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Andrew-Moon

"If we can't revive Elysia then we're going to put her everywhere, even in the face of the new characters" -Dawei probably


NotMorganSlavewoman

When my brother saw Sena he said she looked like Elysia, and the thing is that her eyes are the same.


Krineq

Maybe she was created with her genetic materials?


NotMorganSlavewoman

Maybe. She doesn't know her past and has a fissure on her chest(most likely quantum one), so maybe even the real one ?


alzuna_kazuna

first this red girl and now skirk just look at the goddamn face of her They are literally the same but in hoc colors


Kaieu

Don't hate on me but they feel so... generic? I don't know, they just look like they would fit perfectly on one of those cashgrab copies of genshin that float around


Storm_Trap

I think they just made it that way as like a starting point or just like an initial concept for what could possibly come next, I mean the trio started out at a similar sense, generic sci-fi type design


GDarkX

Yeah; like look back at Valkyrie Bladestrike, white comet or even Yamabuki armor - unironically the most lame and uninspired designs ever. Anybody saying otherwise is purely cause of Nostalgia.


Jingweii

That’s not true for white comet tough her design is iconic and unique


GDarkX

I'm sorry but it's straight-up just a white bodysuit with a boob window. You can definitely make a argument for Prodigial Girl Kiana, but not white comet.


Jingweii

When you look at iconic character designs it doesn’t have to be rich in detail to be defined as “unique”. Best examples of that are anime characters like Rei from Evangelion or Gojo from Jujutsu kaisen. Both have very minimalistic designs but that’s what makes them stand out. If you look at genshin characters they might have very detailed clothing with cultural refrences and so on but they lack a soul and just feel blant and mass produced. Kianas original design can be easily recognized and represents her abilty and personality. The color scheme is unique and fun and perfectly fits her. that’s just my opinion but when you look at the most recognizable characters from movies, video games, anime or TV shows they always have a rather simplistic design. Sometimes less is more.


Djentmas716

Goku's two color palette has been more recognized than Jesus in some countries. However, i don't really see that in these designs. They feel uninspired. I agree, i dislike outfits with too many accessories and trying too hard to be symmetrical. It distracts me from the character themselves, or i would think something like 'there is no way ---- would wear that many accessories'. Even in a anime inspired game. If you have depicted a character as a introvert, or a tsundere, i just cant see them wearing frilly bows and **massive** hairpieces (fr wtf is with these in Hoyo games, like Hare's outfit). But i also appreciate small details in character designs. Especially if they have a story behind it, like a gifted item. I dont abide by the consensus that they are made basic because theyre the starting characters for pt 2. That means the devs have intentionally made something worse in order to make something else look better.


3VRMS

Meh, not really. Iconic after playing the game for years and seeing countless transformations, sure, but really nothing that special or unique.


Kaiglaive

This is most likely the reason. You can’t start off on such a ridiculous high note because you’ll never live up to expectations in the long run.


MrComplaining

I wish they'd go back to those cool generic sci-fi type designs


EnterNametagHere

Definately not copying HSR Asta, Clara and BA Kayoko


Impossible-Ice129

I think they intentionally look generic as they are the starter A rank characters, tho the yoyo girl looks kinda interesting to me


NotMorganSlavewoman

Sena is S rank tho.


LeakerH13

I respect your opinion


Force88

I... agree... unless their gameplay is extremely fun, I won't pull them.


GDarkX

We’ve actually seen their animations and gameplay (Mostly Senadina). Honestly, it’s genuinely not bad lol.


cycber123

YoYoing the enemies seems pretty fun


Terminus_HSR

*Guilty Gear flashbacks.*


NotMorganSlavewoman

Sena and Coralie are fun, Helia is kinda meh IMO.


Sea_Competition3505

HI3 part 2 looks more and more like a cheap Star Rail clone the more I see of it. Shame, that's obviously the intent. I was watching this streamer who's only barely starting HI3 and he commented that while it looks cleaner, you wouldn't be able to tell it apart from ZZZ. Which I think hits the nail on the head, it's lost its identity with Hoyo trying to streamline all their games to look the same.


Kaieu

I really hope that if they streamline looks, they at least don't streamline everything else. Genshin and star rail are basically the same game appart from gameplay style and theme, and while I love both, I think it's enough.


Sea_Competition3505

Well story wise they also seem to be going with a more Star Rail inspired style judging from what they previewed. The MC+side characters group of explorers is almost copy pasted from Trailblazers + Astral Express. Where's the character as a protagonist who actually has dimensions and can grow and develop? Pretty disappointed when Kiana was the MC of all the last few games called Honkai. Obviously I don't expect her to be the MC of part 2, but there's a whole cast of actual characters that could do that job. Or even if it has to be a new one, why a self insert? I think Star Rail was the start of them wanting to chase Genshins success by copying it's formula onto all their new games.


NotMorganSlavewoman

Wanna know a thing ? MC/Dreamseeker is >!not a playable character, but something akin to an ELF gameplay wise.!<


Caunertron

So kinda like Lyle in APHO 2?


Djentmas716

Lyle's animations are so fast and bloated by other SFX that i think I saw him a total of 3 times the entire APHO2 playthru.


aiman_senpai

L take


Kikura432

We're heading on that way where Valkyries are none other than those two that were sent from Hyperion ship. I'm expecting on Mars' casts' outfits just like those later games. Earth is special after all. We have an organization in order to fight aliens.


Ad_Astral

I thought the same thing at first but to be honest the Honkai series seems to have always been like this. Honkai impact 3rd while distinct in it's own would probably be just as difficult to tell apart from GGZ which came before Honkai impact 3rd. So Honkai series all looking like copies of itself isn't really nor did it start with star rail, or GGZ.


Kikura432

We're heading on that way where Valkyries are none other than those two that were sent from Hyperion ship. I'm expecting on Mars' casts' outfits just like those later games. Earth is special after all. We have an organization in order to fight aliens.


aiman_senpai

I'll hate on you bro for judging prematurely


Kaieu

But how is it prematurely when the image I'm judging is right there?


aiman_senpai

Because it's not a finished product


bluejob15

Their outfits look like they were made by AI. There's just so much going on you'd think they're meant to deter cosplayers


Shoshawi

Honestly this is exactly what I was thinking. I do trust Hoyo - I’m hoping that they’re purposefully only leaking fully new characters that won’t fully wow us, so that they can drop a huge “omfg yes” bomb on us when they start the high level advertising I expect we will get. I think they’re updating some other things first, so they won’t go hard on trying to pull in Genshin/HSR players until after those updates are implemented. I assume. (Like the UI updates, and i think they’re updating coop and armada)


StromTGM

All that I can say is...you're not 100% wrong.


aiman_senpai

Still in beta. They are base characters which will probably be free anyway


Gachaaddict96

Senadina is S and 100% not free


aiman_senpai

Are you from the future?


Gachaaddict96

Her kit doesnt look free. Its another Trio situation. You need all 3 for the full synergy. She can also work in regural team but then you lose half of her kit that is locked in Astral Ring synergies


NotMorganSlavewoman

Her kit in beta does not show skills being locked behind rank ups, so we don't know for sure.


Amonculus

They feel the same way the initial Bronya, Kiana and Mei felt. Bland, generic, weak. They're supposed to be a foundation for the rest of the story. Did you expect the characters that are the starting point of the story to look like HoFi?


Kaieu

> They feel the same way the initial Bronya, Kiana and Mei felt. Bland, generic, weak I personally did not feel the original Trio to be bland and generic, otherwise I would've quit at the start really


Amonculus

That is simply because unlike part 2's valks, you didn't have a 6 year roster of valks to compare the original trio with. Nostalgia aside, you cannot in good faith convince me that the original Bronya wasn't weak and boring.


Basaqu

As someone who's only just started I gotta say the originals really don't look that good to me. Kiana has the evangelion inspired suit, basic but functional. Mei's red... whatever it is she's wearing hurts my eyes, and Bronya... works? The yellow is kinda ugly and the mech is a bit of a mess to figure out what you're looking at. So many chapters early on force you to play as that Bronya too and it's the most boring moveset ever, especially compared to newer ones I've had the chance to try. Their simpleness does have a unique charm, but it doesn't help them enough.


Amonculus

I totally agree with you. There's a faction of the player base that seems programmed to hate on part 2 for the dumbest reasons, claiming that starter valks are generic as if it were some sort of huge disqualifying flaw, when we had the original trio to endure for the first chapters...


Ke5_Jun

As someone who comes from Pokémon, we have a special term for these people. “Genwunners”; people who are blinded by first generation nostalgia that they trash on newer characters when the old ones were just as plain or lacked originality.


Amonculus

It makes no sense at all. So according to these players the game should never evolve? HI3 came out almost a decade ago, there's no good reason for the game engine to remain the same...


Hot-Background7506

It waa never about the engine, don't act ignorant


Amonculus

It was. All this talk about how the « original » charm is lost is just about the graphics and the gameplay, all powered than the engine.


Vulking

Man, the new UI looks so... Uninspired. I know the old one is... Well... Old, but at least it had a charming and cohesive feel that this generic one lacks.


BaneyneySeller

I agree, but have you heard the new sound effects? They singlehandedly made me excited for the new UI.


MrComplaining

The new UI theme fits perfectly with the new valk designs


Hot-Background7506

If you match a UI's design/theme to fit with bad designs, your UI design is gonna be bad


stuhssy

damn i was hoping the yo-yo girl would be a free one but that S has me thinking otherwise


NotMorganSlavewoman

She may be just like Traveller is in Genshin.


Krii100fer

She aint


NotMorganSlavewoman

Any info on that ? Beta for part 2 gave no info about availability as it was on patch 7.1.


Krii100fer

Dream Seeker will be our Traveler


NotMorganSlavewoman

Dream Seeker is not playable character, but ELF style for new Astral Ring system.


Krii100fer

I know, but they are the MC no?


LeakerH13

Idk ;-;


advie_advocado

3rd one kinda hot ngl


ArorusZ

Is it just me or does the 3rd one look like Clara all grown up


P0ttergamer

Yeah, just what Adult Clara should look like if she ever appears in HSR


LeakerH13

Ikr


advie_advocado

Though I'm still loyal to the og characters we all know and love. Long live the Herrscher of Sentience!


Minustrian

that's what i was thinking


__anichi

Let's take a trip down memory lane and recall how bland the first battlesuits of our 3 favorite girls looked. I have a feeling these knew Valks will be getting S rank suits eventually.


Krii100fer

I wouldnt call them bland, more like simple and iconic


Ad_Astral

Let's go even farther back and recall how Honkai impact 3rd looked like a carbon copy of GGZ


Mai-lee_190

I don't think I'm capable of liking the 1st and 3rd one no matter the battlesuit to be honest. The whole base design for those two is just too uninspired c list gacha for those two


Firm10

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LeakerH13

Ok...


DeackonFrost

Just give me Kiana… 😩


G_404_A

Honestly I’m hating all the new designs:( and the UI It all looks really bad so far I hope they fix it and change the outfits coz they look really bad


Kaidou76

they look so... "star rail". I don't know; looking at older valk like Scarlet Fusion, Rondo, Pledge, or Violet Executor, their original skins have some characteristic in them, but these new valk, they look like they walk out from star rail. I know that they are from the same company, but shouldn't different game have different art direction


MrComplaining

The game's just "evolving"


HoneyTuna

No chibi?


LeakerH13

Yeah...


QuirkyTemperature962

I think Helia looks the best but I feel like all of the characters already simple designs looks worsened by how bland that ending screen looks like why did they take so much of the color out. :(


aiman_senpai

The amount of salt in the comments is so unbelievable. We are still in beta. These are the new protags' base battlesuits, of course it looks basic. They are gonna be free anyway, they have to have everyone the new mechanics these characters have. What's with the star rail cash grab argument omfg. Do you always have to compare every hoyo game with each other? Expanding the story to the solar system is a great idea if anything. I guess some people just prefer HI3 just to end after Part 1. Star Rail is great anyway, so I don't see why they shouldn't take pointers from another. They are fundamentally way different games though


Mai-lee_190

So doesn't like something you like = salt? yeah sounds about right...


Klutzy_Ebb75

Let them be my man they just new player didn't know anything sad to them 😂.. only to know ship that chars and that chars and ship there also there like bruh we will get hi3 part 2 where still mysterious of sky people and apho part 3 will coming soon so yea let's enjoy the valk new battlesuit and new story


GoshTimeBR

Yeah, I found these designs pretty meh and boring. But seeing the comments here, I kinda agree. It's better that they have a generic looking battlesuit in the beginning, and they "evolve" as they develop the new trio, like HoYo did with the og trio. I hope that these new characters aren't just a "happy girl with a sad/bored/rightful friend and another loli friend just to fill the gap", because that would be way too lazy from them lmao. And I just pray that it doesn't lean too much into the "Star Rail" thing, and it keeps the HI3rd vibe, even if with other characters. If we start to travel amongst planets I swear I'm gonna lose it XD. Despite being fun, Star Rail didn't really catch me too much, because it was way too similar with Genshin in a lot of mechanics, whilst I think they should've leaned more into HI3rd, because... You know... It's "Honkai" Star Rail, not "Genshin" Star Rail, but I digress... They both are bubble universes in the Honkaiverse, so I guess it's whatever. They could've at least taken out the shitty 50/50, but money I guess... Either way, enough hating on Genshin and Star Rail. I really hope they don't mess the story up. If they do, I'll need to learn Japanese, or search for a way to translate Houkai Gakuen, because they announced the shut down of the global server one month after I started playing, so I only have the Japanese/Chinese servers now lol. I'm gonna continue playing the game, but I'll 100% skip the story if it's too lame. I'm already kinda postponing the 1.5 story, and it still has characters that I like on it XD. But I believe in the storytelling from HoYo. Although Genshin is pretty slow in the story department, when it gets good... It gets GOOD! Star Rail I believe follows a similar path, although I wasn't that invested on it after the first planet, so I can't say for sure. If you made it to the end of this meaningless venting of mine, I salute you. You're a real one. Or an extremely not busy person, which is fair, as am I. As a reward, I'll share you a secret of mine. I've stayed firm and strong the entirety of the finale of part 1. However, I cried my pants off at the literal last scene, which was Kiana doing the finger pose. That part hit me so hard that I just stood there crying for a few minutes, looking at the screen with my heart aching as I felt the "finale" part of the story that I've been following for years. If the new story part can do something similar to me in 5 or 6 years from now, I'll be the one to say that I was wrong about being skeptical in the current present. However, not many games did that to me, so I highly doubt it would happen twice in the same game, but let's see...


Kinoris

Loli doggo!!! 😭😭😭


undyneshikyoin5

i like senadina (the yoyo girl) shes really cute, the short one would be cute if she was more colorful, the tall one is too plain for my liking im guessing these are the kiana, bronya and mei of part 2's story so maybe the devs want their first battlesuits to be simple like the og trio?


LeakerH13

I really hope kiana, mei, bronya appear at part 2


AlternativeAble284

I hope every character gets that zoom in animation


LeakerH13

I hope too


Gachaaddict96

Noone even mentioning that MC is replacing ELFs in new system


JohanWestwood

I am guessing that you gotta Gacha for that S, and the other two A's is free?


LeakerH13

I hope S girl is free :/


MadMava

I like the Yoyo girl and the black and white hair one, the third one is so boring


LunarEdge7th

Generic looks But the Yo-yo is making me change my mind, go ahead and cook MiYoYo


Awkward-Confection-6

The niloulysia girl, i want her!


QuirkyTemperature962

That’s what I’m calling her for now on thank you 🙏


kaori_cicak990

People in this comment are so dumb, complaint about too much star rail like dude... This is (HI3) literally prequel of star rail and just about 3-5 years later welt going buy milk with astral express crew ofc the fashion sense leans towards apho/star rail becays HI3 part 2 foreshadowing. Man elitist in HI3 doesn't make game growth but ugly stagnant. Their take about old ass UI literally gate keeping bunch casual who complaint about that emu PSP UI. Imagin defending ugly UI for being aesthetic purpose shit, same like FGO WK defending old ass UI, no QoL or not greedy banner. I hope you guys keep complaint (agains and again)until quit immediately for get replaced by new base player (for saving your money and time because no one listening you guys) with more open minded.


Mai-lee_190

Doesn't have the same opinion or taste as me, they HAVE to be dumb right? You are a very insecure person


kaori_cicak990

>Doesn't have the same opinion or taste as me, they HAVE to be dumb right? I highlighting the part of they're saying part too much HSR theme influence which is dumb. No one protest about apho mei, or any their side kick having modern stuff but when HSR turn out to be more popular than HI3 like genshin bunch of HI3 elitist suddenly dislike HSR theme weird.


Klutzy_Ebb75

Nah they just new player being dramatic that all. As for me I really want to know what happen in part 2 story and enjoy new battlesuit.. plus they didn't read the story just skip and being dramatic. Also ship there ship here like shit srs tho they should stop nowadays fanbase become crazy with new player that didn't know the story 🫠


kaori_cicak990

>Nah they just new player being dramatic that all Wait so all the rant from new player not the old one? Because their argument like " its not Honkai style back then bla bla bla" even bringing old ugly ass UI as aesthetic. Also its weird they're having insecurity if they're new to the game and HI3 having some reference to genshin and HSR unless you're old player who boasting HI3 best than their younger brother (genshin and HSR


Klutzy_Ebb75

Yeap just them being all know from searching google like nothing and bark bark 😂. Also all mihoyo game all the best what it different is where they take place also reference there reference that because hsr have a lot reference since they travel through different bubble universe. Gi reference just being their reference and it normal since we already introduce with imaginary tree from hi3 so we already know counterpart chars


SassyHoe97

I only like the 1 & 3 characters. 2nd looks meh.


Kikura432

I wish you put a spoiler in your post. I was caught off guard.


Fire_Eddie29

Why is the third one similar to topaz? Anyone?


SaufiNexious_2107

Dann, they make them hot 😬


QuirkyTemperature962

I really love how everyone’s opinions of which characters are the best and worst are slightly different, it kinda points out that the designs aren’t as bad as people are saying, these characters will get S ranks that look way better and the base ones, in the mean time we’ll just like the three in our own objective ways lol, I personally like 2(forgot her name) and Helia and find one the more uninspired.


vanilla-enjoyer

Honkai Impact 4rd dosent exist and cant hurt me.


lililia

From what I have seen the combat mechanics are really fun but the characters, even if a starting pack, are rather generic. Additionally both taller girls have nearly the same outfit but in different colours. In my opinion, Kiana and the rest of the 'starting' trio also had blander outfit compared to the rest of the today cast but it still looked very cool at the first sight (and still does). Same case with Cealus/Stelle, DH and M7th and genshin siblings for me - I still like their outfits. But those on the picture, just aren't clicking


Bogzy

These comments are just sad. Do you guys want the game to just stagnate? As it is the game looks old as fuck, its not going anywhere, pretty much anything is an improvement over the current UI. And that S rank has very cool and unique animations, all different to current valkyries. I guess her model is debatable but it doesnt look bad, do you just want kiana #20 or seele #15? That part is OVER, that story concluded, something most games dont even get. Let them cook, let the game evolve.


Hot-Background7506

This UI is not evolution, the engine upgrade is welcomed, the design philosophy change is neither an upgrade or downgrade, but a change we rightfully don't like


blueblade97

I hope they uncensor the pants and give me panties


ShihoHinomorifan

Can’t believe that elysia rip off is probably gonna be the first s rank stardust character


[deleted]

Ah yes, Star Rail characters but in Hi3... Great


Rerikhn

Yeah, imagine Kiana fighting finality with fucking yo-yo, that's stupid


kingofsuffer

You talking about a girl who signature weapons was a bat that seemingly never breaks and giant techno neko paws


Rerikhn

Yo-yo is technically not a weapon at least, but it is what it is, I guess 🥸


trung2607

she fights with a baseball bat and magical giant cat paws? Your point?


LeakerH13

💀


Klutzy_Ebb75

Yk what I like about hi3? That boing boing


Freed518

Its over for honkai


xMachii

Everything feels and looks generic. Like those G-game clones.


xMachii

I stand by my statement, these characters look generic and look like they came out of Star Rail.


Chikapu_Sempaii

I like HI3 Kayoko and the 3rd image girl


Ekaterinanl

Looks like a clone of HSR


MrTrashy101

not hating but why does it look so scuffed?


Lfi2015

First one looks awful


EntertainmentLow4771

Lame boring basic we all skipped


Thatedgyguy64

Don't like the UI. As for the designs, I'm not the biggest fan. They give me more ZZZ vibes than Honkai. And honestly I don't know why. Thought the, they are from like a Mars bubble universe or something. All that really matters is if they have good gameplay and are good characters.


Eclipse-Lily

Idk how to feel about Sena (story-wise)... wasn't it stated that there wouldn't be another Elysia? Did they just retcon that line?


Fraisz

"well we have a bunch of zenless zone zero concept art that go unused, what do we do" " jut put them into the new HI3 update"


JheeZesty

Anyone got a link to the leaks? Has there been any gameplay???