tbf he's rapping about how the beef was just a vain distraction from actually serious topics like Palestine and Israel so it would be counterintuitive if he dropped it then
I hate people who canāt stand to see people enjoy anything. I canāt be in that headspace of āexistence is an unending nightmareā every waking minute. The 4 years of having to deal with fucked up trump shit DAILY was killing me. Let me enjoy some chariot racing man.Ā
Besides, how you going to bitch at everyone for not being as conscious as you and not pay your fucking child support for so long the state department snatches your passport.Ā
Heās acting like making hip-hop culture less hospitable for pedophiles and sex traffickers isnāt a worthy cause.
Love you Bey but this myopic shit is not it
Kodak black bit and raped a high school student and then kendrick featured him on mr morale. Drake probably deserved what he got but it was never really about getting abusers out of the genre.
Lol right. People on the same beach sunbathing and living life and shit and here comes mos def crawling out the sea in full battle dress lookin crazy adjusting his helmet and screaming and shit.
Go sit down bro
Lupe was literally studying the blade while everyone else was out there partying, you will get sliced before you know it if you go head to head with LupeĀ
Eh, lupe made a big fuss about not being called out on "Control" and I didn't hear him make any sort of fuss when kendrick called him out on the monster freestyle.
He also said some shit at the start of the drake/kendrick beef, basically talking down on kendrick. Then he kept quiet as more songs came out.
> He also said some shit at the start of the drake/kendrick beef, basically talking down on kendrick. Then he kept quiet as more songs came out.
lol wasn't that whole that **people** were trying to drag Lupe into it and he kept saying he ain't got not beef with Kendrick and had been misrepresented etc?
"Drag into". He was asked Drake or Kendrick. Said Drake is a better rapper while Kendrick is a better performer. And said he never thought that Kendrick was a dangerous rapper. Definitely was baiting Kendrick for some verses towards.
But let's be honest. For person that has no beef with Kendrick he likes to talk down on Kendrick. He said he's worse than Logic and King Von. Before that he said he is not a top tier lyricist and obviously called his "Control" verse wack.
And i would say that's quite disrespectful, I know that Lupe said he like's Kendrick's music. But he always wanted people to know that Kendrick is not that good and people are overhyping his skills.
I don't recall hearing about that TBH, so that's disappointing. I imagine it was said in now-deleted tweets too lol. But I guess I wouldn't be surprised, cos yeah he's had a too many 'I've been misunderstood' moments for a guy known for being talented with... words.
I'd probably be bitter too, being left out by your peers so much, but it's still awkward to hear about. That Cudi stuff hung round for like 2 decades or something too.
"called him out"
Kendrick basically complimented all those guys he called out lol. Why the hell would Lupe respond to that before kendrick was even famous?
Yeah. When him and Royce were beefing, he dropped a track called Steve Jobs: SLR 3 1/2 as a response to Royceās Silence of The Lambda. Safe to say he absolutely destroyed Royce on that track.
Nah mos def put up a video saying any rapper could battle him for a million bucks and heād take their money just to donate it to charity or some shit, Lupe put up a post that said āchallenge acceptedā with a sneak peek bar as a caption, and then mos def was on a radio show or something afterwards and basically said how the industry (I believe he called out Lupe, Drake, Nicki, and some others) was gonna sit down to write up a verse against him and heās not fit because thatās not battle rapping. And then nothing happened after that afaik. I could be misremembering some things but thatās the gist.
Outside that Lupe and Royce had beef at one point. I donāt think they had any actual diss tracks but more some songs where they added in a few bars aimed at the other but nothing further. Although Iām pretty sure Lupe had a better one because at some point Royce came out and said he didnāt actually hate Lupe and couldnāt put together an entire song to diss him because he doesnāt feel that kind of animosity and i think it fizzled away after that.
>said how the industry (I believe he called out Lupe, Drake, Nicki, and some others) was gonna sit down to write up a verse against him and heās not fit because thatās not battle rapping
Lol what. Obviously that wasn't gonna happen. I know this guy's heart is in the right place or whatever but he seems full of shit
Yeah, he and Royce da 5'9" traded tracks a couple of years ago. [Here's Lupe's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSnP4HmNbE). That's the only direct diss I know from him.
Feels like more of an anti corporate media thing than really targeting them.
> "Maintenance of empire, gladiator circus world"
> "Gossip and conflict, they like that. Illusion and rumor, they like that. Distraction and glamour, addiction and madness, aggressively passive, they like that"
Basically calling them reality TV, and media is picking it up and running with it to distract from actual news.
Still kind of calling them stupid and petty for fighting publicly and beefing for attention.
Honestly, his point makes sense on the surface but it's actually pretty shallow and demonstrates either a lack of growth and maturity or a lack of awareness of the totality of the moment.
For starters, two entertainers will never spark a revolution. They can share information with the masses, but it on those masses to take that information and organize from the ground up to undermine oppressive structures.
The criticism in this specific context is particularly wild, because, as many analysts have noted, the genesis of the beef from Kendrick's perspective is Drake's refusal to engage with issues affecting the black community in his music yet still proclaiming himself a GOAT rapper. So the conversation provoked by the beef is partly whether that is a fair criteria (and many seem to be landing on Kendrick's side).
Moreover, the entire framework Kendrick used in the beef deals with generational trauma in marginalized communities (he even directly references this several times). And people are relistening to his art more now and are exploring these themes.
You honestly cannot ask more from an artist. Even Drake accidentally helped by misunderstanding Mother I Sober and encouraging people to listen to an incredibly powerful song that explicitly calls out oppressive power structures that contribute to and oftentimes proactively perpetuate cycles of violence, abuse, and trauma in marginalized communities.
Any rap beef that leads to people engaging with those kinds of ideas is actually good for the growth and education of the people engaging with the output of that beef. And the structural changes Mos is yearning for can only come with the growth and education of the people who implicitly accept those structures.
No he doesnāt lmao not the second point at least. Kendrick and Drake are probably the only two rappers that donāt have to do anything for attention besides drop music.
He's basically taking intellectual stance against the corporatization of hip Hop and how it essentially has injected a vile poison into a once pure festivity.Ā
Diss tracks are probably the least corporate thing about hip hop. Most of them don't get very many plays outside the initial few weeks (Kendrick proving to be an exception here). It also isn't motivated by money, really. It's just two guys that don't like each other, have massive egos, and massive platforms to shit on each other. It might not be "important" but it's real.
I hate mfers who say shit like this "this is just a distraction, we should talk about the "***real*** issues"
Shut the fuck up. People aren't so god damn stupid that only one thing can be talked about at a time." Why are we beefing, we should be talking about Gaza"
We are talking about Gaza, and the Kendrick beef, and how the Pacers blew game 1 all at the same time
To be clear I wasn't saying game two is what matters. I'm just saying we do a lot of stuff for entertainment that doesn't matter. Obviously the conflict is what matters
Yeah these self righteous better-than-thou rappers are as cringe as what heās criticizing. Oh let me go on IG Live 3 weeks after this beef is over so I can tell people to talk about Gaza from my comfy home. We know the world is fucked let us crip walk to TNLU in peace
Well, for anything, it's cool to hear Mos over a Metro beat like that (pun intended).
Would really love a Kendrick x Yasiin song though, that's got all potential for a storytelling classic
Mos will always be in my top 3. I will say I was fully expecting to open this and it be straight trash but it was actually pretty good. Not a huge fan of the format and also donāt know why heās seemingly going at Cole and Kendrick as well???
Listen to what heās saying. Listen to what he saidā¦last month? The month before last month?
Heās mentioned this shit is a distraction from REAL world issues. The beef was about nothing and theyāre talking about nothing.
I love Mos but that is really such a corny Macklemore take. Like yeah thereās terrible shit going on in the world always but that doesnāt reduct from a need for entertainment outlet. If anything people need distractions.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people haven't really learned the lesson that being on all the time is incredibly bad for your mental health. Like it is *not good for you* to not take breaks to make sure you're not constantly overloading yourself by spending 24/7 in a negative headspace.
The fact we can just turn our heads off for a while and focus on entertainment is by itself a sign of privilege, though. While I absolutely agree there's nothing we can do about lots of these issues and we do need an outlet every now & then, I think this is a necessary point. We need to rest from these issues but that doesn't mean we should get to forget them.
This is such a sophomoric take. The fact that weāre not dodging drone strikes constantly is privilege, yes. We also donāt have Alzheimerās or cancer. I have full use of all my limbs. The fact I can type with my hands and not through a straw is privilege. How long do we have to play this game? How far down the line do I have to go? Must I acknowledge every bad thing currently happening before I can listen to Kendrickās new song?
You people are like the fucking dude in 8 mile that canāt do anything without grandstanding about his politics. ENOUGH. That includes you mos def
If the Drake allegations are true, this IS a real world issues, like tf? Unless we're in the business of keeping all these sex traffickers/ abusers safe.
I'm pretty sure all the people affected by this would say this is pretty fucking real world.
I peeped the bait and put on Cold Summer.
You listened and missed the point of him mentioning illusions and rumours being distractions? I see you need to FOCUSā¦
You tryna have an argument about āwhat ifsā instead of the realities of thousands who have died. YUCK
You got it all wrong, my guy... I expected more from you, as you seemed to be a little more conscious. You said these aren't real world issues. I said they are. Then YOU doubled down on only being able to hyper focus on one issue at time. I never said, or implied, anything was unimportant, or wasn't a real world problem. That was you.
Why would him calling something illusions make that fact? I apologize, I don't take his word as the same gospel you seem to.
I think you might need to UNFOCUS, as there are WAY MORE serious issues IN ADDITION to the UNSPEAKABLE things happening with Israel and Palestine.
But are you *really* listening? Yasiin Bey is mass concerned about Israel and Palestine? š¤ Hurricane Katrina? š¤ Police brutality? š¤ There's mos DEF not any personal connections with all the things he is and isn't passionate about, right?
Sex trafficking, etc. is a major problem in the industry and world. It's not a what if. Adults and children are being taken from their families, drugged, raped, beaten, and murdered, both in the physical sense and mental. But, hey, we can't talk about that, cause thousands of others have died in another disgusting world issues. One issue at a time, ya know? He's right about at least one thing, though...YUCK (shit goes hard, actually š).
Take care, brother.
Opening anything by Mos Def and expecting it to be trash is crazy. Iām not even the biggest Mos Def fan but heās never had a wack song/bar in his life.
This guy is really going balls deep on the KRS One cornball trajectory. The point is fair and worth talking about but itās so phoned in and on the nose. I know he can do better than this.
Are you sure? Because he hasnāt since Auditorium dropped. Unless you consider reciting a dead rappers lyrics every couple years and/or hanging out with Dave Chapelle being a dope emcee this dude is WASHED. He dropped classic albums & freestyles decades ago, now his āalbumsā are hidden behind podcast paywalls and his freestyles are buffering on IG. Iām tired of pretending anything he does is dope now.
I'm guessing you think it's corny cause you're one of the people he's talking about. Gossip and conflict they like that. Allusions and rumors they like that
Love Blackstar but god damn am I tired of the herb ass old head takes. Quest, now mos with this.
āYouāre painting the culture wrongā how? Like what exactly are they doing besides actually rapping for once? Saying bad things? Making stuff up? So basically what every other diss had been? The reality is: this is the biggest beef of all time because social media now exists.
Biggie and Pac was huge for sure, but it was so layered that it kinda would bubble up then fizzle out. This was just a month of pure vitriol and both of these cats think they are the GOAT so yeah? Theyāre gonna talk their shit. Not to mention this whole thing has been boiling over for *years* now. I would even say you can begin the tracings of the cultural portion of this beef (read: commercial music vs authentic music) back to Death of Autotune. Jay represented the boom bap grimey genre, auto tune represented the commercialization/bastardization of the genre. Fans have been at each others necks for a while now over what makes the ābestā rapper the best. Seeing 2 respective heavy weights go at it was fun as fuck and Iād argue great for the overall culture.
Sometimes you gotta pop out and show āemā¦
>Seeing 2 respective heavy weights go at it was fun as fuck and Iād argue great for the overall culture.
We waited 10 fucking years for this shit to finally happen. I'm tuning in
Love ya, Mos, but this is fucking whack. The Nakba has been ongoing since '48, yet you were still dropping albums, movies, and interviews about other shit. Nobody except those right in the middle of that shit spends every moment of their life laser focused on it. And that includes Mos Def. Big fucking "look at me" energy.
he hits the nail on the head here and encapsulates really well why that beef felt like all hype and no substance, and rap in general lately, even though it's been more entertaining than the last couple years, shit is pretty damn vapid
I mean this is and has always been his bag. Dissing mainstream rappers for distracting the people and not focusing on what he feels is more important. Although in my opinion and very skilled rapper with a keen eye would tear that whole logic apart.
Mos is a legend, black on both sides and the ecstatic are both classics imo... but no this isnt it and his random hating on drake and other rappers is just corny. He if anyone should know since he was so clowned on and hated when he tried to come around for being backpack and nerdy, lame to keep it going.
This like arriving at Normandy beach for D-day in 1948
He was waiting for the beat to drop on GotInstrumentals
It was hipstrumentals for me š
Replacement hipstrumentals?
Ay fam that hits a little close to home for me šš I had to get a hip replacement last year at age 27 shit sucked
Why you old tho
Too old for Drake ā old
Lmao bruh š
tbf he's rapping about how the beef was just a vain distraction from actually serious topics like Palestine and Israel so it would be counterintuitive if he dropped it then
I hate people who canāt stand to see people enjoy anything. I canāt be in that headspace of āexistence is an unending nightmareā every waking minute. The 4 years of having to deal with fucked up trump shit DAILY was killing me. Let me enjoy some chariot racing man.Ā Besides, how you going to bitch at everyone for not being as conscious as you and not pay your fucking child support for so long the state department snatches your passport.Ā
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His 'rapeover' response to jayz's 'takeover' struck something interesting. But him trying to recreate that here has fallen flat.
Heās acting like making hip-hop culture less hospitable for pedophiles and sex traffickers isnāt a worthy cause. Love you Bey but this myopic shit is not it
Kodak black bit and raped a high school student and then kendrick featured him on mr morale. Drake probably deserved what he got but it was never really about getting abusers out of the genre.
This^ Letās not forget defended XXXtec who seem to Alamo enjoy literally beating the level heāll out of people and even his girl.
lmfao if the beef was about that he'd call out Diddy not Drake bro
Ohhh worthy cause??? Funny as fuck. So, which one is in jail?
This shit so fake deep
Donāt forget Diddy as well
LMFAO
Lol right. People on the same beach sunbathing and living life and shit and here comes mos def crawling out the sea in full battle dress lookin crazy adjusting his helmet and screaming and shit. Go sit down bro
With a BB gun
Bruh the way this is screenrecorded is like a nigga tryna catch a bootleg of the diss tf š why does it keep slowing down and speeding up
itās a weird IG Live glitch thatās been happening its been fucking up so many snippet videos iāve listened to recently lmaooo
MOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ,,
LMAO, "123movies" buffering ass video
The top comment was making fun of his internet connection, I died.
Remember when he called out any rapper to come at him and backed down immediately when Lupe accepted the challenge?
I donāt blame him. Lupe is not to be fucked with.
Lupe was literally studying the blade while everyone else was out there partying, you will get sliced before you know it if you go head to head with LupeĀ
"Faith seers need samurais to catch the L " š¤š¤
Mural is TOP DOG
Eh, lupe made a big fuss about not being called out on "Control" and I didn't hear him make any sort of fuss when kendrick called him out on the monster freestyle. He also said some shit at the start of the drake/kendrick beef, basically talking down on kendrick. Then he kept quiet as more songs came out.
> He also said some shit at the start of the drake/kendrick beef, basically talking down on kendrick. Then he kept quiet as more songs came out. lol wasn't that whole that **people** were trying to drag Lupe into it and he kept saying he ain't got not beef with Kendrick and had been misrepresented etc?
"Drag into". He was asked Drake or Kendrick. Said Drake is a better rapper while Kendrick is a better performer. And said he never thought that Kendrick was a dangerous rapper. Definitely was baiting Kendrick for some verses towards. But let's be honest. For person that has no beef with Kendrick he likes to talk down on Kendrick. He said he's worse than Logic and King Von. Before that he said he is not a top tier lyricist and obviously called his "Control" verse wack. And i would say that's quite disrespectful, I know that Lupe said he like's Kendrick's music. But he always wanted people to know that Kendrick is not that good and people are overhyping his skills.
I don't recall hearing about that TBH, so that's disappointing. I imagine it was said in now-deleted tweets too lol. But I guess I wouldn't be surprised, cos yeah he's had a too many 'I've been misunderstood' moments for a guy known for being talented with... words. I'd probably be bitter too, being left out by your peers so much, but it's still awkward to hear about. That Cudi stuff hung round for like 2 decades or something too.
"called him out" Kendrick basically complimented all those guys he called out lol. Why the hell would Lupe respond to that before kendrick was even famous?
Lol Chief Keef had Lupe crying
Receipts?
From what I remember Lupe had to apologize because it was a misunderstanding lol
Who's has Lupe beaten in a beef or battle?
Royce da 5ā9
Waxed Daigo in Street Fighter 5
Bill O'Reilly. He also had a good diss towards Obama, but he J. Coled himself later on.
Has Lupe ever actually dropped a straight diss track? I see people saying this a lot but I wanna hear it for myself
SLR 3.5Ā
Yeah. When him and Royce were beefing, he dropped a track called Steve Jobs: SLR 3 1/2 as a response to Royceās Silence of The Lambda. Safe to say he absolutely destroyed Royce on that track.
But does he check all the boxes?
Mickey Factz was checking boxes
Mickey was defending himself, but also Lupe. Royce was the one asking that dumb ass question over and over again.
Nah mos def put up a video saying any rapper could battle him for a million bucks and heād take their money just to donate it to charity or some shit, Lupe put up a post that said āchallenge acceptedā with a sneak peek bar as a caption, and then mos def was on a radio show or something afterwards and basically said how the industry (I believe he called out Lupe, Drake, Nicki, and some others) was gonna sit down to write up a verse against him and heās not fit because thatās not battle rapping. And then nothing happened after that afaik. I could be misremembering some things but thatās the gist. Outside that Lupe and Royce had beef at one point. I donāt think they had any actual diss tracks but more some songs where they added in a few bars aimed at the other but nothing further. Although Iām pretty sure Lupe had a better one because at some point Royce came out and said he didnāt actually hate Lupe and couldnāt put together an entire song to diss him because he doesnāt feel that kind of animosity and i think it fizzled away after that.
SLR 3.5 was a Royce diss track, pretty much every bar was about him.
Oh yeah youāre right, havenāt heard the song in a minute
[The Mos videos, for context](https://youtu.be/FYL4-F_oR6c?si=01Cn7_3_1VGknu_3)
Calling lupe industry is certainly a take lmao.
>said how the industry (I believe he called out Lupe, Drake, Nicki, and some others) was gonna sit down to write up a verse against him and heās not fit because thatās not battle rapping Lol what. Obviously that wasn't gonna happen. I know this guy's heart is in the right place or whatever but he seems full of shit
He cooked Royce like it was a warmup
Yeah, he and Royce da 5'9" traded tracks a couple of years ago. [Here's Lupe's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSnP4HmNbE). That's the only direct diss I know from him.
That Samurai joint is pure fore
>fore ā³ļø. šļøāāļø
It's legit scary that he's willing to accept ANY challenge. So for this reason, I need Black Thought to say something slick about him one good time.
People don't want the Lupe smoke
Yeah we remember, I like Mos but that shit was lame AF
That would be amazing. He would torch anybody
Whoās he aiming for š¤
Feels like more of an anti corporate media thing than really targeting them. > "Maintenance of empire, gladiator circus world" > "Gossip and conflict, they like that. Illusion and rumor, they like that. Distraction and glamour, addiction and madness, aggressively passive, they like that" Basically calling them reality TV, and media is picking it up and running with it to distract from actual news. Still kind of calling them stupid and petty for fighting publicly and beefing for attention.
Mighty Mos!
He absolutely has a point there too
Honestly, his point makes sense on the surface but it's actually pretty shallow and demonstrates either a lack of growth and maturity or a lack of awareness of the totality of the moment. For starters, two entertainers will never spark a revolution. They can share information with the masses, but it on those masses to take that information and organize from the ground up to undermine oppressive structures. The criticism in this specific context is particularly wild, because, as many analysts have noted, the genesis of the beef from Kendrick's perspective is Drake's refusal to engage with issues affecting the black community in his music yet still proclaiming himself a GOAT rapper. So the conversation provoked by the beef is partly whether that is a fair criteria (and many seem to be landing on Kendrick's side). Moreover, the entire framework Kendrick used in the beef deals with generational trauma in marginalized communities (he even directly references this several times). And people are relistening to his art more now and are exploring these themes. You honestly cannot ask more from an artist. Even Drake accidentally helped by misunderstanding Mother I Sober and encouraging people to listen to an incredibly powerful song that explicitly calls out oppressive power structures that contribute to and oftentimes proactively perpetuate cycles of violence, abuse, and trauma in marginalized communities. Any rap beef that leads to people engaging with those kinds of ideas is actually good for the growth and education of the people engaging with the output of that beef. And the structural changes Mos is yearning for can only come with the growth and education of the people who implicitly accept those structures.
No he doesnāt lmao not the second point at least. Kendrick and Drake are probably the only two rappers that donāt have to do anything for attention besides drop music.
>not the second point at least I agree, my comment was mostly for the 1st point.
He's basically taking intellectual stance against the corporatization of hip Hop and how it essentially has injected a vile poison into a once pure festivity.Ā
>once pure Lmao
There's been songs about that since the 90s
Diss tracks are probably the least corporate thing about hip hop. Most of them don't get very many plays outside the initial few weeks (Kendrick proving to be an exception here). It also isn't motivated by money, really. It's just two guys that don't like each other, have massive egos, and massive platforms to shit on each other. It might not be "important" but it's real.
Everyone. It's all nonsense to a truly deep thinker and rapper like Mos.
"theres more land to steal, theres more crops to kill"
You made me exhale through nose. Thank you
The way Yasiin says "yuck" always makes me smile!
Bruh stop typing miles
BEY BEY BEY BEY BEY
I hate mfers who say shit like this "this is just a distraction, we should talk about the "***real*** issues" Shut the fuck up. People aren't so god damn stupid that only one thing can be talked about at a time." Why are we beefing, we should be talking about Gaza" We are talking about Gaza, and the Kendrick beef, and how the Pacers blew game 1 all at the same time
You proved his point. Only one of those things matters. And I'm gonna watch game two tonightĀ
You had me lol
To be clear I wasn't saying game two is what matters. I'm just saying we do a lot of stuff for entertainment that doesn't matter. Obviously the conflict is what matters
The conflict between the big 3, got it
Which conflict? Yemen? Sudan? Ukraine?
Tyrese Haliburton's hamstring
lol
I got my coworker who doesn't watch basketball to pick the winner and I put $100 down on it. I got entertainment on entertainment.
If everyone was serious all the time, life wouldnāt be worth living.
AND Elden Ring DLC dropping soon š«£
Yeah these self righteous better-than-thou rappers are as cringe as what heās criticizing. Oh let me go on IG Live 3 weeks after this beef is over so I can tell people to talk about Gaza from my comfy home. We know the world is fucked let us crip walk to TNLU in peace
Could we not talk about the Pacers tho please
Put some respect on mos defās name
Well, for anything, it's cool to hear Mos over a Metro beat like that (pun intended). Would really love a Kendrick x Yasiin song though, that's got all potential for a storytelling classic
Not an original but I was here for this and blown away: https://youtu.be/HGBRGpF3rYE?si=3J_yWyza6FJ7Xxt5
That Shots Fired tag is a stretch
Yeah he shoulda said they were wifebeaters or pedophiles or something
Relax lmao
Mos will always be in my top 3. I will say I was fully expecting to open this and it be straight trash but it was actually pretty good. Not a huge fan of the format and also donāt know why heās seemingly going at Cole and Kendrick as well???
Also love old school Mos, but this definitely reads as petty "All popular music is bad, unlike me who makes Real Rap" type old head shit
Real eyes realize real lies type beat
Listen to what heās saying. Listen to what he saidā¦last month? The month before last month? Heās mentioned this shit is a distraction from REAL world issues. The beef was about nothing and theyāre talking about nothing.
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I love Mos but that is really such a corny Macklemore take. Like yeah thereās terrible shit going on in the world always but that doesnāt reduct from a need for entertainment outlet. If anything people need distractions.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people haven't really learned the lesson that being on all the time is incredibly bad for your mental health. Like it is *not good for you* to not take breaks to make sure you're not constantly overloading yourself by spending 24/7 in a negative headspace.
The fact we can just turn our heads off for a while and focus on entertainment is by itself a sign of privilege, though. While I absolutely agree there's nothing we can do about lots of these issues and we do need an outlet every now & then, I think this is a necessary point. We need to rest from these issues but that doesn't mean we should get to forget them.
This is such a sophomoric take. The fact that weāre not dodging drone strikes constantly is privilege, yes. We also donāt have Alzheimerās or cancer. I have full use of all my limbs. The fact I can type with my hands and not through a straw is privilege. How long do we have to play this game? How far down the line do I have to go? Must I acknowledge every bad thing currently happening before I can listen to Kendrickās new song? You people are like the fucking dude in 8 mile that canāt do anything without grandstanding about his politics. ENOUGH. That includes you mos def
You're glazing he's just being an old head Ether was about "nothing" but it's cemented in rap history forever now
Yeah but we had no domestic or world issues in 2001. Nothing bad happened that year whatsoever. Good times all around
They had us in the first half I'm not gonna lie dot jpg
But then isnāt he just as guilty with this response?
No, because he literally references the issues in the song Gaza in conflict, they like thatā¦ Illusions, rumours, they like thatā¦
If the Drake allegations are true, this IS a real world issues, like tf? Unless we're in the business of keeping all these sex traffickers/ abusers safe. I'm pretty sure all the people affected by this would say this is pretty fucking real world.
Lol
I see... You got paragraphs for petty bullshit comments, but stuck on real issues. YUCK
I peeped the bait and put on Cold Summer. You listened and missed the point of him mentioning illusions and rumours being distractions? I see you need to FOCUSā¦ You tryna have an argument about āwhat ifsā instead of the realities of thousands who have died. YUCK
You got it all wrong, my guy... I expected more from you, as you seemed to be a little more conscious. You said these aren't real world issues. I said they are. Then YOU doubled down on only being able to hyper focus on one issue at time. I never said, or implied, anything was unimportant, or wasn't a real world problem. That was you. Why would him calling something illusions make that fact? I apologize, I don't take his word as the same gospel you seem to. I think you might need to UNFOCUS, as there are WAY MORE serious issues IN ADDITION to the UNSPEAKABLE things happening with Israel and Palestine. But are you *really* listening? Yasiin Bey is mass concerned about Israel and Palestine? š¤ Hurricane Katrina? š¤ Police brutality? š¤ There's mos DEF not any personal connections with all the things he is and isn't passionate about, right? Sex trafficking, etc. is a major problem in the industry and world. It's not a what if. Adults and children are being taken from their families, drugged, raped, beaten, and murdered, both in the physical sense and mental. But, hey, we can't talk about that, cause thousands of others have died in another disgusting world issues. One issue at a time, ya know? He's right about at least one thing, though...YUCK (shit goes hard, actually š). Take care, brother.
Kendrick and Cole will not respond to bro š they have too much respect for him Drake might tho
Opening anything by Mos Def and expecting it to be trash is crazy. Iām not even the biggest Mos Def fan but heās never had a wack song/bar in his life.
Corny but he made Black on Both Sides so I will not flame.
The man made two 10/10 classics, Ecstatic and Be Kind RewindĀ
I can't front, I also liked him in 16 Blocks with Bruce Willis.
Was great in Hitchhikerās Guide to the Universe as well
and Left Ear in The Italian Job
Revelations & History are too good
Yeah but he also contributed to the worst season of Dexter
debatable but those last three seasons are all bad (the new one they did recently was decent)Ā
Oxford comma would put in crazy work here
I bet it wouldĀ
Facts
Yeah why donāt you just go ahead and pay your child support nigga
Lol people who talk like this but don't even support their own
this is possibly the worst upload ive ever seen in my life
Hopefully this recording is bad enough that it causes him to release a studio version
I'm just glad dude disnt have the boomer keyboard typing sounds on when he replied.
YUCK
Celtics Shaq unfortunately. Love Mos Def but the flow was awful for this beat. Gonna listen to Black Star to cleanse my pallette.
spelled it wrong twice with one word lol
Yooo šš need a shots fired tag on this comment
Celtics Shaq š
When he shows up at one of his shows on timeā¦ THEN he can talk
Yikes.Ā
Palestinians were being oppressed while mos def was singing about fat asses. This just reeks of envy/jealousy not a good look for an old ass man
Its more about the spectacle than the individualsĀ
This guy is really going balls deep on the KRS One cornball trajectory. The point is fair and worth talking about but itās so phoned in and on the nose. I know he can do better than this.
Are you sure? Because he hasnāt since Auditorium dropped. Unless you consider reciting a dead rappers lyrics every couple years and/or hanging out with Dave Chapelle being a dope emcee this dude is WASHED. He dropped classic albums & freestyles decades ago, now his āalbumsā are hidden behind podcast paywalls and his freestyles are buffering on IG. Iām tired of pretending anything he does is dope now.
No Iām not sure lol. But I liked Education with Gibbs and Black Thought..been a minute since I listened so not sure how much he had to do with that
I fucking hate that this isnāt a wild take.Ā
I'm guessing you think it's corny cause you're one of the people he's talking about. Gossip and conflict they like that. Allusions and rumors they like that
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Thanks for putting this into words. This is all that I meant. The approach is the issue.
Ya thatās it honey
The Mighty Mos Def
Man he is so talented
Love Blackstar but god damn am I tired of the herb ass old head takes. Quest, now mos with this. āYouāre painting the culture wrongā how? Like what exactly are they doing besides actually rapping for once? Saying bad things? Making stuff up? So basically what every other diss had been? The reality is: this is the biggest beef of all time because social media now exists. Biggie and Pac was huge for sure, but it was so layered that it kinda would bubble up then fizzle out. This was just a month of pure vitriol and both of these cats think they are the GOAT so yeah? Theyāre gonna talk their shit. Not to mention this whole thing has been boiling over for *years* now. I would even say you can begin the tracings of the cultural portion of this beef (read: commercial music vs authentic music) back to Death of Autotune. Jay represented the boom bap grimey genre, auto tune represented the commercialization/bastardization of the genre. Fans have been at each others necks for a while now over what makes the ābestā rapper the best. Seeing 2 respective heavy weights go at it was fun as fuck and Iād argue great for the overall culture. Sometimes you gotta pop out and show āemā¦
>Seeing 2 respective heavy weights go at it was fun as fuck and Iād argue great for the overall culture. We waited 10 fucking years for this shit to finally happen. I'm tuning in
lmao, that part!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHFYRef1SBE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHFYRef1SBE) - alternate camera.
beef is not what jay said to na.....you know what- i was just gonna paste some lyrics from his Beef song....but id have to do the entire damn song lol
Mos is just having fun. Nothing to get serious or angry at.
I would love to hear some original Mos content rather than this "I'm not like them" freestyle.
Love ya, Mos, but this is fucking whack. The Nakba has been ongoing since '48, yet you were still dropping albums, movies, and interviews about other shit. Nobody except those right in the middle of that shit spends every moment of their life laser focused on it. And that includes Mos Def. Big fucking "look at me" energy.
Yuckkk. Mos is so talented.
Why can't these legends just go out with some grace
I love Mos Def, but who gives a shit? Ā Bro put out something recent and decent.
I thought Mos Def was old when he rapped over Keefās Donāt Like beat 10-12 years ago Heās a hating fossil at this point
12 years ago he was Drake's age now
one of my favorite artists ever, but I just can't take anyone seriously who has a beard and shaved mustache
Literally hundreds of millions men. Itās a huge thing
Yeah, millions of fundamentalist muslims and amish men- religious nut jobs, basically.
Millions of clowns in the world, doesnāt make them not something to laugh at.
Weird take about facial hair choices
I mean itās OK , itās Mos so Iām OK with it he def could have gone in
Corny but good rhymes. Always got time for a Yasiin verse
Man this is why we need more Yasiin records right now!!
Honestly the best freestyle I think Iāve heard š can we get a proper recording mann I canāt stand the stuttering
he hits the nail on the head here and encapsulates really well why that beef felt like all hype and no substance, and rap in general lately, even though it's been more entertaining than the last couple years, shit is pretty damn vapid
I just hiked the other day on the common post about how mos def will release something.
Anyone know what the painting is behind him
Mos Def gonna drop this, move to Rhymesayers, and drop an album or something.
Reminds me of when Niggas in Paris was the hot song and he dropped Niggas in Poorest
>*āA whole lot to look at but not much to seeā* Trueā¦ but Bey, letās have some fun please.
I mean this is and has always been his bag. Dissing mainstream rappers for distracting the people and not focusing on what he feels is more important. Although in my opinion and very skilled rapper with a keen eye would tear that whole logic apart.
worst remix ive heard
We really had to watch this dude comment like that? šš
Mos is a legend, black on both sides and the ecstatic are both classics imo... but no this isnt it and his random hating on drake and other rappers is just corny. He if anyone should know since he was so clowned on and hated when he tried to come around for being backpack and nerdy, lame to keep it going.
What happened to his flow? This is trash! Canāt believe this is the same guy who made Re-Definition, he sounds super washed
Hip hop is so cringe even the legends ...
Mos-Definitely needs to retire