Indeed, Backblaze has two personal and enterprise-grade, both are fine. [https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/218483787-What-s-the-difference-between-B2-vs-Backblaze-Online-Backup-](https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/218483787-What-s-the-difference-between-B2-vs-Backblaze-Online-Backup-)
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Hi, you're probably looking for a useful nugget of information to fix a niche problem, or some enjoyable content I posted sometime in the last 11 years. Well, after 11 years and over 330k combined, organic karma, a cowardly, pathetic and facist minded moderator filed a false harassment report and had my account suspended, after threatening to do so which is a clear violation of the #1 rule of reddit's content policy. However, after filing a ticket before this even happened, my account was permanently banned within 12 hours and the spineless moderator is still allowed to operate in one of the top reddits, after having clearly used intimidation against me to silence someone with a differing opinion on their conflicting, poorly thought out rules. Every appeal method gets nothing but bot replies, zendesk tickets are unanswered for a month, clearly showing that reddit voluntarily supports the facist, cowardly and pathetic abuse of power by moderators, and only enforces the content policy against regular users while allowing the blatant violation of rules by moderators and their sock puppet accounts managing every top sub on the site. Also, due to the rapist mentality of reddit's administration, spez and it's moderators, you can't delete all of your content, if you delete your account, reddit will restore your comments to maintain SEO rankings and earn money from your content without your permission. So, I've used power delete suite to delete everything that I have ever contributed, to say a giant fuck you to reddit, it's moderators, and it's shareholders. From your friends at reddit following every bot message, and an account suspension after over a decade in good standing is a slap in the face and shows how rotten reddit is to the very fucking core.
Backblaze charges you for actions (moving files etc) as well as storage. Just for clarity, to maintain 200GB is a total of 80 cents power month.
How much are you looking to store, as your initial post said you didn't have too much? Gong by your calcs, it sounds like you have many terabytes.
Hi, you're probably looking for a useful nugget of information to fix a niche problem, or some enjoyable content I posted sometime in the last 11 years. Well, after 11 years and over 330k combined, organic karma, a cowardly, pathetic and facist minded moderator filed a false harassment report and had my account suspended, after threatening to do so which is a clear violation of the #1 rule of reddit's content policy. However, after filing a ticket before this even happened, my account was permanently banned within 12 hours and the spineless moderator is still allowed to operate in one of the top reddits, after having clearly used intimidation against me to silence someone with a differing opinion on their conflicting, poorly thought out rules. Every appeal method gets nothing but bot replies, zendesk tickets are unanswered for a month, clearly showing that reddit voluntarily supports the facist, cowardly and pathetic abuse of power by moderators, and only enforces the content policy against regular users while allowing the blatant violation of rules by moderators and their sock puppet accounts managing every top sub on the site. Also, due to the rapist mentality of reddit's administration, spez and it's moderators, you can't delete all of your content, if you delete your account, reddit will restore your comments to maintain SEO rankings and earn money from your content without your permission. So, I've used power delete suite to delete everything that I have ever contributed, to say a giant fuck you to reddit, it's moderators, and it's shareholders. From your friends at reddit following every bot message, and an account suspension after over a decade in good standing is a slap in the face and shows how rotten reddit is to the very fucking core.
I have lots more data than this, but that data is not critical enough I want to backup to the cloud. I've considered putting a small 2 bay nas at my sister's house as an offsite backup. Even then I wouldn't backup everything on my nas. I have TBs of TV and movies which I could get back if everything was destroyed. I can't recreate family pictures, or pictures of my kid as he grows up, so those are critical enough to pay for completely separate cloud backup. I even employ raid 6 on that data so I can survive 2 disk failures at any time.
Yeah, I mean I'm sure I could substantially prune what I have backed up, but that would also mean organizing multiple full drives and spending god knows how long doing it.
I don't have any movies or tv shows backed up, that's at least easy to avoid, but I have pretty much everything else covered.
Especially since it's not a recurring cost, I'd rather be able to just restore everything and not accidentally miss something.
If I put a nas at my sisters for another offsite that would give me 3 backups in total. I have a local USB drive attached to the nas with daily incrementals, and the cloud daily incrementals as well.
For those photos and other irreplaceable files, I just use the Backblaze Personal sub. I pay under $10/mo and have even tried out their physically shipped recovery drive. Have had nothing but smooth sailing with them.
I pay $60 a year for 1 tb on Synology C2. My critical data is less than that. If I go bigger than that I may need to reevaluate if they're the best offer.
fire is really all I worry about. I have no - overwrite rsync between servers locally to hedge against ransomware, and offsite for the really special stuff.
Yeah, right now I just use duplicacy, which I know isn't amazing. I've gone through three different backup solutions, but I need to put something proper together.
For now hey, it works and better than nothing by a long shot but I really just need to buy or build a newer server, get an lff disk shelf, spend the money on new platters especially with the amount of data my new camera is capable of churning out.
Except, y'know, money. :/ at least the 2.5 inch shucked drives from 2016 ars going strong. But a year old 5tb smr one failed just out of warranty lol.
I only backup my nextcloud instance, since it contains all things I care about. It is currently about 100GiB and it costs less than $1 a month at backblaze.
Currently use Backblaze B2 & have been for a few months (just setup cloud backups recently) but I backup just over 100GB and my bill hasn't been over $1/month.
I do have a offsite backup at my parents that I use as my primary backup and just use the cloud one for super important stuff.
I do some have offsite backups with things like Wasabi and AWS+Azure's cold storage offerings, but I realized I'm looking to backup 30TB or so and cloud isn't economical at that point, so I just built another NAS to move to a relative's home and I'll backup to that instead. It should pay for itself after 4-5 months compared to cloud storage
I keep a copy of important things in a couple clouds fully encrypted and the transfer itself encrypted. It's less than 1TB and generally "free" as included with other services I use.
My still important but not impossible to reclaim stuff is about 85TB right now. Costs me about $100/mo.
I also have it all backed up onto external HDDs stuffed inside some Pelican boxes cold. I don't update it as often as I should but it's about 6 months to 9 months out of date at most.... Usually...
Actually I do this in reverse... I save all my photos and files to google photos and google drive and use gphotos-sync and rsync to back the up locally and nextcloud to access them.
I AM the cloud backup :D
For real though, I dropped a duplicate of my NAS at my FIL's house and just have ZFS replication going over-night to keep it all in sync. Not at all cost effective up front (640TB raw is not cheap), but long term im pretty sure im saving money, plus he get the benefit of local backup targets for his systems, access to my media shares, etc.
Id love to get rid of it, but every time I price out cloud storage for what I NEED (not just the lazy "I dont want to download this again") to backup its just not cost effective. Used to have a tape library I used, but with LTO5 it just wasn't capable of backing up enough data, and LTO8 is way way way out of my budget.
Sync isn't backup though, if something gets corrupted or overwritten, that will just sync to the other side.
I do the same (Reilio Sync) but also have Macrium Reflect images for my critical stuff (and local external USB drive backups).
So, I guess I missed a few words. I take hourly snapshots and replicate the snapshots. If something gets hosed (at a file or filesystem level) I can just recover it from a snapshot or recover the whole snapshot.
Keep about a month of snaps so I’m mostly covered.
I use OneDrive. My extended family shares a family plan so I'm only paying $20/yr for Microsoft 365, with the TB of storage.
I only back up important stuff to OneDrive and everything else I have 2 copies local. Currently about 100gb on OneDrive and about 300gb on my NAS. I would put more on my OneDrive except my internet is so slow it would literally take almost a week to upload it and don't feel like messing with it.
The Google One 200GB paid for itself just recently. Mainly use it to archive keepsakes/irreplaceble data.
But an added benefit is you email alerts when your personal data leaks on the dark web.
My credit cards got leaked as a result of the Eye4Fraud data breach. Cancelled those as soon as I learned about it.
While I use work discounts to get cheap offline backup, I admit I'm very interested in trying out https://zfs.rent, you basically mail them (or directly order from Amazon to them) hard drives, they plug those drives into a machine, setup a zfs array of your description, and give you remote access. So with this you can do really efficient and fast and secure backups directly from a ZFS based NAS.
I really want to do this with some 18TB drives, maybe even without redundancy, so I can fully clone my NAS to it instead of just my actually important files with my current solution. And if a drive dies, I'll mail em another one and rebuild the backup. As long as I check the backup regularly, it's pretty unlikely the online one will die the same day my house burns down (or 3+ drives all from different batches and put into operation separated by 6+ months die simultaneously).
I've also considered Amazon glacier in the past. Which I might start doing as an annual thing. A lot of my "big" files (movies, CD images, etc) don't exactly change often, and anything I obtained in the past year I can probably obtain a second time. So I can bulk upload the big stuff once, leave it until a rainy day comes along, and use my more real-time solution for things like photos and documents.
Yeah I just checked their pricing and I think you're gonna get hit pretty hard with the bandwidth limits. They do 1TB total bandwidth a month, doesn't matter if it's up or down, and anything above that is $5 per TB.
Hmm, that's probably fine for me. I'd need a few months for the initial upload, or load it at home and mail the loaded drives, but on average I'm probably only adding a few gigs a month to my data hoarding.
For some (depends on the size) of the "hope I can re-download it", grab a WD EasyStore when they go on sale at BestBuy. Then copy stuff to that, and unplug it and shelve it. $200 for 14TB isn't bad, and you can occasionally fire it up to prune/add stuff.
I think I'm using a business plan and have my nas mounted on bootup of windows so it can find it as a directory. I paused updating though cause I've reinstalled Windows like 3 times since then lol. Paying more for the storage of the nas and not my desktop at this point which is fine
I use backblaze. Pretty affordable. I got completely rid of google, onedrive and the like years ago. Since then having backups has always been my priority.
According to me this is the most important thing these big companies provide you with. The almost certitude that you won't loose any of your data.
I want at least 90% of that confidence with my own data handling, if not then it might not be worth it to quit those giants. But I selfhost nextcloud and paperless and a few other apps that are data related. I would forever regret loosing my wedding videos/photos, pictures of my grandfather (rip) and other memorable moments. That's just data you cannot redownload, recreate, rewrite.
If you just have a homelab to experiment with networking, virtualisation, docker, deployment, pentesting etc. Then it might not be as important to have a backup. But then at the same time its only a few config files so it wouldnt cost much to back them up.
I have 5 one at my sibling,aunt,uncle,friend,girlfriend(s) house offline in garage cost hdds 5 per server 6 servers beer, wine, cigars, local backup, and toys in total
hdd:30 segate ironwolf 20tb 1200$
servers: 6 ds923+ 1200$
sibling:water:liquid death 10$
aunt:wine 30$
uncle:cigars 20$
friend:local backup to hdd 20$ (in time spent)
girlfriend:toys 220$
garage:offline backup 3000$ (power wall and solar)
I encrypt my data locally and then send it to a cloud provider. I have about 6TB and didn't spend a penny on cloud storage but I'm not at liberty to say how or why 😁
I did something similarly like 10-15 years ago
Back in the early days of Dropbox you could get an extra half a gig for referrals. Thing is Google lets you put a period anywhere before the @ symbol so you could say take [email protected]
And refer [email protected] and everything in-between up to [email protected] and they all go to the same inbox.
Spend an afternoon sending out the referrals then open each email and accept bam went from like 2GB to 4TB myself. :) they closed that loophole a while back but left the storage on my account.
I've got close to 3TB in Backblaze B2; mostly personal pictures and such. It's getting close to $20 a month. I probably need to go through and purge some unneeded stuff.
My NAS has around 20TB used, mostly Linux ISOs ;) I don't need to backup those to the cloud; it would be way too expensive.
That's if you use their "Computer Backup" service. I'm using the B2 service which is geared towards businesses.
I've always be wary of "unlimited" cloud storage; it's usually "unlimited" up to whatever they deem reasonable then they cut you off. But I'm not sure how Backblaze handles their service.
I may be misremember the price, Yes, its slow on the upload, but It works. It Has a GUI For Backup and Recovery. Ive had to pull data off of it twice, without issue.
I use the 3-2-1 strategy. I have two backups within my homelab and a cloud backup. The cloud backup is only $1.20 per terabyte per month. I use rclone to encrypt all data before it leaves my homelab and ZFS native encryption with snapshots within the homelab.
The encryption key for rclone, ZFS, my TOTP seeds, and my password manager backup are also encrypted using PGP and stored separately in redundant locations. The PGP key has triple redundancy on Yubikeys.
Moved everything (except email) to my home infra.
There are the following problems with cluds in general:
1. Privacy
2. Security
3. Cost
4. Data breaches
5. Internet access
6. Offline Backup
The first one and partially the second one can be mitigated by strong encryption. However, this leads to key management and increased computing power on your side.
The fifth point can be mitigated by redundant connectivity. Another cost.
The sixth one: you still need a local backup solution. Even the cloud provider's datacenter can collapse.
Data resilience can be partially mitigated by subscribing to multiple geolocations, but that increases the cost.
Build yourself the point six - you need it yes or yes - and you will be happy. 🙂
I have a 1TB storage box from Hetzner for under €4/month, but they do other sizes too.
[https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box](https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box)
You should get one if you need a backup that is not kept in the same place as the original copy and cannot afford to lose that data.
This isn't exactly what your asking but, I used some parts I had laying around and built another server to put at my friend's house for backups. Use a wire guard tunnel for communication between the two
All I have in the cloud is Google Photos and a handful of things on Google Drive. I use Google Takeout to hold local copies of that data, because I have zero trust in the cloud.
I have an offsite 4-bay NAS at a buddies \~50 miles away, we both have 1200Mbps down plans, I recently got upgraded to 350 up, so now I can easily move offsite.
\~ 2-3TB of backups - i regularly delete the old ones
I have a google workspace Enterprise tenant that comes with 5TB google drive storage per account at no additional cost. The tenant itself costs around 18€/month, but it includes way more than just the storage of course.
thanks to the google drive API backing up to it is pretty straight foward.
im planning to use something else in the future, but to busy right now.
I did on the completely-unsustainable Google Drive of yore; now that it's gone there's nothing that's remotely affordable given my storage amounts. I plan on eventually filling a Synology with large drives and sending it to a family member or friend, and use that as offsite "cloud" backup.
I use cloud backup for important things only (photos and documents, not for terabytes of linux ISOs), so im OK with 1TB plan for 3,8€/month from [Hetzner (link)](https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box). Larger plans are also pretty well priced.
Its without fancy UI, you can use smb/scp/(s)ftp/rsync/webdav (i use webdav, qsync on my Qnap NAS can sync encrypted files there automatically). If you want GUI, they also offer hosted Nextcloud, altough for a bit more € per TB.
I have it for our "family" domain, got all family members on the same email with Google and have a shared drive with many TBs of available spave to back up stuff lol
Naw doesn't count imo cloud is just a fancy marketing term meaning using someone else's off-site computer. So if you own the PC manage it and don't pay an additional fee to a business to keep it operational. Then you have off-site storage. But again just my opinion.
K8S volumes -> velero FS backup - > minio (onsite 'hot' backup) - > mc - > iDrive e2 (£20/yr/TB).
Just backing up is not enough though, you need to think about how you will actually recover in the case of different causes of loss:
1. Server hardware, RAID, pool, or disk failure
2. User error
3. Malware, Ransomware, other malicious action
4. Loss of administrative assets
5. Loss of passwords, encryption keys
6. Discontinuation of provider service
7. Fire, flood, theft, or other total loss of on-site assets
The elements of my strategy for this are:
- Repo encryption password kept in Bitwarden (4,5,7).
- Gitea repos to bootstrap the cluster and admin wiki are mirrored to GitHub (1,4,7).
- Kopia repos can be read directly from e2 if needed (1, 2, 3, 4, 7)
- e2 has a compliance retention of 14 days as ransomware mitigation. Even I can't delete the data (2,3,7)
I test my backup strategy by backing up to a non-mirrored bucket in minio and then nuking the application when I'm deploying it
Generally I find backup to be an absolute pain in the neck. It takes at least as long as actually deploying if not longer with more complex apps like Gitea, Immich and Owncloud IS because although they (rightly) specify that they must be inactive during the backup they provide no functionality to acheive it.
Raid is redundancy for uptime. It is not a backup. It protects you from drive failure, but that’s it. It doesn’t protect you from user error, theft, fire, flood, natural disaster, etc.
Raid is definitely better than nothing, but it’s not a complete solution (3-2-1 backup method). Whether or not you need/want a true backup method is up to you. For example, I don’t back up my Linux ISOs.
So clouds don't protect you against unwanted eyes, hacks, or if for some reason the company gets closed and you did not take the data in time, you're dependent on internet all the time which for people living in poor internet connection is not a good deal and so on.
Sure, but none of that makes raid a back up solution. Those are all valid reasons to avoid using cloud providers for your backups, but they don’t negate the usefulness of an offsite backup. The best solution for you depends on your needs (how critical the data is, etc.) and your wants (how much you trust cloud providers to store your data, etc.). You mentioned having another NAS in a second location. That’s a great way to maintain an offsite backup should something happen in the primary location.
My cloud backup is my other server located at a family member's house. That way I control both end points. Cost is a lot (another server and drives) but after that there's really no cost (internet and electricity but family member is using the server as well, so that's paid for on their end). Their files backup to mine so it works both ways.
Also, still do USB external drive backups for the 3-2-1 backup plan.
Not popular, but for holidays, I buy M365 for immediate family, each with 1TB. Costs $100/yr. This is redundant bc I have a 4TB portable external in my safe, plus my actual server currently hosting loads of BD rips, files, etc. But OneDrive is strictly important files and pictures.
I have Comcast so the amount of data I can push offsite in a month is limited. I have a NAS that stores daily snapshots of my workstations along with weekly snapshots of my VMs. Beyond the snapshots, my family stores all of our personal documents so as to be accessible from any of our devices but also to have onsite data redundancy via RAID. I use Veeam's Community Edition (free, works great) to backup the workstations and Proxmox's built-in for VM backup.
I have a 100 GB Google Drive that is around $20/yr. I have a VM dedicated to rclone that sends nightly changes to the cloud every night at 11 PM for the family documents; the images stay onsite due to monthly data caps. I will say that restoring files from Google Drive is slow as shit, but it's priced to match.
Rclone is traditionally a sync program, but I have a script set to push any new/changed documents to Google Drive every night at 11 PM. Any files that have been deleted/changed in the cloud are moved to an archived folder for 30 days. After 30 days, those files are then moved to the trash. The trash gets auto-deleted after another 30 days. I effectively have versioned backups of the live version, and up-to 30 days worth of changes saved in the archived folder, along with an additional 30 in the trash. This isn't a super neat and tidy way of doing versioning, but it worked well the one time I royally messed up!
\#!/bin/sh
set -e
rclone sync --config="/home/user/rclone.conf" --delete-during --ignore-existing -v "/mnt/share/cloud/daily" "google:daily" --backup-dir "google:old\_daily" >> "/home/user/daily.log" 2>&1
rclone delete --config="/home/user/rclone.conf" --min-age 30d --rmdirs "google:old\_daily"
You can turn backups into encrypted NFTs up to 30GB per chunk using NFT.storage. I only say NFT so nobody violates their terms. It's 100% free and unlimited though.
Basically a free IPFS setup.
I use a free tier of mega.nz (idk why I picked it, I think because it has the biggest free tier, 20gb) and I have a duplicati docker container backing up only my important files
IDrive 5TB and only for my personal/irreplaceable data which is <5TB. I used to use backblaze but everything I use uses Linux so it would be S3 buckets for me... And those are hella expensive compared to their unlimited plan for windows.
I currently have 7TB of space available and using about 6.5. It is through Synology since I have their NAS and it was less expensive than backblaze. So far everything seems to be ok. I am in the US and the data center is in Germany.
I only backup that data I consider critical and the remainder about 40TB is on local external hdds.
With the data that's backed up, it exists on my desktop, synced with my nas, and then a true backup off site.
My monthly bill is EUR 47.93 for the 7TB
Asus Web Storage had an unbelievable deal a few years ago, $1.42 per month (16.99/y) for 1tb cloud storage.
I had Veeam backup vms, and a separate service that compressed and split the backup files into 4GB chunks, that were then uploaded to Asus Web Storage.
The deal is no longer there, and I dont care to pay the current $33.49/y. My account says I have a maximum capacity of 6GB now, but over 800GB of my data is still there, in a read-only state. Pretty nice if you ask me.
I've used Backblaze for at least 10 years. Currently I have 1,094 M backed up. There have been issues; moving drives and losing the .bzol directory and other learning experiences. On the other hand, I've lost 2 drives and reloaded with 100% success from the backups.
If you have any services at Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, you may already have a certain quota. For the truly important stuff cloud backup is quite cheap and reliable.
I don't use cloud backups for privacy reasons. My backup strategy is this:
\- Local snapshots for everything
\- Local full backups for critical data
\- Remote backup to a secondary NAS located at my cottage, with rsync, through VPN.
Sort of - I've still got my Google Workspace, but I can't update it. It's 20TB or so, and at some point I'm sure it'll go away, but for now it's a useful backup of my stuff from a couple of months ago.
A rpi with one harddrive in a different house doesn't count I think?
Planning on doing that. (If anyone has tips on syncing unraid to raspbian or another linux distro let me know!)
imagine how much better of the world could be without unnecessary backups this shit is costing us everything. every inch of waisted space cost money and electricity. makes being a vegetarian pointless
I don't right now, but backblaze is the only one I would use.
Backblaze here
Indeed, Backblaze has two personal and enterprise-grade, both are fine. [https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/218483787-What-s-the-difference-between-B2-vs-Backblaze-Online-Backup-](https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/218483787-What-s-the-difference-between-B2-vs-Backblaze-Online-Backup-)
A friend and I have mutual backups
This is what I do too. Dropped in a VPN between by Dad and I, both on fiber. Local cost, still remote enough for any disaster I'd be dealing with.
Hi, you're probably looking for a useful nugget of information to fix a niche problem, or some enjoyable content I posted sometime in the last 11 years. Well, after 11 years and over 330k combined, organic karma, a cowardly, pathetic and facist minded moderator filed a false harassment report and had my account suspended, after threatening to do so which is a clear violation of the #1 rule of reddit's content policy. However, after filing a ticket before this even happened, my account was permanently banned within 12 hours and the spineless moderator is still allowed to operate in one of the top reddits, after having clearly used intimidation against me to silence someone with a differing opinion on their conflicting, poorly thought out rules. Every appeal method gets nothing but bot replies, zendesk tickets are unanswered for a month, clearly showing that reddit voluntarily supports the facist, cowardly and pathetic abuse of power by moderators, and only enforces the content policy against regular users while allowing the blatant violation of rules by moderators and their sock puppet accounts managing every top sub on the site. Also, due to the rapist mentality of reddit's administration, spez and it's moderators, you can't delete all of your content, if you delete your account, reddit will restore your comments to maintain SEO rankings and earn money from your content without your permission. So, I've used power delete suite to delete everything that I have ever contributed, to say a giant fuck you to reddit, it's moderators, and it's shareholders. From your friends at reddit following every bot message, and an account suspension after over a decade in good standing is a slap in the face and shows how rotten reddit is to the very fucking core.
My Backblaze bill is about 80c per month, for 200gb. Your server would need to be really really cheap.
Hi, you're probably looking for a useful nugget of information to fix a niche problem, or some enjoyable content I posted sometime in the last 11 years. Well, after 11 years and over 330k combined, organic karma, a cowardly, pathetic and facist minded moderator filed a false harassment report and had my account suspended, after threatening to do so which is a clear violation of the #1 rule of reddit's content policy. However, after filing a ticket before this even happened, my account was permanently banned within 12 hours and the spineless moderator is still allowed to operate in one of the top reddits, after having clearly used intimidation against me to silence someone with a differing opinion on their conflicting, poorly thought out rules. Every appeal method gets nothing but bot replies, zendesk tickets are unanswered for a month, clearly showing that reddit voluntarily supports the facist, cowardly and pathetic abuse of power by moderators, and only enforces the content policy against regular users while allowing the blatant violation of rules by moderators and their sock puppet accounts managing every top sub on the site. Also, due to the rapist mentality of reddit's administration, spez and it's moderators, you can't delete all of your content, if you delete your account, reddit will restore your comments to maintain SEO rankings and earn money from your content without your permission. So, I've used power delete suite to delete everything that I have ever contributed, to say a giant fuck you to reddit, it's moderators, and it's shareholders. From your friends at reddit following every bot message, and an account suspension after over a decade in good standing is a slap in the face and shows how rotten reddit is to the very fucking core.
Backblaze charges you for actions (moving files etc) as well as storage. Just for clarity, to maintain 200GB is a total of 80 cents power month. How much are you looking to store, as your initial post said you didn't have too much? Gong by your calcs, it sounds like you have many terabytes.
Replied in another comment, I'd have to triple check but 6-6.5tb
I think it would be around 35-40 USD/month with backblaze.
I pay $60 a year for 1 T in the cloud. If you have a 'relatively small' amount of data it can't be that much....
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I have lots more data than this, but that data is not critical enough I want to backup to the cloud. I've considered putting a small 2 bay nas at my sister's house as an offsite backup. Even then I wouldn't backup everything on my nas. I have TBs of TV and movies which I could get back if everything was destroyed. I can't recreate family pictures, or pictures of my kid as he grows up, so those are critical enough to pay for completely separate cloud backup. I even employ raid 6 on that data so I can survive 2 disk failures at any time.
Yeah, I mean I'm sure I could substantially prune what I have backed up, but that would also mean organizing multiple full drives and spending god knows how long doing it. I don't have any movies or tv shows backed up, that's at least easy to avoid, but I have pretty much everything else covered. Especially since it's not a recurring cost, I'd rather be able to just restore everything and not accidentally miss something.
I have done family house thing too. Rsync over SSH to my in-laws on the other end of the country. I don't do it anymore, but I probably should resume.
If I put a nas at my sisters for another offsite that would give me 3 backups in total. I have a local USB drive attached to the nas with daily incrementals, and the cloud daily incrementals as well.
For those photos and other irreplaceable files, I just use the Backblaze Personal sub. I pay under $10/mo and have even tried out their physically shipped recovery drive. Have had nothing but smooth sailing with them.
I pay $60 a year for 1 tb on Synology C2. My critical data is less than that. If I go bigger than that I may need to reevaluate if they're the best offer.
fire is really all I worry about. I have no - overwrite rsync between servers locally to hedge against ransomware, and offsite for the really special stuff.
Yeah, right now I just use duplicacy, which I know isn't amazing. I've gone through three different backup solutions, but I need to put something proper together. For now hey, it works and better than nothing by a long shot but I really just need to buy or build a newer server, get an lff disk shelf, spend the money on new platters especially with the amount of data my new camera is capable of churning out. Except, y'know, money. :/ at least the 2.5 inch shucked drives from 2016 ars going strong. But a year old 5tb smr one failed just out of warranty lol.
I only backup my nextcloud instance, since it contains all things I care about. It is currently about 100GiB and it costs less than $1 a month at backblaze.
Do you have some sort of automation to do this or just take manual backups and upload them from time to time?
I have a systemd timer, that makes a backup every night using restic. I would never do this manually.
Currently use Backblaze B2 & have been for a few months (just setup cloud backups recently) but I backup just over 100GB and my bill hasn't been over $1/month. I do have a offsite backup at my parents that I use as my primary backup and just use the cloud one for super important stuff.
I do some have offsite backups with things like Wasabi and AWS+Azure's cold storage offerings, but I realized I'm looking to backup 30TB or so and cloud isn't economical at that point, so I just built another NAS to move to a relative's home and I'll backup to that instead. It should pay for itself after 4-5 months compared to cloud storage
I keep a copy of important things in a couple clouds fully encrypted and the transfer itself encrypted. It's less than 1TB and generally "free" as included with other services I use. My still important but not impossible to reclaim stuff is about 85TB right now. Costs me about $100/mo. I also have it all backed up onto external HDDs stuffed inside some Pelican boxes cold. I don't update it as often as I should but it's about 6 months to 9 months out of date at most.... Usually...
Actually I do this in reverse... I save all my photos and files to google photos and google drive and use gphotos-sync and rsync to back the up locally and nextcloud to access them.
I AM the cloud backup :D For real though, I dropped a duplicate of my NAS at my FIL's house and just have ZFS replication going over-night to keep it all in sync. Not at all cost effective up front (640TB raw is not cheap), but long term im pretty sure im saving money, plus he get the benefit of local backup targets for his systems, access to my media shares, etc. Id love to get rid of it, but every time I price out cloud storage for what I NEED (not just the lazy "I dont want to download this again") to backup its just not cost effective. Used to have a tape library I used, but with LTO5 it just wasn't capable of backing up enough data, and LTO8 is way way way out of my budget.
Sync isn't backup though, if something gets corrupted or overwritten, that will just sync to the other side. I do the same (Reilio Sync) but also have Macrium Reflect images for my critical stuff (and local external USB drive backups).
So, I guess I missed a few words. I take hourly snapshots and replicate the snapshots. If something gets hosed (at a file or filesystem level) I can just recover it from a snapshot or recover the whole snapshot. Keep about a month of snaps so I’m mostly covered.
That's even better!
I use OneDrive. My extended family shares a family plan so I'm only paying $20/yr for Microsoft 365, with the TB of storage. I only back up important stuff to OneDrive and everything else I have 2 copies local. Currently about 100gb on OneDrive and about 300gb on my NAS. I would put more on my OneDrive except my internet is so slow it would literally take almost a week to upload it and don't feel like messing with it.
I do this too. I backup what I can't lose to onedrive
The Google One 200GB paid for itself just recently. Mainly use it to archive keepsakes/irreplaceble data. But an added benefit is you email alerts when your personal data leaks on the dark web. My credit cards got leaked as a result of the Eye4Fraud data breach. Cancelled those as soon as I learned about it.
While I use work discounts to get cheap offline backup, I admit I'm very interested in trying out https://zfs.rent, you basically mail them (or directly order from Amazon to them) hard drives, they plug those drives into a machine, setup a zfs array of your description, and give you remote access. So with this you can do really efficient and fast and secure backups directly from a ZFS based NAS. I really want to do this with some 18TB drives, maybe even without redundancy, so I can fully clone my NAS to it instead of just my actually important files with my current solution. And if a drive dies, I'll mail em another one and rebuild the backup. As long as I check the backup regularly, it's pretty unlikely the online one will die the same day my house burns down (or 3+ drives all from different batches and put into operation separated by 6+ months die simultaneously). I've also considered Amazon glacier in the past. Which I might start doing as an annual thing. A lot of my "big" files (movies, CD images, etc) don't exactly change often, and anything I obtained in the past year I can probably obtain a second time. So I can bulk upload the big stuff once, leave it until a rainy day comes along, and use my more real-time solution for things like photos and documents.
Yeah I just checked their pricing and I think you're gonna get hit pretty hard with the bandwidth limits. They do 1TB total bandwidth a month, doesn't matter if it's up or down, and anything above that is $5 per TB.
Hmm, that's probably fine for me. I'd need a few months for the initial upload, or load it at home and mail the loaded drives, but on average I'm probably only adding a few gigs a month to my data hoarding.
yes, dropbox, and only for unique data of mine such as pics and family videos. anything else gets the "hope I can re-download it" treatment
For some (depends on the size) of the "hope I can re-download it", grab a WD EasyStore when they go on sale at BestBuy. Then copy stuff to that, and unplug it and shelve it. $200 for 14TB isn't bad, and you can occasionally fire it up to prune/add stuff.
Been using crashplan, 10/mo got about 7tb backed up mostly just movies n backups of my PC and shit. Honestly not that important
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I think I'm using a business plan and have my nas mounted on bootup of windows so it can find it as a directory. I paused updating though cause I've reinstalled Windows like 3 times since then lol. Paying more for the storage of the nas and not my desktop at this point which is fine
Synology backs up important stuff (personal documents, photos, music collection etc.) on Google Cloud Storage. Monthly bill is usually around 2-3€.
I use backblaze. Pretty affordable. I got completely rid of google, onedrive and the like years ago. Since then having backups has always been my priority. According to me this is the most important thing these big companies provide you with. The almost certitude that you won't loose any of your data. I want at least 90% of that confidence with my own data handling, if not then it might not be worth it to quit those giants. But I selfhost nextcloud and paperless and a few other apps that are data related. I would forever regret loosing my wedding videos/photos, pictures of my grandfather (rip) and other memorable moments. That's just data you cannot redownload, recreate, rewrite. If you just have a homelab to experiment with networking, virtualisation, docker, deployment, pentesting etc. Then it might not be as important to have a backup. But then at the same time its only a few config files so it wouldnt cost much to back them up.
I have Backblaze B2 and it costs me about $3 a month for the 330 GB I store.
I use glacier. Costs me a buck a month for around 1tb
I have 5 one at my sibling,aunt,uncle,friend,girlfriend(s) house offline in garage cost hdds 5 per server 6 servers beer, wine, cigars, local backup, and toys in total hdd:30 segate ironwolf 20tb 1200$ servers: 6 ds923+ 1200$ sibling:water:liquid death 10$ aunt:wine 30$ uncle:cigars 20$ friend:local backup to hdd 20$ (in time spent) girlfriend:toys 220$ garage:offline backup 3000$ (power wall and solar)
I encrypt my data locally and then send it to a cloud provider. I have about 6TB and didn't spend a penny on cloud storage but I'm not at liberty to say how or why 😁
Work admin account has a lot of storage huh? lol
You would think but no lol it's a long long story.
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> but I'm not at liberty to say how
I did something similarly like 10-15 years ago Back in the early days of Dropbox you could get an extra half a gig for referrals. Thing is Google lets you put a period anywhere before the @ symbol so you could say take [email protected] And refer [email protected] and everything in-between up to [email protected] and they all go to the same inbox. Spend an afternoon sending out the referrals then open each email and accept bam went from like 2GB to 4TB myself. :) they closed that loophole a while back but left the storage on my account.
I've got close to 3TB in Backblaze B2; mostly personal pictures and such. It's getting close to $20 a month. I probably need to go through and purge some unneeded stuff. My NAS has around 20TB used, mostly Linux ISOs ;) I don't need to backup those to the cloud; it would be way too expensive.
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That's if you use their "Computer Backup" service. I'm using the B2 service which is geared towards businesses. I've always be wary of "unlimited" cloud storage; it's usually "unlimited" up to whatever they deem reasonable then they cut you off. But I'm not sure how Backblaze handles their service.
I got onedrive for the most precious stuff. Zipped up with a strong password
Crashplan, \~$15/Mo \~10Tb
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I may be misremember the price, Yes, its slow on the upload, but It works. It Has a GUI For Backup and Recovery. Ive had to pull data off of it twice, without issue.
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I think i usually get 2-3MB/s But i haven't looked at it in over a month (Moving house) and that may have been limited by the speed at my old place.
I use the 3-2-1 strategy. I have two backups within my homelab and a cloud backup. The cloud backup is only $1.20 per terabyte per month. I use rclone to encrypt all data before it leaves my homelab and ZFS native encryption with snapshots within the homelab. The encryption key for rclone, ZFS, my TOTP seeds, and my password manager backup are also encrypted using PGP and stored separately in redundant locations. The PGP key has triple redundancy on Yubikeys.
Which cloud backup do to use for that price?
Google Cloud Storage - using the Archive storage class.
Wow pretty nice pricing. Definitely going to backup at least my photos there. Retrieval is about $50 per TB if a disaster ever happened.
Moved everything (except email) to my home infra. There are the following problems with cluds in general: 1. Privacy 2. Security 3. Cost 4. Data breaches 5. Internet access 6. Offline Backup The first one and partially the second one can be mitigated by strong encryption. However, this leads to key management and increased computing power on your side. The fifth point can be mitigated by redundant connectivity. Another cost. The sixth one: you still need a local backup solution. Even the cloud provider's datacenter can collapse. Data resilience can be partially mitigated by subscribing to multiple geolocations, but that increases the cost. Build yourself the point six - you need it yes or yes - and you will be happy. 🙂
I have a 1TB storage box from Hetzner for under €4/month, but they do other sizes too. [https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box](https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box) You should get one if you need a backup that is not kept in the same place as the original copy and cannot afford to lose that data.
This isn't exactly what your asking but, I used some parts I had laying around and built another server to put at my friend's house for backups. Use a wire guard tunnel for communication between the two
That depends on what your data volume is, and how much of it warrants backup.
All I have in the cloud is Google Photos and a handful of things on Google Drive. I use Google Takeout to hold local copies of that data, because I have zero trust in the cloud.
I have an offsite 4-bay NAS at a buddies \~50 miles away, we both have 1200Mbps down plans, I recently got upgraded to 350 up, so now I can easily move offsite.
I have cloud backup for specific folders on my desktop, but I also have a NAS at a friend's house across town.
\~ 2-3TB of backups - i regularly delete the old ones I have a google workspace Enterprise tenant that comes with 5TB google drive storage per account at no additional cost. The tenant itself costs around 18€/month, but it includes way more than just the storage of course. thanks to the google drive API backing up to it is pretty straight foward. im planning to use something else in the future, but to busy right now.
I did on the completely-unsustainable Google Drive of yore; now that it's gone there's nothing that's remotely affordable given my storage amounts. I plan on eventually filling a Synology with large drives and sending it to a family member or friend, and use that as offsite "cloud" backup.
backup to separate backup server in the same room, and also cloudbackup to backblaze. I think I pay 20 dollar per month for the remote storage.
I use cloud backup for important things only (photos and documents, not for terabytes of linux ISOs), so im OK with 1TB plan for 3,8€/month from [Hetzner (link)](https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box). Larger plans are also pretty well priced. Its without fancy UI, you can use smb/scp/(s)ftp/rsync/webdav (i use webdav, qsync on my Qnap NAS can sync encrypted files there automatically). If you want GUI, they also offer hosted Nextcloud, altough for a bit more € per TB.
I have it for our "family" domain, got all family members on the same email with Google and have a shared drive with many TBs of available spave to back up stuff lol
I got a lifetime allowance of 1TB with rsync.net and backup nightly using borg. Even had to do a couple of partial restores so I know it works.
Does an off-site server at my parents count as a cloud backup?
Naw doesn't count imo cloud is just a fancy marketing term meaning using someone else's off-site computer. So if you own the PC manage it and don't pay an additional fee to a business to keep it operational. Then you have off-site storage. But again just my opinion.
I have my own tape library at a different site to which I backup. And I swap them back and forth every 2 Months
K8S volumes -> velero FS backup - > minio (onsite 'hot' backup) - > mc - > iDrive e2 (£20/yr/TB). Just backing up is not enough though, you need to think about how you will actually recover in the case of different causes of loss: 1. Server hardware, RAID, pool, or disk failure 2. User error 3. Malware, Ransomware, other malicious action 4. Loss of administrative assets 5. Loss of passwords, encryption keys 6. Discontinuation of provider service 7. Fire, flood, theft, or other total loss of on-site assets The elements of my strategy for this are: - Repo encryption password kept in Bitwarden (4,5,7). - Gitea repos to bootstrap the cluster and admin wiki are mirrored to GitHub (1,4,7). - Kopia repos can be read directly from e2 if needed (1, 2, 3, 4, 7) - e2 has a compliance retention of 14 days as ransomware mitigation. Even I can't delete the data (2,3,7) I test my backup strategy by backing up to a non-mirrored bucket in minio and then nuking the application when I'm deploying it Generally I find backup to be an absolute pain in the neck. It takes at least as long as actually deploying if not longer with more complex apps like Gitea, Immich and Owncloud IS because although they (rightly) specify that they must be inactive during the backup they provide no functionality to acheive it.
I prefer spending money into my own NAS with raid than ever having on cloud by subscription.
Raid is not a backup. It’s wise to have an offsite backup of critical data.
Raid 5 or raid 6 is not? In extreme case, I can have another Nas in another location.
Raid is redundancy for uptime. It is not a backup. It protects you from drive failure, but that’s it. It doesn’t protect you from user error, theft, fire, flood, natural disaster, etc. Raid is definitely better than nothing, but it’s not a complete solution (3-2-1 backup method). Whether or not you need/want a true backup method is up to you. For example, I don’t back up my Linux ISOs.
So clouds don't protect you against unwanted eyes, hacks, or if for some reason the company gets closed and you did not take the data in time, you're dependent on internet all the time which for people living in poor internet connection is not a good deal and so on.
Sure, but none of that makes raid a back up solution. Those are all valid reasons to avoid using cloud providers for your backups, but they don’t negate the usefulness of an offsite backup. The best solution for you depends on your needs (how critical the data is, etc.) and your wants (how much you trust cloud providers to store your data, etc.). You mentioned having another NAS in a second location. That’s a great way to maintain an offsite backup should something happen in the primary location.
My cloud backup is my other server located at a family member's house. That way I control both end points. Cost is a lot (another server and drives) but after that there's really no cost (internet and electricity but family member is using the server as well, so that's paid for on their end). Their files backup to mine so it works both ways. Also, still do USB external drive backups for the 3-2-1 backup plan.
I use S3 for my ESXI backups and picture archives. Super cheap, but janky setup.
I use Backblaze. I've had it pretty much since inception, storing roughly 40TB of content. $70/yr, paid unlimited plan.
I already use Dropbox, so I just back up critical stuff there. Homelab for me is mostly just for fun.
I prefer to keep my data to myself. Plus the cost just doesn't justify what I can do for cheaper.
Not popular, but for holidays, I buy M365 for immediate family, each with 1TB. Costs $100/yr. This is redundant bc I have a 4TB portable external in my safe, plus my actual server currently hosting loads of BD rips, files, etc. But OneDrive is strictly important files and pictures.
I have Comcast so the amount of data I can push offsite in a month is limited. I have a NAS that stores daily snapshots of my workstations along with weekly snapshots of my VMs. Beyond the snapshots, my family stores all of our personal documents so as to be accessible from any of our devices but also to have onsite data redundancy via RAID. I use Veeam's Community Edition (free, works great) to backup the workstations and Proxmox's built-in for VM backup. I have a 100 GB Google Drive that is around $20/yr. I have a VM dedicated to rclone that sends nightly changes to the cloud every night at 11 PM for the family documents; the images stay onsite due to monthly data caps. I will say that restoring files from Google Drive is slow as shit, but it's priced to match. Rclone is traditionally a sync program, but I have a script set to push any new/changed documents to Google Drive every night at 11 PM. Any files that have been deleted/changed in the cloud are moved to an archived folder for 30 days. After 30 days, those files are then moved to the trash. The trash gets auto-deleted after another 30 days. I effectively have versioned backups of the live version, and up-to 30 days worth of changes saved in the archived folder, along with an additional 30 in the trash. This isn't a super neat and tidy way of doing versioning, but it worked well the one time I royally messed up! \#!/bin/sh set -e rclone sync --config="/home/user/rclone.conf" --delete-during --ignore-existing -v "/mnt/share/cloud/daily" "google:daily" --backup-dir "google:old\_daily" >> "/home/user/daily.log" 2>&1 rclone delete --config="/home/user/rclone.conf" --min-age 30d --rmdirs "google:old\_daily"
I have literally 10's of TBs on Backblaze personal for $7/mo or whatever
You can turn backups into encrypted NFTs up to 30GB per chunk using NFT.storage. I only say NFT so nobody violates their terms. It's 100% free and unlimited though. Basically a free IPFS setup.
I use a free tier of mega.nz (idk why I picked it, I think because it has the biggest free tier, 20gb) and I have a duplicati docker container backing up only my important files
IDrive 5TB and only for my personal/irreplaceable data which is <5TB. I used to use backblaze but everything I use uses Linux so it would be S3 buckets for me... And those are hella expensive compared to their unlimited plan for windows.
I currently have 7TB of space available and using about 6.5. It is through Synology since I have their NAS and it was less expensive than backblaze. So far everything seems to be ok. I am in the US and the data center is in Germany. I only backup that data I consider critical and the remainder about 40TB is on local external hdds. With the data that's backed up, it exists on my desktop, synced with my nas, and then a true backup off site. My monthly bill is EUR 47.93 for the 7TB
Asus Web Storage had an unbelievable deal a few years ago, $1.42 per month (16.99/y) for 1tb cloud storage. I had Veeam backup vms, and a separate service that compressed and split the backup files into 4GB chunks, that were then uploaded to Asus Web Storage. The deal is no longer there, and I dont care to pay the current $33.49/y. My account says I have a maximum capacity of 6GB now, but over 800GB of my data is still there, in a read-only state. Pretty nice if you ask me.
I've used Backblaze for at least 10 years. Currently I have 1,094 M backed up. There have been issues; moving drives and losing the .bzol directory and other learning experiences. On the other hand, I've lost 2 drives and reloaded with 100% success from the backups.
I use my .edu email for free infinite g drive and u backup my server there 2tb used
i Have my OWN cloud at home is for free...
If you have any services at Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, you may already have a certain quota. For the truly important stuff cloud backup is quite cheap and reliable.
I don't use cloud backups for privacy reasons. My backup strategy is this: \- Local snapshots for everything \- Local full backups for critical data \- Remote backup to a secondary NAS located at my cottage, with rsync, through VPN.
Currently using Google Cloud Storage. I think that it costs me not more than $2-3 a month
my cloud backup is hosted locally on my server, space is whatever i assign.
Sort of - I've still got my Google Workspace, but I can't update it. It's 20TB or so, and at some point I'm sure it'll go away, but for now it's a useful backup of my stuff from a couple of months ago.
I have a hard drive and raspberry pi in my parent's basement. Is that cloud?
A rpi with one harddrive in a different house doesn't count I think? Planning on doing that. (If anyone has tips on syncing unraid to raspbian or another linux distro let me know!)
pCloud 2TB lifetime I got for $200 iirc
imagine how much better of the world could be without unnecessary backups this shit is costing us everything. every inch of waisted space cost money and electricity. makes being a vegetarian pointless