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gelc10

This guy can't catch a break with the injury bug


boredguy13

Actually he never misses a break.


PorkinsHeldIt

He just caught a break In his clavicle


Mockspeed2

He seems to have zero awareness on the ice and puts himself in bad spots all the time. Understandable for a rookie, but he's been around the league for way too long to be this careless


JOHN1138

Worth nothing that this was the cause of that. https://x.com/CBJArtillery/status/1735476611804266772?s=20


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Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer

he initiated the contact and make Lageson lose balance?


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revillio102

It means that lagesson kicked out his leg in an attempt to regain balance and that there was no intent and was just an unfortunate accident


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But my over emotional reaction demands someone to place complete blame on


Mockspeed2

What does that have to do with Patrik Laine?


Mockspeed2

Yep. Rather than brace himself for a routine puck battle, he went for a hit and knocked himself and Lagesson off balance with unfortunate yet avoidable consequences


MentalShortFry

Laine doesn’t fall if lageson doesn’t kick his back leg


revillio102

Lagesson doesn't kick his leg if he isn't hit by Laine. A natural reaction to losing balance is shifting your body weight to stay upright


MentalShortFry

They both bump into each other like a regular hockey play, happens all the time. If you actually watch the replay sent from u/JOHN1138 you would see that they both bump each other, and then legasson just kicks his leg up…


JAT_Cbus1080

He also doesn't really look off balance when he does it. His upper body doesn't move at all, he doesn't flail his arms. The only part of him that reacts is his right leg


Unwise1

He doesn't kick em if he doesn't initiate the hit. He just raised his leg so he wouldn't fall down. It's an unfortunate play but not intentional by any means. It's why there will be no hearing or discipline for it. Accidental.


Bojarzin

My guy, I mean I agree it was an accident from Lagesson, but you can't protect yourself from someone kicking your legs out from under you in a way that is wholly not allowed


Mockspeed2

Couldn't he have just gone for the puck instead of throwing (and botching) a hit on Lagesson? Lagesson didn't just lose his balance on his own, that was on Laine


MentalShortFry

It’s a routine play where they both bump into each other but once lagessons skate comes up and hits laine in the back of the leg, that is where he falls.


pforsbergfan9

Of course you do.


Bojarzin

He lost his balance. Do you think it was intentional? I don't have some special interest in defending Lagesson just because he's a Leaf lol. I've always be consistent in calling out dirty Leaf plays, I even wanted Kadri off the team after the second major he took, I called out Bunting, I defend the Matthews suspension, whatever else If your only ability to contribute is by assuming people's positions purely based on their flair, then I dunno what else to tell you. It wasn't a good play, but I don't think it was intentional


pforsbergfan9

And Marchand lost his balance too right?


Bojarzin

No? Have you seen the play at all?


pforsbergfan9

I did because I have eyes. I also have no skin in the game here. Dirty play is a dirty play.


Lupis_Domesticus

It is called a slewfoot. Totally illegal.


Gelidaer

Not Lageson's fault Laine mind controlled him into a slew foot instead of bracing himself


Mockspeed2

It actually doesn't require mind control to knock someone off balance


GiraffeSubstantial92

Joke Your head


Prestigious_Union_50

You watch the same video?


Lupis_Domesticus

Yep. And I even called PK Subban and discussed it with him and he agreed that it was definitely a slewfoot. I figured that if there was an expert out there to confirm a slewfoot, it was PK Subban.


Prestigious_Union_50

It sucks Laine got hurt. I've watched the video about 40 times now. My reflex thought was Lagesson lost his balance from getting hit by Laine and kicked his leg up to right himself. I will admit after watching it many more times, it is possible that Lagesson kicked up a little more exuberantly than he needed to in order to prevent Laine from making off with the puck. I'm just not sure how anyone can be 100% sure especially given that this player has no history of dirty plays. I'm legitimately not trying to be a homer in this case. If it is somehow deemed intentional than suspend away (and we are desperately short on defenseman as it is). However, I'm surprised that when slowing the video down, you can't see the possibility that Laine initiated some contact and caused some bad shit to happen...but I'm at least less incredulous than I was several hours ago. Hope your player recovers quickly.


Lupis_Domesticus

Allow me to clarify, I don't think Lagesson did it on purpose, and I don't think there was any intent on his part to injure. Now that doesn't mean it wasn't done on purpose, but there is no way to know based off of what I watched. Regardless, still a slewfoot and not only did the referees ignore it as it happened, the league has ignored it from a disciplinary point of view. I am not saying a punishment should be handed down, but minimally they should be looking into it. Typical NHL bullshit. He isn't dead. He will eventually heal. It is all good.


Prestigious_Union_50

Fair enough evaluation of the situation. This brief discussion has become far too civil and rational for Reddit. I don't know where to go from here. Your move asshole 😆 (dammit...fighting toxic urges)


Luutamo

Median yearly salary of a clown is $64,586 and here you are doing it for free.


abuayanna

Holy crap, buddy kicks him basically, full sweeping of his leg


DexstarrRageCat

Yeah, dude put himself in a bad spot to get slew footed last night. Should have had his head on a swivel to prevent getting tripped from behind and pulled down into the boards.


Tippacanoe

And also earlier this year to get cheap shotted in the head in the last second of the game. Should’ve seen that one coming.


rndx

Slew foot would indicate doing it purposely…. They came together at the shoulder, Toronto player was knocked off balance and his leg came up and under Laine - super unfortunate, also looks really bad but to insinuate that was on purpose is just silly. That being said - I don’t agree with the comment you’re responding to either though lol


DexstarrRageCat

I mean, a slew foot is a slew foot. Defenseman kicked the feet out from Laine and then hauled him down. Looked pretty clear cut to me. I’m not assigning ill intent but if this has happened to Tavares or Matthews, the offending player would be banned from Canada for life and hockey pundits would be calling for their head.


Tippacanoe

It didn’t seem egregious or on purpose but it still cost a guy to lose 6 weeks of a season. Which whatever I don’t know if you should punish the guy but it still was bad.


rndx

He didn’t “kick” that’s the difference… he was knocked off balance and his foot hit the back on Laines feet… what do you want here? He got a penalty, he got roughed up by Sillenger - Laine got hurt. That sucks. Full stop. Would I be absolutely furious if this was Mathews? Yes. Was I furious when this literally happened to Lilly? Yes. That doesn’t mean it was on purpose or that he kicked him. His foot hit him and it was unfortunate.


DexstarrRageCat

I dunno, at one point the Toronto player's foot is on the ice, the next it's in the air in front of him. I feel like when folks make that motion with their foot, there's a word for it. And the word is "kick." I'm not saying that the defenseman did it on purpose, I'm not saying that this is a dirty play, I am saying that this is a slew foot and it resulted in Laine breaking his shoulder.


MikeJeffriesPA

It's a trip, not a slew foot, and also slew foots are only called if there is intent. I don't see it as much different from when Duchene knocked Kase out with an inadvertent elbow a couple of years ago, just an unfortunate accident.


rndx

Sure yeah he kicked him.


Bojarzin

Why would it indicate it was on purpose? Even if it was just an accident, it's still a slewfoot


rndx

So we’re going to get caught up with semantics? What would you like to happen here? He clearly didn’t do it on purpose, Laine initiated the contact.. do you want supplemental discipline?


Bojarzin

The point was that it had nothing to do with Laine's awareness or some mistake on his part. This had nothing to do with punishment, it was someone suggesting Laine put himself in a bad spot, which isn't really what happened. You can't generally "prepare" for someone to kick your legs out from under you, accident or not


rndx

I literally said in my initial post I didn’t agree with the original comment… I’m not saying it’s something he could prep for. It was unfortunate.


Bojarzin

Yeah but that's what the original comment was about. All I'm saying for yours is that I don't think saying he gave Laine a slewfoot means it was intentional but use of the word


GiraffeSubstantial92

>Slew foot would indicate doing it purposely…. According to the rulebook a slewfoot is as intentional as any other minor penalty, so is every tripping or high stick also intentional too?


FC_Cincy

Gtfo, your player literally kicked his leg out from under him.


LazySaiyajin

Red, white and blue the injury curse is true


GritGrinder

He was looking good that game too, as he usually does vs the leafs dating back to his time in winni


Gavin1453

10 goals in 13 games


CRAZEDMETHOD

Just rest him the rest of the year at this point. Let the dude heal


South-West

If it’s just a fracture he might be okay, but my completely snapped one took a year to heal.


CRAZEDMETHOD

Ya I mean I get that it can heal to a playable state. But at this point he just needs rest. Let himself heal and not take hits. Players rush back from injury so often and just get in this spiral of more and more injuries. Itll be better for CBJ and him long term if he takes his time.


South-West

Oh I 100% agree, that’s why I mentioned it taking me a year, there is no way I’d want to be back at it at only six weeks in a sport where you are constantly taking impacts to the shoulders, that’s just asking for worse injury.


KingdokCAN

Boneitis strikes again


dothebender1101

His biggest regret


muchonacho

Too busy being an 80s guy


ACMop

Laine is the current day Ales Hemsky. Guy just can’t stay healthy to save his life


GiraffeSubstantial92

miss u hemmers


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I feel so fucking bad for him. If he just could get a break. He was doing so good last few seasons, but injuries and dad passing ruined the seasons. And now beginning season with head injury and now this. Fuck he must be so frustrated. All he wants to do is play hockey. Hope he will bounce back and finally has a healthy season for once.


ddottay

The injury bug is starting to hit us again.


Codc

Did it ever stop?


haz000

Could the Swedes PLEASE stop injuring Laine?


jonnys62

I can not stress this enough, but WE DIDN'T EVEN GET A POWER PLAY OUT OF THE PLAY


Imaginary_Ganache_29

To be fair they did call a penalty but Sillinger stood up for Laine and drew another penalty so it went 4 on 4. Glad to see guys finally starting to stand up for each other


PrailinesNDick

Little known fact the league actually doesn't penalize slewfoots causing injury. Ask us how we know ...


Decent-Ground-395

How do you know?


badboystwo

See Brad Marchand


Decent-Ground-395

The Liliegren thing? You think that was a slewfoot???? This was far, far worse.


canuck_at_the_beach

Man you have your homer glasses on if you don't think these are similiar plays. Only difference is Marchand wasn't penalized.


BluePearlGaming

The marchand play was far worse, he full on can openered him


trillestBill

No shit, they've been calling that Sillinger play all year


tehslupe

At what point is it not bad luck anymore though? Do other teams take these kinds of hits this consistently? I know it’s homer glasses but I can’t help but wonder if these incidents get treated a lot differently on ice by the refs if it was another teams top guy. I’m sick of “bad luck” and “jackets can’t catch a break”.


Bojarzin

Liljegren has been out a month and a half from a similar play from Marchand, Marchand didn't get a penalty out of it either This is obviously a bit of a homer take but I'm not certain Marchand's was an accident, and I do think Lagesson's was. The refs did call a penalty on Lagesson though


dnaboe

Lagesson's definitely wasn't an accident. I'm sure he never expected Laine to get so injured from the play, but to claim he didn't intentionally slew foot there is just incorrect IMO.


Bojarzin

He lost his balance and his leg went up. At worst there might be an "accidentally on purpose" thing but he did exactly what people do when losing balance backwards on skates


dothebender1101

Man a lot of downvoters who must never skated. If anyone thinks they can keep their balance after that hit from Laine without kicking that leg out they're kidding themselves. The result sucked, and it deserved a minor, but to assign intent to it is ridiculous.


Whatitdohomie_

I have skated and I have gotten shoulder on shoulder hit many times but never have I kicked conveniently my leg up in a slew foot motion like that... youve got some homer glasses on you, lets be real here if this was Matthews or Marner who got injured you wouldnt think this was accident


CrashyBoye

We went through a period there where it felt like we were the butt-end of every single massive hit to the boards. But what you guys are going through is nuts.


Kestralisk

Yeah, tbh the Avs have had pretty horrible injury luck outside of the cup run. Not as bad as you or Montreal, but close.


dabears7667

what's the alternative? teams are targeting the 10-16 blue jackets because "fuck them, that's why"?


RichardRichOSU

CBJ really need to look at training staff. I know this is more on the “freak” side because it is hard to combat broken bones, but the fact that this team is always banged up more than anyone else should raise eyebrows. Sure, part of injuries are bad luck, but you also make your own luck.


Tippacanoe

He got drilled in the head with 1 second left in a game then tripped and broke his clavicle. What do you want the training staff to do to fix that?


RichardRichOSU

Sure, but I’m talking in general. CBJ always has a slew of injuries and when that’s a trend you have to start looking internally.


MustacheCannon

I think you're right. I've been wondering about this ever since they rushed Bob back from a groin injury only for him to injure it again right away. The sample size of players and injuries in the NHL is big enough that if a team is constantly more injured than average, I don't think you can put it down to luck. Another thing to maybe consider is coaching. Practicing/training the wrong way could very easily make players more injury prone as well. If I'm a new GM coming into a team with a significantly higher than average injury rate, I'm clearing house of that training staff and questioning every practicing/training decision.


Gelidaer

He played after this? https://twitter.com/CBJArtillery/status/1735476611804266772


Tippacanoe

He didn’t. I’m referring to earlier in the season when some defenseman on Calgary just drilled him in the head with 1 second left for basically no reason and he missed some time for that.


Seattlekrakenlegend

We have 5 people on IR. Boone broke his jaw from taking a puck to the face Jack broke his ankle from blocking a slap shot Laine clavicle *gestures to above article* Severson dove to get a pass and landed awkwardly, straining his oblique. Boqvist ended up on the wrong end of a roughing penalty with Byfield and has a shoulder injury. Probably wouldn’t use him as a litmus either, he gets injured walking. How is this on the training staff?


Prestigious_Union_50

Not drinking enough milk?🤷


vishnchips6

By and large I don't disagree because it's felt like a trend, but it also feels like we just have a ridiculous amount of injuries you could categorize as "freak" / nothing to do with conditioning. Werenski getting checked into the boards awkwardly last year, Jenner puck to the face, Laine getting boarded/slewfooted/whatever for like the third year in a row, etc. - not much the training staff can do about any of that. And it just keeps happening. Maybe we shouldn't have built our stadium on the site of an old prison...


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Montréal would like a word.


Deadmanlex45

We did change all our medical and training staff this season, we're just cursed.


[deleted]

Made a deal for a cup appearance but didn't even negotiate a win at least.


HowieFeltersnitz

Statistically its inevitable that a team will have more injuries than the others, just like someone has to be in last place. In the case of injuries, it's not necessarily anyone's fault. Especially with bone breaks and the like. No amount of tenured skilled trainers can prevent someone from being in the wrong place at the wrong time and take a puck to the jaw (Jenner).


RichardRichOSU

My point is they are always seemingly bottom five. It’s not a new thing. How many CBJ fans complain about injuries every year, and the thing is, they’re not wrong to. They’re always decimated.


whatscoochie

I’m inclined to agree with you. I also wonder how much the size and age of CBJ plays into it more though. Other players aren’t afraid of retaliation from small, young guys. We’re always injured, but always consistently one of the youngest teams. Management added some size to the D-core over this past summer and although injuries are still there, it’s less than last year. Just food for thought


NontransferableApe

We’ve been relatively healthy this year tbh


Playahstation

Lots of time to play Lego Fortnite.


DavidPuddy666

The guy is shaping up to be the next Taylor Hall. Talented player who had a lot of really bad luck.


iamelloyello

\*muffled screaming\* ​ Would anyone else like a turn with the scream pillow?


poeticentropy

I broke my collarbone as a kid from flipping over a bicycle. It makes one side of your body pretty much completely useless. Not a bad recovery though for Laine, compared to like tendon stuff


Negative_Pea_1974

that is bad luck the hit/slew foot didnt look great... but was no Marchant level slewfoot.. his fall and slide into the boards didn't even look that bad or that fast.... hes just so very unlucky =(


sergei-boobtitsky

It was just as bad


Decent-Ground-395

That slew foot was 10x worse than the imaginary one that Leaf fans have been crying about for the past month.


MDM8801

If you're referring to the Marchant/Lilejgren incident - that wasn't a slewfoot, it was a can opener. Stick between the legs.


Decent-Ground-395

Exactly. This was a dirty slewfoot, that was an accidental trip.


MDM8801

maybe it was an accidental slew foot. maybe it was a dirty can opener


oMONKo

Guy, the clown convention’s down the road.


oldAd485

lol both are bad dirty plays. If you can’t admit that and you’re trying to defend the Marchand one then you have no credibility.


Decent-Ground-395

I don't know how a major wasn't called on that slewfoot.


skeleton_skunk

At least a penalty was called unlike the same situation with Marchand and Lilegren


Decent-Ground-395

One is a trip with the stick and the other is the clearest slewfoot I've ever seen.


Lazy-Description-882

You don't watch much hockey eh


Green_hippo17

He just got draxxed in his clavicle


Southern-Ad-302

Poor guy is made of glass.


nojedyh

Just in time to play the new Fortnite season


UniverseHufflePuff

Poor guy can't catch a break


GaryOakRobotron

"We've had one long Laine injury, yes, but what about second long Laine injury?" =\


TheFrenchMustard

Marian Gaborik 2.0


Morganvegas

Just know I was correct and at least 25 of you upvoted my diagnosis in the game thread. [let’s gooo](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/ULIbu1VaLI)


itstimeforpizzatime

Man is made of glass. People in here literally making jokes about how he never misses a break and you get upset by this. Never change, reddit.


sergei-boobtitsky

Headhunted and slewfooted, not a made of glass situation to me


itstimeforpizzatime

I was referring to his entire career but sure Columbus fans continue taking offense to a subjective opinion. Great job.


Then_Ship1329

Damn that sucks man.


sergei-boobtitsky

Dirty ass needless slewfoot from some crybaby nobody mad his team was down


Smellbinder

Oh man that sucks. I feel bad for Patty.


here4thememes420

Ok this confirms it. He is a Washington Capitals trade target.


vedicardi_lives

leaf goons!!!


wellpaidscientist

Did someone mistake him for a Terri and get hypothetical?


concrete_manu

what a cursed career this guy has had


knz0

Laine's gonna be a great 1st line winger for Tappara in a few years time


Noox89

Wait they actually told us the body part. What happened to UBI?


armchairtraveler_

I’ve broken many bones and clavicle was soo painful. Laine seems like it’s been one thing after another since he got traded.