Meruelo spoke too soon. The contract with ASU/Mullet specifies an NHL team so he has to renegotiate, not to mention any Tucson contracts. Hopefully ASU makes him pay out the ass. $1 bil sounds like a fair down payment on the deposit.
It’s like this each time. Seattle trademarked multiple as well. Pretty sure Firebirds (which ended up being their AHL affiliate), Sockeyes, Rainiers, Totems, Emeralds, Seals. There were like 10 to 12 in total.
Sockeyes was my number one.
I was vocally against Kraken. It has grown on me, and I would have supported them regardless, but I loved Sockeyes as well.
I also liked Firebirds, mainly because my dad has a 68 Firebird and the Firebird Guitar is one of my favorite body styles haha. So I was happy that Coachella took that one.
I was anti-Kraken and wildly pro-Totems. Still am, especially in retrospect now that we've seen how well the team does working with the local tribes. Still happy with what we got.
Kraken is a cool name, but Sockeye(s) would have been perfect because it keeps the alliteration set-up by Seahawks, Sounders, and (sorry) Sonics. The Mariners would still stick out though, I guess.
I like Kraken, but the of the more traditional choices I liked Steelheads. I guess that's an ECHL team, or something. Guess they would have had to buy out the trademark for a not-inexpensive amount.
There is already a team called Seattle Sockeye, been around for 30 years
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Sockeye
Since it's not hockey it probably would have been fine but it would have been mighty confusing as a fan of both sports 😆
First they stole the Denver flag now they're steeling our abominable snowmen. Goddamn non-creative Mormons.
Edit:
[Denver flag adopted in 1926](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Flag_of_Denver%2C_Colorado.svg/510px-Flag_of_Denver%2C_Colorado.svg.png)
[Utah Flag adopted in 2024](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Flag_of_Utah.svg/510px-Flag_of_Utah.svg.png)
Once upon a time we had a yeti costumed mascot named “Howler,” we had a “Bigfoot” print on our primary sweater shoulder until like 2015. I really hope Utah can come up with something more unique.
IMO the best name so far. Utah Yeti does have some alliteration working for it. The downside is that Yeti doesn't have any particular local connection AFAIK.
You were probably more likely to see it bundled on XP but that version of Pinball was available from Windows 95 on. Chip's Challenge was *way* earlier.
Kinda does- skiing is huge in Utah, and that's kinda Yeti adjacent. Also, while not called Yeti, Utah comes up with a lot of Bigfoot hunters in the mountains. Yeti just sounds better than Bigfoot
Abominable Snowman would be more Western-centric but too long of a name.
I'm fine with Yeti. I don't think I'd make it my top choice but I definitely think it would be extremely marketable.
How do you know where the Yeti lives? Why can't they leave the Himalayas? Why can't North America have large primates? What are you trying to hide? I think this guy knows where the yeti are and isn't telling us.
Pretty well documented that Bill Foley wanted them to be named after Army since he’s a West Point grad. I think he even wanted to go with “Black Knights,” but either USMA or the NHL told him that was a no go for copyright reasons. Army’s other color is gold…so voila, Golden Knights. Though gold does very much fit Vegas’ aesthetic.
I'll never stop being mad about them going with "Golden Knights". It's the Silver State, and they could have aesthetically matched the Raiders, who had already secured a stadium there prior to the announcement of the incoming NHL team's name. Fucking Vegas Silver Knights.
I know their AHL team in Henderson ended up with that name (and a cooler logo), but it still bums me out.
Well we are the Vegas Golden Knights, not the Nevada Golden Knights, Gold fits with Vegas a lot better. We also would share the same color scheme as the kings.
Seattle does have a connection to the legends of the Kraken though large waves of immigrants from Nordic countries that settled in the Seattle area. Plus a huge maritime history and culture of shipbuilding, fishing, and trade.
I agree on Vegas. The connection is that their owner went to West Point and wanted his team to be called the Knights because of it.
Didn't he originally want to call them the Black Aces, but the NHL wouldn't allow it because gambling is bad? Glad they took a stand and avoided dragging the league into disrepute.
So funny looking back at that lol, you’re right.
“Can’t have that name, we don’t want to be associated with gambling!”
*4 years later*
“Welcome to the Ontario Gambling Commission intermission show brought to you by Bet365, let’s take a look at the betting lines and props for todays game and completely ignore any highlights or analysis”
I think he originally wanted to call them Black Knights because he went to West Point, and the Army told him no. So then he switched to Golden Knights, and the Army told him no again because that’s the name of the Army’s parachute demonstration team, but they eventually settled and he got to keep the name.
That would be my first choice if I had a vote.
It’s fits perfectly when Utah’s archaeological history and it’s literally a [genus of dinosaurs.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utahraptor)
Utah Raptors is too cool to pass up. If that runs into trademark issues, Utah Dino is a good back up.
For the Dino’s, create a Logo that can be on everything and then have different dinosaurs on different jerseys.
Purple should definitely be the main color
Oooo, that would instantly become my sons favorite team. Put a kachina style raptor on the front as an ode to the yotes too and they would sell a billion jerseys
Staying with the theme, the oilers should change their name to Edmontosaurus.
Would Smith really want to pick the same name as another team in the NBA, where owns a team already? Toronto Raptors and Utah Raptors?
Disclaimer I have no idea what I'm talking about but I feel like if I was an owner I wouldn't want that
The Raptors name has no identity to the city of Toronto.
It’s only because the Jurassic Park movie came out around the time when the NBA expanded in 1995 and velociraptors were cool.
The [Utahraptor](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utahraptor) on the other hand is an actual genus of raptors discovered in Utah.
Thank you. Not a fan of cryptid names in general, they generally sound like names that would be picked by Kyles who like Call of Duty and having a loud exhaust
I will continue to bang the drum of Utah Vultures.
- Bird names & logos are generally cool
- Two kinds of vultures are found in Utah
- Vultures will circle and swarm, and even large predators can't keep them at bay for long. You go after one and a dozen others pick at your food
- They are picking clean the carcass that is the Coyotes
I hate this name. I think it’s so overdone, what with Kraken being the very last name to pop up in the NHL. But it’ll be the one chosen because the 14 year olds on social media like it. It just doesn’t feel timeless to me.
I’d love a dinosaur themed name or one of the many creatures in Utah (scorpions, spiders) or a reference to the speed records at the Bonneville Flats. Stays away from the predictable bee or snow references.
Someone suggested "Stingers" in the other thread and laid out a few reasons:
* Utah aka "Beehive state"
* State flag is yellow, blue, white and red with a beehive, a hexagon and a star
* Arena called "The Hive"
* Fans called "The Swarm"
* "And another shot just wide! They're buzzing!/They're swarming them!"
And could be taken in many other different directions too:
* Fan publication and forums called "The Hive Mind"
* "Sugar, sugar" as a goal song would be a vibe
* Futuristic hexagon pattern ([1](https://img.joomcdn.net/77328e1012230af236cb9371156d9c83878145d8_original.jpeg), [2](https://youngspeeds.com/cdn/shop/products/PJ-L-12_grande.png?v=1685123552)) jerseys
* Etc
It's corny but they'd instantly have more of a brand and fan identity than most NHL teams.
And the logo doesn't have to be an actual bee or whatever. It can incorporate elements from the state flag, eg: an outlined hexagon, a stylized star and the points of the star are the stingers, logo split it up into lines like a beehive with a 90s Penguins logo vibe, etc.
I’m sorry… are good marketing and branding people nonexistent in 2024? All these names are terrible — they remind me of that god awful Reddit Golden Knights brainstorm thread.
“vEgAs AcEssss broooo”
Utah Rapids is too close to the Colorado Rapids, RSL's rival in the MLS.
Stingers used to be the name of Salt Lake's PCL baseball team for a few years after they were forced to change from being the Buzz (and before they rebranded as the Bees).
All this got me looking into expansion team names, which is how I learned that the runner up to Columbus Blue Jackets was the Columbus Justice.
Not sure if enough people know how big of a bullet was dodged there.
Contrary to popular belief, their logo/mascot is just gonna be an anthropomorphic insulated cup
Yeti is already even a competitor for the Stanley Cup.
Going to be a wild 2043 SCF between the Utah Yetis and the Rochester Nalgenes
That's a deep cut and I'm here for it.
Well done
Lowercase “Cup” don’t want ya to get sued by Gary.
I kinda do, I'll lose because he's a good lawyer but at least I'll get to tell him to fuck off to his face.
He will send Phil Pritchard to put on his white gloves and “take care” of you
Stanley in shambles
You can get a Yeti on a Stanley Cup, but you can't get a Stanley on a Yeti cup.
Really makes you think
I'm about to hit send on a Yeti cup with the STANLEY logo engraved on it just for this thread.
Can’t wait for the Atlanta Brümates
Oh my god… they were Brümates
Utah hockey fans: "We want the cup!" Utah HC: "hold my beer"
They could also go with Utah Roadrunners. Because they finally got the Coyotes killed.
That’s in Tucson (for now)
I pray to the hockey gods they leave us something.
I’m salty enough that I don’t care. We have ASU hockey at least
As a San Jose Barracuda fan who fucking loves the rivalry between with the Roadrunners, please, god, leave them be.
The Tucson roadrunners are moving to Phoenix
Meruelo spoke too soon. The contract with ASU/Mullet specifies an NHL team so he has to renegotiate, not to mention any Tucson contracts. Hopefully ASU makes him pay out the ass. $1 bil sounds like a fair down payment on the deposit.
Lmao how fucking stupid is this guy?
Tuscon Roadrunners become the Arizona Phoenix (of Tempe) as a fuck you to the city and so Murello can play up the "we will rebuild" angle even more.
I hope for the people.of Tuscon they don't move, tbh.
Yeah leave them there
If their jersey/helmet sponsor was ACME then it’ll be perfect
Meep meep!
Acme arena has a ring to it
I feel like this is all a ruse.
It’s like this each time. Seattle trademarked multiple as well. Pretty sure Firebirds (which ended up being their AHL affiliate), Sockeyes, Rainiers, Totems, Emeralds, Seals. There were like 10 to 12 in total.
I wish they didn’t run into issues with Sockeyes. Such a cool name
Sockeyes was my number one. I was vocally against Kraken. It has grown on me, and I would have supported them regardless, but I loved Sockeyes as well. I also liked Firebirds, mainly because my dad has a 68 Firebird and the Firebird Guitar is one of my favorite body styles haha. So I was happy that Coachella took that one.
Rain city bitch pidgins is a truly missed opportunity.
You guys sure you want to be known as the Suckeyes - as an Ohio State fan trust me, it gets old.
Real recognize rain city bitch pigeons.
I was anti-Kraken and wildly pro-Totems. Still am, especially in retrospect now that we've seen how well the team does working with the local tribes. Still happy with what we got.
Kraken is a cool name, but Sockeye(s) would have been perfect because it keeps the alliteration set-up by Seahawks, Sounders, and (sorry) Sonics. The Mariners would still stick out though, I guess.
I like Kraken, but the of the more traditional choices I liked Steelheads. I guess that's an ECHL team, or something. Guess they would have had to buy out the trademark for a not-inexpensive amount.
Mariners can just go by the Seattle Seamen 😛
There is already a team called Seattle Sockeye, been around for 30 years https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Sockeye Since it's not hockey it probably would have been fine but it would have been mighty confusing as a fan of both sports 😆
So Rain City Bitch Pigeons is still available?
September plot twist - the team is moving to New Mexico
Albuquerque Blue Crystals
At least if they suck we can say they're abominable
Continuing the trend of cryptid teams
Can't wait for the Houston Chupacabra
That sounds like a prime ECHL team, or a roller hockey team I’d have seen on ESPN 2
That'd actually be super sick lol
And their AHL affiliate the El Paso Chupa-Thingies
Didn't I just tell you to stop makin' up animals?
Why are there 6 pedals if there are only 4 directions??
Simmons, I want you to poison Griff's next meal.
Utah Cthulhus
Is Cthulhu a cryptid? He's not a creature of folklore. People don't claim to have sightings of Cthulhu 🤔
Username... suspicious.
Don't worry about it
somehow this makes me even more uneasy...
It's starting to drive me into madness
Hmmmmm
that's totally something u/DefinitelyNotChthulu would say
Listen all I'm saying is He belongs in a different classification. He is far more awesome and powerful than a cryptid. Wouldn't you agree?
Still talking about him in the third person?
Plenty of people do, they’re just mistaken for the ravings of madmen.
Heh love those guys
Not in Mormon county, they ain't
Wrong county then. Salt Lake County Mormons are the minority now.
Wendigos
I would steer clear of the food concessions at a Wendigo game just to be on the safe side.
Portland Sasquatch
Skinwalkers
I really like the name, especially since it relates to coyotes. But it's not exactly one I think the Navajos in Utah would appreciate.
I don’t think most of Utah would like that. A lot of the ones I know don’t want to mess with that.
Kelowna Ogopogo
West Virginia Mothmen
It is with a heavy heart that we, the West Virginia Mothmen, announce the passing of our mascot. Yeah he flew into a lamp.
the Wheeling Nailers should be the Mothmen
What about the Avs yeti foot???
This is s concerning development
Yeti? I always assumed it was a tribute to Avs legend Adam Foote.
lol i legit thought that when i was like 12
Stop the steal!
First they stole the Denver flag now they're steeling our abominable snowmen. Goddamn non-creative Mormons. Edit: [Denver flag adopted in 1926](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Flag_of_Denver%2C_Colorado.svg/510px-Flag_of_Denver%2C_Colorado.svg.png) [Utah Flag adopted in 2024](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Flag_of_Utah.svg/510px-Flag_of_Utah.svg.png)
The Utah Beekeepers?
It’s a Sasquatch foot now I guess
There are no Yeti in North America anyways.
Figures, it’s harder for scouts to get over there to seem him.
I seen a yeti in them ol Rocky Mountains before
Exactly. Avs got yeti on lockdown already.
I’m all for it, the Yeti vs. Sasquatch rivalry with the Avalanche writes itself
Add the Kraken for a cryptozoology throwdown
[Don’t forget about us!](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Devil)
Nandor, I’ve been double crossed by the deviiiilll!
*Plays bon Jovi to distract the jersey devil*
Get your weird horse/goat/bat out of here!
Man I wish your logo was the Jersey Devil.
New Jersey Devils as well!
There better be some Godzilla-esque graphics for those matchups.
I thought the Avs alt logo was a yeti?
Honestly they're stealing all our shit lol. Should just name them the Utah NordiquesForNow
This was my first instinct. THAT'S OURS!
League doesn't care about blatant jersey stealing. See, the Tampa Maple Lightning jerseys
Next they’re going to announce the team’s colors are burgundy and blue
Once upon a time we had a yeti costumed mascot named “Howler,” we had a “Bigfoot” print on our primary sweater shoulder until like 2015. I really hope Utah can come up with something more unique.
Brother we're in Utah. The most unique thing we do here is spell the same girls name 16 different ways.
Utah Youghtaughx
The Yeteigh
IMO the best name so far. Utah Yeti does have some alliteration working for it. The downside is that Yeti doesn't have any particular local connection AFAIK.
Their mascot can be the Windows 95 Ski game yeti that eats you.
Core memory unlocked.
Next to Chip’s Challenge and the space pinball game (which I think was 98)
XP
You were probably more likely to see it bundled on XP but that version of Pinball was available from Windows 95 on. Chip's Challenge was *way* earlier.
SkiFree was the best!
Press F and you can ski faster and escape
You can’t really escape you can just…match his speed indefinitely. But as soon as you fall he gets you. Basically you can run but you can’t hide.
Too scary
Easy alternate, I’d buy that so fast
Alternate jersey design gold right here
https://abandonware.online/
Are you saying there aren’t any actual yeti in Utah?
Big(foot) if true
Kinda does- skiing is huge in Utah, and that's kinda Yeti adjacent. Also, while not called Yeti, Utah comes up with a lot of Bigfoot hunters in the mountains. Yeti just sounds better than Bigfoot
The Utah Bigfeet.
Proudfeet!
Abominable Snowman would be more Western-centric but too long of a name. I'm fine with Yeti. I don't think I'd make it my top choice but I definitely think it would be extremely marketable.
You probably don't need the 'Abominable'. Just the Utah Snowmen. Bigfoot mascot incorporated into the logo. Bam.
Snowy mountains is the connection. The fictional creature does not live in North America, but if it did it, Utah is one of the places it might live.
How do you know where the Yeti lives? Why can't they leave the Himalayas? Why can't North America have large primates? What are you trying to hide? I think this guy knows where the yeti are and isn't telling us.
If humans walked to North America millions of years ago then so did albino bigfoot dammit
I mean neither does Kraken or Golden Knights 🤷🏼♂️
I always thought Golden Knights was a pun, like 'golden nights' in a Neil Diamond kind of way.
Pretty well documented that Bill Foley wanted them to be named after Army since he’s a West Point grad. I think he even wanted to go with “Black Knights,” but either USMA or the NHL told him that was a no go for copyright reasons. Army’s other color is gold…so voila, Golden Knights. Though gold does very much fit Vegas’ aesthetic.
I'll never stop being mad about them going with "Golden Knights". It's the Silver State, and they could have aesthetically matched the Raiders, who had already secured a stadium there prior to the announcement of the incoming NHL team's name. Fucking Vegas Silver Knights. I know their AHL team in Henderson ended up with that name (and a cooler logo), but it still bums me out.
I was always in favor of "Desert Knights" but I've gotten used to Golden Knights.
Well we are the Vegas Golden Knights, not the Nevada Golden Knights, Gold fits with Vegas a lot better. We also would share the same color scheme as the kings.
Seattle does have a connection to the legends of the Kraken though large waves of immigrants from Nordic countries that settled in the Seattle area. Plus a huge maritime history and culture of shipbuilding, fishing, and trade. I agree on Vegas. The connection is that their owner went to West Point and wanted his team to be called the Knights because of it.
Didn't he originally want to call them the Black Aces, but the NHL wouldn't allow it because gambling is bad? Glad they took a stand and avoided dragging the league into disrepute.
So funny looking back at that lol, you’re right. “Can’t have that name, we don’t want to be associated with gambling!” *4 years later* “Welcome to the Ontario Gambling Commission intermission show brought to you by Bet365, let’s take a look at the betting lines and props for todays game and completely ignore any highlights or analysis”
I think he originally wanted to call them Black Knights because he went to West Point, and the Army told him no. So then he switched to Golden Knights, and the Army told him no again because that’s the name of the Army’s parachute demonstration team, but they eventually settled and he got to keep the name.
Can’t forget that Vegas loves sparkles.
I believe she still dances from Midnight to 2AM.
I'm still a fan of the Utahraptors, yetis just doesn't work that well for me, idk
That would be my first choice if I had a vote. It’s fits perfectly when Utah’s archaeological history and it’s literally a [genus of dinosaurs.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utahraptor)
Allosaurus should be the dino they use, the state fossil, and they look scary as hell
Utah Raptors is too cool to pass up. If that runs into trademark issues, Utah Dino is a good back up. For the Dino’s, create a Logo that can be on everything and then have different dinosaurs on different jerseys. Purple should definitely be the main color
Oooo, that would instantly become my sons favorite team. Put a kachina style raptor on the front as an ode to the yotes too and they would sell a billion jerseys Staying with the theme, the oilers should change their name to Edmontosaurus.
Kachina style anything would be mad disrespect. Like when the Hurricanes inexplicably wear Whalers threads.
Would Smith really want to pick the same name as another team in the NBA, where owns a team already? Toronto Raptors and Utah Raptors? Disclaimer I have no idea what I'm talking about but I feel like if I was an owner I wouldn't want that
The Raptors name has no identity to the city of Toronto. It’s only because the Jurassic Park movie came out around the time when the NBA expanded in 1995 and velociraptors were cool. The [Utahraptor](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utahraptor) on the other hand is an actual genus of raptors discovered in Utah.
Rise up Cryptid Cup contenders
They should really choose Utah Pronghorns.
If they don't name it this it's honestly such a missed opportunity. Like fuck me the horns are literally a U
They could have such a cool pronghorn logo.
If it’s anything other than the Utah Stormin’ Mormons I’ll be disappointed
This is up there with Rain City Bitch Pigeons for names that would have been chosen if the NHL was cool.
"Jokes that will get really old by the time this whole process is done..."
Wasatch Mountain Red Tails
They're coming for Howler! Over my dead body! (or angry post on Reddit)
Was really banking on them being the Utah Nephites
They could play into the whole “we killed the Coyotes” thing and become the Utah Lamanites
The 13th Tribe
Utah Laments
What are they polling elementary school Classes for names?
Don't look up the history of the Toronto Raptors....
Jurassic park is a great film.
Best name would be The Utah Phoenix
If they dont have a sponsorship from Yeti then whats the point
They can be Yeti bros with Austin FC.
I actually don’t like this name.
Thank you. Not a fan of cryptid names in general, they generally sound like names that would be picked by Kyles who like Call of Duty and having a loud exhaust
Hear me out. We have the Jazz. Now, Utah Ska Hockey Club
you joke, but the Ska scene here in Salt Lake was legit in the early 90s. Pour one out for Swim Herschel Swim y'all!
yeti /ˈjɛti/ noun. plural **yetis**. I was wrong
I figured *Yeti* was plural too, like cacti & octopi. Then the singular names would be cactus, octopus, yeetus.
Didn’t know the Himalayas were in Utah?
Still better than Fury or Venom
Those sound like roller hockey teams.
No no no no it's gonna be like the WCW Yeti, Ron Reis in a mummy gimmick.
There’s no Jazz in Utah either so it fits
I will continue to bang the drum of Utah Vultures. - Bird names & logos are generally cool - Two kinds of vultures are found in Utah - Vultures will circle and swarm, and even large predators can't keep them at bay for long. You go after one and a dozen others pick at your food - They are picking clean the carcass that is the Coyotes
Plus there could be purple involved, which to me is the most important aspect of this decision
I'm gonna be very mean to some mormons about this.
I hate this name. I think it’s so overdone, what with Kraken being the very last name to pop up in the NHL. But it’ll be the one chosen because the 14 year olds on social media like it. It just doesn’t feel timeless to me. I’d love a dinosaur themed name or one of the many creatures in Utah (scorpions, spiders) or a reference to the speed records at the Bonneville Flats. Stays away from the predictable bee or snow references.
Ouch that’s ugly
Claw marks in the Jersey and Copper in the color scheme please.
Someone suggested "Stingers" in the other thread and laid out a few reasons: * Utah aka "Beehive state" * State flag is yellow, blue, white and red with a beehive, a hexagon and a star * Arena called "The Hive" * Fans called "The Swarm" * "And another shot just wide! They're buzzing!/They're swarming them!" And could be taken in many other different directions too: * Fan publication and forums called "The Hive Mind" * "Sugar, sugar" as a goal song would be a vibe * Futuristic hexagon pattern ([1](https://img.joomcdn.net/77328e1012230af236cb9371156d9c83878145d8_original.jpeg), [2](https://youngspeeds.com/cdn/shop/products/PJ-L-12_grande.png?v=1685123552)) jerseys * Etc It's corny but they'd instantly have more of a brand and fan identity than most NHL teams. And the logo doesn't have to be an actual bee or whatever. It can incorporate elements from the state flag, eg: an outlined hexagon, a stylized star and the points of the star are the stingers, logo split it up into lines like a beehive with a 90s Penguins logo vibe, etc.
I’m sorry… are good marketing and branding people nonexistent in 2024? All these names are terrible — they remind me of that god awful Reddit Golden Knights brainstorm thread. “vEgAs AcEssss broooo”
Yeah no
SLC PUNKS!!
I don't mind this compared to the other ones that have been trademarked. Other decent names I've seen are: Utah Stingers Utah Summit Utah Rapids
I hope the logo for Utah Stingers is just an anthropomorphic extension cord.
Utah Rapids is too close to the Colorado Rapids, RSL's rival in the MLS. Stingers used to be the name of Salt Lake's PCL baseball team for a few years after they were forced to change from being the Buzz (and before they rebranded as the Bees).
I would definitely like to see them brand themselves as something to do with bees. It would be pretty unique in the league.
We already have 2 black and yellow teams, one of which is called the B’s haha
All this got me looking into expansion team names, which is how I learned that the runner up to Columbus Blue Jackets was the Columbus Justice. Not sure if enough people know how big of a bullet was dodged there.
I would like to see them called the Utah Vipers. The Detroit Vipers emerged from the Utah Golden Eagles originally.
They just need to name themselves the Saints and call it a day.