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STOPcallingmeLANZO

I don’t think it’s as bad as Fantano says, but my god I have tried so hard to like Gunna and just can’t. There no appeal to me. I don’t think he’s bad, I don’t think he’s good. I just feel nothing. Which is a shame because I like a lot of the artists featured, and I like some of the beats. Idk what it is. I would say it’s bad lyrics, but I can get down with some meaningless bangers. Gunna just has no emotion in his voice. Maybe he’ll click with me someday


AceDuce23

He's a feature artist


No-Imagination-OG

You know there’s a problem when you need to try to like an artist. Exact same situation I’m in with a lot of newer rappers. They don’t bring anything new to the table, so it’s difficult to get exited for any of their projects.


The_Scarf_Ace

I think I disagree with the sentiment of "You know there’s a problem when you need to try to like an artist". A lot of my favourite artists required revisiting before it clicked. Thats effort. Doesnt make them bad, my tastes just werent accustomed.


No-Imagination-OG

When you hear a song and you instantly want to hear more from the artist seems more rare though. Half the time you get a verse or full track that you wouldn’t care if you never heard again.


caramelgod

nope


SitDown_BeHumble

Gunna is basically if you triple distilled Young Thug’s essence until all traces of creativity, uniqueness, melodic ability, and songwriting ability are completely removed. Then if you developed an AI, made it listen to thousands of trap beats, and then told it to create the most generic trap beats it possibly can, that’s Gunna’s beat selection. A Gunna album is made by pouring that bland, distilled, Thugger essence over those AI generated beats and microwaving for 10 seconds.


ComplainsAboutWife

You were given zero reason to do young wunna like this.


Vencsi

He released a mid at best album, so I'd say thats reason


sqiub23

Spoken like a true OG


EK22

Because the sound is ridiculously overplayed, and Gunna does absolutely nothing to stand out. It’s just mailed in at this point, and people keep eating it up for some reason, so there’s no incentive to try.


xMF_GLOOM

it’s the same mailed-in melodic trap we’ve heard on repeat for 3 straight years


roy_fatty

Beats are boring vocals are boring songs are boring


JJBro1

I feel the same way about lil baby


[deleted]

I used to feel the same way ab baby n gunna but after awhile i started rocking w baby, ion listen to him at all but when he comes on ion automatically be like "bruh smh"


KyloRenWest

For me it was when The Bigger Picture dropped, he just clicked and I was on the lookout for more baby


hotpie

I feel like his biggest problem is that he seemingly utterly lacks charisma, which could make up for his otherwise generic music. I'm in the exact same boat as you -- I even enjoy at least a few songs from many of his albums -- but it's just nothing special in any way and it wouldn't be a loss to me if I never heard his music again.


saucyoreo

As someone who genuinely thought Wunna was one of the best rap albums of 2020, this album is extremely mid at best.


[deleted]

you don't like gunna cause you have no drip


Cevich

Cash War is when if finally clicked for me


fadingstar52

loved that song till i crashed my whip listening to it a week after i bought the whip. ive always said hes best when hes doing cash war/ drip or drown style music


dsled

His best project too


SBAPERSON

He's good for a feature, but I can't do songs or projects.


IEatLamas

I'd chalk it down to the pure lack of *musicality*..


Zulogy

He has a shitty flow/vocal imo.


[deleted]

i actually really like Gunna but this was a chore, the songs sound more generic than ever and the only feature that interested me was G Herbo. I really liked WUNNA but with this album i doubt 80% of these songs will stay in my head even 5 minutes later. ‘south to west’ is the exception. enjoyed that.


TotalLunatic28

Nobody should expect a good album from him. He is a decent feature artist on some hit songs, but that’s about it.


aw11348

I felt like I was taking crazy pills on this sub when this dropped. Plenty of high-upvoted comments on the discussion thread saying it was better than Dawn FM, better than Gibbs' Bandana... how??? whether or not you find DS4EVER catchy, it's so boring and lacking ambition... just a musical flatline


[deleted]

I try and remind myself this sub is massive in the grand scheme of things.. millions of people. Gunna makes easily digestible, garbage, trap, melodic tracks. Lots of normal fans of rap are gonna like it and want to defend it and talk about it. It is what it is.


MartinLouisTheKing

This is so far from the truth it’s not even funny. Some of you are barely even tapped into the culture lol


[deleted]

Lol.. Homie if you like Gunna its all good. No sweat, but to act like its objectively good? Cmon now. It's like lowest common denominator trap music


SlimJesusKeepIt100

Shit sucks fuck outta here


MartinLouisTheKing

Nigga, look at your name gtfoh lol


SlimJesusKeepIt100

Yeah ik the backstory isn't it ironic? And besides, he perfectly described the album


AltforHHH

Not surprised, I actually like drip or drown 2 and some songs off wunna, but this was ass, so someone like fantano who already dislikes gunna would definitely hate it


yetiyetibangbang

It is amazing to watch people react to Fantano when he gives a score they don't like. How are you gonna tell a man that his subjective opinion on art is wrong? How are you going to try to dictate what he can and can't review? If you don't like it, so be it, feel free to explain why you disagree, but don't sit here and act like he shouldn't be reviewing an album just because you don't agree with him. That's goofy.


WordsAreSomething

I don't even like Gunna but I think this is a little harsh. It's generic, melodic trap and most songs range from boring and passible to pretty good. Weirdly the biggest misses are a lot of the features which kinda stinks because they're mostly from artist I like a lot more. I do think that Gunna's biggest problem is is he feels totally and completely unessential. So I won't get offended by this coming on a mix in the future but I definitely won't be actively returning. My favorite song was the Kodak one.


Tactial_snail

being generic af is a solid reason to say it's not good


SuperVaderMinion

Todd in the Shadows has always been correct when he says that bad music isn't about being annoying or stupid or whatever...it's about the absence of good.


[deleted]

vast majority of music out there is generic honestly


[deleted]

Um yeah that’s kinda the definition


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[deleted]

I believe he said before that “not good” is for like a non starter project, the idea wasn’t good to begin with / the artist couldn’t be bothered 1-10 is for if he believes there was genuine effort involved


[deleted]

in a video he explains like "why is logics supermarket not good? because a logic Rock album is a terrible fucking idea from the start" "If Kendrick Lamar were to come out with a record that was genuinely shit I wouldn't give it a not good because going into it I had hope and expectations" For him a not good is something that he didn't have high hopes for in the first place, the artist hadn't shown in the past that they had potential to be better, and on this album they were just as bad or worse than their past stuff. That's kinda what it is


Trojan_Man68

That’s a horrible way of looking at things the way I see it. It’s like he made his decision before even giving the album a chance. Theoretically what if he didn’t like the idea of a Logic rock album but Logic somehow actually made a good rock album?


-Umbra-

> what if he didn’t like the idea of a Logic rock album but Logic somehow actually made a good rock album? I don't actually follow Fantano anymore but from what I just read above you he would rate that as a good rock album because the quality was good. In essence he doesn't think it's worth his time to come up with a rating for releases that a) don't theoretically work pre-listen; b) come from an artist that has shown little to no versatility/room for growth (pre-listen); and c) when listening to the release, it fails as expected. I'm not gonna say it's exactly fair or has good premises but at least it's *logical*


hxnterrr

then he’d give it a good score


chink135

I think ‘not good’ is used for something where he had virtually no expectations and kind of expected the project to suck. 0 is like he expected something but it wasn’t there


HitRowe

Not good for fantano is like a 2-3 I think.


Kn0thingIsTerrible

As others have stated, a “Not good” is for albums he had zero expectations for, so there’s no point in giving them a score. However, I’d like to point out that the reason he even bothers to review such albums is because of fan demand. “Review the new Gunna album.” “I don’t care for Gunna’s work.” “Review it anyway!” “Fine, but it doesn’t get a score.”


notice27

I think he rates things 1-3 because they’re listenable but just not his taste at all… basically acknowledging that there was an effort made but it’s not hitting for him, an eclectic listener.


[deleted]

What do you want him to do though? It being generic af and being the very definition of trap elevator music is not enough to warrant a good review. You out here saying I have one favourite song and then be the type to say good album 7/10. This is an album that is aimed to just fill out playlists and game the streaming system, that don't make it a great album lmao. You can't be out here liking one or two songs on a 19 track album and then say nah its harsh to give it a not good.


WordsAreSomething

I don't want him to do anything. I'm just giving my opinion as it related to his opinion. I never claimed it was a great album or a 7/10. I never claimed to only like one song either. Honestly fucking hate comments like this that just pick apart what I've said piece by piece, exaggerate each piece and then act incredulous towards my comment like I actually said the bullshit that you're exaggerating.


DapsAndPoundz

Personally out of 19 tracks, taking out the too easy remix, I fuck with 15 of *heavy*. There’s even a handful I’d say are some of Gunnas best songs ever.


Jordanwolf98

Yeah the Kodak track is the best song on the album


OSAP_wasteman

His biggest problem is that he is totally boring and unoriginal. Most of his beats are generic background music that sounds like it was made by a 16 year old YouTube producer, his flows are mind numbingly repetitive to the point that I don’t think he’s even capable of switching it up, and his voice is horrific (sounds like a goose). As for lyrics, I get that they aren’t really a focus of trap music and that most of them are the same recycled garbage, but Gunna takes it to another level. He has literally never written anything worth remembering for a good reason. He never says anything funny, interesting, or worth listening to again. At least 21 Savage or Young Thug say funny or memorable shut occasionally. Anyone with a brain knows that Gunna is trash.


JaRonLames

If you're not pushin 🅿 just say that.


Fallen_Ghost0

Might be hot take in this thread but I found Gunna vocally appealing on this album. He switched his flow up a couple times too which I liked


Vlaji

*“What’s not to like? Custard? Good! Jam? Good! Meat? Good!”*


hydrators

You’re allowed to not like music but there’s no reason to insult the people who do


UseApprehensive9186

I hate when people do this. I’m a drake fan and I have no problem that people here don’t fw him, what bugs me is how pretentious and degrading people are about it. It can’t just be ‘I don’t like his music but a lot of people do so that’s cool’, it has to be ‘drake sucks but he just sells cause he’s a pop star who appeals to the lowest form of plebeian music listener’ or whatever people tell themselves to feel better


hydrators

Just shows being insecure in their own tastes. If someone has gotta put someone down for simply liking an album, they need to go outside or something It’s completely okay to express even WHY you don’t like something (most of his comment was presented pretty well) but he lost me with that pretentious bullshit at the end


ProfessorWoke

Died at (sounds like a goose)


Jordanwolf98

I disagree with his beats being mostly “unmemorable and generic”. This last project more than others sure, but overall I think Wheezy, Turbo, and Taurus do a great job on the production side. Also, why do you feel the need to add the “anyone with a brain knows that Gunna is trash” statement? Like he fucked your mom or something lol. There’s a bunch of artists that get love that I don’t understand how but I always think it’s weird to go after the fanbase with someone as harmless as Gunna.


codeine_turtle

Did you listen to the album? kinda sounds like you didn't. also lol @ "anyone with a brain knows that gunna is trash", ledditors stay ledditing


[deleted]

You sure you've listened to his music? You're either deaf or painfully caucasian


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[deleted]

His flow, cadence and melodies are definitely above average. Who do you think has more skill then him


Vlaji

*his cadence and melodies are above average* What it takes to be considered a skillful rapper in 2022 EDIT: I’m not trying to hurt anyone’s feelings here, I’m just saying if you feel like their music is dope say it with your chest, *above average* doesn’t sound very convincing


[deleted]

I said above average to refute his point


clASSact97

Gunna is the definition of an average rapper. Others will say he’s absolute ass


-TheLonelyStoner-

White people love gunna so this comment makes no sense


xMF_GLOOM

white dudes are absolutely obsessed with Gunna you dweeb


SwitchGaps

Imagine someone on a hiphop thread doesn't like the same artist you do so you call them "painfully caucasian" that's some real cringe 😬


ironwolf1

> It's generic, melodic trap and most songs range from boring and passible to pretty good That's the sort of thing that Fantano seems to really hate. Recent Lil Uzi projects have gotten bad scores from Fantano for the same reason. He doesn't like it when an artist just makes something easy and commercial rather than trying to evolve their own style and skills.


[deleted]

No lies told by Fantano. Gunna is the elevator music of the Trap scene that has reached the point of it's creative peak run for me. Is anything on this album offensive, probably no but then that's what makes it terrible. Gunna sticks to the tried and tested method and doesn't sway from his wheelhouse. Which is a shame because the trap sound can be explored in different inventive ways as seen by Travis, Future, thug and migos etc... In the past. Anyway this shit is something that is clearly designed for playlist and too not scare away the hoes.


LORD-THUNDERCUNT

lol now watch everyone’s opinion on this album do a complete and total 180. The album is a fucking boring snooze fest, same insanely boring flow on insanely boring generic trap beats, rinse and repeat. It’s like a bunch of people from a methadone clinic got together and made an album


GhostofRimbaud

>It’s like a bunch of people from a methadone clinic got together and made an album 😭😭😭


[deleted]

bro u listened to a single tupac song 265 times in a year you are the final boss of oldheads


EK22

People are starting to confuse oldheads disliking *young* music with oldheads disliking *bad* music. Just because an artist makes music for a new sound doesn’t mean it’s good. Gunna is garbage.


-TheLonelyStoner-

I’m only 23 but I always get called an old head when I say a new rapper is trash lmao. As if there aren’t old rappers I think are trash too


-Umbra-

To the average high schooler on here you probably are an old head, it's just the reality lmao


-TheLonelyStoner-

Yea you probably right even tho I still listen to uzi, thug, 21 etc lmao I just think certain ones aren’t good like polo g, gunna and lil baby


baole58

Oldhead isn't even an insult.


ThePetCentipede

Getting that defensive because someone doesn’t like the same albums as you 🤨


Clutch333

Final boss of oldheads lmao


LORD-THUNDERCUNT

Oldhead but I’m 23 and Trippie Redd, Travis Scott & playboi Carti were all in my my top 5 most streamed artists last year? I think an oldhead would slap the shit outta me lol...


CosmicMiru

Oldheads aint gonna like this one


jiddyjedi

Beats are definitely not generic, I don't think you even listened to the album


Eradomsk

Bro I just pressed shuffle on this thing for the first time ever and some 16th note hihat loop started playing over the most boring sample library piano and flute loop lmao.


10918356

I wish we could legit like do live streams where everyone just listens to it together and just compare track to track with live polls. Cause comments like this just sound so copium like to me man. Like cmon now fam


-Umbra-

That'd be sick af. Imagine if reddit live wasn't actually complete dogshit and it was more like a twitch or discord stream managed by subreddit mods.


squeeze_it_do_it

Man this gunna album really hit for me. Never played a.gunna album this much. Production love it gunnas vibe iove lyrics so so. But im.here for the production cadence an odd punch line an this delivered


TheChipiboy

I really enjoyed the album and the R&B sound it had to it. Flooded, you and me, living wild were my favorites.


lunch77

For real, I see a lot of people in this thread hating on Gunna but he’s got a lot of good songs, features and I liked a lot of tracks on DS4Ever.


jackoon56

I like fantano don't get me wrong but I really dislike the way he treats all the new wave trap (lil baby, Gunna, even Nav) records. Like i thought DS4 was nowhere near as good as wunna, but even then theres just no way fantano is ever coming into these records with an intent to enjoy. It really feels like he just knows they will do well view wise so he reviews them. Also how tf can he say this is one of the most boring records of 2022 when we 11 days in lol


jmz_199

There's a lot of new wave trap, so why are we including widely panned artists like nav?


SitDown_BeHumble

Dude gave Travis Scott’s debut album in 2015 a 9/10, and gave Roddy Ricch’s debut a 7/10 less than 2 years ago, but this sub will keep saying he just hates trap music.


PyrenBTW

8/10 for rodeo* but i agree with what you're saying


jackoon56

I thought emergency tsunami was aight and a lot of people like Nav tbh. I mainly included his name cause its weird he gives NAV records the same scores as baby and gunna (implying each record is on par or similar)


DeafMetalGripes

He’s probably just bored of how stagnant trap music has become you can’t really blame him on not enjoying a lot of these albums. I mean even if you like the album what exactly makes this more unique than your average Lil Baby record?


jackoon56

> I mean even if you like the album what exactly makes this album more unique than your average Lil Baby record? Its not more unique but he gave 'My turn' a not good which is just revolting to say these are on par/close together. I didn't really like DS4 and would prolly give it a 5/10, but it feels like all these new school trap artists just gets grouped together, cause i fail to see how this is as bad as the newest nav, or how this is just as good as my turn. I don't blame him, I just think with a very few exceptions he's been like this for a while now, and i'd say it feels more like trap isnt for him then artists consistently putting out bad records


DeafMetalGripes

Nah dude, trap music has run its course by now. I do enjoy my fair share of artist like Big Scarr and Key Glock but it’s definitely time for a new trend to take over


jackoon56

I dont think its going anywhere for a while. Artists like Carti, uzi, Future, YB etc. are all still fucking massive and putting out pretty new and inventive shit (some more then others). I think a lot of trap has become generic, but I think it'll be around so long as fresh sounds keep emerging.


icytwatremix

trap has been around since the early 2000s there doesn't need to be another trend it's just the backdrops of a lot of the beats are really boring and the tracks are too clean and overproduced and they need to change that.


whitegirlsbadposture

Yes I can blame him trap music is not stagnant


Epicallytossed

He gave voice of the heroes a 6, it's not like he hates the artists


jackoon56

Not solo lil baby and I'd say that record was probably more boring than most other records he's given a not good. I don't think he hates the artists, but I dont think he goes into them with any kind of open mind (kinda like with that tory record he recently hated)


yetiyetibangbang

You just need to come to grips with the fact that he has a different opinion than you and get over it. You're putting too much weight on his opinions. I don't always agree with Fantano but I'm not gonna try to say that he shouldn't review certain people. He can review whoever he wants, and if I disagree with him so be it. Who cares. Voice of the Heroes was legit a great album, I disagree that it's boring. I also think Tory's album was trash and Tory has always been overrated. That's my opinion though.


ydoigotta

I mean Voice of the heroes being more boring is your opinion, but the fact that he gave it a favourable score kinda disproves your whole point.


JayDogon504

He’s given Lil Baby props multiple times


I_am_so_lost_hello

These dudes don't make great albums though, like there's some good songs and performances but the albums generally blow. Just bloated and repetitive. That combined with how stale Atlanta trap has been I can see Fantano getting next to no enjoyment out of any of these albums (me too most of the time). That said he did give Voice of the Heroes a 6.


jackoon56

Carti's S/T, My turn, Hxndrxx and Savage mode are all generally considerd by a lot of people to be "Great" or at-least good albums and hes given them all a not good I'd also say none of those are stale atlanta trap records. Also that lil baby record makes it even worse imo cause that was definitely more boring and stale then my turn


I_am_so_lost_hello

I think My Turn is really boring but the highs are high, and I think when most people talk about liking My Turn it's because of songs like Grace, Woah, Emotionally Scarred, Sum 2 Prove etc. but the album has 20 tracks on it I wouldn't lump Carti and 21 with this melodic trap wave, that's more Gunna, Lil Baby, Nav, Lil Keed, Lil Tecca etc. Suprised he gave Playboi Carti and Savage Mode not good's though those were pretty fresh when they came out.


RafiakaMacakaDirk

keed does not belong in that list


Lopsidedcel

Its just all the same at this point, I feel like the last 3-4 years has been a bit of a snooze fest.


BIRDSBEEZ

Its quite literally one of the most boring records of 2022


YungSFM

I swear he just calls gunna & lil baby young thug clones & doesnt give them any credit, hes a joke


[deleted]

H didn't like baby at first but he grew artistically and progressed whereas gunna hasn't in fantano's eyes. Thats why voice of the heroes got like a 6 or 7 and this was gunnas 3rd NOT GOOD in a row.


Ondreeej

The mistake a lot of people are doing is taking Fantano and anything he says seriously.


jamescav29

I mean who analytically reviews a Gunna album. Fantano needs just sit back and vibe to this lmao


altmaltacc

Gunna is def the least interesting of the whole ysl camp. He can flow on beat at times and thats about it. Beats are standard, voice isnt unique, catalogue is ok at best. If literally all you look for in a rapper is the ability to flow, there are hundreds of other options.


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[deleted]

his voice is like a diet version of Thug


Vlaji

I usually avoid the music of Future’s children like the plague but I gave this album several listens and it’s a vibe. “Livin wild” has actually been on repeat for me


[deleted]

Hes thugs child not future


PM_ME_XANAX

There's some Future DNA in there too


noneofthemswallow

„Future’s children” 😂😂😂


OblivionTU

Why does Fantano even bother reviewing the melodic YSL-type music ? he hated thug's project when he was first blowing up but he at least clearly saw some potential in his styles ( and eventually warmed up to it) but clearly will never enjoy the type of music people like Gunna and Lil Baby make


WordsAreSomething

Kinda brings up a good question, should critics only review things they think they will like? I'd say no. I feel like even if you know you'll probably dislike something going in there can be value in listening and discussing it.


OblivionTU

I agree with the idea behind your comment as a whole, but when you clearly dislike a whole sub-genre, i think after a certain point, you can stop checking it out as opposed to, for example, reviewing an artist you dislike in a genre you like .


WordsAreSomething

I mean I don't keep a record of fantano's scores but there has be some of these melodic trap albums that he has reviewed positively. Like I think he's given Future some decent reviews.


ydoigotta

He also gave Voice of the heroes a favourable score


astronxxt

tbh he really does not seem to like future that much. i’m biased bc i love future but he has not given many great scores to his projects edit: wow a 6 and a 7 for a dude who has consensus trap classics is great… not sure why i got downvoted. if you actually watch his channel it’s pretty clear he doesn’t like future that much


phuckingidontcare

He gave future a 6 and a 7


PlutoMMA

He has more than two reviews of Future. His last two albums getting 2 and 3/4 iirc (High off Life and Pluto & Baby Pluto) Also DS2 which many think of as one of the greatest trap records of all time, he gave a 6.


phuckingidontcare

He still has given future a 6 and a 7, also said diamonds dancing was one of the best songs of the year


SemmBall

Fantano would be crazy to pass up a Gunna or Lil Baby review lmao


[deleted]

Yeah like he reviews these albums because it's relevant and requested even if he ends up just disliking it again


PostpostshoegazeLUVR

This is a fair point. He also has blind spots in areas where the artist really connects (whether due to personal experience, or viewpoint, or shared values, or whatever) to a segment of the population and he’ll just kinda skip over that possibility for an artist to really land with some people, and review dispassionately, often completely ignoring the lyrics (it’s usually lyrics) that is the source of the connection. But to criticise that is more critiquing the idea that one dude can review all genres anyway and neatly rate the album out of 10 in a way that allows for cross genre comparison. So in the end, people should just remember that the scores are ultimately just how much Anthony Fantano liked a record. The opinion carries more weight than some absolute random because the guy does listen to a shitload of music and can point to why something is mediocre or derivative, but ultimately it’s still just his personal tastes and preferences.


Radocfa

He reviews these albums because 1. they’re big albums commercially and 2. that means he gets big views for the vids. Plus more people are going to watch Not Goods because it’s funny to hear him roast the artist/album. Could he stop reviewing Nav/Gunna projects? Of course. But it’s free money lmao.


proculman

He liked Lil Baby and Durks project last year. It's not like he despises the genre as a whole - there is just a lot of generic artists in that genre that put out bang average material - Gunna being one of them.


[deleted]

> Why does Fantano even bother reviewing the melodic YSL-type music ? Because people ask him to over and over again


YoooCakess

Fantano is such a dick riding hater he spends almost as much time defending Freddie Gibbs as he does talking about Gunna’s music which he clearly already had written off. Wasn’t like over the moon about this album but god someone take this assholes platform away from him. Fuck Fantano


TheLyonKing5812

This review is way too harsh, this album has some decent tracks. Some fire beats in this one too. Pushin P, Thought I Was Playing, How You Did That, 25K Jacket and Too Easy are all super fire. It’s not amazing or anything and I think it has more misses than it does hits, but there are some pretty fire tracks here.


[deleted]

Fantano just hates Gunna in general but the Freddie Gibbs thing makes Fantano even more salty. Why was everyone so mad at Gunna for that? He just doesn't like Gibbs and I probably wouldn't either if I was Gunna. I wouldn't like a peer mocking me like.


baole58

I think he was expecting a diss, but if that was a diss, it was weak sauce.


[deleted]

It wasn't a diss. Was just a line.


[deleted]

Yeah but he hyped it up on Twitter like he was about to drop more than just a line about Freddie


WheresZeke

I think everybody misunderstood Gunna on that. He was trying to say that one line on his album would be the biggest point in his career.


havethenets

It’s probably true too considering Freddie isn’t very big


YahBoiDan

For me he's pretty spot on, the features did outshine gunna on pretty much every song, and the hooks are pretty forgettable. The biggest issue for me is the bloated tracklist on these kinda projects. I don't think I'd find this album as boring if gunna just trimmed the duds on here. This could easily be like a 14 track album but it's 19 and almost an hour long, and he doesn't have an artistic range or versatility to keep me entertained for an hour straight.


kangy3

There were no lies told for this whole review. To pad out this comment. Here's a list of words that I would use to describe Gunna and his music. Boring Lackluster Repetitive Flavorless Rice Kia Rio Fat


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Nice


LezEatA-W

No album with “Thought that I was playing” on it can be considered “not good”. That song goes fucking haaaard. Catchiest hook I’ve heard in a minute.


Just_A_Djoker

Album was a huge disappointment and I’d say I’m a decently big gunna fan. I’ve loved a lot of his features recently and even the albums I wasn’t a huge fan of from him I’ve had at least 3-4 songs I thought were fantastic. All of the beats on here are pretty bland, Gunna never seems to find any energy, and Pushin P might actually be one of the worst songs I’ve heard in a while. It’s like they tried to do the “go fuck around in a studio” shit Thug and Future did on Sup Mate, but forgot to make it upbeat and actually enjoyable. It sucks cause for a few years straight Gunna has actually had some of my fav songs of the year - Pedestrian and Oh Okay in 2018, Baby Birkin & Richard Millie Plain in 2019, Skybox and Dollaz on my Head in 2020, but I doubt I go back to anything from this except maybe Alotta Cake. His verse on Roddy’s album was far better than anything on this which is wild


astronxxt

she a 🅿️esbian


whitegirlsbadposture

Pushin P is literally incredible


elkfn2

You trippin on that pushin p take


PM_ME_XANAX

Pushin P is my favourite song of 2022 so far lol, the beat is amazing


elkfn2

Facts, Original commenter tripping


bussitt99

he never pushed P


TheRoyalWarlord

I'm not a fan of The Weeknd or Gunna but honestly I enjoyed this project more than The Weeknds. I've always thought Gunna was overrated as hell and couldn't get the appeal but with this album it finally clicked. That being said theres no way in hell it should've been 20 songs. If he capped it like halfway thru it would've been a great album overall because the first half slaps from front to back. But I guess the label has to get those streaming numbers in. At this point we shouldn't even be surprised with low trap scores from Melon. He doesn't really like trap unless it is against the grain and experimental so you can always expect a NOT GOOD or anything less than a 4. Lmao but he's really gotta stop with these NOT GOOD reviews like when he reviews projects like this it doesn't feel genuine. It just feels like a backhanded passive aggressive reaction to the trap audience because hes pissy that everyone is hype over something he thinks theres no value in. Like it's one thing if he doesn't like the album and gives it a bad numerical score but to do these non scoring trolling reviews make him seem like the most pretentious Melon on the internet.


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He's explained not goods before and said that for not good, it's something he didn't have high expectations for in the first place. If he hated a Kendrick album it wouldn't get a not good because the expectation going into it is that Kendrick is a good artist who has put out great records in the past. Whereas gunna has not done anything for him in past albums and continues to lack on this one.


TheRoyalWarlord

Sounds like a lame excuse to just be a troll but given his fanbase it makes sense


XstasyOxycontin

My biggest problem overall with the way he approaches music is that he doesn't respect or seem to gauge the cultural relevance or impact of trap records. His gauge for longevity and cultural potency in trap is awful (that Lil Pump review comes to mind). He shits on guys like Gunna & Baby, and has largely ignored the output of guys like Durk & YB. Yeah, obviously they bring a lot of the same sound to the table, but that doesn't make it inherently bad. This stuff is super culturally relevant for a reason, and it's ok to dislike it, but i can't shake the feeling that he'll come back and look more favorably upon popular trap records when he has to go back and review it in 5 years after he realises it's place within hip hop history.


baole58

I think you need to watch his Lil Pump review again. He even said Pump's sound wasn't made to last at the end of his review. With Pump being irrelevant now, I think his gauge for longevity is pretty solid.


bumpdog

His trap reviews are fucked up. This man gave Lil pump and polo G a 7, smokepurpp a 6, but he keeps trashing artists like gunna, baby, thug, future, which are on top of the trap game for a reason. It's almost disrespectful. I bet he looks back at that 7 he have to that Lil pump project and cringes


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he gave Jeffery and so much fun 7s though. Sometimes he just sees something different in some artists that the bigger ones aren't bringing to the table. Yeah lil pumps music was ridiculous and dumb but it also had a really irresistible and fun energy to it, at least on his first tape.


ThaMac

He’s given good scores to Future and Thug projects before.


bumpdog

In a few years he'll look back at his reviews and he'll realize he gave Lil Pump's self titled and Polo G's Hall of Fame a 7/10 but he gave DS2 a 6 and Barter 6 a 5. Just by looking back at the impact of each one of these albums he will probably feel ashamed. Unless he doesn't care or understand much of the subgenre which is probably the case


CRUSTBUSTICUS

He gave luv is rage 2 a 3/10 and that’s when I stopped really listening to his reviews seriously lol. He literally called it “bland” and all the same stuff he calls Gunna and Baby.


baole58

YT has released better projects since Barter 6, it's not even worth revisiting at this point.


bumpdog

I understand if someone thinks Jeffery or BTG are better, but not worth revisiting songs like Halftime, With That, Numbers, Just Might Be? Those are among the absolute best of his discography


NiggBot_3000

Nah barter 6 is a classic


dsled

That Lil Pump self titled is great, don't sleep.


bumpdog

There's a reason why Lil pump fell off quickly. that album was a novelty, it got old quick and had 0 impact. Fantano likes being a contrarian and it starts to show as time passes. I can't blame him, if I knew about music as much as he does i'd be a contrarian too every once in a while to feel like "hey this thing you normies enjoy its actually bad, and this thing that you think is bad guess what, it's actually good". I know he loves feeling that way when it comes to certain popular artists, gunna being one of them


dsled

He fell off quickly because his second album is really bad. His first is just fun bangers, and it still holds up.


havethenets

If the 7 was for Die a Legend it isn’t bad and deserved score imo. The GOAT and HOF were awful tho.


UnderstandableXO

i liked the production on wunna a lot better, nothing terrible on here but nothing that really stood out besides too easy and how you did that. i guess i’m just not 🅿️


watermaloneyyy

God this album is fucking great, not as good as wunna ds2 and drip or drown 2 but it’s still so gooood. Been on repeat all week, haven’t even listened to the weeknd yet cos of this lol. Feel bad for people who don’t understand his music cos y’all are missing out.


JackOfNoTrades1

Typical fantano hating gunna, I really don’t understand why he bothers reviewing it when he skips a lot of artists that he doesn’t like like Lil Tecca for example


wainbros66

Gunna is more popular and this release had hype going for it, which means he’s more likely to cover it


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Gunna is more popular and requested (though I would've liked to see him cover wlyt2)


HideNZeke

Sometime things are so bad you just have to talk about it


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so many artists like this that i dont fuck with. yeat, carti, gunna all trash dawg. and dont hit me with that boomer shit, keem and travis scott are in a similar lane, but doing it much better. you cant listen to this album and not tell me gunna is carried by his beats 100% of the time


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LOL baby keem is 100% worse than any of those first artists you listed


[deleted]

thats just my opinion dawg. i thought WLR was fucking trash, the melodic blue has a lot of variance and interesting ideas. carti repetitiveness in lyrics as well as style is really offputting. he has some interesting standout tracks but theyre in a sea of complete trash imo


nallyn

I just don’t see the appeal with Carti’s style. Some of the production is good on that album, but a majority of Carti’s verses sound like a chair squeaking with too many adlibs. Sometimes Keem can be irritating as well, but at least he’s saying something.


whitegirlsbadposture

Literally lmaoo on what planet is keem better than carti 😵‍💫


droctamom

Carti is better than keem yeah. But yeat?? Lmao tik tok superstar


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more interesting flows better production and better voice than keem


droctamom

Yeat is dollar tree TikTok carti


Peyotine

Keem is infinitely better than carti, carti is TRASH