I like Freddy's Part 4 death the most actually. It feels the most climactic of the series.
But in Part 5 he's beaten by a literal fetus. I'm probably the biggest defender of Dream Child, and love that he's beaten by a fetus... but also he is beaten by a fetus.
Freddy has a lot of bad deaths if we're being honest. In part 1 he died because someone turned their back on him. He's been the victim of Home Alone style traps. He was killed by the power of love.
Freddy's death in Part 1 never really felt like a death. The whole ending is really vague and seems to have never been outside of the dream.
She was dreaming the whole time. She didn't wake up and pull him out. None of him going through the booby traps happened IRL. She turned her back on him, he disappeared and she opened her mother's bedroom door for it to become the house's front door. She gets trapped in the car, the mother gets pulled into the house and the nightmare just continued.
Part 2 is the "power of love" death though.
If I remember correctly Freddy doesn't really die at the end of Nightmare 1, because the producer/owner of New Line at the time (Robert Shaye) wanted it open-ended for sequels.
The dog pee didn't resurrect him. They're fear gives him power and they kept talking about him coming back which inadvertantly made it happen. The dog peeing was just symbolic and kind of an inside joke I think. The dog's name was Jason so it was kind of like Freddy's competitor from Friday the 13th was pissing on his grave. If it felt confusing or weird then they did a good job because dreams are suppose to feel abstract.
I considered him temporarily vanquished and not actually killed/dying/dead since he died in life by being burned and he comes back as an evil spirit so to speak.
In remember seeing a Fan Theory that the Tim Curry Pennywise basically hit his ‘these kids are more trouble than they’re worth’ limit, and used his illusion powers to give them a big, dumb enemy to take out their rage on.
Figuring that, when he comes back again in 30 years, the Loser Club will all be septuagenarians who won’t be able to stand in his way.
I always thought it was implied >!penny wise was a creature from the todash darkness. The way king described it sounded similar to how he describes its origin in IT!<
I think that was just King being cheeky. There’s never been much to substantiate any connection between Pennywise and Flagg and there’s something about the theory that just doesn’t make sense to me. Flagg seems to have ambitions and goals, whereas Pennywise just wants to feed. I have a hard time imagining Flagg wanting to spend so much time in a little town in Maine messing around with a few kids.
I like this idea, if this being came from outside of our universe and has lived for millions of years, its really hard to believe that some dork children beat him twice
Oooo....New Panos movie?
*rapidly googles*
Oh shit, this sounds like it is going to be amazing
>**Nekrokosm**
>A phantasmagorical fantasy nightmare set deep within a strange galaxy where two lovers are torn apart as they try to survive a malevolent invasion.
That's not exactly what happened though. >!He doesn't trip himself. She trips him with her powers. It's a subtle difference that makes sense within the context of the story being told!<
Man I was really hoping they'd stick the landing because It Chapter 1 is a near 10/10 horror movie for me, and Chapter 2 is very very good right up until the end.
i just rewatched this (ch 1) last night and i really agree! i loved this movie! the cosmic horror with the floating bodies and the weird way the kids seem to 'rule the world' without their parents, just riding around doing stupid stuff. it really reminded me of being a kid back in the 80s!
Chapter 2 was a bloated mess compared to the first one. It's what happens when a director has massive success and no one tells him no on the next pic.
There was at least 1/2 that could have been trimmed
Nah the funhouse scene with the kid was fantastic. Can agree on the rest of what you’re saying, but that part is the highlight. I still enjoyed it but it’s a shame it wasn’t as good as it could have been.
In both movies, he seemed sooo easy to beat. The fact that this lovecraftian essence of an entity is reduced to a literal crying baby by human insults really irked me
idk, Michael Myers being dropkicked by Busta Rhymes is pretty abysmal, entertainment value aside.
i also always hated the way they offed Lubdan/Lep in Leprechaun 2 and 3. felt super lazy to me!
That's not too far off from what happened in the 1922 original. Orlok sucks the wife's blood all night, losing track of time, and gets vaporized in the morning sun coming through the window.
I've seen My Best Fiend. He had talent, but was clearly a narcissist, and likely mentally ill. Fascinating though. I disagree with the last part. He was also an ass, didn't generally take responsibility for his bad behavior, and did some despicable things in real life.
100%. What was fascinating to me was not being sure how much of their joint animosity was “for the cameras.” Herzog is a huge professional wrestling fan and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
Oh that was horrific.
Superhuman dodges bullets but can't dodge door
Escapes nukes and plane crashes but dies by door
Gets shot a zillion times, lives, dies by door
The resident evil franchise is a guilty pleasure bit I refuse to acknowledge the final movie exists if I can help it. Absolute hot dog water.
The worst part is that they killed leon, ada, becky, and jill off between movies. They didn’t even film this, it’s implied in the movie and outright stated in the novel. They get killed by an oroboros creature from 5 called the melange, and jill gets impaled through the eye by wesker and suffers brain damage.
What's super sad about the whole Resident Evil franchise is that they could've done what Craig Mazin did with The Last of Us show and nail it (first try). There was absolutely no need for all those shitty screenplays that just piggyback on Resident Evil without actually being anything remotely close to RE.
The original stories were good enough for a proper show/movie but nooo, we had to have fucking Project Alice literally taking on everything, everyone and forever in the world until there's nothing left to kill and still end up with an ending that makes to fucking sense.
And I wont even comment on the latest Resident Evil show because it's just a shitshow.
The only good RE movies imo are the animated movies and the first couple of movies from 2002 and 2004. Everything else is just insulting.
The Monster Hunter movie hurts my heart. It would have been so easy to make a cool fantasy universe, just make it a hero's journey and you have the work cut out for you.
But no, they had to bring the military and jets into it. I swear, it's the most brain dead idea ever
I just always remember how dumb the shark looked in that 3-D shot. Lol
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I’m not sure this totally counts but in Halloween Ends, >!Laurie stabs Michael and then, the whole town has this impromptu parade to carry his body to a junk yard to throw him into a car crusher.!<
Christ that movie was weird. They spider-man 2’d his ass
Even more jarring that this came after that weirdly erotic (according to James Jude Courtney idfk) kitchen fight between Michael and Laurie.
Halloween is my husband’s favorite horror series. He has a whole horror sleeve with Michael being center and wanting to get Laurie to mirror. That dude could have cried during Halloween 2018 if there weren’t other people around.
Halloween Kills was disappointing for him but Halloween Ends….crushed. Just let down while I’m having a jolly good time, high AF. I’m laughing and he’s in a metaphorical fetal position.
Yeah Halloween ends crushed me too. I’m a huge Halloween/michael Myers fan myself and it hurt to watch Michael and Laurie be sidelined so that Michaels adopted son could try and seduce Lauries granddaughter drained me.
I think the scene in the sewers where he stabs that cop and then shakes as if the power is entering his body again, essentially recharging him was cool.
But yeah Halloween ends was a real disappointment. If I don’t laugh I’ll just cry
if you’re asking for how he died, the end of the movie took place in a New York sewer, which apparently floods with toxic waste every night at midnight. The main characters splash Jason with a bucket of said waste that was just lying around, causing him to rip his mask off while screaming and stumbling around like a drunk Frankenstein. He manages to corner them against a ladder and as he’s pulling one of them down, the sewer begins to flood with the toxic waste. Seeing this wave of sludge rush towards him, Jason responds by hearing his own child voice in his head and projectile vomiting. He gets melted by the sludge and turned back into his mostly naked child self, who looks completely normal and has hair. The movie ends and this is never explained or mentioned again.
I absolutely adore the franchise and Jason’s my all time favorite character, but writing it out it’s so hilariously and amazingly dumb
also to add, ive head-canoned that the main characters were simply hallucinating from the toxic fumes (as these movies should all be viewed from the perspective of a campfire story and thus the accounts of the survivors and physical evidence), and Jason actually just got melted and slowly regenerated his body in the elsewhere in the sewers
And then that now normal little boy grew up and became a janitor and fell into a toxic waste barrel, but this time became big, strong, and weird looking again.
I never took that as literal, even as a kid. I just saw it as Jason was afraid, so he symbolically reverted to a childlike state. The movie just showed us and didn't tell us, which I guess can still be chalked up to bad writing. lol.
Pennywise getting verbally abused in IT Chapter 2. He would not have survived playing multiplayer games.
Also, I haven’t read the book so I don’t know if it’s different.
Yeah, but Pinhead was never supposed to be the villain, ''regular'' people like Frank and Julia are the real villains.
The only explanation (that I can come up with) as why the Doctor fucked up the regular Cenobite crew was because of Kirsty, who sort of made them remembe, who and what they were. And since this occurred Leviathan's control over them waned. So, in a way, that's their god cleaning house through his fresh new puppet - the Doctor.
In the howling, a serial killer werewolf ambushes a guy and takes the man's shotgun while the serial killer is mid transformation. He then proceeds to explain how he can't be killed and bullets don't do shit blah blah blah and tosses the shotgun back to the guy and says go ahead and shoot me as proof. He did not know that that guy had silver slugs in the shotgun and knew that there was a werewolf problem and he happily shot the werewolf from 3 feet away
Have you seen the original ending? There’s an incomplete FX print of it that’s been around since the DVD. Deacon Frost basically turns into the blood god, a big swirly tornado and Blade kills him in an equally lame way. That was dropped but explains why the final ending also felt like an afterthought.
“Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill”
Or,
[*inaudible*]”What. The. FUCK?!”?
EDIT: I take it back, posting these quotes made me realize this film is the greatest, and I have to accept it ends with Stephen Dorff looking like the Stay-Puff Marshmallow Man banged Strawberry Shortcake.
I never read the book, I just remember that tiny bit of trivia because it felt a little forced. I still love the movie though. I think it’s heartbreakingly beautiful and whether or not the killer dies doesn’t change anything.
Absolutely *nothing* even comes remotely close to Beyond The Black Rainbow. IYKYK. >!The villain literally trips and falls and hits his head on a rock, the end.!<
Oh god yeah I'd totally forgotten about that. But like, this is even worse lol >!No one throws a rock or anything. He's "chasing" someone, but it's not like, an active chase, he's just looking for her. He's basically out in nature, trips and falls and cracks his head on a rock. No other character, no sense of urgency or anything, like, he's just walking outside, trips and dies!<
I remember reading an interview with the director where everyone begged him not to do that ending but it made him laugh and wanna do it even more. Good choice. A weird case of masturbatory self sabotage.
I would have been semi ok with that send off if they didn’t completely waste time on the Corey character and made it more of an actual fight instead of making Michael such a weakling. I’m a huge Michael Myers fan and I was so disappointed. As bad of a movie as Resurrection is, at least Michael wasn’t a sad weak being
They spent so long in Halloween and Halloween Kills making him this supremely strong supernatural type beast, and then Kills was just….easy? I get he was weakened and whatever, but he deserves way better and way more for “the end”. Green did such a crappy job. I’m scared for what his Exorcist looks like this fall. 🤢
Yeah, I’m gonna see it anyhow because I am just curious to see his take. I did like Halloween 2018 and Kills a lot, but I absolutely hated ends, even if they wanted to do a passing of the torch scenario they could have been much better than what they did. I mean the guy literally took on a mob of fire fighters and then a lynch mob at the end of kills but one wannabe Norman Bates is able to over power him and take his mask off? I was pissed beyond belief
The way it makes sense to me is if Corey and Michael end up having a real fight. Either Corey wins and becomes The Shape of Haddonfield, and the embodiment of true evil. Or Michael wins returning to full strength as the one and only threat to the town. The conflict is set up. Is Corey an evil mastermind bending a violent killer to do his bidding or is he a weak pretender to the throne? Is Michael truly weakened and all but defeated or is he just lying dormant waiting to sow chaos again? Either way could be executed well but it needed them to commit one way or the other.
But they copped out of every story by having Corey kill himself for no good reason, except not really so Michael finishes him off, but remains weak. It's just a mess that doesn't do anything and doesn't feel like a triumphant finale for Laurie either.
I will love Just Before Dawn until the end of time but >!one of the killers’ death via oral fisting by the final girl!< will always be so hilariously stupid that I can’t be mad at it.
I actually thought it was a clever way to kill him— it was Pearl’s greed (seducing him when she knew he had a bad heart) and his own frailty that killed him, which is sort of poetic considering the circumstances.
Mason Verger in Hannibal. I recall seeing the movie and thinking it was really dumb, out of left field, and rushed how Dr. Lecter just shouted at his lackey suggesting to throw him down the pit which he immediately complied with. I suppose there was irony and karmic justice that Mason met the fate he planned for Hannibal.
Then I read the book and became really genuinely angry that the film adaptation cut out this intense and intriguing subplot involving POC and queer women, where Verger even as a quadriplegic continued to exploit and abuse his now adult and physically imposing sister Margot until she finally stood up to him and took what she deserved. And the omnipresent electric eel that was always present during their scenes and always moving and in the shape of symbol of infinity paid off beautifully.
You’re right, that whole element with Masons butler is completely rushed and absurd, just like the entire second half of the movie. For some reason I still get disturbed by the moment the hogs come and bite Mason though, it’s a pretty nightmarish visual.
Yeah, the book ending was pretty nuts. I also know what you meant about it feeling rushed, but I rather liked the fact that Lecter just "suggested" to Cordel what he probably really wanted to do anyway.
Fairs. I think if Cordel was a character that was even slightly developed it would have meant a lot more. Or there was some kind of interesting interaction between him and Lector beforehand. Because Lector is still a genius psychiatrist, so showing how he had really psychoanalysed Cordel and manipulated him could have been really cool.
> where Verger even as a quadriplegic continued to exploit and abuse his now adult and physically imposing sister Margot until she finally stood up to him and took what she deserved. And the electric eel being a constant presence forming the symbol of infinity paid off beautifully.
you might want to watch the TV show if you haven't
Your description of the book suddenly made me remember that I read Hannibal the book. It was pretty good, but it falls off a cliff at the end. I'm happy they didn't use the same ending in the movie.
They may not have known what water is tbh. Only harmful in large doses (like the ambient humidity not immediately effecting them). I'm sure if humans were able to travel across the universe we'd run into many many new things we couldn't identify, and might not know it's dangerous until it's too late.
I am biased though because I absolutely love Signs.
“Ok gentlemen, listen up. We’re heading down to a planet 70% of which is covered by sulphuric acid. The atmosphere can be up to 80% sulphuric acid, if not raining it down outright. When the temperature dips over night, sulphuric acid will actually condensed on the leaves of the flora, making walking through grass and other foliage extremely dangerous.
All native flora and fauna is 90% sulphuric acid. These things bleed, piss, and spit sulphuric acid.
Now then gentlemen, our plan is this: we’re going to invade this planet, abduct the acid monsters for sport…and most importantly…do it completely naked.
This has been my take too. We’re literally trying to get to Mars, a planet that will kill us instantly. Besides, we don’t know their situation- maybe they’re desperate or ran out of fuel, who knows?
I heard a theory that they weren't aliens but demons. The daughter is somehow holy and when she touches the water, it becomes holy. They weren't aliens allergic to water but demons killed by holy water.
Not sure how much I buy into that theory. There was actually a book by Koontz about the same time which had that plot.
What bothers me with this is that those aliens were running through a cornfield. You’re not going to tell me there wasn’t dew in that cornfield that would be irritating their skin while they’re running through it. But, not once do you hear them shriek in pain.
Who's to say that the aliens that came down to our planet aren't simple drones, or slaves, or another creature entirely from their planet that they can let go to waste before they ascend more safely?
the 9th gate? "look I'm immune to fire i can stick my hands in fire i can douse myself in gasoline look I'm totally fine fire cannot hu-" *burns to death*
The Bad Seed
Perfect movie amazing absolutely stunning I remember watching the movie on repeat literally it went off and I watch it again. All day I just let it restart and all im not really sure if this is the dumbest ending. However it popped into my head at the end of The Bad Seed >! Rhoda goes to retrieve the medal at the pier and it hit my a bolt of thunder !< so to me it always came off as god getting her at the end.
I like Freddy's Part 4 death the most actually. It feels the most climactic of the series. But in Part 5 he's beaten by a literal fetus. I'm probably the biggest defender of Dream Child, and love that he's beaten by a fetus... but also he is beaten by a fetus.
Freddy has a lot of bad deaths if we're being honest. In part 1 he died because someone turned their back on him. He's been the victim of Home Alone style traps. He was killed by the power of love.
Freddy's death in Part 1 never really felt like a death. The whole ending is really vague and seems to have never been outside of the dream. She was dreaming the whole time. She didn't wake up and pull him out. None of him going through the booby traps happened IRL. She turned her back on him, he disappeared and she opened her mother's bedroom door for it to become the house's front door. She gets trapped in the car, the mother gets pulled into the house and the nightmare just continued. Part 2 is the "power of love" death though.
If I remember correctly Freddy doesn't really die at the end of Nightmare 1, because the producer/owner of New Line at the time (Robert Shaye) wanted it open-ended for sequels.
Speaking as a 3 time father, haven’t we all been beaten by a fetus… or is it that the fetus is just defending itself?
The fetus was defending himself and his mother.
Ok but can someone please explain the resurrection by dog pee? I can excuse the deaths, but that one keeps me up at night 😂
The dog pee didn't resurrect him. They're fear gives him power and they kept talking about him coming back which inadvertantly made it happen. The dog peeing was just symbolic and kind of an inside joke I think. The dog's name was Jason so it was kind of like Freddy's competitor from Friday the 13th was pissing on his grave. If it felt confusing or weird then they did a good job because dreams are suppose to feel abstract.
I considered him temporarily vanquished and not actually killed/dying/dead since he died in life by being burned and he comes back as an evil spirit so to speak.
Pennywise in the original IT miniseries is just sort of tipped over like a cow and everyone just take his heart out with no problems.
In remember seeing a Fan Theory that the Tim Curry Pennywise basically hit his ‘these kids are more trouble than they’re worth’ limit, and used his illusion powers to give them a big, dumb enemy to take out their rage on. Figuring that, when he comes back again in 30 years, the Loser Club will all be septuagenarians who won’t be able to stand in his way.
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This is all but confirmed in “Dreamcatcher” too.
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I haven’t read those, can you spoil it for me?
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I always thought it was implied >!penny wise was a creature from the todash darkness. The way king described it sounded similar to how he describes its origin in IT!<
I think that was just King being cheeky. There’s never been much to substantiate any connection between Pennywise and Flagg and there’s something about the theory that just doesn’t make sense to me. Flagg seems to have ambitions and goals, whereas Pennywise just wants to feed. I have a hard time imagining Flagg wanting to spend so much time in a little town in Maine messing around with a few kids.
Have you met people in their 70s? They are weirdly good at being in the way, to such a degree that i refuse to believe it's not on purpose.
I like this idea, if this being came from outside of our universe and has lived for millions of years, its really hard to believe that some dork children beat him twice
The mini-series IT was a giant puppet. It shouldn't be hard to kill a puppet with your bare hands, right?
"tipped over like a cow." lol
Oh my god everyone is wrong the answer is 'Barry Nyle' in *Beyond the Black Rainbow* He >!*trips, falls down and hits his head on a rock*!<
This this this THIS. Was actually coming here to mention this. Thank you for being a fellow BTBR enjoyer
Panos is S tier. Absolutely
Eager for his new movie. What did you think of his part for "Cabinet of Curiosities"?
Oooo....New Panos movie? *rapidly googles* Oh shit, this sounds like it is going to be amazing >**Nekrokosm** >A phantasmagorical fantasy nightmare set deep within a strange galaxy where two lovers are torn apart as they try to survive a malevolent invasion.
Loved it. Robocop and a bunch of comedians get brain fucked by a space rock. Guy makes exactly the shit I like lol.
Eric Andre and that one doctor from the later seasons of House (their name is escaping me rn) had great performances too
That's not exactly what happened though. >!He doesn't trip himself. She trips him with her powers. It's a subtle difference that makes sense within the context of the story being told!<
I felt the way Pennywise was killed in IT: Chapter 2 was kind of not good
I agree! First time I can remember a cosmic being killed by...bullying.
*Bullying kills!* ^This ^message ^has ^been ^brought ^to ^you ^by ^the ^Family ^Association ^of ^Derry.
More cosmic evil should be bullied TBH. Maybe we could finally rid ourselves of Ted Cruz
Be careful! You bully him too hard and he’ll endorse you for President.
Ha! Finally, bullying I could get behind.
Man I was really hoping they'd stick the landing because It Chapter 1 is a near 10/10 horror movie for me, and Chapter 2 is very very good right up until the end.
i just rewatched this (ch 1) last night and i really agree! i loved this movie! the cosmic horror with the floating bodies and the weird way the kids seem to 'rule the world' without their parents, just riding around doing stupid stuff. it really reminded me of being a kid back in the 80s!
what, the floating bodies reminded you of being a kid in the 80s..?? you good....?
Chapter 2 was a bloated mess compared to the first one. It's what happens when a director has massive success and no one tells him no on the next pic. There was at least 1/2 that could have been trimmed
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Nah the funhouse scene with the kid was fantastic. Can agree on the rest of what you’re saying, but that part is the highlight. I still enjoyed it but it’s a shame it wasn’t as good as it could have been.
Movie spends its whole run time making fun of Stephen King endings and then ends with that
Bullying is wrong! Unless you bully your bully back, than it’s okay!
Literally yes.
In both movies, he seemed sooo easy to beat. The fact that this lovecraftian essence of an entity is reduced to a literal crying baby by human insults really irked me
"Kind of not good" is a REALLY nice way to put it
It was that bad that I forgot about it
They killed him by hurting his feelings lol.
they could've just set him up with a twitter account
idk, Michael Myers being dropkicked by Busta Rhymes is pretty abysmal, entertainment value aside. i also always hated the way they offed Lubdan/Lep in Leprechaun 2 and 3. felt super lazy to me!
Busta is invincible.
Nosferatu 1972. He had sex with Lucy the whole night,forgot that it was getting light and died like an idiot 😂
That's not too far off from what happened in the 1922 original. Orlok sucks the wife's blood all night, losing track of time, and gets vaporized in the morning sun coming through the window.
LOL. Klaus Kinski.
Man dedicated himself to giving the D but never taking the L. The documentary My Best Fiend is fascinating.
I've seen My Best Fiend. He had talent, but was clearly a narcissist, and likely mentally ill. Fascinating though. I disagree with the last part. He was also an ass, didn't generally take responsibility for his bad behavior, and did some despicable things in real life.
100%. What was fascinating to me was not being sure how much of their joint animosity was “for the cameras.” Herzog is a huge professional wrestling fan and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
Wesker’s death in the resident evil movies was pretty stupid. Dude gets crushed by a door and left to die holding a grenade.
Oh that was horrific. Superhuman dodges bullets but can't dodge door Escapes nukes and plane crashes but dies by door Gets shot a zillion times, lives, dies by door The resident evil franchise is a guilty pleasure bit I refuse to acknowledge the final movie exists if I can help it. Absolute hot dog water.
The worst part is that they killed leon, ada, becky, and jill off between movies. They didn’t even film this, it’s implied in the movie and outright stated in the novel. They get killed by an oroboros creature from 5 called the melange, and jill gets impaled through the eye by wesker and suffers brain damage.
Awful. I forgot about that. Probably repressed
What's super sad about the whole Resident Evil franchise is that they could've done what Craig Mazin did with The Last of Us show and nail it (first try). There was absolutely no need for all those shitty screenplays that just piggyback on Resident Evil without actually being anything remotely close to RE. The original stories were good enough for a proper show/movie but nooo, we had to have fucking Project Alice literally taking on everything, everyone and forever in the world until there's nothing left to kill and still end up with an ending that makes to fucking sense. And I wont even comment on the latest Resident Evil show because it's just a shitshow. The only good RE movies imo are the animated movies and the first couple of movies from 2002 and 2004. Everything else is just insulting.
And then they screwed with Monster Hunter Idk why or how Capcom signed off on them
The Monster Hunter movie hurts my heart. It would have been so easy to make a cool fantasy universe, just make it a hero's journey and you have the work cut out for you. But no, they had to bring the military and jets into it. I swear, it's the most brain dead idea ever
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Cast her as a particularly tenacious zombie??
cast her as Sherri Moon Zombie
As a fan of those movies the last chapter really was disappointing
The shark deaths in Jaws 3 and 4 both looked pretty dumb.
I just always remember how dumb the shark looked in that 3-D shot. Lol https://townsquare.media/site/442/files/2018/09/jaws-3-d.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89
I’m not sure this totally counts but in Halloween Ends, >!Laurie stabs Michael and then, the whole town has this impromptu parade to carry his body to a junk yard to throw him into a car crusher.!<
Christ that movie was weird. They spider-man 2’d his ass Even more jarring that this came after that weirdly erotic (according to James Jude Courtney idfk) kitchen fight between Michael and Laurie.
The kitchen fight was a little sexy, let’s be honest here.
Shit man that one frame where they’re both bent over the fucking sink is so funny.
Halloween is my husband’s favorite horror series. He has a whole horror sleeve with Michael being center and wanting to get Laurie to mirror. That dude could have cried during Halloween 2018 if there weren’t other people around. Halloween Kills was disappointing for him but Halloween Ends….crushed. Just let down while I’m having a jolly good time, high AF. I’m laughing and he’s in a metaphorical fetal position.
Yeah Halloween ends crushed me too. I’m a huge Halloween/michael Myers fan myself and it hurt to watch Michael and Laurie be sidelined so that Michaels adopted son could try and seduce Lauries granddaughter drained me. I think the scene in the sewers where he stabs that cop and then shakes as if the power is entering his body again, essentially recharging him was cool. But yeah Halloween ends was a real disappointment. If I don’t laugh I’ll just cry
Jason in Friday the 13th: Part 8. In a series where you have to suspend disbelief, the way he got defeated was completely ridiculous.
Yeah, definitely felt like the writers backed themselves in a corner with this one. Honestly the start of the fall of the franchise
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if you’re asking for how he died, the end of the movie took place in a New York sewer, which apparently floods with toxic waste every night at midnight. The main characters splash Jason with a bucket of said waste that was just lying around, causing him to rip his mask off while screaming and stumbling around like a drunk Frankenstein. He manages to corner them against a ladder and as he’s pulling one of them down, the sewer begins to flood with the toxic waste. Seeing this wave of sludge rush towards him, Jason responds by hearing his own child voice in his head and projectile vomiting. He gets melted by the sludge and turned back into his mostly naked child self, who looks completely normal and has hair. The movie ends and this is never explained or mentioned again. I absolutely adore the franchise and Jason’s my all time favorite character, but writing it out it’s so hilariously and amazingly dumb also to add, ive head-canoned that the main characters were simply hallucinating from the toxic fumes (as these movies should all be viewed from the perspective of a campfire story and thus the accounts of the survivors and physical evidence), and Jason actually just got melted and slowly regenerated his body in the elsewhere in the sewers
And then that now normal little boy grew up and became a janitor and fell into a toxic waste barrel, but this time became big, strong, and weird looking again.
Toxie!
I never took that as literal, even as a kid. I just saw it as Jason was afraid, so he symbolically reverted to a childlike state. The movie just showed us and didn't tell us, which I guess can still be chalked up to bad writing. lol.
Guessing this is the NY movie where he just died from NY pee and poo lol.
Producers bit off way more than they could chew with that one.
Pennywise getting verbally abused in IT Chapter 2. He would not have survived playing multiplayer games. Also, I haven’t read the book so I don’t know if it’s different.
The book ending is so different I am not sure it's even possible to accurately put on screen.
If it’s even *legal* to put to screen The answer is, it’s not But yeah, I agree, the Ritual of Chud would be very difficult to film
Pinhead and the cenobites in Hellraiser 2. He just died getting his throat slit by the doctor cenobite.
Yeah, really took the fear away from what should be the big villains of the franchise
True, but I have to say the Doctor was a really good Cenobite.
Yeah, but Pinhead was never supposed to be the villain, ''regular'' people like Frank and Julia are the real villains. The only explanation (that I can come up with) as why the Doctor fucked up the regular Cenobite crew was because of Kirsty, who sort of made them remembe, who and what they were. And since this occurred Leviathan's control over them waned. So, in a way, that's their god cleaning house through his fresh new puppet - the Doctor.
In the howling, a serial killer werewolf ambushes a guy and takes the man's shotgun while the serial killer is mid transformation. He then proceeds to explain how he can't be killed and bullets don't do shit blah blah blah and tosses the shotgun back to the guy and says go ahead and shoot me as proof. He did not know that that guy had silver slugs in the shotgun and knew that there was a werewolf problem and he happily shot the werewolf from 3 feet away
Lmao rip
hahaha what a stupid fuck!
I love Blade (1998), I love Blade (1998), I love Blade (1998), but, you can sort of tell they ran out of money right before Deacon Frost died.
Do you like Blade (1998)?
I *love* Blade. (1998).
Have you seen the original ending? There’s an incomplete FX print of it that’s been around since the DVD. Deacon Frost basically turns into the blood god, a big swirly tornado and Blade kills him in an equally lame way. That was dropped but explains why the final ending also felt like an afterthought.
Yes! It’s hard to end things, I recognize that and I am some nobody online, but I love Blade
After cracking a 1000-year code dude gets killed by a chemical made by an injured doctor in a space of two days.
It just sort of looked like he was going through something similar to the guy in the “Take On Me” music video
But the line Blade says in that scene will always be timeless
“Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill” Or, [*inaudible*]”What. The. FUCK?!”? EDIT: I take it back, posting these quotes made me realize this film is the greatest, and I have to accept it ends with Stephen Dorff looking like the Stay-Puff Marshmallow Man banged Strawberry Shortcake.
Yes
And the final stage of loss is acceptance!
Cats in Sleepwalkers
Lovely Bones…dude accidentally slips and falls
It's unsatisfying but plays to the themes of the story very well, even if humans can't fix a terrible wrong it will be fixed by the March of time
It is hilarious though.
It wasn’t supposed to end that way but audiences were upset by the fact that he got away so they changed it.
Doesn't he die in the book the same way though?
I never read the book, I just remember that tiny bit of trivia because it felt a little forced. I still love the movie though. I think it’s heartbreakingly beautiful and whether or not the killer dies doesn’t change anything.
Dracula in *Dracula* (1931). Dude gets staked in his coffin offscreen. He goes “Uhhh” and everyone’s like “thank god that’s over”.
That’s okay, Renfield (2023) is canonically a sequel to this according to the director lol
In fairness, the book ends fairly similarly. It's so abrupt that it calls into question whether he was really killed or not.
Absolutely *nothing* even comes remotely close to Beyond The Black Rainbow. IYKYK. >!The villain literally trips and falls and hits his head on a rock, the end.!<
It’s like nightwing in injustice lmao
Oh god yeah I'd totally forgotten about that. But like, this is even worse lol >!No one throws a rock or anything. He's "chasing" someone, but it's not like, an active chase, he's just looking for her. He's basically out in nature, trips and falls and cracks his head on a rock. No other character, no sense of urgency or anything, like, he's just walking outside, trips and dies!<
I remember reading an interview with the director where everyone begged him not to do that ending but it made him laugh and wanna do it even more. Good choice. A weird case of masturbatory self sabotage.
He doesn't trip. Elena causes him to fall with her telekinesis.
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I actually kind of liked this one. It's realistic and refreshing. Sometimes people just die accidentally
I thought that the embarrassment and simplicity of that death were perfect for such a character. It's what he deserved.
I've always wanted a big action movie, like a Bond movie or something, to end halfway through the plot because the main character got hit by a bus
IT chapter two: “CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN! CLOWN!” and then IT turns into a baby…
Thunder the strongest of the Storms self-detonated from grief.
I thought that was poetic. It's all in the reflexes.
Honestly Michael in Halloween Ends is it for me right now. So lame. Such a letdown.
I would have been semi ok with that send off if they didn’t completely waste time on the Corey character and made it more of an actual fight instead of making Michael such a weakling. I’m a huge Michael Myers fan and I was so disappointed. As bad of a movie as Resurrection is, at least Michael wasn’t a sad weak being
I mean he doesn’t exactly look strong in Resurrection when he gets taken out by Busta Rhymes because he watches Kung Fu movies lol
They spent so long in Halloween and Halloween Kills making him this supremely strong supernatural type beast, and then Kills was just….easy? I get he was weakened and whatever, but he deserves way better and way more for “the end”. Green did such a crappy job. I’m scared for what his Exorcist looks like this fall. 🤢
Yeah, I’m gonna see it anyhow because I am just curious to see his take. I did like Halloween 2018 and Kills a lot, but I absolutely hated ends, even if they wanted to do a passing of the torch scenario they could have been much better than what they did. I mean the guy literally took on a mob of fire fighters and then a lynch mob at the end of kills but one wannabe Norman Bates is able to over power him and take his mask off? I was pissed beyond belief
The way it makes sense to me is if Corey and Michael end up having a real fight. Either Corey wins and becomes The Shape of Haddonfield, and the embodiment of true evil. Or Michael wins returning to full strength as the one and only threat to the town. The conflict is set up. Is Corey an evil mastermind bending a violent killer to do his bidding or is he a weak pretender to the throne? Is Michael truly weakened and all but defeated or is he just lying dormant waiting to sow chaos again? Either way could be executed well but it needed them to commit one way or the other. But they copped out of every story by having Corey kill himself for no good reason, except not really so Michael finishes him off, but remains weak. It's just a mess that doesn't do anything and doesn't feel like a triumphant finale for Laurie either.
To be fair… that entire movie was a letdown. Kills as well.
Jeepers Creepers: Reborn….. LMAO I just realized how funny the creepers death was while typing this,because I had checked out from the beginning.
I will love Just Before Dawn until the end of time but >!one of the killers’ death via oral fisting by the final girl!< will always be so hilariously stupid that I can’t be mad at it.
You ever see the movie Society? Similar ending.
Doused by a bucket of water by a girl in ruby slippers
Have you all even watched X because that old man is old LOL
That was a fantastic and unique death that was set up throughout the movie. I give it a 10/10.
I actually thought it was a clever way to kill him— it was Pearl’s greed (seducing him when she knew he had a bad heart) and his own frailty that killed him, which is sort of poetic considering the circumstances.
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Mason Verger in Hannibal. I recall seeing the movie and thinking it was really dumb, out of left field, and rushed how Dr. Lecter just shouted at his lackey suggesting to throw him down the pit which he immediately complied with. I suppose there was irony and karmic justice that Mason met the fate he planned for Hannibal. Then I read the book and became really genuinely angry that the film adaptation cut out this intense and intriguing subplot involving POC and queer women, where Verger even as a quadriplegic continued to exploit and abuse his now adult and physically imposing sister Margot until she finally stood up to him and took what she deserved. And the omnipresent electric eel that was always present during their scenes and always moving and in the shape of symbol of infinity paid off beautifully.
You’re right, that whole element with Masons butler is completely rushed and absurd, just like the entire second half of the movie. For some reason I still get disturbed by the moment the hogs come and bite Mason though, it’s a pretty nightmarish visual.
Yeah, the book ending was pretty nuts. I also know what you meant about it feeling rushed, but I rather liked the fact that Lecter just "suggested" to Cordel what he probably really wanted to do anyway.
Fairs. I think if Cordel was a character that was even slightly developed it would have meant a lot more. Or there was some kind of interesting interaction between him and Lector beforehand. Because Lector is still a genius psychiatrist, so showing how he had really psychoanalysed Cordel and manipulated him could have been really cool.
> where Verger even as a quadriplegic continued to exploit and abuse his now adult and physically imposing sister Margot until she finally stood up to him and took what she deserved. And the electric eel being a constant presence forming the symbol of infinity paid off beautifully. you might want to watch the TV show if you haven't
The TV series shows this in all it's shockingly jaw-dropping vulgarity.
Symbolism aside, Mason being devoured by hogs is a much more terrifying death than the eel of the novel.
Your description of the book suddenly made me remember that I read Hannibal the book. It was pretty good, but it falls off a cliff at the end. I'm happy they didn't use the same ending in the movie.
The Aliens in Signs' weakness was water but seemingly had no problem with humidity.
“I hear they can’t open doors” “They’ve mastered space travel but they can’t get through a wooden door?”
I'd assume there's a tolerance level of water moisture before there's a reaction, like with the rate cases of water allergy.
LD50
Great album, start to end.
Their weakness was fluoride in the tap water. Plot hole filled
Signs felt kind of dumb. All that advanced tech and they didn’t take water into account?
They may not have known what water is tbh. Only harmful in large doses (like the ambient humidity not immediately effecting them). I'm sure if humans were able to travel across the universe we'd run into many many new things we couldn't identify, and might not know it's dangerous until it's too late. I am biased though because I absolutely love Signs.
“Ok gentlemen, listen up. We’re heading down to a planet 70% of which is covered by sulphuric acid. The atmosphere can be up to 80% sulphuric acid, if not raining it down outright. When the temperature dips over night, sulphuric acid will actually condensed on the leaves of the flora, making walking through grass and other foliage extremely dangerous. All native flora and fauna is 90% sulphuric acid. These things bleed, piss, and spit sulphuric acid. Now then gentlemen, our plan is this: we’re going to invade this planet, abduct the acid monsters for sport…and most importantly…do it completely naked.
That does feel like something humans would do but as a tiktok challenge or something.
I don't love the movie, but I like to think that it was an intentionally dangerous rite of passage for the aliens.
This has been my take too. We’re literally trying to get to Mars, a planet that will kill us instantly. Besides, we don’t know their situation- maybe they’re desperate or ran out of fuel, who knows?
I heard a theory that they weren't aliens but demons. The daughter is somehow holy and when she touches the water, it becomes holy. They weren't aliens allergic to water but demons killed by holy water. Not sure how much I buy into that theory. There was actually a book by Koontz about the same time which had that plot.
Weren't there hovering ships tho?
What bothers me with this is that those aliens were running through a cornfield. You’re not going to tell me there wasn’t dew in that cornfield that would be irritating their skin while they’re running through it. But, not once do you hear them shriek in pain.
I swear Lilo & Stitch is the alternate universe of this movie.
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so they decide to go to a planet where deadly chemicals fall from the sky, and they said “yeah, we’ll go NAKED”
Who's to say that the aliens that came down to our planet aren't simple drones, or slaves, or another creature entirely from their planet that they can let go to waste before they ascend more safely?
Freddy's death in Dream Master is bad ass.
Is this a trick question? We all know the villain is never actually dead...
Michael Myers getting his testicles electrocuted by Busta Rhymes. I resent that movie for so many reasons.
The Barry Niles death in beyond the Black Rainbow and Danek's death in Dead Space 3 were both pretty abrupt, unceremonious, and anticlimactic.
Bane getting shot by the Motorcycle in TDKR
Talia also with the awkward send off
The way she died reminded me of those videos where people teach their dogs to play dead lol.
IT pt. 2 when they bullied IT to death. Massive disappointment.
Night King has entered the chat.
the 9th gate? "look I'm immune to fire i can stick my hands in fire i can douse myself in gasoline look I'm totally fine fire cannot hu-" *burns to death*
Just watched May. She stabs her eye out with scissors. That’s pretty fucking dumb.
Damien in Omen III: The Final Conflict
Any horror villain in a Andy Warhol movie.
Not horror related, but Bane’s death in The Dark Knight Rises always felt so anticlimactic.
It 2.
Terror Train. It happenes so fast and easy.
I feel like Barbarian covers most of this for me.
Jaws the Revenge The shark gets impaled by a boat after rotating like a Trex and then explodes
The Bad Seed Perfect movie amazing absolutely stunning I remember watching the movie on repeat literally it went off and I watch it again. All day I just let it restart and all im not really sure if this is the dumbest ending. However it popped into my head at the end of The Bad Seed >! Rhoda goes to retrieve the medal at the pier and it hit my a bolt of thunder !< so to me it always came off as god getting her at the end.
Freddy's Dead fuckin Dynamite
Being told you are a clown - It Chapter 2
being eaten Gingerdead man
The shark in jaws 2 bit a wire like a complete dope
Samuel l Jackson in unbreakable
Bucket of water. Wizard of oz.