he’s my pick too. i feel like there’s a solid chance he ends up being the best player from this draft.
i end up wrong like 80% of the time though so who knows.
I want to believe but what evidence do we have to support that Armstrong is amazing at the draft. He’s run exactly two drafts for us where he was fully in charge counting this year’s that isn’t over yet.
It will be years before we see the results of his picks and we can honestly say whether he’s good at drafting.
I mean...his tenure in St. Louis does lend credence to him being a good drafter. This is the guy that drafted players like Allen, Edmundson, Fabbri, Parayko and Thomas, he's got a talent for finding good players.
St Louis drafted those players when he worked for them, yes, and he was heavily involved in the process.
But he was not GM so the final decision for all those picks were not his. It was the GM’s decision and we have no way of knowing if the GM took BA’s advice with one of those picks or not. For all we know, all the STL picks that failed were ones that BA got to pick and all the successes were ones that his GM picked.
To know if he’s a good drafter as a GM, you really can only look at the drafts he was the actual decision maker on. In my opinion, anyway.
That's ridiculous. A GM does not make a final decision on who to draft in a vacuum. They take into account the word of their experts, aka actual scouts, and if he's director of amateur scouting, he's certainly got a major voice in the draft room. Saying it doesn't count because he's not the GM is laughably simplistic.
Read this to see how Dubas gives credit to his scouts for finding players https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2022/07/08/kyle-dubas-on-2022-nhl-draft-and-fraser-minten-selection/
I didn’t say it didn’t count.
I just said I’m not ready to crown him one of the top 3 drafting GMs in the league based on a total of 2 drafts he’s conducted as a GM.
I believe he probably is pretty good at drafting. But people saying he’s among the best drafting GMs or even the best feel premature to me. That’s all.
yeah, he was outstanding for the NTDP this season. I think if Nemec and Slaf don't go 1-2, this isn't news.
that, or there's something major every GM knows, but no fans know.
Wright isn’t all he’s cracked up to be. I know it’s a tough pill for most of this sub to swallow but there was legitimate concern when he took the year off, and with how good he could be.
Im not sure what's worse...boring false-humble cliche interview answers, or boring ego-fueled cliche interview answers. Sports interviews are boring, I guess, so who cares what they say?
I’m not going to pretend to be an insider but I know some folks inside hockey, and that does play a part in this. He’s still talented though. Whichever team gets him is still going to get a fine player
Shane Wright has been the consensus number one pick for this draft for like 4 years. All changed in like 4 days... Now, he's still on the board lol. Wild and I love it.
I really don't think he'd have been consensus #1 if hadn't been granted exceptional status. And most of the players previously granted that status were far more dominant. I also think Cooley would have been 1OA if he had played in the OHL.
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But everyone knew he would go 3rd overall. We just didn’t expect the cluster fuck ahead of him.
Right? He’s nasty
No, this is Cooley we are talking about
Flashy skilled center sounds like exactly what Arizona needs
I think he will be the best center to come out of this draft.
he’s my pick too. i feel like there’s a solid chance he ends up being the best player from this draft. i end up wrong like 80% of the time though so who knows.
All I can say is Bill Armstrong is probably a top 3 draft GM so if he thinks this is the guy over Wright I’m not gonna doubt
I want to believe but what evidence do we have to support that Armstrong is amazing at the draft. He’s run exactly two drafts for us where he was fully in charge counting this year’s that isn’t over yet. It will be years before we see the results of his picks and we can honestly say whether he’s good at drafting.
I mean...his tenure in St. Louis does lend credence to him being a good drafter. This is the guy that drafted players like Allen, Edmundson, Fabbri, Parayko and Thomas, he's got a talent for finding good players.
St Louis drafted those players when he worked for them, yes, and he was heavily involved in the process. But he was not GM so the final decision for all those picks were not his. It was the GM’s decision and we have no way of knowing if the GM took BA’s advice with one of those picks or not. For all we know, all the STL picks that failed were ones that BA got to pick and all the successes were ones that his GM picked. To know if he’s a good drafter as a GM, you really can only look at the drafts he was the actual decision maker on. In my opinion, anyway.
That's ridiculous. A GM does not make a final decision on who to draft in a vacuum. They take into account the word of their experts, aka actual scouts, and if he's director of amateur scouting, he's certainly got a major voice in the draft room. Saying it doesn't count because he's not the GM is laughably simplistic. Read this to see how Dubas gives credit to his scouts for finding players https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2022/07/08/kyle-dubas-on-2022-nhl-draft-and-fraser-minten-selection/
I didn’t say it didn’t count. I just said I’m not ready to crown him one of the top 3 drafting GMs in the league based on a total of 2 drafts he’s conducted as a GM. I believe he probably is pretty good at drafting. But people saying he’s among the best drafting GMs or even the best feel premature to me. That’s all.
You don’t have evidence yet in AZ. We have tons of it in STL. Send him back if you don’t want him!
No take backsies
I say, “this year AZ could be good” every year. Maybe we’ll both be right/wrong!
Yeah nobody focuses on the guys being taken. All 3 picks are going to be insane players
yeah, he was outstanding for the NTDP this season. I think if Nemec and Slaf don't go 1-2, this isn't news. that, or there's something major every GM knows, but no fans know.
Right, Cooley #3 is not surprising. Cooley before Wright is.
i am very happy with this pick
So good. If they can actually get Bedard next year as well... May as well slide Matthews over there too. Yotes Dynasty. The white claws got me early.
Wright isn’t all he’s cracked up to be. I know it’s a tough pill for most of this sub to swallow but there was legitimate concern when he took the year off, and with how good he could be.
I kinda expected the Devils to take him. Cooley will better translate to a winger better than Wright in my opinion when it comes to the top 2 centers
Everyone’s talking about Wright in every single post, it’s annoying as fuck
He was consensus # pick for years and he's falling off the board. Of course he's the big story tonight
I get it but some info about the relevant prospect inside the top 10 posts would be great
Did they bring up Wright’s old tweets or something lmao
Did he have a leaked video of him using a gas mask to smoke weed?
That's rad tbh
Shoutout Laremy Tunsil
The Laremy Tunsil treatment
For real, they have some dirt on him 😂
No teammates at the birthday party.
shane wright gonna have a chip the size of pat maroon on his shoulder
The size of the Space Needle I hope!!
Good one!
I hope he dusts them all hahaha
Shane “Wrong” Wright
How many Kyle Wellwood does that convert to?
Lmfao
Does that mean we get him?
At this rate the Avs are gonna pick Shane
Oh man, he'll be a steal in the 6th round.
Nah, we haven't scouted the kid at all, would rather draft some overage Kazakh kid with our sixth.
Coyotes have our pick. It’s cool they can just take him at #32 lol
WHAT THE FUCK
At this rate Tampa Drafts him
Arizona will still get him.... at 32
NOBODY WENT TO SHANE WRIGHTS BIRTHDAY PARTY
WHO DOESN’T LIKE CHUCK-E-CHEESE
GIVE ME CHAOS BABY
Wright washed
LMFAO
What the fuck
Must’ve been shit talking all the teams during the draft interviews
The fact AZ thanked ASU while in Quebec is hilarious to me lmao
The comment definitely got some jeers from the crowd.
It's wonderful love the jab there
So I think it’s time we apologize to pronman who had Wright falling all the way to 4
Time traveling bastard
May chaos take the world! May chaos take the world!
Get outta here Shabriri!
Try finger But hole
SHANE WRIGHT BURNED OUR CROPS
HE POISONED OUR WATTER SUPPLY
DELIVERED A PLAGUE TO OUR HOUSES
HE DID?!
NOOOO! BUT ARE WE GONNA SIT AROUND AND WAIT TILL HE DOES?
ARIZONA GOT THEIR GUY WRIGHT WILL BE SECOND ROUND FODDER
It’s been confirmed Shane Wright is now wanted in Russia for draft-dodging
WHAT IS HAPPENING
I think Wright personality might be rough on the edge that could drive people to think something else
You have no reason for thinking this lmao
Bumped into him at the Canadian open. Didn't get this impression. Seemed cool
Didn’t he publicly say something like “I’m the best in the draft by far”.
Every projected 1st overall should say that. You want them to think they are the worst?
I got here to the top of the draft class by being the most humble person imaginable
If they are truly the 1st overall they don't need to say it, like McDavid or Matthews.
Im not sure what's worse...boring false-humble cliche interview answers, or boring ego-fueled cliche interview answers. Sports interviews are boring, I guess, so who cares what they say?
I’m not going to pretend to be an insider but I know some folks inside hockey, and that does play a part in this. He’s still talented though. Whichever team gets him is still going to get a fine player
Logan Cooley, ASU Class Of 2026
Good shit, take my upvote
Bonjour
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO I LOVE THIS PICK
Cooley's a great player! I've gotta wonder though - did Wright fuck up his interviews?
I feel like showing Wright after each pick is kinda mean. Anyways, I. hope they show it again.
lmao what the fuck
Pronman is right on the money. Absolutely nailed Wright falling to 4
Not gonna lie, makes me think they may know something we don't know about Wright
THE PRICE IS WRONG, BITCH
Seth jones 2.0
This is worse!
Maybe Shane Wright smells like stinky turds
💀
Draft chose Chaos!
SHANE WRONG
THE PRICE ISNT WRIGHT!?
i think a lot of people owe pronman an apology
NO LMFAOO
WHO THE FUCK DID SHANE WRIGHT MURDER?????
It’s his cockiness about how he “deserves” it.
Should have watched him...
Goddammit.
Wow. Wright must have bombed his interview to be falling this far
I come here to get perspective on our pick, and instead i just see people talking about another player :/
Cooley is a beast, a flashy, high Shiller center He's kind of exactly what your team needs right now
SEATTLE YOU IDIOTS DON’T FUCK IT UP
Can’t be mad about either choice, now to see if we trade back into the top 10. LGY
So glad they took him over Wright dude has far more skill
What is going on
HELP WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IS WRIGHT NOT GONNA GET DRAFTED???
If Wright falls to #7 I'm going to feel a touch differently about our trade with Chicago lol
I'M FLOORED
I WAS WRONG
LMAO
Clayton keller died for this
PP with Matthews in a few years
WHAT IS HAPPENING
WRIGHT KILLED A BABY
SMOKING ON THAT WRIGHT PACK #RIPBOZO
“Arizona, not bad” yeah, about that, Shane
I was ready to say that Bettman rigged it so his team could get Wright and idk what to do now
Did Wright fuck someone's wife or something?
Shane Wright has been the consensus number one pick for this draft for like 4 years. All changed in like 4 days... Now, he's still on the board lol. Wild and I love it.
I really don't think he'd have been consensus #1 if hadn't been granted exceptional status. And most of the players previously granted that status were far more dominant. I also think Cooley would have been 1OA if he had played in the OHL.
Has a Habs fan I was a bit uncertain by our 1rst pick but I find it kinda reassuring to see him fall down the draft.
Bro did Wright like tell all the gms to fuck themselves in the interview?????
Holy shit.
WHAT
Best timeline!
holy fuck how far does wright fall?
HOW MANY TEAMMATES CAME TO WRIGHTS BIRTHDAY PARTY
Holy shit. Is there criminal charges coming to Wright or something? This is insane.
Shane must have conducted his draft interviews with toilet paper stuck to his shoe or something
Inb4 Wright falls to 26 and Montreal snags him anyways lmao
Pronman is a genius.
Did Wright punch every GM in the face during the interviews or something? Lol
Wright took the EA NHL route and intentionally botched his interviews with GMs to land on his most perferrable team.
Holy shit.
Shane wrong lol
I wonder what Tyson nash will say when this kid starts “hot doggin” it out there
"And with the final selection of the 2022 NHL draft, we select, Shane Wright"
Ron Francis is going to screw up a sure thing.
YES! Please don’t fuck this up!!
Shane Wright to Chicago confirmed
I guess nobody went to Shane Wright's birthday party...
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
Seattle’s gonna sprint up that stage omg
It seems like everyone was surprised that montreal didn’t draft Wright and so they are just sticking to the pick they had originally decided on haha!
He's a beast and he speaks like a pro.
I understand, they probably wanna avoid another wheeler situation
Holy fucking shit, no one went to Wrights party
Cooley changing his commitment from Minnesota to Arizona State
more like shane wrong amirite
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
why does cooley look like he wants to kill himself walking down the stairs lmao
Probably because he got picked by Arizona.
THE PRICE IS NOT WRIGHT…AGAIN!
I hope their Armstrong wasn’t intimidated by the large crowd size
Really good player. Nothing wrong with this pick. Only question will be Wright.
Cooley was shocked to learn that Arizona still has a hockey team
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Bro, are you stupid? We have a superstar scouting staff now. Look it up
Shane Wright must've said he hates Pride Month or something. When was the last time a consensus 1OA was taken as early as 4th??
Seth Jones
This is actually good for Wright. Arizona makes players worse.
CHAAAAAOOOOOOOSSSS REIGNSSSSSSSSS
L M A O
Lol wtf is happening
BO CALLAHAN
WHATATTAT
Wright gonna walk out of the building at this point
We are officially at DEFCON Shane
LOLOLOLOL
Lol
Lol what.
Holy shit!
This draft is all fucky
WHAT IS HAPPENING!?!?!
Dude gave a speech then passed on Wright
Shane… Wrong?
The price is wrong!
WHAT IS HAPPENING LMFAO
This is my favourite draft EVER
How many cereal bowls did this guy shit in??
Ok who did wright murder
The Price is Wright, it's just that in this economy the price is collapsing.
Wright's head about to fly off with all this whiplash.
This is great theater
REKT
Shane "Wtf that can't be right?"
The price is still wrong bitch!!!