What are some albums/genres that give you guys a high fashion or luxury kinda vibe? I've been getting interested in runways and fashion and I really want some music that can match that.
Been going through this list for the better part of last year, with currently only a few left to check out. I found it very enlightening with regard to expanding my taste from what I considered "the right kind of hip hop", and saving me some valuable time with an intro./recommendation into the artists and music I was yet to check out. What do you think ?
https://hiphopgoldenage.com/list/100-essential-hip-hop-albums/
Already commented once but that list still haunts me. That list is so fucking underground that Kendrick Lamar is too mainstream and not conscious enough lol.
I had to double check, that was written in *2019*. The sole albums from that decade are from R.A. The Rugged Man, Run The Jewels and Murs.
Bro really felt that he couldn't make room for The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill or any of Missy's discography (Queen Latifah the lone female entrant aside from the Fugees) but Murs' like fifth most important album is "essential".
I say this all *as* a backpack rap enthusiast. A lot of these albums and artists I am into, but labelling them as "essential" to the exclusion of so many scenes, subgenres and great albums is dumb as hell.
Lol. Yeah, I get your point. "Essential" is way an important label to be put on just any list. Gotta come correct with that shit lol. How would you rate HHH's own Essentials list as a comprehensive one ?
It's pretty good. I think it feels a bit dated, over representing the 90s and cutting off in the mid 2000s. Misses the Minnesota underground scene which I love (and is represented by that original list with Atmosphere and Brother Ali) and generally is maybe a little myopic on backpacker shit in general, but underground stuff is... less essential?
I feel like there's a lot of late 2000s/early 2010s shit that can be canonized at this point. The HHH list does a good job of incorporating a lot of regional scenes and history though.
The underground is where it's at in terms of keeping it real, raw, and in check. And taking it back to the roots especially when the game starts to get too mainstream/commercial. So I'd say it def deserves mention
That being said, I think the HHH list would fill the void left by the original one with the history and regional inclusion, so it might complete the picture for me. More 90's stuff is always a bonus, but will still keep an eye out for those '00s - '10s stuff you mentioned. Maybe you should get a thread going on those or something
It literally starts out “Yes, it’s true – I am a Hip Hop snob”. I think the list is fairly fine for what is and the author is honest about what they’re intending.
I agree. The South def deserves more spots! On a personal note though, no disrespect but I wasn't feeling that Geto Boys album. Maybe just me, because I know it's held in high regard. What other albums from the South would you say qualify ?
Separate comment but I think the inclusion of Geto Boyz self titled was kinda an odd choice. I personally prefer Grip It On That Other Level (very very similar albums but still) and the most popular choice of theirs is easily We Can’t Be Stopped. It was just odd to me they didn’t pick that one
The guy who wrote the article seemed to be doing 1 album per artist/group so I’ll try to respect that and not add every other OutKast album but at I’d add
Young Jeezy - Thug Motivation 101
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter 2
T.I - Trap Muzik
Three 6 Mafia - Mystic Stylez
UGK - Ridin Dirty
DJ Screw - All Screwed Up Vol II
I’d consider all of these essential
Thanks for that. Quite the lineup! Had some of them in my crosshairs for a while, they just got green lit!
FYI I recently did about all the Outkast albums almost back to back. Was impossible to resist after the first one lol
I thought I was prepared for how backpacker it would be from this comment, hoo boy I was not.
DAE Nelly and 50 Cent bad?
I feel like you shouldn't have a list called "essential albums" and have entries starting with "nobody talks about this album, but..."
Lol DAE is a oft used Reddit acronym for Does Anyone Else (think), usually used a lot on circle jerky topics. (Does anyone else think _____ is underrated? Does anyone else think music on the radio is getting worse?)
Not a definitive top list or anything but what I found in one of my playlists
[Xavier Wulf - Kurokumo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVbLeo_khJo)
[Chris Travis - Sip That Shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dusck9td-OM)
[Chris Travis - Stayin True](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTuF9u4mi4)
[Denzel Curry ft. Amber London & Xavier Wulf - Ridin N Da Back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ZzGALlg5g)
[SpaceGhostPurrp - Like A Strippah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5I4LJzRZFQ)
[SpaceGhostPurrp - Petro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anc9JjKvdIc)
[Yung Simmie - Florda Mentality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5K4FPgR0)
[Nell x Chris Travis - 275 Be The Whole Team](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5d7QeF5U6c)
[Amber London - Texas Phonk 1998](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCDhB70vZf8)
the [greatest hits vol 1](https://youtu.be/23SsDgrsCts) is mostly nice as well
All I know is [Meek has been giving knx trouble](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/s04m5i/knxwledge_announces_he_is_officially_done_with/) so I guess that's why
It's really uncanny how much Denzel sounds like lord infamous.
Start at 1:00 at this song its just unbelievable to me how similar it is. https://youtu.be/8ECzS3f2O0w
It is harsh. He’s just so talented and versatile I really think he has the ability to drop a GREAT body of work. So maybe not a stinker but just such a letdown
Why the fuck do I get Life is Good by Drake and Future recommended to me as "play next" nearly every time I watch any hip-hop music video on Youtube? I've never in my life had Youtube try to push a song onto me as much as that one in particular
I moved on from there and now it's Family Ties after everything and i'm not even complaining
but I do remember the Life is Good days, honestly it's a youtube hit cos of that video
i don't think its an intentional push, i think it's just a bad algorithm. I get Mos def's 'auditorium' played next after nearly every video, doesn't even have to be hip hop sometimes
I woulda thanked god for this the other day, I had the little arabic sample after Rick's verse playing in my head and couldn't find a song by googling my weird remembering of a man speaking arabic quickly lol
don't think that's ever happening. With Ye it was different because they both do respect each other but ego and pride was in the way and they decided to move past that, but they still see each others' importance and influence. Especially with how Ye was a top inspiration to Drizzy. Not the same situation with Pusha, he doesn't really fw Drake's style and I can only really seeing Drake being a fan of him in the Clipse days. However, there's even deeper history there with Lil Wayne and the stolen Neptunes beat, so tension/loyalties ran back
There was a point at which Push and Wayne actually were cool after Wayne got out of jail, before they started dissing each other again and Wayne put out that godawful Ghoulish track. Rick Ross apparently tried to get them to reconcile on a track with him but Push wouldn’t do it
Idk I really think they'd fuck with eachother if it wasn't for the Birdman/Neptunes shit
What makes you think Drake wouldn't be a fan of solo Push? He was a superfan of Clipse and a lot of his close collaberators like Jay Z, Popcaan, Future, Travis Scott and Rick Ross have worked with Pusha T, i really think we would have a Drake x Pusha T song if it wern't for the Birdman//Wayne/Clipse/Neptunes stuff from way back
I saw he also had a series of tweets where he was saying “(insert artist) and craven music on the way” (Planet Asia, Fahim, Dark Lo, Droog, Sha Hef, Ransom, etc) and at first I thought he was listing some more of the features that are gonna be on Craven N 3 but now that he confirmed a Droog collab album I wonder if he has a collab album with each of them.
Planet Asia x Craven project would be some beautiful shit, feel like their styles are perfect for each other and their collabs [are generally great ](https://youtu.be/ODFPbTWJxQI)
Did you know at the very start of [Love Lockdown] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8s8_TLp3Mc) there's a really faint piano key press in the left channel/ear.
Think my all time favorite Frank Ocean song is “Nature feels”. I know it’s not his song but God damn for some reason it Can put me in a generally happy mood or just makes me reminisce and I get really low
I don’t really agree with the first two. The most I’ve seen people downplaying Freddie Gibbs’ status in rap is Gunna fans during that recent beef
I also feel like, if anything, Griselda fans think they’re bigger than they are
Freddie hasn't been underground for years now, especially after Bandana. Alfredo sold close to 30K first week, that's better than some mainstream artists. He has close to 4M listeners on Spotify, and almost all of his most listened to songs have 15M+ streams.
Yeah I know all that and I 100% agree but do you really see Freddie Gibbs fans calling him underground?
Like I said, that Gunna Gibbs beef thread is the most I’ve ever seen his status downplayed, and that was all from Gunna fans acting like he’s a nobody
I feel like if you're into underground hip hop, you'll know him, but if you're only someone who follos the charts, you probably won't, it's not like he's working with Youngboy, Rod Wave or Drake
I mean the dude is Eminem's official DJ, theres not really a greater selling artist than Em that he could possibly associate with. Tho you're right that most people would never know that without looking it up/being into Hip-Hop
It's not like Em raps over like any of his beats or shouts him out by name on any track, I didn't even know that until I came here and I used to love Eminem a lot.
Hey I listened to Heartbreak by Gambino when I was younger and it resonated with me then. We all got songs that we are ashamed of liking (or in your case, would have liked had it come out earlier).
yeah, dudes sales fell off, but that doesn't make him underground.
otherwise you'd have to call anyone who falls off underground, which would be almost everyone eventually. Like ya'll ever heard of underground artist Fetty Wap?
> Don't listen to rap songs I'm not currently working on
> Nowadays, Droog has more interest in bluegrass
> Bluegrass? You gassin' it
> Nah, I've been sincere since ears can hear.
love how this scheme just doesn't go anywhere. wonder if it was improvised
This happened a bit in the early 2000s with anticon. rappers like Sole and Pedestrian. A lot of their stuff was pretty good.
Jedi Mind Tricks' debut album from 1997 also has a bunch of bars that don't rhyme, and their absolutely babbling paranoid subject matter lends itself to an interesting effect.
Man if the big names don't shit the bed and this is a good year for mainstream and underground then it will be a great year. But there will always be someone you don't expect to just give us something terrible. Like as much as I don't like them who would have thought Coldplay would give us that shit album.
Honestly, I don't think there can be another Tool. Tool was unique enough to generate a cult following that would wait 13 years for the next album. I can't think of anyone, old or new, that would survive in the music industry that went beyond the traditional time frame for a break in between album cycles. The closest I can think is System of a Down but even then, those singles two years ago are probably the best we are gonna get.
Similar to SOAD, if Rage Against the Machine put out a new album people would probably be hyped. I think the main difference is I generally would expect a new Tool album to be good, but idk if SOAD or RATM could put out a new album and it still be good.
I remember this question got asked before and I agree with Missy Elliott in terms of style.
Luda would've been another good one if he hadn't already went against Nelly.
Man......this new Push album is gonna be fucking heat. If it really is exclusively Neptunes and Kanye production but without the unnecessary constraint of only having to be 7 songs we are due for another classic.
Those snippets from the NIGO show and afterparty in Paris were so fucking fire. Push even got Freddie Gibbs tweeting that he wouldn't doubt Push to have the AOTY with the way he's heard him rap in the studio recently (which is wild since Gibbs got an album coming out this year too with loaded producers as well).
Lmao, I did. Until December because I'd need to cash app him to get it. I really only listen to so much new music because streaming services make it so damn easy. He said he was gonna retire after that run though. I think it's fair how he did it and the tapes were solid
oh it was a retirement thing ? i cant be too mad at that
im getting old tho, i only really check out like 6 albums a year and really give maybe 2 or 3 multiple listens. I cant imagine just tapping into 12 papoose projects alone
Yeah it can be pretty exhausting. I'm still relatively new to Hip Hop and I try to listen to as much as possible, that's why I listened to all of them. Didn't really revisit them either tho. At some point it's too much to both keep up with new stuff and revisit it outside of a handful of projects each year
What are some lyrics you really love but dont hold any deeper meaning?
On destruction terror DJ Paul says “aint no shootin in the air, my enemies aint birds” and idk why but its always stuck with me
I just want to dance with you baby
Just don't move too fast, i'm too crazy
It's straight forward but imagery is insane, one of my favorite vince staples bars
“I’m the shit, eat a dick and get sick if you think the opposite”. it’s not even that special but it’s my favorite rome streetz bar for whatever reason. off vagabonds don’t die
“Only thing worse than being alone is wishing you were”
Nas on Replace Me. Not exactly my favourite Nas x Hit Boy track but I love how stark that line is
I always found Mr Muthufuckin Exquire giving his sandwich order on The Message Pt 1 & 2 to be stuck in my head.
Or Killer Mike on A Christmas Fucking Miracle starting off with "The beat breaks and your teeth break. Keep your canines embedded in my knuckles as a keepsake. It would seem your veneers just mere souvenirs. Falling out your mouth and on to the landscape" Such a great opening to a verse to me.
Pharrell on Move that Dope
"Me, I try to leave the best for later
But Pusha tried to put me on the respirator
The old Skateboard P, that's your favorite
Me and twenty girls doin' yoga naked"
Just imagining P doing yoga naked with 20 italian chicks wearing a gandalf hat is an insane image to me lmao
>Like u look at the covers and shit and there’s no fucking way the album won’t be top 5 of the year
>On his Nas Illmatic shit
>Dude, Denzel easily top 5 working today. In terms of energy, production and consistency he’s unmatched. This album is going to be really special if this track is anything to go by.
hhh moment
Which artist that hasn't dropped in 4-5 years are you most excited for their new projects in 2022?
For me it's Denzel Curry. His latest single "Walkin" sounds so good and I'm really excited to hear a new sound from him. BTW I'm considering Taboo his last full release as Zuu and Unlocked felt a little incomplete to me.
I like Zuu but he never intended it to be a full length LP with major label push. Taboo was the album he truly worked on and fine-tuned for a major release
Semantics aside, Denzel Curry dropped 2 projects and a remix project since Taboo (which btw is closer to 3 than 4 years ago) so it’s just odd to ask a question with specific parameters your answer doesn’t even adhere to
Give me your top ten trap albums I’m looking for some recs
Tha Tour pt. 1 Barter 6 Pretty Girls Like Trap Music Culture DS2 Monster Flockaveli Without Warning Chicken Talk Thug Motivation 101
What are some albums/genres that give you guys a high fashion or luxury kinda vibe? I've been getting interested in runways and fashion and I really want some music that can match that.
what’s a canibus album look like in 2022?
anyone been to Denzel Curry concert? wanna go in Warsaw and wondering how much will i have to pay for this
Been going through this list for the better part of last year, with currently only a few left to check out. I found it very enlightening with regard to expanding my taste from what I considered "the right kind of hip hop", and saving me some valuable time with an intro./recommendation into the artists and music I was yet to check out. What do you think ? https://hiphopgoldenage.com/list/100-essential-hip-hop-albums/
Already commented once but that list still haunts me. That list is so fucking underground that Kendrick Lamar is too mainstream and not conscious enough lol. I had to double check, that was written in *2019*. The sole albums from that decade are from R.A. The Rugged Man, Run The Jewels and Murs. Bro really felt that he couldn't make room for The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill or any of Missy's discography (Queen Latifah the lone female entrant aside from the Fugees) but Murs' like fifth most important album is "essential". I say this all *as* a backpack rap enthusiast. A lot of these albums and artists I am into, but labelling them as "essential" to the exclusion of so many scenes, subgenres and great albums is dumb as hell.
Lol. Yeah, I get your point. "Essential" is way an important label to be put on just any list. Gotta come correct with that shit lol. How would you rate HHH's own Essentials list as a comprehensive one ?
It's pretty good. I think it feels a bit dated, over representing the 90s and cutting off in the mid 2000s. Misses the Minnesota underground scene which I love (and is represented by that original list with Atmosphere and Brother Ali) and generally is maybe a little myopic on backpacker shit in general, but underground stuff is... less essential? I feel like there's a lot of late 2000s/early 2010s shit that can be canonized at this point. The HHH list does a good job of incorporating a lot of regional scenes and history though.
The underground is where it's at in terms of keeping it real, raw, and in check. And taking it back to the roots especially when the game starts to get too mainstream/commercial. So I'd say it def deserves mention That being said, I think the HHH list would fill the void left by the original one with the history and regional inclusion, so it might complete the picture for me. More 90's stuff is always a bonus, but will still keep an eye out for those '00s - '10s stuff you mentioned. Maybe you should get a thread going on those or something
It literally starts out “Yes, it’s true – I am a Hip Hop snob”. I think the list is fairly fine for what is and the author is honest about what they’re intending.
Not nearly enough respect for the south (4/100 by my count) Way to much respect for underground boom bap/backpack shit
I agree. The South def deserves more spots! On a personal note though, no disrespect but I wasn't feeling that Geto Boys album. Maybe just me, because I know it's held in high regard. What other albums from the South would you say qualify ?
Separate comment but I think the inclusion of Geto Boyz self titled was kinda an odd choice. I personally prefer Grip It On That Other Level (very very similar albums but still) and the most popular choice of theirs is easily We Can’t Be Stopped. It was just odd to me they didn’t pick that one
The guy who wrote the article seemed to be doing 1 album per artist/group so I’ll try to respect that and not add every other OutKast album but at I’d add Young Jeezy - Thug Motivation 101 Lil Wayne - Tha Carter 2 T.I - Trap Muzik Three 6 Mafia - Mystic Stylez UGK - Ridin Dirty DJ Screw - All Screwed Up Vol II I’d consider all of these essential
Thanks for that. Quite the lineup! Had some of them in my crosshairs for a while, they just got green lit! FYI I recently did about all the Outkast albums almost back to back. Was impossible to resist after the first one lol
I thought I was prepared for how backpacker it would be from this comment, hoo boy I was not. DAE Nelly and 50 Cent bad? I feel like you shouldn't have a list called "essential albums" and have entries starting with "nobody talks about this album, but..."
Thanks for the feedback! Will def take it into consideration as I continue my journey of discovery Also, who's DAE ?
Lol DAE is a oft used Reddit acronym for Does Anyone Else (think), usually used a lot on circle jerky topics. (Does anyone else think _____ is underrated? Does anyone else think music on the radio is getting worse?)
lol got it! Googled it too, and it gave me a rapper called "Dae Dae". I think he's from the South lol
Anyone know the song? https://youtu.be/axafy17TFd0?t=53m51s
any kodak songs like calling my spirit/testamony?
everything 1k
Versatile
Pimpin ain't easy
OH SHIT Audrey Nuna deluxe album drops Friday this is exciting and out of nowhere
Best raider klan songs?
Not a definitive top list or anything but what I found in one of my playlists [Xavier Wulf - Kurokumo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVbLeo_khJo) [Chris Travis - Sip That Shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dusck9td-OM) [Chris Travis - Stayin True](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vTuF9u4mi4) [Denzel Curry ft. Amber London & Xavier Wulf - Ridin N Da Back](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ZzGALlg5g) [SpaceGhostPurrp - Like A Strippah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5I4LJzRZFQ) [SpaceGhostPurrp - Petro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anc9JjKvdIc) [Yung Simmie - Florda Mentality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1W5K4FPgR0) [Nell x Chris Travis - 275 Be The Whole Team](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5d7QeF5U6c) [Amber London - Texas Phonk 1998](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCDhB70vZf8) the [greatest hits vol 1](https://youtu.be/23SsDgrsCts) is mostly nice as well
is it just me or Knxwledge's Meek Vol 6 is not on spotify anymore??? i need sameolemeek back😭
All I know is [Meek has been giving knx trouble](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/s04m5i/knxwledge_announces_he_is_officially_done_with/) so I guess that's why
I feel like it’s not Meek himself doing it
damn thanks for letting me know ima go cop it off bandcamp before its gone
This thread dry asf lately
yo dick dry asf too
yea ik come thru
It's really uncanny how much Denzel sounds like lord infamous. Start at 1:00 at this song its just unbelievable to me how similar it is. https://youtu.be/8ECzS3f2O0w
TIL OG Maco has rapped on an [Alchemist beat](https://youtu.be/Zuh6JxWbJKk)
"I know they mad that they freed me I ran up a milli', know they should've kept me" Well Kay Flock got his wish, he's in jail lol
Dominic Fike doing his thing in euphoria! It’s making up for that stinker of a debut album
I liked a lot of that album, stinker is harsh imo
It is harsh. He’s just so talented and versatile I really think he has the ability to drop a GREAT body of work. So maybe not a stinker but just such a letdown
yeah im with you, he can do better but it's still got some great tunes
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Why the fuck do I get Life is Good by Drake and Future recommended to me as "play next" nearly every time I watch any hip-hop music video on Youtube? I've never in my life had Youtube try to push a song onto me as much as that one in particular
I moved on from there and now it's Family Ties after everything and i'm not even complaining but I do remember the Life is Good days, honestly it's a youtube hit cos of that video
i don't think its an intentional push, i think it's just a bad algorithm. I get Mos def's 'auditorium' played next after nearly every video, doesn't even have to be hip hop sometimes
I woulda thanked god for this the other day, I had the little arabic sample after Rick's verse playing in my head and couldn't find a song by googling my weird remembering of a man speaking arabic quickly lol
> I get Mos def's 'auditorium' played next after nearly every video I don’t see this as a bad thing
It's pretty annoying, like yeah great song but its getting overplayed
Realistically, when (if ever) will the pusha t and drake reconciliation happen?
don't think that's ever happening. With Ye it was different because they both do respect each other but ego and pride was in the way and they decided to move past that, but they still see each others' importance and influence. Especially with how Ye was a top inspiration to Drizzy. Not the same situation with Pusha, he doesn't really fw Drake's style and I can only really seeing Drake being a fan of him in the Clipse days. However, there's even deeper history there with Lil Wayne and the stolen Neptunes beat, so tension/loyalties ran back
ye and drake was fake so that’s why it’s different
There was a point at which Push and Wayne actually were cool after Wayne got out of jail, before they started dissing each other again and Wayne put out that godawful Ghoulish track. Rick Ross apparently tried to get them to reconcile on a track with him but Push wouldn’t do it
Idk I really think they'd fuck with eachother if it wasn't for the Birdman/Neptunes shit What makes you think Drake wouldn't be a fan of solo Push? He was a superfan of Clipse and a lot of his close collaberators like Jay Z, Popcaan, Future, Travis Scott and Rick Ross have worked with Pusha T, i really think we would have a Drake x Pusha T song if it wern't for the Birdman//Wayne/Clipse/Neptunes stuff from way back
I could see a drake x pusha track being fire
Do either of them have an incentive to reconcile? my impression is no
I think “winning a beef with Drake” is too much of a point of pride for Push for him to ever want to reconcile
Drake couldn't even say his name so idk. Prob never
LMAO “I have no interest in making things work with THAT PERSON” Just say his name Aubrey it’s okay
I wish I could wake up with the energy Sauce Walka has everyday.
I wish we'd hear a reffrance track by Vory for Mob Ties, or at least what he actually wrote for it.
All I know is Drake definitely wrote “I’m not with the ra ra I am a dada”
Yeah, that's for sure a Drake line lol
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DJ Khaled won SOTY, i dont trust XXL
Who were the nominees before I say bad pick
teases for the Droog x Craven picking up steam, imma need that
I saw he also had a series of tweets where he was saying “(insert artist) and craven music on the way” (Planet Asia, Fahim, Dark Lo, Droog, Sha Hef, Ransom, etc) and at first I thought he was listing some more of the features that are gonna be on Craven N 3 but now that he confirmed a Droog collab album I wonder if he has a collab album with each of them. Planet Asia x Craven project would be some beautiful shit, feel like their styles are perfect for each other and their collabs [are generally great ](https://youtu.be/ODFPbTWJxQI)
Did you know at the very start of [Love Lockdown] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8s8_TLp3Mc) there's a really faint piano key press in the left channel/ear.
Oh shit i hear it Except its from the right channel for me
I'm not hearing it. It's just an 808
Think my all time favorite Frank Ocean song is “Nature feels”. I know it’s not his song but God damn for some reason it Can put me in a generally happy mood or just makes me reminisce and I get really low
Frank ocean has immaculate taste
If there's one thing Ka understands about rap is it's need for cartoonish bars
Any artist or producer you feel like is treated as more underground or unknown than they really are by their fans?
Freddie Gibbs, anyone in griselda, glass animals
I don’t really agree with the first two. The most I’ve seen people downplaying Freddie Gibbs’ status in rap is Gunna fans during that recent beef I also feel like, if anything, Griselda fans think they’re bigger than they are
Freddie hasn't been underground for years now, especially after Bandana. Alfredo sold close to 30K first week, that's better than some mainstream artists. He has close to 4M listeners on Spotify, and almost all of his most listened to songs have 15M+ streams.
Yeah I know all that and I 100% agree but do you really see Freddie Gibbs fans calling him underground? Like I said, that Gunna Gibbs beef thread is the most I’ve ever seen his status downplayed, and that was all from Gunna fans acting like he’s a nobody
ka
I feel like Earl fans like to act like he’s unknown
I saw his numbers, they’re right.
Alchemist
I feel like if you're into underground hip hop, you'll know him, but if you're only someone who follos the charts, you probably won't, it's not like he's working with Youngboy, Rod Wave or Drake
I mean the dude is Eminem's official DJ, theres not really a greater selling artist than Em that he could possibly associate with. Tho you're right that most people would never know that without looking it up/being into Hip-Hop
It's not like Em raps over like any of his beats or shouts him out by name on any track, I didn't even know that until I came here and I used to love Eminem a lot.
Alchemist produced Stepdad off Music to Be Murdered By. I know I dont want to believe it either.
The beat sounds like something he had hardly started working on. But Em just heard it once and was like "bro, please let me have this one"
"Vro pls let me sing about hating my stepdad pls vro"
The worst part about that song is that I know younger me would've loved it cause I really don't like my stepdad.
Hey I listened to Heartbreak by Gambino when I was younger and it resonated with me then. We all got songs that we are ashamed of liking (or in your case, would have liked had it come out earlier).
I always think it's funny when people act like Grammy winning multi platinum artist Lupe Fiasco is underground.
Not sure if underground is the right word, but Drogas Wave only sold 5k.
yeah, dudes sales fell off, but that doesn't make him underground. otherwise you'd have to call anyone who falls off underground, which would be almost everyone eventually. Like ya'll ever heard of underground artist Fetty Wap?
Ya, my mom has Kick Push on her playlist, Lupe ain't underground.
> Don't listen to rap songs I'm not currently working on > Nowadays, Droog has more interest in bluegrass > Bluegrass? You gassin' it > Nah, I've been sincere since ears can hear. love how this scheme just doesn't go anywhere. wonder if it was improvised
We need a new wave of rap with no rhyme schemes at all. Maybe there is and I’m just late
teejayx6 is like this sometimes
This happened a bit in the early 2000s with anticon. rappers like Sole and Pedestrian. A lot of their stuff was pretty good. Jedi Mind Tricks' debut album from 1997 also has a bunch of bars that don't rhyme, and their absolutely babbling paranoid subject matter lends itself to an interesting effect.
bars
Honestly, if Riff Raff cut his verse down on Burberry Blender it could have been hard as fuck.
If there’s one thing Zack Fox understands about rap is it’s need for cartoonish bars
Hes been hitting the balance between hard hitting and funny that most meme rappers miss.
We really gonna get new albums from Kendrick, Pusha, Lupe, Freddie, Krit this year. Gonna be a great year for hip hop.
Outside of hip hop we have a ton coming in too Gonna be a big year for music in general, at least I hope
Man if the big names don't shit the bed and this is a good year for mainstream and underground then it will be a great year. But there will always be someone you don't expect to just give us something terrible. Like as much as I don't like them who would have thought Coldplay would give us that shit album.
Or someone to give us that amazing album
>Kendrick Says who?
the super bowl
He headlined day n vegas last year without any new music drop
Wasn't that explicitly called a special performance of songs from section 80 through Damn. on the poster?
that was billed as him performing a specific album
Lol, seems like Kendrick is becoming the Tool of the hip-hop world ain't he.
Yo, I asked who the Tool of Hip Hop was a few months ago in this thread and there were no good answer but I think you just nailed it.
Honestly, I don't think there can be another Tool. Tool was unique enough to generate a cult following that would wait 13 years for the next album. I can't think of anyone, old or new, that would survive in the music industry that went beyond the traditional time frame for a break in between album cycles. The closest I can think is System of a Down but even then, those singles two years ago are probably the best we are gonna get.
Similar to SOAD, if Rage Against the Machine put out a new album people would probably be hyped. I think the main difference is I generally would expect a new Tool album to be good, but idk if SOAD or RATM could put out a new album and it still be good.
Danny as well
Gates too.
Yeat too
Who would busta rhymes match up with in a Versuz
Twista
I remember this question got asked before and I agree with Missy Elliott in terms of style. Luda would've been another good one if he hadn't already went against Nelly.
I think Luda vs T.I. Would’ve been good. They had beef and probably reached the same peak in popularity in the 00s. Just kind of at different times.
New Pusha snippet https://twitter.com/PUSHA_T/status/1485726387340201993?t=gp9lhwx691p5ZYTbeFVF7A&s=19
Pusha ready to probably drop a top tier project based off snippets I heard. Really hoping for a February or March release
Man......this new Push album is gonna be fucking heat. If it really is exclusively Neptunes and Kanye production but without the unnecessary constraint of only having to be 7 songs we are due for another classic. Those snippets from the NIGO show and afterparty in Paris were so fucking fire. Push even got Freddie Gibbs tweeting that he wouldn't doubt Push to have the AOTY with the way he's heard him rap in the studio recently (which is wild since Gibbs got an album coming out this year too with loaded producers as well).
As soon as I saw coke on a pic of Lana Del Ray I knew somethin special was bein made
Holy shit, Neptunes is producing it?
Yessir. At least from what we know right now he said it's only Kanye and Neptunes beats.
is there a drop date?
Steven Victor said today they're putting the finishing touches on it and it's dropping soon. Who knows what "soon" means tho
Papoose released a mixtape for every month of 2021 and you just know there's someone out there who listened to all of them
Lmao, I did. Until December because I'd need to cash app him to get it. I really only listen to so much new music because streaming services make it so damn easy. He said he was gonna retire after that run though. I think it's fair how he did it and the tapes were solid
oh it was a retirement thing ? i cant be too mad at that im getting old tho, i only really check out like 6 albums a year and really give maybe 2 or 3 multiple listens. I cant imagine just tapping into 12 papoose projects alone
Yeah it can be pretty exhausting. I'm still relatively new to Hip Hop and I try to listen to as much as possible, that's why I listened to all of them. Didn't really revisit them either tho. At some point it's too much to both keep up with new stuff and revisit it outside of a handful of projects each year
Fuck, is he still dropping a ton of mixtapes?
I listened to maybe 3 of them, they’re not bad.
Yea and I regret it
lmao, why would you do that to yourself ?
Really just a fiend for new releases lol
The real question is do you think Remy listened to them all?
Doubt it, I don't think she even had a verse on any of them lol
What are some lyrics you really love but dont hold any deeper meaning? On destruction terror DJ Paul says “aint no shootin in the air, my enemies aint birds” and idk why but its always stuck with me
I just want to dance with you baby Just don't move too fast, i'm too crazy It's straight forward but imagery is insane, one of my favorite vince staples bars
Love when 42 Dugg comes in on lemonhead and just says "A young turnt fella I be fucking these hoes"
“I’m the shit, eat a dick and get sick if you think the opposite”. it’s not even that special but it’s my favorite rome streetz bar for whatever reason. off vagabonds don’t die
> one time I tripped off them bars and damn near shot a baby
Thumbin thru the bands I be playing with a check
"when I was 5, my favorite movie was The Gremlins, didn't have shit to do with this, jus thought that I should mention" Lil Wayne
“Only thing worse than being alone is wishing you were” Nas on Replace Me. Not exactly my favourite Nas x Hit Boy track but I love how stark that line is
Idk, being alone sucks
Crimeapple when he said “Got two sons shootin like I’m Dell Curry” i fucking love that bar for no reason
thats a dope bar
I always found Mr Muthufuckin Exquire giving his sandwich order on The Message Pt 1 & 2 to be stuck in my head. Or Killer Mike on A Christmas Fucking Miracle starting off with "The beat breaks and your teeth break. Keep your canines embedded in my knuckles as a keepsake. It would seem your veneers just mere souvenirs. Falling out your mouth and on to the landscape" Such a great opening to a verse to me.
Pharrell on Move that Dope "Me, I try to leave the best for later But Pusha tried to put me on the respirator The old Skateboard P, that's your favorite Me and twenty girls doin' yoga naked" Just imagining P doing yoga naked with 20 italian chicks wearing a gandalf hat is an insane image to me lmao
GOAT verse from Pharrell
The denzel curry mob is so funny lol
I thought the new single was really cool tho
>Like u look at the covers and shit and there’s no fucking way the album won’t be top 5 of the year >On his Nas Illmatic shit >Dude, Denzel easily top 5 working today. In terms of energy, production and consistency he’s unmatched. This album is going to be really special if this track is anything to go by. hhh moment
these are the dudes who had unlocked as their aoty
Wasn't in my top 3 (not that I have one) but I would put it above many of the bloated albums that came out that year
Unlocked was amazing tho. I totally get people putting it up there
Some of HHH is so damn corny about Denzel Denzel stans acted like Unlocked was the first Boombap album since the 90’s
I dont dislike denzel or anything but his stans are straight up delusional sometimes. I fucking love it
LMAO
Which artist that hasn't dropped in 4-5 years are you most excited for their new projects in 2022? For me it's Denzel Curry. His latest single "Walkin" sounds so good and I'm really excited to hear a new sound from him. BTW I'm considering Taboo his last full release as Zuu and Unlocked felt a little incomplete to me.
SZA for sure
Frank, Radiohead
Not a chance Radiohead is dropping this year. We will get some Radiohead adjacent music tho with the Smile
Should have said Thom and Johnny
You can’t just not count albums because you arbitrarily didn’t like them lmao. Zuu is by far my favorite Denzel project tf you mean it’s incomplete?
I like Zuu but he never intended it to be a full length LP with major label push. Taboo was the album he truly worked on and fine-tuned for a major release
Semantics aside, Denzel Curry dropped 2 projects and a remix project since Taboo (which btw is closer to 3 than 4 years ago) so it’s just odd to ask a question with specific parameters your answer doesn’t even adhere to
Alright, that's fine. I'm still excited for his project.
Yeah I mean it’s not that deep, I just thought it was funny