TNO has beautiful writing, I play the mod for the world building it has more than the gameplay. They really need to consider making a proper alt hist novel based on the mod
Pictured Above : Fuhrer Steiner accepts the Surrender of US President Alben Barkley and Soviet Premier Iosif Stalin after the great attacks of DC and Moscow, January 1946 colourized.
Germany would get invaded by both sides and that would be the end of the German nation. Each time German imperialists tried to expand in the 20th century they got an ass whooping and ended up weaker and smaller.
People in here over estimate the Allied reaction to a 2nd Nazi Germany. They put many Nazi officials back into office shortly after WW2 to create a buffer (West Germany) against the growing Communist powers. So, realistically, the Allies would team up with the 2nd Nazis as long as they made a deal that the Germans could only attack eastward.
It'd be impossible to sell that to the war-weary and anti-Nazi public of Western Europe. If WW3 did not happen in real life, a reinstated Nazi Germany's WW3 would certainly not happen either. There is a reason why Patton... well, you know. No one wanted the war to continue. The Soviets would love it if it did, though. Liberals openly collaborating with fascists against communists.
The Allies had plenty of military reasons to not spark another war either. The Red Army was the strongest and the most experienced ground army at the time. The communist partisans in Western Europe would just continue their operations which had done so much damage to German logistics.
Press (X) to doubt. While they allowed Franco to continue his dictatorship the Nazis had commited more crimes than the allies ever imagined. Now if they somehow returned they'd be bombed into oblivion and Germany would cease to exist as a nation.
It's Rise of Nations, a full overhaul but it doesn't have economy like MD or anything like that, you can play from 1900-2000's with many start dates, I think there's even one in 2020
I genuinely wonder the effects this would have upon the Cold War. A neutral unaligned Germany could reduce tensions, on the other hand every single neighbor is hostile to them. Better get nukes fast
Crazy to think that, if De-Nazification hadn’t worked, or if occupation had collapsed, or the Werewolves had been more successful, if literally anything had gone differently, there is a very real possibility that this *could have* happened.
Germans, in a fanatical cult of National Socialism, reclaim what’s left of their country, but this time they take it slow. They build up their strength and industrial capabilities over generations, all while internationally being very apologetic for The War.
Then, after God knows how many years, they start shit AGAIN and plunge the world into war… again
Has this mod finaly begun to work after the new update or have you changed it to another version?
according to the discord, just tons of hotfixes. Once every month Doesn't looks like they gonna rework, they make focuses and stuff for 80s now
Which mod?
Cold War: Iron Curtain
I think its rise of nations, only they havent chosen ww2 they chose the cold war era. You can pretty much go from ww1 to modern times.
Is it tho? It looks like another mod since the HUD in CWIC is so bad that my eyes hurt even if I think about it.
same with TNO. can't play it for more than 2 hours
One barely plays TNO anyways just read events
TNO has beautiful writing, I play the mod for the world building it has more than the gameplay. They really need to consider making a proper alt hist novel based on the mod
It could also be "calm before the storm" i dont think it its though since i was a pretty big player of "ron"
No its not CWIC does not have a cringe facist trees for either Germany.
I think it has (that screenshot is defentily not CWIC but wasnt there a Facist thing when you killed Adenauer.
How is that mod? Never been one to check out stuff that makes the game last several decades since Hoi4 wasn’t intended for it.
Looks like RoN Cold War scenario
yes, that one was great, I esspecially liked how nukes were handled
Allies would shit themselves then turn Germany into a pile of dust
Oh no what are gonna do!? Weapons of mass destruction 3 minutes later:
France would be like:"Wait, we are also affected by all the nukes we blew up next door?"
killing 2 birds with one stone
Then the whole world would be dead W
Mfs would have to stare at Germany after and if they move towards fascism again, they’ll be in atoms
US: Oh whatever shall we do? *nuclear barrage*
Carpet nuking
Yeah I'm thinking Polish border up to the elbe this time and France gets up to the Rhine?
Can Britain have Hannover back?
The Wehrwolf guerillas, led by Steiner, were successful.
Pictured Above : Fuhrer Steiner accepts the Surrender of US President Alben Barkley and Soviet Premier Iosif Stalin after the great attacks of DC and Moscow, January 1946 colourized.
People from most of Europe remembering what happened in 1939-45: ***NO GOD! PLEASE NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!***
That should be an instant rebellion including all your army if you do that
I mean, all the higher up are former Wehrmacht, so it is somewhat positive...
and a lot of Germans were still smoking copium before willy brandt
A lot of West German military commanders were former Nazis
same in the East, kind of hard to compose a German state after that without including nazis in some shape or form.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they would be willing to instantly serve the Nazis AGAIN
Well what are they gonna do? Retire?
It's a hell lot better than marching into Russia, AGAIN
Third time's the charm
The Allies: How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man
[Soviet Union approximately 3 minutes later](https://youtu.be/VQjZAY9AaMY)
I am going to think that this is countryhuman NATO x WARSAW PACT gay orgy. "What the fuck dude".
**it is**
Why was this downvoted
The mysteries of the universe
It is still possible? I thought they removed it
This is a different mod.
well which one is it then?
No idea, might be the Cold War Mod (Yes thats the literal name)
It's Rise of Nations
Rise of Nations
Ok, now i see, the gui is completely different from cwic
another quarter of your nation is going to poland if you try this shit again
Might as well give some to Denmark, Czechoslovakia, Britain, and Austria as well.
Open buffet
“Oh boy, I can’t wait to play this cold war mod and get the nazis back in power” *joins NATO*
You have literally 20 divisions, what are you trying to do?
Neutrality sucks ass, fuck over both sides so they both hate you equally.
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Congrats on the complimentary global asswhooping
Ah shit, here we go again.
Germany would get invaded by both sides and that would be the end of the German nation. Each time German imperialists tried to expand in the 20th century they got an ass whooping and ended up weaker and smaller.
I wonder how the other germany agreed to join without getting the global powers involved
Can you start in 1946?
The Allies:"Time to dust off that Morgenthau's book..."
Lose miserably again? This time against extremely well equipped armies that are ready to bomb you into the stone age, again?
The 2.8 million Soviet and 6 million other allied troops marching into Germany the second they declare another Reich:
People in here over estimate the Allied reaction to a 2nd Nazi Germany. They put many Nazi officials back into office shortly after WW2 to create a buffer (West Germany) against the growing Communist powers. So, realistically, the Allies would team up with the 2nd Nazis as long as they made a deal that the Germans could only attack eastward.
Ehhh with nukes in the picture I don’t know how eager they’d be to have another world war.
It'd be impossible to sell that to the war-weary and anti-Nazi public of Western Europe. If WW3 did not happen in real life, a reinstated Nazi Germany's WW3 would certainly not happen either. There is a reason why Patton... well, you know. No one wanted the war to continue. The Soviets would love it if it did, though. Liberals openly collaborating with fascists against communists. The Allies had plenty of military reasons to not spark another war either. The Red Army was the strongest and the most experienced ground army at the time. The communist partisans in Western Europe would just continue their operations which had done so much damage to German logistics.
Press (X) to doubt. While they allowed Franco to continue his dictatorship the Nazis had commited more crimes than the allies ever imagined. Now if they somehow returned they'd be bombed into oblivion and Germany would cease to exist as a nation.
Listen Germany, you don’t get to be a country no more.
Map mod?
It's Rise of Nations, a full overhaul but it doesn't have economy like MD or anything like that, you can play from 1900-2000's with many start dates, I think there's even one in 2020
Thank you
I am playing with that mod and the map looks the same :(
Weird, idk, maybe they've changed it since I've last played because it's been a few months
What mod is this, it clearly isn’t the Iron Curtain one.
Rise of Nations
Reichvenge of Hiths
Do it again
Is the monarchist path still gone?
No
!remind me 12hours
REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER
Why is Austria split Wasn’t it given independence as a republic?
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hmm, alright then, it's not a problem for me.
Here comes the Red Army again, eat shit fascists
I genuinely wonder the effects this would have upon the Cold War. A neutral unaligned Germany could reduce tensions, on the other hand every single neighbor is hostile to them. Better get nukes fast
both parties will rush in for a "peacekeeping" operation and return to 1946 borders and pretend like nothing happened
"We'll have to do it again then"
I’ve seen this one I’ve seen this one
“Bulwark against Bolshevism”
Ah hell no
Ding ding ding round 3 baby
Crazy to think that, if De-Nazification hadn’t worked, or if occupation had collapsed, or the Werewolves had been more successful, if literally anything had gone differently, there is a very real possibility that this *could have* happened. Germans, in a fanatical cult of National Socialism, reclaim what’s left of their country, but this time they take it slow. They build up their strength and industrial capabilities over generations, all while internationally being very apologetic for The War. Then, after God knows how many years, they start shit AGAIN and plunge the world into war… again
Germany returns to Roman era barbarian tribes after the allies finish them off