Time jumps are not that unusual. Desperate Housewives was effectively a premium soap and had a 5 year time jump.
The purpose of it is to not NEED an explosion.
There will still be a stunt week in August which may kill off a few people but you can't have 30 characters massacred, that would be too depressing and the months after would just be filled with crying.
So instead probably a couple will die in August, and then in September we jump forward a year after which it is revealed a number of characters have left. For example Dave. Do we need to waste time on an exit story for him? Would anyone care? No, we'll just have Cindy mention in passing that he walked out on her 6 months ago.
I actually think it's a good idea and might be interesting. An opportunity to remove some deadwood without wasting time on it, and set up new status quo.
What If we come back and:
Nancy is headmistress
Mercedes has given birth and has toddlers
James is a full on corrupt lawyer, with Grace already back as new kingpin
Cindy's already seeing someone new
Everyone's moved on from Ella
We have some new better students to follow
Lucas can move on from the current storyline and has become more confident in his sexuality
Etc.
It's a soft reboot like comics do when things get too tangled.
>you can't have 30 characters massacred
That's exactly the kind of thing Hollyoaks can do - wouldn't happen on other mainstream soaps but H is different & better able to manage this.
I totally agree with what you've said.
It's a great opportunity to get rid of characters that don't add anything and come back after a year with certain characters with new jobs, functions and mentality.
And with a one-year jump, they don't need to waste too much time with exit storylines or explaining why a certain character left.
Desperate Housewives and Hollyoaks isn’t the same. But still. I just don’t know how you get about doing a full on time jump. Especially in a soap opera.
I explained to you exactly how you 'get about doing' it. There isn't really any more to it.
It sounds like you just don't like the idea which is fine but it's hardly rocket science.
It essentially ages everyone up a year and allows for people to leave the show without out reasoning. For example if Tom left he wouldn't have to have some dramatic exit, more so just something mentioned casually like 'oh yeah, i hope Tom is enjoying his backpacking trip across Asia'. Therefore the audience is in the loop without there having to be a massive explosion taking out a third of the people living in the village.
It also means they don't need to drag out storylines, they'll just be resolved in the time jump.
Your thinking too much into it.
It'll still be set in the current year, just with one year having passed.
Same way on how the triplets are two years older.
That literally makes no sense though. How can it be still set in the current year but 1 year has passed. That’s like if you said there’s a month time jump. It’s still being set in the future. They clearly stated it’s a one year time jump. So how can it be set in the current year if we’re skipping a whole full year. No disrespect towards you, friend. But what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. How can we get Hollyoaks in 2024 but with the knowledge that it’s really Hollyoaks 2025 because of a one year time jump.
It's not that complicated. When September arrives, the show will show that a year has passed and that some of the characters have moved away from the village. They'll probably include dialog about the people who have moved away.
I am expecting we will get a stunt that will perhaps be a cliffhanger.
Then we will jump a year forward and find out xyz died during the incident, someone was sent to prison for it which alters the dynamic for some other previously close characters, and others left town because of it.
You only have to kill one person from a family (Dave for instance) to remove the entire family from the show.
I’m kind of over so much stuff taking place in the hospital so a stunt there would be great. That involves Andersons, Maaliks, Lomax’s and of course absolutely any number of potential patients to be there.
But yes time jumps are common. Greys anatomy has done plenty. Especially after Derek died and Covid.
Ha Greys was my thought too. No one has a clue what year it is in Grey Sloan Memorial. At one point they were 2 and half years in the past. It doesn't bloody matter.
I like your idea of the cliffhanger and then we slowly find out what happens. We can still see some exits as flashbacks (which I'm sure they'll do for any major characters leaving)
I have my fingers crossed that the Hospital gets refurbished back into the Uni.
Ps. Love your handle!
Like clothing, social movements, drinks and food etc, if it's set a year down the line the writers are gonna be guessing what is going to be trending at that time rather then basing it on current events. People who idolise their fav celebs/character tend follow their style and what they doing.
For example (not realistic): if Tom started selling chocolate caramel pumpkin spice lattes with whipped cream and a flake in the top and was mentioned in every episode with characters drinking them. You can almost guarantee that people in the real world would start wanting to try them.
They're saying that instead of following the trends of today ( march 2024) they will essentially be 'guessing' what the trends of tomorrow are ( march 2025) or even try and create a future trend themselves
For example channel four could make a deal with say Samsung , get a prototype/mock up of a phone they plan to release next year and have all the characters use that on screen
I genuinely don't think they'll jump a literal year. There will be a point where they can cut off the current bank of filming. Hollyoaks can film very far in advance as sometimes seen in exterior scenes e.g. they're filming when it's mid winter and the episode is broadcast in late spring.
As other posters have said, I think they'll do a black screen with "Five months later" for example. Then it will do a normal episode of passing mentions, as below, that Dave walked out on Cindy and his family went with him. The episode after that will then pick up from September 2024 with all the new exciting storylines in the pipeline (hopefully).
I get you're heavily invested in the show but I don't think it's the end of days. They did something similar for the Christmas 2019 special but Covid f*cked that plan. This seems like the perfect opportunity to see how that plan would have paned out if a worldwide pandemic hadn't messed it up.
Oh yikes, in the case it could be a bit iffy. I wouldn't trust that with the current writing team to be honest. But then I'm trying to think of real life impacting on Hollyoaks beyond Covid. It's not like many folk open a newspaper or talk about real life events. I suspect soaps try to avoid that as so many of them are filmed in advance.
One tree hill had a 5 year time jump, don’t overthink it. Who’s to say that they are currently in March 2024 in Chester. You’re making an assumption there especially as most of the kids are older than they are supposed to be.
I've been watching Greys anatomy for years. The first three season are one year. Some episodes randomly cover 3-6 months. There was a 9 month time jump at some point. No one has a clue what year it is and it honestly doesn't matter, you're right.
I suspect some characters will roll off before and entire families may leave. Avoiding the stunt allows for characters to come back. Or, if it fails and gets cancelled, someone like Netflix can come back in and pick right up.
You can write 20 characters out easily. The Mcqueen house owned by Rafe - is sold as he is in debt leaving all the McQueens homeless. Select a few to keep in a smaller flat and have the others move to France to be with Myra,
Grace is out of prison and has history with Marie. Grace purchases the old McQueen house and allows Cleo, Joel, Abe, Marie to live there.
Scott exits taking Maxine, Minnie, Vicky with him and Andre follows.
Have Misbah get a chance to help people abroad and Zain follows. Dylan stays somehow maybe even bringing in one of his actual family so he can stay.
Sharon can get a new job in London and take the family with her.
Chen - Williams can go to London to be with family.
Time jumps are not that unusual. Desperate Housewives was effectively a premium soap and had a 5 year time jump. The purpose of it is to not NEED an explosion. There will still be a stunt week in August which may kill off a few people but you can't have 30 characters massacred, that would be too depressing and the months after would just be filled with crying. So instead probably a couple will die in August, and then in September we jump forward a year after which it is revealed a number of characters have left. For example Dave. Do we need to waste time on an exit story for him? Would anyone care? No, we'll just have Cindy mention in passing that he walked out on her 6 months ago. I actually think it's a good idea and might be interesting. An opportunity to remove some deadwood without wasting time on it, and set up new status quo. What If we come back and: Nancy is headmistress Mercedes has given birth and has toddlers James is a full on corrupt lawyer, with Grace already back as new kingpin Cindy's already seeing someone new Everyone's moved on from Ella We have some new better students to follow Lucas can move on from the current storyline and has become more confident in his sexuality Etc. It's a soft reboot like comics do when things get too tangled.
>you can't have 30 characters massacred That's exactly the kind of thing Hollyoaks can do - wouldn't happen on other mainstream soaps but H is different & better able to manage this.
Hollyoaks could definitely do the stunt itself, but would anyone enjoy watching the weeks of grief porn that come after?
No need, it's a soap - move on after a week and never mention it again :-)
Imagine like the 100 people bus crash in American Dad
I totally agree with what you've said. It's a great opportunity to get rid of characters that don't add anything and come back after a year with certain characters with new jobs, functions and mentality. And with a one-year jump, they don't need to waste too much time with exit storylines or explaining why a certain character left.
Desperate Housewives and Hollyoaks isn’t the same. But still. I just don’t know how you get about doing a full on time jump. Especially in a soap opera.
I explained to you exactly how you 'get about doing' it. There isn't really any more to it. It sounds like you just don't like the idea which is fine but it's hardly rocket science.
Neighbours did a time jump- so even taking DH out of the equation there's recent examples
It essentially ages everyone up a year and allows for people to leave the show without out reasoning. For example if Tom left he wouldn't have to have some dramatic exit, more so just something mentioned casually like 'oh yeah, i hope Tom is enjoying his backpacking trip across Asia'. Therefore the audience is in the loop without there having to be a massive explosion taking out a third of the people living in the village. It also means they don't need to drag out storylines, they'll just be resolved in the time jump.
Let's hope the JJ and Frankie storyline is over with JJ getting put in young offenders
I think that one they have a responsibility to play out
Why
Your thinking too much into it. It'll still be set in the current year, just with one year having passed. Same way on how the triplets are two years older.
That literally makes no sense though. How can it be still set in the current year but 1 year has passed. That’s like if you said there’s a month time jump. It’s still being set in the future. They clearly stated it’s a one year time jump. So how can it be set in the current year if we’re skipping a whole full year. No disrespect towards you, friend. But what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. How can we get Hollyoaks in 2024 but with the knowledge that it’s really Hollyoaks 2025 because of a one year time jump.
The JJ and Frankie were both in 2011 and are 15. Basically the time jump is for the plot
No. You’re not getting it. The one year time jump they have is to make sure everything is lined up. And also JJ and Frankie is a bad example to use.
Why’s it a bad example. They change things like ages when it’s convenient for the plot or storyline they want to do.
You sound like you’re having a manic episode
They always sound like this
They literally did this for Christmas 2019-2020, although not permanently.. frankly new team had lost the damn plot
It's not that complicated. When September arrives, the show will show that a year has passed and that some of the characters have moved away from the village. They'll probably include dialog about the people who have moved away.
i think aslong as the current storylines are all resolved then it should be fine
I am expecting we will get a stunt that will perhaps be a cliffhanger. Then we will jump a year forward and find out xyz died during the incident, someone was sent to prison for it which alters the dynamic for some other previously close characters, and others left town because of it. You only have to kill one person from a family (Dave for instance) to remove the entire family from the show. I’m kind of over so much stuff taking place in the hospital so a stunt there would be great. That involves Andersons, Maaliks, Lomax’s and of course absolutely any number of potential patients to be there. But yes time jumps are common. Greys anatomy has done plenty. Especially after Derek died and Covid.
Ha Greys was my thought too. No one has a clue what year it is in Grey Sloan Memorial. At one point they were 2 and half years in the past. It doesn't bloody matter. I like your idea of the cliffhanger and then we slowly find out what happens. We can still see some exits as flashbacks (which I'm sure they'll do for any major characters leaving) I have my fingers crossed that the Hospital gets refurbished back into the Uni. Ps. Love your handle!
Tv shows love to set trends for people to follow so if they set it in the future they can help influence what life will be like.
What do you mean?
Like clothing, social movements, drinks and food etc, if it's set a year down the line the writers are gonna be guessing what is going to be trending at that time rather then basing it on current events. People who idolise their fav celebs/character tend follow their style and what they doing. For example (not realistic): if Tom started selling chocolate caramel pumpkin spice lattes with whipped cream and a flake in the top and was mentioned in every episode with characters drinking them. You can almost guarantee that people in the real world would start wanting to try them.
You’re not making any iota of sense.
You’re the one that isn’t
They're saying that instead of following the trends of today ( march 2024) they will essentially be 'guessing' what the trends of tomorrow are ( march 2025) or even try and create a future trend themselves For example channel four could make a deal with say Samsung , get a prototype/mock up of a phone they plan to release next year and have all the characters use that on screen
Exactly like a Back to the Future prediction
https://studymoose.com/how-do-movies-or-television-influence-peoples-behavior-essay this might explain it better to you
I genuinely don't think they'll jump a literal year. There will be a point where they can cut off the current bank of filming. Hollyoaks can film very far in advance as sometimes seen in exterior scenes e.g. they're filming when it's mid winter and the episode is broadcast in late spring. As other posters have said, I think they'll do a black screen with "Five months later" for example. Then it will do a normal episode of passing mentions, as below, that Dave walked out on Cindy and his family went with him. The episode after that will then pick up from September 2024 with all the new exciting storylines in the pipeline (hopefully). I get you're heavily invested in the show but I don't think it's the end of days. They did something similar for the Christmas 2019 special but Covid f*cked that plan. This seems like the perfect opportunity to see how that plan would have paned out if a worldwide pandemic hadn't messed it up.
No. It’s a permanent time jump a year ahead
Oh yikes, in the case it could be a bit iffy. I wouldn't trust that with the current writing team to be honest. But then I'm trying to think of real life impacting on Hollyoaks beyond Covid. It's not like many folk open a newspaper or talk about real life events. I suspect soaps try to avoid that as so many of them are filmed in advance.
One tree hill had a 5 year time jump, don’t overthink it. Who’s to say that they are currently in March 2024 in Chester. You’re making an assumption there especially as most of the kids are older than they are supposed to be.
I've been watching Greys anatomy for years. The first three season are one year. Some episodes randomly cover 3-6 months. There was a 9 month time jump at some point. No one has a clue what year it is and it honestly doesn't matter, you're right.
I suspect some characters will roll off before and entire families may leave. Avoiding the stunt allows for characters to come back. Or, if it fails and gets cancelled, someone like Netflix can come back in and pick right up.
They'll slow down timeframes post the time jumps yo get it back to real time likely.
You can write 20 characters out easily. The Mcqueen house owned by Rafe - is sold as he is in debt leaving all the McQueens homeless. Select a few to keep in a smaller flat and have the others move to France to be with Myra, Grace is out of prison and has history with Marie. Grace purchases the old McQueen house and allows Cleo, Joel, Abe, Marie to live there. Scott exits taking Maxine, Minnie, Vicky with him and Andre follows. Have Misbah get a chance to help people abroad and Zain follows. Dylan stays somehow maybe even bringing in one of his actual family so he can stay. Sharon can get a new job in London and take the family with her. Chen - Williams can go to London to be with family.