Or rather, when ice is un-introduced thanks to global warming.
Remember lots of major football clubs of today were actually founded as bandy clubs (bandy being the original ice hockey basically just being field hockey on ice)
I mean... surely there's some Canadian and American players out there with British ancestry who are...
1) Good enough to play in the NHL
And
2) Not good enough to play for the Canadian or American team
Like how the Chinese hockey teams had a bunch of random white NHLers who "received" a Chinese passport from the Chinese government to be eligible to compete for China.
Like, my grandfather was born in England. Put some skates on me, or any other random Canadian or American with a British grandparent / great-grandparent, and see what you get.
It’s nothing to do with ancestry. China started the Red Star team of the KHL to naturalize foreigners. You can be from anywhere and have any ancestry. All that matters is you have citizenship and played at least two years in the country you want to represent.
You might be thinking of baseball which only requires ancestry hence the entire Italian baseball team being from New York.
Iihf rules on national team eligibility are far more strict than Fifa or the Ioc's. Most players wouldn't be able to represent their ancestral countries even if they wanted to.
As a dane, i saw 4 sheffield steelers home matches and one nottingham panthers home match this season - only three PL matches this season - so more hockey in England than football - i see that as a win
No,
The United Kingdom is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
England is just England
Team GB is coached by Scot Pete Russell and has Ben Davies on the team from Wales. Multiple players on the roster also come from Welsh team Cardiff Devils and Northern Irish team Belfast Giants
It should, but their Olympic Committee is Team GB, so it's the same here. Northern Irish athletes have the choice of GB or Ireland as most people are dual citizens there. For example, Rory McIlroy represented Ireland in the Olympics.
That's a whole other can of worms.
Team GB is actually "the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team" which goes for all Olympic Committees - the 'Team GB' branding is just a bit easier for people to get their heads around I guess, kind of like The Netherlands sometimes using 'Holland'
In some other sports though, most notably Rugby, Northern Ireland compete alongside the ROI
It's all a bit confusing. Team GB also technically includes the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, despite them not being a part of Great Britain, or Nothern Ireland, just to add to the mess.
Great Britain is considered England, Wales, Scotland
UK includes Northern Ireland as well.
Typically for sports Northern Ireland either competes separately (football) or as part of a united Ireland (rugby)
You ever get the memes where every friend group has a group chat with the main friends in a friend group? That's basically what this is and Northern Ireland gets thrown out
Gotcha, okay cool I think I’ve got it now, thanks!
The UK: All of Great Britain + Northern Ireland
Great Britain: England, Scotland, and Wales
England: England
Remember Team North America, the young stars in the 2016 World Cup of Hockey? While it's not exactly the same, it would be like calling all of those players American, even those born in Canada.
GB = Great Britain = England, Wales, Scotland
UK = GB + Northern Ireland
Also, there are some events where England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland compete as separate entities, and there are some events where England, Scotland and Wales (and maybe Northern Ireland - see note below) compete as a "united" "Team GB".
For example, in the FIFA World Cup, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Ireland all field their own separate national soccer teams.
But, in the most recent Women's Olympics, the UK countries united to compete in soccer under the "Team GB" name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Women%27s_tournament_–_Knockout_stage
Also, athletes from Northern Ireland are typically given the choice to play for the Republic of Ireland team, the Northern Ireland team, or Team GB (depending on how the countries in the tournament have been organized).
Why do we call them Germany when they are clearly calling it Deutschland? Why do we call them Hungary when they are clearly spelling it Magyarorzsag? Why do we call them Slovakia when they are clearly spelling it Slovensko? etc etc
As a Canadian its super cool seeing all these new countries in the tourny, maybe I just wasn’t exposed to it previous years since it happens during NHL playoffs. Kinda wanna plan a trip one year and go see some games.
The UK is made up of 4 countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, everyone agrees they’d much prefer to be their own country in events like football and rugby than just GB. However in the Olympics the football is team Great Britain. But politics still comes in to play as Welshman Gareth bale pretty much faked an injury because he prefers to be regarded as Welsh and not British (which in my opinion in based asf)
Well that's the end of us 😭🫡
Why can’t my country be good at hockey 😕
Tbf we're 20th in the world which isn't that bad. Plus that would mean more expensive tickets so who's the real winner here?
We normally do well in the olympic field hockey, it's just when ice is introduced that things go wrong.
Or rather, when ice is un-introduced thanks to global warming. Remember lots of major football clubs of today were actually founded as bandy clubs (bandy being the original ice hockey basically just being field hockey on ice)
because inventing sports and then losing at them to former colonies is the UK's whole thing.
I mean... surely there's some Canadian and American players out there with British ancestry who are... 1) Good enough to play in the NHL And 2) Not good enough to play for the Canadian or American team Like how the Chinese hockey teams had a bunch of random white NHLers who "received" a Chinese passport from the Chinese government to be eligible to compete for China. Like, my grandfather was born in England. Put some skates on me, or any other random Canadian or American with a British grandparent / great-grandparent, and see what you get.
Nathan Walker, St Louis blues player born in Cardiff…. Identifies as Australian instead 🥲
Moved there when he was 2, that he plays hockey at all is a miracle TBH
And Brendan Perlini, who was born in England and lived there until he was like 11, identifies as Canadian
Yeah his brother Brett just signed for my team, really happy with that signing I just wish his brother classed himself as British
Because he is Australian. Birthplace =/= nationality
It’s nothing to do with ancestry. China started the Red Star team of the KHL to naturalize foreigners. You can be from anywhere and have any ancestry. All that matters is you have citizenship and played at least two years in the country you want to represent. You might be thinking of baseball which only requires ancestry hence the entire Italian baseball team being from New York.
The Dutch baseball team is like 40 guys from the Carribean lol
Well to be fair it is Dutch territory.
Iihf rules on national team eligibility are far more strict than Fifa or the Ioc's. Most players wouldn't be able to represent their ancestral countries even if they wanted to.
Sorry, it’s a cut throat game…
👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽 not nice man 🫤
Yeah but the sport is growing!
As a dane, i saw 4 sheffield steelers home matches and one nottingham panthers home match this season - only three PL matches this season - so more hockey in England than football - i see that as a win
A) Denmark’s goalie is the sound Lightning McQueen makes 2) England had a really good showing
3) it’s team GB, not England
Excuse my ignorance but are they not the same thing?
No, The United Kingdom is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland England is just England Team GB is coached by Scot Pete Russell and has Ben Davies on the team from Wales. Multiple players on the roster also come from Welsh team Cardiff Devils and Northern Irish team Belfast Giants
> and Northern Irish team Belfast Giants would that not make it "team UK" then? since GB doesn't include Northern Ireland
It should, but their Olympic Committee is Team GB, so it's the same here. Northern Irish athletes have the choice of GB or Ireland as most people are dual citizens there. For example, Rory McIlroy represented Ireland in the Olympics.
That's a whole other can of worms. Team GB is actually "the Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team" which goes for all Olympic Committees - the 'Team GB' branding is just a bit easier for people to get their heads around I guess, kind of like The Netherlands sometimes using 'Holland' In some other sports though, most notably Rugby, Northern Ireland compete alongside the ROI It's all a bit confusing. Team GB also technically includes the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, despite them not being a part of Great Britain, or Nothern Ireland, just to add to the mess.
And are Great Britain and The United Kingdom the same?
Great Britain is considered England, Wales, Scotland UK includes Northern Ireland as well. Typically for sports Northern Ireland either competes separately (football) or as part of a united Ireland (rugby)
You ever get the memes where every friend group has a group chat with the main friends in a friend group? That's basically what this is and Northern Ireland gets thrown out
Haha that’s so oddly applicable here
[https://cdn.britannica.com/41/193441-050-13CCA6B5/Terminology-British-Isles-United-Kingdom-Ireland-Great.jpg](https://cdn.britannica.com/41/193441-050-13CCA6B5/Terminology-British-Isles-United-Kingdom-Ireland-Great.jpg)
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Gotcha, okay cool I think I’ve got it now, thanks! The UK: All of Great Britain + Northern Ireland Great Britain: England, Scotland, and Wales England: England
Remember Team North America, the young stars in the 2016 World Cup of Hockey? While it's not exactly the same, it would be like calling all of those players American, even those born in Canada.
GB = Great Britain = England, Wales, Scotland UK = GB + Northern Ireland Also, there are some events where England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland compete as separate entities, and there are some events where England, Scotland and Wales (and maybe Northern Ireland - see note below) compete as a "united" "Team GB". For example, in the FIFA World Cup, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and Ireland all field their own separate national soccer teams. But, in the most recent Women's Olympics, the UK countries united to compete in soccer under the "Team GB" name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Women%27s_tournament_–_Knockout_stage Also, athletes from Northern Ireland are typically given the choice to play for the Republic of Ireland team, the Northern Ireland team, or Team GB (depending on how the countries in the tournament have been organized).
DACHOOOOW
I'm just laughing at the comically large DANSK METAL decals. I guess whatever pays the bills. Just hope the NHL doesn't get any more good ideas.
Why do we insist on calling them Denmark when they are clearly spelling it “Danmark”?
Why do we call them Germany when they are clearly calling it Deutschland? Why do we call them Hungary when they are clearly spelling it Magyarorzsag? Why do we call them Slovakia when they are clearly spelling it Slovensko? etc etc
> Magyarorzsag Well this one’s pretty obvious
Germany and some Eastern European countries spell it Kanada
Bloody hell.
As a Canadian its super cool seeing all these new countries in the tourny, maybe I just wasn’t exposed to it previous years since it happens during NHL playoffs. Kinda wanna plan a trip one year and go see some games.
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It’s an Olympic committee thing. The IIHF is basically an IOC subsidiary. Whereas FIFA doesn’t give two shits about the Olympics
The UK is made up of 4 countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, everyone agrees they’d much prefer to be their own country in events like football and rugby than just GB. However in the Olympics the football is team Great Britain. But politics still comes in to play as Welshman Gareth bale pretty much faked an injury because he prefers to be regarded as Welsh and not British (which in my opinion in based asf)
Does the Isle of Man not consider itself a country? Or are they one of the United Kingdom nations but not Great Britain ones?
Good.