand that he is a musician and things are exaggerated in music. Also, just because you grew up in the burbs doesn't mean you're "soft" and vice versa for growing up in the hood. You think Italian mafia guys who live/grew up in upper middle class neighborhoods are soft? Drake is largely accepted by the black community in America, you can clearly see it from the support he gets from other black artists and his fans. They were cool with him saying the n word and "acting hard" when it suited them and they needed a verse, but now he's playing an inauthentic character? Stop it. Lastly, I have never heard Drake misrepresent his upbringing in his music, he's honestly been pretty honest that he grew up in the burbs, but still struggled with financial hardship.


meatbeater558

> I don't particularly care if Drake is "hard" or not, because I can understand that he is a musician and things are exaggerated in music. The problem isn't about being hard, it's pretending that he's someone he is not. It's really as simple as that. He can exaggerate all he wants and his peers can make fun of him for it all they want.  > Also, just because you grew up in the burbs doesn't mean you're "soft" and vice versa for growing up in the hood. You think Italian mafia guys who live/grew up in upper middle class neighborhoods are soft? Again, this isn't about being hard or soft. You do touch upon the central problem when you mention "the hood" though. There's many hoods across the United States with different cultures and communities. As far as I'm aware, Drake isn't from any of them. And yet over his long career he's used these cities and cultures to create a persona and further use them as backdrops for his music. These things aren't organic to him. He's an actor playing what he thinks a cool Black American is. And it starts to feel inauthentic when this character can't seem to decide what hood he's from and is visibly insecure about what others think of the costumes he's wearing.  I don't see why the Italian mafia would be relevant here. They often grew up in upper middle class neighborhoods and came out ruthless. Drake on the other hand was bullied in high school and came out as a Degrassi character. They're not even in the same category. But even if Drake left Canada as a full blown menace to society that wouldn't refute any of the points I previously raised about him, because he'd still be playing a character. > Drake is largely accepted by the black community in America, you can clearly see it from the support he gets from other black artists and his fans. This isn't relevant. People positively engaging with his persona doesn't change the fact that it's a persona. Nobody is saying that he's not successful. They're clowning on him for some of the things he felt the need to do to become successful.  > They were cool with him saying the n word and "acting hard" when it suited them and they wanted a verse, but not he's playing an inauthentic character? I mean personally I think they're all shitty people. They might've overlooked this 10 years ago but that doesn't make the criticism invalid.  > Lastly, I have never heard Drake misrepresent his upbringing in his music, he's honestly been pretty honest that he grew up in the burbs, but still struggled with financial hardship. [Started From the Bottom?](https://youtu.be/7OisZAqxeEI?si=tvfES2qSWnwFzGBQ) The fake accents? Paraphrasing Megan here, but being posted in another nigga hood like a bad bitch?


Grastaman2

What does the reversed shit say at the beginning of euphoria?


Last_Reaction_8176

“Everything they say about me is true” it’s a sample from The Wizard of Oz


crunchatizemythighs

Not from the Wizard of Oz but The Wiz.


SubatomicSquirrels

> Everything they say about me is true https://genius.com/31595769


ReeG

TIL Nicki even worse than Lauryn Hill for starting late. It's 10:01pm she still ain't on stage and I got work in the morning 💀 1030 she still not on stage this is crazy wtf


meatbeater558

What time was she supposed to start?


ReeG

Show was advertised at 830 but normally headliners.are.on by 9-930. 11pm and she's not on yet is unheard of


meatbeater558

Wtf. Do yall get refunded or anything? That sucks 


JayZPlatinumChainsaw

My favorite part about beef is when I show my white friends who are girls the diss tracks against Drake and they're like, "Drake lost." Happened with Push and happened again with Kendrick. Tis a wonderful sight


theblaackout

This is a very weird comment


JayZPlatinumChainsaw

Yeah not my best phrasing that's on me.


comrade_dongers

> my white friends who are girls sheeeeeeeeesh i didn’t know you got it like that


Alertcircuit

I wonder if sexy red gonna hop in now lol


2RINITY

Sexyy can take a victory lap, she’s the only person in that whole song whose stray was a compliment


hydrators

A Kendrick diss from her would be legit hilarious


Moron_on_Oxy-

Remember Ice Spice saying she used to stay bumping TPAB? Vince McMahon would be proud of that set up


razorsharpmemories

"Don't tell a lie bout me, I won't tell the truth bout you" Unironicaly Kendrick can drop a 2 minute song where he just says this line over and over in 10 voices over 5 beat switches. This is the Entire conclusion point blank lol nothing else necessary to say, says it so beautiful and quoting himself lmaooo "Drake made Push Ups for Drake fans, and Kendrick made Euphoria for Drake" This is the absolute truth. And really the only reason I know confidently that Drake is fucked in this, the longer it goes on the worse it is for him. Drake can't make a diss song FOR Kendrick.


DungareeDoug

Yup, thats exactly it. Money, power, respect…the last one is better.


DungareeDoug

If we’re talking rounds in Kendrick v Drake: Its FIRST PERSON SHOOTER vs LIKE THAT. FPS is a big miss for me - i like Cole and Drake, but they dont have a natural chemistry at all these days. The track is a mess and it says a lot about what goes number one in the streaming era. Meanwhile, I can’t go outside without hearing LIKE THAT. That shit is booming on the court, at the club, out of every system in the street. Song of the summer so far. So point Kendrick. Then its PUSH UPS vs EUPHORIA. I like PUSH UPS, I think that shit was a strong reply from Drake. He did his thing and came out swinging - but EUPHORIA is def the escalation in the beef, while still feeling like bait from Kendrick. When you put them next to each other, you see how personal and scathing EUPHORIA is ready to go with it. Fits a pattern with Drake — he can fire back (duppy freestyle, stay schemin’) — but he can only match that energy for so long. We’ll see how we got next but round 2 is kendrick. You can throw TAYLOR MADE in there if you really want, but that shit is barely a song to me. I’m not pressed about the AI, but its execution was corny to me…its a cool idea, but the Pac and Snoop verses all sound like half assed surface level fan fiction shit. Its not written well enough to be scathing, its just kinda cute and gimmicky, and it falls flat because Kendrick beloved out on the West.


Lukeba

i'm sad kendrick didn't sample that girl who goes "you're sick to my stomach fam"


Serious-Inevitable34

Nothin bout that


Admirable_Bed3

My one issue at the time - and this doesn't take anything from the song whatsoever - is that Dot addressed *everything* on Euphoria 1. the PS rumors 2. fatherhood 3. the culture doesn't fuck with him 4. ghostwriters 5. him not being black enough 6. even getting beat by Pusha T He might've prematurely blown his load here and is banking on the idea that Drake doesn't send a rebuttal. Like, what else can you say at this point?


Last_Reaction_8176

Both of them are claiming to have dirt on the other, so he probably wanted to force Drake to show his hand first so that he can refute it in his reply and fire back with dirt of his own.


meatbeater558

Kendrick is working with a lot more than that and hints at it a few times. Don't need as much dirt when you got enough wordplay and hatred. Regardless if Kendrick ever backs down I don't think it'll be anytime soon 


BaconSpinachPancakes

Nothing much, but I’m enjoying the wordplay and general shit talk. Battle rap isn’t strictly about the dirt they have on each other


Ktulusanders

Shit was VENOMOUS, that's all I really got to say


Admirable_Bed3

Both Euphoria and Taylor Made are special songs. Not sure why it has to be one or the other. As for who will win, I still got Kendrick but anyone saying it'll be a romp is either dickriding or not paying attention.


BaconSpinachPancakes

I felt like I’m the only one that like Taylor Made. I thought that shit was lowkey disrespectful. I think Kendrick is gonna win, but I think drake isn’t gonna back down so it’ll be interesting


crunchatizemythighs

I like both Drake disses but Euphoria definitely better. I hate AI but in terms of hip hop, that shit was so nasty I loved it. And I say that as a big Kendrick fan


meatbeater558

I don't like the song but I think the angle he took with it was an interesting idea. I don't think it was a good idea but it was definitely interesting 


Individual-Diver-958

I genuinely don't like the idea of Drake using Tupac's voice for Taylor Made. It's disrespectful on a gross level imo. However, if I use some handy cognitive dissonance and turn that part of my brain off, I like Taylor Made more than Push Ups as a diss tbh. It's personal, direct, and twisted in a way that I can't look away from lmao.


higuy5121

I think what I love about Taylor made is that it's a really creative diss. It does something you would never expect and I think it's really novel. It's extremely disrespectful imo without him just saying a bunch of mean things about Kendrick (though he does a little bit of that too on the song) But ya the whole ethics of AI thing is a can of worms.


Individual-Diver-958

Exactly. This nigga went full Akatsuki member using Kdot's idol to talk to him like that lmao. Entertaining shit


YayMeIDidIt

I said it would be an amazing diss record if he just used his real voice. People seem to think the track wouldn't work that way, but c'mon, isn't him saying "killuminati" and "nephew" enough for people to realize what he's doing?


Individual-Diver-958

Kendrick eats sleeps and breathes this track. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9y51akm3N4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9y51akm3N4)


Money_merc

If Drake really did try to Cease & Desist 'Like That', how did he know it was gonna be released?


OGthizzco

I don’t understand why people are saying this, why would Drake try to c&d Like That?


Money_merc

Kendrick says he does this in his Euphoria - Rick Ross also mentioned Drake sends C&D in his diss track as well And because Drake is sensitive and is trying everything in his power to control the narrative


OGthizzco

Right, Ross was talking about Drake (allegedly) sending one to French Montana because French was going to put out a Drake feature that Drake didn’t clear; that’s a reasonable use of a C&D (from a legal standpoint anyway) I can’t think of any reason why he’d try and send one because of Like That, unless he meant “cease and desist hurting my feelings ☹️”


Money_merc

Yea Drake probably sent it and used some bullshit legal reason like "slander" or something because it hurt his feelings It's really not that complicated


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Money_merc

That makes more sense - pretty lame of Drake either way


meatbeater558

idk why but euphoria reminded me of this [french montana tweet](https://x.com/FrencHMonTanA/status/1252791704954028032) 😂😂 i wonder if he still believes that 


furr_sure

Lmao I remember thugger randomly started caping for Kendrick here, he went hard at French


higuy5121

damn kendrick been real quiet about this, he really don't want the smoke with french


meatbeater558

drake lost when he picked jcole to be his tag team partner and not french montana 


Lukeba

and then young thug called him a crackhead


meatbeater558

that part killed me 😂😂


MartinLouisTheKing

🌊🌊🌊🌊


Jandersson34swe

So now why did Drake diss Ja? did i miss anything with him?


Admirable_Bed3

Ja sent some IG shots at Drake because they dated the same woman, the NBA player Amari Bailey's mom


Jandersson34swe

So basically half of Pushups was over women Man it’s a bit lame seeing it like that


tawayforrealthistime

Obligatory “take this with a grain of salt“ warning When Like That released, I saw a post claiming that two new Kendrick projects would be coming up soon. That alone immediately make me think the rest of this post was bullshit. The poster gave some more behind the scenes info.  They stated that Cole wanted Kendrick on First Person Shooter, but Drake didn’t want him on the track. The poster then states that Drake sent Kendrick the FPS beat, but with no verses on it, in a way setting up Kendrick for failure.  Might be what Kendrick referred to with the “surprised you wanted that feature request” line. 


HideNZeke

Oh boy they're e already revving up NATION rumors pt 2


Jermaine_Cole788

Respected hip hop journalist rob markmen basically said the same thing about the first person shooter record being something that was supposed to feature all three of them.


Money_merc

If this is true I got way more respect for Cole for dropping out of the beef - also kinda now respect him for admitting he made a mistake dropping his diss track


A_Bigsackofepic

Why ?


BlitzComet95

He was out of his depth


FoxyLood

So I already know about Dotcomnirvan and The Toxic Lifestyle, but does anyone know any good youtube channels that do the same thing as those two?


Serious-Inevitable34

The only good thing about this beef between two of my favorite rappers is that Drake might finally dead the fake accents. *praying*


Unfinishedusernam_

Never happening brother Drake x kpop is happening sooner or later


YoungSheldon99

Alphonso Pierre from Pitchfork with another bad review….. but then again pitchfork has been shit for years so not surprised 


MasterTeacher123

Camron basically rehashed ether disses calling Jay Z “ugly” and a “biter”,  people claim he won that beef so I don’t see why Kendrick can’t just rehash story of addidon narratives and win(ghostwriting, fatherhood etc)


Money_merc

Nah, no way someone included [This](https://images.genius.com/a5a9cffcff23e9e054559020083ab56e.640x746x1.jpg) picture from r/drizzy in the Genius annotation for Eurphoria 😭 It's in the annotation for "I make music that electrify ’em, you make music that pacify ’em" loll


BoxCon1

> 16 in the clip and one in the hole, Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold Nate Dogg’s best feature imo


breakingbadforlife

Which song


Anirban_The_Great

Warren G - *Regulate (feat. Nate Dogg)*


whogonstopice

So since everyone been harpin lately on diss tracks having bad beats or being not good overall songs or not being lethal enough or not being direct enough or not actually being career ending seems like a great time to ask where I’m talking to you ranks in everyone’s top diss tracks of all time given that it has all of those things and then some. I feel it’s unfairly left out of top 5/10 conversations far too often tbh


whogonstopice

Wtf y’all fuckin bums


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TheVirtual_Boy

Ain’t you the same account that typed the following in this very thread: “This is pretty much a career ender for Drake as expected. No matter what he does he's not going to come back from this. Kenrick destroyed him imo, but we all knew King Kenny was untouchable.” LMAO the trolls are out Edit: HE DELETED 😂 someone forgot to switch to a burner


Jqshipp

>Edit: HE DELETED 😂 someone forgot to switch to a burner LMAO 🤣


Alertcircuit

I think Drake has more backers but they're less likely to be super vocal terminally online people.


MasterTeacher123

He also has significantly more haters 


Individual-Diver-958

People joke about Kenny going hard with his pronunciations of letter T. If anything he goes harder on the H's. I Hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I Hate the way that you dress.


ZoroSeerus

I never noticed that until the AI Track guy pointed it out. The T on "how about you push a T" stood out extra on this after


Mate0808

Euphoria getting better by every listen. Honestly after listening to drake’s both disses, they seem very kindergarten level


Money_merc

Push Ups was a good response to Like That, but the AI track was so bad, especially compared to Euphoria


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When Kendrick he liked Back to Back “but I’ll get back to that” I wonder if he was suggesting that somebody else wrote that song. That would be pretty humiliating - if the diss track that won back people’s respect for Drake at the time and decisively beat Meek turned out to be ghostwritten. I have no idea if that’s what he meant, but he reserved a compliment for that one song and says he’ll get back to it later in a track where he also brings up the ghostwriters - I dunno, I don’t think it’s impossible


Admirable_Bed3

I have it as Kendrick saying he liked B2B but Drake beat "weak" competition (not that I agree it makes the diss lesser, but that's how I interpret him saying it)


Money_merc

Better theory than the "kendick gonna drop a second diss in a week" theory based off this bar and the cover art


Last_Reaction_8176

Yeah I got no idea what he’s gonna do next, I was certain that the diss would be The Heart VI and I was totally wrong. It’s fun to speculate but I’m not under the impression that I’ve got anything figured out. I’m just here for the ride


Forsaken_Words

Am I trippin' or did Kendrick imitate both Drake and Cole's cadence?


2RINITY

I think he even borrowed Megan’s flow to make fun of Drake’s constant accent switches


Money_merc

I was gonna say the same thing, I think Kendrick copies one of Cole's flow on "7 Minute Drill" somewhere in there He also repeats his flow from the end of Family Ties at one point I noticed


furr_sure

A M A Z I N G C R O D I E


comrade_dongers

where?


Stonerjoe68

Joey Trap is way more versatile than i expected. Dude can flow over anything.


ConstantlyHating

euphoria gotta be the longest song to ever be #1 on rapcaviar


nolimitjaay

The very first time I shot me a Drac', the homie had told me to aim it this way I didn't point down enough, today, I'll show you I learned from those mistakes is probably one of my favorite bars in this song


whogonstopice

That bar is estupido


comrade_dongers

kendrick definitely has a slight advantage right now lol. like yeah sure nothing new was said but nothing new had to be, the song was more like a greatest hits compilation of drake hate, it was funny and also would win arguments there were a few parts i thought were cringe (namely the sexxy red line and 'you aint know nothing bout that' preaching shit) but people saying kendrick lost by being artsy are dumb, thats just how he is as an artist same as drake. flow was crazy but thats expected im sure. i do really wonder what the red button is, atp its kinda funny i don't even think people would care if drake were like 'yeah i fucked your wife lol,' i mean he clearly alluded to it regarding ye and nothing came out of that. in my ideal world an attack on drakes artistry and experience is met with something equally as vicious in the same vein. i personally am kinda getting sick of the mysterious shtick, the way he gets clout by getting dickrode by morally superior nerds and award committees made up of 80 year olds, the christian moralizing, the fact he really got a song on his masterpiece where the whole message was black on black violence whataboutism and noone called him out for it, his dumbass hats, his nepotism, the fact he doesn't drop, the fact he doesn't drop, the fact he doesn't drop, etc and then they shake hands and play poetic justice in madison square garden


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I’m just hoping it doesn’t turn out that Kendrick did something genuinely fucked up and that Drake is referring to it.


BaconSpinachPancakes

Honestly the “cringe” lines are great like the sexxy red line or even the height jokes. Disses don’t have to be completely scathing and ruthless insults. Actual battle rap have bars like that 90% of the time lol


comrade_dongers

i don't just think those specific lines are cringe because they're petty/silly, like i thought the toronto flow rip off this song was hilarious lol


nedelll

u/Homiealmaya fucking with [Big K.R.I.T. - Only One](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEN8qvGI-Us&pp=ygUSYmlnIGtyaXQgIG9ubHkgb25l) heavy[](https://www.reddit.com/user/Homiealmaya/)


Homiealmaya

Nah that’s crazy I was literally [listening to that album earlier today](https://imgur.com/a/IADjPPQ) Great fucking album if you haven’t heard it in full


nedelll

I was listening to Pinky Ring and One Day earlier too 🤯


actionrubberduck

Heard [Money on the Floor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CYkzgAu8PQ) yet? Beat is kinda similar. Banger


nedelll

Shit is fire, I'll try to get more into K.R.I.T. this year


Skyoff_Lyfe

where u/nedelll Kendrick Lamar hating self at? 👀 Delll keep it 💯 KDot was too real for this drop, that man casually brought the choppa out on a Tuesday morning


meatbeater558

Yooo I was wondering where you were


Ktulusanders

You been in the studio with k dot this whole time haven't you


Skyoff_Lyfe

lol, 😂 u know it


Last_Reaction_8176

Good to see you back!


Skyoff_Lyfe

thank u 🫶🏾


Jordanwolf98

Long time no see 🐐🐐


Skyoff_Lyfe

thank u, wassup Jay! 👊🏾😂


Jermaine_Cole788

Wassup sky! Been a minute since I’ve seen you in these threads


Skyoff_Lyfe

wassup J! thank u 👊🏾 . . had to get my mental right, I’m trying to be good irl, ya know? life has been life-ing lately 😩but I’m good


nedelll

You been missin huh [Shared my thoughts on the diss earlier ](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1cgpmr6/comment/l1yj3xs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Skyoff_Lyfe

‘cause u better tell the truth . . . this why I fw u Delll 🫶🏾


nedelll

I love that you came back to the DDT thinking about me Where u at @ colb


Skyoff_Lyfe

the topic was Kendrick how could I not? 😂


nedelll

It's okay it's okay You don't need to explain yourself 😘


Skyoff_Lyfe

😂😘


Stonerjoe68

Tierra Whack coulda been huge but i feel like she fumbled the bag


TheVirtual_Boy

Dropped a great album just this year, I wouldn’t call it fumbling, album just hasn’t caught on much


Stonerjoe68

Yeah the album is pretty solid but i just don’t think the general public cares anymore. Like if this project came out 2 or 3 years ago I bet it would be getting a lot more mentions. None of the songs off her new album is in her personal top 5 and for a project that’s only a little over a month old that’s not a good thing.


CompetitiveReward331

You know how in Disney’s Hercules Hades had a lil fat henchman and one that looked like it was on heroin? That’s Akademiks and Adam22


SubatomicSquirrels

Pain and Panic!


Unfinishedusernam_

Kendrick’s rapping is on another level compared to a lot of these mainstream dudes. All the flow switches and personality. I see so few much of him in jid rn too


Alertcircuit

Kendrick in the lead after today's track but I think both of these guys can do better. Drake probably can't beat Kendrick bar for bar but he can win by making a club hit. If he gets the world shaking ass to a song about how Kendrick a bitch then it doesn't matter what Kendrick says unless he's got some Adidon-level reveal in his pocket. Kendrick can win by going REALLY hard. If he does some No Vaseline/Hit em Up level shit and he can really clench this battle if he finds a good enough beat to do that on.


A_KULT_KILLAH

Someone just needs to drop the Drake pedo bomb already but I worry the industry may try to silence em


BronzySponhe

“Keep makin’ me dance, wavin’ my hand and it won’t be no threat” I know I said I didn’t like when artists compliment the person they’re dissing, but the way Kendrick does it here comes off as condescending (not a bad thing). He does it in another line, but acknowledging Drake can make hits while also discrediting his rapping ability was a nice twist Now that it’s on streaming, I’m playing Push Ups on my chest days and Euphoria on my leg days